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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- There are a lot of things to talk about when it comes to thermal throttling. Yes, it's a huge topic and do let me know if I miss out anything.
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Timestamps
00:00 Thermal throttling - it happens everywhere
00:51 Chapter #1 - What is thermal throttling?
03:14 Chapter #2 - What is thermal limit?
06:29 Chapter #3 - How to avoid thermal throttling?
08:33 Chapter #4 - Does adding a cooler help?
09:45 Chapter #5 - Chipset
13:04 Chapter #6 - Software
14:42 Chapter #7 - RAM speed is important too
15:24 Chapter #8 - Graphical settings
17:36 Chapter #9 - Can we not thermal throttle at all?
20:38 Conclusion
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Hey y'all - if there are any questions or parts of the video that you wish to have more explanation - do leave them in the comments section.
I do plan to make a follow-up video addressing some of the questions here (if there are any)
Running Genshin Impact at 1440p is just shooting middle fingers at your phone
Meanwhile someone running genshin at 4k:
Nah, at least 1080p would've been better.
Man, this is a very good and easy to understand introduction to termal issues on mobile devices.
I really appreciate it.
And I have a personal story to share: I had the RoG 3, which still runs Genshin Impact quiet well nowadays but it gets uncomfortably hot to touch. Now, I switched to a RoG 8, after almost 4 years, and I'm very impressed. It is an efficient phone for daily tasks, the "slow" charge speed is 30w and I can't make it get hotter than 42C with that active cooling system in the aggressive mode.
god damn it you had to premiere this video when I’m traveling to asia
Great Detailed indeed. Thanks💙💙
How informative!
Hope you hit 1M soon❤
Good video bro.. Maknanya xde masalah la kan kalau phone tu panas, sebab saya pengguna gt20pro (dimensitiy8200) hp ni mmg limit throttling tinggi...kalau genshin highest mmg panas gile.. Sanggup atau x je main panas2😂atau akan efek penggunaan masa panjang?
Why do custom kernel increase performance when barelly any more power is used?
Well this might be a good place if s24 or s24+ is worth buying (the exynos version), in hot and humid climate like the country I live in, because I have heard about it's over heating and I don't feel pretty safe carrying a mini oven in my pocket. Like comparing it's performance and heat compared to the S24Ultra or even previous S23 line up
18:09 completely off-topic but I want to visit Malaysia and other South East Asian countries (and East Asia ofc) one time in my life haha. So bored of the UK.
Good detailed video anyway, really appreciate it! 👍
So informative, learned a lot. I have a three questions.
1) Is overclocking really possible in mobile phones?
2) My exynos 1280 really heats up the front camera area of the screen when I try to play a graphical game like BGMI/CODM, how does your statement of Lower chips not heating uphold to this?
3) What about device heat up during charging?
Oh I like structured questions
1. Yes, but rooted devices only. Phones are very locked down by default.
2. Exynos 1280 is considered mid-to-high range and again, not all low-end/mid-range chips have performance that is low enough that it doesn't thermal throttle.
3. I completely missed out on that. Yes, that affects performance as well. It's practically the reverse effects of battery bypass.
finally ... thx.,.
It's so far but I will waiting
In the topic of the HTC one M8 being a solid block of aluminum, why are phones not built like this anymore, I get the part where all manufacturers use NFC and wireless charging coils now days but is it not cost effective to do something like the first Google pixel where they had a small glass piece at the top but the device was aluminum all around?
Exelent video! and sorry for the wall of text 😅
Excellent question - it's sort of creating a Faraday's cage - in this case, a Faraday's barrier???
I'm not familiar with Google Pixel since it's not available in my country. I think they're not doing that is mostly due to cost and manufacturing complications.
Qualcomm already has upscaling and frame generation but nobody's using it yet, and on the apple side only a handful of games are using their upscaling tech. Games like wuthering waves with fsr seem to only use it for anti-aliasing, sort of like 'dlaa', though i might be wrong
Anti-aliasing isn't upscaling.
@@NasiLemakTech the iqoo neo 9 pro and iqoo 12 have game super resolution mode which upscales a little
Spent bit of money to get a decent cooler, piva bl7, my s23 ultra never throttle in genshin now, it's always 30-35c even in Fontaine water region, fps wise I don't notice that much of a difference but battery life wise it last longer
Update: Fontaine underwater makes it reach 38c , same with dense jungle area in summer
It never gets close to 45c like it used to when I first started playing without any cooler.
Gotta connect the cooler to the charger too right?
@NasiLemakTech yep, I do play with a 20wpd power bank when I'm on the go, if it has its own battery it'll run out pretty fast and I bet the weight would be more noticeable.
Can u tell me wat is the render resolution of codm i heard from yesterdays new update the graphics r enhanced plez check it in your Samsung device
For Samsung - if you use the settings I used in the gaming tests, then you get the native resolution of 3120x1440 on S24 Ultra and S24+, 1080p on S24.
That Super Resolution setting will increase your render resolution
Is blackshark the best cooler rn? Its really hot where im from and my current cooler cant fight back the heat its just delaying it
I don't know if it's the best, but it's the one I have and it's effective.
What phone are you using btw
After watching many ways to cool a device, i think i finally found two ways,
1st finding a mini table fan with high rpm, because i have cool climate so the mini fan pushes cool air faster
2nd is Phone Cooler, but with little addition from our side, Currently the cooler only cools center area and waits for heat to travel to the center, what im gonna do is find a 0.3~0.5mm Cooper plate and cut it in the shape of the phone, so instead the cooler waiting for heat, the cooling travels to heating area, i assume.
And obviously tweaking graphics and limiting fps to 40~55fps
But my unluck, i have bad Internet 😤
rip me, i might have to play genshin lowest settings 30 fps, than 45 or 60?
(and what samsung phones have battery bypass?)
I think most phones since the S22 has it
One thing you skipped is the display.
It's not that big of a deal in android phones because most have atleast some form of cooling but iphones are the worst when it comes to throttling the display. Dropping the brightness should help with thermal management but how much do you think affects the power management and throttling?
I am aware of this but I personally use my phone at ~80 nits most of the time, so I didn't experience anything related to brightness level changes due to thermal throttling.
Worth exploring in the future though
also another (rooted) solution is undervolt CPU + overclock GPU
i tried that with SD 870 and it really helped me
better temperature , better battery life and more stable FPS
NL I believe we are all waiting for your Rog phone 9 pro
Can you compare S23+ with S24+ Exynos 2400?Battery test and temperature!
I don't have access to the S23+ sadly
@@NasiLemakTechDo you can't get one?
@@NasiLemakTech OK then. Do you can compare S23 Ultra with S24+ Exynos 2400.Battery test and temperature?
still cannot put up with gaming on my phone i rather just game on my pc tbh and i got the s24 ultra btw
What if i put ice on the back of the phone and use something like Samsung dex to play with controller on a bigger display while the phone is chilling with the ice ?😂
Honestly, I'm just worried about condensation inside the phone. Other than that, it's a perfectly valid way to play your games.
@NasiLemakTech oh you think metals gonna shrink and expand in there and destroy the phone? Interesting but that could be resolved with warranty since it won't look like physical damage if I don't tell them i used ice
That's not my main concern. It's water droplets forming inside the phone. It's not vacuum sealed inside, so water droplets are going to form if it's too cold inside.
Probably not going to happen if you don't turn off the phone while it's in ice
@NasiLemakTech oh damn I haven't thought about this , thanks I'll try with secondary device and tell u if I remember to
it's not really hidden when it's literally burning my hands
The temperature you're showing in your videos is always battery temperature. Most Li-ion batteries have an upper temperature limit of 50°C, above which the service life is drastically reduced.
Nope. That's the IHS of the chip's temperature. Battery temperature is different.
@@NasiLemakTech You can see the actual SoC temperature with DevCheck if your phone is rooted or you got a snapdragon device. Usually the SoC temperature from powerful chipsets like Snapdragon 8 series is between 80-90°C when playing demanding games like Genshin. Give DevCheck a shot if you like. I use it to monitor CPU & GPU temperature on a rooted S21 Ultra with Exynos
@@NasiLemakTech the one from GPUWatch is the battery temperature though. This video was great, but you confused the SoC temperature of the Rog Phone with the battery temperature and compared it to the battery temperature of the S24U. Very common mistake and many apps don't even report the right SoC temperature, they just use an estimate. The SoC temperature is unimportant anyway, as silicon is fine up to 90°C and as it is not in direct contact with the phones body anyway
The battery temperature, from what I am aware of, is correctly reported on any Android device and that is the temperature that is much more likely to be similar to the surface temperature of the phones body. So the one everyone should focus on when trying to assess thermal limits, throttling, whatever
This is why I cannot like my poco x4 gt and f5 due to having plastic backs (gave them away to relatives)
Still keeping my mi 9T pro and poco f3🤩🤩 (am fine with low genshin graphics with 60 fps)
Plastic backs aren't bad. Sometimes I do prefer plastic back more than a glass back
@@NasiLemakTech but the heat dissipation is reduced to the display panel :(
If not gaming, then yeah, a good one 'coz lighter
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Bro😭I don't get it why premiere for so later.. 1 say is enough
Yeah... a bit too early - but hey, time to set a calendar entry for this I guess 😂
How is 2400 doing mine has been blazing be cod or my daily note apps for neet pg bgmi car x street the photos and footage also improved as samsung optimized the isp plus amd is and samung are promising driver updates to 940 by end of this year most likely we are going to see what 2400 is realy can do and i am exited to see 8gen4 vs 2500 aka the dream chip on 3nm node
Rooted android here, what's thermal throttling?? 😂
I already disable it
So... your phone goes up to like 80°C?
@@NasiLemakTech never lool, my phone is just low end dimensity 700 powered, there is no point' throttling a chip already slow 🤣,
Sheeesh you scared me there. I thought you removed the thermal limit on the Snapdragon 888
My s24ultra is performing better than ever doesn't thermal throttle because it all depends on ambient temperature and the only game that really brings 43c to 44c tops is uncaped and high settings in warzone mobile because it isn't optimized for the million time if the games are not optimized then it's likely to thermal throttle 😊 my s24ultra is a beast honestly stability 71% understand me.
snapdragon?
@debabratabrahma yes sir 8 gen 3 snapdragon
@@officialdon_julio yup. Hunch was right. If it was exynos, wouldn't have been that cool.
Lol my s24 plus never goes beyond 43 with outside temp at 40 with humudity thats playing in normal room with lol bgmi at 90 fps@@debabratabrahma
Xiaomi has the worst VaporChamber and its Thermal management software
I HATE my S24U for throttling
My ex S23U was The Best Samsung I had
Blame Snapdragon. I love my S23 Ultra too, honestly. Much stabler frame rates for gaming.
I only have s24 plus exynos but still holds up yesterday i was out whole got 18 hrs with 4.5 hrs while having 120 fps gaming sessions on cod on 5g all day no wifi still had like 7 to 8 % juce left with temps near 40 and 80 % percent humid weather still made it back home @@NasiLemakTech
i was waiting for 24U before it’s released for about 3 months
but when i saw how it performed
i just bought iPhone 15 PM
and i don’t regret that at all
As far has cooling goes i think the Samsung galaxy s24 Ultra is good it never heats up and does not lag noticeably on Genshin impact. I simply downloaded game plugin and followed a TH-camrs instruction for settings.
Phone manufacturers be like: Alright boys, it's been awhile since phone released and reviewed, time to send out latest patch to nerf the performance of the phone to sustain the incoming summer's heat!
Oh this is an interesting one.