Im usually not into the interviews as much as the Q&A but the Edison Motors guys are so down to earth. They don't hide behind a fake persona. Throwing down the Fbomb in an interview or a presentation in Texas where they won a grant. Good on you guys, just keep being you.
I love the Edison Motors guys! What a great interview! They built up their capital the hard way, developed their expertise, they know their competition, and they found their niche.
Your "Edison Motors", business model works. Like you said because you had the idea and you have let it develope as your product gets built and perfected from other avenues of need as people learn about what you are building. Keep your roots in the dirt floor. To continue to out class other ideas / manufacturers, with your quality inginuity and passion. Using off the shelf parts and then developing specialist parts as you can and need to use a great way to keep all the cost to a minimum and practical. I am looking forward to see how you guys do in the years to come.
I haven't seen such a down to earth, inspiring and hilarious interview as this one in a long time. Chace Barber from Edison Motors is a comedic treasure.
These guys are fantastic, I love how candid they are with the whole process they've been but also how optimistic they still are. Keep up the great work!
First, I'm really glad to see a small startup trying to compete, I hope they don't get bought out. Secondly, the common sense approach to building something new is awesome. As an old school shade tree mechanic, it's great to hear someone developing something new that it looked at with the end-user in mind. Best of luck to these guys!
dont think there is a chance in hell they get bought out, i think chase would have had to get a traumatic brain injury/ complete change of personality for that to happen. how they are gaining capital, through crowdfunding, and "small time" individual investments, ensuring that they maintain control of the company. it seems to be working, gained 1.5million dollars in one and a half day, that portrays how much trust people are putting into this company, i am so bummed i missed out on the crowdfunding phase
i am so bummed i missed out of the crowdfunding phase of the investment phase for gaining money to pay for the facility in Golden, they were only allowed to gain 1.5m$ through crowdfunding, which they gained, in 1.5 days! that is insanely well done boys! this is the first company i so truly believe in, that i was ready to put down some serious money into. Chase and Eric, your vision on how to run a company, is a breath of fresh air into this stale cesspool that the business world is, and i tip my proverbial hat to you Sirs
I've been following these guys for a few years. What a great bunch of loggers, truckers, mechanics, fabricators and engineers! They are out of British Columbia Canada. Diesel-Electric regenerative electric powered work trucks! Way to inovate folks
Matt Farrell this is a great interview you did with Edison motors. The discussion at 28 minutes where the Canadian greens are advocating to build logging trucks had me laughing out loud. I see what these fellows are doing as real progress towards a clean economy that makes sense economically. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for having the Edison guys on. I’ve been watching them for a year and I am really impressed with them. I drove big rigs many years ago and understand the power their trucks deliver is so much greater than the ones running down the highway. I got a lot of interesting background today and it was fun.
Thanks, that was great 👍 I love hearing from proper innovators who are in it to win, not just a quick buck. The brutally honest and hilarious conversation was so much fun to hear.
I love these guys- so genuine and likable. Is it just me or do they give off serious Bob and Doug vibes from Strange Brew / SCTV?😂 I hope they’re super successful.
I was happy when they were inspired in what Aptera has done during their process of building a solar mobility vehicle. Take your time and do it right the first time! Two great individuals with dreams and the knowledge and ambition to succeed!
I've been following these guys for a good long while. I've watched him build Carl and build topsy. You're definitely committed to their dream. Very inspirational.
That was lovely! I hadn't heard of them before, but I love that they're coming from the problem space, rather than outside and porting a solution to a new context.
How did Edison get into the Fully Charged Canada exhibition in September 2023? the interview with Sandy of Munro Live was a great episode where the grumpy guy was clearly charmed by the real experience of real heavy truckers going entrepreneurial to apply electrification in a highly challenging environment. Sandy doesn’t always come out as Canadian when he is drilling down on manufacturing processes and gets caught up in partisanship. but in the truck he found a proof of electrification concept in Canadian logging practice. I’m relieved to hear of steady progress here despite the deceptive lures of venture capital. Electric conversion kits are doing fairly well for classic cars in the UK despite the bureaucratic hurdles. Hopefully, North American governments will see the benefit of supporting electric conversion for existing trucks after pushing so much support to new construction. Clearly existing vehicles outnumber the new and existing vehicles have proven increasingly long-lasting. so the performance benefits & harm reduction of converting the existing fleet are enormous.
In the US people are doing the conversions regardless of any incentives. Ever since Ford released the Mach E crate motor, people have been buying them.
I’ve been waiting for this for so long!! Edison motors is such an interesting company with honest wholesome values, look forward to the day I see one of their trucks on the roads (might be a while as I’m in the UK)
I love what Edison is doing, been following them since they started on Topsy. I also think that Dodge did them a huge favor when they announced the Ramcharger 1500 with a very similar powertrain setup.
Been watching Edison since they were designing Topsy. There idea on building something then figuring out where the market is. For you for instance you built your super home, but what could you teach someone else on what not to do when designing an energy efficient home now that you know what you did not know then.
I am totally one of the 'Holy Crap' gang!! I've followed you since I first saw Topsy. I am so impressed that you are pushing back against the VC/IPO path. Edison Motors is UNIQUE, and awesome! Following that path would ruin that reputation and probably your company. I've been in the computer server business for 40 years. When I see software that's awesome and full of features and has great support, the company is a few people, working as a team, listening to customers, pricing to stay afloat rather than get rich. Then they sell to VCs and support goes to crap, pricing through the roof, innovation evaporates. Because now it's focus on shareholder value, not on the product and innovation. Stay true to yourselves and your vision!! Oh and by the way, my son-in-law wants a flatbed, tri-drive with powered front axle, mounted crane, for hauling, picking, placing, concrete panels. Off road is mandatory as they are often the first guys onto a job site way before driveways etc. The crane needs to run on the battery so the crane guy can talk to the guys on the ground!
What a fantastic interview. I love the founders honest and even joyful approach. In a similar vein, I suggest you interview McGee Young from Watt Carbon. I have been struck by his honest and disruptive approach to the world of carbon offsets. "Plant heat pumps rather than trees"
that was awesome, and using existing for a while technology, hope other heavy duty diesel machine makers/operators take notice and move that direction.
As an investor, I'm a little biased... however the Edison motors guys are legitimate, true to themselves and are a fantastic group of people. Their product is definitely a palm-to-forehead product, but I'm so darn glad its a Canadian company doing it (I'm Canadian, might be another bias). However, the potential of their system, i think, faaaar exceeds any other EV company at the moment. So excited to see where they go, and what they do!
Edison is so open about the way they work it’s a breath of fresh air. They are not there to make money for the investors like Nikola. They are taking the right road with regards to recycling and right to repair. Edison is not about making Edison great, Edison is about making a better truck.
These are great. Do a smaller version for 5 tons and 3 tons. I’m looking at building a box truck tiny home/camper on a 5 ton chassis. The fact that it could power the drive and power the living area would save thousands (quoted $10K-$15K for rudimentary lithium system for the accommodation). Good BC boys. Go get ‘em.
Those guys are so cool. I love that video. I wish I could find some guys like that to help me with my start-up. 21st Century Sustainable City Development. I'm going to need some many types of people. I've got like 50 ideas of stuff I'm going to need to pull this off.
Proud canadian to be an investor. I wish I could have put in the full 10k. Im not and probably will never be a trucker but I believe in what these guys are doing and how their doing it.
video suggestion: Find similar series hybrid builds. What ICE's and Alternators, motors/driveshafts etc are used/best to DIY build vehicles in the same vein as Edison. There's a nutter with a plain old genset he plugs in, in the back of his plain old EV for long trips. There's a lot of bike stuff: Pedal + Solar + plug-in. There's a couple of PHEV E-bikes. There's plug in electric Velomobiles that have pedalable gensets to help with range that make cars look absolutely stupid when it comes to power per mile. There are bikes and trikes that give cars a run for their money on pull away but top out There's ways to get a tiny bit of wind power on bicycles etc. And less affected by crosswinds to boot! :)
Interesting comparisons to the Tesla Semi with what these guys are doing. Looking at the cost of diesel drive train compared to hybrid one area I don't recall discussion was regen braking with safety, fuel and brake saving and noise remediation. Tesla has talked of capacitors for high voltage short term smoothing off regenerative braking. These guys ideas would be interesting. Keep up the good work. 😊
The investment option on their website is geared to large investors, they should look for more grass roots investors and allow smaller investments. Smaller investments but more investors.
I am in Longmont Colorado and there is a concrete company near me that has converted their trucks to natural gas. Rather simple step to go to your rig. If you are right about NG Diesel losing tork but gaining efficiency your set up would give back the tork with a much smaller ICE. Also much less noise.
good interview. they sound like really great guys doing things the right way. the reason we havn't been doing this is the efficiency is generally worse. there is a main stream manufacture in the last few years who sells a hybrid car based on the same type of system. its the lowest efficiency hybrid in the market place and its only slightly better fuel economy than its normal version. they do diesel electric on trains because using gearboxes etc is extremely difficult and costly. good to see that they have made efficiency improvements. the next generation of batteries should help (double the energy density). also it opens up to use of alternative fuels. we have some trucks that use methane thats captured from rubbish dump sites. there is also dual fuel where they use hydrogen as well. to me its more about it being a system that works rather then being the best emission friendly system. we have studies here that found even with medium ev trucks charging infrastructure is a major problem. it would be worse again for full sized trucks (which wasn't in the study). but having an in-between solution is better than nothing. unfortunately try telling the ev fan boys that.
Highway trucks are the only time they have better efficiency. With most vocational trucks they are alway ideling or stop go driving so the hybrid is far more efficient. On the logging side if the mill is close to the bottom of the hill they pretty much can run for ever without charging because of regen
If electric truck technology can be figured out, complete with fast charging, that will be the tipping point of getting rid of all ICE vehicles. There will be some more battery technology improvements in 2025 and 2026 which will help.
One thing I really want to see is an Edison truck paired with a Range Energy style trailer to make it a truly all wheel drive semi. With the generator in the Edison, the trailer also could have infinite range
These guys give me hope. For any potential investors out there already in the trucking industry: investing in them won't lead to your extinction, it'll lead to your evolution and everyone else's. So put yourself and these guys in the lead instead of the clowns at Tesla.
I don't get why Hybrids are not more looked in to. We have gas station all over the place but almost no charging stations. It like big car companies don't want to have a good transition period. Great video as always.
They are coming at this from a reliability and serviceability standpoint. There's an established maintenance industry that already has the tooling and training to work on diesel engines. A turbin is a completely different ballgame with little to no specialized support. Another quirk about turbines is they offer really high power density but are not all that efficient compared to a reciprocating engine.
This was always the best approach. No hint sight. But established brands are bot interested in shaking up the market and writibg of existing production lines. And the "green" movement is useless. They have their head in the clouds. They want the all or nothing approach which leads to resistance. The range anxiety. We need a common sense economic approach. It it the bottom line that matters. If you can make it work financially it means you're on the right path. If your idea is not economic it means your chasing shadows. Love their work.
In 1963 an Italian tractor manufacturer had a dispute with Ferrari and said "OK, I'll build my own" and Lamborghini was born. And is arguably better than a Ferrari. Edison is going after a different market than the Semi - one that was getting NO interest whatsoever.
Chace could go on an hour long rant of planned obsolescents and I'd listen to it. Caroll Shelby, in an interview years ago said, the auto industry should've gon hybrid long before the Prius came into existence. There could have been a lot more performance potential in modifying. Hybrids haven't caught on because the options, lets face it kind of suck. The Prius lacks the get up and go you'd want and the styling is not great. Edison Motors is doing it right, electric drivetrain with a generator under the hood. One thing they did not touch on, was in Canada, they can consider the truck as electric, meaning they can have a higher capacity of like an additional 1500kg (3306lbs) vs a standard diesel semi truck. Another way they arw doing it right is, wanting to break the truck so they know where to improve it. Sure manufacturers might do a couple, but they don't do enough testing with production vehicles, because there are so many problems off the factory when they are put together. I can't wait until their trucks end up in the States.
For a while he has been using the same error (off by nearly an order of magnitude, assuming 8h charge time) to claim that the grid can't handle electric trucks.
I was waiting for you to ask if Chase and his partner have been approached by any of the “ big boys” of the industry ? Tesla, Caterpillar, General Electric about a buy out? It must be tempting to do what a lot startups do, sell and walk away with a fistful of dollars, and regretfully wonder for the rest of your life what might have been. I wonder if they have ever spoken to Musk .? I love to hear that conversation 😊
Edison makes solar light towers on trailers for site work and they are sold by Fenning Caterpillar. Those solar rigs use Caterpillar solar panels and Edison powers their tent and work site from them as well. I think it would be hard to buy these guys out. They are doing it because they love the trucks, the vocational industry, and they want to see heavy vocational trucks being built in BC again. I think Chace would love it if Edison becomes the modernized reincarnation of Pacific, building skookum trucks focused on the driver and the job. They are true believers in what they are doing. It makes a big difference. That is why they did things like the sponsored electric go kart kits and competition for the high schools. Their dream and focus is upon much more than making money. It is about making something special to them.
Couldn't the mining industry, which uses electric vehicles, get behind this "drive" to convert vehicles. The number of onsite pick-up trucks alone in a large mine's fleet would benefit for this. Let alone the specialty vehicles that can run in a very similar method to the Edison rigs (like Topsee)?
I think in mining where they are operating within a limited area, battery swapping would be more appropriate. In the long run we have to phase out Diesel use. Hybrids can only be a stepping stone to the future.
About Mining. Edison just announced that they're making a diesel/electric toyota landcruiser for a mining company. Battery power for underground and dinosaur power for above ground.
Hmm, you know natural gas also means you could run bio-gas that all animal farms make. In Finland we have shitload of trucks and tractors that literally run with a fermented pigshit made in small units in farms where they grow the animals and fun thing is, it's the same darn methane in there that you get from oil industry, but now it's a by-product from farming that gets used, instead of just letting it loose. This would make it carbon negative as well!
You should think about big air storage and compressor you and a lot things with extra air supply air jacks tire inflation cleaning thing hot air in winter
Im usually not into the interviews as much as the Q&A but the Edison Motors guys are so down to earth. They don't hide behind a fake persona. Throwing down the Fbomb in an interview or a presentation in Texas where they won a grant. Good on you guys, just keep being you.
That's what happens when you interview truck drivers. I love it.
Agree, Real people. It's so refreshing considering how controlling companies can be about their image.
I love the Edison Motors guys! What a great interview! They built up their capital the hard way, developed their expertise, they know their competition, and they found their niche.
Your "Edison Motors", business model works. Like you said because you had the idea and you have let it develope as your product gets built and perfected from other avenues of need as people learn about what you are building. Keep your roots in the dirt floor. To continue to out class other ideas / manufacturers, with your quality inginuity and passion. Using off the shelf parts and then developing specialist parts as you can and need to use a great way to keep all the cost to a minimum and practical.
I am looking forward to see how you guys do in the years to come.
I haven't seen such a down to earth, inspiring and hilarious interview as this one in a long time. Chace Barber from Edison Motors is a comedic treasure.
I'm retired, but Edison Motors guys have been inspiring for a long time!
These guys are fantastic, I love how candid they are with the whole process they've been but also how optimistic they still are. Keep up the great work!
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What a pair of dreamers, I renewed my faith in the future of mankind knowing there are guys like these doing stuff
EdisonMotors is THE best startup I ever seen.
First, I'm really glad to see a small startup trying to compete, I hope they don't get bought out. Secondly, the common sense approach to building something new is awesome. As an old school shade tree mechanic, it's great to hear someone developing something new that it looked at with the end-user in mind. Best of luck to these guys!
dont think there is a chance in hell they get bought out, i think chase would have had to get a traumatic brain injury/ complete change of personality for that to happen. how they are gaining capital, through crowdfunding, and "small time" individual investments, ensuring that they maintain control of the company. it seems to be working, gained 1.5million dollars in one and a half day, that portrays how much trust people are putting into this company, i am so bummed i missed out on the crowdfunding phase
This company will never get bought out while I'm alive
I love this Edison company, it's a breath of fresh air
private equity will buy it, don't worry
@@pranshukrishna5105 I dunno, not everybody is a selfish, amoral sellout.
@@capnkirk5528 they will be bought out
Chace has been pretty adamant that he wants to create North American jobs and keep the trucks as inexpensive and easy to repair as possible.
I hope not, but when bills pile up and the only way out, is to be bought out..
I wish they stay strong
I guess Time will tell
i am so bummed i missed out of the crowdfunding phase of the investment phase for gaining money to pay for the facility in Golden, they were only allowed to gain 1.5m$ through crowdfunding, which they gained, in 1.5 days! that is insanely well done boys! this is the first company i so truly believe in, that i was ready to put down some serious money into. Chase and Eric, your vision on how to run a company, is a breath of fresh air into this stale cesspool that the business world is, and i tip my proverbial hat to you Sirs
I've been following these guys for a few years. What a great bunch of loggers, truckers, mechanics, fabricators and engineers! They are out of British Columbia Canada. Diesel-Electric regenerative electric powered work trucks! Way to inovate folks
Matt Farrell this is a great interview you did with Edison motors. The discussion at 28 minutes where the Canadian greens are advocating to build logging trucks had me laughing out loud. I see what these fellows are doing as real progress towards a clean economy that makes sense economically. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for having the Edison guys on. I’ve been watching them for a year and I am really impressed with them. I drove big rigs many years ago and understand the power their trucks deliver is so much greater than the ones running down the highway. I got a lot of interesting background today and it was fun.
Been following these guys for a few months now. Brilliant idea.
Thanks, that was great 👍
I love hearing from proper innovators who are in it to win, not just a quick buck. The brutally honest and hilarious conversation was so much fun to hear.
I love these guys- so genuine and likable. Is it just me or do they give off serious Bob and Doug vibes from Strange Brew / SCTV?😂 I hope they’re super successful.
I was happy when they were inspired in what Aptera has done during their process of building a solar mobility vehicle. Take your time and do it right the first time! Two great individuals with dreams and the knowledge and ambition to succeed!
This was GREAT! Please check back in with them in a year. Wish I had a few million to buy these scrappers a sweet shop!
Been watching these guys for months. I love these Guys...GO Edison!!!
I've been following these guys for a good long while. I've watched him build Carl and build topsy. You're definitely committed to their dream. Very inspirational.
That was lovely! I hadn't heard of them before, but I love that they're coming from the problem space, rather than outside and porting a solution to a new context.
How did Edison get into the Fully Charged Canada exhibition in September 2023?
the interview with Sandy of Munro Live was a great episode where the grumpy guy was clearly charmed by the real experience of real heavy truckers going entrepreneurial to apply electrification in a highly challenging environment. Sandy doesn’t always come out as Canadian when he is drilling down on manufacturing processes and gets caught up in partisanship. but in the truck he found a proof of electrification concept in Canadian logging practice.
I’m relieved to hear of steady progress here despite the deceptive lures of venture capital.
Electric conversion kits are doing fairly well for classic cars in the UK despite the bureaucratic hurdles. Hopefully, North American governments will see the benefit of supporting electric conversion for existing trucks after pushing so much support to new construction. Clearly existing vehicles outnumber the new and existing vehicles have proven increasingly long-lasting. so the performance benefits & harm reduction of converting the existing fleet are enormous.
In the US people are doing the conversions regardless of any incentives. Ever since Ford released the Mach E crate motor, people have been buying them.
I’ve been waiting for this for so long!! Edison motors is such an interesting company with honest wholesome values, look forward to the day I see one of their trucks on the roads (might be a while as I’m in the UK)
Great episode guys.
Well done so far. 🙌
Looking forward to seeing lots of Edison rigs in the wild! 💪🤞
Great guys. Only thing missing is toques and a two-four of beer!
Wait, I need to go put on my Edison Motors hoodie....... now I can watch this.
Fantastic interview! Been through Merritt BC many times. As a fellow Cdn, I hope that Edison Motors does very well!
I love what Edison is doing, been following them since they started on Topsy. I also think that Dodge did them a huge favor when they announced the Ramcharger 1500 with a very similar powertrain setup.
There's a 40 year decent mechanic.I love this idea. And watching a grass roots approach to it is very refreshing.
Been watching Edison since they were designing Topsy. There idea on building something then figuring out where the market is. For you for instance you built your super home, but what could you teach someone else on what not to do when designing an energy efficient home now that you know what you did not know then.
I am totally one of the 'Holy Crap' gang!! I've followed you since I first saw Topsy.
I am so impressed that you are pushing back against the VC/IPO path. Edison Motors is UNIQUE, and awesome! Following that path would ruin that reputation and probably your company.
I've been in the computer server business for 40 years. When I see software that's awesome and full of features and has great support, the company is a few people, working as a team, listening to customers, pricing to stay afloat rather than get rich. Then they sell to VCs and support goes to crap, pricing through the roof, innovation evaporates. Because now it's focus on shareholder value, not on the product and innovation. Stay true to yourselves and your vision!!
Oh and by the way, my son-in-law wants a flatbed, tri-drive with powered front axle, mounted crane, for hauling, picking, placing, concrete panels. Off road is mandatory as they are often the first guys onto a job site way before driveways etc. The crane needs to run on the battery so the crane guy can talk to the guys on the ground!
What a fantastic interview. I love the founders honest and even joyful approach.
In a similar vein, I suggest you interview McGee Young from Watt Carbon.
I have been struck by his honest and disruptive approach to the world of carbon offsets.
"Plant heat pumps rather than trees"
So proud these boys are from BC!
Great job Matt on this interview. I wish this company would start operations in US. I know they would kill it here! 👍
that was awesome, and using existing for a while technology, hope other heavy duty diesel machine makers/operators take notice and move that direction.
I enjoy the long interviews
As an investor, I'm a little biased... however the Edison motors guys are legitimate, true to themselves and are a fantastic group of people. Their product is definitely a palm-to-forehead product, but I'm so darn glad its a Canadian company doing it (I'm Canadian, might be another bias). However, the potential of their system, i think, faaaar exceeds any other EV company at the moment. So excited to see where they go, and what they do!
Awesome company. I hope they continue to do well!!!
These guys are great, been following them from the beginning!!
A tent in Fremont is a little different than a tent in Canada.
Fortunately, Edison is getting 300 acres with a shop in Donald/Golden BC Canada
They just announced they’ve bought a shop and second round of investment raised over $4 million
Edison is so open about the way they work it’s a breath of fresh air. They are not there to make money for the investors like Nikola. They are taking the right road with regards to recycling and right to repair. Edison is not about making Edison great, Edison is about making a better truck.
Great interview - interesting comments on venture capital.
These are great. Do a smaller version for 5 tons and 3 tons. I’m looking at building a box truck tiny home/camper on a 5 ton chassis. The fact that it could power the drive and power the living area would save thousands (quoted $10K-$15K for rudimentary lithium system for the accommodation).
Good BC boys. Go get ‘em.
Check out Deboss Garage. They are Edison's development team for smaller applications using a Cummins ISF 2.8
I think I've heard of this before, it's a hard core Chevy Volt! Great idea though guys, hope it works out.
Those guys are so cool. I love that video. I wish I could find some guys like that to help me with my start-up. 21st Century Sustainable City Development. I'm going to need some many types of people. I've got like 50 ideas of stuff I'm going to need to pull this off.
The company I'm mostly excited about from my home country Canada.
Proud canadian to be an investor. I wish I could have put in the full 10k. Im not and probably will never be a trucker but I believe in what these guys are doing and how their doing it.
Neat to see this.
"Truckers aren't against electric, they're against being told they have to suffer for it"
That's so huge
These guys should have a video on the main channel.
Thanks all.
Your truck should be super on icy roads as well! Vertical build excellent !!
video suggestion: Find similar series hybrid builds. What ICE's and Alternators, motors/driveshafts etc are used/best to DIY build vehicles in the same vein as Edison.
There's a nutter with a plain old genset he plugs in, in the back of his plain old EV for long trips.
There's a lot of bike stuff: Pedal + Solar + plug-in.
There's a couple of PHEV E-bikes.
There's plug in electric Velomobiles that have pedalable gensets to help with range that make cars look absolutely stupid when it comes to power per mile.
There are bikes and trikes that give cars a run for their money on pull away but top out
There's ways to get a tiny bit of wind power on bicycles etc. And less affected by crosswinds to boot! :)
Boy I bet mom’s cooking is real good and so close!
Interesting comparisons to the Tesla Semi with what these guys are doing. Looking at the cost of diesel drive train compared to hybrid one area I don't recall discussion was regen braking with safety, fuel and brake saving and noise remediation. Tesla has talked of capacitors for high voltage short term smoothing off regenerative braking. These guys ideas would be interesting. Keep up the good work. 😊
The investment option on their website is geared to large investors, they should look for more grass roots investors and allow smaller investments. Smaller investments but more investors.
Lots of paperwork and regulation is against that
They wanted to, but they were regulation gate kept out of that
I wish I wasn't so old, I'd like to work with these guys......Nothing like being around gear heads.
I am in Longmont Colorado and there is a concrete company near me that has converted their trucks to natural gas. Rather simple step to go to your rig. If you are right about NG Diesel losing tork but gaining efficiency your set up would give back the tork with a much smaller ICE. Also much less noise.
good job
Some of the BYD hybrid cars have similar setup. Watch out if BYD gets into the semi truck business.
good interview. they sound like really great guys doing things the right way.
the reason we havn't been doing this is the efficiency is generally worse. there is a main stream manufacture in the last few years who sells a hybrid car based on the same type of system. its the lowest efficiency hybrid in the market place and its only slightly better fuel economy than its normal version. they do diesel electric on trains because using gearboxes etc is extremely difficult and costly. good to see that they have made efficiency improvements. the next generation of batteries should help (double the energy density). also it opens up to use of alternative fuels. we have some trucks that use methane thats captured from rubbish dump sites. there is also dual fuel where they use hydrogen as well.
to me its more about it being a system that works rather then being the best emission friendly system. we have studies here that found even with medium ev trucks charging infrastructure is a major problem. it would be worse again for full sized trucks (which wasn't in the study). but having an in-between solution is better than nothing. unfortunately try telling the ev fan boys that.
Highway trucks are the only time they have better efficiency. With most vocational trucks they are alway ideling or stop go driving so the hybrid is far more efficient. On the logging side if the mill is close to the bottom of the hill they pretty much can run for ever without charging because of regen
I was in a Jimmy haulin' hogs ... CONVOY... mercy sakes alive.
I want to see a long haul comparison between Tesla semi and Edison truck with cost and time compared!
A great logo for Edison would be UNDER DOG (Foot on top of a dog?)
We went with an Elephant, named "Topsy" in respect for the elephant Thomas Edison Electrocuted
If electric truck technology can be figured out, complete with fast charging, that will be the tipping point of getting rid of all ICE vehicles. There will be some more battery technology improvements in 2025 and 2026 which will help.
Edison is awesome, been following them for a year or two. Maybe I need to invest something...
One thing I really want to see is an Edison truck paired with a Range Energy style trailer to make it a truly all wheel drive semi. With the generator in the Edison, the trailer also could have infinite range
Really wild General.
This is almost like the Lamborghini story 😂😂
“Go build your own truck if you don’t like the way we do it!”
“F**k You I will!”
The generator could run the whole logging camp when not used on the logging roads.
Yep. Or a hospital during a winter storm, or a water treatment plant during a flood, or , or ,or An Edison truck can drive power to the powerless.
When pick up trucks?
Watch "DeBoss Garage" videos (they are Edison's partner subcontracted to develope conversion kits for pickup trucks).
Let's try and rally our reps to open up retrofit
These guys give me hope. For any potential investors out there already in the trucking industry: investing in them won't lead to your extinction, it'll lead to your evolution and everyone else's. So put yourself and these guys in the lead instead of the clowns at Tesla.
I don't get why Hybrids are not more looked in to. We have gas station all over the place but almost no charging stations. It like big car companies don't want to have a good transition period. Great video as always.
Truckers building a truck from scratch…. lol. The Tony Starks of a working man’s truck !!!
why not a multi fuel micro turbine as the generator?
They are coming at this from a reliability and serviceability standpoint. There's an established maintenance industry that already has the tooling and training to work on diesel engines. A turbin is a completely different ballgame with little to no specialized support. Another quirk about turbines is they offer really high power density but are not all that efficient compared to a reciprocating engine.
Chase always go on a tangent
This was always the best approach. No hint sight. But established brands are bot interested in shaking up the market and writibg of existing production lines.
And the "green" movement is useless. They have their head in the clouds. They want the all or nothing approach which leads to resistance. The range anxiety. We need a common sense economic approach. It it the bottom line that matters. If you can make it work financially it means you're on the right path. If your idea is not economic it means your chasing shadows.
Love their work.
I used to do lpg and natural gas conversions. No tax.
i implore you to do a video about the making of topsy on the undecided channel
I 2nd the motion. I call the motion to a vote. The ayes have it. Motion is approved.
I'm a but surprised the Not Matt Feerell brother didn't realise that logging trucks are powered by Electricicitree.
A children's book staple. 😅
Sounds more like a "dad" joke to me. Wouldn't it be Electricitree?
In 1963 an Italian tractor manufacturer had a dispute with Ferrari and said "OK, I'll build my own" and Lamborghini was born. And is arguably better than a Ferrari.
Edison is going after a different market than the Semi - one that was getting NO interest whatsoever.
They should talk with Warren Buffet. Hes a big train guy and think he'd love these guys and totally get it.
a "putt putt" diesel... thanks for a good laugh
Fill in the blank in the front. Mazda Rotary generator from the MX-30 r-ev. Just to mess with people.
Which one of you is MOBY though ?!?
the crowdfunding phase went to fast...
Chace could go on an hour long rant of planned obsolescents and I'd listen to it.
Caroll Shelby, in an interview years ago said, the auto industry should've gon hybrid long before the Prius came into existence. There could have been a lot more performance potential in modifying. Hybrids haven't caught on because the options, lets face it kind of suck. The Prius lacks the get up and go you'd want and the styling is not great.
Edison Motors is doing it right, electric drivetrain with a generator under the hood. One thing they did not touch on, was in Canada, they can consider the truck as electric, meaning they can have a higher capacity of like an additional 1500kg (3306lbs) vs a standard diesel semi truck. Another way they arw doing it right is, wanting to break the truck so they know where to improve it. Sure manufacturers might do a couple, but they don't do enough testing with production vehicles, because there are so many problems off the factory when they are put together.
I can't wait until their trucks end up in the States.
6:10 '95 kilowatt hour generator' - that's a strange error from someone in the business. Generators are rated in kilowatts, their output.
For a while he has been using the same error (off by nearly an order of magnitude, assuming 8h charge time) to claim that the grid can't handle electric trucks.
I was waiting for you to ask if Chase and his partner have been approached by any of the “ big boys” of the industry ? Tesla, Caterpillar, General Electric about a buy out? It must be tempting to do what a lot startups do, sell and walk away with a fistful of dollars, and regretfully wonder for the rest of your life what might have been. I wonder if they have ever spoken to Musk .? I love to hear that conversation 😊
Edison makes solar light towers on trailers for site work and they are sold by Fenning Caterpillar. Those solar rigs use Caterpillar solar panels and Edison powers their tent and work site from them as well. I think it would be hard to buy these guys out. They are doing it because they love the trucks, the vocational industry, and they want to see heavy vocational trucks being built in BC again. I think Chace would love it if Edison becomes the modernized reincarnation of Pacific, building skookum trucks focused on the driver and the job. They are true believers in what they are doing. It makes a big difference.
That is why they did things like the sponsored electric go kart kits and competition for the high schools. Their dream and focus is upon much more than making money. It is about making something special to them.
Couldn't the mining industry, which uses electric vehicles, get behind this "drive" to convert vehicles. The number of onsite pick-up trucks alone in a large mine's fleet would benefit for this. Let alone the specialty vehicles that can run in a very similar method to the Edison rigs (like Topsee)?
I think in mining where they are operating within a limited area, battery swapping would be more appropriate. In the long run we have to phase out Diesel use. Hybrids can only be a stepping stone to the future.
About Mining. Edison just announced that they're making a diesel/electric toyota landcruiser for a mining company. Battery power for underground and dinosaur power for above ground.
Let’s see trucks operating.
Hmm, you know natural gas also means you could run bio-gas that all animal farms make. In Finland we have shitload of trucks and tractors that literally run with a fermented pigshit made in small units in farms where they grow the animals and fun thing is, it's the same darn methane in there that you get from oil industry, but now it's a by-product from farming that gets used, instead of just letting it loose. This would make it carbon negative as well!
It's sad they didn't say their EV with on board level4 supercharger, truck weighs LESS than a pure diesel alternative,
How does a L4 charger differ from L3?
@jamesphillips2285 power delivery level 3 is up to 300kW, but that is common definition not necessarily precise.
@@bartoszskowronski I guess it makes sense to call Megawatt class chargers level 4.
You should think about big air storage and compressor you and a lot things with extra air supply air jacks tire inflation cleaning thing hot air in winter
Bald guy with glasses, is a bald guy with glasses? I am only here to listen and watch a bald guy with glasses to explain stuff I already know :D
They should partner with Taylor Swift and make some new trucks for hauling her next tour - that would be a hilarious collaboration.
I love this channel and your content, but I think you should rename the channel it should be TBH (Two Bald Heads)