I find it remarkable how many similarities there are between stories about Atlantis and planet Krypton. It makes me wonder whether Plato got the ideas for his fable from discussions with Superman.
@happi Achilles was the strongest warrior that was probably based on a real person, only exaggerated for story - the idea of the Ubermensch then adapted into a comicbook form for the masses. In the story, he was an immortal and invincible being from the moment he drank a liquid, except for his ankles. Superman was an invincible being for years until the writers made him more relatable, by giving him the weakness of Kryptonite.
If our narrative is accurate its only older by 1 or 2 thousand Years. Not that big of a gap( joke) that being said I'd also love to know more and there is also mention of Atlantis in th old Frisain book the Ore Linda. However many count this to be a copy or made up. To me it's just interesting that another culture mentions Atlantis, how many others do ? Are they influenced by Plato ? Have you read the emerald tablet of Thoth? He mentions that they fled Atlantis and found Egypt and other places to settle.
I don't understand why more people don't mention Crete as a possible Atlantis. The ancient peoples were highly intelligent beyond their time, in an island between Europe and Africa. A highly developed civilisation that was destroyed by natural disasters and abandoned. In fact when people returned to inhabit it, they believed it was giants who built the ancient ruins adding to the mystery of the ancient lost civilization. Seems obvious to me
Several mistaken facts. Firstly, Crete wasn't abandoned by its inhabitants after the Thera eruption. The Mycenaeans (greek forebears) conquered Crete shortly afterward but there was plenty of continuity even seen in modern genetic studies. For example adopting their script (known as Linear A) to write their proto-Greek language (Linear B), and much more. Secondly, the builders of the walls later deemed to have been built by giants were the Mycenaeans, for example the walls of Mycenaea itself. And again, the Mycenaeans were to ancestors of the later greeks, but who of course mixed with the earlier inhabitants. Also, the Bronze Age Collapse and fall of the Mycenaean civilization and subsequent dark age in greece was in about 1200 BCE. The Thera eruption was around 1600 BCE and Mycenaean golden age from 1400 BCE onwards. It is fascinating though and interesting theories around the island of Thera, seen in the following video. I hope my comment don't come off as hostile, just wanted to clear up any confusion and prevent future readers get the wrong idea.
Ya know this video is just some bits of history squeezed through the Bible. YELCH! This dude is boxed in and lookin for company Pro tip bro: The Eye of the Sahara was Atlantis. You can still see the rings and flood path to the Atlantic etc..
Love the video! You also have a soothing, pleasant voice and crystal clear diction - something rare these days - which makes it perfect for EFL students. I'm very much into the legendary, submerged lands of Atlantis and Lemuria and all esoteric teachings about lost civilizations. I'll look for part one and share both on the alternative media I've joined ever since I left Facebook and also on my two edublogs! Thank you so much for making our days filled with a taste of the mythical worlds.
The simplest debunking of Atlantis comes from thinking how such an advanced civilization left no clear mark on the rest of the world and never expanded from their Island continent and allowed their whole Legacy to die with them. Empires and kingdoms far less advanced than them already expanded more around the globe and left a larger mark
I'm always amazed I can read about an entirely new "world power" that held sway over 5 percent or more of the whole Earth for hundreds of years. With it's own language and culture that is gone. Completely. And I can read about a new one pretty much every day.
@@BlackMasterRoshi there is a certain difference between all this pseudohistory and troy: as soon as people started looking for it, they found the remains of troy.
Best part of this video: the commentary section! Obi-wan Kenobi: "TH-cam comment section. You will never find a more wretched hive of kooks and nutcasery. We must use our brains."
My theory is that while an actual city with the name "Atlantis" probably did not exist. But we know for a fact that massive stretches of human habited land have disappeared under water since the Neolithic period. Doggerland alone could account for many of the mythological origins of Atlantis. there certainly could have been a civilization or two swallowed up by the classical "deluge."
Doggerland? Lmao Nothing that took place in the British Isles during that period of ancient history comes even close to resembling the advanced civilizational -or supernatural character of the Atlanteans described by Plato. All that could be found in Neolithic Britain was a primitive ‘megalithic culture’ (similar to those found throughout the Atlantic coast of Europe) that a mixed population of early Eurasian agriculturalists and Western Hunter-Gather throwbacks crudely developed prior to the arrival of the proto-Indo Europeans. An Athenian would not gaze upon some piles of stones in Doggerland (no matter how fine the masonry involved was) and walk away with a sense of awe.
@@thebrocialist8300 Doggerland was underwater 1000's of years before Athens was founded but the idea of lost cultures could have been the source of the myths like Atlantis (which I think original poster is aware of). The most likely candidate was the Minoan civilization but as Toldinstone says its pretty likely Plato made it up for his parable.
HA, my husband has bits of DNA from the area of ancient Doggerland. No lie, it's been confirmed. Of course, he also has 2% Neanderthal DNA, too, and that I would believe at times. 🤣
If America would have been called Atlantis, nowadays people would say the past is repeating the end is near... hold on... that's happening none the less :)
I wouldn't say as sturdy as him that 'Atlantis is just a myth'. What he plays at is the current academic world that has a mainstream narrative of history; that it was a straight line from Ur to our own world. More and more times the archeologists have been proven to be dead wrong! 'Greeks didn't know gears'.... oops, then came the Antikythera mechanism that's more sophisticated then any Swiss watch today! civilization began in Uhr, and then... oops, actually civilization began probably some 8 thousand years earlier, as they found Gobekli Teppe with stonework and stone carving that best anything that comes thousands of years later. Egyptology is a laughable endeavor on it's own. 'The pyramids were build in 20 years' coz some Greek smuck Herodotus said so...... Oh really? We couldn't even do something like that in 200 years, the closest thing we come to is the Cathedrals and they took 150-200 years to build and none are as impressive as the pyramids. And these stupid dumb shit explanations of 'academic' archeologists: when in doubt say copper chisels and pounding stones like you can clearly see the unfinished obelisk having kind of scoop marks but no, pounding stones they say -_- .... they tried to make the nose of the Sphinx that way and it was an absolute catastrophic FAILURE! So I wouldn't count on academics to explain stuff coz they are proven wrong so often that calling it an 'educated guess' what they do is even exaggerating what it really is. On top, there are many practices of ancient Egypt that one can find in the Mayan culture... it's pretty odd that they use the exact same riet canoe to peddle on water, that they both have a hieroglyphic script, and you can go on and on about the similarities. Ever been to the Osirion in Egypt? Tell me that doesn't look like some structure that could easily fit in the Mayan culture... or the massively huge granite boxes of the Serrapeum of Saquara.... 'academic' archeologists don't even want to mention it's existence coz 1. they can't explain it and 2. Any effort in explaining it will throw their precious mainstream narrative in the mud. So I don't put a lot of faith in 'academic' archeologists, that go beyond +/- the Bronze Age where they can translate scripture.
To be clear, this is a comment about Garret’s wordplay. Plato’s school was called the Academy, so anything pertaining to Plato and his writings is Academic.
4:00 it's crazy that this stuff has been going on for well over 100 years. I always assumed Graham handcock and others basically invented this narrative recently
@Just think notice the name of the richat structure is a 'structure' only in the geologic sense of the word, that being, rocks deformed by geologic processes over time. In this case, its a textbook example of a dome fold structure cause by intrusion of magma as a laccolithic (lens-shaped) body beneath. We only see its intriguing outcrop pattern of rocks today because of cosmic coincidence, that we exist at a time where erosion has exposed the structure beatifully. If we had existed 10 million years ago, say, we'd never have seen it, some millions of years in the future, it'll likely be entirely gone only exposing the igneous rocks beneath.
Plato was most emphatic that the story of Atlantis was true history, and not a myth or allegory. He even went to the trouble of explaining that he got the story from his friend Critias, who got it from his grandfather, and traced the story back to Solon the famous Greek politician, who got it from some priests while on a trip to Egypt. In point of time, this would be like someone today coming out with a manuscript handed down in the family from Thomas Jefferson, who got it from some French priests while on a diplomatic mission to Paris. So that part is at least plausible.
@@Chrisbell804 It's about 10 miles across. Which isn't that large when you factor in the water that would have surrounded it. And a powerful civilization such as Plato described would have easily filled that area, water or not.
Plato's description of Atlantis is incredibly detailed. Yet modern "experts" call it a mere parable. The arrogance. Best thing is to read Plato's description yourself.
@@ZombieSolace Man I wish. I've only had one year of Greek and Latin. My best friend studied both for 6 years, he could do it, he's good but still struggles. It's a great language to know, unlocks access to many treasures, but you have to maintain it constantly. While back in the 19th century there were student's clubs where they only spoke a classical language. The bar has sure lowered with our so-called progress.
@@bromisovalum8417 I know what you mean. I studied 4 years and still struggle, specially with Greek. As you say, I believe the important thing is to keep reading, having the dictionary and the translation next to you is really helpful too.
Is it not true that various old/relatively isolated populations (e.g. the Guanches of Tenerife and the Aquitani/proto-Basques of Southwestern Europe) have/had preserved oral histories that trace their respective ethnocultural genealogies back to a similar ancient [Atlantean] civilization (the accounts sharing common motifs involving a deluge, etc) - OR are these just cases of certain parties (e.g. contemporary chroniclers, modern scholars,obscurantists) misinterpreting and/or misrepresenting the facts?
The problem with oral histories is that there is the “chicken or the egg” problem. Oral histories, just like written histories, are subject to outside influence, so many aspects of oral histories may contain elements that were added in by a later reciter of the history.
It is my dream even to this day to visit Atlantis in the Bahamas. Does anybody remember those commercials of people sliding through tubes surrounded by dolphins? Atlantis is real to me and it is indeed located in the Bahamas.
As a child I dreamed of Atlantis and UFOs. Then I grew up and decided to learn about things that really happened and really existed. Ask me anything about World War II, the greatest war ever! Most depressing war also actually.
Human history is just so weird, some old hack in ancient athens pulled some bullshit out of his ass to make a story to motivate debate and thousands of years later some other older hacks took it seriously and acrually lost time looking for it
Doggerland was a fully settled by humans over 6,000 years ago. Today it doesn't exist. Civilizations being swallowed up by water is not such an unlikely concept.
@@BlackMasterRoshi maybe when we did not know about geology and tectonic plates? But nowadays they are left naked as the actual dumbasses they were for even looking for it. Even romans in ancient times were like “yeah, thats a hilarious meme, haha atlantis? More like atlantities!”
Yes, and how are you going to have an ancient maritime city that's currently over 500 km from the nearest coast? There is no way the Richat Structure has anything to do with Atlantis.
All you have to do is ignore the timelines we've been given when it comes to a green Sahara. Plato puts Atlantis outside the pillars of Heracles, in what is now Mauritania. Google maps can be used to clearly show that the Richat structure is further west than the Straights of Gibraltar. In a green Sahara, Lake Chad was huge. There were rivers running east to west and multiple large lakes and ponds throughout what is now desert. There was access to the Mediterranean, as well as the Atlantic ocean. Plato describes white and black stones used in Atlantean construction- white and black stones just like what are commonly found near the foot of the aptly named Atlas mountain range, immediately north of the Richat structure in modern Mauritania. He describes a fresh water well in the center of the concentric circles of water and land rings of the city. Exactly like what is found at the Richat structure in modern Mauritania. There is clear evidence of a massive ancient washout from the Atlantic ocean in western Africa, visible from satellite imagery. Richat is Atlantis. The parallels are uncanny. The CIA even studied magnetic anomalies at this location- and still haven't released all of their findings. Worldwide, there are not only flood myths, but also physical evidence found off the coasts of the continents of ancient sunken cities. See the Indus civilization for a good example of this. There are ruins throughout the world (recently in Iraq) which have been underwater for a very long time, only visible now due to receding water levels. Atlantis was not an allegory. Plato would have identified it as such. See his other work, "THE ALLEGORY of the Cave". If he had meant it to be taken as such, he would have been clear about it. He spoke of Atlantis as a real place, well before his time. Ignore the flawed dating systems currently used by "scientists". Scientists whose careers are based on the available information not changing. There is money in the search, not in the find. Use your eyes. That's what Plato did. The Sahara was wet a lot more recently than we have been brought to believe.
When I fake my own Atlantis I plan to take a barge to Dogger Bank and start dumping scrounged up Greek and Roman statues overboard. Add in a few hundred specially minted coins and voila Atlantis. I will start a GoFundMe for "research" purposes. Thinking of calling it the Baceolus project.
I unfortunately think Disney got it more right than anyone else by teasing with Icelandic journals, because Aztlan means "Land of waterbirds" and the only true Waterbird of the Northern hemisphere is the Auks. Because of this, the Rockall Plateau is the best candidate that nobody seems to be interested in besides British and Icelandic cod fishermen. Asgard could have easily been Astlan, Askland, Aukland, Alkelund, Avalon. Gard, Eden, pLant, Lant, land are all variations of the same meaning; - cultivated lush land. Even the Basque language has the "Plant" root word meaning that it is very native to northwestern europe. Also bifrost, the rainbow bridge leading to asgard which only the gods (those with nautical and astronomical knowledge) could travel across is literally a frozen bridge of crystals and mist, placing Rockall Plateau perfectly within that myth as well during the time of atlantis. I think their highest technology would have been; - Oil-lamps from hunting seals and whales, - Decent ships due to being on an island that gradually lost the ice-bridge over the atlantic northern route. - an Advanced Astronomical calendar due to clear northern skies, navigational requirements and the benefit of predicting the seasons and thus the melting of the ice bridge. - Very healthy lifestyle and stature due to having the same diet as Orcas - Probably developed advanced mining and water management systems in order to keep their homeland from drowning (similar to netherlands with several reclamation projects, dams and dykes over a long period of time).
@@fredriks5090 Wow! Your theory is super interesting! I'd love to learn more about it, do you have any suggestions as to where or what to search for? Thanks!🤓😊
@@Gryphon2026 Unironically; - Tolkien He was dead serious about reviving british myth, and tried his best to mirror what the area would have been experienced like during the ice-age,- based on linguistics, myth, geography and climate. Read his books not simply as a child, but also as an adult. - Cloud Atlas also drops hints about this very real possibility within anthropology. The Wachowskis took Tolkien seriously, and so should you. Disney, Tolkien and Wachowskis share similar philosophy, because they're all interested in exploring the reality behind myth, language and music, especially that which got silenced by the Catholic censorship. (roman agenda in disguise)
Richat* And, unfortunately, displays no signs of man-made structures in the area. All we have found are some remnants of tools and bones left behind by nomadic human tribes in ancient times.
Our civilization is extremely dependent on crystals too: every digital clock or watch, every radio, every mobile phone ... All depend on tiny quartz crystals vibrating away at carefully tuned lengths to calibrated rates of vibration. The electro-mechanical property of quartz at the base of our technology may be just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows what other crystal will be discovered to hold the base of yet undiscovered technologies.
3:54 you lost so much credibility here. There is plenty of evidence of a small continent in that Atlantic that is not submerged. And yes it is right off the coast of Spain, exactly where Atlantis is supposed to be. Even the Templars knew about it.
Not sure if youre going to get a chance to read this but have u looked into Atlantis maybe being “the Eye of the Sahara” in Mauritania. It would of been green during the time plato gives in his dialogue, and also its shape fits the description Plato gives perfectly and theres also a ton of white, red, and black rocks in that area that plato also described them using to build homes. Which people in Mauritania still do to this day. Would love to see you make a video on it if you think its a bit credible
Look up the mid atlantic continental ridge. You can even see it on google earth. It went under the sea after the ice age. Spans from iceland to south america. That was the continent of Atlantis, the swazi was their symbol
@@deandarvin553 I think the fact that the legend exists tells you plenty of people went looking for it and some people probably spent good portions of their lives researching it
@@novalone3211 That's not causal evidence though, which is what Dr. Ryan is saying. Like, I agree with you, it's very likely someone did. But it's not explicitly in the historical record.
Atlantis was 100% real, there was a pyramid found underwater near the azores island, wich is located in the middle of the atlantic ocean, in front of Portugal exactly where plato said it was located, just as the end of the ice age when the level of the oceans increased, matches Plato's dates given for the submersion of atlantis. It was real folks. The myths are all based on humanity's lost history. This is why every religion as flood myths, were the survivors build boats, with domesticated animals wich are needed for agriculture, and then repopulate and re civilize the world, this is why almost every culture as myths about a "fish man" coming from the sea and teaching them everything about civilization from agriculture to language, architecture, etc.. it was THEM. The atlanteans.
the narrator obviously hasn't looked closely at the similarities of the megalithic structures spanning multiple continents. Sad how people just regurgitate what they get spoonfed in school as the truth when the truth is so much more sublime. Though Atlantis may be a made up name, the evidence of past super-civilizations of greater architectural and perhaps technological prowess than ours stare at us from all over the world.
than our current one? IOW - you a sort-of conspiracy theorist. (or maybe not sort-of if you think someone knows this secret and attempts to stop others from.. for reasons).
@@xBINARYGODx not really a theory when the proofs are there. This current society is petty and vain. I am a realist. Or if I take your approach, what you some kind of ignoramus? Scared of original thinking? If humanity does not learn to trust fully, what befell the greater civilizations of the past will quickly become our fate as well.
@Hyper Borean you can't do the whole attack helicopter thing - I mean, that is SO obvious, you are not even trying. And for what? ONE person replied to you. Aim higher, please - who knows, you might make an excellent troll - but right now, you're not even amateur.
Idk maybe I missed it, but it seems these videos is your own personal conclusion based on the way Plato often structured his writings, you assume he was making it up as an example to help draw comparisons between two civilizations taking different paths and how they’re decisions could affect their future.? That’s possible of course but you sound so definitive about it when we’ve barely scratched the surface of our past and the past of the planet and many things are just completely lost to history. Lots of stuff is under water. Coastlines have changed, islands have sunken and others popped up. I doubt they had crystal powered weapon and such but certain things described are too detailed and more importantly too realistic to be completely false. The structure and layout causeways, aqueducts etc of the Atlantis sounds a lot the Aztec city Tenochtitlan, so it’s a concept that works is what I’m saying. How many cities were laid out like that in Platos time? How you have a city, with no relation, set up almost exactly the same on the other side of the globe almost 2k years later.? I think if nothing else there was a city similar to what he describes. Somebody seen it somewhere. Whether it was an island in lake like Mexico or in the ocean maybe on the coastline. You did say he would talk with anyone who would listen. I’m sure he heard many stories. Even if he heard it as a rumor or a myth and made up 99% of the story, certain aspects of the story make me believe there’s a kernel of truth in it.
That’s the god argument you’d think we’d have found the city of Atlantis or one of the other 8 supposed kingdoms of Atlantis by now if it existed and if it was a prevalent and powerful as Plato wrote. We at least have writings by say the Greeks referencing them prior to Plato’s writings
Ok cool but why so smug, close minded and dismissive? Literally every advanced civilisation on earth talk about some form of Atlantis. This alone makes it at least worthwile to do some serious research on it. Any respectful archeologist/historian should at least keep an open mind on this subject.
I mean almost every form of early civilization has some form of flying serpent or dragon. You don’t see any historians saying there were flying dragons, ask most historians they’ll likely say it probably didn’t exist.
@@Aberman1 But there were flying dragons. Pterodactyls. Don’t ask me to link humanity to a 150 million year old extinct animal, I’m just saying flying dragons did, at one time, exist.
@@papwithanhatchet902 see for every one example of something that existed (and can’t really be linked) there’s animals like the unicorn that everyone agrees isn’t real and yet it’s been a cultural icon and will perhaps one day leave historians wondering what the hell we’re talking about
The other problem with the argument “every civilization has a form of a story like Atlantis” is that it proves that it’s more of an allegory than an actual place. The entire world couldn’t have known about it plain and simple during this time period, if we are going to say there are similar stories we have to accept it’s an allegory for how corrupt or non favored civilizations can fail
@@Aberman1 See, now, there are stories that have at one time been considered morality tales or parables that, under scrutiny, are discovered later to be likely histories. Troy, for example. Or the Exodus. I don’t think dismissive attitudes are helpful in the discovery of the past.
The problem is that we are given the opinion of European scholars writing a version of history that fits the Bible narrative and with the mindset the European civilization of their day was the humanities highest achievement.
@@rnbishop9185 very debatable but, we’re in the comment section of a TH-cam channel where no matter how much I throw cold hard fact at you it wouldn’t matter so I won’t bother, cause idc.
@@Aberman1 The whole reality you experience today is crafted by Western civilization and complemented by others. Can you name any other civilization that has contributed as much or more to global development than the west?
I find it remarkable how many similarities there are between stories about Atlantis and planet Krypton. It makes me wonder whether Plato got the ideas for his fable from discussions with Superman.
Well, superman is literally the story of Achilles
@@owensanfordstuff so what you're saying is, Achilles is an allegory for superman????? :0
@@mothballmouth an adaptation or inspiration etc but yes, basically yes. Human tell the same few stories over and over
@happi Achilles was the strongest warrior that was probably based on a real person, only exaggerated for story - the idea of the Ubermensch then adapted into a comicbook form for the masses. In the story, he was an immortal and invincible being from the moment he drank a liquid, except for his ankles. Superman was an invincible being for years until the writers made him more relatable, by giving him the weakness of Kryptonite.
Please@happi Achilles wasn't a reporter either. The point is not everything has to match up, but he was the super man back then.
If you want to look for a sunken city, there was one which sank during Plato's own lifetime: Helice, on the Gulf of Corinth.
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Helikie may have been some of the inspiration for Atlantis
The comment section under these Atlantis videos really makes you wonder how our ancestory ever made it down the trees.
Surely they fell out of the trees thus the pointy heads.
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@@andreasolsen3962 drag your teeth alot?!
Golbeki Tepe is older than Atlantis. Would love to hear your take on that era if you have a chance.
If our narrative is accurate its only older by 1 or 2 thousand Years. Not that big of a gap( joke) that being said I'd also love to know more and there is also mention of Atlantis in th old Frisain book the Ore Linda. However many count this to be a copy or made up. To me it's just interesting that another culture mentions Atlantis, how many others do ? Are they influenced by Plato ? Have you read the emerald tablet of Thoth? He mentions that they fled Atlantis and found Egypt and other places to settle.
I’ve been drawn to golbeki Tepe….I was shown I’m from Atlantis in a merge with my higher self. It’s real
Gobekli**... I mean I'm normally not pedantic, but if there were ever a channel for pedantry...
@@ossiencadwallourien-modred447 wrong as well, it's "Göbekli".
@@SM-zl4zd this is the type of interaction I expect on this channel. Love it. Thank you for your pedantry. I will be better.
So was Edgar Cayce's Version of a crystal powered Atlantis the inspiration for the animated Disney movie Atlantis?
So what you're saying is I may as well stop digging up my back garden looking for it?
Unless you really like digging
maybe you find something else?
Hahaha!
Because it’s in my back yard, duh!
@@ecurewitz Dammit, I knew it would be in somebody else's!
I don't understand why more people don't mention Crete as a possible Atlantis. The ancient peoples were highly intelligent beyond their time, in an island between Europe and Africa. A highly developed civilisation that was destroyed by natural disasters and abandoned. In fact when people returned to inhabit it, they believed it was giants who built the ancient ruins adding to the mystery of the ancient lost civilization. Seems obvious to me
Several mistaken facts. Firstly, Crete wasn't abandoned by its inhabitants after the Thera eruption. The Mycenaeans (greek forebears) conquered Crete shortly afterward but there was plenty of continuity even seen in modern genetic studies. For example adopting their script (known as Linear A) to write their proto-Greek language (Linear B), and much more.
Secondly, the builders of the walls later deemed to have been built by giants were the Mycenaeans, for example the walls of Mycenaea itself. And again, the Mycenaeans were to ancestors of the later greeks, but who of course mixed with the earlier inhabitants.
Also, the Bronze Age Collapse and fall of the Mycenaean civilization and subsequent dark age in greece was in about 1200 BCE. The Thera eruption was around 1600 BCE and Mycenaean golden age from 1400 BCE onwards.
It is fascinating though and interesting theories around the island of Thera, seen in the following video. I hope my comment don't come off as hostile, just wanted to clear up any confusion and prevent future readers get the wrong idea.
It's not past the straight of Gibraltar
Just because atlantis didnt exist doesnt mean we cant build it.
Its also a great disney movie
what the-
Whether or not the city ever existed the name Atlantis rocks!
Hell yeah
My new favourite history channel .
Much appreciated!
@@toldinstone we appreciate your work
Ya know this video is just some bits of history squeezed through the Bible. YELCH! This dude is boxed in and lookin for company
Pro tip bro:
The Eye of the Sahara was Atlantis. You can still see the rings and flood path to the Atlantic etc..
Love the video! You also have a soothing, pleasant voice and crystal clear diction - something rare these days - which makes it perfect for EFL students.
I'm very much into the legendary, submerged lands of Atlantis and Lemuria and all esoteric teachings about lost civilizations.
I'll look for part one and share both on the alternative media I've joined ever since I left Facebook and also on my two edublogs!
Thank you so much for making our days filled with a taste of the mythical worlds.
Glad you enjoyed it!
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@@andreasolsen3962 Thank you for the tip!🙏
Great video! 😊
The simplest debunking of Atlantis comes from thinking how such an advanced civilization left no clear mark on the rest of the world and never expanded from their Island continent and allowed their whole Legacy to die with them. Empires and kingdoms far less advanced than them already expanded more around the globe and left a larger mark
I'm always amazed I can read about an entirely new "world power" that held sway over 5 percent or more of the whole Earth for hundreds of years. With it's own language and culture that is gone. Completely. And I can read about a new one pretty much every day.
New to me*
There are always seekers, or suckers. Where I live the myth is that we live on the ancient continent of Mu or something like that.
People would say the same about Pompeii or Troy had we not located them.
@@BlackMasterRoshi there is a certain difference between all this pseudohistory and troy: as soon as people started looking for it, they found the remains of troy.
You shouldn't be so closed minded
Go Atlantis Falconis!
Best part of this video: the commentary section! Obi-wan Kenobi: "TH-cam comment section. You will never find a more wretched hive of kooks and nutcasery. We must use our brains."
,,, fits inn with the ' cave " analogy for the hard work of enlightnement ,, ... .
My theory is that while an actual city with the name "Atlantis" probably did not exist. But we know for a fact that massive stretches of human habited land have disappeared under water since the Neolithic period. Doggerland alone could account for many of the mythological origins of Atlantis. there certainly could have been a civilization or two swallowed up by the classical "deluge."
Doggerland? Lmao Nothing that took place in the British Isles during that period of ancient history comes even close to resembling the advanced civilizational -or supernatural character of the Atlanteans described by Plato.
All that could be found in Neolithic Britain was a primitive ‘megalithic culture’ (similar to those found throughout the Atlantic coast of Europe) that a mixed population of early Eurasian agriculturalists and Western Hunter-Gather throwbacks crudely developed prior to the arrival of the proto-Indo Europeans. An Athenian would not gaze upon some piles of stones in Doggerland (no matter how fine the masonry involved was) and walk away with a sense of awe.
@@thebrocialist8300 Doggerland was underwater 1000's of years before Athens was founded but the idea of lost cultures could have been the source of the myths like Atlantis (which I think original poster is aware of). The most likely candidate was the Minoan civilization but as Toldinstone says its pretty likely Plato made it up for his parable.
The glaciers did it
HA, my husband has bits of DNA from the area of ancient Doggerland. No lie, it's been confirmed. Of course, he also has 2% Neanderthal DNA, too, and that I would believe at times. 🤣
This was an excellent video. My only critique is that it is not long enough!!
Thank you! And I've actually been tinkering with the idea of making some longer videos, so stay tuned...
Perhaps Atlantis is a legend echo from west India's sunken ruins most ancient.
If America would have been called Atlantis, nowadays people would say the past is repeating the end is near... hold on... that's happening none the less :)
We calls it 'Murica.
A good day to you Sir!!!
Also we have far more than merely 10 kings
That’s bill bellicheck that wrote that book @ 2:40
Excellent commentary. Thank you for your entertaining presentation.
Donnelly was the Graham Hancock of his time lmaooo
hell of a compliment thank you!
Fascinating!
idk if you've seen the bright insight channel's video's on atlantis, but i find his conclusion to be the most supported location.
I think the same!
same, great vid lots of evidence
no watch Randall Carlson he debunks it and gives an alternative in the Azores with through scientific and
geological evidence
@@neoclassic09 scientific and
geological evidence is amply provided in bright insights video lmao
@@daroth7127 he does not cite geology or studies
“All this, however, was purely … Academic.” Well played.
I wouldn't say as sturdy as him that 'Atlantis is just a myth'. What he plays at is the current academic world that has a mainstream narrative of history; that it was a straight line from Ur to our own world. More and more times the archeologists have been proven to be dead wrong! 'Greeks didn't know gears'.... oops, then came the Antikythera mechanism that's more sophisticated then any Swiss watch today! civilization began in Uhr, and then... oops, actually civilization began probably some 8 thousand years earlier, as they found Gobekli Teppe with stonework and stone carving that best anything that comes thousands of years later. Egyptology is a laughable endeavor on it's own. 'The pyramids were build in 20 years' coz some Greek smuck Herodotus said so...... Oh really? We couldn't even do something like that in 200 years, the closest thing we come to is the Cathedrals and they took 150-200 years to build and none are as impressive as the pyramids.
And these stupid dumb shit explanations of 'academic' archeologists: when in doubt say copper chisels and pounding stones like you can clearly see the unfinished obelisk having kind of scoop marks but no, pounding stones they say -_- .... they tried to make the nose of the Sphinx that way and it was an absolute catastrophic FAILURE! So I wouldn't count on academics to explain stuff coz they are proven wrong so often that calling it an 'educated guess' what they do is even exaggerating what it really is.
On top, there are many practices of ancient Egypt that one can find in the Mayan culture... it's pretty odd that they use the exact same riet canoe to peddle on water, that they both have a hieroglyphic script, and you can go on and on about the similarities. Ever been to the Osirion in Egypt? Tell me that doesn't look like some structure that could easily fit in the Mayan culture... or the massively huge granite boxes of the Serrapeum of Saquara.... 'academic' archeologists don't even want to mention it's existence coz 1. they can't explain it and 2. Any effort in explaining it will throw their precious mainstream narrative in the mud. So I don't put a lot of faith in 'academic' archeologists, that go beyond +/- the Bronze Age where they can translate scripture.
To be clear, this is a comment about Garret’s wordplay. Plato’s school was called the Academy, so anything pertaining to Plato and his writings is Academic.
prefab sprout reference?
4:00 it's crazy that this stuff has been going on for well over 100 years. I always assumed Graham handcock and others basically invented this narrative recently
@Just think so what lol
@Just think I never said Graham handcock and friends aren't correct. I'm asking why you're randomly giving me a video and stuff
@Just think ok kid lmao
@Just think notice the name of the richat structure is a 'structure' only in the geologic sense of the word, that being, rocks deformed by geologic processes over time. In this case, its a textbook example of a dome fold structure cause by intrusion of magma as a laccolithic (lens-shaped) body beneath. We only see its intriguing outcrop pattern of rocks today because of cosmic coincidence, that we exist at a time where erosion has exposed the structure beatifully. If we had existed 10 million years ago, say, we'd never have seen it, some millions of years in the future, it'll likely be entirely gone only exposing the igneous rocks beneath.
awesome
So many great mountain chains were raised from the little mole hill Plato crapped out so many eons ago. It is a little embarrassing.
Plato was most emphatic that the story of Atlantis was true history, and not a myth or allegory. He even went to the trouble of explaining that he got the story from his friend Critias, who got it from his grandfather, and traced the story back to Solon the famous Greek politician, who got it from some priests while on a trip to Egypt.
In point of time, this would be like someone today coming out with a manuscript handed down in the family from Thomas Jefferson, who got it from some French priests while on a diplomatic mission to Paris. So that part is at least plausible.
"Atlantis resurfaced after the discovery of the New World." 😆
"Eye of the Sahara" matches Plato's writings describing Atlantis
Too big
Nope, measurements are exact to Plato's description.
@@Chrisbell804 It's about 10 miles across. Which isn't that large when you factor in the water that would have surrounded it. And a powerful civilization such as Plato described would have easily filled that area, water or not.
Well, I guess "powered by crystals" explains where Stargate got the idea from!
was Hermes Trismegistus a lier or fake as well
Plato's description of Atlantis is incredibly detailed. Yet modern "experts" call it a mere parable. The arrogance. Best thing is to read Plato's description yourself.
But please, learn to read it in Greek or you will be reading just another translator.
@@ZombieSolace Man I wish. I've only had one year of Greek and Latin. My best friend studied both for 6 years, he could do it, he's good but still struggles. It's a great language to know, unlocks access to many treasures, but you have to maintain it constantly. While back in the 19th century there were student's clubs where they only spoke a classical language. The bar has sure lowered with our so-called progress.
My solution is to read a 19th century translation, where original text and translation are presented side to side.
@@bromisovalum8417 I know what you mean. I studied 4 years and still struggle, specially with Greek. As you say, I believe the important thing is to keep reading, having the dictionary and the translation next to you is really helpful too.
Very good vid. A video on the Ashknazi civilization would be appreciated. Keep up the unknown history vids. Thanks
Really more of a counter-civilization...
@@BlackMasterRoshi
WWLD♠️
@@BlackMasterRoshi
Ah, someone who bitches about Jews online, totally unexpected and not indicative of your life lacking meaning or purpose at all
The Nazis were too Faustian for their own good
Is it not true that various old/relatively isolated populations (e.g. the Guanches of Tenerife and the Aquitani/proto-Basques of Southwestern Europe) have/had preserved oral histories that trace their respective ethnocultural genealogies back to a similar ancient [Atlantean] civilization (the accounts sharing common motifs involving a deluge, etc) - OR are these just cases of certain parties (e.g. contemporary chroniclers, modern scholars,obscurantists) misinterpreting and/or misrepresenting the facts?
The problem with oral histories is that there is the “chicken or the egg” problem. Oral histories, just like written histories, are subject to outside influence, so many aspects of oral histories may contain elements that were added in by a later reciter of the history.
It is my dream even to this day to visit Atlantis in the Bahamas. Does anybody remember those commercials of people sliding through tubes surrounded by dolphins? Atlantis is real to me and it is indeed located in the Bahamas.
Not seeing part 3
Modern Atlantis enthusiasts
How did Plato invent Atlantis when the Egyptians also had records of Atlantis?
He didn’t, and your correct Egyptians had thousands of records on Atlantis
Conspiracies....thank God we don't have those any more.
atlantis is all over the world. all people and cultures were flooded after the iceage so no surprise that flood myths is a basis in all cultures.
What if Atlantis is a future civilization and eventually time bends around like a snake eating its own tail? Is that an existing theory?
As a child I dreamed of Atlantis and UFOs.
Then I grew up and decided to learn about things that really happened and really existed.
Ask me anything about World War II, the greatest war ever!
Most depressing war also actually.
Cries in the lost generation of the great war.
@@turtleofpride4572 That would be World War I, of course.
Human history is just so weird, some old hack in ancient athens pulled some bullshit out of his ass to make a story to motivate debate and thousands of years later some other older hacks took it seriously and acrually lost time looking for it
Doggerland was a fully settled by humans over 6,000 years ago. Today it doesn't exist. Civilizations being swallowed up by water is not such an unlikely concept.
@@BlackMasterRoshi maybe when we did not know about geology and tectonic plates? But nowadays they are left naked as the actual dumbasses they were for even looking for it. Even romans in ancient times were like “yeah, thats a hilarious meme, haha atlantis? More like atlantities!”
@@BlackMasterRoshi Doggerland wasn’t a “civilization”.
Have you heard the theory about the Richat Structure in Mauritania being the location of Atlantis?
Yes, and how are you going to have an ancient maritime city that's currently over 500 km from the nearest coast? There is no way the Richat Structure has anything to do with Atlantis.
Perhaps, as with many modern stories, it was originally touted as being ‘based upon real events’😑
The crystals he spoke of was in fact kryptonite.
Isleof the dogs , tennorreafe...the volcano today , the Azores , it's about right geographically , so go find the garbage ...
What about Doggerland?
It was like that when I found it, honest.
my mum was so into this. wow such scams.
They used to think Troy was fictitious as well. 🤔
Yep, interesting enough a German found it right where it was described and as it was described.
All you have to do is ignore the timelines we've been given when it comes to a green Sahara. Plato puts Atlantis outside the pillars of Heracles, in what is now Mauritania. Google maps can be used to clearly show that the Richat structure is further west than the Straights of Gibraltar.
In a green Sahara, Lake Chad was huge. There were rivers running east to west and multiple large lakes and ponds throughout what is now desert. There was access to the Mediterranean, as well as the Atlantic ocean.
Plato describes white and black stones used in Atlantean construction- white and black stones just like what are commonly found near the foot of the aptly named Atlas mountain range, immediately north of the Richat structure in modern Mauritania.
He describes a fresh water well in the center of the concentric circles of water and land rings of the city. Exactly like what is found at the Richat structure in modern Mauritania.
There is clear evidence of a massive ancient washout from the Atlantic ocean in western Africa, visible from satellite imagery.
Richat is Atlantis.
The parallels are uncanny.
The CIA even studied magnetic anomalies at this location- and still haven't released all of their findings.
Worldwide, there are not only flood myths, but also physical evidence found off the coasts of the continents of ancient sunken cities. See the Indus civilization for a good example of this. There are ruins throughout the world (recently in Iraq) which have been underwater for a very long time, only visible now due to receding water levels.
Atlantis was not an allegory.
Plato would have identified it as such.
See his other work, "THE ALLEGORY of the Cave". If he had meant it to be taken as such, he would have been clear about it.
He spoke of Atlantis as a real place, well before his time.
Ignore the flawed dating systems currently used by "scientists". Scientists whose careers are based on the available information not changing. There is money in the search, not in the find.
Use your eyes. That's what Plato did.
The Sahara was wet a lot more recently than we have been brought to believe.
Stop huffing paint remover
I think Atlantis refers to the Minoans and the island of Crete.
Nope
When I fake my own Atlantis I plan to take a barge to Dogger Bank and start dumping scrounged up Greek and Roman statues overboard. Add in a few hundred specially minted coins and voila Atlantis. I will start a GoFundMe for "research" purposes. Thinking of calling it the Baceolus project.
I like your style
I unfortunately think Disney got it more right than anyone else by teasing with Icelandic journals, because Aztlan means "Land of waterbirds" and the only true Waterbird of the Northern hemisphere is the Auks.
Because of this, the Rockall Plateau is the best candidate that nobody seems to be interested in besides British and Icelandic cod fishermen.
Asgard could have easily been Astlan, Askland, Aukland, Alkelund, Avalon.
Gard, Eden, pLant, Lant, land are all variations of the same meaning; - cultivated lush land. Even the Basque language has the "Plant" root word meaning that it is very native to northwestern europe.
Also bifrost, the rainbow bridge leading to asgard which only the gods (those with nautical and astronomical knowledge) could travel across is literally a frozen bridge of crystals and mist, placing Rockall Plateau perfectly within that myth as well during the time of atlantis.
I think their highest technology would have been;
- Oil-lamps from hunting seals and whales,
- Decent ships due to being on an island that gradually lost the ice-bridge over the atlantic northern route.
- an Advanced Astronomical calendar due to clear northern skies, navigational requirements and the benefit of predicting the seasons and thus the melting of the ice bridge.
- Very healthy lifestyle and stature due to having the same diet as Orcas
- Probably developed advanced mining and water management systems in order to keep their homeland from drowning (similar to netherlands with several reclamation projects, dams and dykes over a long period of time).
@@fredriks5090 Wow!
Your theory is super interesting!
I'd love to learn more about it, do you have any suggestions as to where or what to search for?
Thanks!🤓😊
@@Gryphon2026 Unironically;
- Tolkien
He was dead serious about reviving british myth, and tried his best to mirror what the area would have been experienced like during the ice-age,- based on linguistics, myth, geography and climate.
Read his books not simply as a child, but also as an adult.
- Cloud Atlas also drops hints about this very real possibility within anthropology.
The Wachowskis took Tolkien seriously, and so should you.
Disney, Tolkien and Wachowskis share similar philosophy, because they're all interested in exploring the reality behind myth, language and music, especially that which got silenced by the Catholic censorship. (roman agenda in disguise)
I’m still waiting on evidence that we’re advanced or intelligent.
I've heard rumors and speculation only...
Are you from Atlantis?
(sound muffled by water) No, stop looking for us, I mean them...
I hope I'm not jumping to conclusions, but I'm starting to think that you don't believe in Atlantis....
React to bright insight atlantis theory plz
The Rickette Structure fits all descriptions
Richat*
And, unfortunately, displays no signs of man-made structures in the area. All we have found are some remnants of tools and bones left behind by nomadic human tribes in ancient times.
You didn't mention about the Egyptian priests mention Atlantis
He did in the first video. It was just as unconvincing then
it was beyond the Pillars of Hercules, more likely along the coast of Atlantic facing Spain/Portugal
Solon? Nah doesn't suit my narrative
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Our civilization is extremely dependent on crystals too: every digital clock or watch, every radio, every mobile phone ... All depend on tiny quartz crystals vibrating away at carefully tuned lengths to calibrated rates of vibration. The electro-mechanical property of quartz at the base of our technology may be just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows what other crystal will be discovered to hold the base of yet undiscovered technologies.
3:54 you lost so much credibility here. There is plenty of evidence of a small continent in that Atlantic that is not submerged. And yes it is right off the coast of Spain, exactly where Atlantis is supposed to be. Even the Templars knew about it.
When you start bringing up the Templars, you're going down tinfoil hat lane 💀💀💀
It's a good name, but indeed a fabrication seems most credible
Not sure if youre going to get a chance to read this but have u looked into Atlantis maybe being “the Eye of the Sahara” in Mauritania. It would of been green during the time plato gives in his dialogue, and also its shape fits the description Plato gives perfectly and theres also a ton of white, red, and black rocks in that area that plato also described them using to build homes. Which people in Mauritania still do to this day. Would love to see you make a video on it if you think its a bit credible
The main problem is it's over 500 km from the nearest coast today, and 12,000 years ago, it would have been even further away from the sea.
Funny bc crystals have been found with copper "ribbons" attached to them in large artifacts sometimes shaped like giant turtles all over india.
Has anyone looked at shorelines 9000 ago? Maybe something got covered up since then. Or was it 11000 from us?
There is always a kernel of truth in myth.
diagnosoin sinulla reddit-aivon :/
The oceans were at least 200 ft lower than they are now, I'm sure Atlantis was real, it wasn't just Plato who recorded history.
U clearly haven’t listened to the first 9 episodes of kosmographia by Randall Carlson. He make a very strong argument.
Look up the mid atlantic continental ridge. You can even see it on google earth. It went under the sea after the ice age. Spans from iceland to south america. That was the continent of Atlantis, the swazi was their symbol
"No Greek or Roman ever went looking for Atlantis"
Yeah there's no fucking way that's true
Calm down there's no evidence of it.
Sure one guy, unbeknownst to everyone else, may have tried.
@@deandarvin553 I think the fact that the legend exists tells you plenty of people went looking for it and some people probably spent good portions of their lives researching it
@@novalone3211 That's not causal evidence though, which is what Dr. Ryan is saying.
Like, I agree with you, it's very likely someone did. But it's not explicitly in the historical record.
@@deandarvin553 most stuff isn't
@@novalone3211 uh, yeah.
I believe that atlantis was located where bermuda triangle is now located
Doggerland
Very weak
Atlantis was 100% real, there was a pyramid found underwater near the azores island, wich is located in the middle of the atlantic ocean, in front of Portugal exactly where plato said it was located, just as the end of the ice age when the level of the oceans increased, matches Plato's dates given for the submersion of atlantis. It was real folks. The myths are all based on humanity's lost history. This is why every religion as flood myths, were the survivors build boats, with domesticated animals wich are needed for agriculture, and then repopulate and re civilize the world, this is why almost every culture as myths about a "fish man" coming from the sea and teaching them everything about civilization from agriculture to language, architecture, etc.. it was THEM. The atlanteans.
Nope
What do you call the Richat Structure in Mauritania, an invention? That's Atlantis.
It's Santorini. End of story.
the narrator obviously hasn't looked closely at the similarities of the megalithic structures spanning multiple continents. Sad how people just regurgitate what they get spoonfed in school as the truth when the truth is so much more sublime. Though Atlantis may be a made up name, the evidence of past super-civilizations of greater architectural and perhaps technological prowess than ours stare at us from all over the world.
Exactly
than our current one? IOW - you a sort-of conspiracy theorist. (or maybe not sort-of if you think someone knows this secret and attempts to stop others from.. for reasons).
@@xBINARYGODx not really a theory when the proofs are there. This current society is petty and vain. I am a realist. Or if I take your approach, what you some kind of ignoramus? Scared of original thinking? If humanity does not learn to trust fully, what befell the greater civilizations of the past will quickly become our fate as well.
@@kemico1272 you mentioned evidence?
Lol no
Atlantis is real it in the desert.
Eye Of Sahara, Chinguetti, Mauritania ! Atlantis ?
Crystal driven superweapons... so, not up on microchip design? Its crystal silicon.
i enjoy your work but i have a problem with the mainstream academic view on this. ill save the rant though lol.
i would like to hear your rant!
@Hyper Borean what are you even talking about
"Trans people exist and therefore Atlantis is real"?????
@@jeremysworld3061 he’s a troll he rants on all the videos spouting nonsense
@Hyper Borean you can't do the whole attack helicopter thing - I mean, that is SO obvious, you are not even trying. And for what? ONE person replied to you.
Aim higher, please - who knows, you might make an excellent troll - but right now, you're not even amateur.
Its real. Its called Hyperborea
It’s called a hypothesis born of your homoerotic ‘Norse’ infatuation.
@@thebrocialist8300 Fact check: its real
@@Stoonk am very interested, could you provide some facts on hyperborea?
@@alexmuller6752 Yes of course.
1. Its real
2. its real
3. It is real
@@Stoonk oh if it is that obvious
Idk maybe I missed it, but it seems these videos is your own personal conclusion based on the way Plato often structured his writings, you assume he was making it up as an example to help draw comparisons between two civilizations taking different paths and how they’re decisions could affect their future.?
That’s possible of course but you sound so definitive about it when we’ve barely scratched the surface of our past and the past of the planet and many things are just completely lost to history.
Lots of stuff is under water.
Coastlines have changed, islands have sunken and others popped up.
I doubt they had crystal powered weapon and such but certain things described are too detailed and more importantly too realistic to be completely false.
The structure and layout causeways, aqueducts etc of the Atlantis sounds a lot the Aztec city Tenochtitlan, so it’s a concept that works is what I’m saying.
How many cities were laid out like that in Platos time?
How you have a city, with no relation, set up almost exactly the same on the other side of the globe almost 2k years later.?
I think if nothing else there was a city similar to what he describes.
Somebody seen it somewhere.
Whether it was an island in lake like Mexico or in the ocean maybe on the coastline.
You did say he would talk with anyone who would listen.
I’m sure he heard many stories.
Even if he heard it as a rumor or a myth and made up 99% of the story, certain aspects of the story make me believe there’s a kernel of truth in it.
Atlantis was based on the Minoan Civilization.
Spoiler alert: the fake city was named after the real ocean (which got its Greek name from the Atlas mountains).
Atlantis is the remains of the Azores now
Interesting that you think Atlantis is bunk and can't be proved
But it can't be disproved either
Russell's Teapot
That’s the god argument you’d think we’d have found the city of Atlantis or one of the other 8 supposed kingdoms of Atlantis by now if it existed and if it was a prevalent and powerful as Plato wrote. We at least have writings by say the Greeks referencing them prior to Plato’s writings
@@Aberman1 manly hall's work on Atlantis is worth checking out
It's pretty comprehensive
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Ok cool but why so smug, close minded and dismissive? Literally every advanced civilisation on earth talk about some form of Atlantis. This alone makes it at least worthwile to do some serious research on it. Any respectful archeologist/historian should at least keep an open mind on this subject.
I mean almost every form of early civilization has some form of flying serpent or dragon. You don’t see any historians saying there were flying dragons, ask most historians they’ll likely say it probably didn’t exist.
@@Aberman1 But there were flying dragons. Pterodactyls. Don’t ask me to link humanity to a 150 million year old extinct animal, I’m just saying flying dragons did, at one time, exist.
@@papwithanhatchet902 see for every one example of something that existed (and can’t really be linked) there’s animals like the unicorn that everyone agrees isn’t real and yet it’s been a cultural icon and will perhaps one day leave historians wondering what the hell we’re talking about
The other problem with the argument “every civilization has a form of a story like Atlantis” is that it proves that it’s more of an allegory than an actual place. The entire world couldn’t have known about it plain and simple during this time period, if we are going to say there are similar stories we have to accept it’s an allegory for how corrupt or non favored civilizations can fail
@@Aberman1 See, now, there are stories that have at one time been considered morality tales or parables that, under scrutiny, are discovered later to be likely histories. Troy, for example. Or the Exodus. I don’t think dismissive attitudes are helpful in the discovery of the past.
Why u no say all the true??
What about the allien looking like flying elephant??
The problem is that we are given the opinion of European scholars writing a version of history that fits the Bible narrative and with the mindset the European civilization of their day was the humanities highest achievement.
Western civilization is humanities highest achievement.
@@rnbishop9185 debatable.
@@Aberman1 it's not only humanities highest achievement but also humanities only hope.
@@rnbishop9185 very debatable but, we’re in the comment section of a TH-cam channel where no matter how much I throw cold hard fact at you it wouldn’t matter so I won’t bother, cause idc.
@@Aberman1 The whole reality you experience today is crafted by Western civilization and complemented by others. Can you name any other civilization that has contributed as much or more to global development than the west?