Who Is This NBA Team's GOAT & Their Most Talented Player?
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- NBA Team GOATs vs Most Talented Players!
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AI was the correct choice for most talented 76er. ALSO an MVP and took them to the finals and won a game against the 3-peat Lakers
Won a game 😂😂😂😂
Moses did the same but actually got them a chip
It’s easily Wilt in my opinion. Won 3 straight MVPs averaging 27-24-7 across those seasons. Won a championship over the Bill Russell led Celtics to break their 8 year winning streak. 👍
@@Spray-n-pray821but AI shifty
@@maherkamer8872 probably the most shifty playmaker and ball handler ever
As a Spurs fan, Tim is the clear GOAT, but I'm fine jumping off the cliff and say that Wemby is most definitely the most talented player we've had.
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Wemby is already the goat of San Antonio
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As a Sixers fan, how the hell do you not even mention Wilt? He’s greater than every player you guys mentioned except MAYBE Erving. Even with the era difference, Wilt was just supremely talented and has to be recognized.
Moses Malone was the team goat imo
I think they forgot Wilt was on the sixers. I personally had to double check to make sure I wasnt bugging 😂
@@HankAder Wilt definitely accomplished more with the 76ers than Moses. 3 straight MVPs and a championship/FMVP vs 1 MVP and a championship/FMVP. Wilt and that 76ers team were the only team that beat a healthy Bill Russell Celtics.
I'd argue Erving is over Malone as well for team GOAT considering he was a big part of their championship with Malone, was there much longer, got an MVP of his own and lead the 76ers to two Finals and two ECFs before Malone was even there. Remember Malone joined Erving and the 76ers when they were already perennial contenders.
wasn’t wilt a sixer for like 3 years?
@@adityakanak5808 3.5 years. But he did win 3 straight MVPs and a championship and FMVP there. Wilt lead the '67 team which is one of the best teams of all time where they went 68-13 and gentlemen swept the Bill Russ Celtics (only team to ever beat them when healthy).
Celtics:
Most Talented: Larry Bird
G.O.A.T: Bill Russell
Spurs:
Most Talented: Tim Duncan
G.O.A.T: Tim Duncan
Magic:
Most Talented: Shaquille O'Neal
G.O.A.T: Dwight Howard
76ers:
Most Talented: Joel Embiid
G.O.A.T: Julius Erving
Nets:
Most Talented: Kevin Durant
G.O.A.T: Jason Kidd
Pistons:
Most Talented: Isiah Thomas
G.O.A.T: Isiah Thomas
Bulls:
Most Talented: Micheal Jordan
G.O.A.T: Micheal Jordan
Allen is more talented then embiid
Wilt Chamberlain is more talented then both of them
@@SportsGurr no he isn’t he was scoring against plumbers he was only really athletic
Not really
Grant Hill the most talented player the pistons ever has
Was scanning the comments for this
Kinda, but short lived
Can argue that DRose was the bull's most talented player if we exclude MJ.
The Pepe Sanchez snub for Philly was wild
Fr bro, Pepe Sanchez and his half a point just does something to me 🔥🔥🔥
T Mac for Orlando
nah bro, Shaq is a sumo wrestler with freak athleticism. Can't top that, literally the most dominant ever. He would still have the FMVPs over Prime Kobe, MJ, Bron.
@@Esteban-R2 I dig that but Kobe gave mcgrady his flowers already
I'm surprised that Tmac wasn't mentioned as a possibility
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Jason Kidd's 4 starting teammates had a combined 1 all star appearance and he took them to the finals twice. KD had several superstars in their prime with support and he couldn't get out the second round.
No one talking about a big toe, he shouldn't have even been in that situation to begin with.
Celtics: GREATEST: Bill Russell: MOST TALENTED: LARRY BIRD
Spurs: Greatest: Tim Duncan: Most Talented: Victor Wembanyama
Magic: Shaquille O’Neal: Most Talented: (for this one I can see either Prime Tmac or Prime Penny or Even PRIME Dwight Howard
76ers: Greatest: Wilt Chamberlain: Most Talented: AI
Nets: Greatest: Jason Kidd: Most Talented: Drazen Petrovic
Bulls: Greatest: MJ: Most Talented: MJ
I'd say D Rose most talented
Drazen was good I’ll give you that but definitely not more talented than KD 😭
So dr j prime was not with the nets
Why tf you put drazen there?
@@GgFf-gm4yo I mean he technically didn’t play for them in the NBA It was in the ABA But if he still counts as an all time nets player I definitely see my re doing this and putting dr J Up there.
Wemby for sure is the biggest talent his celling is the highest of any player ever NBA history.
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How you guys gonna put luka and dirk on the thumbnail and then not talk about the mavs in the video lol
The Jason Kidd disrespect is crazy. The man took those average ass Nets teams to back to back finals. His numbers isn’t draw dropping but he was a true PG who set his teammates up like crazy. Controlled the pace of the game. One of the smartest player ever.
Yall better talk about Tatums passing cause it was amazing game 1
Embiid over Iverson for talent is the craziest take ever on this channel
Your right but iverson wasn’t all that,he had horrible efficiency and was one of the worst defenders ever in the league,he did deserve that mvp tho
You guys gotta do all 30 teams, its hella cheap you only do a handful of teams
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Most talented player for the 76ers il Wilt Chamberlin. How did you forget about him
We forgot about dr j guys 😭
At 21-22, MJ was the College Player of the year and a very strong rookie of the year (top 5-10 rookie year of all time)
At 21-22 DRose was the greatest player in the world
This is also your reminder that Jason Kidd STOLE 1/2 of Hill's ROY
DRose was not the best player in the world lol. He won MVP largely because the Bulls had a better regular season and had the narrative going for him but LeBron was obviously a better player and had the narrative against him as well as severe voter fatigue (the man almost won 5 straight MVPs) Howard, Kobe and KD were all arguably better players as well. Rose melted down in the ECF that year.
Jordan and LeBron are probably the most talented players of all time. Not just the greatest.
D-Rose won it at 22-23 which is when MJ had an injury that forced him to sit almost the entire season.
Iverson snub is crazy
Revisionist history on the KD nets toe thing. He was not one toe away from making the finals. He was a toe away from the semi-finals.
And he still had a whole overtime and went 0-6 from the field. Sick how they straight lie
Pre-Injury Grant Hill is an easy clear for most talented Piston
Man I miss the glorious beard Dirk had in 2013 along with Vince and the boys
Derrick rosd should be mentioned atleast for the most talented bull. He won the youngest mvp
Rookie Jordan was the same age as MVP Rose and was arguably better. 28-7-6 with 2.5 steals on 59% TS vs 25-4-8 with 1 steal on 55% TS
@@drago2689rookie jordan was younger than MVP rose.
It hurts to say anything contrarian to Moses Malone, but Wilt should’ve been in the discussion, or picked over Moses for the 76ers.
Dražen Petrovic 🇭🇷 most talented for nets
I'm from croatia brother but it's KD by a mile
White people 😂😂😂
Caruso snubbed for the bulls smh
Yo, saying KD was more talented than Kidd when JKidd got a team of Kittles, Van Horn, Martin and Collins to an NBA finals is malpractice. Talking about Philly and mentioning Mr SAWFT Embiid when Wilt would have beaten him one handed is worse.
Do better.
Y’all do know Dr. J played for the Nets
TMac and Penny should be in the convo for most talented
"Bill russell has 11 rings" no, the team that russell played with had 11 rings😂
TMac for the magic and Grant Hill for the Pistons both for most talented? It should be mentioned at least
For now I think manu is the most talented in spurs history, he could hold it down defensive, and can handle the rock and score pretty efficiently. Also smacked a bat out of mid-air which is a sign of talent if u ask me 😂😂😂
Greatest is kg/most talented is ant for Minnesota
Its definitely KG for both as of right now. KG is arguably the most talented PF of all time. He lead the Twolves in all 5 major stats, had post game, had great handles for a PF, could face up and shoot the midrange, could legit defend 1-5.
In the spurs conversation this will age really well or really bad for Don
Talent wise Tmac is the next most talented for the magic behind shaq. For greatest though it probably is Dwight
So Pistons, but no mention of Grant Hill as talented.... Supreme basketball knowledge
As soon as it was a debate about AI I knew to click off immediately seen enough 😂
Why? Embiid just had the highest scoring per 100 possessions MVP season in the history of the NBA. He cans score from anywhere, is a great defensive playerr, is a great rebounder, has a great handle for a big, and is a decent passer for a big.
Wilt was a 7 ft freak of nature. Bench press like 400+ lbs, vertical jump 40+ inches, as fast as Iverson with just as much stamina, one of the greatest scorers of all time, one of the greatest rebounders of all time, one of the best passing bigs of all time, one of the most dominant players of all time, one of the best defensive players of all time, etc.
Iverson had some of the best handles ever but also was the most inefficient high volume scorer in the history of the league.
@@drago2689 all that “talent” and still hasn’t done anything
@@kilxjxnes8841 except for an MVP, 2 scoring titles, 7x AS, 5x All NBA, 3x All Def...
Besides talent isn't about accomplishments that is greatest which is the other side of this convo. But I do think it's funny because, what did Iverson ever accomplish with his talent that Embiid didn't? A single finals appearance? If you erase that year Iversons legacy takes the biggest hit of any legend. No other legend hinges their entire legacy on a single season like Iverson. In 14 years he missed the playoffs 6x, lost in the 1st round 4x, lost in the 2nd 3x, and only has that one ECF/Finals appearance. His single ECF is tainted by historically controversial officiating and all time terrible efficiency by Iverson.
Also Wilt was more talented and accomplished more with the 76ers in 3.5 years than Iverson did in like 11.
@@kilxjxnes8841bro got shut down 😭🙏
There is no way they haven't said Tmac for most talented
Joel, and Dr.J over wilt chaimberlen is crazy
No love for Dave Bing?
pistons: no grant hill for talented?
Moses Malone for team GOAT on Sixers???
Every team Kyrie has been on has no one else for most talented he should have been said all four times
Most talented on the pistons is by far Rodman
Rodman had little to no offensive game. Isiah Thomas is one of the most talented PGs ever and Grant Hill was like a LeBron prototype.
Penny for Orlando
I’m surprised when Detroit Pistons game they didn’t say the most talented player was Ben Wallace
He had basically no offensive game though.
Vince was definitely more talented for the nets than Durant
Vince never even made All NBA on the Nets. KD was averaging like 30-7-6 on 50-40-90 shooting. He's easily more talented than Vince.
I'd say Kidd and Erving (if we count ABA) maybe even Petrovic Buck Williams were more talented than Nets Vince as well.
As a sixer how can you forget AI
How did they forget AI? They literally were saying Embiid vs AI for talent. In terms of team GOAT it's definitely between Wilt, Erving and Malone as they all won championships and MVPs with the 76ers.
Grant Hill was the most talented Piston.
iverson more skilled than embiid
He’s not better. Embid is a better scorer, rebounder, passer(relative to position), better shooter, better finisher, way better defender. He was literally averaging 35/11/6 with 2blks and over a steal on 54/39/88 splits before he got hurt, still finished the season coming back from injury averaging slight worse numbers.
Moses Malone is clearly the most talented player. Dude would of feasted in todays game
Allen iverson for 76ers
Wilt the most talented for the Sixers
Grant hill might be the most talented for the pistons
ai for sixers com on
Kyrie is the most talented in Boston for sure
Dr J. Nets Goat
If you count ABA then yes. He never played for the Nets in the NBA though.
@@drago2689 the aba was just as competitive as the nba was at that time, and after the merger both are just as much a part of modern nba history as the other. Also, the Nets did Dr J. throwback jerseys not too long ago
@@zstrikerlol meh thats not really true. The top tier talent in the NBA and ABA was about equal at the time but the average players and lower tier players were noticeable worse. That's why when the merger happened only the top tier ABA guys were able to really transition over. And ABA history is usually not counted in career totals, accolades, championships, etc.
If you do count them they of course Dr. J is the Nets GOAT with 3 MVPs, 2 rings, amd 2 FMVPs (playoff MVP in the ABA)
@@drago2689 fair enough
76ers G.O.A.T. Julius Erving. Most talented AI.
Ngl Russel carries the Celtics reputation so hard 11 rings without him they only got 6 without him Kobe and Magic combined have more 💀😂
Eh not really though. If you exclude the Bill Russ years the Celtics would still have the 3rd most championships behind only the Warriors and Lakers. Jordan and Duncan carry the Bulls/Spurs way more as they'd literally have 0 if you exclude them.
Most Talented??? So Kyrie plays baseball or what?💀
You think Kyrie is more talented than KD? KD does what Kyrie does but is near 7 feet tall. He has guard like handles, similar playmaking ability, much better defender, a better overall offensive player, a better rebounder, etc. In what why is Kyrie more talented? Maybe like handling and finishing? And even then those gaps aren't that huge because KD is still talented at that stuff himself.
Uhh TMac?
Alex Caruso for Chicago
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Tmac is the most talented player for Orlando
Nah the clickbait is crazy
Bulls. Jordan. Team Goat. Pippen. Most talented.
Pippen was great but Jordan could do pretty much anything Pippen could do. While Pippen wasn't anywhere near some of the stuff Jordan could do. Jordan averaged 33-8-8 with 3 steals in '89. Pippens career BEST is basically worse or the same in each of those categories...
Allen Iverson 76ers goat
For what? 1 MVP and Finals appearance?
Erving has an MVP, championship, 4 Finals appearances, and 3 ECF appearances. Wilt has 3 MVPs, a championship and a FMVP. Malone has a MVP and FMVP.
this mf forgot about kai being the most talented player in the nba
"Guys, I'm sorry" said everything lol😂
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If you’re talking talent I might say Penny was a greater talent than Shaq at Magic, maybe.
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Nah birds our goat and most talented
11 championships and 5 MVP vs 3 championships and 3 MVPs. Bird also only got 2 FMVPs. Bill Russ probably would've gotten nearly all 11 FMVP had it existed when he played and he'd probably have the most DPOYs of any player ever as well. The only reason Russ doesn't have 12 championships is because he got hurt. And as soon as he retired the Celtics didn't win again until they got another MVP center and all star guard.
Bird had more overall talent but Bill Russ accomplished much more
@@drago2689 and? Bird better
@@JansMarinara greatest = accomplishments/legacy + skill.
Talented = Just skill
Therefore Bill Russ greater, Bird more talent
@@drago2689 yeah nah ask 90% of Celtics fan who the greatest is they'll say bird, greatest resume doesn't equal greatest, bird is the Celtics goat
@@JansMarinara that's definitely not true lol. Bill Russ straight up got his number retired across the entire league. And having a great resume is the primary thing to get you GOAT status wdym? If you have no accomplishments you get no where no the ranking.
Ummmm 76ers! Allen muthafreaking Iverson is the most talented!!!! That was SUPER DISRESPECTFUL!!!!! Embiid never been to the finals. What AI did in 2001 like I’m legit upset at y’all. I expect better. Feel like Kenny would’ve set y’all straight lol!!!!
AI is one of the most overrated players ever. No other all time great in history has their entire legacy hinge on a single season like Iverson. If you erase that year he'd literally would only have some of the most inefficient scoring titles of all time, 6 missed playoffs, 4 1st round exits and 2 2nd round exits, no conference finals, no finals, no championships to his name.
The 2001 ECF also had some of the most questionable officiating in the history of the NBA and Iverson in that series averaged like 34% from field and 33% from 3. That's atrocious. And the myth that he carried the 76ers is nothing but a myth. The 76ers had an historically good defense because of everyone outside of Iverson. They had the DPOY, rebounding leader and probably the 2nd best center in the league outside Shaq at the time in Mutombo. They had the 6th man of the year. They had a legendary head coach who was the COTY. Even when he got paired with a good Nuggets team with Melo they significantly underachieved given how great he supposedly was and when they swapped him for Billups the Nuggets immediately became contenders and went to the WCF.
Like I said no other player hinges their entire legacy on a single season and it wasn't even like anything about that season was particularly impressive individually on a historic level like people seem to claim. Iverson was great but his single MVP year and style/aesthetic/culture influence prop up his actual basketball career way more than it should.
@@drago2689 wow that was a lot lol. I completely understand where you’re coming from. But AI was also rookie of the year (go look up who all was in his draft btw) him and melo were too ball dominant couldn’t work out. (Imagine luka and edwards together), and AI won multiple scoring titles at 6’0 listed height without shooting from 3 a bunch In a league where every other superstar was at least 6’5. His efficiency numbers are because he was THE SCORER on the team. They needed a bucket it was him and only him…again…at 6’0. Yes his efficiency was low but think about how many shots he was taking and who he had to take those shots over. To say he is overrated is where your response becomes watered down and disrespectful. I respect you not agreeing AI was the GOAT of the 76ers but he was definitely the most talented! Talent isn’t off of numbers, it’s off what you see in front of you. Anyone you name from the 76ers as more TALENTED honestly doesn’t compare.
@@msgentertainment2478 if you wanna say talented he might be in the convo but definitely not team GOAT which is what most of what I was saying was about. But even then Embiid and Chamberlain are up there and debatable more talented. Embiid is a 7 footer who can score from anywhere, is a great rebounder, great handle for a big, great defender and even a pretty decent passer.
Wilt was literally a 7'1 280lbs freak of nature. We're talking about a guy who was as fast as Iverson with just as much stamina. A guy who could high jump over 6'6" with a 40+ inch vertical. A guy with a sub 50s 400m on the track. A guy with a 400+ pound bench press. And all that at 7 feet tall is absurd. He's one of the greatest scorers of all time, one for the greatest rebounder of all time, one of the greatest defensive players of all time, one of the best passing bigs of all time, one of the most dominant players of all time. The dude was on the national radar as a junior in high school before basketball and it's supporting infrastructure to find and recruit players was even around. He was literally a globe trotter for a year. Dude was the ultimate talent.
@@drago2689 I respect those opinions! Wilt WAS a freak of nature for sure!!! Though He still would’ve been dominant for sure, basketball didn’t have the athletes that are present now. But agreed. Wilt was a freak. My problem with embiid is yes he has won the mvp but hasn’t made it anywhere in the playoffs AND can’t stay healthy.
Why are these guys overreacting to some of these most talented pics you can be more talented than somebody and not be better than that person
For example kyrie and curry
Curry is more talented stop it.
@@teacup2686absolutely not,kyrie is the best ball handler oat and is pound for pound the greatest finisher for his size in nba history,he’s gonna get his second 50/40/90 season.He has better body control than curry,is a better playmaker too.
@@jynx464Curry is most efficient high volume scorer in NBA history. He's by far the best overall shooter. Best 3pt shooter, one of the best and most underrated midrange shooter, and the best FT shooter of all time. He's probably a top 5 ball handler oat. He's one of the best finishers at PG position as well. He's also a better passer/playmaker than Kyrie. His shooting talent alone creates plays for others because of the gravity he commands (basically indirect assists). Speaking of which Curry is at or near the top of the league every year in secondary assists which are passes that directly lead to assists. There's honestly not much that Kyrie is better at and the things he is better at he isn't all that much better at anyway.
I agree you can be more talented without being better but Curry is up there as one of the most talented players ever himself.
don is right about wemby
Tatum and brown wash bird, wemby absolutely clears tim duncan!
Tatum and Brown combine are less talented.
@@lalamido2323Tatum deffo better
D Rose is more talented than MJ.
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