@2:35 Ange Ball: "Having these large distances between players is incredibly risky because if you lose it, nobody is going to recover." Correction: There is one person who will be able to recover, and that's Van de Ven. The man can teleport around the field, from making huge defensive plays to assisting goals. When he's playing, Tottenham can play Ange ball to their hearts content. He's possibly the best signing they've made in years.
They can't even get to the point of rotations right now because they can't keep the ball. Diogo Dalot has been out of position for most goals because he's out of position from giveaways..
Also for this game according to Pedro Porro's SofaScore heatmap he went up a bit, but he was mostly between the center half (mostly behind it in our final third) . Compared to his heatmap in Newcastle where he and Udogie was mostly in the Newcastle final third. So, it seems Porro basically went a bit behind then his usual position. He can create a back three for defending.
Agreed and when in form, Sarr covers an absolute marathon every 45 minutes as well covering the midfield gaps. So when he is on the park the gaps are averaged across the park.
I thought Utd actually done a cracking job of shutting out Bissouma, looking at the data, he did not register a single touch, pass, or indeed any minutes during this game.
@@tommyknockers5492Don't waste your time on such comments. 80% of these fans are reactionary. After the FA Cup win, they were mocking Arsenal for going trophyless and also mocking Klopp because his last season was identical to ETH's 1st season. Let them bark now. We have to face the banter, because we are SHIT. We had 20 yrs of success, Liverpool had success in the 80s, and City in the last decade, but Tottenham never had this period. So, let's take in the banter, let them rejoice.
Bro, talk sense. Banter us for the Tottenham game, don't banter a game which we deservedly won. Pep's ego is too big to lose to a "Dutch league level" manager. What's the other banter, City players were drunk? 😂, so is that an insult to United players or City players I wonder. 😂 Stop copy pasting comments.
@@paulomarroti634 he wasn't tweeting during the game. It's a simple mistake, and fairly forgiveable considering that Biss was our regular 6 last season and started on Thursday in Europa.
@@paulomarroti634 Doesn't make sense as if he only looked at the charts the name Bissouma wouldn't have come up anywhere as he didn't play. Far more likely is that he's seen a Spurs games and that player is often Bissouma, so he said him due to force of habit
Any good high pressing team ( Newcastle , city , Chelsea, arsenal and more) would definitely punish them for the spaces they leave behind. United are just trash
Spurs fan here. Most notable thing from my perspective was the accuracy of Spurs passing; Brennan Johnson running his socks off wide right; Kulusevsky doing what he does.... From a United perspective....did look a bit all over the place. No solid marking; few tackles;....lethargic ? Lack of passion or desire to try and get the ball ?
I think the players don’t understand or believe in what they’re being told. It’s hard to play at 100% when things aren’t clear. We need someone up top that sets the tone for the whole team. I miss cavani and ighalo.
I would say there were a lot of tackles, really bad ones. agree with the players not being 100% on board with game plans because they all had mispasses and had different ideas of positioning and build up. Especially the miscommunication between the middle and the wingers really hurt the ball progression.
Mate. Mickey is a phenomenon. He didn't JUST waltz through. He is the fastest player in the league. Not the fastest defender. The fastest player. He doesn't get the kudos he deserves.
A bot copied your comment and now it's the top comment. What a shame. Well you do have a point. Micky is unbelievable. The pace, the intent with which he plays, if there was any way to quantify "mentality", you'd put can Micky's mentality in one box and put the whole Man utd's mentality in the other, Van de Ven would still come out on top. He's amazing.
As a Spurs fan, this was a treat to watch. As a football fan, this was informative and clear. Thank you. I think Utd have a desperate need for identity, De Ligt looks poor on the ball and slow. Too much bad body language all over the pitch from their starting XI. I hope Spurs can kick on now with some very very winnable games leading right the way up to Christmas. Could be in a great position up the league table by the new year , and being in multiple cup competitions, could have a trophy well in our sights. Cheers Adam, COYS
Man United fans should crowd fund for this channel to be on the advertising banner in Old Trafford. That probably is the most cost effective and efficient way to improve the team.
In fairness, although they were horrifically bad, I think we can give United a pass for not "shutting off Bissouma". Given, well, you know, that he never actually got on the pitch.
This match made my non-existent depression to surface😭 the first Half just looked like Spurs were toying with United they just attacked whenever they felt like it. And united could barely make 4 passes in succession in that half...
If anyone didn’t watch live They don’t know why United getting bash 3-0 is very decent for United actually Spurs played like they are playing against SERIE B team
please do a video on tony pulis' stoke? nobody seems to talk about them tactically, but they managed to stay up with a fraction of the budget of other clubs. would be a very interesting watch!
Always a brilliant bit of research and analysis. Bravo. As a United fan, I wish Goldbridge, Howson and the rest of the Ten Hag In brigade could offer anywhere near as much intellect. Regardless of whether you support a team or not, you must be able to face reality. The reality is, EtH is entirely responsible for that mess. To send any Manchester United team out like that and to be so incapable of reacting to it is indeed a stackable offence. It doesn't matter who the next man might be, the current one is a joke.
It does matter, because Utd have been sacking managers for years and it hasn't improved anything either. Was the half-season with Ragnick as caretaker better than this?
@@richardhp77difference is with this manager, he’s spent over £600 million on HIS players. The other manages as we know, didn’t get their choices, or get the power he has had. With £600 million spent, how we can’t see his style of football with HIS players, is beyond a joke, that’s why he needs to go. Bad signings, bad tactics, no style of play, atrocious losses. That’s all on him and him alone.
@@richardhp77 You don't stick on a terrible manager just because the other ones were also bad. You have to keep going to find the right one. ETH definitely isn't the right one.
I believe Ten Hag keeps a firm grip on the players, but gives them such confusing instructions that no one knows what they're supposed to do. I can't see him lasting another month after this.
Awesome breakdown of the match. One of the few outlets to explain that This Is Manchester United were beaten by something other than some unexplainable cosmic force, but a thoroughly well coached team.
When United started talking to other managers, Ten Hag's authority in the dressing room went down to zero. How do you motivate a team, when the team knows you are going to be replaced? They did the same with Moyes and OGS. Back him or sack him.
Three years no clear style of play , new CEO, New technical director, new sporting director , new training facility , new recruits , yet no indentity , spent over 750 on transfer and can't create a system. And we stay here saying he is building for the future , when we can't see the foundation. Even Southampton have a system. Yet we don't , imagine ineos backing Dr zerbi. Who has a clear philosophy , even after losing Mac Alister and coicedo , still have a system. We should wake to reality . we beating a dead horse with ten hag.
Spurs supporter here, I would say, this game we did everything we have been meaning to do but was not clinical enough to do at Leicester away, Newcastle, and Arsenal at home. We were unlucky, to not have scored more, it should have been 7-0. So for me, I am happy, but at the same time. Beating a United like this is really nothing to boast about. We need to be even more ruthless since our goal is to win the Europa this season. We definitely can, we simply need to keep our rotation going, and alleviate as much of the stress from all the games for most of our starters. I pray for our players to stay healthy till the end of the season. I'm looking at, at least top 5 in the league if not 4. I would not mind another Europa league season, if that's what it takes for us to get our acts together. I really think the real turning point was Coventry away. I thank that game, since that was the start to this whole blissful few weeks. We are eating at the moment, and I'm excited to feast even more. Dominic Solanke really became a shadow lurking in the dark as of recent. I'm so glad
United fan for 47 years. There are ZERO inaccuracies in Adam's analysis here. Without spelling it out in the most basic of ways, this clearly demonstrates that BOTH the manager and the club captain do NOT have the tactical nous, nor the leadership skills required to steer this squad effectively. The manager should be replaced immediately and the captain should be sacked too. I WAS on board with EtH's strategy when he initially wanted to build a pressing identity at United but it clearly isn't working. You have to be able to make your main strategy work and, if not, have effective plans B & C. We're failing on all counts. Enough is enough.
@@harukrentz435 de Ligt. It could've been McTominay if he was good enough to be a regular starter & wasn't sold. Not too many other good options in the squad.
If there's any manager who's under pressure of the sack, all they need is a game against Manchester United, be it home or away to lift your spirits.. Based on how bad they've been
The only thing that worries me as a spurs fan is the injuries... if there's any more injuries then we can easily become vulnerable. We do have young players but they lack experience in the top flight. So yeah... if we go without injuries then we might have a good chance to be at least top 4
Yeah agree, I think the squad is quite light in quality already. I think the attack is probably one of the weakest in terms of depth and quality of any team chasing European places (including Brighton and West Ham in that too). Solanke and Son are good (although Son is getting older and doesn't always suit the system that well when he plays on the left), Johnson has looked good recently but can be frustrating (if we want to challenge for trophies I think he'll ultimately be a good rotation option or impact sub, but Spurs need at least 2 first-team ready wide forwards/wingers if they want to push on) Mickey Moore might end up being amazing but he's only just turned 17. The central midfield depth looks okay on paper but I'm not sure all the combinations would work, the defence is a worry as centrally the only back-ups are Dragusin/Davis and at left-back it's Davis/Spence. Spence has looked ok and I'm glad he's turned it around considering he looked doomed, but if VdV or Udioge get injured for any length of time the drop-off in quality really affects the entire playstyle epecially with VdV's speed. Also for some reason they picked 4 goalkeepers instead of having Spence in Europe so there are even fewer options to rotate in that competition to keep players fresh.
@@mauddib1761 whatever concerns that I had... You had pointed it out brilliantly. The only thing that can break this team is the injuries. We need more solid backups.. but that will cover it out once our new signings and youngsters get the experience. Gray and bergvall played well and others need gametime and confidence to make it a solid team. The main concern for this team will be what will happen if VdV gets injured. I mean that he's so fast in recovering the ball that I fear that hamstrings will get damaged.... And the leg injuries are the thing that every footballer fears. IMO, I think Romero can be covered but VdV can't be replaced ( the amount of saves that he has done due to his speed is unmatched ).
@@mauddib1761 The third and fourth goalkeepers are club-trained. If you drop them out of the squad, you don't get to replace them except with other club-trained players, ie: not Spence.
@@jk177717 yeah they should have dropped Forster from the European squad then they could have included Spence. The drop-off from Forster to Austin didn't look that big in pre-season although i appreciate Forster has much more experience
How could slot and maresca instill their idea to players in a matter of months while its already ten hag's third season and still couldnt show a top team performance.
Not to mention Ange, of course. ten Hag just got taken to the cleaners by a manager who has completely overhauled Spurs in 15 months. It's ridiculous to suggest ten Hag needs more time.
I don't understand anymore. It is so messy right now that you are not sure whether the coach failed to give clear or right instructions or the players couldn't understand the instructions or they failed to execute the instructions or they have no understanding with each other so the instructions are failed to be executed. United looks like they don't have clear identity but this only happens since Rangnick took over where they started to build a team that plays like an elite team (high pressing). Rangnick is a man that obviously have clear philosophy of what he wants his teams to play yet failed to do so in United. You could say that it was the players' fault at that time. However, the same things happens now with ETH where he got his sets of players. I don't understand anymore.
Spot on , Adam, as a Man U fan, not at all surprised. Finally, as if we haven’t seen it before, everyone can clearly see how much ten Hag is totally out of his depth and will be gone well before the end of the season. The problem for Ineos is who to replace him with. Strikes me Liverpool got the better Dutchman, who exudes confidence and competence, in contrast to our Erik, who is awkward, defensive and completely lacking in charisma.
9:45 This is the exact problem with Man Utd. Arne Slot said it in one of his first interviews - "forget about tactics if you can't win your duels". Man Utd's attitude was shocking in this game. You can sack ETH and bring any top manager but unless you fix this attitude, you are not going to get anywhere.
ETH had major fault, he setup them poorly, but these players just have no desire. Never seen Havertz, Saka, Martinelli stop chasing the ball. Salah at 32 does more than Rashford. Neither Rashford nor Garnacho tracked back after losing the ball to Van de Ven. Dalot just stopped tracking Johnson for the goal, and it was just the 3rd min. You could bang your head as a coach, but desire can't be taught. Still, it's mostly on ETH. People thinking Tuchel or Nagelsmann will work magic, they need to be cautious because Man United players and gegenpressing are antonyms. Under Ragnick, we pressed for 30 mins against Palace and never did it again.
@@Aarya-v5n Been saying it and saying it. They should get Keane on staff to privately and publicly humiliate these pre-Madonna's. Their is no fear of these embarrassing performances from the players because the standard is now so low, we are celebrating slightly above average efforts in draws with Palace. Their egos need to be broken and those that haven't got the heart or bottle to play at the most scrutinized football team in the world shown the exit.
@@EddyGonzalez1509 Ofc, Manager has a role. Even the mental aspects are partially on ETH but if a team needs this external motivation, then the players need to be questioned. Wearing a Man United jersey and playing at OT doesn't need any more motivation. Ironically, in ETH's 1st season only, I have never seen us with so much energy and spirit, we didn't lose a game at OT after Brighton and Sociedad, all those comeback wins against Barca, City, in the FA Cup rounds. Everything just vanished. It's seriously incredible we have reached here after the end of 1st season's optimism.
@@Guttsdoyle We should do something of that sort fr!! Because an avg team with a strong mentality will always beat a lethargic and unmotivated so called better team, the best example being 1-1 draw with Twente. Eriksen said, They simply wanted it more. I mean ETH is at fault but no manager should be required to provide motivation in every game, and if he has to then it's the failure of the players. And if you notice, whenever we get in a new manager, we improve the results, the mood changes and then in the 2nd season, things start to dampen. Why's that, it isn't necessarily because the manager has abruptly went clueless and lost his tactical acumen, it's because all that mental motivation with the arrival of the new manager has died out by the 2nd season. Let's bring in Nagelsmann or Tuchel, I still doubt whether we will be title challengers within 2 seasons, because of this very reason and our reactionary fanbase won't be patient with the new manager.
Good video, Liam. You should certainly do the less common ducks. We get quite a variety on my local patch, and it’s always good when the visitors arrive.
Love this bro. As much as I blame the players for being absolutely clueless in sensing danger and stopping it ,no matter what position you’re in. I also blame the manager for not addressing our weaknesses. I feel there’s a big coaching gap with Ten Hag. He’s not able to impose any strict restrictions on the pitch. Like stopping players from entering our box or just situational awareness in and out of possession
How does ten Hag not know that? It’s the most glaring thing in the press, if you were to high press, keep it compact and cut off passing lanes and options. Even the Sunday league guys know this.. staggering 😢😢😢
i also saw a problem where mainoo would pick up the ball when attacking, he would then make a pass and then immediatley run into the box simultaneolsy we would lose the ball and tottenham would have so much space
Midfielders do that all the time at Man City, Liverpool, etc. The problem is when united do it the other players don’t fill up the space forward the left open. Basically their lines are all over the place when attacking that’s why it’s the only ‘big’ team that when losing the ball are far off their markers and it’s too risky to apply pressure. Have you seen Man City when losing the ball when attacking? They are so close to their markers quickly close them down. Basically ten sack has no philosophy or style of play and players are confused.
This is one thing i havent seen from a man utd manager in a while, is the ability to recognize whats happening in the game, and making changes to tactics to fix it
I am a man utd fan and this video, infact this channel should be the tactical team coach for us. Let them manage the team for one season and they will perform way better
that screengrab of the red card captures the moment After Brunos studs had raked across Maddison's leg. At this point the foul is already done. Watch the whole foul and you'll see Bruno slip, then lunge out studs first and catch Maddison under the knee - to me thats a very obvious red
I'm not sure that it's an obvious red, but the fact that he kept stretching with his leg after slipping tips it easily into soft red territory. Deliberate and reckless, even if the outcome was mild.
I have to agree and I'm baffled how many people seem to think it's not a red purely on the basis that he didn't mean to do it. Intent isn't necessarily the deciding factor in these situations, red cards can still be given if the incident was dangerous, like in this case. Bruno may not have meant to catch Maddison that high up on the leg but he still intended on the challenge itself, and the fact that he slips and loses all control of the challenge makes the whole thing worse, not better. Far too many people seem to think that catching someone halfway up the leg is fine as long as they didn't mean to do it 😆
There is no point in over analysing united's losses. They lose because they dont press to win the ball or to force the opponent into a mistake, passive press, they dont win duels, they incessantly make mistakes. I saw players hesistate to go for a ball. The only player who presses with an aim to pressure the opponent is mount the rest are putting up running numbers. Team looks like a bunch of 40 year olds playing a testimonial match. Game pace is tooooo slow and we have way too many players that are naturally inclined to lose the ball.
Ten Hag is done. I've wanted him sacked for almost a year. It's been obvious for a quite a long time that he needed to go. I couldn't understand why the fanbase started going crazy after the final. We have played pretty poorly since the Carabao Cup win in 22/23.
9:52: I don’t know a lot about soccer which is why I like watching videos like this. I do know a lot about basketball though, and in basketball transition defense, the #1 priority is to stop the ball
I think about United's previous match against Crystal Palace where they created lots of chances, didn't take any, and Palace fixed their vulnerability at half time. In this case, Spurs score with their first attack of each half and Fernandes gets sent off. You sort of saw that adjustment from United in the period they were on top, but the damage had already been done and once again, they couldn't convert any of their chances. While goals (and sendings off) clearly do change games, it can't be coincidence that United keep coming out second best in these crucial moments. There were a few moments (including right before Van de Ven's run and assist) where the ball could have broken either way and Spurs always seemed to win it. That strikes me as a mental thing-no team is so unlucky as to consistently fail to “get the bounce”.
MUFC need to do the basics, then build on that. They are busy with tactics when they don't even have any team rhythm. 1. Don't give up the center space. All 11 are responsible for it. 2. When in posession there should always be 2 passing options. If you see those options are covered it is your job to become another passing option. 3. If u ever get to the opposing box SHOOT. As long as you pit it on frame eventually good things will happen. Done. Gimme EtH's job.
Garnacho was the only United player that worried me as a Spurs fan. The rest of them were rubbish besides maybe Onana who actually made two great saves with the asterisk of them being from Timo Werner.
how is it ten hags fault when the players couldn't string 2 - 3 passes in a row without losing possession the players were absolutely shit today the real question needs to be what is in the food?! Almost unbelievable how bad they were individually comparing to Tottenham players all were better and played and pressed wonderfully as a team
That chaos you're talking about is exactly how Ten Hag likes to play, he wants chaos in the transition. He basically wants all of the play to be transition phases. All of this is by design.
Some great points and observations. However, for me that much detail is not required to highlight the biggest issue in that first half. In simple terms the biggest downfall was the sheer amount of times utd players had poor touch, poor passes, and loss of possession when they weren't under serious pressure from spurs. This left them chasing back and chasing their tails. Watch the first half back and you'll see how often that happened, from supposedly top class professionals. Simple loss of possession.
As a spurs fan watching the game it felt like it could have ended 0-0 except for those few glimmers. I still feel we're at the beginning of the Ange project but Solanke is a massve part of that and as he gets better it will make us better
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After every big game; this is the only analysis i look forward to
Thanks guys
FMS. Is good aswell !
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@@totsh2056 Football Made Simple. You should check out Football Meta too, covers outside leagues other than the PL and presents it excellently.
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@@benjaminokpotu4846 cool. Thanks.
@2:35 Ange Ball: "Having these large distances between players is incredibly risky because if you lose it, nobody is going to recover." Correction: There is one person who will be able to recover, and that's Van de Ven. The man can teleport around the field, from making huge defensive plays to assisting goals. When he's playing, Tottenham can play Ange ball to their hearts content. He's possibly the best signing they've made in years.
True. Even as a rival fan, can't help but admire the man, what a unit of a centre back
They can't even get to the point of rotations right now because they can't keep the ball. Diogo Dalot has been out of position for most goals because he's out of position from giveaways..
Also for this game according to Pedro Porro's SofaScore heatmap he went up a bit, but he was mostly between the center half (mostly behind it in our final third) . Compared to his heatmap in Newcastle where he and Udogie was mostly in the Newcastle final third. So, it seems Porro basically went a bit behind then his usual position. He can create a back three for defending.
Agreed and when in form, Sarr covers an absolute marathon every 45 minutes as well covering the midfield gaps. So when he is on the park the gaps are averaged across the park.
@@aphextwin1991 No excuse to give up on chasing your man back. Amateur stuff, mate.
I think that if Son wasnt injured and played instead of Werner, Ten Hag would have been sacked the next day.
Yep cuz probably the score would have been at least 5
I thought Utd actually done a cracking job of shutting out Bissouma, looking at the data, he did not register a single touch, pass, or indeed any minutes during this game.
He probably still had a better game than the United midfielders
I'm sure Bentancur won't mind the confusion, as after his comments at the Copa America, he surely knows that all centre mids look the same...
😂
So bad Ange subbed him off before the game even started 😂
Well. Stopping one man ain't enough. Gotta stop the whole team.
Ange before the game: Lads, it's Man United
I get it’s fun to bash UTD but Spuds have never won anything. Stay humble.
@@tommyknockers5492Unreal deflection, save your tears for the games to come😂
@@tommyknockers5492you just got battered by a team that can't win trophies then mate 😂
@@tommyknockers5492Don't waste your time on such comments. 80% of these fans are reactionary. After the FA Cup win, they were mocking Arsenal for going trophyless and also mocking Klopp because his last season was identical to ETH's 1st season. Let them bark now. We have to face the banter, because we are SHIT. We had 20 yrs of success, Liverpool had success in the 80s, and City in the last decade, but Tottenham never had this period. So, let's take in the banter, let them rejoice.
@@tommyknockers5492stop crying bout a bit of banter
Pep throwing that FA cup final was a masterstroke. The very definition of 4D chess.
Bro, talk sense. Banter us for the Tottenham game, don't banter a game which we deservedly won.
Pep's ego is too big to lose to a "Dutch league level" manager. What's the other banter, City players were drunk? 😂, so is that an insult to United players or City players I wonder. 😂
Stop copy pasting comments.
City players were drunk so was Pep
@@Aarya-v5n He's joking
@@Aarya-v5n He did copy paste the comment but at the same time it's clearly banter which you are biting on hook line and sinker for some weird reason
🤣🤣I said that right after the cup final Genius
Sorry to nitpick but Bentancur not Bissouma 4:32
Simply tells you this geezer watches from data charts instead of the game he comments on
I noticed this error…. Important to get the personal correct when reviewing tactics…. Perhaps it’s a simple error
@@paulomarroti634 he wasn't tweeting during the game. It's a simple mistake, and fairly forgiveable considering that Biss was our regular 6 last season and started on Thursday in Europa.
@@paulomarroti634 Doesn't make sense as if he only looked at the charts the name Bissouma wouldn't have come up anywhere as he didn't play. Far more likely is that he's seen a Spurs games and that player is often Bissouma, so he said him due to force of habit
@@paulomarroti634 We've got 2 midfielders that play in similar positions whose names start with B. Easy slip of the tongue to make
But I was reliably informed by Carragher that Tottenham are really easy to play against 🤔
Maybe they were talking about decent teams when they said that?
Any good high pressing team ( Newcastle , city , Chelsea, arsenal and more) would definitely punish them for the spaces they leave behind. United are just trash
And I was informed by him that chelsea is not a young and exciting team
except united are easier
He had good teams in mind not yanited and 7 Hag
As a mammal, I have no idea what the halftime instructions from Ten Hag could have been. Maybe a mollusk would know.
As a mollusk, I also have no idea what the halftime instructions from Ten Hag could have been. Maybe an avian would know.
@@Mollusk-123 xD
Spurs fan here. Most notable thing from my perspective was the accuracy of Spurs passing; Brennan Johnson running his socks off wide right; Kulusevsky doing what he does....
From a United perspective....did look a bit all over the place.
No solid marking; few tackles;....lethargic ? Lack of passion or desire to try and get the ball ?
I think the players don’t understand or believe in what they’re being told.
It’s hard to play at 100% when things aren’t clear. We need someone up top that sets the tone for the whole team. I miss cavani and ighalo.
I would say there were a lot of tackles, really bad ones. agree with the players not being 100% on board with game plans because they all had mispasses and had different ideas of positioning and build up. Especially the miscommunication between the middle and the wingers really hurt the ball progression.
Mate. Mickey is a phenomenon. He didn't JUST waltz through. He is the fastest player in the league. Not the fastest defender. The fastest player. He doesn't get the kudos he deserves.
A bot copied your comment and now it's the top comment. What a shame.
Well you do have a point. Micky is unbelievable. The pace, the intent with which he plays, if there was any way to quantify "mentality", you'd put can Micky's mentality in one box and put the whole Man utd's mentality in the other, Van de Ven would still come out on top. He's amazing.
6 foot 4, faster than Kyle Walker, tackles beautifully, and crosses better than Werner...
Spurs fans…. It is finally your time to shine on this channel 😂
Come on! Let us enjoy these precious moments 😊.
As a Spurs fan, this was a treat to watch. As a football fan, this was informative and clear. Thank you. I think Utd have a desperate need for identity, De Ligt looks poor on the ball and slow. Too much bad body language all over the pitch from their starting XI. I hope Spurs can kick on now with some very very winnable games leading right the way up to Christmas. Could be in a great position up the league table by the new year , and being in multiple cup competitions, could have a trophy well in our sights. Cheers Adam, COYS
Deligt is the only player looking positive
He is even pressing sometimes
Man United fans should crowd fund for this channel to be on the advertising banner in Old Trafford. That probably is the most cost effective and efficient way to improve the team.
In fairness, although they were horrifically bad, I think we can give United a pass for not "shutting off Bissouma". Given, well, you know, that he never actually got on the pitch.
I hope and pray that Erik Ten Hag watches this because clearly he's out of ideas.
I wonder if he knows where to find ANY information about football.
Might as well at this point 😭
He sould start to search on youtube: how to win against this team 😂
I'm still waiting for his first idea
Now that you've said this he'll definitely watch this video for you
This video doesn't talk about the brilliance of Micky van de Ven nearly enough.
Is he faster than Sung?
@@martini668he holds the record for the fastest player in the league
@@philiposkebe wow
@@martini668yes faster than Kyle walker too who was the previous fastest in the league
You are proving to be spot on about Solanke by the way!
This match made my non-existent depression to surface😭 the first Half just looked like Spurs were toying with United they just attacked whenever they felt like it. And united could barely make 4 passes in succession in that half...
Kuluchefski was cookin 👨🍳 😂
If anyone didn’t watch live
They don’t know why United getting bash
3-0 is very decent for United actually
Spurs played like they are playing against SERIE B team
Somehow even a SERIE B team will know how to play from the back better than united did. It was such a masochism to watch that game as a United fan
Playing against eredivisie… was anyone going to be surprised? If only Eleven hag knows how to scout for players from non Dutch
even 5-0 wouldn't have done spurs justice
please do a video on tony pulis' stoke? nobody seems to talk about them tactically, but they managed to stay up with a fraction of the budget of other clubs. would be a very interesting watch!
Nobody liked going to stoke when they had pulis it was always a hard game no matter what team you were
@Wooldrog thats cause they couldn't do it on a cold and rainy night in Stoke.
@@idk-dz3fo even messi fears a cold tuesday night in Stoke on Trent, why do u think he ran off to MLS
Always a brilliant bit of research and analysis. Bravo.
As a United fan, I wish Goldbridge, Howson and the rest of the Ten Hag In brigade could offer anywhere near as much intellect.
Regardless of whether you support a team or not, you must be able to face reality. The reality is, EtH is entirely responsible for that mess. To send any Manchester United team out like that and to be so incapable of reacting to it is indeed a stackable offence. It doesn't matter who the next man might be, the current one is a joke.
It does matter, because Utd have been sacking managers for years and it hasn't improved anything either. Was the half-season with Ragnick as caretaker better than this?
@@richardhp77 name me a top club that see this 💩 and keep the manager. Sack em until you find the right 1
@@richardhp77difference is with this manager, he’s spent over £600 million on HIS players. The other manages as we know, didn’t get their choices, or get the power he has had.
With £600 million spent, how we can’t see his style of football with HIS players, is beyond a joke, that’s why he needs to go.
Bad signings, bad tactics, no style of play, atrocious losses. That’s all on him and him alone.
@@richardhp77 You don't stick on a terrible manager just because the other ones were also bad. You have to keep going to find the right one. ETH definitely isn't the right one.
Absolute joke as Goldbridge would say.
I believe Ten Hag keeps a firm grip on the players, but gives them such confusing instructions that no one knows what they're supposed to do. I can't see him lasting another month after this.
Awesome breakdown of the match. One of the few outlets to explain that This Is Manchester United were beaten by something other than some unexplainable cosmic force, but a thoroughly well coached team.
When United started talking to other managers, Ten Hag's authority in the dressing room went down to zero. How do you motivate a team, when the team knows you are going to be replaced? They did the same with Moyes and OGS. Back him or sack him.
What a great analysis! Especially that bit about how chaotic MU were. Really good stuff.
Spurs pressing this season is on another level
Terrific explanation of the game - thankyou.
Three years no clear style of play , new CEO, New technical director, new sporting director , new training facility , new recruits , yet no indentity , spent over 750 on transfer and can't create a system. And we stay here saying he is building for the future , when we can't see the foundation. Even Southampton have a system. Yet we don't , imagine ineos backing Dr zerbi. Who has a clear philosophy , even after losing Mac Alister and coicedo , still have a system. We should wake to reality . we beating a dead horse with ten hag.
Spurs supporter here, I would say, this game we did everything we have been meaning to do but was not clinical enough to do at Leicester away, Newcastle, and Arsenal at home. We were unlucky, to not have scored more, it should have been 7-0. So for me, I am happy, but at the same time. Beating a United like this is really nothing to boast about. We need to be even more ruthless since our goal is to win the Europa this season. We definitely can, we simply need to keep our rotation going, and alleviate as much of the stress from all the games for most of our starters. I pray for our players to stay healthy till the end of the season. I'm looking at, at least top 5 in the league if not 4. I would not mind another Europa league season, if that's what it takes for us to get our acts together. I really think the real turning point was Coventry away. I thank that game, since that was the start to this whole blissful few weeks. We are eating at the moment, and I'm excited to feast even more. Dominic Solanke really became a shadow lurking in the dark as of recent. I'm so glad
Its not Tottenham managing to score 3
It's united managing to make it easier to concede 3
Please keep doing this, couldn’t wait to watch it after the game.
United fan for 47 years. There are ZERO inaccuracies in Adam's analysis here. Without spelling it out in the most basic of ways, this clearly demonstrates that BOTH the manager and the club captain do NOT have the tactical nous, nor the leadership skills required to steer this squad effectively. The manager should be replaced immediately and the captain should be sacked too. I WAS on board with EtH's strategy when he initially wanted to build a pressing identity at United but it clearly isn't working. You have to be able to make your main strategy work and, if not, have effective plans B & C. We're failing on all counts. Enough is enough.
And regarding the captain who are you going to play??
@@harukrentz435 de Ligt. It could've been McTominay if he was good enough to be a regular starter & wasn't sold. Not too many other good options in the squad.
It's not chaos, it's lack of coaching. Mate!
If there's any manager who's under pressure of the sack, all they need is a game against Manchester United, be it home or away to lift your spirits.. Based on how bad they've been
The only thing that worries me as a spurs fan is the injuries... if there's any more injuries then we can easily become vulnerable. We do have young players but they lack experience in the top flight. So yeah... if we go without injuries then we might have a good chance to be at least top 4
Yeah agree, I think the squad is quite light in quality already. I think the attack is probably one of the weakest in terms of depth and quality of any team chasing European places (including Brighton and West Ham in that too). Solanke and Son are good (although Son is getting older and doesn't always suit the system that well when he plays on the left), Johnson has looked good recently but can be frustrating (if we want to challenge for trophies I think he'll ultimately be a good rotation option or impact sub, but Spurs need at least 2 first-team ready wide forwards/wingers if they want to push on)
Mickey Moore might end up being amazing but he's only just turned 17. The central midfield depth looks okay on paper but I'm not sure all the combinations would work, the defence is a worry as centrally the only back-ups are Dragusin/Davis and at left-back it's Davis/Spence. Spence has looked ok and I'm glad he's turned it around considering he looked doomed, but if VdV or Udioge get injured for any length of time the drop-off in quality really affects the entire playstyle epecially with VdV's speed. Also for some reason they picked 4 goalkeepers instead of having Spence in Europe so there are even fewer options to rotate in that competition to keep players fresh.
@@mauddib1761 whatever concerns that I had... You had pointed it out brilliantly. The only thing that can break this team is the injuries. We need more solid backups.. but that will cover it out once our new signings and youngsters get the experience. Gray and bergvall played well and others need gametime and confidence to make it a solid team.
The main concern for this team will be what will happen if VdV gets injured. I mean that he's so fast in recovering the ball that I fear that hamstrings will get damaged.... And the leg injuries are the thing that every footballer fears. IMO, I think Romero can be covered but VdV can't be replaced ( the amount of saves that he has done due to his speed is unmatched ).
@@mauddib1761 The third and fourth goalkeepers are club-trained. If you drop them out of the squad, you don't get to replace them except with other club-trained players, ie: not Spence.
@@jk177717 yeah they should have dropped Forster from the European squad then they could have included Spence. The drop-off from Forster to Austin didn't look that big in pre-season although i appreciate Forster has much more experience
This is THE video I was hoping to see after every week. Adam C. be nailing this!👍👍
Excellent analysis, as always.
You make my appreciation of football better.
Keep up the great work! Best football analysis by far.
this channel is one of the best footie channels on the Tube
The instructions were insane, success of Man Utd rn depends on centre backs winning 50/50's on the half way line.
Great video analysis. The first to actually get under the bonnet of this match and explain how the fxxx. Thank you.
How could slot and maresca instill their idea to players in a matter of months while its already ten hag's third season and still couldnt show a top team performance.
Not to mention Ange, of course. ten Hag just got taken to the cleaners by a manager who has completely overhauled Spurs in 15 months. It's ridiculous to suggest ten Hag needs more time.
Pure class as always 👍 keep up the good work.
3:11 Your live coverage is always on point. Keep up the great work!
I don't understand anymore.
It is so messy right now that you are not sure whether the coach failed to give clear or right instructions or the players couldn't understand the instructions or they failed to execute the instructions or they have no understanding with each other so the instructions are failed to be executed.
United looks like they don't have clear identity but this only happens since Rangnick took over where they started to build a team that plays like an elite team (high pressing). Rangnick is a man that obviously have clear philosophy of what he wants his teams to play yet failed to do so in United. You could say that it was the players' fault at that time. However, the same things happens now with ETH where he got his sets of players.
I don't understand anymore.
Excellent analysis, well done. COYS!
Spot on , Adam, as a Man U fan, not at all surprised. Finally, as if we haven’t seen it before, everyone can clearly see how much ten Hag is totally out of his depth and will be gone well before the end of the season. The problem for Ineos is who to replace him with. Strikes me Liverpool got the better Dutchman, who exudes confidence and competence, in contrast to our Erik, who is awkward, defensive and completely lacking in charisma.
Brighton got a relatively unknown 2. Bundesliga manager and he has been good, so there is definitely options out there to replace ten hag with
This manager even got rejected by Tottenham Hotspur. They knew something was off about this guy 😂😂
@@theemotionalremix and Spurs also went after Slot (but he opted (wisely) to wait for a better opportunity)
@@bwvl Ange and Spurs are a match made in heaven. Doubt anyone would trade him for Slot now
Any manager that has a good system will give manu problems! Even with average players!
9:45 This is the exact problem with Man Utd. Arne Slot said it in one of his first interviews - "forget about tactics if you can't win your duels". Man Utd's attitude was shocking in this game. You can sack ETH and bring any top manager but unless you fix this attitude, you are not going to get anywhere.
ETH had major fault, he setup them poorly, but these players just have no desire. Never seen Havertz, Saka, Martinelli stop chasing the ball. Salah at 32 does more than Rashford. Neither Rashford nor Garnacho tracked back after losing the ball to Van de Ven. Dalot just stopped tracking Johnson for the goal, and it was just the 3rd min. You could bang your head as a coach, but desire can't be taught. Still, it's mostly on ETH.
People thinking Tuchel or Nagelsmann will work magic, they need to be cautious because Man United players and gegenpressing are antonyms. Under Ragnick, we pressed for 30 mins against Palace and never did it again.
Maybe the attitude is because of the manager?
@@Aarya-v5n Been saying it and saying it. They should get Keane on staff to privately and publicly humiliate these pre-Madonna's. Their is no fear of these embarrassing performances from the players because the standard is now so low, we are celebrating slightly above average efforts in draws with Palace. Their egos need to be broken and those that haven't got the heart or bottle to play at the most scrutinized football team in the world shown the exit.
@@EddyGonzalez1509 Ofc, Manager has a role. Even the mental aspects are partially on ETH but if a team needs this external motivation, then the players need to be questioned. Wearing a Man United jersey and playing at OT doesn't need any more motivation. Ironically, in ETH's 1st season only, I have never seen us with so much energy and spirit, we didn't lose a game at OT after Brighton and Sociedad, all those comeback wins against Barca, City, in the FA Cup rounds. Everything just vanished. It's seriously incredible we have reached here after the end of 1st season's optimism.
@@Guttsdoyle We should do something of that sort fr!! Because an avg team with a strong mentality will always beat a lethargic and unmotivated so called better team, the best example being 1-1 draw with Twente. Eriksen said, They simply wanted it more. I mean ETH is at fault but no manager should be required to provide motivation in every game, and if he has to then it's the failure of the players. And if you notice, whenever we get in a new manager, we improve the results, the mood changes and then in the 2nd season, things start to dampen. Why's that, it isn't necessarily because the manager has abruptly went clueless and lost his tactical acumen, it's because all that mental motivation with the arrival of the new manager has died out by the 2nd season. Let's bring in Nagelsmann or Tuchel, I still doubt whether we will be title challengers within 2 seasons, because of this very reason and our reactionary fanbase won't be patient with the new manager.
Good video, Liam. You should certainly do the less common ducks. We get quite a variety on my local patch, and it’s always good when the visitors arrive.
Great analysis as always! Thank-you
Love this bro. As much as I blame the players for being absolutely clueless in sensing danger and stopping it ,no matter what position you’re in.
I also blame the manager for not addressing our weaknesses. I feel there’s a big coaching gap with Ten Hag. He’s not able to impose any strict restrictions on the pitch. Like stopping players from entering our box or just situational awareness in and out of possession
I was really waiting for this video
Good analysis. What I have been saying / thinking for a while - you don’t get the aggressive press without the high line.
How does ten Hag not know that? It’s the most glaring thing in the press, if you were to high press, keep it compact and cut off passing lanes and options. Even the Sunday league guys know this.. staggering 😢😢😢
Liverpool fan here. I really hope nobody high up at Old Trafford watches this and Erik stays put for as long as possible. Boss content
Love it! 😂 Best laugh and video I’ve seen in ages! COYS
good to see adam clearly seeing him after a long time after his whatculture days.
i also saw a problem where mainoo would pick up the ball when attacking, he would then make a pass and then immediatley run into the box simultaneolsy we would lose the ball and tottenham would have so much space
Midfielders do that all the time at Man City, Liverpool, etc.
The problem is when united do it the other players don’t fill up the space forward the left open. Basically their lines are all over the place when attacking that’s why it’s the only ‘big’ team that when losing the ball are far off their markers and it’s too risky to apply pressure.
Have you seen Man City when losing the ball when attacking? They are so close to their markers quickly close them down.
Basically ten sack has no philosophy or style of play and players are confused.
This is one thing i havent seen from a man utd manager in a while, is the ability to recognize whats happening in the game, and making changes to tactics to fix it
The number of column inches and airtime that manchester united's men's football team gets amazes me to end.
Just found this channel, brilliant analysis
I absolutely love your guys’ vids, would love to see you guys cover Napoli (again)
Been waiting for this one great timing
Great analysis, thanks Adam!
I am a man utd fan and this video, infact this channel should be the tactical team coach for us. Let them manage the team for one season and they will perform way better
that screengrab of the red card captures the moment After Brunos studs had raked across Maddison's leg. At this point the foul is already done. Watch the whole foul and you'll see Bruno slip, then lunge out studs first and catch Maddison under the knee - to me thats a very obvious red
I'm not sure that it's an obvious red, but the fact that he kept stretching with his leg after slipping tips it easily into soft red territory. Deliberate and reckless, even if the outcome was mild.
I have to agree and I'm baffled how many people seem to think it's not a red purely on the basis that he didn't mean to do it. Intent isn't necessarily the deciding factor in these situations, red cards can still be given if the incident was dangerous, like in this case. Bruno may not have meant to catch Maddison that high up on the leg but he still intended on the challenge itself, and the fact that he slips and loses all control of the challenge makes the whole thing worse, not better.
Far too many people seem to think that catching someone halfway up the leg is fine as long as they didn't mean to do it 😆
This guy is incredible!! Amazing analysis and insight...
There is no point in over analysing united's losses. They lose because they dont press to win the ball or to force the opponent into a mistake, passive press, they dont win duels, they incessantly make mistakes. I saw players hesistate to go for a ball. The only player who presses with an aim to pressure the opponent is mount the rest are putting up running numbers. Team looks like a bunch of 40 year olds playing a testimonial match. Game pace is tooooo slow and we have way too many players that are naturally inclined to lose the ball.
Footballing Intelligence at Man United since 2013 has been horrendous.
Ten Hag is done. I've wanted him sacked for almost a year. It's been obvious for a quite a long time that he needed to go. I couldn't understand why the fanbase started going crazy after the final. We have played pretty poorly since the Carabao Cup win in 22/23.
9:52: I don’t know a lot about soccer which is why I like watching videos like this. I do know a lot about basketball though, and in basketball transition defense, the #1 priority is to stop the ball
Alex Ferguson " Lads , it's Tottenham " 🤭🤭🤭
I saw the De Light rush too and remembered how surprised I saw. The United team was totally under prepared.
Only Busquets or Andrea Pirlo could save Ten Hag with this style.
Adam Clery was brilliant at wrestling analysis at what culture and even better at football analysis here on fourfourtwo.
I think about United's previous match against Crystal Palace where they created lots of chances, didn't take any, and Palace fixed their vulnerability at half time. In this case, Spurs score with their first attack of each half and Fernandes gets sent off. You sort of saw that adjustment from United in the period they were on top, but the damage had already been done and once again, they couldn't convert any of their chances.
While goals (and sendings off) clearly do change games, it can't be coincidence that United keep coming out second best in these crucial moments. There were a few moments (including right before Van de Ven's run and assist) where the ball could have broken either way and Spurs always seemed to win it. That strikes me as a mental thing-no team is so unlucky as to consistently fail to “get the bounce”.
MUFC need to do the basics, then build on that. They are busy with tactics when they don't even have any team rhythm. 1. Don't give up the center space. All 11 are responsible for it. 2. When in posession there should always be 2 passing options. If you see those options are covered it is your job to become another passing option. 3. If u ever get to the opposing box SHOOT. As long as you pit it on frame eventually good things will happen. Done. Gimme EtH's job.
Great analysis!
This is great. I don't have any other notes here
Can I ask you what make of mic you use, as I’m looking to buy one? Thank you. 👍🏻
As a United fan, I knew this was going to be a tough watch, but I love your analysis. Just wish the executives at United would watch it!!!
just shows how awful ETH is and why they should have sacked him when they had the chance ridiculous
Short answer ten hag
Long answer man utd
They got destroyed because they are bad
Garnacho was the only United player that worried me as a Spurs fan. The rest of them were rubbish besides maybe Onana who actually made two great saves with the asterisk of them being from Timo Werner.
What would be interesting is looking at uniteds decent patch in the first half and why ten hags substitutes ended the decent patch.....
I really hope they win soon... Just so he stays longer for more comedy performances like this
got porto and villa next, hopefully he's out the door
how is it ten hags fault when the players couldn't string 2 - 3 passes in a row without losing possession the players were absolutely shit today the real question needs to be what is in the food?! Almost unbelievable how bad they were individually comparing to Tottenham players all were better and played and pressed wonderfully as a team
@@Gjunya yes it's the players fault keep Ten Hag
best football content on the internet
Excellent stuff, can u do spurs every week please
This is just the long way of saying “Erik Ten Hag” 😂
it’s like watching a train wreck 😭 but i’ll be back on the couch watching with bells on next match
Closed this when you said Bissouma 🙄
That chaos you're talking about is exactly how Ten Hag likes to play, he wants chaos in the transition. He basically wants all of the play to be transition phases. All of this is by design.
Some great points and observations. However, for me that much detail is not required to highlight the biggest issue in that first half. In simple terms the biggest downfall was the sheer amount of times utd players had poor touch, poor passes, and loss of possession when they weren't under serious pressure from spurs. This left them chasing back and chasing their tails. Watch the first half back and you'll see how often that happened, from supposedly top class professionals. Simple loss of possession.
Great video, but the field lines always annoy me. The 18 yard box should be 3 times as far from the goal line as the 6 yard box.
Tacos are top tier by themselves just pitting their ingredients into a bun is uninspiring and low effort.
As a spurs fan watching the game it felt like it could have ended 0-0 except for those few glimmers. I still feel we're at the beginning of the Ange project but Solanke is a massve part of that and as he gets better it will make us better
Sir Alex: Lads, it’s Tottenham