Agreed. How western TV animation has generally trended towards less detail, rendering and colours on screen (at least as far as characters go), inverse to the growth of digital convenience and ease, is something that confuses and bothers me.
@@Lio_Convoy Haha, I hadn't even gotten to the shout out yet! Thank you dude. I will keep at it. More and better things releasing this year - and none of it will cost a million dollars.
a new star wars anime has been announced. it seems companies are chasing the dollar with how everything made by the west slap the anime title on top of it
@@harrypartridgelive yes exactly that fact of technological growth and decreasing difficulty should add to the performance of animation, like look at the stop motion animation studio laika. Once 3D printing became a thing they were able to increase the number of faces and range of motion they can give there characters. I think the problem is how the west views animation as “for kids/not a serious medium” for the most part so they don’t take it seriously and just want it done quick and cheap, because if you actually give it time or money then we can get shows live green eggs and ham
I hate it when channels that cover certain franchises, like Gundam, try to apologize for how “old” a series looks or was made. Gundam 079 will always be a masterpiece And yes, even the quote “lost episode”, because while the animation was the shows lowest quality, the story was still quality, and it’s a shame that Bandi and sunrise try to bury it
I have mixed feelings about this. C.H. Greenblat seems like a decent cartoon creator, but his approach to Hanna-Barbera characters doesn't seem to work. Genndy Tartakovsky, or Craig McCracken do a much better job at replicating H-B characters than Greenblat does. Also, people are entitled to their opinions about old cartoons that didn't have good production values, but to bend over backwards to defend a new cartoon that they haven't seen yet sounds asinine. What if it turns out bad? Will these people continue to stand by their claims of it being great? I just can't grasp this 'blind loyalty' to large corporations.
I feel like people should also be more aware and acknowledged about the Hannah Barbera film "Rock Oydessy". It had very good animation that could rival the Disney animated films of the time, a great soundtrack, good voice acting from Scatman Crothers, and well drawn backgrounds and special effects. If you minus the unnecessary scene where executives added in Hannah Barbara footage of yogi bear to the tune of a Cover of Wham's "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go". Other than that, it's a very good film. But unfortunately, do to executive meddling and disagreements due to a scene that made them unsure about the film, movie rights to the songs expiring, it only got one showing in the U.S. and that was at the 1987 second Los Angeles International Animation Festival. This along with Swat Kats should be considered significant because it showed that Hannah Barbera had more to offer than cheap limited animation. The animators had the skills, just not the budget.
This is the first video I’ve watched of yours, and as both an inspiring Content creator and Artist I have to say both your Critical analysis of the subject matter and The detail in your art are something to behold, many of your points you made i have said myself on Twitter, Reddit or just to friends wether IRL or online, I look forward to seeing more from your work
This series doesn't look half bad if you ask me. I was a fan of Chowder and Harvey Beaks and I like C.H's work a lot. I'm familiar with some of the older Hanna Barbera cartoons through re-runs on Boomerang in the early 2000's but I'm no super fan. I'm just gonna see what this new series is like; if I like it then I'll keep watching it if not,I'll accept that I don't like it.
I think changes to most of the characters are necessary since most of them have the same Yogi Bear template. C.H. Did said that this was not meant to be a nostalgic show
Finally got around to watching this, and I agree fully with your points. If I had a dollar for everytime I brought up how things like Gargoyles did things better with stuff in the 90’s because they actually gave a damn, I could afford a Lambo. I look forward to more vids from you man, keep up the good work!
Glad to see you back on twitter man and loved the vibe of this unedited video overall. Honestly didn't even know much less here about this show til this video so yeah the animation industry needs to work on getting the word out for this stuff above all else. But from what you showed yeah they need to at least try with these shows because people even kids are tired of this bland simple style. Especially in adult animation like jesus some shadows wouldn't kill you.
While I dislike that art style, I really dislike the term "Cal-Arts" as well for being a very inaccurate term. Many animators with that art style graduated from the New York Institute of Arts. I prefer "thin lined art style". EDIT: I was referring to the art style generally that is NOT used in _TTG_ . The art style used in _TTG_ is not "thin-lined art style".
Not just 'Teen Titans Go', but also 'Adventure Time', 'Steven Universe', ect. There are still cartoons that don't look like those shows, but they're the exception rather than the rule, and are becoming rare these days.
I’d be curious to know what art style you think would work better for a show with lighthearted wacky comedy. As far as I’m concerned, the chowder style compliments it well.
I feel like this may screw over CH Greenblatt also. Now don't get me wrong, Chowder and Harvey Beaks were good shows, but they were his own creations that mesh well with his humor. What's funny is there is an online animator that i can think of that can be a better fit for designing/animating the characters. The animator is know is called Cleverclover productions and despite his style being a bit reminiscent of comic strip art, his animation makes up for it by emulating the styles of both Looney tunes and Hannah Barbera. Especially his recent stuff. Another thing I want to point out is that this reboot came during the wrong place at the wrong time.
The show seems decent but man the art style got down grade from Chowder and Havery Beaks the art style for this show looks alright I'm starting to grow into it but man I don't know it feels werid. But I do agree with everything you said in the video great job.
I hate this show's art style.. And it really pains me because of how Greenblat was such a talented artist/animator. Now I just feel like he lost his touch with this crap.. It's so simplified and ugly.
@@happyhappystimpy6017 I know but I'm just saying why I'm going to see the show and why I think it could be all right or who knows I could be wrong it could be entirely crap
(Heads up, long comment here) Definitely late on this but, well said Lio As someone who also loves animation(in fact my dream is to become an animator/director) and grew up with various forms of animation and watching/reading behind the scenes on various movies and shows(even autobiographies from the likes of Hayao Miyazaki and most recently Don Bluth), even I know that animation is something that is very VERY difficult and especially now extremely talented artists or writers are not getting their proper credits because of how the industry is(not to say all of animation as overseas; though Japan also has this problem as well; you have both studios and artists who create some incredible works of art and are properly credited) One of my favorite documentaries is "Waking Sleeping Beauty" and it shows how the animators/artists/writers at Walt Disney Animation were just seen as the red-headed step-child for a long time after the passing of Walt Disney and how it took a group effort of all of these people and others; such as Alan Menken and the late great Howard Ashman; to come together and ended up starting what would become the Disney Renaissance and how such classic/timeless movies like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King came to be. Especially with Beauty and the Beast(which is also my absolute favorite Disney movie) they show and discuss how the original pitch of the movie would have been which....no; but especially how everyone put their blood, sweat, and tears into this movie and especially Howard Ashman who never saw the finished film due to passing away from AIDS but told the producer of Beauty and the Beast; Don Hahn; "I would" when Don told him that he knew that the movie would be incredible and he couldn't believe it and the movie ended being shown at the New York Film Festival; it was under "work in progress"; and how the film received a ten minute standing ovation from the audience and well, the rest of that story is animation and film history. It seems to me like when people try to defend something for whatever reason; can range from anything; these are usually people who don't understand the process of animation and how it is a bitch to work under corporations who value profit over wanting to tell a story; sure every so often you get some incredible animation even from a large corporation but it's not as noticeable as back then. Also I do agree on you with the comments saying stuff like "well if you think it's bad, do it yourself" to which even I have to say "alright then, show me YOU can make an animated short just to prove your point" if they cannot then perhaps they should look into the animation process and industry a lot more than the surface level I'll admit that I'm a traditional/hand drawn animation fan(mostly because I grew up with that) but even I have seen digital animation evolve and create some amazing stuff; just look at Arcane; or incorporated into something; The Iron Giant and Princess Mononoke come to mind; but again it takes time and effort into making something as grand as Arcane or Princess Mononoke and with the animation industry right now(especially here) that's not the case sadly Once again, absolutely agree with your take Lio(also on the "CalArts" comment; so did John K make that comment to dunk on The Iron Giant? Man, not only is the dude a freakin creep but truly a petty asshole)
I've watched the trailer a few times and I'm a little concerned about it, the one thing I don't like about it and it's becoming very common almost default with an older property is changing genders of some pre-existing characters just to pander exclusively to the audience. But as a whole Greenblat's art style looks okay and it feels right for reviving Hanna Barbera so I'm curious about where this will go. Oh and great Swat Kats piece btw.
It's not really pandering. I mean old Hanna Barbera was honestly kind of a sausage fest, so the fact that they kept the personality (except for Loopy) but made more girls adds to the modern feel the show was going for.
Great topic and fantastic art! I myself have been inspired to start a life long dream of making a comic book. I thought of trying to get my book published but then realized I don't need a publisher to get my work noticed I just need to create my work and distribute it physically and digitally.
Another defense I hate is “there are bigger problems in the world”, don’t think it was featured in the video, curious to know how you would have addresses it.
I'm just here to leave an unpopular opinion. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the show sure the arsal might not be for everybody which is understandable but I really want to see it the advertisement that it looks like it's going to be a funny little thing.
@@Lio_Convoy Just watch the video and I feel like a dumb-ass now. You made some really great points in this video good sir and I just want to say keep up the good work.
@@johncaulfield8935 He really didn't say anything mean I just didn't want the video at the time when I made this comment because I doubt it was the same complaints I've always heard but I was surprisingly wrong and I'm glad about that I'm glad about that
Hey Lio, are you familiar with a person, named Tom Preston (known by his real name as Andrew Dobson)? I think you should find a way to get in contact with him and do a debate about the animation industry. I know for a fact that you know more about animation than he does.
Oh, you mean Inflato-Bear? Yeah, I’m familiar with him. All he really does is freak out and block people on Twitter. He’d never agree to a debate; he lacks the courage for it.
And this is why so many people prefer to watch anime to cartoons these days. Not a lot of people like the modern cartoon art style for being too simple while anime has a different variety and it looks beautiful than what cartoons are putting out. Hell, even streaming services such as Netflix and soon Disney+ are promoting anime than cartoons.
I enjoy chowder and harvy But more chowder ,how it have so many animations style, stop motions, puppets ,even real life , man that was a show I cant forget even tho I dint wach any ep for years (maybe a clip or 2 on YT) But now animation today can be hit or miss , consider the director last works il be interesthink to see
idk jellystone's artstyle is perfectly fine comparing it with an H-B action cartoon from the 80s doesnt make sense. this is a comedy cartoon, made by the creator of chowder who also storyboarded spongebob. its better to compare it with something else. and a totally unrelated comedy cartoon from the internet isnt a good comparison either. yes, they were only 4 people, but they had much more time and again, they were aiming towards something different, while jellystone does not need that much details, shadows, etc because they would just look out of place and distracting in a comedy cartoon about old H-B characters (that never had stellar hyper-detailed animation like some other action cartoon). the jokes in ch greenblatt's shows are usually just random things, and his artstyle fits perfectly for that kind of comedy you also made another point about twitter getting mad for a few small animation errors first of all, it was that guy who got mad about that, and people were like "tf are you talking about" which is an understandable reaction, some of these arent even animation errors, like "ooo the line is missing there" when its part of the artstyle, the lineart is incomplete or purpose so his point doesnt even make sense
This show is a weaker version of The Looney Tunes show, and nobody can change my mind. Also they created a female character that was cool and likeable in the show, with not turning a previosly male character into a girl.
Agreed. How western TV animation has generally trended towards less detail, rendering and colours on screen (at least as far as characters go), inverse to the growth of digital convenience and ease, is something that confuses and bothers me.
Harry, my man! Just keep doing what you’re doing: showing them how it’s DONE!
@@Lio_Convoy Haha, I hadn't even gotten to the shout out yet! Thank you dude. I will keep at it. More and better things releasing this year - and none of it will cost a million dollars.
a new star wars anime has been announced. it seems companies are chasing the dollar with how everything made by the west slap the anime title on top of it
I agree
@@harrypartridgelive yes exactly that fact of technological growth and decreasing difficulty should add to the performance of animation, like look at the stop motion animation studio laika. Once 3D printing became a thing they were able to increase the number of faces and range of motion they can give there characters.
I think the problem is how the west views animation as “for kids/not a serious medium” for the most part so they don’t take it seriously and just want it done quick and cheap, because if you actually give it time or money then we can get shows live green eggs and ham
This is 10/10 times better than Thundercats Roar. There’s decent effort and it’s actually hilarious
I Agree With You 100%!
After watching this show, I really love it
But it's unoriginal
Best example used, Swat Kats was like many really good series was killed before it could be given a proper conclusion.
I hate it when channels that cover certain franchises, like Gundam, try to apologize for how “old” a series looks or was made. Gundam 079 will always be a masterpiece
And yes, even the quote “lost episode”, because while the animation was the shows lowest quality, the story was still quality, and it’s a shame that Bandi and sunrise try to bury it
All that drama over someone pointing out some animation errors? Twitter really can get weird.
Yeah
I have mixed feelings about this. C.H. Greenblat seems like a decent cartoon creator, but his approach to Hanna-Barbera characters doesn't seem to work. Genndy Tartakovsky, or Craig McCracken do a much better job at replicating H-B characters than Greenblat does. Also, people are entitled to their opinions about old cartoons that didn't have good production values, but to bend over backwards to defend a new cartoon that they haven't seen yet sounds asinine. What if it turns out bad? Will these people continue to stand by their claims of it being great? I just can't grasp this 'blind loyalty' to large corporations.
I agree
Yeah no
Yeah I watched it I completely disagree with everything you just said
I disagree with you Johnny and tony Nola
I feel like people should also be more aware and acknowledged about the Hannah Barbera film "Rock Oydessy".
It had very good animation that could rival the Disney animated films of the time, a great soundtrack, good voice acting from Scatman Crothers, and well drawn backgrounds and special effects. If you minus the unnecessary scene where executives added in Hannah Barbara footage of yogi bear to the tune of a Cover of Wham's "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go". Other than that, it's a very good film. But unfortunately, do to executive meddling and disagreements due to a scene that made them unsure about the film, movie rights to the songs expiring, it only got one showing in the U.S. and that was at the 1987 second Los Angeles International Animation Festival.
This along with Swat Kats should be considered significant because it showed that Hannah Barbera had more to offer than cheap limited animation. The animators had the skills, just not the budget.
This is the first video I’ve watched of yours, and as both an inspiring Content creator and Artist I have to say both your Critical analysis of the subject matter and The detail in your art are something to behold, many of your points you made i have said myself on Twitter, Reddit or just to friends wether IRL or online, I look forward to seeing more from your work
This series doesn't look half bad if you ask me.
I was a fan of Chowder and Harvey Beaks and I like C.H's work a lot.
I'm familiar with some of the older Hanna Barbera cartoons through re-runs on Boomerang in the early 2000's but I'm no super fan.
I'm just gonna see what this new series is like; if I like it then I'll keep watching it if not,I'll accept that I don't like it.
I agree
I think changes to most of the characters are necessary since most of them have the same Yogi Bear template. C.H. Did said that this was not meant to be a nostalgic show
Finally got around to watching this, and I agree fully with your points. If I had a dollar for everytime I brought up how things like Gargoyles did things better with stuff in the 90’s because they actually gave a damn, I could afford a Lambo.
I look forward to more vids from you man, keep up the good work!
Can't make their own original cartoon, so they shit on establishment product that had already set the standard.
Where have I seen THAT before?
If you can't create something yourself, but instead, shit on existing IPs, you shouldn't be working in animation.
Glad to see you back on twitter man and loved the vibe of this unedited video overall. Honestly didn't even know much less here about this show til this video so yeah the animation industry needs to work on getting the word out for this stuff above all else. But from what you showed yeah they need to at least try with these shows because people even kids are tired of this bland simple style. Especially in adult animation like jesus some shadows wouldn't kill you.
Not gonna say cal arts, but why does every show has to be Teen Titans Go style?
because cheapness
While I dislike that art style, I really dislike the term "Cal-Arts" as well for being a very inaccurate term. Many animators with that art style graduated from the New York Institute of Arts. I prefer "thin lined art style".
EDIT: I was referring to the art style generally that is NOT used in _TTG_ . The art style used in _TTG_ is not "thin-lined art style".
The term for the Toddler Titans art style is "dirt-cheap cash grabbing".
Bean-head style which they used in Luca
Not just 'Teen Titans Go', but also 'Adventure Time', 'Steven Universe', ect. There are still cartoons that don't look like those shows, but they're the exception rather than the rule, and are becoming rare these days.
I’d be curious to know what art style you think would work better for a show with lighthearted wacky comedy. As far as I’m concerned, the chowder style compliments it well.
I feel like this may screw over CH Greenblatt also. Now don't get me wrong, Chowder and Harvey Beaks were good shows, but they were his own creations that mesh well with his humor. What's funny is there is an online animator that i can think of that can be a better fit for designing/animating the characters. The animator is know is called Cleverclover productions and despite his style being a bit reminiscent of comic strip art, his animation makes up for it by emulating the styles of both Looney tunes and Hannah Barbera. Especially his recent stuff. Another thing I want to point out is that this reboot came during the wrong place at the wrong time.
The show seems decent but man the art style got down grade from Chowder and Havery Beaks the art style for this show looks alright I'm starting to grow into it but man I don't know it feels werid. But I do agree with everything you said in the video great job.
I'm still going to see the show it looks pretty decent and I do like the humor.
I hate this show's art style.. And it really pains me because of how Greenblat was such a talented artist/animator. Now I just feel like he lost his touch with this crap.. It's so simplified and ugly.
I don't No about all that honestly I think it could be all right it looks like it could be pretty funny giving his writing
@@kingj9664 ..I didn't talk about the comedy though.
@@happyhappystimpy6017 I know but I'm just saying why I'm going to see the show and why I think it could be all right or who knows I could be wrong it could be entirely crap
It's like the industry isn't pushing these creators to learn artistic skill beyond what they already know, and it's just sad.
@@kingj9664 @happyhappystimpy6017 is a manchild though
(Heads up, long comment here)
Definitely late on this but, well said Lio
As someone who also loves animation(in fact my dream is to become an animator/director) and grew up with various forms of animation and watching/reading behind the scenes on various movies and shows(even autobiographies from the likes of Hayao Miyazaki and most recently Don Bluth), even I know that animation is something that is very VERY difficult and especially now extremely talented artists or writers are not getting their proper credits because of how the industry is(not to say all of animation as overseas; though Japan also has this problem as well; you have both studios and artists who create some incredible works of art and are properly credited)
One of my favorite documentaries is "Waking Sleeping Beauty" and it shows how the animators/artists/writers at Walt Disney Animation were just seen as the red-headed step-child for a long time after the passing of Walt Disney and how it took a group effort of all of these people and others; such as Alan Menken and the late great Howard Ashman; to come together and ended up starting what would become the Disney Renaissance and how such classic/timeless movies like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King came to be.
Especially with Beauty and the Beast(which is also my absolute favorite Disney movie) they show and discuss how the original pitch of the movie would have been which....no; but especially how everyone put their blood, sweat, and tears into this movie and especially Howard Ashman who never saw the finished film due to passing away from AIDS but told the producer of Beauty and the Beast; Don Hahn; "I would" when Don told him that he knew that the movie would be incredible and he couldn't believe it and the movie ended being shown at the New York Film Festival; it was under "work in progress"; and how the film received a ten minute standing ovation from the audience and well, the rest of that story is animation and film history.
It seems to me like when people try to defend something for whatever reason; can range from anything; these are usually people who don't understand the process of animation and how it is a bitch to work under corporations who value profit over wanting to tell a story; sure every so often you get some incredible animation even from a large corporation but it's not as noticeable as back then. Also I do agree on you with the comments saying stuff like "well if you think it's bad, do it yourself" to which even I have to say "alright then, show me YOU can make an animated short just to prove your point" if they cannot then perhaps they should look into the animation process and industry a lot more than the surface level
I'll admit that I'm a traditional/hand drawn animation fan(mostly because I grew up with that) but even I have seen digital animation evolve and create some amazing stuff; just look at Arcane; or incorporated into something; The Iron Giant and Princess Mononoke come to mind; but again it takes time and effort into making something as grand as Arcane or Princess Mononoke and with the animation industry right now(especially here) that's not the case sadly
Once again, absolutely agree with your take Lio(also on the "CalArts" comment; so did John K make that comment to dunk on The Iron Giant? Man, not only is the dude a freakin creep but truly a petty asshole)
That explains it. In the meantime, I'll wait for Villainous season 1 which is completed and will release anytime now.
steven universe didn't get too much merchandise compared to how much other shows seems to get
That's one thing that bugged me when the show aired. I would've killed for a Garnet action figure
I've watched the trailer a few times and I'm a little concerned about it, the one thing I don't like about it and it's becoming very common almost default with an older property is changing genders of some pre-existing characters just to pander exclusively to the audience. But as a whole Greenblat's art style looks okay and it feels right for reviving Hanna Barbera so I'm curious about where this will go.
Oh and great Swat Kats piece btw.
I agree but I do like c.h. art style.
It's not really pandering. I mean old Hanna Barbera was honestly kind of a sausage fest, so the fact that they kept the personality (except for Loopy) but made more girls adds to the modern feel the show was going for.
Seems cool, but we don’t have Max.
i agree with Chowder, but i think Flapjack was worse
Great topic and fantastic art! I myself have been inspired to start a life long dream of making a comic book. I thought of trying to get my book published but then realized I don't need a publisher to get my work noticed I just need to create my work and distribute it physically and digitally.
Another defense I hate is “there are bigger problems in the world”, don’t think it was featured in the video, curious to know how you would have addresses it.
“Fallacy of Relative Privation”
Say what you will about Chowder, but if there is one undeniable truth, it was the ruler of 4th wall breaks
i prefer Ed Edd n Eddy
I'm just here to leave an unpopular opinion. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the show sure the arsal might not be for everybody which is understandable but I really want to see it the advertisement that it looks like it's going to be a funny little thing.
Could’ve waited until you saw the video. Lol
@@Lio_Convoy Just watch the video and I feel like a dumb-ass now. You made some really great points in this video good sir and I just want to say keep up the good work.
@@Lio_Convoy Okay, that was just unnecessarily mean
I didn't say anything mean.
@@johncaulfield8935 He really didn't say anything mean I just didn't want the video at the time when I made this comment because I doubt it was the same complaints I've always heard but I was surprisingly wrong and I'm glad about that I'm glad about that
3D/CGI Animation is 3 times Harder than Digital and Hand Draw Animation
How?
Your the first person that said chowder was annoying
I find Flackjack more Is obnoxious than Chowder.
I liked your rant but I also really enjoyed seeing that picture come together.
Well said.
Hey Lio, are you familiar with a person, named Tom Preston (known by his real name as Andrew Dobson)? I think you should find a way to get in contact with him and do a debate about the animation industry. I know for a fact that you know more about animation than he does.
Oh, you mean Inflato-Bear? Yeah, I’m familiar with him. All he really does is freak out and block people on Twitter. He’d never agree to a debate; he lacks the courage for it.
Just wondering, what program do you use to draw?
Clip Studio
And this is why so many people prefer to watch anime to cartoons these days. Not a lot of people like the modern cartoon art style for being too simple while anime has a different variety and it looks beautiful than what cartoons are putting out. Hell, even streaming services such as Netflix and soon Disney+ are promoting anime than cartoons.
I enjoy chowder and harvy
But more chowder ,how it have so many animations style, stop motions, puppets ,even real life , man that was a show I cant forget even tho I dint wach any ep for years (maybe a clip or 2 on YT)
But now animation today can be hit or miss , consider the director last works il be interesthink to see
Good to see my monthly recommended cringe has arrived today.
YOU'RE LATE.
So they're employing 3 year olds to animate these days, I see.
I'm pretty sure this was done by the same art who did chowder .
So you think this show involves child labor......
(I know that comment of yours was made as a quick joke, just wanted to make a lame joke 😂)
👍
idk jellystone's artstyle is perfectly fine
comparing it with an H-B action cartoon from the 80s doesnt make sense. this is a comedy cartoon, made by the creator of chowder who also storyboarded spongebob. its better to compare it with something else. and a totally unrelated comedy cartoon from the internet isnt a good comparison either. yes, they were only 4 people, but they had much more time and again, they were aiming towards something different, while jellystone does not need that much details, shadows, etc because they would just look out of place and distracting in a comedy cartoon about old H-B characters (that never had stellar hyper-detailed animation like some other action cartoon). the jokes in ch greenblatt's shows are usually just random things, and his artstyle fits perfectly for that kind of comedy
you also made another point about twitter getting mad for a few small animation errors
first of all, it was that guy who got mad about that, and people were like "tf are you talking about" which is an understandable reaction, some of these arent even animation errors, like "ooo the line is missing there" when its part of the artstyle, the lineart is incomplete or purpose so his point doesnt even make sense
This show is a weaker version of The Looney Tunes show, and nobody can change my mind. Also they created a female character that was cool and likeable in the show, with not turning a previosly male character into a girl.
am i reading a manchild's tantrum?
Jellystone is a terrible show! It’s woke, ruined my childhood and it’s disrespectful to the Hanna-Barbera legacy.
- a manchild who is whiny and annoying
Y’all overanalyze Twitter incels lol
It makes for interesting discussions.