@EdisonMotors If you guys happen to have an engineering internship available let me know I'd love to pitch in some ideas and make some solutions and would be even more eager to learn from you guys I think you are doing a great job
he didn't mention that they will be using scania diesel engines that meet all emission specs without a DPF which is huge especially a truck in the bush where you don't want to start a forest fire
His graph in the dust explanation of the power required was genius. I now understand not just the Tesla truck better but why a delivery truck or SUV would want a hybrid solution vs all electric.
A delivery truck is probably the best option to go all electric, because they aren't going that far, and come back to the depot every night where they could charge. The hybrid really makes sense for trucks that often don't come home at night, like construction or logging trucks. If the Edison is as open as it looks, the nice thing is that someone can build a bigger battery pack for the truck in 5 years time, or even replace the generator, when the infrastructure is there to support electric trucks in more use cases.
@daveansell1970 Agreed, EVs on highway, they will have infrastructure and good charging as they expand. EV had far less parts. But this truck is great for in the middle of nowhere. And odd weather in mountain country.
Hybrid diesel/electric main advantage is energy recaptured while going down hill or slowing for a corner or stop sign/light… transit buses and mountain logging trucks , that’s where this system would the most sense
He is an amazing electric redneck. I had a good chat with him and his team at Electrify Everything. Those trucks and the unique batteries to have MW levels of regen is awesome.
Two of my favorite channels together! Edison Motors is doing what my brothers and I have though was the right idea for years, it makes SO MUCH sense and is so obvious that it nearly smacks you in the face. Tow trucks are another perfect application: All that time sitting with a big clattering diesel idling to run some hydraulics, that's just silly! Oh and Right to Repair? ALL IN!! I work for a company that repairs equipment in data centers and we see every day new attempts by the manufacturers to lock in their services and force people into replacement rather than maintain current gear. Horrible for the environment!
one of the most under talked about companies on youtube.... i have a few like Archer and eHang also... or electric outboard motors for small boats and fisherman, solar and electric battert are innovating every year now, like the cpu used to do
everyone who has thought it through will arrive at the same place, EV + gasoline generator. but your overlords want to push pure electric vehicles to be dependent on the grid, so they can turn it off any time they want.
@@brusso456 Do you happen to own your own refinery and oil well? Cause if not, you're not holding on for long in case "they" turn them off. Also, you know you can buy your own solar panels or even a generator driven by a steam engine that can run on anything that burns, right?
To be fair to the diesel mechanical trucks: Joel's straight piped Kenworth does sound so beautiful. It may be less efficient, way more work & harder to learn; but it just sounds so good.
I know others like the sound, but to me, I just hear one truck that sounds like it's trying so hard to keep up with the truck that's silently and effortlessly passing it. So I hear "try hard" vs "effortless power".
Thank you for coming up to Canada and taking a look at this company. I followed some struggles they’ve had over the last two years, and they just tried to bring a solution quickly to an industry that usually moves slowly for acknowledging improvement
I’d like to point out the fact that if you have a cement truck with this set up you can pour concrete after hours with on a job site that would normally have to shut down because of the noise pollution….
I've been think converting garbage trucks would be ideal. They are stop and go other than when they are driving to the landfill. Sure you could fully electrify it but if you could get away with only firing up the diesel engine once a day the battery pack could be much smaller which would be less weight and cost. An even smaller diesel engine would be fine for that. Run on electric for the stop and go and then when you are on the higher speed road where it's steady going the diesel can run. The advantage with that would also be up here in Canada with it being so cold during those cold few months you could have a diesel heater in the truck. Those diesel heaters are extremely efficient. Like .1 liters of diesel per hour for 2 kw of heat.
@ And another good point is taking an old garbage truck that has good bones and converting it,will keeping it greener and there are tax incentives and other things to consider when recycling….
@pin65371 I remember Wrightspeed Fulcrum being for exactly that almost a decade ago, but no clue what happened to the project. Seems like a good idea to me.
@pin65371 I thought about garbage trucks and even city buses with their stop and go cycles. Regarding garbage trucks, I would say that a lot of the noise produced is actually the hydraulics and the clattering of all the mechanical hardware in the compactor. The engine noise would still be there, but could be a constant hum of a smaller displacement motor running a steady rpm. Nevertheless, the efficiency improvements and possibly wear and tear reduction on drivetrain and brakes would be an advantage.
@@martinliehs2513 Maintenance costs drop dramatically!!!! And you could sound proof some of the hydraulic noises . They didn’t think about sound proofing when they manufactured them … and think about automation in the greasing points … cut down on the maintenance even more …
@@dertythegrower true! but biodiesel gels at 30-40F. It becomes more of a nuisance in colder climates and requires additives. it also requires a complete overhaul of the fuel system, as biodiesel eats through standard fuel lines and gaskets.
Edison Motors is such a great company. I can't wait to be able to have a few of our trucks converted. Love their ethics, their ideas, their execution, they're phenomenal
the great thing about the diesel engine is that it can be easily made to run on biodiesel which is just recycled coocking oil or animal fats from food industry or even sewage recycling....
Ricki, I've been watching your videos and sharing them with friends, but more importantly, my four grandchildren, for about 4 years now. I have to say that this has been one of your best videos ever. I grew up in the forest industries in Washington. I've owned and driven class 8 trucks a lot of miles. both on the highways and the vocational market as well. These trucks are nothing but stupendous! I have a close friend in Merritt, B.C. who lives across Coldwater Road from Chace's property where they built their first trucks. I see an enormous possibility for their trucks. I will be making a trip up to visit my buddy soon and meeting Chace, Eric, and the gang to see what they are up to. I now live in Sweden and can see endless possibilities for Edison's work there. I am really looking forward to the future. I saw your panel interview last night and discovered this now. Thank you so very much for the fine work that you do. This video will help you create a bridge in the gap between the more white collar class and the working class viewers. I encourage you to remember that there are plenty of highly educated blue collar types that chose to not sit under fluorescent or LED lights for their entire careers. A lot of us are very creative and current on new and emerging technologies. Getting dirty at a person's play on the weekend might have a whole new meaning for those of us that choose to get dirty for work and play........and we know how to 'clean-up well' for when we go to town.
Amazing, yes I absolutely adore our truck drivers, and electricians and contractors and farmers and so much more. Hard to imagine life without them! This episode was my favorite of the year to film, and the Edison team is just amazing. they are such a great group and you'll love your time with them! Cheers and thank you so much for your wonderful comment, you made my day!
Thanks for supporting Canadian companies! In the future when Edison gets a running prototype, please do a video on their pickup size retrofit hybrid kit.
I've no personal need for such a rig, but Edison deserves success. I straightforward, customer focused team who is not out to screw the little guy at every change. The world needs more people like this.
Trucks in Alaska's North Slope oil field sometimes get started in fall and don't get turned off (except to change oil) until spring. Because it's so hard to start a cold motor at 40- or 60-, it's easier to just leave them running 24/7. These trucks may only have a few scores of thousands of miles on the odometer but they have thousands of hours of idle run time.
And in favor of the edison truck the coolant used to cool/heat the batterys also circulates through the engine block it also has a supimentary diesel coolant heater so as long as you have diesel in the tanks it will be warm and start without needing to idle for 5 months.
This is absolutely awesome Ricky. You're exposing your whole audience to To this and I bet seventy five percent of them didn't even know something like this existed.
As a Canadian it’s especially great to see Edison (and Deboss) working on this for trucks. … 1:00 Alex from Auto Buyers Guide demonstrated pairing a generator with batteries in his review of the F150 hybrid (Powerboost).
In another Edison video Chace from Edison and Rich from Deboss garage were testing Topsy's limits and it appears the instant torque is capable of drifting at high-ish speeds on a gravel road
Logging in the PNW, trees are up in the mountains and get hauled down to mills. Charge battery on the way down, use the power to go back up, probably wouldn't us much if any diesel.
Thank You for helping Edison for more views. Are you going to also make another video on their pickup conversions between Edison Motors and Deboss Garage? I hope you do. I love the ideas Edison has come up with and I love that they are planning on conversions of pickup trucks. I have a 1996 Dodge Ram 2500 HD 5.9 Gas (one year newer than they are prototype converting right now). The truck is in generally great shape but when the engine and/or trans goes out I would love to do their conversion. Drive it around town and all electric all the time and recharge at home. Go on long trips with my 5th wheel RV and have the diesel generator to keep me going and allow for much more efficient and cleaner than the standard gas/diesel vehicles. It just makes sense. Edison’s idea for this is the refit of purpose built vehicles like tow trucks and vehicle maintenance type trucks that go help. They drive tons of miles. The vehicle itself is in great condition but the drivetrain is shot. EV conversion makes a lot of sense because you replace the worn out drivetrain with a drivetrain that should last a lot longer, be more energy efficient, and put in a range extender generator to make sure they can keep working past the battery charge. It is just great!
In a few months when Rich at Deboss garage has the pickup truck prototype driving around on its electric motor powered e-axles, I would LOVE to see a 2BD video pointing out the advantages and challenges.
Ty for bringing Edison Motors to the show. I have been watching them for awhile now and believe they are doing what big companies dont want to do. God bless you for shedding the light on the path to helping humanity get past old school tech.
Diesel-electric is a timeless classic, and even better with modern battery technology and management. Also I didn't catch if these have them but hub-motors on every wheel on a big rig would be sweet on muddy logging roads and build sites.
I really like how they are for right to repair, and just everything they're doing. I would love to see them get into regular consumer trucks too. The approach of running an electric motor and having a generator makes so much sense too, not sure why not many companies are doing this.
Former OTR driver here. I am all for a hybrid/electric truck, with their torque it makes sense but for OTR the cost and weight penalties I can't imagine it makes business sense. This type of applications seems perfect. Short haul, regional, yard dogs. Right now they're building a new Intel plant with these "Super loads" in my home town, loads exceeding 300,000lbs in cases but very short haul, would seem perfect to me for a use like that.
Topsy is built super heavy for its intended use case but chase did say his first prototype dropped 300 lbs by going hybrid. So converting a clasic truck should have no weight penelty vs the purr diesel rig. Since the smaller engine and generator is around the same weight as the engine and trans that came out.
that steering wheel off center on the diesel truck would drive me crazy....that was my job for 20 yrs and THAT was the biggest pet peeve to drivers....and me too
huh. I didn't realize that other class 8 semi's were also center seating, center steering. Today I learned something new :) Well the Topsy truck shown in this video is a prototype. From what I've seen the first 3 of the first 11 production trucks have been chosen by their buyers as traditional normal left seat steering/driving.
I know video was short to show it all, but I think the ability to run in pure electric mode was kinda missed. As well as all the applications where the batteries provide a power source for the job site. This really is so versatile for the vocational work space. Trying to figure out how to invest, but I'm out of the USA right now...
I am at the beginning of the video but the second I saw you did a video on Chase’s little thing and clicked immediately. Edison has an idea that if Chase can keep it together like he has been will change the industrial vehicle market in my area of the country forever.
Now this is where electrification needs to go. Hybrid trucks. Most of the ev advantages, with few of the disadvantages. With the smaller IC engine it also makes sense. As a part time otr driver i prefer traditional left seat driving. I can see why they like center driver in a vocational truck but otr ill stay with traditional. I believe this is the way light duty pickups will eventually go. PhEV with small ice on board generator. Finally something that makes sense for a pickup.
I’ve been following Aptera for years. Also, Telo (little electric truck) is new but I’m a big fan. I’ve watched a few videos now about Edison. All these company gives me the same feeling - hope.
man, can't wait to see some of the trucks that receive this drivetrain. it's so nice and hybrid makes sense for most people in the personal car space. some find all electric perfect but for my situation, i can't home charge all the time and fast charging is almost as costly as just filling up at the pump. but i'd live a plug in hybrid. can do home charging when available, and then run like a normal hybrid all other times.
I do see plenty of smaller bed trucks in the city. They're usually winching up a car away from a very angry driver who didn't pay their tickets. LOL Can't wait until they can do it quietly.
It would especially work very well in sunny and hot regions, solar panels are less efficient if they get warm, on top of a trailer they get cooled while driving.
The military applications are enormous. With a modular powerplant, it can be swapped out quickly for repairs or upgrading for mission. It can run silent, and the powerplant can be very useful for cutting-edge military energy applications. Add a motor to every wheel and get all wheel drive with zero turn radius.
@@1800imawake I am pretty sure future armoured vehicles will be diesel/electric. 1) high torque at low RPM 2) silent 3) redundancy 4) stationary powersource diesel or battery 5) lot of electricity for energy weapons 6) solid state batteries are just another layer of armour.
Railroads have employed diesel-electric technology in their locomotive for a century now, and battery powered vehicles have been around longer than that. The tech has been available seemingly forever; a lot of heavy construction equipment utilizes it. Why vocations haven't used it in their trucks has puzzled me for many years.
Both of you commenters are correct. There is indeed an up front cost increase that is a tough sell. Also the hope and expectation is that the reduced fuel costs over the life of the vehicle will more than cover the up front cost.
I have been a subscriber to both channels for awhile now. First time I have had a cross over….awesome…..it’s not even my birthday……….i do miss the squirrel…..JUSTICE FOR PEANUT…….
6:15 I have been following Edison Motors for a while: and this is the first time I have seen confirmation that it supports CCS1 fast charging. I think they maybe over-emphasize how useful the generator is. Edit: and first time I saw the generator running too!
The generator allows the entire work day when it is mid haul and allows the vehicle to travel to potentially remote sites. Ideally it will see little or no use in many locations but for some it will be part of the daily process. They need it to allow the required flexibility but for some vocational trucks pure electric could work but then its a small segment of an already small segment.
Theyve said in the past that there would be nothing stopping someone from just replacing the generator with more batteries, but a generator is important for what theyre looking for with logging where they wont have access to a charger for their 12+ hr shift
I loved the trucking version of Tableau when he made the graphs on the Dusty surface. What a cool and unique way to explain things. This guy could be a college professor!!
I remember watching a broadcast about semi trucks running on battery power and in that broadcast there was an australian company called Janus Electric which convert diesel powered trucks into electric ones, however, I think the most impressive part is how simple it is to swap batteries - do check them out !
Can you do a spotlight on the hybrid airliners that are under development? The stuff they are doing there are amazing!! Just like this was. Thank you for yet another great video!
Diesel electric have been powering train etc engines since the early 1900s and replaced steam steam locomotives by the late 1950s and then completely by the 1960s. Today ships are changing to diesel electric and LNG (liquid natural gas) with more coming online monthly. The USA Navy uses nuclear power to create steam to drive turbines that generate electricity and propulsion.
Most industrial applications when very high torque is needed they use diesel generator and electric engine to move the truck. I'm thinking in giant lifters (200 ton at once), giant mining trucks, diesel trains, etc. So it amaze me why isn't that tech more prevalent in normal cars, trucks, etc
I worked on a bed truck for years we did way more then 30 miles a day sometimes 800km per day if we where moving a rig far away we’d go with driving the bed
I worked on a mine site that had road trans pulling 4 trailers with rock doing 45 min round trips with lots of stop starts this would of been way better with out the diesel dust
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Thanks for coming out to visit. We hope the off grid cabins weren't too cold for you
You guys are doing an amazing job, keep it up and I wish you both continued success
Never stop being awesome
Make your stock public on the New York stock exchange so we can invest in you. This is game changing technology and designed excellently
@EdisonMotors
If you guys happen to have an engineering internship available let me know I'd love to pitch in some ideas and make some solutions and would be even more eager to learn from you guys
I think you are doing a great job
Only Problem is you guys are based in canada where the government and its employees are corrupt af. Better shift to us. You gonna get a lot of support
he didn't mention that they will be using scania diesel engines that meet all emission specs without a DPF which is huge especially a truck in the bush where you don't want to start a forest fire
good point! yes ... this was probably a 1.5 hour episode, bound to miss some stuff, but yah thanks!
As a trucker, I am 100% behind Edison Motors.
that's awesome and I agree!
His graph in the dust explanation of the power required was genius. I now understand not just the Tesla truck better but why a delivery truck or SUV would want a hybrid solution vs all electric.
@@christiankruse1970 with the middle finger too...😁
He's got blue collar hands and a white collar mind. Gotta love it!
A delivery truck is probably the best option to go all electric, because they aren't going that far, and come back to the depot every night where they could charge.
The hybrid really makes sense for trucks that often don't come home at night, like construction or logging trucks.
If the Edison is as open as it looks, the nice thing is that someone can build a bigger battery pack for the truck in 5 years time, or even replace the generator, when the infrastructure is there to support electric trucks in more use cases.
@daveansell1970 Agreed, EVs on highway, they will have infrastructure and good charging as they expand. EV had far less parts. But this truck is great for in the middle of nowhere. And odd weather in mountain country.
Hybrid diesel/electric main advantage is energy recaptured while going down hill or slowing for a corner or stop sign/light… transit buses and mountain logging trucks , that’s where this system would the most sense
Yes Edison deserves this spotlight!!
He is an amazing electric redneck. I had a good chat with him and his team at Electrify Everything. Those trucks and the unique batteries to have MW levels of regen is awesome.
Two of my favorite channels together! Edison Motors is doing what my brothers and I have though was the right idea for years, it makes SO MUCH sense and is so obvious that it nearly smacks you in the face. Tow trucks are another perfect application: All that time sitting with a big clattering diesel idling to run some hydraulics, that's just silly!
Oh and Right to Repair? ALL IN!! I work for a company that repairs equipment in data centers and we see every day new attempts by the manufacturers to lock in their services and force people into replacement rather than maintain current gear. Horrible for the environment!
one of the most under talked about companies on youtube.... i have a few like Archer and eHang also... or electric outboard motors for small boats and fisherman, solar and electric battert are innovating every year now, like the cpu used to do
everyone who has thought it through will arrive at the same place, EV + gasoline generator.
but your overlords want to push pure electric vehicles to be dependent on the grid, so they can turn it off any time they want.
Repo men about to swoop in completely silent.
No need to turn off the grid. Tesla can brick any of their cars remotely.
@@brusso456 Do you happen to own your own refinery and oil well? Cause if not, you're not holding on for long in case "they" turn them off. Also, you know you can buy your own solar panels or even a generator driven by a steam engine that can run on anything that burns, right?
This is what I love. People looking at a problem, then looking at all available technologies, and using the best fit for each usage case.
100% agree with yah!
To be fair to the diesel mechanical trucks: Joel's straight piped Kenworth does sound so beautiful.
It may be less efficient, way more work & harder to learn; but it just sounds so good.
It’s pretty hard to beat 8in straight pipes screaming straight up eh hahahaha
I know others like the sound, but to me, I just hear one truck that sounds like it's trying so hard to keep up with the truck that's silently and effortlessly passing it. So I hear "try hard" vs "effortless power".
@@truhartwood3170 what your hearing is 700 plus ponies screaming down the road
@@Berta_Bros yeah, the straight pipe generator on ours just doesn’t sound as nice as your truck running through the gears
@@EdisonMotors no but it still barks pretty hard when she’s runnin tho. It’s damn near just as loud haha
Thank you for coming up to Canada and taking a look at this company. I followed some struggles they’ve had over the last two years, and they just tried to bring a solution quickly to an industry that usually moves slowly for acknowledging improvement
I’d like to point out the fact that if you have a cement truck with this set up you can pour concrete after hours with on a job site that would normally have to shut down because of the noise pollution….
I've been think converting garbage trucks would be ideal. They are stop and go other than when they are driving to the landfill. Sure you could fully electrify it but if you could get away with only firing up the diesel engine once a day the battery pack could be much smaller which would be less weight and cost. An even smaller diesel engine would be fine for that. Run on electric for the stop and go and then when you are on the higher speed road where it's steady going the diesel can run. The advantage with that would also be up here in Canada with it being so cold during those cold few months you could have a diesel heater in the truck. Those diesel heaters are extremely efficient. Like .1 liters of diesel per hour for 2 kw of heat.
@ And another good point is taking an old garbage truck that has good bones and converting it,will keeping it greener and there are tax incentives and other things to consider when recycling….
@pin65371
I remember Wrightspeed Fulcrum being for exactly that almost a decade ago, but no clue what happened to the project. Seems like a good idea to me.
@pin65371 I thought about garbage trucks and even city buses with their stop and go cycles.
Regarding garbage trucks, I would say that a lot of the noise produced is actually the hydraulics and the clattering of all the mechanical hardware in the compactor. The engine noise would still be there, but could be a constant hum of a smaller displacement motor running a steady rpm. Nevertheless, the efficiency improvements and possibly wear and tear reduction on drivetrain and brakes would be an advantage.
@@martinliehs2513 Maintenance costs drop dramatically!!!! And you could sound proof some of the hydraulic noises . They didn’t think about sound proofing when they manufactured them … and think about automation in the greasing points … cut down on the maintenance even more …
Its a beautiful symbiotic relationship to achieve efficiency and reliability. Really excited to get the kit to convert my cummins trucks.
Also, algae and hemp biodiesel, trucks have run on it before here...
@@dertythegrower true! but biodiesel gels at 30-40F. It becomes more of a nuisance in colder climates and requires additives. it also requires a complete overhaul of the fuel system, as biodiesel eats through standard fuel lines and gaskets.
@@WattsMiner I can't wait to get that kit in my Isuzu. I am going to miss my exhaust brake though. Take your foot off that go button and it hisses.
Was awesome having you stay down at our farm! You fellas ever come back up to Alberta don’t be shy the cabins always there!
We love Edison a lot! You guys deserve to be in the spotlight 🎉
Edison Motors is such a great company. I can't wait to be able to have a few of our trucks converted. Love their ethics, their ideas, their execution, they're phenomenal
They're really doing incredible things!
the great thing about the diesel engine is that it can be easily made to run on biodiesel which is just recycled coocking oil or animal fats from food industry or even sewage recycling....
in many cities around the world they have vehicles running on biogas or biodiesel from community waste recycling.
Buld kits rember so a qualifed istaller could come to you to install all edison parts
Ricki, I've been watching your videos and sharing them with friends, but more importantly, my four grandchildren, for about 4 years now. I have to say that this has been one of your best videos ever. I grew up in the forest industries in Washington. I've owned and driven class 8 trucks a lot of miles. both on the highways and the vocational market as well. These trucks are nothing but stupendous! I have a close friend in Merritt, B.C. who lives across Coldwater Road from Chace's property where they built their first trucks. I see an enormous possibility for their trucks. I will be making a trip up to visit my buddy soon and meeting Chace, Eric, and the gang to see what they are up to. I now live in Sweden and can see endless possibilities for Edison's work there. I am really looking forward to the future. I saw your panel interview last night and discovered this now. Thank you so very much for the fine work that you do. This video will help you create a bridge in the gap between the more white collar class and the working class viewers. I encourage you to remember that there are plenty of highly educated blue collar types that chose to not sit under fluorescent or LED lights for their entire careers. A lot of us are very creative and current on new and emerging technologies. Getting dirty at a person's play on the weekend might have a whole new meaning for those of us that choose to get dirty for work and play........and we know how to 'clean-up well' for when we go to town.
Amazing, yes I absolutely adore our truck drivers, and electricians and contractors and farmers and so much more. Hard to imagine life without them! This episode was my favorite of the year to film, and the Edison team is just amazing. they are such a great group and you'll love your time with them! Cheers and thank you so much for your wonderful comment, you made my day!
@@TwoBitDaVinci Detsamma till dig lillebror.
Thanks for supporting Canadian companies! In the future when Edison gets a running prototype, please do a video on their pickup size retrofit hybrid kit.
Such a great video thanks for shedding some light on this Ricky
So happy you made a video about Edison Motors! Been following them for a while on tiktok. They deserve a lot more press than they have been getting.
There are so many possibilities with this truck. You could use it for disaster relief to drive in supplies and power a relief center.
Edison motors open sourced their project and and are restoring the love
I've no personal need for such a rig, but Edison deserves success. I straightforward, customer focused team who is not out to screw the little guy at every change. The world needs more people like this.
I REALLY hope that Edison Motors makes it, and makes it BIG!
Trucks in Alaska's North Slope oil field sometimes get started in fall and don't get turned off (except to change oil) until spring. Because it's so hard to start a cold motor at 40- or 60-, it's easier to just leave them running 24/7. These trucks may only have a few scores of thousands of miles on the odometer but they have thousands of hours of idle run time.
And in favor of the edison truck the coolant used to cool/heat the batterys also circulates through the engine block it also has a supimentary diesel coolant heater so as long as you have diesel in the tanks it will be warm and start without needing to idle for 5 months.
Thanks
Ricky thank you for coming to Canada showcasing this awesome awesome company
I love the dust graph peak load explainer! 😂
This is absolutely awesome Ricky. You're exposing your whole audience to To this and I bet seventy five percent of them didn't even know something like this existed.
About time someone talked about Edison Motors trucks... the tank pull video they did proved a lot
The tank pull video is impressive and its from about a year ago and is available on the Deboss Garage TH-cam channel.
They have pulled more now. I think they were saying they have towed 150k lbs now.
I have watched a lot of Edison motors videos.But yours informed me even more than there's excellent job.Thank you
As a Canadian it’s especially great to see Edison (and Deboss) working on this for trucks. … 1:00 Alex from Auto Buyers Guide demonstrated pairing a generator with batteries in his review of the F150 hybrid (Powerboost).
Driving an EV with a built-in 2 cylinder generator the past 4 years & 115k miles (i3 REx) has made me a believer in Edison's concept.
Great analogies!
10:12 - Did he just tell us that semi will drift without telling us that semi will drift?
In another Edison video Chace from Edison and Rich from Deboss garage were testing Topsy's limits and it appears the instant torque is capable of drifting at high-ish speeds on a gravel road
😂😂 I thought the same thing....did he just say kick the back end out 🤣
Logging in the PNW, trees are up in the mountains and get hauled down to mills. Charge battery on the way down, use the power to go back up, probably wouldn't us much if any diesel.
Edison motors is changing the world! If this methodology and design philosophy is adopted more broadly great things will happen!
Glad you got to go hang out there! Super cool!
I think this is a very brilliant intro to Edison, the Cabin analogie is very brilliant
The dust drawings on the truck hood were really useful.
Chace graphing on the hood is iconic
So glad you are covering Edison motors they are one of my favourite companies
Thanks for covering this. I learned of Edison Motors on TH-cam when they got government recognition earlier this year. Rooting for them.
Thank You for helping Edison for more views. Are you going to also make another video on their pickup conversions between Edison Motors and Deboss Garage? I hope you do. I love the ideas Edison has come up with and I love that they are planning on conversions of pickup trucks. I have a 1996 Dodge Ram 2500 HD 5.9 Gas (one year newer than they are prototype converting right now). The truck is in generally great shape but when the engine and/or trans goes out I would love to do their conversion. Drive it around town and all electric all the time and recharge at home. Go on long trips with my 5th wheel RV and have the diesel generator to keep me going and allow for much more efficient and cleaner than the standard gas/diesel vehicles. It just makes sense. Edison’s idea for this is the refit of purpose built vehicles like tow trucks and vehicle maintenance type trucks that go help. They drive tons of miles. The vehicle itself is in great condition but the drivetrain is shot. EV conversion makes a lot of sense because you replace the worn out drivetrain with a drivetrain that should last a lot longer, be more energy efficient, and put in a range extender generator to make sure they can keep working past the battery charge. It is just great!
In a few months when Rich at Deboss garage has the pickup truck prototype driving around on its electric motor powered e-axles, I would LOVE to see a 2BD video pointing out the advantages and challenges.
Ty for bringing Edison Motors to the show. I have been watching them for awhile now and believe they are doing what big companies dont want to do. God bless you for shedding the light on the path to helping humanity get past old school tech.
in these sorts of applications fuel usage is measured in volume per hour and in farming we also use volume per area worked like litres per hectare.
Canada is doing these guys dirty not throwing all its green money at amazing ideas like this.
Fantastic common sense idea!!! 👏
I super agree that this is common sense idea :)
🔥GO EDISON🔥
Yes! So glad to see the boys getting some recognition by ev publication
Awesome. Proud of this Canadian company and their innovations as well as their giterdone attitude.
Diesel-electric is a timeless classic, and even better with modern battery technology and management.
Also I didn't catch if these have them but hub-motors on every wheel on a big rig would be sweet on muddy logging roads and build sites.
Production Edison trucks have dual motors on the e-axle pumpkin and reduction gears in the hubs
I really like how they are for right to repair, and just everything they're doing. I would love to see them get into regular consumer trucks too. The approach of running an electric motor and having a generator makes so much sense too, not sure why not many companies are doing this.
Former OTR driver here. I am all for a hybrid/electric truck, with their torque it makes sense but for OTR the cost and weight penalties I can't imagine it makes business sense. This type of applications seems perfect. Short haul, regional, yard dogs. Right now they're building a new Intel plant with these "Super loads" in my home town, loads exceeding 300,000lbs in cases but very short haul, would seem perfect to me for a use like that.
Topsy is built super heavy for its intended use case but chase did say his first prototype dropped 300 lbs by going hybrid. So converting a clasic truck should have no weight penelty vs the purr diesel rig. Since the smaller engine and generator is around the same weight as the engine and trans that came out.
that steering wheel off center on the diesel truck would drive me crazy....that was my job for 20 yrs and THAT was the biggest pet peeve to drivers....and me too
huh. I didn't realize that other class 8 semi's were also center seating, center steering. Today I learned something new :) Well the Topsy truck shown in this video is a prototype. From what I've seen the first 3 of the first 11 production trucks have been chosen by their buyers as traditional normal left seat steering/driving.
Love how Edison is approaching this! Clever off-the-shelf sourcing and integration to smartly solve for efficiency and utility!
I love the amount of shade that they are throwing, Edison motors, topsy , 👌
the Edison would be great as a yard dog as well
glad you highlighted Edison! he and Rich from Deboss garage have been hard at work.
Great information. Keep them coming. I did not know vocational trucking was 33% of trucking.
Awesome to see what Edison Trucks are doing, we need solutions like this for heavy trucking on remote and rough grounds 😊❤
Great video keep it up
My company is moving to automatic only. The demand for drivers is the reason. Most the new generation can't drive a stick😢.
I'm jealous... Cool that you met each other. And thanks for what you guys do.
one of my favorite episodes of the year for sure! cheers!
Why does this truck so good.
..form follows function!
(Cars…form follows fashion)
I know video was short to show it all, but I think the ability to run in pure electric mode was kinda missed. As well as all the applications where the batteries provide a power source for the job site.
This really is so versatile for the vocational work space. Trying to figure out how to invest, but I'm out of the USA right now...
So wise , Thank You for showing Edison Motors
I am at the beginning of the video but the second I saw you did a video on Chase’s little thing and clicked immediately. Edison has an idea that if Chase can keep it together like he has been will change the industrial vehicle market in my area of the country forever.
Now this is where electrification needs to go. Hybrid trucks. Most of the ev advantages, with few of the disadvantages. With the smaller IC engine it also makes sense.
As a part time otr driver i prefer traditional left seat driving. I can see why they like center driver in a vocational truck but otr ill stay with traditional.
I believe this is the way light duty pickups will eventually go. PhEV with small ice on board generator. Finally something that makes sense for a pickup.
I’ve been following Aptera for years. Also, Telo (little electric truck) is new but I’m a big fan. I’ve watched a few videos now about Edison. All these company gives me the same feeling - hope.
Yeah I'm a big fan of Aptera too - excited to see where they land
Interesting !!! Never thought about it.
Thx. for the video.
Y'all gotta have Ave channel come dissect your truck and tell us how skookum its built.
man, can't wait to see some of the trucks that receive this drivetrain. it's so nice and hybrid makes sense for most people in the personal car space. some find all electric perfect but for my situation, i can't home charge all the time and fast charging is almost as costly as just filling up at the pump. but i'd live a plug in hybrid. can do home charging when available, and then run like a normal hybrid all other times.
I follow the Edison channel. Interesting stuff. Driving in New Zealand
yeah they make amazing content... they definitely get it
Great company. Great episode.
Edison Motors is open source truck building and that's awesome.
I do see plenty of smaller bed trucks in the city. They're usually winching up a car away from a very angry driver who didn't pay their tickets. LOL
Can't wait until they can do it quietly.
19:17 is awesome, they should make that the official designer for the truck, to experiment with what you want.
With a 53ft. trailer, you have the potential space for 8-10kw of solar panels.
Also if you had a gps and ai activated reflector panel, it could double potential on the new double sided solar technology
It would especially work very well in sunny and hot regions, solar panels are less efficient if they get warm, on top of a trailer they get cooled while driving.
The military applications are enormous. With a modular powerplant, it can be swapped out quickly for repairs or upgrading for mission. It can run silent, and the powerplant can be very useful for cutting-edge military energy applications. Add a motor to every wheel and get all wheel drive with zero turn radius.
@@1800imawake I am pretty sure future armoured vehicles will be diesel/electric.
1) high torque at low RPM
2) silent
3) redundancy
4) stationary powersource diesel or battery
5) lot of electricity for energy weapons
6) solid state batteries are just another layer of armour.
@@dertythegrower Nice idea, only applicable in the Australian outback (no power lines/overpasses).
I like the new electric driverless yard dogs used in the Buckeye, DC warehouse.
Disappointed, no mention of right to repair which I thought was equally as important as saving fuel with this Edison project. Or did I miss it?
The Edison configurator is literally American truck simulator, lol, that's awesome
i died when i saw that. 😂
Oh hell yeah, been following this
Railroads have employed diesel-electric technology in their locomotive for a century now, and battery powered vehicles have been around longer than that. The tech has been available seemingly forever; a lot of heavy construction equipment utilizes it. Why vocations haven't used it in their trucks has puzzled me for many years.
cost . these trucks will cost 25% more than straight diesel
@@ronblack7870 But if they're saving 80 dollars a shift on diesel, well you do the math.
Both of you commenters are correct. There is indeed an up front cost increase that is a tough sell. Also the hope and expectation is that the reduced fuel costs over the life of the vehicle will more than cover the up front cost.
@@Tom-dt4ic would be much more than 80 dollars with all that Regen and the smaller more efficient engine running at constant rpm as diesels love
@@cthulhuaid2998 The more the merrier.
I have been a subscriber to both channels for awhile now. First time I have had a cross over….awesome…..it’s not even my birthday……….i do miss the squirrel…..JUSTICE FOR PEANUT…….
6:15 I have been following Edison Motors for a while: and this is the first time I have seen confirmation that it supports CCS1 fast charging.
I think they maybe over-emphasize how useful the generator is.
Edit: and first time I saw the generator running too!
The generator allows the entire work day when it is mid haul and allows the vehicle to travel to potentially remote sites. Ideally it will see little or no use in many locations but for some it will be part of the daily process. They need it to allow the required flexibility but for some vocational trucks pure electric could work but then its a small segment of an already small segment.
Theyve said in the past that there would be nothing stopping someone from just replacing the generator with more batteries, but a generator is important for what theyre looking for with logging where they wont have access to a charger for their 12+ hr shift
Awesome! 🚚🚛
I’d love to see Edson motors on jay Leno, would be awesome visibility for the product
Very informative, nice work
Hell yeah Edison motors
18:40 i like how they show it all in amerucab truck simulator 2 lmao
I LOVE EDISONNNNNNNNNN
The 3-in-1 should be programable to send data at a specific rate and interval if it's overwhelming the network.
Good video Ricky
I loved the trucking version of Tableau when he made the graphs on the Dusty surface. What a cool and unique way to explain things. This guy could be a college professor!!
I never thought that I will see you both together.
I thought its not you but someone similar on interview.
I remember watching a broadcast about semi trucks running on battery power and in that broadcast there was an australian company called Janus Electric which convert diesel powered trucks into electric ones, however, I think the most impressive part is how simple it is to swap batteries - do check them out !
Yep hybrids are the answer 👁👍
For most applications fully electric is far better.
Can you do a spotlight on the hybrid airliners that are under development?
The stuff they are doing there are amazing!! Just like this was.
Thank you for yet another great video!
I dig it. Great video, Ricky.
Diesel electric have been powering train etc engines since the early 1900s and replaced steam steam locomotives by the late 1950s and then completely by the 1960s.
Today ships are changing to diesel electric and LNG (liquid natural gas) with more coming online monthly.
The USA Navy uses nuclear power to create steam to drive turbines that generate electricity and propulsion.
Most industrial applications when very high torque is needed they use diesel generator and electric engine to move the truck. I'm thinking in giant lifters (200 ton at once), giant mining trucks, diesel trains, etc. So it amaze me why isn't that tech more prevalent in normal cars, trucks, etc
I worked on a bed truck for years we did way more then 30 miles a day sometimes 800km per day if we where moving a rig far away we’d go with driving the bed
I worked on a mine site that had road trans pulling 4 trailers with rock doing 45 min round trips with lots of stop starts this would of been way better with out the diesel dust