Game Theory: The Forgotten War of Minecraft (Minecraft 1.19 Update)
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With the Minecraft 1.19 update going up, I thought it was time to return to the mystery that is the sculk, the mysterious discs, and how they BOTH connect to the Warden. Today, we are focusing our eyes and ears on Disc 5. We are going way, WAY back in the history of Minecraft for this one, Theorists! Hold on to your diamond sword!
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Ancient Builders: We're saved! The Warden freed us!
Warden & Skulks: We wouldn't say freed, more like... under new management!
Yeah
Why
We live in a world where disney kids movies always start with someone dying
PG 13 being horrifiying
And Kid friendly games having disturbing stories
R/facepalms
*sculk
A block game with this much lore
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foppa
Dont read my name😏
I need lore
Consider this: When a mob dies near a Skulk Catalyst it spreads more skulk and ancient cities are covered in it. You could even say... a populations worth.
And the patches of skulk leading to the city are the remains of the dead builders and maybe even some dead wardens
Ooohh man
Or skulk could be a form of mold that festers from dead organisms, so yeah they could be the remains.
Makes sense there are skulls in the city
@@ewangray8111nope, you literally see the souls being absorbed lol
You know, that would explain why End portal is positioned as it is. It's set so anything that comes from the other side falls down into lava to prevent another breach like the Warden.
I think that they would not actually just fall on lava. It all depends on the direction you enter it from and how much momentum you have, right?
Gotta disagree. We know the two things needed to make a portal are dense blocks (end portal blocks) and heat/energy. The lava was meant as a means of lighting it
though, the warden is immune to lava and fire damage
@@Sandra-zu4ff well they probably didnt research the warden and thought lava should do the trick
@@Hund335 Like we used to do till realize Lava does nothing.
The reason why the ancient builders weren’t able to defeat the wither is because they forgot the combat system changed after the 1.9 update
@King Longface finally! Your dad's back with milk.
Wait it did? When? I'm playing on bedrock and it isn't really any different.
Edit: Someone already explained the difference and that Bedrock didn't receive the update.
lmao
@@Daltonisntabot Yeah, Bedrock didn't exist when the old combat system was still used.
@@Daltonisntabot bedrock doesnt have a combat change its just java that has it
Mojang: *"Opening the Warden Portal is a bad idea."*
Mod Makers: *"That Sign can't stop me because I can't read."*
There’s literally already a deeep dark dimension mod making that portal work for it is just natural
“That’s a lot of words, to bad I ain’t reading them”
Is it just me or are we ignoring that mojang said that thing isn't a portal
@@justarandomalt255 did they though?
Trust me, it's basically gonna be the Deep End
I hope they don't add a new dimension; instead I hope that add more invasive creatures coming through from that dimension. I WANT ELDRITCH HORROR IN MY CUBE GAME
It would be cool if we could go in that dimension, and we can explore the dimension and maybe even fight a new boss. I feel Minecraft is lacking on its bosses and mobs, maybe even we can have more added on to that dimension as the entities “warp” and evolve and we have to create new weapons to defeat them
Well I do hope they add a new dimension. There could be stuff coming from that portal if active anyway, just like zombified piglin come from active nether portals. But a sculk dimension with a boss fight themed around that would certainly help the game by setting another goal.
Lmfao
It's better to add the new dimension after some others mobs from the dimension. The lore of the dimension is huge ans epic, It would be cool if they add new one to explore also it would be really cool if they add more specialised weapons and armor
Just play terraria
I’m a 30-year-old man and this is my third Minecraft lore theory video in a row. It’s making me want to play Minecraft, but it’s Sunday and I’ve got work tomorrow.
sad
Hey quick question! Did you ever get around to playing minecraft?
@@trpororo5452 yeah and I hated how difficult it is.
@@tylerchristensen1484hey maybe you could try easy mode/peaceful mode also could you tell what was hard about it?
@@SmellyToesMmmm Peaceful mode is boring to me.
Warden: drops sculk catalyst
Players: That isn't very rewarding
Matpat:LOREEEEEE
lore overload: self destructing in 5 seconds
Lore is mats only prize in the warden lol
Lukethenotoble:not worth risking my
hardcore world
It's not supposed to be rewarding, because warden isn't supposed to be killed.
Mmmm. Sweet juicy lore
From cave noises to Sculk shriekers, who knew that a simple block game could introduce the most disturbing noises ever.
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Now imagine if they added in ocean noises O.o
Yea well
I don't think that the ancient builders fled to the end because of the Warden. The Warden is just too stationary for the ancient builders to ditch an entire dimension. If the shulk only grows when things die around it, then one could simply close off all access from the ancient cities and booyah! No more Warden. I think that some of the ancient builders built the end portal before the Warden killed the Wither. There is no implication that the ancient builders stuck together. We've seen the drowned civilization staying away from the rest, as well as the not-so-ambitious relatives of the ancient builders, the villagers. If the first experimental portal brought the nether, and the next brought the Warden, who the heck would be stupid enough to make a third portal? I think that the civilization that became the Endermen were completely oblivious of the Warden's existence. Those who tried to live in piece with the Warden either was the cause of more shulk being created via devoured souls or fled to the caverns which would have almost certainly killed them. This also still leaves the question of how the shulk got up to the broken nether portals. The Minecraft legends game will probably be stuffed to the brim with LOOORRREEE! as MatPat calls it. A theory for another day my friends, a theory for another day...
They fled because of the Wither
... Have you been listening to the video? Lol they had to LIVE with the warden when it escaped. That's why wool is placed after the fact. That's why we hear the Wither Die when the Warden comes out the portal they thought was a safe zone
I personally think the ancient builders split up in two when they were trying to escape the wither. One that went to the end and the others that stayed in the over world and made the ancient cities
@@liilxc7596 ye that's what I think too. I think different groups split up in to different colonise and started to build their own portals. Which eventually ended up in the creation of the end portal and the warden portal or whatever its called. But the question is. How many of these colonies were there? And if so, how what other portals did they build. Must be a lot of dimensions in minecraft. The end portal colonies must of been completely oblivious to the warden portal colonies existence. And I find it hard to believe that there were only two colonies.
@@DeathHelper420 The wither can easily kill the Warden. It's ridiculous to believe the Wither just rocked up one day too.
@@theo1856 Obviously some outlier created the Wither, possibly Steve far before the events of Minecraft?
Also, I'm assuming the wither had already been attacked a few times to try to save the city, the warden came outta the portal and saw this random thing making tons of noise and beat the living hell out of it.
To further the theory of the sculk being sentient, I noticed that if you listen close to the audio of breaking the sculk, you can almost hear a scream
Maybe the sculk is sentient because it's absorbed and torn apart souls mixed into a parasitic lifeform?
I agree with both of you
I think the Skulk is from another dimension where it's a hivemind. It got taken over into the Overworld while the portal is open and started to get experimented on so it started to act to protect itself and try to grow stronger which lead to the creation of the Warden as a last ditch effort to do that @@DoggosGames
Minecraft community: The Warden is terrifying, kill it
Mojang: Try not to kill it
Warden: I'm just trying to protect my species
Well, the skulk is an invasive species if is theory is correct.
Redstone community: Makes a farm
@@idoodooo3988 also the red stone community: im so stupid
Warden: bro wtf did I do
The one bot in this comment doesn't think I won't report all 13 comments.
Dang, it just shows us that even if the end was a bad place to be in, if the warden is that powerful, that new dimension must be extremely dangerous. If they went through the portal, it most definitely would have killed them.
Aye, they wouldn't have lasted a month, and even that's with a lot of preparation
Imagine The Warden is powerful enough to kill the Wither AND kill off an entire race of ancient demigods all by himself but he's STILL one of the WEAKEST things in his home dimension...😱
@@zombifiedpariah7392 or maybe the sculk is one of the more powerful things in the dimension, since it's invasive it probably has a fairly strong foothold in that dimension
It’s not a portal! There is no proof
@@Beefman0010 the whole video is proof that its a portal
It would be awesome if in the future you could activate the portal and then something just absolutely awful comes out. Like a new boss mob.
A mod does a similar thing, the mod Deeper and Darker adds a new dimension that you can enter through that unused portal by killing the warden, go check it out!
Uhhhh idk man I’m just a villager
Since we already have the Ender Dragon Respawn Mechanic,
I'm quite confident that they could create this new boss one day!
How strong would the boss of the warden be? Ridiculously strong
Its interesting to think that the builders didn't escape to the end to escape the wither; but rather because the thing that killed it was coming for them too. It adds in an entire section of story in between the 2 main theories
The "sirens" are probably goat horns being used as a signal, likely for whomever is on the other side of the door to pull the lever and open it up. The "Phantoms" are also probably the Wither, given the pitch and tone.
Before this video I thought those sirens were the warden but this actually makes a lot of sense cause they're new additions
This makes more sense, ngl.
If I recall correctly there's a chance for the Redstone experiments door underneath the portal to require a loud noise to be played in order for it to open for a moment. Could be related.
@just i c e Don't spam.
I don't know. To me, the 'Phantom sounds' sound a lot like walking or breaking soul sand to me.
Theory: the warden actually has the spirits of 5 children in it and the ancient city is a pizzeria
Edit: I just wanted to watch a game theory video then I found out that not only did this get over 20k likes and 483 replies, but it got into a video 🗿🗿🗿
five nights in the deep dark
oh no
@Amber Heard 🅥 DON'T Click on the link, it doesnt lead to YT plz
*it's been so long intensifies*
Nahhh
Funny sidenote: The ONLY piece of music that plays in the Deep Dark, and by extent, the Ancient Cities, is called 'Ancestry'
Innnterestinnng
So the player is the descendant of the ancients?
@@Tobythefirst1 perhaps the final creation of the builders, a clone of their best builder but with the power of immortality (or a failed version for hardcore :P)
@@peabrain6872. That weird word translated to "internal interest".
While I have been working on restoring an ancient city in Minecraft I noticed that skulk, if you look close enough at the texture, appears to have the souls of animals in it and it made me think that, along with how skill spreads, exp may be similar to soul remnant, and the warden may not be just a defence, but the way that skulk was able to cover a city leads me to believe that skill may be similar to a carnivorous plant, and the warden it's cool for gaining the exp it needs to spread
Tool*
Builder 1: “Remember when we built a creature out of bones and souls that is causing our extinction?” Builder 2: “Yeah what about it?” Builder 1: “Let’s do it again”
This was literally copy lol
true!
This is logic.
If we cause the extinction of an extinction we survive
You think that Mojang has been watching?
So many bots
This theory makes alot more sense when you consider that ruined Nether portals seem to have bits of the Nether seeping in around them, implying portals left open long enough will begin to transmutate the world around them into the world within (I imagine the reasons player portals dont is due to age/Mojang not wanting peoples builds ruined by such a thing)
Ehem, the ruined Nether portals, Bastion remnants and zombified Piglins is what left of Piglin-Village war from the new game Minecraft Legends
@@LukiKruki That doesnt exactly contradict my point that stuff can come out of the nether portal (and other portals) and corrupt the landscape, does it?
@@LukiKruki there's no way to definitively say which games are and aren't canon to the main Minecraft "lore" (If they even have a set story.) Likely none of it, as the games they make could all be considered spin-offs.
The definition of a spin off according to Merriam-Webster is, "something that is imitative or derivative of an earlier work, product, or establishment". These games, such as Legends and Dungeons are imitative in the sense that they replicate the art style, by using the same assets, and are derivative due to their origin being from Minecraft. Spin-off do normally take place in the same universe/world of the previous media, but can often be like marvel's "What if" in which they are a non-canon hypothetical event.
All that aside, the fact that dungeons uses mobs not in Minecraft means that there's an evident divide between the two. Similarly, the trailer for Legends uses several creatures not in Minecraft. For these games to be canon to whatever semblance of lore there is, things would need to be a lot more uniform
ngl this would be so cool as a toggleable option, kinda like terraria
It can also be that the reason the player portals doesn't do it is because the other world itself is not as powerful as it used to be
12:46 is officially the COOLEST part of the audio omfg i love the sounds of reversed glass breaking and the soul's echoey whispering
I really wanna see someone animate scenes based on these theories
Disk 5 serves as a warning about opening a new portal.
Modders: So I took offence to that and built a whole new world based on that theory
Disk 5: Says what happens when you add new dimensions
Aether supporters: I'll ignore that.
Modders are doing gods work lol
@@CeraphineLuna nice pun
@@manpersonthehuman2681
Aether for life
LMAO did they really? If no one has yet, I kinda want a modder to make a mod for 1.19 that gets you to the dimension the Warden is from.
Here's another point to make. Consider this: the most common animals and lifeforms in an ecosystem are plants and prey. It has to be this way due to the concept of entropy (as you've talked about in the past). If the warden came from another dimension and considering how easy it is to spread, it may suggest that the Skulk and the Warden are not near the top of whatever food chain exists on the other side, as well as how quickly the warden passed through. If the portal opening briefly was enough for the Warden to immediately cross through, it suggests that it's near the bottom of that world's food chain, hence why it was able to find the portal so easily. It didn't need to find it cause it's so prevalent in its world. If the Warden's native dimension becomes accessible, I expect to find a world that is far too dangerous for anyone, to survive, putting other dimensions like the Nether and the End to shame in terms of deadliness.
Excellent logic! I’m forced to hold back my hopes, however, until the devs reopen the possibility of another dimension.
Now if that happens, Minecraft’s gonna have a new final boss, and I personally do not wanna know what that might be.
@@universalisfan969 red dragon maybe?
@@universalisfan969 maybe a skulk dragon
I like how you think, however here's a differing idea inspired by yours: we know the skulk is an invasive species. What if it took over its dimension, killing anything getting too close to its sensors, which provides it xp/souls to grow?
Honestly we can't tell which could be correct. And they are not mutually exclusive. But yours does seem more interesting in terms of gameplay
here’s an idea: the end portal was made to escape the Warden/Skulk. They accidentally let the Warden into their world and were terrified to not only find an entity that could kill the Wither but also spread and grow. Maybe they used the souls from the skulk to create the end portal frames -hence the very similar colors. Maybe the labs under the City Center were made to create conditions where they could try and create these frames away from the threat of the Warden. Just a theory based on the color palettes :)
That's exactly what the video says
End portal frames are the same colors as ender pearls and endstone 😢
So, what if Allays are ancient builder spirits that escape the sulk, hence the blue. That leads to part 2, what if the ancient builders used sounds. They made music discs to record their history and the instrumental music is them singing. Also they would record events which would explain disc 5. Which leads me to believe that the ancient builders were about to make a giant achievement and that's why they were recording. And some one sinister spawned the wither to stop them. Also what if the guy with the cough has wither sickness from the wither and also why the disc is mixed up is your piecing it together.
Anyone else gonna mention how the soul fire under the “portal” helps keep the biome contained since mojang made a feature where sculk can not spread past soul fire. coincidence? I think not!
Maybe the ancient builders used it to close the portal
Yeah, to prevent more wardens from coming, they tried to block it.
Which means that's the reason why the portal is not open anymore
@@rahemeenimran8583 that would also explain y the warden went through the portal
Not only is it incredibly strong but its also immune to fire (not sure if it's immune to soul fire tho)
Maybe the warden wasn't a failed experiment by the ancient builders but a conquering experiment from creatures on the other side (like precursors and kiju from Pacific rim)
The warden was sent through bc it can withstand this world and its death helps terraform this world into something more inhabitable for this unknown species
Nice also the only light sources are soul fire related objects
This actually gives credence to the new Minecraft game coming out. This is a great theory as always.
Whats the new minecraft game? :o
@@winno8744 maybe look on the website?
@@winno8744 nvm it’s minecraft legends
@@winno8744 and it’s coming spring 2023
we'll see.. because legends is all about a piglin invasion countered by mystical beings and wel, players that dont seem tied to any civilisation. Note that with the broken portals surrounded by nether blocks and the presence of GOLD around it found through the overworld, its safe to assume the events of legends will be canon and that the worls of minecraft happens in the future of legends, after the piglin invasion was thwarted and their civilisation fell.
13:16 It sounds kinda like the Ender Dragon death sound too (specifically the firework-like noises echoing in the background).
Here's a small theory: something interesting is that when killed Iron Golems don't spread skulk, this confirms that they are robots without a soul (something kind of well documented already) and makes me speculate that perhaps the real reason they built iron golems wasn't protection against miscellaneous threats but specifically as foot soldiers to fight the spreading skulk, something big and bulky enough to be able to take on wardens and something that couldn't make the skulk worse. In Disc 5 when we hear those soldiers mark we hear their footsteps they are all human footsteps, not even a little of the iconic iron golem walk sounds can be heard (the metallic footsteps are without a doubt player armor) which indicates to me that Golems were not built until after the wither attack ruined their civilization, it also goes to show they never learned their lesson about playing with life which ties into the idea that their downfall was caused by not really knowing their own limits.
This makes sence, tf
@@brummen_4520 sense*
this really makes sense i mean u can heal them with iron this means that they're robots
ye but the problem is neither do villagers
@@mrdoomguy345 Wait you can heal iron golems with iron?
Damn these ancient builders couldn’t catch a break, huh?
Portal #1 : Hell
Portal #2: Warden invasion
Portal #3: End with no escape
Portal #1: Hell
Portal #2: Warden invasion
Portal #3: Doesn't exist because Valve can't count to 3
I fell dumb asking this and i feel like a boomer but who is Valve
@@narutoifiedzoro5144 creators of a game called portal
@@narutoifiedzoro5144 the developers of artifact
@@narutoifiedzoro5144 They made Portal and Half Life, I think they also developed the Source engine and Steam
Play 13, 11, and 5 together, it sounds different, almost like a puzzle put together
actually that "explosion" you heard in the disc was really the wardens heart beat and when the warden spots someone the heart beat becomes faster just to let you know. I love the warden and I'm trying to understand the lore behind it
I don't think the warden's heartbeat blows holes in walls
This would also explain the lava pool under a horizontal portal. They learned a vertical portal could let stuff out, a horizontal anything came out would go right into the lava, and not be able to escape.
But that thought process likely also got them trapped because they can’t walk back into a horizontal portal that they dropped down from, they couldn’t fly until they got their hands on dragon wings. Maybe that’s why they wanted the dragon wings?
Omg that's so genius
i don t quite get it, perhaps i m not imagining it right could you explain this more? i can t see how their shape changes anything
@@opreacodrut8011 vertical portal: “|” up and down
Horizontal portal: “_” flat on the ground.
It not so much shape as in build orientation.
@@DuoHaptism i know what vertical and horizontal means i just can t see how it changes anything in functionality
This actually explains why you can't find the wither that was summoned way back when, it was already defeated
That was something that I was wondering up until now
I think they made a few hundred withers
@@wooow8543 Few hundred? Highly unlikely. Since the wither was most likely to have killed its creators, I doubt anyone would want to summon more of this highly destructive being that is impossible to kill.
Or is there another at play, that summoned the wither to get rid of the builders?!
But it also makes me think maybe the players wither is an inferior version??
It’s crazy how MatPat can take a sandbox game with no official timeline or really events at all, and can make a whole entire standing theory about it
Remember this: skulk spreads wheb something dies near it. So when the warden came through, there barely any skulk and maybe even no skulk sensors or catalysts. However, because the Wither is made up of souls, when it died, it spread so quickly so much that it then made it very difficult to maneuver around the city quietly, which costed many of the biilder's lives and caused the skulk to spread even more
Wither: You can’t defeat me!
Ancients: I know, but he can!
*The Warden has entered the chat*
Dead chat, only one guy in it now
I am high tilling it out
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Bedrock Wither: *it stinks of weakness*
BEDROCK WITHER: i beg your pardon?
Given all we know about Minecraft lore now it really gives some “I am Legend/Last man on Earth” vibes. Steve/Alex, and the Villagers are the only survivors in a world of undead, the diseased, mutants, evil spirits, and abominations that come out at night.
The lack of ambient sounds and creatures also suggest the Wither was a mass extinction killing off practically all wildlife.
@@enhanceddeath Yep and passive mobs respawn so slowly compared to hostile mobs suggests how much more monsters there are compared to animals.
thats not wrong
And the best way to save them is to literally just block their doors at night
@@enhanceddeath only a few survived like some fish,some mollusk and arthropod (bees,squids,spiders,fireflies,silverfish and endermites,but endermites are from another dimension) chickens,,axolotl and frogs,also some mammals
I'm sure you won't see this since its an older video, but I noticed something while trying to repair the ancient city. There are intact and ruined parts of the city, but the ruined parts also have wooden scaffolding to continue the bridges. What happened? Was the city already failing before the warden emerged? Or is this another civilization, or perhaps the same one, revisitng this site to retry teh portal?
hello, three months late, but another theorist has a theory that it was the illagers. they went down afterwards and that's why parts of the city is repaired with dark oak, and blue wool, which are blocks they use in their other builds like the woodland mansion and pillager outpost. He thinks they might've opened the portal and that led them to creating or finding the allays and vexes
@@slightlygloomy4378mojang basically tells us this place is no city at all. The chests are full of enchanted books and armor with projectile protection, blast protection, and protection. Useful for crossbows, bows, tnt and sword damage but not against the warden. There's also giant holes likely caused by tnt everywhere. Also, illagers aren't the only ones who use dark oak wood. As a matter of fact, there is only one other structure in the entire game that uses the exact, copy paste structure of the bridge thar takes you to the center of the ancient city: the mineshafts of the badlands biome.
I think that the Warden used to be a creature like the Iron Golem that the Ancient Builders used to guard their cities, but because they are made out of iron the skulk was able to infect it, transforming it not into a stationary block but a living moving form of itself- turning the thing the Ancient Builders created to protect themselves against them.
omg
The Warden is a Golem of some kind likely, one of the devs said the skulk had a boney substance, warden has same boney texture, and emerges from skulk blocks, not the portal. My guess, Warden is just a Skulk Golem, made of bones and skulk and powered by souls in the skulk.
A fun little detail or two: a warden at partial health is able to fight and defeat the wither without dying, and unlike every other mob that requires the skulk sensors to detect movement/vibrations, the moment the wither is being summoned, the warden immediately attacks, even when the wither has yet to move or even act (though it’s mere presence does set off the sensors)
idk about that, the few times I pit a Warden against a Wither it didn't go so hot for the Warden. But if it managed to get the Wither down to half health and keep it there so it would go melee then it was over for the Wither. Unless that happens, the Wither just kept flying right above the big guy bombarding it constantly till it died. It's mostly because the Warden waits to get angry enough before shooting the sonic booms.
I know this one's a little obvious, but I love the environment storytelling of the skulk. It only spreads when exposed to death, and the sheer quantity of it around the ancient cities suggests something truly tragic.
Oof I didn’t even make the connection til you mentioned it. Haunting.
Probably a lot of them is from the hostile mobs that tried to invade the ancient city while the builders were still there. Hence why there are no hostile mobs spawning today in deep dark biomes.
as they flee the desperate builders trigger shriekers which summon the warden which then kills any living being in its hearing range?, those that didn't escape now part of the city they created and the being they brought to this world
@@UltraAryan10 there is a reason why no one is living in the cities nowadays.
If you think of the numbered disks as part of a set and assume there are more numbers that just haven't been found yet, you can play the disks in order. Start counting up from 1 and play disks 5, 11, and 13 at the respective times. It's eerie to see how they line up and I'd love to hear MatPat's take on this
The candles in the city may actually be practical, the flames remain visible through the blindness effect, thus you can walk confidently through a candle lined hall when wardens are close
I feel like this also helps to explain the random silverfish spawned always in the end portal room, the silverfish would squeak and crawl around providing a distraction to mask the builder’s footsteps
*hmmm.. I should place a silverfish spawned in the deep dark..*
@@lusharaafton1081 Too bad spawners and spawn-eggs aren't obtainable in survival mode.
@@dannyfoxboi itd be a creative mode thing ->-
@@lusharaafton1081 I know, I didn't say it wouldn't be. All I said was that it's a shame you couldn't in survival- I didn't saying anything about creative.
@@dannyfoxboi -_-
Ah, the ancient builders. So smart that they can open portals with redstone, yet so pathetic that they can’t just spam harming potions
Ah yes,Isn’t the ancient world a wonderful place
Lol
Well maybe making potions isn't something the builders did, but the witches.
@@pixel3042 illagers could have only learned magic and chemistry from the stronghold libraries, I think
@weibo coiu the game has no real lore tho
The strange thing is that the skulking block has a similar texture to end portals
Theory: “I might be wrong but idk” Maybe the warden is a mix of the ancient builders who tried to open the portal. Which they succeeded in which has the sculk spreading. So maybe they are infected by it and got warped into the warden. And the reason they attack the player is because maybe the warden doesn’t want the player to open the portal to make the spread worse..?
that doesnt really fit sense killing something near sculk catalyst causes rapid growth of sculk, its doing the opposite of what youre saying
i think a warden got through due to it immediatly shrieking when the sound of flint n steel heard in disc 5. but the warden is an almalgamartion of souls and bones and skulk so ur technically correct. also the warden attacks anything that makes noise so its more like its goal is to spread the skulk.
I like to imagine the wardern the the weakest and smallest creature from its dimension, and the reason nothing worse came out was because everything else was too big
Imagine what the others will be
Nope
I hate that idea
Just imagine the other species
This would be a great idea for a mod
This is perfect we got fighting and sneaking now we need running and hiding from the things we could never beat
That would suck but what would they look like?🤔
Let's all take a moment to appreciate the true hero of this story: the absolute madlad who was running around recording all of this on a music disk.
_damn_
Never thought of that
Yes let’s commend him for his work
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They have advanced technology to make portals to other dimensions and weapons but they can't make a simple camera to record stuff.
@@uncanny3637 Minecraft bedrock had a picture camera. It's gone now.
I think the nether, the sculk, and the end are discovered by three different groups of ancient builders, because strongholds do not have wool carpets, thus they have no warden threat that forced them into the end.
Another unique thing of note is that the during the end poem, one of the figures says one of its name it was called "the spirit of the mountain". Deep dark cities can be found in mountains. Perhaps the wardens were a safety measure to stop the builders from entering the other dimension.
apparently his story checks out. a warden can actually tank a wither's attack and finish it before the final explosion takes it with it,and since they're in a cave system the warden could actually reach the wither without being carpet bombed. if im taking this correctly then the warden not only defeated the wither, but as it was taken out by the wither's final explosion it dropped the sculk block, which would explain why after the warden defeated the wither it didn't stayed long enough to be considered a threat by the ancient builders, and how it brought the sculk block into the city in the first place
I’m confused because with what I’ve seen, the warden can’t defeat the wither as long as the wither is flying. The warden’s range attacks aren’t powerful enough and don’t occur often enough to take down the wither, it dies before the wither actually comes down in its second phase.
@@LEONEwashere But in a cave, the wither wouldn't be able to fly away.
No the warden can still kill the wither even if it's flying
@@Physicalplxne What do you mean?
@@tanimation7289 Mojang added a shockwave ranged attack to the Warden. Ever since it was added the Warden can solo a Wither
This actually solves everything;
Why the city is covered in sculk and wool, why the portal is unlightable, the motivation, the shapes, it all makes sense
It can also explain why the Enderman are smart enough to pick up and place blocks. Those Enderman could be the Ancient Builders who were transformed in the End; Possibly by the Ender Dragon.
@@peacefulchild2570 that's actually what MatPat's first Minecraft lore theory was about
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Heres my version of the events, its been a week since the wither destroyed everything. The last remaining colonists from the big city that was destroyed fled to the underground, but soon after they split, one group tried to build a portal to escape and one group tried to preserve the colonists legacy and decided to build an underground city. Its been a few days since they split apart and one explorer ventures into the caves to check on the other group but theyre gone, he wanders inside the strongholds and finds the end portal but its been destroyed. Creeper attack likely. As hes leaving though he sees a tall human like form, he looks at it carefully and approaches but it shrieks and he quickly runs away. He gathers materials but he sees and hears the figure again and runs away quickly. He sees a light and runs for it but it was a terrible mistake. In the distance he sees the wither and frozen in fear he watches as it gets close enough to see him. He tries to turn and run but then the tall figure finds him and ends him. A few hours later the city realizes someone has gone missing and sends a group of soldiers to go find him as they go to open the doors however they hear something.... strange, loud bangs, getting closer and closer, they realize it must be the wither. They tell the city folk to hide under the city center in the newly built bunker and they sound the sirens and open the door. The scientists grab supplies and finish the new portal and as it is created the souls from the soul sand they gathered and experimented with scream in agony but they get ready to flee. But a sound of a creature is heard, then a loud roar, a giant beast steps lut and ravages through the scientists, it makes its way through the city until its hit by a large fireball, it roars and a large fight insues and the beast destroys the wither, but as the soldiers and townsfolk try to embrace and rebuild and mourn, they make too much noise. For je next few weeks, it kills everyone no matter how much they try and get around it, it doesnt work and finally the last survivor is mutilated by the beast and it burrows, leaving the city in ruin and infected by skulk, forgotten, an ancient city..... abandoned....
This gets even crazier when you consider matpat’s FIRST theory on the warden three years ago, and he suggested that the warden is an iron golem infected by the sculk…could this all be connected somehow??
Here me out: what if Steve has an echo shard inside of him? We know the builders were desperate to prolong their survival as a species. We know that they performed experiments with death and used the skulks weird post death properties to craft things like recovery compasses which stay in your inventory when you respawn and point you to your place of death. We also know that with the wither and now the warden there were 2 looming threats to this species.
So what if, In the last few days of the builder civilization, they created the player by embedding an echo shard into one of their own and using its death bending properties to allow that builder to respawn infinitely ensuring even death can’t truly stop them.
Maybe this ties into the illagers, maybe the illagers saw this process somehow and tried to recreate that series of events. since illagers can’t reproduce this ability to ignore death would’ve been very valuable to their kind. But their inferior science and lack of access to the deep dark caused them to mess it up. Maybe they used lapis instead of echo shards cause hey both are bluish lookin crystals they have to be interchangeable right?
I just want to mention something similar about the illagers. Matpat theorized that illagers try to replicate things and accidentally make things. Allays are literally prisoners in the dark forest mansions. They also look quite similar to vexes. What if illagers we're using allays to create or accidentally create vexes?
I think echo shards are corrupted form of amethyst shard, cause you can get both from Ancient City loot chests.
That my friend, is a great theory
@@JaTa_ Well, they did get ONE minor thing incorrect. The player still drops the recovery compass upon death so it in fact doesn't stay in your inventory upon respawn. Other than that I agree with your notion.
Hardcore mode: I'm gonna destroy this whole mans theory
I seriously love the direction this game is heading
Bro these bots are getting so annoying
@@rockiecraft ikr
I don’t think much about Minecraft lore, but when I do look into it, I find awesome stuff like this disc and the possible origins of sculk! This game really is feeding the lore pigeons!
The Wither, the ancient builders, the warden… tree mysteries of the Minecraft world. The Ender-Dragon: “Am I a joke to you?”
I love how this video not only explained the origins of the warden but also how the original wither that destroyed the ancient builders died.
I used to think that Because the Wither is gone why won't they just get out from the underground and just leave the Warden behind, But until i realised that the virus thing is still going on so they can't
The next 'intelligent' species to evolve would have a big nose to survive the virus!
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What is that virus thing?
@@animationcity8178 sculk
Who else wants this to be animated?
Just imagine the warden jumping out of the portal and punching the wither in mid air.
That would be awesome.
Bro that would be amazing
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Honestly I'm picturing it as ripping of two of the side heads and clapping them into the main head as they explode.
@@pineappleudh6561 same, I can picture a city in ruin, the sirens blare out, but nobody is left as the army approaches
Look at Alan becket
I think the ender dragon was tamed some how and was used by the ancient builders to defend themselves against the warden or wither if those things ever made it to the end, because there are iron bars around the end crystals and end crystals are man made requiring stuff from the nether to craft
This is honestly one of my favorite series to follow. Thanks so much for all the work you put into these videos!
With so any different horrors out in minecraft, it makes Steve look like the doom slayer for being able to deal with them, when his peers couldn't.
Not even his peers, the ancient builders were so much more advanced, the fact that they could make portal frames and other things like that probably mean they had better weapons and armor. Steve is even more of a chad because he’s killing these things with probably primitive stuff compared to them.
@@dylancook2612 fr these builders were smart but weak. steve is technically dumb but immensely powerful in that his fighting ability is unrivaled
@@dylancook2612 like mass effects commander shepherd fighting reapers right in front of javik who calls them "primitive"
mf lone survivor from fallout 4
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I wouldn’t say he’s necessarily dumb, perhaps in the light of the builders he is a mere shadow. But he is capable of building damn near anything from scratch, making portals to new dimensions, alchemy, enchanting, and cartography.
Regarding the "monster" at 10:37 - that's the sound of an Endersent, a larger and stronger type of Enderman from Minecraft Dungeons tasked with guarding the eyes of ender required (in that game) to access the End. You can hear it for yourself by finding the Minecraft Dungeon Wiki's Endersent page and checking the Idle sounds
Minecraft Dungeons portal?
Oh snap, you're right! Idle 1
that brings up a question: is Minecraft and Mincraft dungeons canonically connected? (and story mode too i guess)
Next step: minecraft multiverse
But why would End creatures be involved in this theory? I thought the ancient builders became the endermen
I never get tired of the outro "But hey, that's just a theory... A GAME THEORY" LOVE IT
I think the Stronghold Ancient Builders were probably cut off from the Ancient City Ancient Builders. Both groups tried to flee to other dimensions to escape the wither. One succeeded but got trapped in the End, and the other unleashed the invasive Sculk on their city.
its also a possibility that the ancient builders were split in groups, and some groups built ancient cities with a giant portal to escape, but perished because of the sculk, and another group built the strongholds, with the end portal, but got trapped in the end. They aren't necessarily 1 group.
I wonder how exactly they tested these inter dimensional portals. I imagine they would tie a lead to one guy have him stick his upper body through the portal then ask him "Are you dead?" "What's on the other side?"
I like this theory. Multiple different things going on at once.
That would explain why they didn't lay down carpet
Every infinite world has 3 strongholds too. So would every world have 3 wardens?
@@SpadesG no.
there is inf warden per cities
Hypothesis: The two entities that converse in the credits after you defeat the ender dragon are two ancient builders that have ascended to a godlike paragon ultimately achieving the goal the ancient builders sought after, immortality.
it could also tie in with the admins from Story Mode. Yes I know Story Mode is non-cannon but that doesn't mean things from it can't exist, non-cannon means it didn't happen it doesn't mean it couldn't happen.
steve also has achived it in a way, through respawning. he comes back to life whenever he dies.
Nirvana moment
@@bluepineappleguy He is stuck in samsara. The two entities have escaped to nirvana
D o n t r e a d m y c h a n n e l
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insane how i used to watch this guy 10 years ago and the editing hasn't changed... much
The fact that the skulks evolved to have the warden as a defense mechanism should be terrifying, because I feel like that means there are things at least equal in power to the warden, if not stronger on the other side
One small thing I would like to add to this theory is an idea I heard that the pillagers found the Ancient Cities before the player did. We can see Dark Oak wood bridges and outposts which stand out from the rest of the city but is a staple of pillager outposts and woodland mansions. The carpet that lines some of the Dark Oak Bridges is also a distinct purple compared to the grey wool as the pillagers likely had an encounter with the Warden or at least understood why they had to keep quiet. The small outposts that line the cities were small bases for the pillagers to make camp and we can even find piles of wool similar to those found in woodland mansions lying around the city. Judging by the fact that the outpost’s chest still have loot, however, it’s clear that despite their attempts, the pillagers didn’t make it out alive. Like I said, this wasn’t my theory but just something I heard although it does make the world feel a bit more lived in as the player isn’t the only one to explore the ancient ruins left by the builders.
you have a solid point!! its not like the wool found in the ancient city, it looks like these structures were build long after the city was in shambles, none of the dark oak bridges and outpost have any skulk on them, they dont look nearly as destroyed as the ancient city itself, they just seem out of place in the entire city, all tho i do feel like the pillagers did make it out alive as none of their loot can be found anywhere in the ancient city chest, they prob build these outpost and bases to start on their raid in the city, but had to cancel and evacuate quickly for...obvious reasons
Another reason the builders might've stayed in the city: instead of there being one Wither, there are actually multiple, and if the Warden was shown to be able to kill one of the Withers, then the Ancient Builders would have wanted to stay near something that could kill their most dangerous enemy. They laid down candles to help see in the darkness effect, they laid down carpets as to not alert the Warden, but the longer they stayed down in the Ancient Cities, the more sculk was made from the slaying of mobs and the natural deaths of the citizens. Eventually they couldn't contain the sculk or the Warden anymore, so they left.
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I feel like you should be able to light the portal and either A you seem to see the portal malfunction then you are transported to another ancient city or B it spawns TONNES of wardens and skulk blocks leading to chaos just a suggestion
and the wither is the mob that gives the most sulk once it dies thats probably why there is so much in the ancient cities.
@@Voltboy1449 think of gameplay wise since this game is not just for lore, how exactly would that affect the playerbase if multiple wardens came out of it or the diff dimension. they made it so it's "hard" to get lore from this game and thereby making those 2 (which mind you may be VERY wrong since they haven't confirmed or denied this tbf) very easy lore things to get. think of it like a FNAFs little brother type trying to get lore game.
I thought the new disc represented someone trying to escape from the warden but ended up failing. The random music representing someone playing music to distract the warden but then it stops so they break amethyst because it’s loud and makes a run for it then they try to pillar up but the warden uses it’s ranged attack the sculk screech and knocks the player down making them fall to there death and also breaking the disc into 9 fragments
Theres a chance the warden isnt even the strongest entity of its world, it could potentially just be a common grunt and further down its world could exist something even more powerful and dangerous
But hey thats just a theory, ANOTHER THEORY!
I like to think that this ancient builders underground could have either been another ancient civilization of builders basically like a surface civilization and a underground civilization. I think they both are different kingdoms. The underground civilization perished because of the skulk infestation while the surface made it to the end. I like to guess that they must’ve already made it to the end while the wither still goes on a rampage and eventually found another civilization which was underground and of course they were trying to escape but then perished after the skulk came through the portal.
15:13 - DUDE! This is probably your best Minecraft theory to date, and compellingly told.
Finally it’s not here. There is no video. Stop looking at this now.
Yeah
They will come, eventually....
agree
@@raygagnon4809 yeah what is up with those comments are they like bots?
If they are from some other dimension, then if we imagine that Warden and skulk are at the bottom of food chain in their world, and there are even stronger entities there, it becomes way more terrifying.
Shades of Lovecraftian horror there
@@SirLeetMan that’s my kind of horror!!
@@SirLeetMan It's where Azathoth resides in.
@@godfilms that guy doesn't know how to scale
The challenge seekers: "Hell yeah, dude!"
10:39 The "Monster Shriek" is a sound of an Endersent from Minecraft Dungeons. This makes the whole idea of the Ancient Builders becoming Endermen later kind of crumble on it self or at least linking their story to the Disc 5 does.
Fine interpretation of the disc and all, but this doesn't make any sense with the Phantom theory, if going to the End was a last resort, a one way trip, how can the illagers know about ender dragons? In fact, even if they could travel freely for a while how would a completely subterranean civilization communicate with the illagers?
Something else that's interesting is that in Bedrock edition, there's a new shirt/top that came with the wild update that's supposed to look like the warden's open chest, but instead of being called something like warden's chest or warden's torso, it's simply called "Keeper's Promise", so that might be something.
That would make sense since Wardens in real life guard prisons and prevents prisoners from escaping. So the Warden might be a keeper.
huuuuuge potential that the Warden and Builders had a symbiotic relationship. that seems to be the general consensus at this point
@@priinglescafe9685 At least for a little while.
Oh i got it its rlly pretty
@@RGC_animation he's a keeper 😍
Imagine just going through the new portal and there are a bunch of wardens just walking around casually.
Or maybe even worse.
Why is no one talking about the Endersent TwT
@@KyuuDesperation ?
@@JanitorHarold The Endersent from Minecraft Dungeons, the ones who hold the ender eyes to keep the end portal unlit.
Or should I say, they were sent by the Vengeful Heart of Ender to keep any intruders away from their dimension.
@@JanitorHarold there are 2 Sounds in Disc No. 5 of the Endersent.
With the Villager Recruits mod, I like to think that the player finds villagers and teaches them how to fight again. After that, together the player and villagers can take down any threat to the Minecraft world.
There is a theory that Wardens are actually axolotls. If you compare the Warden and the axolotl, it probably make sense because they both have similar properties for example, they both live in deep caves and they have poor eyesight and they need their hearing to navigate. If you didn't know, if you invert the colors of the Warden, it looks more like an axolotl. According to a Minecraft TH-camr, EliteG he said that axolotls are attracted to sculk sensors, and when they go on top, they get stuck and get dehydrated making their bodies to fuse together and making them corrupt causing them to turn into the Warden
Minecraft in 2011: "Haha, blocks go brrrr."
Minecraft now: "The souls of the dead power this entire species that came from another dimension."
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@Ppp Kk 😦
Minecraft had lore back then as well...
Builders: get decimated when they open a portal
Also builders: "Hey, we need away from this monster we unintentionally summoned.... let's build another portal" 👍😂
To be fair, the builders were probably pretty desperate to escape. They were pinned on both sides in the overworld, and the Nether isn't exactly a hospitable climate for humans, as they quickly learned. But the fact that they could survive in the nether probably told them that they can survive in other worlds, so maybe there was a peaceful one out there.
A creepy detail about this theory is that you can find skulls in ancient cities.
All your most recent theory's mix so well and it's just... amazing
notice how they use very strong blocks to make their portals. The portals only work with stronger blocks. maybe this means that any attempts to use weaker blocks have backfired and resulted in the portal imploding or something; leaving builders trapped in other worlds. and they also continue to use stronger and stronger blocks. the obsidian was natural, but the rest they made themselves- that's how the deepslate got reinforced and how the end portal was made despite the blocks being unmovable. once they found that obsidian, the strongest natural block besides bedrock (a block they can't move and therefore can't use), could be used to make a stable portal, they proceeded to make even stronger blocks to make new portals. the only problem is they couldn't all be lit the same way. the lighting methods were somehow related to the dimensions the portal led to (fire for the Nether and ender eyes for the end). The ancient city portal to the skulk world was somehow lit using souls of the deceased, possibly VIA soul fire, to light the portal in an ancient technique we are no longer in position of.
note: I'm behind on theories, so if by sheer luck I happen to mention something previously stated here, please do not ridicule me for it.
so the aether isnt a thing bc glowstone is too weak of a block to sustain a portal
This makes alot of sense.
@@sebastianwatches7095 What if someone invents reinforced glowstone huh?
@@EmperorProtects1 maybe... its like glass and realistically obsidian is volcanic glass, but virtually indestructible in the minecraft universe
though how would you reinforce glowstone? kinda looks like they used bones to reinforce deepslate
intersting theory tbh
I just need to say: the "sirens are probably goat horns, since there aren't real sirens in Minecraft. But for real, these Minecraft theories are the best!
They may add sirens to Minecraft or something like that because it doesn't sound like a goat horn at all but with all seriousness they probably just made up a sound regardless of what was in the game
Or what if the ancient city was actually on land, I mean after soo many years, it would make sense for it go underground, look at real world examples, like Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa (part of the Indus Valley Civilization). There would be very little wind. Or they built the ancient cities inside caves and there are stairs and the blocks to the gates for wind to gush through, from that onward the villages could exist.
If that, then why would they so heavily rely on being constructed from materials found underground?
Deepslate (Y-0 and below)
Soul Sand (Y-REDACTED and below slightly)
Game theory idea: the player can respawn because he's been experimented on by the ancient builders that's also the reason he's the only ancient builder Alive.
Lore theory: The deep dark is a different dimension the ancient builders opened up using the giant nether portal looking structure in every ancient city, this explains how the city’s are destroyed and why skulk is only in these areas as if it is bleeding into our world. When the builders found out there mistake they quickly decided to try again. This action lead to the creation of strongholds and the end. Proof that dimensions bleed into the over world is when you find ruined nether portals. These small structures have nether rack around them suggesting that they are also spreading. :)
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Yea that makes sense
I think you are into something if we take in count that we already see a "world mutation or infeccion" in the nether whit the warped forest being confirmed that is a tumor caused for a enderman over teletransportin there
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Ok Matpat, Have you noticed the similarity between the warden and the allay?
The allay death sound slowed down and the shreiker to be specific :)
Dead child?
I think the Allay is like a released spirit since it has that blue floating look to it like the soul particles and vexes. So when the shrieker makes the noise a spirit is released similar to what happens when the Warden dies.
Great work on this particulary theory, but if you check out the video Wifies posted on his channel about this disc, he mentions the unidentifiable sounds that are not native to Minecraft Java are actually from Minecraft dungeons, indicating a universal overlap. This has been confirmed by the developers in a q&a, which when asked about the interconnected timelines, confirm this theory. It should also be noted that the question was asked in the "music" section of the video, referencing disk 5. This means either 1: we are listening to a minecraft Java player who accidentally stumbled on an ancient city while caving and decided to help defend the city. Or 2: we are listening to a Minecraft dungeons player who is out caving, see the wither and hears the phantoms, which appears after your teammates die. He runs back down and sounds the alarms and mobilizes the city's army the help fight, summoning the warden as an ally rather than an adversary
Maybe, with legends, this could be some new lore-perhaps the ancient builders making the portal was an attempt to bring back the hosts, and since this was many centuries after the events of legends, none of them really knew how the hosts looked and so rejoiced, thinking the warden was a host and had come to save them, and so them worshipping it makes even more sense now…
Makes sense, especially if the deepslate portal was first that would explain why lava is underneath the end portal just in case something came through.
y'know that making some sense!
it would also explain the silver fish spawner - a small defense to flee, if something comes through AND survives the lava
@@vollgereat And a chest with a golden apple at the center of the ancient cities