ON GUNDAM: UC 0079 MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM, REVIEW/RETROSPECTIVE
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Sections:
00:00 I Why do we still care?
05:20 Titles
05:33 II Context
24:42 III The age of the machine animated moving battle warriors
37:08 IV Yoshiyuki Tomino and the people who will make Gundam
58:54 Eyecatch
59:00 V The V project
1:16:28 VI The One Year War
1:47:41 VII Mobile suit infantry
2:17:58 VIII An animated war, and its animators
2:44:08 IX Make way for the homo superior
3:15:28 X UC 0080 CE 1980 An anime generation
Thanks to:
-Morlock for getting me started
-Konanne for helping me research everything
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-Lilly Harper for the background 3D models and loops
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"This is without of doubt one the best Gundam videos ever crafted and posted onto TH-cam..." -A diehard Gundam fan.
Completely agree.
Agreed 💯
youre an absolute angel for doing an actual analysis and not a summary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU
It's a small detail, and one that often gets overlooked by the people who love Getter Robo's over the top machismo, but I also think it might contain one of the first instance of the protagonist being a traumatized and unwilling pilot to the main machine. Admittedly, Getter justifies this with a subplot about amnesia but the idea is totally there.
was that the anime or the manga? i havent watched the anime and its been a while since a read the manga and all i really rember was that they wher a bunch a f-ing psychos lol
@@billassburger6854 Oh they *are* a bunch of psychos, but Both Hayato and Ryoma have their own scenes of not wanting to pilot the robot in the early parts of the manga.
I came for giant robots, instead I got a whole history lesson *and* giant robots. I see that as an absolute win.
WE’RE JUMPING ON TO WHITE BASE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
was watching this while extremely sleep deprived. woke up the next day to get back to it and thought i'd have to rewind it a whole hour bc of amnesia, only to find i remembered everything up until 5mins before i fell asleep. this is an extrememly rare occurence, usually I'd have forgotten everything. this is a testament to your storytelling skills.
That's a wonderful compliment thank you!
Thank you for making this! Once or twice a year I'll go on youtube and search "gundam 0079 retrospective" to see if anyone new has been able to put into words/video that I feel when I watch the show. I wish I'd done that earlier this year and seen this sooner, the work you've done here is so incredible! Not only the heaps of research but also how you speak about the emotional aspects in a way that explains them without divorcing them from their impact. The section about newtypes is very powerful, it's exactly what I feel when experiencing the show. And learning how hard Tomino and the entire team worked to tell this story makes me feel even more connected to it and to other fans. Really excited to watch the next video!
I can pretty confidently say this one was made for folks like you. Be sure to check out the Zeta one and ZZ one when i hopefully finish it up at the end of this month.
Did Red Eric and the local jester Gigguk really deserve such a fate....
YES
TH-cam community standards prevent me from describing what fate Gigguk deserves
This is such an amazing retrospective. Never did I think a show that grew with me as a kid had so much history and complexities behind it. Thank you for making this
For me part of the magic of this work is that after voraciously consuming everything I possibly could about the show and its historical context nonstop since the turn of the century, I can still click on a video like this and have the narrative completely turned on its head by some newly translated detailed five minutes in.
It is a work that continually rewards you in direct proportion to your investment and from the gate it appeals to nearly every kind of obsessive mind in one way or another. I've heard analyses not just from anime critics and the allegedly typical "database mind" otaku that the later marketing focuses so heavily on, but historians, psychologists, physicists, sociologists and musicians.
I strongly believe if not for the lingering haze of Orientalism in academia and the enduring stigma surrounding animation, sci fi, and television, all commonly viewed as lesser and more frivolous media outside of we enlightened few's bubbles, that Mobile Suit Gundam would be in discourse with, not just the great classics of anime, but with the capital g Great capital c Classics of the 20th century art and literature. It is flawed but, so is nearly all the celebrated Great Art of the Century.
We don't celebrate the later refined works of these artists for their expert mastery, we celebrate their early breakthrough works that struggled in spite of all odds to coherently say something that had never been said before. Every now and then you get an artist like Picasso or Stravinsky who manage to reinvent themselves and capture that lighting more than once, but usually those refined later works are for the fans captured by those bold early works.
Gundam is not the work of a singular auteur of course, but if we view the entire franchise as a single collaborative effort it very much fits this mold.
Fuck this got away from me, but I just love this show so got dang much
Yeah it's very much a true blue GOAT.
I think you worded this perfectly. And you're absolutely right about how we view animation now. If there wasn't such a stigma in the first place, gundam would likely be an incredible well known and respected work of art and literature.
Thanks for providing proper context when discussing such topics. A lot of other reviews of Gundam seem to leave it out
Just a minor correction: The Zeon is exhausted speech was made by General Revil after his rescue from Zeon, that led to the Antarctic Treaty and months of war. Gihren's speech was telling Zeon to rise and fight.
Oh whoops confused the two.
Thank you for dedicating so much time into producing this amazing, and important video on what made Gundam an enormous cultural hit, and why to this day it is still very much relevant.
I have to say, this is perhaps the most informative video on GUNDAM I've seen. You've really gone the distance looking into the roots of the series--terrific work!
puting a pin on this one for when I finished watching the show (watched the movie back then wasn't satisfied but it did kickstart the gundam brainrot) . Your entire channel's catalogue feel like a rabit hole I'm gonna really enjoy when working .
Thank you for this, its the culmination of feelings I have felt since first hearing the opening narrative music and "the year is universal century 0079..." scrolling text that immediately grabbed me as a child.
Those first few episode runs of the dub on adult swim in the early 00s solidified my love for anime. I searched desperately for the dvds in local Suncoasts at the mall but only ever found one volume, the tragic matilda death up through miharu spy arc. It was precious to me but it added to the mystery of the series that I only had a glimpse of it. I actually first experienced the story more fully in the Journey to Jaburo PS2 game.
anyways this was an awesome watch and Ill gladly watch the rest of your content!
also Gallant Char is probably my favorite song in all anime OSTs lmao
You really are the best channel on YT for discussion on Mecha. You really put the effort in research that most ignore and instead repeat the takes that persist in public discourse, especially about Newtypes, character drama and real life influences for the setting.
I love your passion and your ability to channel it, it's moved me to tears before. I wish I could do the same one day, with creative writing but my own experiences with failure in all aspects of life and my pain have discouraged me. But this video reminds me that Gundam 0079 will always be a personal favorite of animation and one of my biggest inspirations.
I am glad it is resonating well with people and they enjoyed it. All I can ask in return help spread it around a bit 😅 making it has worn me out and I don't always have tons of energy to constantly self promote.
Beautiful fucking video, absolute masterwork.
Damn, feels good to discover your channel, I really miss this level of analysis for shows these days and gundam is a great target for it.
Thanks! Zeta is currently wip
@@argonbolt Can't wait, especially after bingeing so much of your videos lol
I hope you can do indepth videos on the rest of Tomino's filmography espcially L-Gaim and Brain Powerd
L-Gaim needs more love. I’m still desperately waiting for a blu ray of it. Even though this year is its 40th anniversary, it doesn’t seem that we are getting one.
Absolutely splendid, I have learned so much of the history of this show, thank you.
I'd consider myself a new Gundam fan, and I'm really glad to have been educated by this video. But I'm also kind of wary about all those fans you brought up. Strangely enough they sounded like people I've already heard about. Not meaning to disrespect but sometimes we do extract some behaviors we saw and made them whole 'enemies' in our head, while they probably made those remarks without much thoughts at first. They likely will change their minds if they are informed better down the line (I hope).
Granted I have not interacted with Gundam fans or navigate around that space much. So I don't know the scale of these subset of fans. But I do wonder how concrete they hold onto beliefs like "take Newtypes out and focus on war". That extreme sounds ridiculous to me. Thank you for this comprehensive video!
You have been fortunately spared
Watching this whole series was such a treat for me while building the Nu Gundam Ver Ka myself. I loved the storytelling you have done and the whole history lesson behind Gundam's inception as well. Thank you for this great video
Finally got around to sitting down and watching this full video. As always your commentary is in-depth, well researched and incredibly entertaining. Your reviews have a way of making me appreciate things I liked even more so. This video in and of itself is a fine piece of art, an insightful and emotional piece of work. Bravo.
Gundam has filled up my hyperfocus for years at this point. I have to say brother, this is a FANFUCKINTASTIC video. Knocked its out of the park. Your history lesson over Japan and the world is wonderful.
How am I only now finding this series
I swear to God This will be used for a college thesis some day. It's 2:37am and I'm still listening 3 hours later
AS LONG AS THEY CREDIT ME AND GIVE ME A LOAD OF MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THEY CAN USE IT!
Spectacular work! I can't even imagine how much work went into this from the research to production.
Nice to have someone with a good voiceover. Looking forward to more to come!
I did not expect this video will be 3hrs… But this video is awesome! great job making this video 👍💯 you earned a Sub!
thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Bro really started the video about Gundam with a history lesson about Japan. He's an official video essayist for sure lop
this video took amazing and dedicated work. thank you for posting it, i thoroughly enjoyed myself.
This has criminally few views! I cannot believe the production quality!
Over 3 hours of discussion of Gundam? Sign me the FUCK UP!
Thanks for the video, made my work day better. Entertaining and Educational.
God damn your stuff touches on elements that most people don’t just gloss over but rather are wholly unaware of. I hear things like the influence of the Meji restoration or the impact of Mazinger on the mecha supergenre so rarely that I genuinely forget to take these into account when thinking about Japanese media. You don’t hit people over the head with this stuff and it’s all kept light enough to be interesting, but it is important and is so rarely even considered. I really appreciate this level of detail and care regarding SciFi, Japanese history, and the actual cultural significance of Gundam.
Glad you enjoyed it!
i survived ON GUNDAM and all I got was this lousy comment
Easily the best Gundam video on youtube and there's going to be more? Oh boy. Did I understand correctly that you plan to stop at Char's Counterattack?
For now*
Hopefully we get a later extension just to justify using the line about Unicorn a guy on the discord came ups with
Gundam touched all of our hearts with the mechs and characters
Such a well created and great video 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Come to find white noise as background but stop what I'm doing and watch the video
Holy feth....nearly 4 hours in length! This is perfect for Monday lol
I have been waiting for this.
This was a wonderful tribute to Gundam. Well done and well written.
Thank you I am you enjoyed it! However I am still going with Tracer Tong's alternative, human's may not be perfect, but what we direly need is good governance, not a chatbot.
Well worth the wait
Hey Argonbolt, Thanks for making me care again.
I appreciate the use of House main theme. I watched it with my friend a couple days ago and loved it. It fits the video segment really well. Around the same time, I've also learned about Sanrizuka struggle, which impresses me how well youtube's algorithm can match the content to the user (or maybe it's just a dumb luck😅).
You missed the opportunity to use the g gundam MacArthur that pilots the space Statue of Liberty when you talked about the real life MacArthur
Another excellent video
I am digging this Adam Curtis doc about gundam
Well congrats, this is far above any video about first Gundam I have seen on youtube. I espacially liked how you continually stressed Tomino's commitment to make his works reachable for a large audience. While they are at a somewhat antagonising position, I think the big thing in common with creators like Tomino and toy companies like Clover end Bandai is that they both want to reach a lot of people (though for different reasons). I also liked the jab at sites like ANN or the Gundam wiki. There has been a ton of interviews/articles/analyses about Gundam which have been written/translated, especially in recent years, but they are all scattered in various websites. Centralized way to access Gundam knowledge like the wiki are currently godawful so you have to be "in the know" to get the good stuff. It's good to see a video like this relying on an extensive list of sources.
Very happy you enjoyed it!
I completely agree, the majority of the Gundam pages on Wikipedia are greatly lacking information wise, which in comparison to other pages like NGE, shows how umbiased, unbalanced and unreliable Wikipedia can be when given free reign control by subscribed users.
I actually really loved the analysis and history of Japan and th world at large to set the scene for gundam. It was a really nice touch.
3:24 Man. It's depressing to think that in an Alternate Timeline the First Real Robot Show would have been eaten and consumed by the Super Robot Toy Tie in Cycle and never gain relevance again...
the "super/real" distinction is horsepiss, and i'm sure gundam would've climbed out of the gutter nontheless, if maybe not as the all-encompassing giant it is in our time.
the "super/real" distinction is horsepiss, and i'm sure gundam would've climbed out of the gutter nontheless, if maybe not as the all-encompassing giant it is in our time.
the "super/real" distinction is horsepiss, and i'm sure gundam would've climbed out of the gutter nontheless, if maybe not as the all-encompassing giant it is in our time.
How the hell did you Triple post this?@@ikariwolv767
I shed a tear...
a good day for sure
This analysis makes me understand the series in a new light! I was told all of the lies told about this series that you debunked. I will definitely check out other Gundam videos on your channel.
this is masterpiece.
@ 31:40 the zoom in fade of the foreground characters ive never seen before!
I need another fix. It has been while since Hathaway. Bring it on.
Im a Filipino, and the plot twist after that is when the 1987 constitution was built...... PHILIPPINES WAS NEVER A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE ANYMORE, voltes v might have the right message but at what cost.
Edit: now for gundam though i was just 15 at the time when i discovered gundam 0079,it was janky, old and very rusty in animation.... But i was so obsessed with till i got to watch it till the compilation movies, it changed me completely, before gundam i was an introvert, lacks communication skills and didn't have a hobby or friends to share such hobbies until the gundam franchise came, i made new friends, i became approachable, i become empowered and ofcourse i had new toys tp collect(gunpla), i also showed this to my old brother and we both got sucked it to the world and chaotic but beautiful the UC timeline was and made sense so much so than Voltes V. My brother and father was a soldier and everytime we would marathon gundam they always tell these grim stories of war, but they always say that "we fought so that the next generation can live and care for the future" this show even though i was not a soldier become personal for me and made me reflect the world we live in today, i cared for the world and aspire to someday help to make it better, gundam can teach us alot of things and it means alot to all of us.
……..bro i HOW OR WHO DID THAT CHAR VOICE SO GOOD😂
Where is the footage from/what game appears around 1:55:10 ? Thanks for the video!
ExoCorps on Steam, currently only in early access iirc.
What's the song used at @ 24:44?
is the music you opened with in the chapter on the history of japan from TW Shogun's OST?
You know it.
@@argonbolt well, looks like i gotta set 6 hours aside to watch some peak essay
I feel the "balance" of making a work that has ideas, has a point and has something to say and balancing it with a general appeal, a means to profit off of that and looked at under a strict meritocracy is something that is lost on a lot of modern entertainment.
I often think of something like more recent startrek where it constantly has something its trying to say (even if its from an unuanced and point of view that lacks world experience.) But it also lacks a general appeal and the intelligence and pramatism required to make something successful.
And this is in an age where its even harder to get someone's attention much less their guaranteed viewership past the first episode dump of a series.
Fantastic work, and the best video essay on Gundam on the internet by several orders of magnitude. I was surprised as to how much misinformation I had absorbed over the years about Tomino and the show's production; the bit about Clover was something I had never heard before. Gigguk always deserves to be dunked on as well; a complete midwit as well as a shill. (If you ever go even more insane at some point, a long-form video on Evangelion is also sorely needed. There's so much misinformation and 80-IQ takes on the net that I just don't get involved in discussion anymore.) (Also, also, if you ever get around to ZZ this decade I'm going to laugh when the names of the cast come up. Lemon People -> Elpeo Ple still makes my laugh a decade after I watched the show.)
I'm glad you liked it! I certainly have a lot to say about a ton of mecha shows in the future, Eva included
@@argonbolt I saw alot of hour long video about Evangelion on YT but I'm definetly curius about your take on it.
This should have more viewer, all this work and only 4K people see this?
If every one can aspire to become newtype then that solidifies my belief the Jerid became one by the end as well.
What powered suit video game was shown in at 1:55:01?
Exocorps
Will this series go all the way through UC/Regild century/Correct century
Side note: Gundam Unicorn does give a indication later on which year it actually takes place, it gives some numbers which can be calculated to 0079 be in the year 2127. I think it was Unicorn that tells this.
Yes I laid it all out in the first video "How to watch Gundam" but a lot of people seemed to miss that. Basically the idea is to get around to everything eventually, but i want to review and do other stuff in between gundam series so i don't get burned out.
It seems to me an oversight, when mentioning so many novels that were the inspiration for Tomino and 1st Gundam, to not mention the novel written contemporaneously when the show was airing, by Tomino himself.
I don't mention it because it kinda is it's own thing. Like beltorchikas children it is a similar story but becomes its own thing. Also like beltorchikas children it's largely just an alternative version of very similar events.
@@argonbolt The reason I find it interesting to the development of the show is that the drafts for the ending of Mobile Suit Gundam had it heading off in a similar direction as the novel, and Tomino is actually quoted as saying, had he known that the show was going to continue and end the way that it did when it aired, he would have written the novel differently, suggesting that it would have completely changed the trajectory of the entire series. He's also spoken many times of his intention to kill off several major characters throughout later shows. What's interesting to me about the novels is that it is essentially Tomino's completely independent narrative of Gundam before it finished airing, in the form of a finished novel. It also has the inner voices and thoughts of the characters, and expands considerably on the idea of Newtypes. The fact that it was written (and finished) before they had determined how the show was going to end just makes it more interesting. I also find the fact that the original Gundam's neutral color scheme and that Amuro is a professional soldier (and an adult) interesting - both of these things contrast with the production of the TV show. You made a point in the video about how it was intended to feature teenagers per the production notes, yet curiously,. in the novel, there are no children onboard the base. It's interesting context, if nothing else.
Regarding Beltorchika's Children, it's basically a 1 to 1 with the movie, with the exception of Beltorchika and, well, her child. Even Izubuchi's finished drafts for the Nu Gundam appear prominently. That's because this proposal was accepted by the studio - with the exception of Beltorchika and Amuro's child appearing in the movie. High Streamer on the other hand, Tomino's original proposal, is much different - the beginning of the novel is completely different, and so is the art, both for the characters and the mobile suit designs, having been done by a completely different artist not used in the film production. I'm actually in the process of reading High Streamer specifically because I find CCA to be kind of jarring and lacking explanation in any of Tomino's animated UC works - explanation that I also didn't find in Beltorchika's Children, which is beat-for-beat the same plot as the movie and the direct continuity for Hathaway's Flash.
The fact that High Streamer starts before the events of CCA is a big deal, as most viewers get to CCA and feel, if nothing else, that Char's motivations are lacking explanation and maybe even are out of character from his appearance in Zeta. I've even seen people point to a PS1 video game cutscene and make up an explanation - this makes no sense, as Tomino had no involvement, whereas he literally wrote an entire novel full of ideas before production even started. The real reason is that almost no one has read it in the west - until Zeonic Scanlations came along with a full English fan translation on his Patreon!
can you add the jpanese titlies for the Japanese sources because when I search the english names for some of them I get nothing
I'll see what I can do
I think this video does a pretty good job on explaining the significance of the original Gundam. The Newtype thing has always been a point of contention in my enjoyment of the UC timeline in general, but that only becomes a problem in Zeta onwards, and mostly in the Tomino handled main series. The original concept is one I grasp, but so often the execution is done so poorly or so similarly, that it truly makes UC a progressively bleak and depressing timeline that struggles to learn from itself (unless that's the point). I'd argue that minimal elements, or the complete absence of Newtypes leads to some good, even great stories in Gundam, but that varies in a franchise as large as it. Unicorn especially is great at showcasing the building blocks of the mishandling of Newtypes, and builds to its illogical extremes, to my enjoyment. But that is neither here nor there, as the original does a great job of humanizing some of Zeon, which is something that isn't shown as much down the line, or as well, anyways. It is a seminal work that deserves to be remembered, if not for the commercialization of the franchise itself now, but for its cultural impact. And to think, I only started my journey as a Gundam watcher because of context for video games...I will be watching the Zeta video, to see if I can be convinced of its worth, as so many others claim. Be proud of the work done here, as there's a lot of information gone unnoticed in other videos on the subject, even if the barrier of entry is high, but that's just like the original concept of Gundam, now, isn't it?
Very glad you enjoyed it and wrote out a nice thoughtful comment. I do hope you enjoy the Zeta vid, as well as uhhh when the ZZ is done. Maybe look more forward to CCA lol.
@@argonbolt No problem. I look forward to these deeper dives into these shows that don't get talked much about beyond surface level topics like the mechs and how cool they look (or how the animation is dated), rather than if the story they are from is anything good to begin with. I will definitely be interested to see where you land on ZZ, as I believe that to be bottom of the barrel, despite the claims that the second half is better. CCA is also something I'm willing to reconsider as well, with how you will handle these concepts of the Newtypes especially, and with how crazy it gets.
What's that first japenese song ?
time stamp?
@@argonbolt 11:31
@@josephhward3288Yamato OST, Universe Spreading to Infinity
@@argonbolt thank you
What is the song around the 2:51:14 mark?
Porno Graffiti Apollo
@@argonbolt I guess that should been obvious. Thank you for replying anyway.
i love gumdam
Then make sure to share!
Nice 3 body problem references
???
You said “they revolve around like a 3 body star system…… predicting ‘something’ era “
@@progamerhennessey9483 time stamp? I legit don't remember
@@argonbolt52:55
21:30 Daitokai by Crystal King!
hell yeah
long as fuck not what i expected but none the less a good watch
will you ever do a video on Obsolete?
I could at some point ye. I have some stuff to say about that one.
ok i feel shot wing was my first gundam im still Zeon loyalist and my goufs and zakus prove that
Aside from the time you waste attacking strawmen, its a good video. Stop attacking shadows.
Whats the song at 2:58:04
michel Gonet Eve for Ever 1970, not composed for MSG, but tracks were used at various times in the series and movies as filler music.
Dude. Will you get to 0083? Wait. Are you going to do only UC or will you include the others?
I will get to everything eventually for sure, but I want to review some other stuff in between so i don't burn out on Gundam, so you may need to wait a bit but the answer is yes.
@@argonbolt got it. Cool.
Me who owns 5 different Gunplas: …….
Damn I really enjoyed this. You really know your stuff and not just 0079 and anime. Subbed, glad I found this channel
Depressingly enough, I do know somebody who fell completely into the hole of Zeonic soldiers being sympathetic.
Dude was later banned from a server by mods for openly having *Waffen-SS (Nazi)* quotes on his profile.
Great video!
really disapointed stuido anime freind is not just one guy working out his mothers basement
Yeah no its usually 5 guys in a studio apartment in a trench coat
1:57:32 did you just call Starship Troopers pro military? Bro doesnt understand satire
The book duh fucking doi. I really hope your comment was an ironic joke and not a misinformed pants caught down moment on your part.
@@argonbolt no, you just failed to be clear one time across the whole 3 hours. I hope this mild criticism is constructive. Also, you waste a LOT of time doing "hurr durr I am le strawman" "and THIS is why you are wrong mr straw"
Your videos would hit millions if you were like 20% less bitter and snide.
@@Thenadathor I have to be clear in a video talking about a show from friggen 1979 that I don't mean the movie from 1998 made 20 years later? Seriously dude?
Maybe I wouldn't feel the need to be 'bitter and snide' if people like yourself were just the slightest bit more intelligent.
@@argonbolt no, you arent waiting for everyone to be as smart as you before you stop being snide.
Im telling you that your videos are already well-researched and great, all you'd need is like 20% less condescention and youd blow up like crazy. And if youre capable of not being a cunt to me, I'd help you for free.
Come find me, lets collaborate. Otherwise, go away.
"Why do we still care about UC 0079 Gundam?"
Vladimir Putin: "Well you see it all starts in the Edo period and once all the samurai's are dead and the Meiji restoration happens and after 2 world wars and nuclear bombs and the Westernization of Japan,...."
Putin:"You do know how Gundam is another chapter in the Neo Realist Japanese post war cinema obviously, you have seen Vacuum Zone right?
Tucker:I uh er, no...
Pretty intensive video but I find the direct comparison to the likes of western politicians as Trump/ issues being so one sided regarding Ukraine as a poor comparison at best and eregious at worst- they are nowhere near 1 to 1.
For a series that can be so deeply nuisance and fascinating from multiple angles, shallowness like that is unfortunate and definitely not timeless.
populist politicians simultaneously do have subtle differences and yet are mostly the same. It isn't 1-1 its just a recurring issue we face. I also am not sure what a 'one sided' aspect in regards to Ukraine is? Wars of conquest still happen, Gundam is about that, Ukraine is the biggest current one happening. If you think its too shallow lodge a complaint with god in regards to humanity.
@@elliotyourarobot Because its pretty bluntly Russia continuing its agenda of trying to capture all territory and resources it lost after the breakup of the Soviet Union. So you know, a war of conquest.
@@elliotyourarobot Ukraine was the biggest or Russia was? Your geography may be off. Also that's not how conquest works. There is no 'enough' a more powerful state is more inclined to invade what it sees as weaker neighbors to add to its resources. But more to your question, Ukraine has some of the most fertile crop land in Europe it is one of the main grain exporters for countries like Egypt for example. In addition Ukraine had a lot of the technical factories Russia used during the days of the USSR to construct rockets and missiles among other things. There is also the fact most of Russia's biggest access to the Mediterranean was through ports like Odessa and Sevastapol, mainly through Black Sea naval ports.
@@elliotyourarobot Ah yes, in that case the rest of my points are the same.
@@elliotyourarobot If you seriously believe all that you are a brainwashed fool. Imperialism existed long before America and is neither exclusively western or american. The Russian state as it exists currently is an oligarchic autocracy, in such systems outwards expansion and military glory are of paramount importance to both the head of state(putin) and his aristocracy(the oligarchs) it demonstrates his power and enriches those in power. In this way modern Russia and Tzarist Russia are eerily similar. Putin must routinely do this (as he did with Crimea, Georgia etc) or risk internal attacks from the military and oligarch groups.
If you think Russia gives two shits about 'self sufficiency' you are also the highest fool. It wants its previous cultural and economic dominance. Functionally Ukraine existed as a satellite state for 20 odd years, then when it internally thought it could get a better deal from the West internal strife led to the 2013 demonstrations. The more Ukraine drifted west the more Russia ramped up. It began with Crimea in 2014 and led to what is happening now.
Now don't mistake this as a glowing approval of NATO. Or even of the US, but functionally NATO existed as a 'fuck off Russia' club. Its budget and participation skyrocketed not before Putin attacked, but explicitly afterwards. The west wanted a deescalatory stance because Western states(like the Europeans) don't want military action because it hurts their pocket books. But Putin invaded, and so greatly increased NATO spending by validating the raison d'etre of the group i.e. 'fuck off Russia'. The 'NATO expansion' excuse is a lame duck argument which ignores the history of Putin's actions as a political leader.
For your sake I hope you are just a delusional tankie living in the first world, and not some one who gets to live in those places where the older imperialism is still alive and well. Or idk maybe you are Indian.
Y'know, most everything you just said about Gundam are all the main reasons why Gundam remains my 2nd favorite anime franchise (with VOTOMS being my numeral uno). Sure, there are SOME bits I very much disagree with you on (namely your idolization of Karl Marx of all people, though I could be misunderstanding things a bit), but at the same time, you did this analysis with so much tact and thoughtfulness, Professor Whathisfuckingdumbassface could definitely take notes from ya.
Thank you, the Karl Marx thing wasn't really a value judgement, whether you like or hate Marx, the parallels between Marx and Deikun are pretty strong in how their philosophy was later used to justify expansionist empires.
@@argonbolt Okay, fair enough.
@@argonbolt justify expansionist empires? Like what, for example?
@@user-ze6dx5bl5w The USSR and modern China. Both can make claims about being "the people's republics" but in practice were fairly centralized in terms of who held supreme power.