Plato Describes Atlantis // First Mention of the Island // 360 BC 'Critias'
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- Created by Plato as a antagonistic rival to his idealistic interpretation of "Ancient Athens", his portrait of Atlantis is nevertheless incredibly detailed - describing the history of the island, its geography, and finally the people who counted the doomed paradise their home before they met their end beneath the waves.
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I was waiting for Plato to tell me how I can support him on patreon......
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I am not surprised in Bali 2012 I had a bizarre experience meeting one of my Ancestors from another realm, out of common people logic spiritual understanding. As surrounding of Bali's 4 mountains, is Gate 7 of Earth's Chakra 7th which is Mount Kailash Tibet.
Called Hindia, Indus, Indo (also Indo Europe and Indo Persia), even Indonesia means Indo Nesos, Indo Islands, exactly on center of Equator line. Richest nature on entire world, resourceful both on and in the ground.
Most humid yet stable weather all year around, alway sunrise at 6 AM to sunset 6 PM.
Sumatra itself means Sumer/Summer/Sun/Gold and Tera/Terre/Earth/Land = Mother of Sumeria.
The highest humidity and with so many volcanoes than anywhere in the world made the things decaying easily, even worldwide still don't know about our oldest ancient civilization before the massive eruption of Toba 74000 years ago resulted today world's larget crater lake, volcanic Toba lake with width around 100 kilometers. As our Ancestors were even much more advanced than us today and flee towards today Europe, Middle East, America escaped the eruption larger than Yellowstone USA.
#Indonesia
;) Jesus/Isa, Muhammad, even Abraham/Ibrahim never lived around the world alone since child, they don't even speak world languages ;) I am an #Aquarius (Sun + Moon + Pallas).
#Indonesia #religion #islam #christianity #judaism #israel #ksa #saudiarabia #vatican all of them are just of very poor nature of middle east and west.
Religion = region rely on their legion and legislation. Yes very poor nature regions, the system to fool and conquer the world and no more! Enough of lies! #Truth #Indonesia #RealRich
@@RIZFERD what the fuck is this dude
Elijah is a book based on mythology of the greeks and other Anatolia civilizations.
@@RIZFERD Any chance you could translate any of that? The only thing I could get out of that was you're some sort of god king, superior to both Jesus and Muhammad and your sun, moon, pallas religion is superior to their primitive false beliefs? Did I miss something?
@@italianwaffle5592 my thoughts exactly! How do you even begin to untangle those wires! It's as if I just opened my spare computer, phone cable, wire and adapter drawer; what a mess!
It makes me think the classical people looked back on the achievements of the bronze age with the same kind of romanticism that we look back on them.
@Hyper Borean poopoo peepee
@Hyper Borean sir this is a Wendy's
people in the year 4000: They even had iphones
I read this in Scruffy's voice
Let's talk about how the Egyptians didn't make the pyramids but they moved in. An Ancient civilization got wiped off by a flood. Did ya know about the pyramid in Indonesia that dates back 25,000 year ago older then the pyramids of Egypt
isn't it too much of a coincidence that almost all myths, legends, religions has a reference to a great flood? The younger Dryas impact hypothesis is *very* interesting
I am convinced that this is where these stories originate from. Pretty much every civilization has a story of a great flood
In 2004 and 2011 we have witnessed devastating tsunami's. I'm pretty sure that these weren't the only ones registered in human history and imo these events are what the flood myths speak of.
@@jeanemare4116 care to explain sea fossils on mountain peaks then
@@elizabethjansen2684 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
shin nope, ocean plates dive under continental plates, they are also now finding that the plates stay intact until they melt. Wiki is notorious for wrong information
* People saying Atlantis wasn't in the Atlantic *
Plato: Did I stutter
People also arent considering the oceans werent neccesarily the exact same sea level then...
People also ignoring the fact that plato created Atlantis as a sort of short story or parable not an actual place
@@Kai-lp5ej That's not a fact. That is a bad hypothesis.
Other cultures (Vedic, Aztec) also refer to Atlantis by similar names. Plato does not give any indication that the story is fictional.
Finally a telling of the story of Atlantis as close as it was originally written as possible. Thank you voices of the past.
the Kemetic version is better
@@josephparker5217 oh so you prefer the fake and gay version to the only authentic one
SOLON got the story from an Kemetic preist so that would make their version the authentic on! Secondly homosexual culture is rooted in western culture IE Greeks and Romans that's why it's so prevalent in Western Culture now! And that's historical and Scientific Fact! So I have no idea what your talking about! Like the Priest told Solon there's not an OLD MAN AMONG YOU !
@@josephparker5217 Kemet is a term which didn't exist at Solon's time
@@withnail-and-ibut we wuz kangz n shieeeett
What if the missing text is actually just Plato teasing the Greeks at the marketplace to buy the next issue when he releases it?
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Turns out he was a cheap novel author.....haaaah
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Then i will have to say to you my sir. It worked. (hahahahahajah)
The detail of Atlantis sinking, not into water but “impassable mud” really stood out to me.
Sameeee
Mud flood theories are on rise. Resets were more frequent then thought of ONE deluge.
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If you read what Plato wrote in the original Ancient Greek, you'll find that Plato wrote that Atlantis was an island on a lake/inland water body that was covered by water. Plato never wrote that Atlantis sank into the ocean. He wrote that the island of Atlantis was covered by water, subsided and created an impassable barrier of mud to sailors. I've used Plato's description of Atlantis along with etymology, local cultural history and religion, etc., in order to help confirm the capital of Atlantis's location by applying scientific method to where numerous experts say that Atlantis's capital is.
@@Matt-gg2cq Alright, I'll bite: "in order to help confirm the capital of Atlantis's location by applying scientific method to where numerous experts say that Atlantis's capital is." that confirmed capital being _where_ exactly?
19:37 I just love it. It still touches me so deeply. All the descriptions of lost paradises and utopias and heavens to come. The yearning of the soul for a better world, the warnings about the demise of men, should proper behavior and rule of law be abandoned, and vice versa the blessings of the gods, of nature and culture to be reaped if followed thoroughly. - All those warnings against the dark ages and the tales of the golden ages. Be it in legends or written anew in Fantasy or SciFi - I don’t care: the story never gets old, as each generation must appropriate it for themselves as for civilization to continue.
Plato, in the original text (Greek), does not use "grater in extend" but rather "mightier" than Asia and libia put together.
Thanks, that makes a huge difference.
And the texts originating in Egypt gives you an idea of the power of Atlantis and the threat they posed to Egypt and the eastern Mediterranean because Libya and Asia (probably Asia Minor) were traditional enemies and rivals of the Egyptians
greater and mightier would be different but greater in extent and mightier in extent might not.
@@brianbutterworth6107 "greater in extend" does not exists in the greek texts. There is lots of details lost in translation
FYI: the word that plato uses to refer to the atlantis island puttin in perspective libia and asia put together is "μεγαλύτερο".
It can be interpreted as "Great", "Very Important", "Bigger" as well. So "greater in extend" is a bad translation as it explicity refers to size but plato does not.
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...."the rest of the text has been lost" ....just when the story was getting good.
Atlantis was a real place, located in Mauritania in what we now call the Eye of the Sahara. Look it up.
@Metal Force more like the page ripped out and stored in the Vatican vaults
@@supahsmashbro no evidence yet, that's still a theory
@@supahsmashbro How did such civilisation get mentioned only by few and leave no trace ever behind ? You are all thinking about ghost stories.
@@plazmica0323 There's actually a lot of evidence behind. Just because you're ignorant of it doesn't mean it's not out there if you just look. Check out Bright Insight's vid on it or stay thinking you're better because you refuse to look something up.
Remember, Troy was thought to be pure fiction...until they found it. Why assume Atlantis is not based on something real?
Because you have never yet heard of Santorini. Obvious.
oiSnowy you’ve officially sent me on a wild goose chase bro thanks 👍🏼😂
I wouldn't be surprised the fallen angels had these advanced civilizations engineered all over the earth.
Because the timeline that Plato describes, the backstory of how he came along the story of Atlantis, as well as the location he gave for Atlantis are all utter bullshit.
I like to believe that the Eye of the Sahara is Atlantis if we take into account of the 9000 years ago from Plato's time it would be about 12,000 years ago ish. With the Younger Dryas period occurring around then which likely elevated sea levels by several hundred feet and then washed back away it would have created a huge desert in the western African coast which we see today. If Atlantis really is from beyond the pillars of Hercules then the Eye would have been a great spot for Atlantis as it would have fit the description given pretty well.
Circular rings check
Evidence of Elephants check
Fresh water springs in the center check
mountain range with 4 rivers with a plateau plains on top check
Opens to the sea to the south (if the water levels are right for the era) check
it's so clear from his account that it was a volcanic island,; hot springs, a small cone in a very fertile plain ( caldera) etc.
Loonytoones85 we could claim that what is going on and has gone on over millennia are merely the power of our imagination but you can't deny the accuracy of concepts like the allegory of the cave or 1984 and how they represent today's society.
Well Edgar Cayce said they blew the island up harnessing crystal energy and it separated into many islands hence, the Caribbean like Cuba, Florida Keys, Bahama, etc
Check out the Richat structure. It’s a pretty good idea of the location of atlantis
Chris Pacheco no, I’m legitimately serious. The richat structure was once surrounded by water. There are ruins of pottery there, and it is in Mauretania, which was ruled by King Atlas. It has rings as described. Seriously go check it out. Atlantas may not have been as great as once thought, but the possibility is there
@Loonytoones85 never heard of tsunamis and rising sea levels?
"Asia" refers to Anatolia.
Possibly so - because this is from 9000 years before Solon, Plato's grandfather..
Did Plato say the latitude & longitude of the island?
Asia the word derives from the Anatolia kingdom of Asuwa. The name stuck and like all words that are borrowed they change as people get drunk and have speech impediments lol
@@leocarlsson488 you're an idiot
Leo Carlsson the USA didn’t exist back then and it’s much much bigger than Lybia and Asia
What the hell have I been YouTubing? This stuff is gold.
That ending...
When the Library of Alexandria was razed was a great loss for this sort of knowledge.
Watch Ryder The truth is being given to the first fruits, the leadership, of the 144,000
@BoobaDoo The video begins by speaking of the ancient war that was in the heavens.
It's a war that destroyed a planet that is now an asteroid belt. This war also wiped away the atmosphere of Mars. There is a satellite in geocentric orbit called the dark knight satellite.It's believed to be 35,000 year old.
There are 500,000 year old very large hollowed out caves from pole shifts,
called a magma dome.
hese are often used for expanding and building underground cities. Justwatch videos from Phil Schneider Then you will recognize the evil & demonic nature of the aliens. Atlantis is quite real. It's last location in the time before this age of mankind was located at the southern tip of South America.
During the last pole shift, Norway for example was alogned east west... not
north south as it is now. The planet shifted and placed Atlantis 1,260 miles
south, and today this is known as Neuschwabenland.
ALL the evil on earth is done ( combined with good works) for people that are
possessed in the spirit, by these aliens, and these aliens are fallen angels !
All the highest levels of every secret agency & government on earth all know
about this ! The underground cities, will become the graves of the globalists that will have taken the mark and by earth quakes, be sealed up in these many underground cities never to rise again, as they have in the past.
They mingled their seed with that of mankind, to corrupt us that we could not return to heaven as the spirit being we are. To alter the DNA, which was why the planet was flooded, accept for 8 people.
These beings continued, and Greek mythology has examples of them, as also
the giants which Joshua made war with to cleans the promised land, given to all Israel and shall not be divided.
Now in these last days, the globalists use the vaccines, just as in 1918, to spread
plagues, so they can use the quantum dot nano chip to overtake a person, altertheir DNA, and have them within the hive mind, as this is the mark of the BEAST.
@BoobaDoo What new regime? There is only satan and his hosts and those that serve God !
All that are in the physical follow one or the other.This reminds me of that Robbin Williams
joke... Walking around the mall saying I've got a plan ! Ok uncle Joe, Oh but I've got a plan...
lets get you into the car now... You know, they just don't quite have his dosage right yet.
@42 jade Ten year veterans of military intelligence don't wear tin foil hats....
They don't have the education to even qualify for the millions spent in training.
While in service, a small group of them cause the masses to believe the lies
of globalists, Have you been trained in military intelligence? Do you have
access to a dozen PhD's in many fields? Do you have access to the many compartmentalized black ops programs ? Cray five quantum supercomputers?
Satellite data? Access to vast libraries from the time of Atlantis, to the vatican,
to global data bases? WELL I DON'T THINK SO.
Making insightful comments are useful. The audience will consider you learned,
unless you make foolish comments to show your ignorance. It's a dangerous
world out there, and a lot of people are harmed by their own ignorance. So until
you have studied yourself to be approved, I don't give a damm what you think,
because your apparently not even good at critical thinking, so instead engage
in useless nonsense !
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Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Conan, destined to bear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure! - Akiro
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The text sure do cut off at the exactly most climatic moment. Plato couldn't have chosen a more cliffhanger ending even if he tried
I rather think he *did* try.
Perhaps it was lost forever in the burning of the library of Alexandria? I can only imagine how much knowledge has been lost throughout history.
Excellent Narrator. well done. Thanks for the wonderful video.
I find this interesting and especially the comments from those who know history and historical information thank you.🙂🌍❤️
This is definetely where Tolkien found his inspiration to make Númenor in the Silmarillion/Lord of the Rings.
no shit
@Stan Czyk Source?
@Stan Czyk press X to doubt
@Stan Czyk Ah, I thought as much, but sadly I haven't read any of his letters my self. I know that he was a very very devout roman catholic and it show in his work. Earlier I found a lecture I saved for latter reading about the religious nature of his work and it had a quote from a letter of his to Father Robert Murray about The Lord of the Rings, "a fundamentally religious and Catholic work, unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision.". He was quite an interesting author, even converting an atheistic C. S. Lewis.
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Looked forward to this. Thanks man.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your time and beautiful reading
I so love your narration style. Well done.
myths and legend are at times based on truths
Based is a lose term.
Yet they are still fictional.
All myths and legends are based on truth.
No shit
Learn before speaking
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thank you, I've been looking for this info all night!
Awesome, very entertaining and insightful...
You're doing a great job.
Thanks pal!
I always enjoy these. Especially the one about Byzantium recently
Thanks! Glad to hear
Voices of the Past thank you!
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I adore the translation and varied use of descriptives Plato uses to color the picture of his history. It’s beautiful 🤩
Great video ! Well done !
A very good story telling, that needs more development at each family line.
Do I hear the makings of an HBO show?
So happy this channel is here. How many documentaries are you going to get something like this?
Hurrah! Thanks for watching
Fabulous, great information ! Knowing the truth is SO important! Thank you and for the dogmen information!!!
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I so love this. Thank you.
"The rest of the text has been lost."
Makes me wonder if Plato meant for his text to seem that way to tease future archaeologists.
They guy paying him died.
Absolutely! I've been researching this topic a lot especially as we see other cultural memories of cities turn out to be very real like Troy when it was discovered and pulled from fiction to historic. The main thing is to piece together the historic facts around this culture called atlantis , which we can presume is the greek name and likely not the original name of the culture. I hope one day I will complete my research to the extent that it will be able to justify an expedition to maurtania, south west algeria, and the regions where ancient water ways may have connected before the desertification of north africa.
@@mykulpierce a large part of ancient Alexandria is under water, look iy up maybe this is what you're looking for
@@mohamedkabha6861 Then thats exactly what i'm NOT looking for. Atlantis is described with destruction by flood but then became impassable by ships due to mud/shoal. Not sunk by water. That is a later interpretation by those cherry picking the story of atlantis from the modern era.
It's like the ancient equivalent of the TV trope where a line is cut off just as a character is about to reveal a mystery.
I love how it's ultimately a love story; an island built to keep his love safe, secure, and comfortable
Legend tells us one thing, history another, but sometimes we find something that belong to both.
When great documentation is destroyed (Library of Alexandria, or mateterials wilted away time) the tongue of the grandfather speaks to the grandchildren, and they their own. By the time these truths are documented again, by a Plato or whoever it may be, they are filled with the truths of the original stories and the little mixings, twists, alterations and such that have decorated the ornament of truth over time.
The aboriginal’s in Australia’s oral history goes on so far back, they refer to a time before the moon, which is extremely provocative…
Nice.. thank you for this information. I needed it.
The headline along with that thumbnail made my head explode with fascination.
The Sahara was a lot greener, a lot more recently than previously thought. The Eye Of the Sahara (The Richat Structure) is the only known place to fit *all of the criteria Plato lists. Red, black and white native stone. Concentric circles, washed out by the ocean at some point, it's roughly where Herodotus claimed Atlantis was, and it's due south of the Atlas mountains- the mountains to the North of Atlantis were supposedly named for the first king of that country.
Yep the eye is it earthquake caused it to sink and then rise later and water ran off. They have test the soil.it rich with sea salt. It has the right mountain and plain in the right place also has spring that make hot water and cold in the center do water running along a magma tunnel.
It's got the lead thus far, and if there was a tsunami, it could very well be the "eye 👀 f the Saharah", but the Atlantic Ridge still nags my thoughts, It could have been portions of these 2 plus Canary Islands, which also has several Atlantis markings.
We will find the truth in time, near time.
I agree with you.
Also diamonds were found laying on top of the ground all over n. Africa. So cutting stone...
There is imo a more convincing hypothesis that it's located in the Azores. The channel Apocalypse has a fantastic video essay series on it. Worth checking out
@@sonofabookkeeper8382
Ive seen it but the markers are different. Maybe the major country was Azores and a trade (capitol) was south of the Atlus mts with the concentric rings. The stadia measures correctly and theyve found fresh water wells in the richat structure. Now do you know how far that ridge is below the water line? Hehe
Always there for me when I need to do some learning. Thanks.
beautiful narrative and video...
22:59 nooooooo 😭 but anyway, thanks !! I've been waiting for this video for ages! Super well done! 👌😎
Thanks for watching!
This one is magnificent. We can hear two different narratives probably accidentally combined, like pages had been scribed then tossed into the air by a sudden breeze then reassembled out of sequence. The end is absolute Greek brilliance describing the genius of great government. The kings of the outlaying Atlantaen kingdoms gathering in the center of the caldera harbor of Atlantis for that cool ceremony. The majority of the rest are probably the pages describing what sounds like India. This one should receive an award.
I agree! Where are the sources for this? I want to read them so bad! I can see the brilliance in the opening line! Who wrote this! Please write a novel it's wonderful.
This is awesome!
Excellent. Thank you.
I waited a very long time for this, thank you!
Hurrah!
Thanks Plato! Very cool!
A very long wait to heae confusion and lies.
This video is away from the truth !
@@NOTTHASAME what are you talking about? Those ate Plato's words, and that's a fact.
You could make a really long trilogy of books out of this
Brilliant, everything makes absolute sense the truth is known thankyou for reciting this Will listen again 😀
TY great video, with my husband in Greece he has told me for years that some still pray to the old gods there.
Plato was retelling a legend that was told to Solon...Who was around 300 years prior!!!!!... About events over 9000 years before their time!!!
The detail Plato gives is amazing considering he is so far removed from the event!!!
@@humbug4478 What was 90 years? WHy are you making up arguements.. Egyptians didn't boast of knowing events that a living person could tell them.
I not saying they did hold records that long.. Point was that the gap between the 1st telling and re-telling and current times... is itself telling!!!
@@humbug4478 Solon.. was told a legend by an Egyptian priest.. It was not 90 years before his time.. He said to Solon they were 9000 years old.. How can he say we are 90 years old.. that is not old!!! So you still not make sense yet.
@@humbug4478 Where you live etc.. is none of my business.. so i not sceptical.. I not bothered if you live on the moon and eat green cheese all day :-)
@@humbug4478 and you can't count to 10.. very impressive!!!
@@humbug4478 i can see your dying to show off... oh go on then!!!
Dude was just meming some epic lore he'd come across and has driven historians and nutjobs mad ever since. Respect.
fantastic video
Fair and wondrous and in infinite abundance. Translator putting down some sick bars.
The most magical thing to me is the talk or Orichalcum. I know its just a brassy alloy, but metals had a magical quality to them in ancient days.
They're still pretty amazing when you consider all the energy and work that goes into it.
I hate how sentences from ancient writings tend to go on for ages upon ages without a single comma. Makes them infuriating to read. I'm honestly impressed at the narrator for pulling it off.
Not all languages use commas. This wasn't originally written in English
Best video ever seen on this channel
This is a brilliant video.
Thank you and Kind regards Peter Halliday
when facts / histories became myths because records are lost or it is forgotten by time.
Excellent vocal reading.!!!
Thank you so much for this post.!!!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent presentation. Well done.
Such an enormous story. I'll have to check your channel to see what else you can present this well.
I love this channel..
Love is a serious mental disease , Plato's top quote .
Plato carried a heavy heart full of the truth of man .
Lol love is mental disease? Hahahaha
Could you make a video about how Europeans and Japanese saw each other in the early Modern period? There are some fascinating accounts from the time
Very interesting, a key historical document.
The best video on youtube.
Listening to the description of Atlantis it sounds more like a description of the Greek aesthetic than of an actual place.
Plato seems to be telling us of his / their ideal homeland , a utopia of sorts.
The Minoans
It's his mind palace, oral culture.
Agree
Research the Richat Structure. Africa is that utopia. Or was.
Its the whole goal of an utopia
The Younger Dryas impact hypothesis or Clovis comet hypothesis
Yes! I just recently heard about this thanks to Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson 🤩
There are more details about this. For some reason a lot of people talk about the comet theory, but actually there is also the coronal mass ejection theory. Right now the exact cause is still unknown. It could be both, as they are compatible. But what is in agreement is that there is strong evidence from Greenland ice core dating, etc. that a sudden rise in temperature caused all kinds of havoc on Earth and probably wiped out a previous civilization. The fact that Plato's dating of Atlantis 11600 years ago conincides with the end of younger dryas is enough to raise eyebrows. vimeo.com/148164388
I strongly recommend Hancock's books 'fingerprints of the gods' and 'magicians of the gods'
@@abc-yg6tk but didnt Plato said that athenians waged war with them ,but athenians didnt exist 12000 years ago
@@sinisadabic5371 Could be proto-athenians, according to Randall Carlson th-cam.com/video/vay7dFCObE0/w-d-xo.html
I LOVE your speaking voice!!!
Thank you
In 1000 years they will be looking for hogwarts behind a pole at a railway station in the U.K.
Hundreds of archaeologists die attempting to run through wall at various speeds with disastrous results.
No not the same
You know how many hidden civilizations have been found? Idk why people are so against something like this existing when reality is stranger then fiction
@@macmacgkc1st it's literally the same. they'd be interpreting a work of fiction as an historical account
GoombaGenocide Harry Potter is a story about wizards hero villain cliche whereas Plato wrote a story to convey his ideals on the danger of overly hubris nation and his ideal republic.And he said it was word to mouth but who knows
The Canary Islands is at the spot where Plato said Atlantis was. When the Spaniards went to the Islands the inhabitants said they thought they were the only survivors of a huge disaster which sounds to me like a Tsunami. I'm of the opinion that Ancient Greeks and other seagoing people got this story from these people and the tale grew with the telling.
wrong.
wrong.
your all wrong.
well.. mostly.
please do your research accurately so that you can be.. CORRECT in the future.
(no disrespect but let's keep our assumptions down to pure research)
Plato's story came from one of his predecessors. they.. having traveled to Egypt.. got the story from the Egyptian priests. who made the claim of an ancient empire 9000 years prior to this time.
"THIS" time.
9000 years prior to.. a century before Plato maybe two?
that takes us back to the end of the last ice age.
the time is important because it goes back to a prior time of a long-forgotten epoch. this is of course.. In comprehendible for people fooled by the timeline of the flood and all Biblical timelines all together.
the temples at Gobekli Tepe prove this. emphatically. and absolutely destroy the timeline of 4004 BCE being the age of Adam and Eve. it is true they may have been hunter gatherers. but it is false that they go back only 4004 BCE.
people forget that Adam lived as much as 930 years. all the old patriarchs lived for 10 times. the normal lifespan. skewing what we assume is a generation. a generation at that point may have been a century if not several.
this makes any timeline tied to the biblical Genesis completely irrelevant. sure you could follow Adams genealogy. but, Adam didn't exactly live 120 years. even if science tries to assume that he did.
educated guess? More like educated assumptions.
hardly. people are jumping the gun. giza was only found what in the 1800's?
there's still more buried underneath. their saying more possibly 90% more of the plateau. after more than a century? Proof that we still know nothing.
the problem is people don't READ correctly.
and assume the world map looked exactly the same in those days and 9000 years prior as it does today.
when there is geological proof that the continents themselves and the oceans shifted up and down throughout the Millennia.
esPECIALLY at the end of the last ice age. a potential cataclysm may have also caused a Shifting of continents and the sea levels.
perhaps multiple cataclysms.
while scientists believe the Santorini volcano may be behind the Atlantis myth.
the time line I'm afraid does not fit.
why is it so hard to believe that it is exactly as Plato stated. WHERE he stated it was. because there's nothing in the Atlantic?
raise the sea levels flood parts of Africa. and all the sudden it becomes part of the Atlantic. beyond the pillars of Hercules? uh yeah.
you just have to picture what it would have looked like 9,000 years prior to when the story was first passed down.
in fact recently a very interesting site was observed in the area of Mauritania.
known locally as the eye of Africa. the site fits the EXACT dimensions of Plato's Atlantis.
and may be the Smoking Gun that people are looking for.
as I stated before the problem is the geology. if the geology and geography can be matched to Plato's exact descriptions. the mystery will be solved. it may not be the Canary Islands but that is interesting. interesting fact that the survivors may just HAVE escaped to the Canary Islands. with it possibly the only place nearby to take refuge.
...it's still the dawn of the next big find. Atlantis is still out there. we may just find in this lifetime
Oooh, interesting.
@@otherhalf228 Graham theory here. The evidence is indeed very probable.
I've spent some time on Google Earth - you can see a giant 'flood' moved through the ENTIRE region where all known recordings of the Great Flood took place.
You can see the Riochat Eye in Mauritania, and if you used Google Earth (not maps) you can see this place is elevated. There is a point on a ridge that I set the marker down on, and I imagined seeing below and to the horizon flood waters.
Please go look, explore the sands - the desert was made because of the flood waters. YOU CAN SEE IT, it's right there
moosesnWoop123 I’ve never heard about this theory, after looking at google earth it is quit interesting 👍🏻
Totally agree with your idea's, you must have been researching this for a while now?
Fascinating
Very nicely read ...
Its seems like the only person who is really on the money with the Atlantis topic is Randall Carlson over at his podcast GeoCosmic REX channel/Kosmographia.He seems to be using a scientific approach alongside the original Plato dialogue, using scientific and geological data gathered in the early 1970's and earlier showing the facts that a group of islands just next to the Azores (exactly where Plato describes) which are now sunken seamounts were once ancient islands above sea level thousands of years ago matching up to the timeline of Plato's Atlantis story. The names of the seamounts are the Plato seamount,great meteor seamount and aptly named Atlantis seamount, and what is most startling is the fact that although the tops of these mountains have been sheered of over time they would have once pointed up ward looking just like Neptunes trident.After reading Timaeus and Critias a number of times and sticking exactly to the original Plato story the Azores region is the only most logical region for this sunken island.So its seems the story is thus-12'900 or 11'600 (someone will correct it) a great meteor(as described in the Plato story)( There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Paethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.) or whatever caused the rapid melting of the ice caps over North America and Europe.Due to the Gulf stream being a lot lower thousands of years ago the Azores was a warm region of islands well above sea levels, the onset of rising waters led them to attack(out of fear for survival) Europe and Greece (as in Plato) not long after the failed attack on Greece the isostatic rebound from all that crushing ice melting into the sea caused a massive earthquake along the Mid Atlantic ridge/tectonic plate causing the islands of Atlas/Atlantis to subside to a very great depth under the sea causing (as in the Plato story) a shoal of mud to make shipping in the Atlantic - un Navigable(But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune (25d) all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.Any ships sailing out of the Mediterranian through the straits of herecles(Gibralter) would find the sea impassable for many years.The story of Atlantis became a myth so ancient and forgotten but we now know today using geology and science matched up with traditional story telling that the history of earth is the history of cataclysm.
Let's not forget the work of Journalist Graham Hancock whose story telling interprets the great work of Randall Carlson in his books
@@perennialphilosophaster4328 yes obviously, i didn't think i needed to mention him as well alongside all the others who are doing impressive research.
Interesting, seems the Long island aquarium agrees with you. Most my family came from the Azores.
First mention of Atlantis may be the mention in the Egyptian Book of the Dead which is far older than Plato.
And which was used as religious artifact for the mummification of dead.
So a story about a Atlantis would be in a religious guide book for the dead? Make it make sense 😅
@@annas4843 the book of the dead has nothing to do with mummification
Really.. links to prove that please.
Incredible
Bravisimo!
Damn that was good, any plans for the Epic of Gilgamesh? Dry read I know but if anyone can make it good its you.
Plot twist: there was no further text.
Plato in the afterlife: *HA, gotteem!*
Cliffhanger ending ... loved it though, thank you :)
Thank you.
"Atlantis lol"
Plato, 360 AD
Kako si
9500 bc ....
Cyrilic alphat 750 AD. When rome was establised you jumped from tree to tree to find your food let alone the greeks agyptians and the rest civilizations
Doggerland who was submerged by the storeggen slide events and rising sea levels at that time fits the descriptions the best imo.
That was i believe 10,000 years ago.
These sort of contemporary mythical descriptions feel like the equivalent of fantasy literature of the ancient world. Idyllic landscapes filled with noble and radiant people and their achievements, great cities of splendour and mythical legends filled with fantastic beings, gods and impossible events.
People seem to have always longed for such fantastical worlds of fiction.
dude, this is cool
0:52 What is the source of this map? I am creating a detailed map over the dried up lakes, river systems and islands of the Sahara based on elevation data and sand/salt deposits and distribution of oasis and fresh/salt water sources. This is exactly the outline I am drawing of an area in Mauritania that includes the Richat but in land mass is about the size of Greenland,....I mean EXACTLY. Even the bays and the rivers are in the right place.
Wow. Do you have a link to what your work?
I would love to see the finished project
@@vernaduncan2018 I will finish it one day and hope to visit the region, but right now we have a much bigger issue that requires my attention. Global revolution now!
@@zNathaniel Yeah, youtube is assho. They don't allow links. :(
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@@Willy_Tepes Right, I feel you on that one.
Do hyperborea and Tartary next!
After Atlantis fell it’s people migrated all over the world, some even went to Antarctica, Hyperboreans are the Antarctic descendants of Atlantis
@@shangzzz what R you talking about?? Hyperboreans supersede Atlanteans by 100s of millions of years. They came even before Lemurians.. What connection are u trying to make???
@@konohatvnetwork exactly, Hyperborea is cromagnon era
very good
I was watching yesterday (Sep. 13, 2020) international teleconference about Atlantice. It was about 6.5 hours! Totally awesome! That's the name of the conference on TH-cam: The unknown history of Atlantis: secrets and cause of destruction. Kaleidoscope of Facts. Episode 2. Highly recommended for everyone interested in Atlantice.
“the rest pf the text has been lost” *indiana jones theme plays as I begin the search*
Undoctrinated that’s a rather mean response for a joke.
Undoctrinated Save some pussy for the rest of us genius
Interestingly, Plato is alluding to the Atlanteans causing their own demise...
He's not eluding , you're assuming !
@Die Cast Racing with Von
Theres far to much fiction, just story's, very little fact.
Tolkien has his "Atlantis", Numenor, destroyed for that reason, and he was doubtless very familiar with Plato.
they did take themselves out with their crystal technology.
@@gavinpeters5418 Haven't thought about that movie for years! Saw it when I was a kid with The Colossus of Rhodes at a matinee.
This guy has definitely some writing qualities. He should become an author or maybe even a philosopher
You should make music.
From my understanding his mention of elephants is interesting for it is know that dwarf elephants did exist in Sicily once during the ice age. Perhaps some now extinct island did host these elephants into antiquity until it was swallowed by the sea.
There is a one legged gull at the 12:03 mark. I wonder how common this is. But anyway, loved the video.
Glad I found this comment 😂😂😂
Very
They stand on one leg and pull the other up into their fluff. I think they do it to keep warm as they all do it on cold days. 😎
i was looking for alexander mcqueen’s show but i guess learning something new is not going to hurt me
The most confusing part of Plato's writing is at 14:43, where he suddenly switches topic and starts talking about how to make a website for your business...
Finally the source of the story and not some bullshit that some other channels upload