AUDI E-TRON! | THE TEN 'WORST' THINGS ABOUT IT | SHOULD YOU STILL BUY ONE?
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I’ve owned my 2021 e-tron for a couple of months now and even though I admit the mileage range is lower than most other ev cars on the market, I wouldn’t change it for another. I absolutely love my car! I previously owned a q5 and q7 and BOTH models had tugging seatbelts (so I’m assuming it’s something related to safety or even a glitch they haven’t gotten around to fixing) as for the trunk opening height you can actually set it to you liking ( once it reaches your preferred height hold the lock button on the truck for at least 3 seconds, the car lights will blink and the new height will be set, so every time you open it won’t go above). My model doesn’t have the interior rearview mirrors, it seemed something that would take TOO much effort to get used to. As for everything else most are minor issues, in my opinion and I am as happy with my car as a child with a new toy! Great video, going to watch the best things of the e-tron next!
Glad you’re watching both!
For some reason the ‘worst’ video gets about 10 times the views as the ‘best’ one.
instablaster...
Have had our 2019 E-Tron U.S. Prestige version for 3 months now. We contemplated a Model-X for years but finally decided on the E-Tron. Both are fantastic cars but with different positives/negatives. Our conclusion was/is if you're looking for a high-tech experience and long range, then the Model-X is the way to go. If you're looking for luxury and comfort, and long road trips are not a priority, then the E-Tron is the better option. My two cents on the 10 things presented in the video: 1. Our air conditioning has been more than satisfactory. We've actually been impressed with how quickly it cools the car. My experience has been the opposite of yours. My wife cranks the AC up, and I am freezing most of the time. 2. Rear windows not going all the way down... agree... very annoying. It's the same with the VW Passat my brother owns, and while touted as a 'safety' measure, it is also a design issue. There is not enough room in between the glass and the wheel wells for the window to fully retract. 3. Virtual mirrors. Not allowed in the U.S. and I have not heard good things. 4. Suspension/Handling - As you point out, there are several driving modes to choose from and each is going to have its pros and cons. Driving in Comfort mode differs vastly from Dynamic mode. For a 6,000 lbs car, it actually performs and corners relatively well in the proper mode. The low center of gravity in most EVs is a significant advantage and the E-Tron has some of the largest front brakes I have seen. 5. Seat belt 'tug'. This is a safety feature typical in many high-end cars. The tug is to take away any slack between you and the seat belt in order to avoid additional injury in the event of a collision. 6. Steering wheel shape. I hadn't noticed this in our car until you mentioned it, but I just checked and ours appears to be a perfect circle... so not sure if earlier or later models have different steering wheels. 7. Disappearing parking tickets - haven't had any (or maybe they've been swallowed and we'll be getting a reminder in the mail). 8. Scratchy/cheap paneling. The area you pointed out in the video is a nice leather panel in ours. Must be a different trim level. 9. Efficiency/range - Agreed. Audi is definitely behind in that area. Range was not one of our priorities. Interestingly enough, while Audi claims a 204 mile range (for the 2019 model), we have consistently gotten around 240 miles out of ours. 10. The boot/rear hatch - the rear hatch opening height of most modern cars is easily adjustable to the height of your choosing as is the case with the E-Tron... not only to accommodate your height, but also the height of your garage. Overall, we have been very happy with this car. It is very comfortable, very quiet, and came loaded with all the options (but I do agree with one of the comments... some of these options should be included with the lower trim level given that my brother's Passat has most of them as well.. Porsche is even worse). So far no issues aside from having to replace the rear light assembly which is a know problem with the 2019's. We'll see how it does in the months to come. I hope these details help some undecided buyers to at least test drive as many EV models as they can. There are many positive and negative posts about all EVs, Tesla included... and they will take you on an emotional roller coaster ride as they did with us for the past few years. There is no perfect EV, but there are several great options depending on your personal priorities.
Great summary from some a trusted source (given that you have owned a Model X and the Etron too). Thanks for the insight!
Thanks for such a detailed review!
For some reason, the eTron gets a bit of a hammering.
For balance, I made a best things video but it didn’t get as much traction.. . . th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
Well said! Everybody I see that complains about their EV range and the infrastructure obviously didn't do their research.
Know your driving habits before purchasing its not that hard.
My wife and I are thinking about trading our Q8 for a Etron S.
@@WhatTheFork Thank You. It's been exactly 2 years with the car now. No issues to report and I still look forward to driving it every day... although we only have 7,500 miles logged so far. It's such a comfortable car. One thing to note is that the E Tron's computer tries to learn your driving habits so it can calculate estimated range. My wife has been driving it a total of 3 miles each morning to meet her friends for their morning walk. This has proven to be terrible for the estimated range algorithm since the battery has to prep itself each time for only a 3 mile drive. The range now shows around 100 miles at 80% charge. Longer drives have confirmed this to be a 'false' reading and the true range is still the expected 214 - 240. The dealer said some of this inaccuracy can be avoided by setting the charging timer to finish charging around the time she expects to leave the house, but you have to remember to turn the timer on every night. The inability to automatically set the timer on a 5-7 day schedule (instead of having to manually tell the car to use the timer each night) is the only annoying thing worth mentioning. I hope Audi provides the option in future software updates. Other than that, still very happy with the purchase.
@@jadakjada Wow thanks for the info! I would have definitely wondered why the range was so low. My wife and work from home 100% and most of our trips are short drives because our home is close to a lot of things.
I've been doing slot of research on the Etron and everyone says it super comfortable. We love our Q8 but want to go electric and we were worried we would lose space.
After doing side by side comparison they both have very similar interior space far as leg room goes. We put a deposit on a etron s it will be here next month I'm excited.
You can lower the rear boot
Pull down on the boot against the
Motors so Will feel resistance then
Hold the button on boot for 5 sec or until hazards flash. It will then set to that hight. Hope this helps
Steve, I imagine you can set the opening height of the tailgate. On the ŠKODA Superb you literally pull the tailgate down by hand to where you’d like it to be then press and hold the button you used to close it. After a few seconds it makes a confirmation beep and it’s all set. Only ever opens to that height. If you want to adjust it just repeat the process.
Cameras and screens instead of door mirrors. A solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.
Eating parking tickets is a feature actually.
I've watched videos from actual owners of these things and they truly detest them as when they go wrong, and that seems to be a lot, even Audi themselves are clueless on how to fix them.
I’ve read there’s some major issues with charging problems. I saw one video where the owner couldn’t get the charger to disconnect from the vehicle and had to pop the hood and use some manual release. They said this happens all the time and seemed frustrated to the point they were returning it.
Driven 26k km in my e55.. never had a single issue
The eating ticket 😅 is the same on my A7 2019, back windows the same, air con the same, dashboard was quite noisy but got fixed by Audi Dealership along with some camshaft problems (defects from factory apparently) , the new generation has quite a few things that needs to be reviewed.... as well WIFI on iphone is charging a few seconds then stop, but on positive side the car is powerful, fast (you can feel the difference by the mild hybrid tech) and consume is just amazing low...gonna wait a little before going on a full electric Audi, they still have to make some improvements....
The translation from the French Etron: excrement ⧫ turd. Look it up!!
😆😆 How did they not check it before naming it?
Less than 1% of french know this word
I have a Audi-etron an if you dobbbeltap and then hold the trunk button on the car key down, the trunk will close it self. You can also stop the trunk on the way up and hold the close button a little while and from then on the trunk will always stop at that hight. The last thing you can do is to take your foot under the car and it will automatically close it self.
Thanks Paul! And got balance on the eTron: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
EV Steve I will see it now
I agree with most of the points on the etron. I had one of the earliest cars launched in the UK and eventually got rid of it and got a Model X. On the plus side, the fit, finish and comfort is very high. It shows that 100+ years experience that Audi has in car making. My car had wing mirrors and the one on the left would keep turning off every now and the, the car spent 4 months out of the 7 I had it for in the Garage and they could not sort it out- different story every time- software upgrade/control unit malfunction/ new camera needed etc etc. The car is not road legal if these cameras don’t work properly so I was doing a sweet diesel Q5 loaned by Audi during the period (so much for protecting the environment). Also when driving through heavy rain, the sensors would start malfunctioning so auto control or steering assist would shut down. During winter in London, the car would do 1.7-1.8m per kW which means an effective range of 150m or less. The Tesla doesn’t have the same fit and finish but the tech works perfectly. During summer and early autumn I was still getting 3-3.5 m per kW. Still to go through winter. In a nutshell, Audi haven’t got their tech sorted and the motors are extremely inefficient. Tesla tech+ supercharger network is unbeatable.
You’re spot on!
You’ll like this one th-cam.com/video/WexytVdsSCQ/w-d-xo.html
Key fob boot close update!!
So a few comments have suggested you 100% CAN close the boot with the key fob by holding the boot button for a couple of seconds.
I did try this (as it’s the same as the Tesla) however I was either doing something (repeatedly) wrong, there was a problem with this particular car, or as it was a loaner, it had comfort access turned off for security reasons so maybe that stopped it working as well.
Who knows?
Anyway, for fairness, you should be able to close the boot with the key. (But double check)
Cheers!
I can open and close the tail gate on my E-Tron with my foot, under the bumper... no need to get the key out at all. I don't have that cheap plastic panel in my car, it's leather. A/C works as well as any previous Audi I owned, even in ECO mode... mine also comes with air ionizer and fragrance dispenser. Heads up display, night vision, massage seats, blind spot indicators in the mirrors where they should be, double glazed sound insulated glass, heat pump, etc, etc... all kinds of features not found in a more expensive Tesla X. Thicker, softer Valcona leather, even on the dash, Apple car play, wireless phone charger, voice reminder if I'm getting out of the car and the phone is still inside... and a much quieter interior... basically, this EV is for Audi owners or other luxury vehicle owners that want to try an EV... not everyone is willing to downgrade in luxury, comfort and features, to a Tesla, just to gain a more efficient, more mature (10 year advantage) EV drive train with an available performance option (Audi hasn't released a RS level EV yet).
Btw, you want to know why the rear windows don't go down lower? Walk away from the car a bit, turn around, look at it from the side, notice where the rear wheel arch is located, and imagine the size of the window glass panel moving down, where does it have to stop before it would hit the wheel arch? Yeah... basic logic. SUVs with windows that go down all the way are either much longer or the window is cut into a smaller, more rectangular shape. This is also not an E-Tron issue, it's a very general design issue affecting many cars and SUVs.
Probably the most problematic car on planet earth at the moment....check internet carefully
wonder how bad the ID.3 will be...same company
wait until ID3 owners start to make complaints. We have several problematic ID3 in our rental company
Eating the ticket had me in stitches 😂😂
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Man I'm buying Tesla, all the other EV's really cannot be called state of the art...
They’re bloody epic! th-cam.com/video/WexytVdsSCQ/w-d-xo.html
Tesla is better in every category !! Trust me I have 2 of them.
@@peterp4753 Tesla interior is definitely NOT better.
After test driving the etron and model Y back to back I was disappointed in the etron. It felt like the EV part was an afterthought, performance was weak. I felt like the seats weren’t as comfortable as the Tesla yes I know Audi materials Italian leather etc but overall seat comfort was a win for Tesla. The minimalist interior isn’t for everyone but it’s grown on me as someone who’s owned Audi’s and Porsche previously I’m not looking back.
Audi’s tech feels like the same old but just with some different twists but nothing very innovative.
I agree with some of your dislikes. I own the 2021 Etron sport back. I love the double side charging ports. I agree the back windows need to go down all the way. The miles per kw is really low. I just got my car back from the shop for the front motor going out at 20k miles. The car was in the shop for 90 days for the repair. Found out this is not common repair but Audi has kept it quite to avoid a recall on the motor seal going out. I just purchased the Hyundai IONIQ 5 as my car was in the shop so long. That car has a 330miles per charge with only a 77.4kv battery. So hopefully others will get more miles from the larger batteries.
The rear window issue is prevelant on most cars. Its actually a feature if the rear window rolls down all the way. You can also adjust how high the rear deck lid opens.
Great review. So refreshing to hear a balanced opinion informed by actual experience. Thanks!
Thanks!
There is a ‘10 best things’ as well for balance.
They’re all in here: th-cam.com/play/PLvWIWt_PRaIXGNK5J0ew6Fx20zlfBaiIq.html
@@SteveJulien Thanks, Steve. Love the channel!
Great review!! Very useful! Not just mentioning good stuff!! This is what we all want to see...Thanks!! (subscribed just now)
About the rear boot lid closing button, I can tell you that even the Skoda Karoq has the remote open and close function on it's key....
Don’t forget the amazing massaging seats. Love that feature. Oh and the sound system is beautiful. Love my Etron Prestige
I own an BMW (2018) i3 for a year now. It is the perfect car. It has lots of power, good range, 180km on a full charge, 16-18KWh/100km, it can take less if you go with 100km/h. Perfect for city and for commute on short distances (100km round trip). In the winter the range drops by 20-25%; of course it depends on your driving. I am not passing,I dont drive it in Eco or Eco Pro. I cannot compare it with the Etron, i3 being a smaller car, it was not intended for long journeys like the E-tron, but in my opinion BMW i3 is a perfect choice for a city and short commute. I like it so much that I even buy an 2020 i3s.
I think they’re great! My neighbour has just bought a 2020 i3 so I’m hoping to make some videos with it!
Hi Steve, Love your video. I agree with all your 10 points and happy that you have done a great explanation why, especially with the adaptive cruise control, which I also absolutely love! You might have added then when driving on a straightaway and then coming to a tight corner the car sees the tighter corner and slows down to a bit slower speed and then accelerates through the corner at the right timing to your previously selected speed. One comment though, when using it on a twisting tight corner road I never use it as I prefer to do the slowing down and speeding up on my own and to enjoy the dynamic handling that you would want to enjoy with such a great handling car! Even though I have owned my car for almost 17 months I did learn some new tricks I didn't even know about and I thought I knew everything! Specifically the customization of the rear hatch height! Way to go on mentioning this feature. By the way I have driven it across North America from coast to coast to coast with no issues at all (google my name for lots of info on this trip). I put on 22,383 KM on the car and with my road trips throughout BC and Alberta I now have a total of 44,000 KM. Overall I have only three issues that I have run into where my windshield washer was losing fluid, a faulty sun roof seal and a burnt out tail light which all three issues were taken care of by my local Audi Dealer. Overall I would say I am super pleased with my car love it every time I drive it and don't regret my decision to buying the e-tron at all. I bought it over the model X as the model X was quite a bit more dollars here in Canada but also because I didn't like the Gull wing doors which prevents using a roof rack. Also one of my good friends owns a Model X and in the winter when opening his rear doors all the heat quickly leaves the vehicle and extra energy to reheat the interior takes up battery power not the mention the extra time it takes to get the car back to a comfortable temperature.
Thanks for a very well done review!
Thanks.
Some great points and the e-Tron gets a bit too much stick I think.
As a Tesla driver, the cabin noise (lack of it) and wiper sound are way ahead of any car I’ve been in.
For balance: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
This ones for your Tesla friend! 😉 th-cam.com/video/HxE8UtLj7x8/w-d-xo.html
Hi Steve, The other benefit of the Audi Adaptive speed control is the fact that you have the option to increase or decrease the distance you want to stay behind the car in front of you.
"I'm 6 foot 2 ... I might be 5 foot 8, I can't remember" - lol
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You can program the boot 😮
Love my Etron. These all seem personal choice. I love the reassurance of the seatbelt tightening slightly too
Hi Vini!
You’ll like this one much better.
The ‘10 best things’ seems to get less views.
Cheers.
Steve
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Great video. Nice presentation. Subscribed.
Question: I am trying to decide between the E Tron (40) and the A7 sport back 55 TFSI (petrol.)
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But the list of pros and cons comparing the two is a long one. Much more car for the money with the A7.
Would be interested in your view?
Thanks! I'm an EV guy and drive a Model S so would have to go EV. Now and E-Tron A7. . .
AirCon in my E-tron works fine, and are giving me cool cabin every day. There should be a dobbel "heater" on my model due to be in Norway, but the 5kW should be strong enough to cool the cabin.
Interesting, maybe I’ve just got a duff one. It works really well for heating but above 25 degs C outside, it doesn’t cool that we’ll at all.
@@SteveJulien I know some have complained about it in Norway. I think they have fixed them through service. If I have mine on 17 degrees it gets so cold in my cabin.
I agree on the back door not closing with a click of the button on the fob, it’s annoying! We don’t have the side camera mirrors stateside, but I’ve watched enough complaints over them that I wouldn’t like them too. I personally am VERY happy with my e-tron prestige. I’m wondering how the car feels too top heavy to you, the batteries line the bottom of the car making them very grounded and reduces Leaning while making turns. Our Model X leans more than my e-torn. The range is big down side of the car but I only drive within the city, then we use the model X for everything else. Currently on a road trip driving cross country in the model X as I type this, heading North into negative temperatures! One of my favorite features of my e-tron I’d say is the front massage seats!! Cheers!
A few commenters have said that if you press and hold the tailgate button eventually it will close on its own. The car had gone before I could test it so can’t confirm.
Here’s the sister video for balance: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
@@SteveJulien I’ll try that when I get back!
Not sure if all e-tron vehicles have this, but on my e-tron you can open and close the back door by kicking your foot into the space below the bumper.
I too dislike that seatbelt pull.
The issue you mentioned with the seatbelt isn't just in the E-TRON, I recently purchased a 2019 SQ5 and that is the same . when it goes in for its first service i shall be bringing it up
I think it’s a safety thing. My wife quit likes it but it annoys the hell out of me.
Fingers crossed you can get yours turned off somehow.
I feel with all the electronic braking sensors and warning devices theres no need for it .
@@SteveJulien Good news on this matter , just spoke to Audi Aust and the feature can be adjusted through the Pre-sense system in the MMI or you can just turn it off under the seating tab,which I have just done. Either side can be disabled passenger or drivers :) . Which is great news because I have thought of trading it in ...........
Steve, good video. i am looking for an electric SUV and given that all new models from any manufacturer have a lead time of six months at least, i am considering a Q4 E-Tron 40. I think it has the best balance between range and power. there are barely-used ones in the market.
however, would love your opinion. we do long holidays about 2-3 times a year where we drive 300+ miles and pre-pandemic, i used to do 200 miles a week, so range is important.
Thanks!
I think it’s a great option.
It will charge fast on a road trip but I think there’s and ‘option’ for even faster charging.
Here’s the best 10 things for balance, 😂 th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
Hey Steve , for the last thing, you can close it, but you have to hold on the bottom until it closes 😉
I own one of these. Edition One: Only 900 made world wide. 9K miles as of 1/24/24. It is the bomb. I drive it just to drive it. I only paid $37K out the door
It’s a great car: AUDI E-TRON! | THE TEN BEST THINGS ABOUT IT | IS IT RIGHT FOR YOU?
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Good video Steve, thanks 👍 Got one coming in November so was interested to see the negatives - seem relatively minor so all good 😄
Yes, it’s a great car!
I’m even getting used to the mirrors.
Very comfy, well built and super quiet.
As a Tesla driver, I can’t believe how quiet the wipers are! 😂
On some vehicles,you can program the maximum the boot will open. see if yours is capable of this too.
Yes it does!
For balance, it’s got some fantastic points as well: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
Try to holding the key Buton to close the lid....That’s the Way in the Q7
Loving your work Steve. Keep it up!
I actually noticed the issue with the parking ticket on my car. That was super annoying to me too :-D
Isn't a Tesla Model S cheaper and like about twice as good?
Yes it a little cheaper and a lot more fun!
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Yes it is, like 10 times better in everything !
After 3 years of multiple quality issues, despite my first 2016 Model X being repurchased and then even more problems with the 2017 I thought had to be better, countless arguments with incompetent service techs, and unsavory decisions without the owner eventually able to choose options, I am DONE WITH TESLA. Even tried the Model Y but the crappy screen on the M3 and MY sucks & is basically unsafe. Looked at the 2019 eTron, but it just didn't justify the cost. Maybe the 2021 Sportsback is improved, or perhaps the Q8. Too bad VW f-upped the Diesel option for the U.S., as that TC'd 6-cyl engine in the Q7, Cayenne, and Touareg was awesome, powerful, and economical.
At 8:00 try to hold down the button for the boot lid on the key fob and it'll shut...
I tried that a few times (Same as Tesla and my old X5) just didn’t seem to work. Either my error, car error or down to the fact that a few functions were disabled on the car as it was a loaner.
Good video! Some scratchy plastics? I'm sure I’ve heard similar for some of the trim on the Mercedes EQC. I guess this is where the likes of Nissan and Hyundai may find it easier to transition from their ICE offerings to EV’s because there’s already a lower expectation for feel and quality of materials. Mercedes, BMW, VAG already have a high bar so to save on weight/costs they’re not gonna be able to cut as many corners without being found out.
i don't see a problem with them using cheaper materials in out of the way places, i think its just nitpicking. I'd not be impressed if they used it in very visible places that you have to touch though.
*HI, you close trunk by holding the middle botton*. You can also open all windows with remote by holding unlock button and close them by holding the lock button. Hope that helps, and you gotta admit that beside its few problems it's a really good car.
Thanks!
Yes, it’s a lovely car: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
Looking to go electric next year. Like the etron. What are their servicing costs and intervals? Any ideas? Liked your videos
Hi.
It it depends on manufacturer really.
Our Tesla doesn’t have any service intervals/costs.
Our eGolf is 2 years/20,000 miles.
In theory, it should be much cheaper to service but I think some dealerships just make it up! 😂
Funny in my Model 3, the AC is always freezing even setting it warmer. But with the glass top the upper part of the car stays hot, I got sun screen protectors front and rear, that solved the problem. If I were you, I’d trade that car in for a Model Y, superior to the Audi. Only thing the Model Y has a complete glass roof. That could be the only negative I could think of for you, test drive one on a hot day and see what you think. 👍🏻👍🏻
Same in our Model S. Cold feet, especially in the winter.
Looking forward to Model Y coming out, although with the S, we’re more likely just to get a 3
If you manually move the boot lid to where you want and then press hold the boot closing button on the car, then it will open to that level every time
Here’s my top 10 things, which seems to get watched a lot less for some reason: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
To your last point, try double-clicking and hold the remote button down instead of releasing straight away. It took me forever to figure that trick out on my Q3!!
Thanks!
@@SteveJulien Did it work?..
Alas it’s gone now so I can’t check. I’m sure it will though.
Steve, great video. Been driving my E-Tron 50 Technik Quattro for two weeks. It’s the basic model, great car however, just to let you know for a £60k car, I want to add a few more disappointing non-features where cars half the price include in their spec. Audi been penny pinching with the spec on this model. No wireless charging; no adaptive cruse control; no usb points for rear passengers; no cup holders in rear arm rest; no tinted rear windows; no foot wave for opening boot; even the indicator turn signal is standard not the sliding led lights you get on modern cars. A tad disappointed with Audi.
That is a bit stingy of them.
The 55 Quattro I’m in doesn’t have rear cup holders either!
I do really like the comfort and cabin soundproofing.
The wipers are also silent! (I have to turn the stereo up in my Tesla when they’re on 😂)
Interestingly, my ‘worst things’ videos do much better than my ‘best things’ videos. This video is outperforming the one you’ve watched. People are very positive about the eTron.
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7:45 are you hitting the lock button or the hatch button? You should be able to shut the hatch with the remote (NA versions at least do).
Definitely the hatch. Maybe it was just this one with the problem. Who knows?
EV Steve u need too hold the button for like 3sec than the hatch will close
Thanks! I’m fairly sure I tried that as that’s what I do with the Tesla.
I’ve either not done it right or it was disabled. The e-Tron I had, had confirm access disabled to maybe that was also disabled.
I’ll pin a comment to the top so people can see it.
Cheers!
EV Steve I dont know if u have instagram ? I could make a video. My father had the sportback etron.
Thanks for pointing a few issues with this car , i hope audi take these in consideration, the gap on the dash is unacceptable. I love it when people who won a new car pin point the flaws of the car when it's a new model.
Great Video, as always. I love my Audi E-Tron; one of your videos convinced me to get it. Cameras are different, and I like them; the seat belt is reassuring. The range is a killer but can be a pain, and I don't understand why the E-Tron GT has the same weight and battery size and has a higher claimed range. Also, Porsche released an update that gives all its electric vehicles a longer range, so Audi, please do the same; I'm sure you've got it up your sleeve. You've made an incredible car, so give us a chance to enjoy it and want to keep it
The e-Tron it still the most comfortable car ive ever driven. The interior cabin quality is also first class!
@@SteveJulien shame they can’t give us a few miles
Interesting. I am always get cold when running aircon in my e-Golf (and it works fast). And I usually drive in Eco mode (reduces aircon power). Maybe it is just me or is USA spec e-Golf somehow different?
It was 56C in Death Valley the other day. Not something you'd see in Europe.
Thanks for sharing!!.....
Cheers! And for balance: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
pretty sure you can adjust the height for opening the trunk. you can certainly do it on other Audi models
Thanks! I also made a ‘best things’ video, but less people have watched it for some reason.
th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Steve, Count yourself lucky that you have only experienced minor issues with your Etron. Public beware of buying one of these cars , I love Audis and have owned 15 including several A8s . As a fan of the brand I changed my A8 for an etron Launch edition thinking it I was doing the right thing in terms of environmental and sustainable purchasing. Initially I loved it , comfortable and everything I would expect from an Audi , good tech and a pleasure to drive. Sept 2021 there was a problem with charging so it had to be recovered and it has been in the garage ever since , the dealer is unable to fix Ito and Audi Uk have been very poor at supporting the dealer. Repair costs will be astronomical , they tell me that they have spent over 100 hours of tech time trying to fix it, I am not sure the rate that would be charged for an etron tech but they are the top rate so probably £200 an hour , they have replaced several components none of which fix the problem , if this car develops faults like this out of warranty it will very quickly be uneconomic to repair .Just imagine a labour bill of £20k plus parts. I have only done 5400 miles in the car which was £75 K list , now the garage said they cannot buy it back faulty so it is worthless , fixed I may get 50K back on it . So after 9 months of ownership and 5300 miles it is a financial disaster . Because the car was more than 6 months old when the fault developed Audi Uk are playing hardball and refusing to replace the car as a rejection. They are not sharing with me the technician’s report from the dealer , detailing time spent and parts , there is a code of silence when it comes to putting anything in writing . Ultimately this is becoming a very expensive problem to rectify and it feels like I will be left with a problem car , the dealer is full of platitudes but not a lot else and Audi UK are not doing the right thing by a really loyal customer. The dealers are saying of the record that some faults are developing that they are struggling to fix , insufficient tech expertise and poor Audi back up and massive costs are the elephant in the room.
Sorry to hear all of this, what a nightmare.
I am just hoping that someone at Audi UK actually takes responsibility for the problems , the residuals on these cars are going to be terrible if they do not sort out issues for owners . No wonder that the general advice is only PCP these cars . People I talk to are enthusiastic about EVs for all the right reasons , but it feels like the worst purchase I have ever made. Over the last 12 months values of used cars have been really strong , mine looks like a complete car crash at the moment.
That 2009 Kia comparison got me lol!
The airconditioning is off in the video. The car is set in auto mode with the airconditioning off. The button should be red or green (eco mode) But yes the car has issues, some are already fixed some not.
Don’t you just hold the boot key button down and it lowers? It’s does that in the q7
Like your videos. A lot. DIFFERENT. But in a good way. Cheers, keep up. (Had Etron, returned it. Regret. Looking for another one.)
My wife would freak at the height of the rear boot lid closing button. She's only 5'6'
Haha!
Here’s the sister video which shows you how to adjust it fir her. th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
Steve, have you traded the Model S in for the Etron?
Oh no! Waiting (and can’t wait) to get the Model S back. Details to follow over the next few weeks 😉
@@SteveJulien hahahaha ok no worries
Love these videos.
I don't think the video/camera wing mirrors look good either.
They’re not the best, full review on them coming in a couple of weeks.
@@SteveJulien I like the concept and that they are aerodynamic but it has to be a good implementation and should work in all conditions including rain/sun etc. I also feel they could have improved the looks of it and also colour matched it so it does not look like an afterthought.
I am surprised the difficulty of reaching the charge port with rapid charger cables did not make your list.
Mine had two charge ports which I thought was standard but it’s an options extra (at least in the UK)
Only a type 2 one side so I wonder why not CCS both sides? Surely, if you’re putting a charge port it, the CCS bit isn’t much more work.
closing the lid u need the full keyless key system.
Are you hearing a boom sound from the suspension on imperfect roads?
I didn’t, no. It was all very smooth.
@@SteveJulien Thanks! mine is like Thud Thud THUUUD. Built-in sub bass music.
The ride and insulation were excellent. I wonder is it’s broken?
@@SteveJulien They told me it's normal, but I wonder.. Here's a thread that includes some audio examples: www.audiworld.com/forums/audi-e-tron-232/rear-suspension-noisy-2995016/
Some people hear it, some don't. It's a shame because I hear it loud and clear. Never had that problem in other EVs.
We test drove the Tesla, I Pace and this all on the same day to keep them fresh and more easily comparable. We went with the I Pace and are very much satisfied with our choice.
I’ve not driven an iPace but think they look great and reviews on fit and finish are generally very good!
@@SteveJulien A piece of fine British coach making AND a worry free electrical system and drive train.
A winter range of the 55 of just 320 km (measured in Scandinavian winter conditions) is a big joke. All Ranges under 750 km (in winter conditions!) is a joke!
👹Steve brilliant video. I can't wait to get into one. Don't worry about the tickets👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thanks! For some reason (i'm not complaining) this video gets many more views than this one: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
@@SteveJulien My theory is it's a form of FOMO: most people can't afford an e-tron, so they'd much rather hear why the thing they can't afford is bad than why the thing they can't afford is awesome.
It would be interesting to find out if people doing love/hate videos on other pricey cars see a similar pattern.
It's great that Audi are embracing EVs, and we should applaud them for this. However most of the issues here are not related to the EV nature of the vehicle, and things that Audi should get right as an experience car maker. I went EV in September 2019 with a BMW i3, overall I really like the car, but it too has some niggles that BMW should have done a better job on. Tesla are making all the legacy auto makers look lazy, the only problem for me is that all the Teslas look ugly to my eyes, purely subjective of course.
Your last point, hold the trunk button on the key about 2sec, then, surprise...
Hi!
Not on this one. See pinned comment for more details.
Here’s more e-Tron videos th-cam.com/play/PLvWIWt_PRaIXGNK5J0ew6Fx20zlfBaiIq.html
Press the ... dots and set max a/c. It will freeze you .
Did you try the iPace?
Not yet but would LOVE to!
Had 3 Consultant colleagues who got an ipace all broke down on road. I have an etron, apart from range it's good. One issue is charge point system lock error, audi technicians who are trained to work on EVs are scarce... Waited 2 month s yo book in to resolve. Still waiting.
@@16egerton Broke down or ran out of battery?
Ha ha ha haaaaa!! Dasboard that eats tickets!! Steve you actually had me laughing out loud!! 🤣🤣🤣
😂 😂
Some of the things you complain about are features IMHO and
some you can set in the MMI - sad you didn't read the manual before wining. (In ex setting the boot opening height.)
The stretching of the seat belts is a safety feature - surprising but really nothing annoying. Of course my personal point of view. Same with the stearing wheel, very comfy.
Maybe depends on how big hands the driver has.
Rear door windows not going down all the way, I agree, really bad solution by Audi.
Anyway, all in all, this is by far the best built and most quiet and comfortable car I have ever driven.
Handling is fantastic with correct settings for the adaptive air suspension.
If accelerating in 4 seconds 0-100 km/h is most important and 5,7 isn't fast enough for you, sure, by a Tesla.
Air condition works great in my 55, even on very hot days.
Thanks Dodo,
You’ll like this one: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
And this one: th-cam.com/video/HxE8UtLj7x8/w-d-xo.html cheers!
@@SteveJulien You're forgiven, Steve. Perhaps I also overreacted... ;) Probably because I love my e-tron so bloody much.
I wanted to call you a "Tesla fan Boy"! - Seems like I'm en "e-tron fan boy"...
Anyway - Teslas are awesome. The technology, interfaces, servers etc are years ahead of Audis, I admit that without discussion. Audi are actually bad at these things - still...
But build quality - the best.
Cheers
/Dodo
Dodo Nalepa haha! We’re both Fan Boys!
There is a Video from a French Audi Driver in englisch on TH-cam. He has ALL Problems the Display con show to the driver !!!
Numb is the best single word to describe the audi e-tron....
I've just finished watching another video about etron, if you think you have problems check his out "audi etron". He has so many problems that he has to take Audi to court. I've wished him good luck. Maybe you guys should get together!
Yes I watched his videos, Audi should 100% give him a new car or refund.
Oh, I enjoyed this video very much. Plain and simple, e-tron sucks !! Now everyone, buy TESLA MODEL Y OR X !!!!!!! YEEEEEEYEEE!!
HAHAHAHA......
The video has definitely quite the quality. However, there are some things that I don’t get. I mean the virtual mirrors are optional, at least they are in Europe. Also did you test drive the etron? Not that it’s specifically important, but some things seem to be quickly realised such as the back windows. Other than that I think that you are totally right.
My daily driver is a Tesla Model S but alas it got rear ended and they lent me an eTron.
Love the e-tron might be my next car. I think with the boot opening height you can programme it to open to lower height 🤔
It’s a good’n but not the most engaging.
Yes, you can set the height of the boot.
I’ve got 4 more e-Tron videos coming out in the next few weeks.
Here’s the things I really like: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
@@SteveJulien I have an A6, (E tron Vorsprung on order) and have coded it to allow closing from the remote as well. Very simple on the A6 and I will be able to confirm if this is possible on the E Tron soon! :)
I’ve been driving a Tesla the last 3 years and following all the EV news. Just buy a Tesla ! They are way ahead on everything, batteries, motors, inverters, software. Something else; when you buy just an EV , you are basically buying old technology, as in flip phone. All Tesla’s are are connected to the internet and have OTA updates, they are smart cars. Save yourself some headaches.
It’s not good enough it’s over $160k in Australia and it’s way over what its should be
Great review Steve! That steering wheel omg!
I pretty much disagree with his inputs…I sell Audi’s, and I purchased an Etron Quattro myself. I love everything about the car, just wish it was at least six inches shorter. A must have, a truly luxurious feeling.
You might like this one more: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
My ioniq does 5miles/kWh.
You don't say anything about the costs...what happens when the batteries worn out? In a diesel if the turbo goes out then you replace the turbo, in a reg engine a pipe bursts you replace the pipe which is not too much trouble but when the batteries for this E tron worn out then what? What would be the cost? How long these batteries run for before they go bust? 2 years? 3 years?
I think Audi offer an 8 year 100,000 mile warranty on the batteries, they are very robust.
I don‘t think your comment on efficiency is fair. When comparing to the iPace the e-tron only consumes
Hi Marcus,
I was hoping for more efficiency from the car.
I’ve got a range test coming out in the next few weeks and a direct comparison with my Model S. (An X would have been better but I don’t have one)
Cheers Steve
th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
SIX parking tickets? 😳
Everybody out here is wondering how much does it cost to charge these vehicles no one mentions it like for a full charge $20 $30 $40
Hi Ronnie,
It’s about £17 per 1000 miles ($21USD) home charging with the right tariff and varies from free to quite expensive for paid public charging.
We recently drove to Paris and back in our Tesla, about 1,000 miles for £3.50 ($5 USD).
Here’s the data for the home charging, I’m sure you’ll have similar where you are.
We save about 90% compared to our fuel price.
th-cam.com/video/cmSsG-DNEVQ/w-d-xo.html
All the best!
I also find it is about 10% of the cost of a equivalent petrol/diesel car. Ie in my case a T-M3 compared with a 60mpg diesel passat which was my last car. So if you are used a large petrol/diesel SUV you will cost you 10% in an e-tron. if you are used to an efficient petrol/diesel and go to an efficient EV saloon car (like Tesla) then you will see a 10% cost - I get 4.6 miles/kWh T-M3.
I would like to add another point, "how much does it cost to full charge your car" does not make sense to EV owners. You see, we plug in our cars over night so that we effectively have a full (90% for reasons) every morning. So you don't fill your car - you just top it up ; every morning my car has a 90% charge and 300 miles available. This is an entirely different concept to a ICE car where you try to avoid going to the petrol/gas station until say 50-100 miles left, then you fill it to full.
That is why our answers (EV Steve and mine) both say - it costs 10% since we don't ever fill our cars - that is not relevant except maybe 1% for journeys where you are going a long way. It is a very different way of thinking about "fuelling" your car. As an EV driver, my car always has 300 miles available to me every morning. It is like the comment, "how long does it take to charge your car", I will say 30 seconds at most - cos that is how long it take me to plug in my car - then unplug it next morning. Even on a long journey - it is still 30 seconds - since I will walk away, get a coffee, go for a pee, maybe some food - and magically my car is full of electricity; being a Tesla I don't have to use those stupid apps or RFI cards.
Did you know that standard ISO15118 has been around since 2014 - that would allow ALL electric cars to work like Tesla charging - plug and go... sigh !
And leakage / and paint / and mirrors clog up / and and ... pff and meh.
Actually the youtuber "Audi Etron" mentioned a lot. So your video compliments on his one.
I’ve watched his videos, poor chap. They really need to give him his money back or a new car!
EV Steve Yes.
5 miles per kWh in a egolf? Are you really getting 180 miles of range on a 36 kWh battery? That’s better than any ev on the road isn’t it?
Hi! The useable battery is about 32kWh.
In the year we’ve owned it, the worst range has been 100 miles (-5c in the snow and sleet) and the best 150 miles at about 22 degs and perfect driving conditions.
Most e-tron owners are complaining that their SUV spends half its life in the dealers, failing to get problems ranging from electronic failures to leaks fixed.
100% correct. It sucks, so is Volkswagen !
£70 000 is a lot of money and these problems highlighted are not acceptable, surely Audi is taking a mick
It’s not perfect, but this video will give you some balance: th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
Bro i need some suggestions
why not the Tesla X?
Just need to get my hands on an X to do some reviews.
Not with those rear doors - Tesla can't get them fixed permanently. Wait till Berlin is making MY. That will be the best build quality of any Tesla, with a paint job to match.
@@67daltonknox Interesting.. since I own a 2017 Model X. Can you inform me what problems I should be having? Haven't had any issues.. door gaps are perfect and no issues with paint. What issues should there be?
@@1905934 You should visit the school round the corner from my place. It has a one lane, walled in drop off line. Twice a week it is reduced to chaos because one of the parent's X rear door will either not open or not close. Quite amusing, so long as you're not a parent in a hurry.
@@67daltonknox No issues here in 3yrs...
Whining on pretty high level to my opinion.
The efficiency truly is not the best when going higher speed but cW, as main contributor, is listed in the specs and known prior to buying.
Oh dear. . . Kullat, I think you'll like this one much better!th-cam.com/video/7PplpuGC4F4/w-d-xo.html
@@SteveJulien How about this th-cam.com/video/IOPFiR4pIhc/w-d-xo.html
A lot of people have linked me to this poor chap, hopefully Audi give him a replacement or refund. He’s obviously got a BAD eTron. I did over 1,000 miles in the one I had and didn’t experience any of the problems he’s had.
@@SteveJulien Yes hope too that Audi gives him a replacement or refund. Would be positive PR for Audi. Sad to see he needs to build up lots of pressure.
I do have the Audi e-Tron and my car is in the dealer every week :|
😧 sorry to hear that.
@@SteveJulien it was a wrong purchase! When I bought it they told me 100% full charge would give me 250 miles. When I got it it give me 201, I told them they said you have to use it and that will increase. So I listened to them. And couple months later it went to 191 miles and then 187 miles with 100%! The guy told me some people have 100 miles with 100% charge and that is normal ! No that’s not normal!
Here’s my range test, 200 miles is where it’s at: th-cam.com/video/YHYCQkc0d8U/w-d-xo.html
PS: that’s good weather range, it will drop when it gets cold.
Yep at 4:03 that seat-belt clamped you in...how annoying...