How I earn over $50k a year with ART | Art Business Storytime

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  • @Leonardo-we4po
    @Leonardo-we4po 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I was a 10 year old commission artist for like, 2-3 months, then I quit because I felt like I didn’t have enough creative freedom. Now I’m making oil paintings with my own ideas and I’m planning on putting them online for sale but I plan to do a couple more. I’m about to turn 13 and I’m taking online marketing classes to further my understanding of business so I could properly sell my paintings. Commissions aren’t for everyone, they’re pretty difficult imo. Love the video btw!

  • @CharlesHancockCreations
    @CharlesHancockCreations 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I've been on TH-cam for just over a year. I typically created art for fun and I guess, for my mental health. 2 years ago someone sat me down and genuinely asked, "Why are you a bouncer at a bar." He fixed in on my eyes continuing, "Risking my life....and hands. With your talent wouldn't you want to be an artist?"
    It changed my life.
    I did some metacognition and mulled over my needs and wants. I was careful to put emotions on the back burner.
    I started doing some commission work and a friend convinced me to take a shot at TH-cam. See where it leads. ALWAYS REMEMBERING MY ACTUAL GOAL: Becoming a working full-time artist. 🎨 While leaving myself open to new horizons and alternative destinations.
    I just broke 100 subs. I have a day job that I have to continue with for my current obligations and responsibilities.
    I make sure to give time everyday to the channel and my personal art growth.
    You inspire. Thanks to you and yours.🙏💙

  • @ItsLizV
    @ItsLizV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Thanks for sharing your story. I have a goal of earning 5k a month from my art, whether that's youtube revenue, shop sales, patreon whatever! I feel the same way you do, in that I believe it's something I can achieve in the next couple of years. I started making money this year ( I opened a shop finally ) so the ball is now rolling! :D Good luck with reaching your goal, I know you've enrolled in a business class so I'm sure that'll help you too!!

  • @angeliqueroux3017
    @angeliqueroux3017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    In case anyone is turned off by taking commissions, I've only twice had a commission client tell me to change something. Most clients just let me do what I want. I think it depends on your price range & skill level.

    • @sherilefholzclarkson1051
      @sherilefholzclarkson1051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes but how do you get people interested in wanting to commission you to do something for them? That is where I struggle the most.

  • @CatsInDungarees
    @CatsInDungarees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Nice to hear your story, as me being a kid commission artist too, it's nice to hear others tips and opinions.

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for watching :)

    • @GraffbyJL
      @GraffbyJL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep doing it! Travel and chase every opportunity, invest into your art. And just do you!

  • @azurastar1508
    @azurastar1508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for uploading!!!! Amazing 💖

  • @charliesantini20
    @charliesantini20 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work! Congrats!

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION ปีที่แล้ว

    This was inspiring to hear, thanks for sharing!

  • @bm6753
    @bm6753 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very inspirational ! 💖💖💖💖

  • @naturejelisabeth
    @naturejelisabeth ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for sharing so honestly - also about your ambitions & goals! really appreciate it! :)

  • @SarahMariLucas
    @SarahMariLucas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I often wondered why I felt the way I did about certain things, and to hear another person feel and think the same way - is so reassuring! Definitely relate to wanting to be your own boss and feeling restricted when doing commissions! Great video and you have inspired me - wish you all the best :)

  • @teijnabrahniuk4115
    @teijnabrahniuk4115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed thanks for your story !

  • @hudahassan2534
    @hudahassan2534 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for sharing your story 🤍 you are amazing ✨✨

  • @shmickcreations
    @shmickcreations ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @mikewgilliam
    @mikewgilliam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ty for your story and your journey. Also your honesty about not only your success but your failures, so many people tell you how awesome and great there stories are. You told the lows and your highs , ty again.

  • @annikatorrent
    @annikatorrent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! It's so inspiring, exactly what I needed now! Thank you so much, you did an amazing job ♥️♥️

  • @fyocouch6172
    @fyocouch6172 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful human! Thank u for sharing, very inspiring ❤️

  • @leonardofurino1503
    @leonardofurino1503 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are a great artist and beautiful person, congrats!

  • @estherdeangelis
    @estherdeangelis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou Amie for sharing your Art story so honestly and thoroughly. Starting with the search for your ideal medium, your first competition producing such interest and then the creative frustration and restriction you faced as an artist who was churning out pet portraits. Aligning with Patreon, taking on teaching and further commissions became a healthy side hussle and declaring your independence and building your Art business. I love the fit you found; the freedom you discovered in teaching students how to draw wildlife with coloured pencil. Inspiring *!*

  • @johnbishopfineart
    @johnbishopfineart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. We went full-time in 2015 here in Texas, and have never looked back. Can't wait to see your next episodes, so I just subscribed. Thanks

  • @MaryCorbell
    @MaryCorbell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful and inspirational! As a new art business owner myself, I’m so happy for your success and it’s motivating me in my adventure to solvency and then abundance! ❤️ cheers!

  • @tinnntinnn
    @tinnntinnn ปีที่แล้ว

    I checked out your instagram to see your art and I was blown away like WHAT??? You are amazing and deserve waaay more followers. So anyway, I'm definitely a fan!

  • @alysondavies
    @alysondavies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @tlchallinor
    @tlchallinor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This spoke to me sooo much! I’m a full time corporate employee wishing to be a full time artist.

  • @noornematizade5102
    @noornematizade5102 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was amazing 💛
    I learned a really really important point that will help me a lot , so thanks a lot 😍✨

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful and informative video! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @mjpete27
    @mjpete27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amie! So exciting to see your success! You have done well and will continue to do well! I never had this kind of success in the 30+ years working as an artist. I made enough to pay my bills and as a semi-retired person, I can now create the art I want to create. The opportunity for artists to make more than “a living“ is so much easier in the global reach available today! I would never have dreamed of selling a watercolor card to someone in the UK ! You have customers in California, USA, even cards to sold cards to people all over the world! Congratulations! You just keep working hard and I believe that your dreams will come true!

  • @MariJadeWrites
    @MariJadeWrites 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your story! it's so inspirational to hear other artist's stories :)

  • @GLRDesignsdotcom
    @GLRDesignsdotcom ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so helpful...thank you! You seem lovely and I wish you the best in getting to $100,000/yr!! :) Go for it!!! :)

  • @seneliranaraja4885
    @seneliranaraja4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing this! It actually filled those small gaps that I was wondering about! Wishing you all the best ❤️

  • @AmaPeel
    @AmaPeel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amie, thanks for the inspiration and honesty about the hard work and following your passion for art and teaching. I have been subscribed for awhile and have learned considerably from your content even longer... Your TH-cam tutorials are excellent and I continue to use them as I explore new techniques and products. They have improved my colour pencil art immensely. You and Alan Woollett, two of my favourite art teachers! I have to ask, what is with the Fluval canister filter behind you in this video...a new aquarium? Fish drawings soon?

  • @jenna_n_goodwell_art
    @jenna_n_goodwell_art 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IIt's so inspiring to hear your journey and all the twists and turns that you made!
    I'd love to make a living from my art, wether it's by selling originals and prints, youtube, patreon ... but idk, I just can't seem to turn the tide on my failing social media and inability to sell ...

  • @monet23232
    @monet23232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to oil painting classes for years. I thought the way you colour your pictures are a bit like doing oil painting. Now I understand why! I still love oil painting but my dog is allergic to oil. I then started coloring the colour books. I am hooked and I just joined your class. Looking forward to the full tuition 😄

  • @jennydevlin4064
    @jennydevlin4064 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amie, I’d love to chat to you about starting my art business. I am really struggling with it but it’s because I really don’t know what I’m doing at all. I have limited amount of time to make it work due to my other job. You’re an absolute inspiration, I’m so glad I came across this video! ❤️

  • @hollyneal453
    @hollyneal453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this amie 😍

  • @SashaFitzgerald
    @SashaFitzgerald 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved hearing about your art and business journey! It’s so inspiring hearing that you are able to make a good living with your art and own a home and provide for your child. I’m excited to watch the other biz videos you’ve linked, thank you for making these resources! 💜😊

  • @deejay2838
    @deejay2838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great story Amie ! I have followed you from the time you were doing livestreams on utube and have seen you grow so much over this time, Hope you gave yourself a big pat on the back !! Keep up the awesomeness ! Thanks for sharing and Take care ! 💗🌺😃

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you soooo much :)

    • @deejay2838
      @deejay2838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Amiehowardart 💖

  • @artsyzaina6101
    @artsyzaina6101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I related to this so much. i cant wait for the day when I'll be able to stay home with my kid and make income just from art. wish me luck guys

  • @Hey_Delight
    @Hey_Delight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh thanks...I came accross your channel...while looking for artists whose more into colored pencils.
    I tried acrylic but havent try oil, watercolor, and guache... but someday, maybe.

  • @benfineart9301
    @benfineart9301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great story Amie! Your journey is very inspiring 🙂

  • @vanessaamaya93
    @vanessaamaya93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You and me both, I don’t like to work outside in person and even socialize outside because it’s not really my thing. All I do is work on my own as an artist.

  • @franjaureguim
    @franjaureguim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so so much for sharing this beautiful moment with us. Take good care of you and your beloved ones. Specially your little angel. 🌙🤍🌙

  • @lynnrushton7458
    @lynnrushton7458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I for one, am soooo happy you chose the teaching route 🙏 I have improved my art SO MUCH since finding you‼️
    I don’t doubt for a moment that you will achieve your goal.
    Good luck.....not that you need it xx

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much, Leo twin

  • @sophiegorein8635
    @sophiegorein8635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very inspiring 💞 Congratulations 😀💖💖💖

  • @rhondacraneart
    @rhondacraneart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Congratulations on all your success! 👏🏻 You’ve given me hope that I too can become a full time artist in the near future. 😊

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much! You can do it :)

  • @Artbooksandboro
    @Artbooksandboro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for that video, my Journey mirror's yours upto a point, but your further along than I am. My first venture was Pyrography and at the time it seemed great(although my work wasn't) but soon ended up being more like a printer making same artwork over and over, I then had a major break down mentally(not related to the art, just a bad time in my life). 4 year ago I met my new partner and we had a baby and although I did keep on with art I had other priorities. I started drawing with graphite pencil which has always been my thing since a kid as my main medium and people started wanting me to draw pets for them, but it was through word of mouth and I was doing OK but extremely bored. Luckily my partner is very supportive and is on-board and encouraging for me to make a career from art, but I realised that I wouldn't be able to sustain a family and keep my sanity by only using graphite. So my next step was to learn coloured pencil and add another string to my bow which although a lot of graphite drawing is interchangeable with coloured pencil(and Pyrography) there is differences which I am working on. I am now at a stage where my work is to a standard I am content with although I will always strive to improve and learn new things. I am now looking to take that next step in my journey and thats where I ended up watching your video, I have unofficially set a 2 year target to make my art a sustainable career. So thank you very much for your video it is content creaters like yourself who have given me the extra knowledge and confidence to actually take steps from art being a hobby or semi professional artist to try take it to the next level.

  • @Skarta
    @Skarta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely hearing how you developed, as an artist and a businesswoman. Im at tge start if my art jouney and im not sure. On my style or what i want to focus on and jeep jumping between diifferent mediums. Hoping to use this year as a leaping point to hone my skills and develop my style.

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you :) no one will start out doing exactly what they set out doing, treat it as a journey and you'll go far :)

  • @GemmaMorganArt
    @GemmaMorganArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for sharing your story! I'm a full time high school art teacher and I've recently started an art TH-cam channel. Your story is so inspiring. I hope to make a full businesse out of my art too, as I don't really like working for other either!!

  • @MissAlpacaToes
    @MissAlpacaToes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video I have felt a bit lost with everything!

  • @feeltaste702
    @feeltaste702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Amie Howard Art* I like your video ! Awesome

  • @ramintaart
    @ramintaart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a great video! Loved to hear about your business path! I wish I could watch such an inspiring video a long time ago 😊

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for watching :)

  • @AmyLouiseArt
    @AmyLouiseArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really needed this. Having a very bad and emotional day today and this video really cheered me up 😊 I loved hearing about how you started out your business, and how you’ve grown since you started your business. You are an inspiration Amie. Thank you for your channel & your beautiful artworks 💕

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks so much, Amy :) hope you're feeling better!

  • @iamanillussion
    @iamanillussion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ur so beautiful and ur room is gorgse

  • @belindax4897
    @belindax4897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lovely honest and open talk. I do my art purely for me and my own pleasure and don’t expect to earn money from it as I started waaaay to late,while all of us at some time think yes it would be nice to earn money from art but I am not that ambitious so well done to you. Couldn’t have been easy with a baby in the mix either. We all love your you tube videos and those of other you tubers but we don’t really appreciate the editing time it takes to get a professional type video out there. Good on you for earning big bucks and I hope you get to your goal.

  • @PetiteDeRae
    @PetiteDeRae 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ngl.. this is exactly where I'm at right now. It's weird how similar the stories are! I'm just starting digital art, done commissions, funny covid christmas cards but wanting to expand my horizon within the new year with new styles and concepts (working PT now). I want to have my own style and do landscape/travel photos? I love humour, cute, quirky and japanese things so I think i'll try and incorporate all this somehow.. don't ask me what yet 😂 Thanks for this video tho, makes me feel like I can maybe get somewhere with this!

  • @rootandstitch
    @rootandstitch ปีที่แล้ว

    “No more drawing peoples pets from blurry photos” I felt that one 🤣🤣

  • @paulappswildlifeart
    @paulappswildlifeart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Amie, just watched the video and found your channel, looking further and realised that you are just a few miles away from me. small world. love the content. best wishes Paul Apps

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Paul! yes, small world =P

  • @patriciahamel5674
    @patriciahamel5674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great way to add a small income stream to your existing business is to license your artwork to different businesses. I don't know if you have considered that or not, but a lot of stores would probably pay for your artwork so that they could put it on items like home decor and such.

  • @mohamedakram-sd4kv
    @mohamedakram-sd4kv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great

  • @toricaple1327
    @toricaple1327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was very inspiring!! It also helps to understand where you have come from prior to this point. Lots of hard work..Good on you! Question-Do you have a degree in art or are you self taught? I love your live streams watching you draw with colored pencils. Your artwork is superb. I look forward to watching your continued journey. Congrats on what you have accomplished. You made it happen!!!

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much :) nope, self taught =D

  • @warriorforchristscarlet3623
    @warriorforchristscarlet3623 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm trying as well to male my art a full time job... I'm 32 years old.. been drawing since I was a kid... I work a 8 to 5... its a struggle in q small town.. but... I'm trying.. and praying to the Lord I can perue my art career... full time. I even sneak art at my job to work on. On and off haha...

  • @emmalouiseireland4529
    @emmalouiseireland4529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a great story, it's what I would love to do also I'm just finding it hard to feel confident about starting a piece and it then turning into a hot mess. I do have a question about your patreon. Will you be producing more tutorials for the $10 tier, I would love to fully commit every month but there seems to be more being put out for the $14 each month and I'm unable to afford that one. I hope you're having a great weekend. Xoxo

  • @eunice5727
    @eunice5727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm on the first fase ☺️🤗 "sharing on social nerwork"

  • @piecesofhappy3690
    @piecesofhappy3690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always wanted to learn how to draw/paint. I never thought it was possible, and fell towards knitting, sewing and crochet. But, that want to draw has always been there. I’d love to be able to do this one day, and you are such an inspiration. When did you start drawing, did you take lessons or did you just have a “natural” talent?

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can totally do it! I've always loved art, never really had much natural talent, just practice and honing of skills :)

  • @Gwenluvsmusic
    @Gwenluvsmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking forward to your video on Aug 28th 2022, on how you have a 100k a year art business 👌🎨

  • @skullbreakerplays
    @skullbreakerplays 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never related to a human being like how I did with you. Wonderful video.

  • @gadhwalmangeram5548
    @gadhwalmangeram5548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    World best artist

  • @gadhwalmangeram5548
    @gadhwalmangeram5548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please draw lighting mcqueen

  • @ricardobuchner5153
    @ricardobuchner5153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello from Brazil!
    Three years later from this video, I'm curious how things are going for you! I really hope you reached your goals!
    Right now, I'm on the start of my journey just like yours! Painting pet oil portraits and some colorful acrilic portraits to fulfill my freedom needs! 😊
    I'm kind of lost about where to start. I already sell some work but locally the rates are very low, so I have to do it as a side job, on my free time.
    I don't know if I start an TH-cam channel or invest my time on painting viciously and publish many works on Instagram.
    Any thoughts?
    Thank you!

  • @sheldonsaintstudio
    @sheldonsaintstudio ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious as to what do you use to record your videos?

  • @amyparker1762
    @amyparker1762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @karenmcfarlan6347
    @karenmcfarlan6347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to hear your start up story. Did you get any grants or start up finance from anywhere

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nope, just used my own money to invest in products and marketing :)

  • @acelestialwitch8512
    @acelestialwitch8512 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you mentioned that you now work from home as a mother you gained my subscription! I am the same I am happiest working for myself and aim to take the leap when my youngest starts school this sept. I use the iPad and procreate also. I do often wonder if I can teach art, I have a art diploma and have been creating art for a long time but I needed to find that flow that I am in to create from my heart than on a sort of pressure based option. My brother is a tattoo artist, so we are a creative family! Thanks for sharing!

    • @acelestialwitch8512
      @acelestialwitch8512 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also my dad always told me I should be an illustrator. I had some inheritance when my nan passed so I took the plunge and got a iPad. It is a tad scary the idea of using so many sites for marketing and becoming self employed, but I hope that I can make it work and possibly start a channel soon

  • @kalilavalezina
    @kalilavalezina 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any tips on marketing? This seems to be where I struggle the most, no idea how to promote myself. Posting to social media doesn't do much.

  • @TmHudsonArt
    @TmHudsonArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been thinking of patreon or skillshare myself but I worry about making good enough quality videos and whether I can get an audience as i struggle to get a following anywhere no matter what...at the moment, i am just living on commissions and have been for just over a year but really would like to start moving elsewhere and, like you, do NOT want to go back into employment. Done too long already...

  • @painting7728
    @painting7728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am trying to sell my painting but the only one I have sold are to people I know

  • @cherryj
    @cherryj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you ever use pastel pencils?

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've used them before but i hate the texture of them XD

  • @sarahclemons9191
    @sarahclemons9191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you left handed?

  • @annehmbar
    @annehmbar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still don't get why people want a photo of their pet drawn in the exact same way that the photo looks like. Like, just look at the photo if you don't want alterations on it??? For me it adds no value to just draw a photo 1:1 and i've done it for friends and family. But i just don't get it.

  • @olgakozlova4413
    @olgakozlova4413 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you are not an artist, you are the teacher.

    • @Amiehowardart
      @Amiehowardart  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can be both, you know. I’m teaching art and still practicing art, therefore artist

  • @Rikitangoable
    @Rikitangoable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know its good when you chefs kiss lol

  • @HeatherBryant22
    @HeatherBryant22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sent you a message on IG!

  • @gadhwalmangeram5548
    @gadhwalmangeram5548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who dislike your vedio they are mad

  • @sidykuroart
    @sidykuroart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can we be friends ?

  • @michealrivera2228
    @michealrivera2228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dont get me wrong I love my wife till death but I wish I ment someone like u a partner someone who love art as much as me but its life good work tho

  • @hannayapelekai1628
    @hannayapelekai1628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It took ya 12 out of 17 minutes to get to the point of the video, and the whole thing could just be summarized with one sentence: "just get a patreon and teach people how to draw". Well alrighty then.

    • @Zimadonna
      @Zimadonna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The other answer that rarely is mentioned in these type of videos: Making videos like this and getting revenue from them.

  • @nigelmacleanpodcast
    @nigelmacleanpodcast ปีที่แล้ว

    Amie my goodness your beautiful, ide love to paint your portrait some day, your gorgeous, maybe sometime in the future I could get a nicely shadowed Portrait reference photo