@@mrt6349 ye it bugs me how people look at video like this which are influenced both by microphone quality and their own output quality which mean it's completly meaningless.
the snare drums don't sound right with them. None of the air and dryness gets out, and the snare "room sound" isn't there compared to the other two. Also, the Martin Logans have very realistic vocals, much better than the other two. The Sonus Faber sound like very nice speakers, but the other two sound more live altogether. The Magnepans do have a speaker sound, coloration, but it's very pleasant.
@@ologylabs2374 I agree with everything you’ve listed above. I must say though. After listening to these in person next to a Bowers and Wilkins system nothing sounds quite like the diamond series from Bowers and Wilkins!
I have never heard any of these speakers in real life, but to me in this video it's clearly: Martin Logan > Sonus Faber > Magnepan. That last one probably really needs one or two subs to support it, but even then still it sounds as flat as its building dimensions are.
Incredible, three speakers with completely different sound, but at the same time beautiful, each in their own way. I am stunned. I love them all. PS: the quality of your recording is astounding. Your musical choice too.
Amazing video, thanks for your time and efforts put into creating this seamless comparison. I thought the Martin Logan had the most detail and transparency of the three with enough bass. The Sonus sound was thin and lacked definition to my ears. The Maggies were second best, had lots of air but the bass was thin and the mids were little muffled as others commented. Of course you have to be there in person to really evaluate the speaker sounds. Thanks again and I look forward to your future videos.
I love the big, open sound of the Maggies, especially the non-restrictive lower registers:) I wouldn’t be averse to using a little eq if I felt the need to:)
Magnepan has the most neutral open sound; 2nd is Martin Logan but its vocals sound a little "muffled" compared to the Magnepans. Sonus Faber rank 3rd IMO, having a more uptrending tonal balance (which upon first listen can be appealing but wears over time). Well done demo!
Agreed. I think the bass is possibly the most tuneful on the Martin Logan’s. Vocals were more muffled for sure but also a bit more focused at the same time. Snare sounded a little choked and buried on the ML too
Probably the best comparison I have heard on TH-cam, pretty effective considering it is coming through low end computer speakers with all sorts of degradation. Oh by the way the Logans win by a margin
Interesting listening to them in succession. Magnepan has more open sound. Martin Logan's have a more controlled sound. Sonus Faber sound like a small box radio compared to the others. I'd go with Magnepan's paired with subs and use crossovers with an EQ to balance highs/mids with Magnepan and lows with subs. Great video and thanks for sharing!
This was a lot of fun, I listened with my Infinity Gammas and I rate them this way, Sonus-last, Magnepan-second and the Martin Logan the clear winner. Also appreciate the way you did this, no BS and let the sound do the talking.
Had both maggies and MLs in my living room. Maggies require distance from sidewalls and have a very narrow sweet spot. When ideally placed they produce a massive soundstage...as long as your head is in a vice. MLs have a more conventional soundstage and need less room, but they are more revealing and detailed. Ive found a significant difference in sonic quality between the entry level LRS and higher end maggies.
This is by far the best comparison video I’ve ever seen, and the effort involved to produce the final seamless version must have been considerable. Draw your own conclusions about which sound you prefer, but for what it’s worth, I’ve used MLs for years, but have changed to Maggies. What this video can’t convey is the height and depth of the soundstage Maggies produce. Also, MLs are every bit as tricky to place to get sounding right as the Maggies, and have a much smaller listening sweet spot. No negative comments please, I’m only trying to help!
Good job of level matching and synchronization. Listening with Sennheiser HD800S, the differences are striking. I suspect that if the Magnepans were set up properly that I would choose them based on this video.
I don't know much about these speakers. But I loved the tonality of the Martin Logans; the voices, instruments and dynamic's sound amazing. Although they might have a boost in the mid range. The Magnepans sound like they have a boost in the high range. The Sonus sound the most neutral, but also the most boring. Thank you for your effort!
OMG! Perhaps the best comparison I´ve experienced on YT! Thank you for all your great effort you put into this video - very technical correct! It was very very fun and interesting to listen and compare these speakers. I want more of this!!! I cannot decide which is best - Maggie or ML? It comes down what kind of music you are listening to. My 5 cents about these contenders. Maggie+ Live, natural sound, large sound stage, airy, you do not miss a note! Maggie-: Little thin on mid bass. I thought this was without a sub! ML+ Thick/full sound, natural voice/choir, great low extension with slam/dynamics, airy and quite natural. ML- Not much... Not as open sounding as Maggie & less live with smaller sound stage, but overall a great performer. SF+ ??? SF- Must have better room acoustics (little harsh). Where did midrange and bass notes went? ML does really really well in this competition and is the over all winner as it sound descent on all tracks, but Maggie on second song. A tough one! It is easy to hear that dynamic speakers that SF need a room with better room acoustics as they sound hollow and harsh. Electrostats or ribbon design does not spread sound half as much and becomes much easier to tame in normal rooms, IMO. You must pay attention to front wall distance (bass performance), toe in and perhaps add some bass traps and tame the back wave with soft or diffusion materials then you are good to go :) Regards
I've listened to this video several times. The Sonus Faber are clear my favourites. Depth and soundstage and of course my musical ear. The other two sound light.
Spot on. Was hoping to finally find this comment. Been puzzled by most comments ignoring the SF and gushing over the dull and constricted sounding ML. With the SF the speakers disappear and the room becomes the "soundstage". Also that *is* what a snare and hi hat sound like. The other two are what recordings of a snare and hi hat sound like.
Not gonna talk about which is best. I know the acoustic differences are also due to different positions /environments but I think this i the best video presentation I have seen/listen to. This type of experiments is something that takes time and effort. Thank You.
Приветствую, Канал! Sonus Faber, кристально чистый звук. Лучшее сочетание красоты баланса и звука, на мой взгляд. Продажи говорят больше за Sonus Faber. Всем приятного прослушивания любимых композиций. С благодарностью, Вячеслав.
All are great! I think the most dynamic are the sonus fiber by my ear, I love the magnepans cus of the direct sound. The Logans, I think have to heavy base and swollows the other frequiencies. Thanks for showing me these three marvels!
Cool video. Pretty accurate to live experience with the ML's and the Magnepans. The ML's voice reproduction is more pronounced but has that muffled-ness, as if the mylar is too tight. The Magnepan's visceral affect, the ability to disappear, doesn't show in the video. Cool video of these speakers.
Have been interested in Martin Logan for some time and pulled the trigger and bought the entry level ESLs in part due to this comparison. I listened to this comparison using Sony MDR 7506 headphones. My MLs sound remarkably like this recording. To my ears, the MLs sounds like the original recordings. The other two sound like recordings of speakers in a room. I do agree the Mags have a more open airy sound on this recording, but the MLs just sound like the performers are there up close. To my ears, the Sonus just sound like average speakers. I guess everyone has their own taste. Thanks for making this recording - it is very well done.
Listened again after 2 months and I have to say this itme around the Magnepans seem to have the most natural open sound! I listened previously on my headphones and thiis time round I am listening on my speakers. It just goes to show how important it is to audition equipment in person and to be aware of the limitations of asessing equipmnent on your own system from a TH-cam recording! No! after listening again it's definately the Martin Logan's for me - they sound has the natural mid-range of the Magnepans but are more dynamic and engaging. The fuller bass is also welcome!
@@BartholomewSmutz There is absolutely nothing better in ML sound compared to Maggies. MLs sound artificial asf in comparison. Timbre of Sonus is way off compared to above two tho.
This is absolutely the best speaker comparison I've heard on TH-cam ever! While one will never really get a true sense of realism unless in front of the speakers, subjectively this made the best comparison in terms of difference of sound presentation.1. Sonus Faber is way to bright for my liking but huge soundstage. 2. Martin Logans lacked the size of soundstage compared to Sonus, but the midrange was quite warm, but surprisingly lacked a little at the top. 3. Magnepans were the surprise here. Lacked a little warmth and bass, but the soundstage was big. Overall the most balanced sound of the three to my ears, considering all the TH-cam compression and basic laptop soundcard bluetooth earphones etc. If anything I now know the difference in sound presentation between Martin Logan and Magnepan, which I've been curious about. Great comparison, thank you!
The Logans are kind of cloudy somehow, if you like a crystal clear imaging and sound stage, then magnepan + sub (with crossover on Magne cut off @ 80Hz below)
Very nice to compare Magnepan's to Martin Logan's ! I love both. I have a small preference to Magnepan when paired with adequate sub and amps. (I run a pair of W4S SX-1000R) The most pleasurable speakers I have listened to.
Nice comparison! Listened using my NS-1000s and surprised how easy I could tell the difference between each pair. I'm really familiar with the Martin Logan sound and always felt they were the best speaker for handling vocals and delicate string instruments and this video just reinforces that opinion. My problem with them is the highs always sound compressed and drums are missing that peircing snap. The Sonus Faber has it but they sounded really metallic everywhere else to me. They should all sound great in-person. Thanks for sharing.
I believe the listening test is skewed against the dipole Martin Logan's due to the fact that the Maggie's are directly behind them during this comparison........ That being said the lack of anything behind the Maggie's make them the clear winner. If the ML speakers were set up similarly the results might have been closer. The Sonus Faber speakers while sounding fine have the direct radiating sound known to box speakers and for that appeal to many. 😎✌* * Of course ........ This is just my opinion 😉👌.
The maggies do the best all round however I was surprised by the Sonus Faber's mid range which was cleaner than the other two. For me the Maggies. Was the comparison equal in terms of value???
"Very nice" comparo. Thanks for your seamless transitions and the huge amount of effort that went into this. Having owned the ML Sequel 2's for many years when first introduced I have a sweet spot for them and in this comparo they rise to the top followed by the Maggies then Sonus in my op. Good choice in music to highlight as well !
This is a baffle sound )) 1-0.5% THD vs 0.05% THD is noticeable once you hear a properly designed open baffle loudspeaker. For me, glued paper boxes do not exist any more. Honestly such extreme low distortions only planar systems can provide, but you can even take a traditional driver, remove a cage, and will get that free sound. Check out Infinity or NX-Otica The problem is that customers are not ready to see loudspeakers from a back side.
Thanks for you comment Dale, the setup for the Maggies is exactly how the manual suggest to place them, closer to the back wall to gain bottom end (which we needed for matching low end with the other speakers). Please go to page 4 if you want to check by yourself. www.integracoustics.com/MUG/MUG/pix/bullwinkle/
@@HiFiers I agree with Dale. Yes, the manual states that bass can be increased by closer wall placement, but also says to start by having them 3 ft. out from the wall, and move them forward or backward, to taste, which isn't the case here. They're too close to the wall. I've owned 5 models of Maggies. No chance for decent front-to-back-depth revelation, without pulling speakers well out into the room, if possible. A much bigger, deeper room would be ideal for a test like this, which, I realize, is easier said, than done.. Overall, though, this was an impressive test, with the Aerius pair coming out ahead, for me.
@@histubeness I don't have anything of value to add, but wanted to say how much I appreciate a disagreement about the technical setup without any needless drama.
SF with that usual treble boost, ML with that boosted midrange and rolled off highs (which gives it a very natural sound) and the Magnepans sounding more balanced than both although can be honky and thin sounding at times.
Trying to be neutral here, hence this comparison. Although I can tell you that 90% of this comments are in the aligned with my thoughts being there. Thanks
Love the sound of the Martin Logan in the video. The Sonus Faber sounds shrieky, but this immediately sounded to me like it's a problem because of a lack of a rug on the ground.
The top end of the Sonus Faber sounds quite coarse in this company. The Martin Logans sound the most convincing to me and are the ones that would be the most satisfying to use for all kinds of music.
Agreed. My step father was a big audiophile and he bought many high end speakers over the years and I will always remember the ML. They just sound SO good
Love this kind of comparison. Hard to really tell which is better without being there but based on the sound I’m hearing through TH-cam here is the order according to my ear: 1) Sonus faber 2) martin logan 3) magnepan.
Great job , let the speaker talk of their sound character, event this is very time consuming for preparation and production , yet effective and objective , thanks to assist me to decide to buy ML
Excelente trabajo el de este "tubero", así da gusto escuchar comparativas. Directo a tus oídos sin opiniones ajenas que condicionen la escucha. El formato de la presentación, emo, insuperable. Y la calidad de imagen y audio también Cinco estrellas para Hi Fiers. Os recomiendo su último video: Comparativa de amplificadores de diferente tipología. Sólido, válvulas e híbrido.
For me the clear winner is Martin Logan. The only speaker from those three that really blows me away. A very rich tone, waem and deep and wide image. The other two sound small. The Sonus Faber sound very flat, tiny and dull. Kind of withdrawn and hold back. The Magnapan is also sounding tiny and withdrawn with a hollow image. Maybe those two need a bigger amplifier and shine in another set up but not here. In the first song the differences are the biggest. In the following songs the gap get smaller but still the huge foundation of the Martin Logan win it for me. My experience with Martin Logan is that the bass is less present than in this video and it's a pity there is no mention of the exact speakers that are used. Martin Logan and Sonus Faber built bigger speakers that put put a bigger sound stage which would give a better comparison to the Magnapand on relation of a big sounddtage
Lol. This is a terrible showing of them. They are completely set up wrong. I can attest they sound far better than what is being shown. So do the Sonus
Maggie’s are amazing. Obviously they are very close to the wall and there’s no sub. So MLS seem to have e a fuller sound with deeper bass. Maggie’s setup properly with a fast sub is awesome
I own both Martin Logan Aeon i (front speakers) and Maggie MMG (rear speakers). Outlaw Audio sub, I guess for movies and Blueray Audio, this set up is quite wonderful in my downsizing years.
ML is the best, it seems to create the immediacy esp with vocals. Depth is realistic. Maggies are next and here you notice low/mid mud. The sound stage is wider, but looses on the depth. Last is the Sonus and really sounds terrible compared to the two. It has more width, but seems to the phasey type. This one has some harshness as well.
hearing wood in that first song snare stab is unreal on magnepan. I will test that song on my system tomorrow to compare :) I would try everything again with 2/3 of the floor covered in medium carpet, but that's just me. I would chopse logans because they don't seem fatigueing in this setup. thanx for vid
![Martin Logan, Jeff Rowland, dCS & Bassocontinuo IN A BEAUTIFUL SCENERY [4Kᵁᴴᴰ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-CM8Aj9gAO8/mqdefault.jpg)
I wish more people post comparisons such as these, rather than talk and preach. The speakers speak for themselves. Great job!
Agree totally.
@@pcbartolomeu How can you tell when the speakers you have at home is different from these?
me to but not a lot of people have the cash to buy 3 o more pairs of hi end speakers
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@@mrt6349 ye it bugs me how people look at video like this which are influenced both by microphone quality and their own output quality which mean it's completly meaningless.
Martin Logan just sounds so rich and full. The sound stage that they produce is truly breath taking.
Best looking of the 3 too.
the snare drums don't sound right with them. None of the air and dryness gets out, and the snare "room sound" isn't there compared to the other two. Also, the Martin Logans have very realistic vocals, much better than the other two. The Sonus Faber sound like very nice speakers, but the other two sound more live altogether. The Magnepans do have a speaker sound, coloration, but it's very pleasant.
@@ologylabs2374 I agree with everything you’ve listed above. I must say though. After listening to these in person next to a Bowers and Wilkins system nothing sounds quite like the diamond series from Bowers and Wilkins!
So the same songs straight from a CD player to your headphones or speakers are not truly breath taking?
I have never heard any of these speakers in real life, but to me in this video it's clearly:
Martin Logan > Sonus Faber > Magnepan.
That last one probably really needs one or two subs to support it, but even then still it sounds as flat as its building dimensions are.
By far, the best speaker comparison video on youtube. If this channel would have continued like this, it could have been BIG! 10+ hands down!
Incredible, three speakers with completely different sound, but at the same time beautiful, each in their own way. I am stunned. I love them all. PS: the quality of your recording is astounding. Your musical choice too.
buy them all
Couldn't agree more.
Amazing video, thanks for your time and efforts put into creating this seamless comparison. I thought the Martin Logan had the most detail and transparency of the three with enough bass. The Sonus sound was thin and lacked definition to my ears. The Maggies were second best, had lots of air but the bass was thin and the mids were little muffled as others commented. Of course you have to be there in person to really evaluate the speaker sounds. Thanks again and I look forward to your future videos.
I love the big, open sound of the Maggies, especially the non-restrictive lower registers:) I wouldn’t be averse to using a little eq if I felt the need to:)
The Logans sound the most realistic in replication of voice.
Yes I agree with you Martin logans
If Martin Logan is the best, there's some trouble. I listened to Martin Logan in person and they are nothing near as good as definitive technology.
ML voice sounds to forward and overall lacking in ambience details
Logans for the win! Much more realistic sound and fuller bass than the Maggies. SF not so good...sounds tiny and not a realistic representation.
@@jasonlsimmons the maggies has no subwoofer integrated. so the bass is not so strong ;) and the maggies hase more soundstage.
Close between the MLs and the Maggies. The Sonus aren't in the same league.
This is easily the best comparison video I've ever seen/heard.
Magnepan has the most neutral open sound; 2nd is Martin Logan but its vocals sound a little "muffled" compared to the Magnepans. Sonus Faber rank 3rd IMO, having a more uptrending tonal balance (which upon first listen can be appealing but wears over time). Well done demo!
Agreed. I think the bass is possibly the most tuneful on the Martin Logan’s. Vocals were more muffled for sure but also a bit more focused at the same time. Snare sounded a little choked and buried on the ML too
More better detail in The voice with Martin Logan's that means more neutral or get better headphones to listen to
Listening this via YT with my 2.7's 100% fully agreed ;)
The Martin Logans had the most natural sound, best body and vocal reproduction of the music. Deeper tighter bass.
They no longer sound muffled in any way, on the contrary, they sound more correct and, above all, with a more correct body.
Probably the best comparison I have heard on TH-cam, pretty effective considering it is coming through low end computer speakers with all sorts of degradation. Oh by the way the Logans win by a margin
Interesting listening to them in succession. Magnepan has more open sound. Martin Logan's have a more controlled sound. Sonus Faber sound like a small box radio compared to the others.
I'd go with Magnepan's paired with subs and use crossovers with an EQ to balance highs/mids with Magnepan and lows with subs.
Great video and thanks for sharing!
This was a lot of fun, I listened with my Infinity Gammas and I rate them this way, Sonus-last, Magnepan-second and the Martin Logan the clear winner. Also appreciate the way you did this, no BS and let the sound do the talking.
Had both maggies and MLs in my living room. Maggies require distance from sidewalls and have a very narrow sweet spot. When ideally placed they produce a massive soundstage...as long as your head is in a vice. MLs have a more conventional soundstage and need less room, but they are more revealing and detailed. Ive found a significant difference in sonic quality between the entry level LRS and higher end maggies.
This is by far the best comparison video I’ve ever seen, and the effort involved to produce the final seamless version must have been considerable.
Draw your own conclusions about which sound you prefer, but for what it’s worth, I’ve used MLs for years, but have changed to Maggies. What this video can’t convey is the height and depth of the soundstage Maggies produce. Also, MLs are every bit as tricky to place to get sounding right as the Maggies, and have a much smaller listening sweet spot.
No negative comments please, I’m only trying to help!
Good job of level matching and synchronization. Listening with Sennheiser HD800S, the differences are striking. I suspect that if the Magnepans were set up properly that I would choose them based on this video.
I don't know much about these speakers. But I loved the tonality of the Martin Logans; the voices, instruments and dynamic's sound amazing. Although they might have a boost in the mid range. The Magnepans sound like they have a boost in the high range. The Sonus sound the most neutral, but also the most boring. Thank you for your effort!
maggies are more neutral, the Sonus is more shrill. the ml's have built in subs, just add rel's to the maggies and you are on a whole different level
This is how comparison videos should be made. Great work much appreciated
OMG! Perhaps the best comparison I´ve experienced on YT! Thank you for all your great effort you put into this video - very technical correct! It was very very fun and interesting to listen and compare these speakers. I want more of this!!! I cannot decide which is best - Maggie or ML? It comes down what kind of music you are listening to.
My 5 cents about these contenders.
Maggie+ Live, natural sound, large sound stage, airy, you do not miss a note! Maggie-: Little thin on mid bass. I thought this was without a sub!
ML+ Thick/full sound, natural voice/choir, great low extension with slam/dynamics, airy and quite natural. ML- Not much... Not as open sounding as Maggie & less live with smaller sound stage, but overall a great performer.
SF+ ??? SF- Must have better room acoustics (little harsh). Where did midrange and bass notes went?
ML does really really well in this competition and is the over all winner as it sound descent on all tracks, but Maggie on second song. A tough one!
It is easy to hear that dynamic speakers that SF need a room with better room acoustics as they sound hollow and harsh. Electrostats or ribbon design does not spread sound half as much and becomes much easier to tame in normal rooms, IMO. You must pay attention to front wall distance (bass performance), toe in and perhaps add some bass traps and tame the back wave with soft or diffusion materials then you are good to go :) Regards
The Maggie's are set up completely wrong. You arent getting a decent showing at all.
@Baba Ganush thanks for the explanation 👍
One of if not the best side by side.
Been curious about Mags vs some Logans. TY
I've listened to this video several times. The Sonus Faber are clear my favourites. Depth and soundstage and of course my musical ear. The other two sound light.
Spot on. Was hoping to finally find this comment. Been puzzled by most comments ignoring the SF and gushing over the dull and constricted sounding ML. With the SF the speakers disappear and the room becomes the "soundstage". Also that *is* what a snare and hi hat sound like. The other two are what recordings of a snare and hi hat sound like.
Not gonna talk about which is best. I know the acoustic differences are also due to different positions /environments but I think this i the best video presentation I have seen/listen to. This type of experiments is something that takes time and effort. Thank You.
Приветствую, Канал! Sonus Faber, кристально чистый звук. Лучшее сочетание красоты баланса и звука, на мой взгляд. Продажи говорят больше за Sonus Faber. Всем приятного прослушивания любимых композиций. С благодарностью, Вячеслав.
All are great! I think the most dynamic are the sonus fiber by my ear, I love the magnepans cus of the direct sound. The Logans, I think have to heavy base and swollows the other frequiencies. Thanks for showing me these three marvels!
.The Martin Logan sounds like a warm hug from a beautiful woman.
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I have both of these speakers.....Maggies and ML's......This was a spot on demo of thier characteristics......great work.
Cool video. Pretty accurate to live experience with the ML's and the Magnepans. The ML's voice reproduction is more pronounced but has that muffled-ness, as if the mylar is too tight. The Magnepan's visceral affect, the ability to disappear, doesn't show in the video. Cool video of these speakers.
I use to own 1.7i some sounds will be stuck on the panel. Maggie with right equipment most airy treble tho 😊
So your headphones are pretty accurate to live experience?
Well done video, thanks.
All three are very good speakers. Magnepan winner.
I agree Martin Logans sound fuller and detail, very open instruments are more present/forward, bass is tight.
Have been interested in Martin Logan for some time and pulled the trigger and bought the entry level ESLs in part due to this comparison. I listened to this comparison using Sony MDR 7506 headphones. My MLs sound remarkably like this recording. To my ears, the MLs sounds like the original recordings. The other two sound like recordings of speakers in a room. I do agree the Mags have a more open airy sound on this recording, but the MLs just sound like the performers are there up close. To my ears, the Sonus just sound like average speakers. I guess everyone has their own taste. Thanks for making this recording - it is very well done.
Listened again after 2 months and I have to say this itme around the Magnepans seem to have the most natural open sound! I listened previously on my headphones and thiis time round I am listening on my speakers. It just goes to show how important it is to audition equipment in person and to be aware of the limitations of asessing equipmnent on your own system from a TH-cam recording!
No! after listening again it's definately the Martin Logan's for me - they sound has the natural mid-range of the Magnepans but are more dynamic and engaging. The fuller bass is also welcome!
I could tell the Martin Logans sounded better than the Magnepans after about 5 seconds.
@@BartholomewSmutz There is absolutely nothing better in ML sound compared to Maggies. MLs sound artificial asf in comparison. Timbre of Sonus is way off compared to above two tho.
Your comparison was very helpful! Thanks so very much for taking the time and the precise methodology. Again ... so helpful! Have a great day.
What a fantastic way to compare speakers! Very well done video!
For me the Martin Logan sound great !
What an awesome way to compare speakers! Well done!
This is absolutely the best speaker comparison I've heard on TH-cam ever! While one will never really get a true sense of realism unless in front of the speakers, subjectively this made the best comparison in terms of difference of sound presentation.1. Sonus Faber is way to bright for my liking but huge soundstage. 2. Martin Logans lacked the size of soundstage compared to Sonus, but the midrange was quite warm, but surprisingly lacked a little at the top. 3. Magnepans were the surprise here. Lacked a little warmth and bass, but the soundstage was big. Overall the most balanced sound of the three to my ears, considering all the TH-cam compression and basic laptop soundcard bluetooth earphones etc. If anything I now know the difference in sound presentation between Martin Logan and Magnepan, which I've been curious about. Great comparison, thank you!
The Logans are kind of cloudy somehow, if you like a crystal clear imaging and sound stage, then magnepan + sub (with crossover on Magne cut off @ 80Hz below)
Very nice to compare Magnepan's to Martin Logan's ! I love both. I have a small preference to Magnepan when paired with adequate sub and amps. (I run a pair of W4S SX-1000R) The most pleasurable speakers I have listened to.
That's basically what the Martin Logans are out of the box.
Fantastic comparison. Really appreciate the ML.
Nice comparison! Listened using my NS-1000s and surprised how easy I could tell the difference between each pair. I'm really familiar with the Martin Logan sound and always felt they were the best speaker for handling vocals and delicate string instruments and this video just reinforces that opinion. My problem with them is the highs always sound compressed and drums are missing that peircing snap. The Sonus Faber has it but they sounded really metallic everywhere else to me.
They should all sound great in-person. Thanks for sharing.
Incredible comparison thank you so much
Great comparison video ... I was surprised at the results, I actually preferred the Martin Logans! Thanks again.
I was surprised how thin the Maggies sounded. Like previous people said, the Martin Logans sounds full and pleasing.
martin logans have built in subwoofer, maggies sound better in person, and add bass panels or rel subs and you are in heaven
Considering how much room is available, no effort was put into setting the Magnapans up correctly.
@@jon4715 ML do not have SUB woofers in them. just regular woofers.
To my ears, based on this video, Martin Logan wins
Based on your phones speakers.
@@terencemcculloch3294 is what I meant. Precisely!
I believe the listening test is skewed against the dipole Martin Logan's due to the fact that the Maggie's are directly behind them during this comparison........ That being said the lack of anything behind the Maggie's make them the clear winner. If the ML speakers were set up similarly the results might have been closer. The Sonus Faber speakers while sounding fine have the direct radiating sound known to box speakers and for that appeal to many. 😎✌*
* Of course ........ This is just my opinion 😉👌.
Through my Magnepan 1.6's backed by a pair of 12" subs, your Martin Logans sound the best.
I love them all through my Sonus Faber Sonetto 3’s
The maggies do the best all round however I was surprised by the Sonus Faber's mid range which was cleaner than the other two. For me the Maggies. Was the comparison equal in terms of value???
It's the Martin Logan's for me, far better vocal presentation.
Absolutly! I have the same model , they are exellent for opera, classical music and jazz
Martin Logan has a full, natural, live-stage like sound.
Thanks ! This is very helpful !
Fantastic comparison. Well done. Thank you for your effort.
"Very nice" comparo. Thanks for your seamless transitions and the huge amount of effort that went into this. Having owned the ML Sequel 2's for many years when first introduced I have a sweet spot for them and in this comparo they rise to the top followed by the Maggies then Sonus in my op. Good choice in music to highlight as well !
No doubt! MLs
Best on line demo. Well done.
WFT is wrong with those Sonus Faber, they sound terrible. the ML sounds great IMO
This is a baffle sound )) 1-0.5% THD vs 0.05% THD is noticeable once you hear a properly designed open baffle loudspeaker. For me, glued paper boxes do not exist any more.
Honestly such extreme low distortions only planar systems can provide, but you can even take a traditional driver, remove a cage, and will get that free sound. Check out Infinity or NX-Otica
The problem is that customers are not ready to see loudspeakers from a back side.
This is a bad setup for the Maggies. They need to be be toed in and pulled out from the wall. You are cancelling the dipole sound out.
Thanks for you comment Dale, the setup for the Maggies is exactly how the manual suggest to place them, closer to the back wall to gain bottom end (which we needed for matching low end with the other speakers). Please go to page 4 if you want to check by yourself. www.integracoustics.com/MUG/MUG/pix/bullwinkle/
@@HiFiers I agree with Dale. Yes, the manual states that bass can be increased by closer wall placement, but also says to start by having them 3 ft. out from the wall, and move them forward or backward, to taste, which isn't the case here. They're too close to the wall. I've owned 5 models of Maggies. No chance for decent front-to-back-depth revelation, without pulling speakers well out into the room, if possible. A much bigger, deeper room would be ideal for a test like this, which, I realize, is easier said, than done.. Overall, though, this was an impressive test, with the Aerius pair coming out ahead, for me.
@@histubeness I don't have anything of value to add, but wanted to say how much I appreciate a disagreement about the technical setup without any needless drama.
incredible !love Logan and Sonus!
Awesome comparison!!!
Martin Logan won for me.
The martin logans sound more natural and intimate on the voice.
SF with that usual treble boost, ML with that boosted midrange and rolled off highs (which gives it a very natural sound) and the Magnepans sounding more balanced than both although can be honky and thin sounding at times.
nice best ever review about soundstage
Such a JOY....Thank you. (I miss my MLs so much....)
Brilliant. Love your technique.
Great video! Awesome to see such a terrific comparison.
The Martin Logan makes the other sounds muffled.
see, you have to interpret the sound through the mic and your speakers
I prefer the sound of the electrostats, but have always had a thing about them since I was young. They are on my bucket list.
Nice video. Some in-person commentary would be insightful.
Trying to be neutral here, hence this comparison. Although I can tell you that 90% of this comments are in the aligned with my thoughts being there. Thanks
Martin Logan wins, hands down!
Love the sound of the Martin Logan in the video.
The Sonus Faber sounds shrieky, but this immediately sounded to me like it's a problem because of a lack of a rug on the ground.
Great side by side by side. I have had ML's for over 30 years. To my ears they won hands down. Who was the swing band
towards the end ?
no toe-in for the speakers? reflecting floor, short distance to the back?
good sound inspite the conditions. thank you for the good video!
The top end of the Sonus Faber sounds quite coarse in this company. The Martin Logans sound the most convincing to me and are the ones that would be the most satisfying to use for all kinds of music.
Agreed. My step father was a big audiophile and he bought many high end speakers over the years and I will always remember the ML. They just sound SO good
I currently own Electromotion ESL!
Three totally diferent technologies, I like all of them.
Love this kind of comparison. Hard to really tell which is better without being there but based on the sound I’m hearing through TH-cam here is the order according to my ear: 1) Sonus faber 2) martin logan 3) magnepan.
Subscribed because of this video. Please Keep it Up with the AB. excellent!!!
Will do, stay tuned!
Internet needs more videos like this
Sonus Faber play very open and clear.👌👌👌👌👌😬🎵🎼🤘
Being an Aerius user for 15+ years, I can confidently say I love the Aerius beyond compare...
I think Martin Logan Aerius I is the winner. Invite me over next time and I will help moving your stuff and bring some ice cold beer.
Having to choose would drive me nuts. They all sound great, but in different ways and for different reasons.
Good job! Would be interesting to hear the latest Magnepan 30.7's in this test.
Best ever comparison I've experienced 👍
This is a valuable service
The Martins sound the best, the Magnepans sound hollow even with their subwoofer. Classic speakers are falling behind.
The Martin Login are the only ones than I could ear for many hour in arow
Excellent job! Ingenious!
Great job , let the speaker talk of their sound character, event this is very time consuming for preparation and production , yet effective and objective , thanks to assist me to decide to buy ML
That was the idea Bambang, glad to read this. Happy listening!
Excelente trabajo el de este "tubero", así da gusto escuchar comparativas. Directo a tus oídos sin opiniones ajenas que condicionen la escucha. El formato de la presentación, emo, insuperable. Y la calidad de imagen y audio también Cinco estrellas para Hi Fiers. Os recomiendo su último video: Comparativa de amplificadores de diferente tipología. Sólido, válvulas e híbrido.
This is how all hifi comparisons should be done👍🏻 Thank you for your effort🙏🏻
Thank you! This was a great video
For me the clear winner is Martin Logan. The only speaker from those three that really blows me away. A very rich tone, waem and deep and wide image. The other two sound small. The Sonus Faber sound very flat, tiny and dull. Kind of withdrawn and hold back. The Magnapan is also sounding tiny and withdrawn with a hollow image. Maybe those two need a bigger amplifier and shine in another set up but not here. In the first song the differences are the biggest. In the following songs the gap get smaller but still the huge foundation of the Martin Logan win it for me. My experience with Martin Logan is that the bass is less present than in this video and it's a pity there is no mention of the exact speakers that are used. Martin Logan and Sonus Faber built bigger speakers that put put a bigger sound stage which would give a better comparison to the Magnapand on relation of a big sounddtage
I’m so glad I never bought a set of magnepan’s. Those Logan’s sounded very good.
Lol. This is a terrible showing of them. They are completely set up wrong. I can attest they sound far better than what is being shown. So do the Sonus
Maggie’s are amazing. Obviously they are very close to the wall and there’s no sub. So MLS seem to have e a fuller sound with deeper bass. Maggie’s setup properly with a fast sub is awesome
It’s obvious these guys need their ears checked because the Maggie’s win easily
All three models sound fantastic but to my ears, Martin Logan makes me feel like I'm in the studio with the artist! 😂
martin logan sound 10000000 times better!!!
Best comparison EVER !
I own both Martin Logan Aeon i (front speakers) and Maggie MMG (rear speakers). Outlaw Audio sub, I guess for movies and Blueray Audio, this set up is quite wonderful in my downsizing years.
I had aeon i's....one of my favorites...was killer with an old McIntosh amp
ML is the best, it seems to create the immediacy esp with vocals. Depth is realistic. Maggies are next and here you notice low/mid mud. The sound stage is wider, but looses on the depth. Last is the Sonus and really sounds terrible compared to the two. It has more width, but seems to the phasey type. This one has some harshness as well.
great comparison. thx
Martin Logan BASS; Magnepan MIDs and Sonus Faber treble.
hearing wood in that first song snare stab is unreal on magnepan. I will test that song on my system tomorrow to compare :)
I would try everything again with 2/3 of the floor covered in medium carpet, but that's just me.
I would chopse logans because they don't seem fatigueing in this setup.
thanx for vid