ROBOFORMING: Behind the Scenes as Machina Labs (The Future of Metalworking) - Smarter Every Day 290B
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Can I place an order on a refrigerator front with Han Solo in carbonate? 😁
I'll take your entire stock
That's a good idea
Thats a good idea 😂
"When I said I wanted to fabricate Ford parts this wasn't what I meant!"
My man!
Mind boggling number of parameters to code for. I'm in awe of their audacity.
I wonder, how they got the money together to finance this whole hall full of robots .
@@ZoonCrypticon Considering they mentioned hypersonic aircraft in the main video... I bet you can guess where the funding comes from.. 😂
I can barely write a 10 line lua script. I can't even imagine what their code looks like. Impressive is an understatement.
First thing I thought of as an IT/SysAdmin guy... those robots must have millions of lines of code to make work.
😂😂
*Angry* "the audacity!!!""
You, *sultry* "oh, the audacity"
So I'm an EE who works in industrial manufacturing (welding robots, and some simpler machines) and these are by far the most generous with knowledge and interesting folks I've seen in ages. If they were near me I'd be trying to work with them. I'm amazed they let you film this much and I think everyone is better off for the experience!
Very true, the level of details they are willing to share, and finished as well as in progress parts, is rather surprising. It was pretty cool to see it running at Fabtech.
It's great to hear that, also their generosity in sharing knowledge and expertise can indeed have several benefits, especially for an eager startup looking to attract more customers and business partners.
By openly sharing details about their technology and expertise, the company demonstrates transparency and a willingness to educate others. This can help build trust and credibility among potential customers and partners. When a company openly shares information about their products and processes, it shows that they are confident in their capabilities and have nothing to hide.
Additionally, by providing education and knowledge to others, the company positions itself as a thought leader in the industry. This can attract like-minded individuals and organizations who value continuous learning and innovation. Collaborating with such partners can lead to new ideas, improved products, and mutually beneficial business relationships.
Furthermore, sharing knowledge can help the company establish a strong reputation in the market. As they become known for their expertise and willingness to educate others, they can attract a wider audience and increase their visibility within the industry. This can potentially lead to new business opportunities and partnerships.
Overall, the company's open approach to sharing knowledge and expertise not only benefits others by providing valuable insights, but it also helps them establish themselves as a trusted and respected player in the industrial manufacturing sector. And that shows without a doubt.
I used to run a machine shop into automated materials handling and forming. This is a dream in action!
Exactly those people wouldn’t be nothing if it wasn’t for people sharing their knowledge and experiences. People get no where if you don’t share the information. It’s not like they own the market and no one can ever be a competitor so why not share their information any one can join the market with the right tools and knowledge any one can do what they are doing and what the people who won’t share and act like it’s a top secret cia project lol
I'm also surprised how much they shared. I'm guessing they're so far ahead of their competition, that they're confident the gap can't be closed. They've reached exit velocity.
Thanks for going deeper without asking us to go to a different platform, really appreciate that.
I’m at a loss for words. I dropped out of college and took a Manufacturing Engineering job. Being in the field has actually made me want my degree more, I’m hungry for the knowledge. Inspiring to hear him talk about leaving school to go work several times. Thank you for sharing his story at the end. What an awesome video.
*in the sheet metal fab side of Manufacturing
Its fun to see the math that blacksmiths had to do by eye for hundreds of years. So many similarities between an ancient way of moving metal, and cutting edge tech.
The transition from an art to a science.
No wonder the belief that aliens built the pyramids is such a common topic of discussion!
Math defines everything. But what's more impressive, is that Machina Labs know when it's more efficient and accurate to use a trial and error methodology. True craftsmanship, at its best.
@@nc3826 early mathematicians always reverted to geometric interpretations for getting to a proof it's a wonderful point that you are making!
@@nc3826 thats why i love math. it is the foundation of everything. the world and everything in it is math. incorruptible, perfect, inarguable, static, awesome math.
I never thought I'd waste two hours watching videos about metal forming. Except it's not a waste. Thank you! I'm proud to be a patron, and I'm glad to help pay for it.
The excitement in these guys while explaining what they are doing shows how much they enjoy what they do
I made this exact comment on the other vid 👌
their eyes just light up at every point.
You gotta love what you are going to do for 40 years
This is mind tingling. I’m a glass blower and at 1h 11min he talks about re striking. It made the reasons why I form the glass, when I do through out my steps make sense to achieve an uniform wall thickness. It is so easy to unintentionally make the bottom of a glass vessel paper thin because it is having the most work done to it. Thank you so much for sharing the long form of your conversation with him!
Restriking is also common in press work. Most dies are multi-stage with multiple restrikes slowly forming a part that isn't too thin on the top or sides.
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Just the fact that these guys can reproduce car parts no longer manufactured makes me excited Obviously there are much more unique & creative markets for it but as a car guy, I can tell you that there are some body parts you just can't get anymore for classic cars without paying more than the car is worth. I would give anything to work in this facility even if I was just sweeping up after the machines
This is basically a robotic version of the same process a guy like Ron Covell would do on an English wheel.
I never thought about this in that way , the aftermarket body panels usually come from China and they have no idea what a 32 Ford fender looks like and it shows in the product
it seems like theyre gonna need some secondary process or something to smooth out the layer lines, Id dont think youd currently want this as a body panel for anything, just like you wouldnt want to 3d print one. Its amazing tech and Im sure it will continue to improve over time but right now it doesnt seem very useful for anything with smooth curves
@@SpydersByte True, but they were working on their first hood so I assume they have some of those things worked out already
While this tech is truly amazing, I can't imagine the price would be applicable for car builds. This is for really big companies with cash to spare.
The video on the main channel was magnificent, but this was next level. Absolutely brilliant video with super smart people - who are definitely getting smarter everyday. Loving this series, Destin. Thank you.
It would be interesting to see a sheet that is laser etched or something, with a checkerboard pattern, then formed into a part. I wonder if you would be able to see how the individual squares get squished and deformed. (Or maybe the pattern would just get flattened out and you wouldn't see it)
That would be measurable. Trade secrets. Notice how at the very end the speed on the gopro is never constant. Very cool idea.
The etching would change the friction at those points, might have to account for that. It's probably strong enough to flatten any surface modifications, so it would leave an eraser mark through the etched sections.
I bet that is already in their program. It would help with estimating the work hardening. Without physically printing something on the stock.
I like that idea, some real materials engineering thinking there!
G'day, They could also try forming a perferated sheet.
As an artist and trained mechanical engineer that has been shaping metal and thinking about this for years, I am blown away. The level of shear technical proficiency in so many areas is frankly awe inspiring.. Would love to work with these guys on a project sometime..
Just checked out the stuff on your channel. Very cool, I wish I went into metalworking. I always wanted to go into sculpture but simply didn’t see how I could make a living out of it so I left it behind (regrettably).
@@literallyshaking8019 Hey thanks! Yeah it can be tough, but also great.
Machina Labs website shows examples that have an artistic look about them. Even though that's not their target audience. It goes to show if you want to impress an audience, it's best to use examples that have an artistic appeal to them.
"shear technical proficiency" - I see what you did there.
Hey Destin, great to see this content. Not sure if you are aware of this, but there is an NSF ERC (National Science Foundation Engineering Research Center) that formed about a year ago. It is called HAMMER and they are focusing on "additive plus X" (i.e. additive plus forming), you might be interested in looking them up. Ohio State is the lead, with Northwestern, UT Knoxville, NC A&T, and Case Western as members. One of the professors at Northwestern, Jian Cao, has some great work on incremental sheet metal forming.
They actually had Babak do a talk for the whole HAMMER team, it was great to see that then see you bring it up again, shows that they are getting the word out even to a general audience.
Dude, you could do a full channel on this series. Keep up the amazing work.
I think Destin said the exact same words I'm thinking: "I'm in love with this place" :D
I love the people's enthusiasm, seems like a fun place to work, plus the tech is amazing. I'd never heard of this type of manufacturing, and I'm blown away n.n
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*Summary*
*Introduction and Team Members*
- *0:00**-**0:17**:* Introduction to Robo forming at Machina Labs.
- *0:48**-**1:17**:* CEO Ed talks about his background.
- *1:27**-**2:01**:* Babak, the tech partnerships head, is introduced.
*Understanding Robo Forming*
- *2:08**-**3:37**:* Robo forming mechanics and stress-strain curve.
- *3:45**-**4:51**:* Discussion about stress-strain curve specifics.
- *5:18**-**5:53**:* Interaction of end effectors and metal.
*Technology and Methods*
- *6:11**-**7:00**:* Metal magnetization in the forming process.
- *7:40**-**8:39**:* Traditional vs. Robo forming.
- *8:46**-**9:44**:* Robo forming advantages in low-volume production.
- *9:51**-**10:21**:* Cost-efficiency talk with Tesla.
- *10:27**-**10:36**:* Special project teaser.
*Software and Automation*
- *11:30**-**12:07**:* Role of software in manufacturing.
- *12:19**-**12:37**:* Flexibility in using different robotic systems.
- *12:54**-**13:33**:* Intro to Mark and his focus on robotics.
*Technical Specifications*
- *13:39**-**14:04**:* Incremental metal forming explained.
- *14:16**-**14:23**:* Safety measures.
- *14:30**-**15:12**:* Feedback and control systems in robots.
*Challenges and Calibration*
- *15:19**-**15:31**:* Support robot’s role in forming.
- *16:03**-**16:29**:* Naming the robots.
- *16:42**-**17:17**:* Control system complexities.
- *17:22**-**18:11**:* Calibration challenges.
*Advanced Techniques and Future Plans*
- *18:23**-**20:28**:* End effectors and variable boundary conditions.
- *20:40**-**21:28**:* Software stack and iterative forming.
- *21:34**-**21:46**:* Testing methods.
*Material Specifics*
- *57:01**-**58:09**:* Material differences and requirements.
- *58:18**-**1:00:15**:* Working with various metals and assembly room features.
*Theoretical Aspects and Conclusions*
- *1:02:12**-**1:03:48**:* Stiffness and design spaces.
- *1:04:43**-**1:07:22**:* Material flow and metalwork characterization.
*Benchmarking and Advantages*
- *1:08:57**-**1:09:15**:* Hydroforming comparison.
- *1:09:20**-**1:10:40**:* Faster prototyping and case study.
- *1:10:46**-**1:11:07**:* Wall angle and material thickness relationship.
*Positive Learnings:*
1. *[**00:10:30**] Software-Centric Approach:* The importance of software in enabling complex manufacturing, along with the ability to iterate rapidly based on scan data, gives Robo forming a technological edge.
2. *[**00:13:50**] Complex Geometries:* Robo forming allows for complex geometries that are difficult or impossible with traditional manufacturing methods.
3. *[**00:19:45**] Low-Volume Production:* Advantages in low-volume scenarios where the cost of creating molds would be prohibitive.
4. *[**00:21:00**] Empirical Learning:* Importance of gathering empirical data for model updates and iterative learning, bypassing the need for extensive theoretical calculations.
5. *[**00:24:15**] Material Flexibility:* Can work with a variety of materials like aluminum, galvanized steel, and even titanium.
6. *[**00:27:00**] Multi-Robot Collaboration:* Utilizing two robots provides more accurate deformation, with one offering support while the other pushes the material.
7. *[**00:30:00**] Quick Prototyping:* The method can significantly reduce prototyping times, as evidenced by the example with SpaceX [01:09:20].
*Negative Learnings:*
1. *[**00:35:30**] Time-Consuming:* Compared to traditional methods like stamping, Robo forming can be slower.
2. *[**00:38:00**] Complex Setup:* The use of seven axes and the complexity of robot setup can create barriers to entry.
3. *[**00:41:15**] Calibration Challenges:* Accurate calibrations are difficult due to factors like robot deflection under varying loads.
4. *[**00:44:10**] Cost Considerations:* There are implicit costs involved in setting up such sophisticated systems, including strong foundational requirements.
5. *[**00:47:20**] Material Constraints:* Different materials like titanium require special attention due to their unique forming rates and forces.
6. *[**00:49:40**] Hardware Limits:* Robots can only exert a limited amount of force, potentially restricting the thickness of materials used.
7. *[**00:52:30**] Need for Empirical Data:* Lack of purely theoretical models necessitates a data-driven approach, which requires its own set of resources.
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I think the very last point is worth mentioning too: the manufacturing process is quick enough that it is faster to make then to simulate
You're the real mvp. Thanks ❤.
This is awesome! I'd just like to add one time stamp that was particularly important to me, [1:06:08 ] Babak throws his paper towel away.
“Deformed areas become magnetic” Love it!! So much new tech can come from this. True micro to macro scale affects with simple deformation and removal of heat in the process.
I stopped the video and ran over to my SS sink with a magnet after that bit.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagusme too! That was a really neat demonstration of the effect.
I've got a degree in CompSci and their software sounds so cool. I'd love to be able to work on such a dynamic system like that. Sounds fun!
Indeed, I have no degree and would probably be lost at the first equations but working with industrial robots this really intrigues me, would love to see the software behind it.
It does look like a fascinating job! My brain was also on fire multiple times during the vid! 👍🏼
I think there system are continuously training on data they collecting working on sheets and it also about where we don't need robot to be very precise like on a linear path to optimize the time.
They'll be using motion controllers and servo drives for the actual machines doing the work and they come with the robot and takes care of of all of the hard work, so Machina Labs just need to tells them where to go and at what angle. One robot will be put into profile position mode and the other put into profile torque. Whatever you tell the robots to do, they'll try their hardest to reach the target.
So the interesting part that Machina Labs will do is plan the path the robot should take to get the desired angle and thickness for the parts.
Yeah, I watched this and immediately checked their careers page. They are hiring! All on-site in California, though.
I didn't know that and I've been around stainless steel before. Austenitic steel is normally non-ferromagnetic and they are changing the internal structure through working the material. Very interesting indeed. I can see why "Smarter Everyday" would say his mind is blown away. There are so many possibilities once this process gets perfected. Imagine one day a desk top model for forming small metal parts for home use.
I know this behavior from lower grades like 1.4301 and 1.4310 does it happen noticeably in alloys with more Ni also?
@@herrkulor3771 i know that 304(L), and some 4xx series stainless can exhibit this. It's particularly interesting in stainless self drillers. Between getting the threads rolled in, the tips formed, and then the whole fastener heated during install there's a fair bit of work done on them. We've had customers check to see if they are stainless using a magnet, and we have to then prove to them that we did in fact use stainless fasteners.
Stainless rigging screws, shackles and other critical highly loaded items on sailing vessels which operate close to load limits can monitored during regular rig checks to see if there has been in increase in magnetism. I say increase, because some forged or threadrolled items will exhibit a small propensity to attract iron powder as supplied, due to strain hardening during manufacture
I loved the way the guys talked about the process without saying "oh, that's a secret we can't tell you." They were very forthcoming about the process and how it all worked.
Will they ever be able to speed up to the speeds needed for mass production?
A fantastic video, thank you for making it.
They don't need to reach mass manufacturing speeds. There's a lot of things that just can't be done with other processes as well as more niche jobs that don't require millions of parts a year. The first shop I worked at focused on middle volume parts, more than a few samples but not enough to pay for a big plant to make them. It looks like this process can handle low to middle volume stuff just fine plus, as I mentioned, stuff that can't be done else-wise.
Love how Dustin finds these people who are passionate about what they do and love the learning and educational process. I love learning about something I will never use or need, but they make learning interesting and fun and exciting. Love the excitement you put into these well throughout videos
I've learned to watch the long one first. Then I watch the more edited version by skipping forward in skips of 30 seconds or so to listen to anything you insert in between edits. I sure enjoy these!
Good tip.
I wish he would upload the ultimate vid on main channel then the extra on here. I Love his vids. Watching the same content is a drag. Dont stop posting the extra on here, but get a better editor. Most of these views are coming from SED
@@mikeb3320 That would mean he would have to edit the video twice, which I assume is not worth the effort
If he edits or pay someone else, it would be absolutely worth it. More view engagement and like.
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I’ve been in machining, fabrication , and welding for my entire career. Watching this makes me so excited for the future of metalworking. Truly an amazing place that’s making huge strides with metal in todays world of composites. Thanks so much for this Destin. I love this series so much
this methodology can form objects that can't be made in a 1960's stamping ( ford as a example trying making stainless steel and widen-fender-flares-mild-steel body parts on Lincolns/mustang but the dies were destroyed after less than 100-strikes and some shapes weren't correctly done aka way to hard to produce as the plan was to release the cars without painting them and letting the dealership's/final-delivery rapp them in vinyl rapp or painting only the outside's the customer wanted in anyways, sadly that business plan for now failed ) plant so yes im excited to see how progressive they make with it
now also possible on a mass scale to remove weight without losing strength aka thinking about the acid-dipped race-car's of the 1960's-80's/cheater's car's but this is the better version of it, id hate to being the technical inspector as finding this thinning-cheat would be hard to catch on to
This gives me "how it's made " vibes and I love it.
Machina Labs thanks for reaching out to Destin. This was very interesting. Having been a machinist I found this fascinating. If I had more money than I knew what to do with. I would want a 5 ft. aluminum sailboat hull and make it radio controlled. I wish you and your company the best and you expand and grow fast. Thanks Destin for the video.
Love to see the CEO and workers taking time to do this, and working together to explain everything to you
40yr experience aerospace engineer here... completely blown away by this process, the number of variables and the total parametric possibilities of both part and the tooling. What is really impressive is the machine learning to adjust code for the next part, and think that actually means the very next adjacent part on the same stock sheet!!! I am a dinosaur; time to roll over me thinks!! BTW, great channel!!
Awesome. I've been involved with machining, designing, building, and installing industry equipment for the woodwork industry for 35 years. One company I worked for in the mid-90s tried to interlude robotics to the woodworking guys. We already sold CNC Routers, and I already knew how to program CNCs, then was fortunate to get involved with the robotics. We were on the cutting edge back in those days. At least, that's what we thought. Seeing how far robotics has advanced today is absolutely mind-blowing. Your content is most times over my head, but right in my wheelhouse. I'm never bored and always feel like my brain is left starving for more, and I can't wait to see what your next video will bring. Thanks for sharing all your content.
thanks to you/others in the 2000's in my high school/extra-curricular schooling choices ( thing's that school districts are trying to cutting costs on or cancel programs sadly ) i took CAM ( as a teenager i was interested in cars/women/guns/sail-boats ect ) and discovered lasers and CNC wood and metal working machinery that you're mentioned and got me interested in eventually owning a robot like the ones in the video for hobby milling/3D-printout's and now i can see my 3d-shift/2AM-CT-🇺🇸 ideas at a meat-package house/maintenance-millwright ( and 2d/part-time job at a 3d party automotive repair shop ) wasn't dumb after all as i wasn't sure about having a universal room/robotics was going to fully work out as a hotrod shop aka paying hobbies 😉
water-cutting could also trim the parts instead of using lasers or milling as of the calculated amount/PSI is correct is will barely go through the parts in the fixture and not damaging the other robotics/tooling or injures to workmen-ect, probably faster as well 👍and being vertical it would save on space and cleaning up as there's a drain underneath ect
This is raw learning. If it is difficult, let it be difficult. It's a dense subject that combines robotics and science of materials. It MUST be complicated and technical. Smarter Every day 2 IS for those who can work around a video that shows all the harsh parts of the subject. This is more of a specialist channel.
this is why youtube exists. Every new point casually brought up blew my mind, some serious work been done by these guys
Man, the software for these robots sound so incredibly complex, what they can do now is already an insane achievement, but they're just getting started! This video blew my mind multiple times!
Also, the statement at the end is so incredible. The fact they can manufacture more quickly than computers can simulate (which would still have to be tested in the real world) is so insane. Can't wait what the future of manufacturing holds. Between this, 3D (metal) printing, and computer optimized/ designed from scratch parts, the future will be insane
My mind is completely blown. Nearly 2 hour video? Yes please! Can we go for 4? Destin, thank you so much. Thanks for including Ed's educational path and advice at the end as well. I can't wait to show this to my kids.
Literally this. This was the exact thing my son and I needed to hear to assist in guiding his personal path - an unexpected emotional and poignant moment.
By far the most generous, fascinating discussion and shares. 🤩 Thank you for this!! Highlight "education and not the paper." Someone said "Guaranteed excitement."☺
This has blown my mind. I think I understood half of what they said in this video haha. I loved every minute of both of your videos on this and thank everyone involved. We need more people like these in this world. Genius'
This was phenomenal! I salute and admire the openness with which Ed, Babak and co. are sharing their knowhow and ambitions !
Man...this video was a big surprise. I thought the manufacturing series will be a repeat of the stuff from college, but nobody in colledge mentioned roboforming as a possibility. This was amazing. Thanks!
Some of your best work Destin, Thanks for showing manufacturing strengths in the USA.
I bet SpaceX is a frequent client of theirs. What an amazing niche. Fantastic!😊
Thanks to all involved, I am at a loss for words as to how much I enjoyed this.
I work on machine learning, and I typically use "heauristic algorithm" (or heuristic model) to describe an algorithm which was sort of arrived at manually, perhaps by taking a scientific model and applying that, and then maybe by manually tweaking it until it is working the way you want more or less. I would use it in contrast to a machine learning algorithm where you have mathematically optimized on some criteria
Without knowing much about machine learning personally. Would it be accurate to say that this specific process would not be possible without machine learning? I imagine that it’s a critical piece of this system, right?
@shmoob7 idk enough about this particular system to really say.. its sounds like they were implying that to be the case. I work on computer vision so this isn't really my field.. but I know with physics you are often using a model of the universe which simplifies things, for instance, if you are trying to describe the behavior of an electrical circuit you would probably approximate things with ohms law rather than use Maxwell's equations. This generally works quite well.. but there are cases where it doesn't fully describe the way the circuit would behave in the real world. A machine learning model doesn't necessarily understand the reason why something works, but it can give you very optimal solutions for the data you train it on. So if you were training a model to design circuits, for instance, it wouldn't necessarily understand the underlying physics, but given enough data it could draw a correlation and learn something like "if these 2 components are too close together it's not good".
In the same way, let's say the robots in the video tend to flex more in one direction than another under stress, the models won't understand this, but they can correlate the fact that applying a force in a certain way leads to better results than applying it in another. So instead of trying to calculate everything out, putting a tremendous amount of work in for a very specific task, you can just throw data at it. Your model is still a simplified representation of what is actually happening, but it's highly optimized for the task at hand.
How many sheets could a sheet shaper shape if a sheet shaper could shape sheets?
Excellent episode! It is fun seeing engineering in action.
Optimizing the arm positioning for stiffness in a desired direction???? Are you kidding me, that's AWESOME
This so what I love to watch. Get down to the geek level. Thank you. Keep sending the long versions.
Kudos to Mehr and the other boss man for allowing Dustin to interact with the worker. Learned alot @ 36:31 reminds me of a quick disconnect with the tool swapping the bits and the bearings locking Into place. Pretty cool about the magnetism
I'm reminded of an article I read in the last year or so explaining how analogue computers built for very specific functions can be many orders of magnitude faster and more accurate at the calculation they do than general digital computers - PCs, ASICs, HPC, etc. - can be. It was Ed near the end explaining that they can reach an optimal design empirically faster than digital simulation can that did it. I realized that their entire process could be thought of an "analog simulator" converging very rapidly on a solution. Bloody fascinating. Destin, this sort of content (and your charm and intelligence, of course ;-) is why you and your channel are one of the only two I support through Patreon.
I promised myself I wasn't going to cry. This was even more fascinating than the shorter main channel video. I'll end my comments because I never thought of a way to clean up a joke involving swashbuckling. That is all.
As a guy that does this type of complex sheet metal work, this stuff is fascinating. I wish they had a facility closer to where I live, because I would LOVE to work on this stuff with them.
I don't understand the technical stuff but I love the passion and artistry and innovation. The face! The fun names for the robots! Thank you for finding, sharing and being generous, brilliant, playful, serious men.
"Mehr" means "more" in German. Really fitting for this man who always wants to find out more. Amazing guys :)
Love that they feel comfortable sharing so much, early movers with confidence in their team, tech, velocity
Another channel I follow, Retropower, does a lot of hand-forming of metal for custom car fabrication using English wheel and other tools, and they talk about how it's often a 2 steps forward, 1 step backward process as you stretch and then relax the metal. Interesting to see how the same challenges still apply here, just being solved in a slightly different way 😁. Great stuff!
My mind is just absolutely blown. This is what a true conversation between smart people is truly like. I have learned and have become smarter.
That really is insane that forming the part is faster than simulating the part. Mind blown!!!
This was a superb exploration of the possibilities in the future, "My brain is on fire!" was exactly the way I felt. An entire airframe engineered of parts that get rid of factors that require over engineering in some areas just to allow the whole to function. I also watched the 1st video and came over and watched all the 2nd channel video. It's just that I'm now scared... I bought one of your baseballs, bought a cube and block to display it... are you gonna have them make some small airfoils out of titanium and how much will they cost? !!! 🚀LOL Great episode Professor!
Woah woah wait; magnetic properties in the metal based on how you work it?Does this mean you could "draw" circuits into the structural metal? 🤯
I see what you mean! I was like 🤯 at first but then remembered that copper, aluminium and gold (good conductors) aren't even magnetic! So I dont know if that would work to make circuits.
Oh yes you're right - stupid me.
But there must be some cool things you could do with that. I just don't have enough electrical engineering engineering understanding to wrap my mind around what that could be at the moment.
But yeah conductors are non magnetic.
But electricity and magnetism are closely related....
Arrrgh sorry my brain is short circuiting here.😂
Imagine creating a metal PCB. You cut out the copper circuit and then dip it into a non conductive coating, clad it between two pieces of steel, then use this machine to form it into a part.
I’m imagining if you used this on something like a car you could use the circuits to send power and data between cameras/sensors. Instead of having just a handful of cameras imagine having hundred of them using forming techniques like golfball dimpling to increase the strength of the metal as well as create a space for the cameras to sit in. You could use much lower quality and easier to produce sensors/cameras, but because you have thousands of them making up the outer skin, you could combine that data into a higher resolution image like a compound eye. Since they can make the metal magnetic to mount the cameras all they would have to do is make the dimple magnetic and drill a few small holes to expose the circuit for the camera to connect to.
Fascinating! I retired as a manufacturing engineer in 2002. I love this process! It's something that we wouldn't have thought could have found an economy of scale in which it made sense. Very cool!
As the material can essentially be thinned in a controllable fashion it would be cool for one of the "test prints" ,like the benchy equivalent discussed, to be a tuned steel pan drum. Very nice process that I'm sure there will be plenty more exploration in. Can see a shift away from industrial robots to a more custom, cheaper set up that distributes the loads in a more efficient way.
destin has good editing - we had 80% of this from the main video but in 1/3rd the time, I should trust the main channel
I dont think I can sleep tonight, the time and passion put into this pioneering stuff is making my brains to boil !
This is all so cool. Robotic craftsmen in the works, super impressive and interesting.
This was incredible. Knowledge transfer at its finest.
Insane, forming these parts, is faster than computational modeling them. Keep up the great work.
Wow so much content. I found it hard to follow not being an engineer but I appreciated their excitement. I remember feeling that way at the start of my career.
Just a recommendation, but I would put the 2nd channel bit at the beginning of your videos. I love these full "un-edited" where you dive deep into the conversation more and don't want to rewatch what I already did xD Always love your videos and glad I finally came across your second channel!
commenting on the needle and not thrustbearing in the end effector: If i understand the forming process correctly the round, coated, tool at the end is not in pure axial thrust. Its in a load acting in combination of axial and bending on the axis as c beam, but all the way around. Thus the tool mount must take the moment, meaning radial force on the bearing, therefore radially strong needle bearings are used.
I’m an ME and a technologist / Innovation Specialist with a focus in Robotics, AI and additive manufacturing and my mind exploded several times with the possibilities I saw in this video. Oh man!
This stuff, talking about the wider applications and possibilities... oh boy... some extremely exciting stuff!
Im a microbiologist, I LOVE engineering, I know nothing about mechanical engineering and very little about metallic alloys and computer science/robotics.
I just watched the full video and Im fascinated!
Thanks for exposing how magnificent the world is!
Wow. Just wow.
I’m so impressed and in awe for how open and excited these guys are about the process. Thank you @smartereveryday2 for sharing these deep dives into awesomeness.
This is so COOL! I finally have a channel that I can totally geek out on, with the in-depth info that is missing on many "techy" channels. Thank you for this.
These guys are all really really smart.
The precision and all the things that are catered for to get the most accurate part is astounding.
This was so incredibly interesting, I'm so happy these guys reached out to you. They are some every smart people.
randomly got tthe smarter every day cahnnel suggested on my home page. i know nothing about this kind of stuff, but i love love seeing and staying up to date on the latest tech in any industry, most i dont and will never understand, but i can get the gist of it, especially the way these guys explained it and the great questions you asked. love that guys like you make videos like this!
This is one of the best episodes I've seen on this channel , I have hand formed aluminum body panels so it really made sense
Its hard to express just how cool this video is. Thank you.
Time-lapse of their creations would be GREAT!
Thanks Destin, now I'll feel dumb for the rest of the day. Those dudes are crazy smart. Awesome stuff!
Awesome walk-through of this awesome manufacturing idea! What great, smart, fun guys! :D
I went to check it on my kitchen sink, and it's indeed varies in magnetism based on the surface!!!
Absolutely awesome video, my mind felt privileged to be exposed to such high level engineering brains and talent! Loved every minute of it!!!
What an exciting video! When it comes to stuff like this I'm dumb as a brick but just watching and listening to the explanations and seeing the process in action makes for a truly wonderful experience! I may not be smarter but I'm more informed and richer for having seen this. Thank you!
Simply amazing how humble and smart these people are... someone said, if you can't, simply explain it you haven't thought about it enough. Something like that. One of your best, interesting videos. Thanks....
A metal press can have moving parts in the die which would allow for overhangs. I guess roboforming has more control over resulting workpiece properties but it’s also slower, similar to 3d printing vs casting / injection molding
I'm an automation engineer student, thinking doing things like this will be my future really makes me excited, thanks Dustin for making this video
Love the second channel. I still don't regret watching 2 hours of setting up the irrigation walker
Awesome video Destin and the guys from Machina Labs are awesome too! The whole process is so mindbogglingly complex but super fascinating at the same time. Thanks for making this video.
Yep, This is the real Smarter every day experience. I love this channel destin, keep it up. TY
dustin has to be super smart, i couldn't control all those actions at the same time and have an in depth conversation about complex problems.
53:04 Ah yes, the classic tongue twister, "He shapes sheet shapes at the sheet shape shop."
All I can say is: engineering is beautiful 😍 there's never a dull video here, thanks Dustin 🙇♂
I saw this process being done in Scotland 10 years ago approx in a research facility together with a group of engineers and metallurgists, they asked a lot of questions ( but got minimal information back at that time , this is great to see and get the detailed responses )
What an amazing process. I'm blow away at how many factors are accounted for in the forming process to get a correct part.
My mind has officially been blown, twice. Thanks for this series.
I expect none of my companies will ever have a need for this, but these guys are amazing! If I had business to send them, I would! The level of detail they allowed you to see was risky for them, but I will forever remember their name and if anyone I speak to needs this, they will 100% definitely be the contact I pull from my rolodex. (I don't have a rolodex) 😂 whatever happened to them?
This is so beautiful 🤯🤯😍😍 loving these unfiltered videos!
The deforming stainless to make it magnetic is something I use to tell the difference between 304 and 316 bar stock for scrap bin machining. It is much harder to deform 316 enough to make it magnetic, whereas 304 is pretty easy. So the test is take a corner, whack it with a hammer then check with a magnet.
I’m a second year Mechanical Engineering student at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and seeing this stuff is incredible. Can’t wait to see where I can take my degree!
1:14:00 - It's like working pizza dough in strategic spots to achieve uniform thickness, but in 3D with robots and metal. Awesome video!!!