@@Gurpreet-sv5zg Personally I liked 2018 and 2019 more, teams like IG, Griffin, RNG, G2, Fnatic, SKT made it very fun. Especially the meta in 2018 and 2019 was fun to watch. We had big upsets in 2018, 2019 was worse for sure but FPX was a fire team, I would want FPX vs SKT but worlds bracket disappoints like usual.
@@blendon8 In the end it's all about preference but for me 2018: Great upsets but only two great matches in knock out stage; IG vs KT and RNG vs G2 2019: A lot of stacked iconic teams but the meta was very non-interactive lane. This is the one where doinb auto shoves lane then makes an instant play in a side lane. Rookie was neutralized. Faker was neutralized. 2020 worlds meta offered lane dominant choices to counter act ppl hard shoving lane.
As someone whos been watching SI since they were on Ongamers, (or whatever that site with travis gafford was)... this has been one of the best episodes.
not a big fan of Thorin's takes and I don't agree with him on so many things but this episodes was literally one of my favorite in the whole esport talkshows etc.. the questions and the conversation were so on point ! Monte and Thorin literally read our minds addressing the right issues ! it was so satisfying to watch and Bwipo made it even better
No fucking way did i just watch 3 hrs of podcast. Great show... never stuck around so long. Also bwipo must be the nicest pro to have on these shows :)
This may sound weird, but I kinda can’t wait until players like Bwipo retire, in a hopes that we get this level of insightful content regularly. Ideally elevating the level of play of the next generation.
so true man. im a mid main and i love watching his streams even tho he plays top. so informative and he gives you another aspect of the game. I wish he streamed earlier
In retrospect, my favorite episode was where thorin argued w that guy then stopped telling cs go stories for the rest of the stream. Thanks for upload!
I love how people think Bwipo is stupid and just ints but when you listen to him - he is insanely knowledgeable and forward thinking when it comes to the game and the teams.
I would like to remind ppl of the blessing that we as esports and sports too lovers have in having a GENIUS without exagerating like Thorin hes such a blessing to the esports scene hes a 1 in 50 100 years type of talent hes a true natural in his craft im not talking oh he remembers the dates from 20 years ago from stuff that happened in gamd 3 etc no not even close im talking about the way his mind brain works how he constructs his thoughts and elaborates on those is Mindblowing to me im always left speechless and astounded and the fact that hes a GENIUS and not like introverted WOW thats like damn the jokes he makes if you dont believe me just watch the video he made about why the podcast with locodoco ended it opened my mind to many things we as an audience dont even think about like whos the entertainer how to keep the energy going etc i still need to watch the whole video i was like 20min in? yeah so yeah guys show your apreciation to him cause there wont be a new guy like Thorin in a long time after he decides to retire which i hope is never cause hes the UKS NATIONAL TREASURE LOVE YOU THORRIN( no homo kekw) thanks for doing what you do year after year youre loved by thousands if not millions of ppl. oh and his chemistry with Monte is amazing and i love Monte too but Thorin is an Anomaly hes an alien hes likeCR7 and Messi hes on a whole another level. Thx again for amazing content and the guests Bwipo is amazing the energy that he has is contagious. hes like on high doses of caffeine 24h ahaha love him.
I dunno why I hear/read that so often, but Faker had NOT his flash on Ruler's Varus flash in 2017 finals. He was 7sec short. It's easily checkable on the VoD: there is a small amount of remaining CD on Faker's flash icon, and furthermore Faker did a (whiffed) flash Q at 34:25 in the game, and Ruler's move is at 39:18.
After taking a break from League since early 2016, I thought this was a great Worlds Finals because when I came back in 2018, it was 2 straight years of 3-0 Finals. I actually feel bad that I missed out on most of SKT's glory years. Honestly, I can understand if people are a bit disappointed with the Finals. As an LCK fan, I'm perfectly happy to see Damwon win, but I would've been fine with Suning winning either after going through the Top 2 teams in their region. As for the quality of the game, you really can't please everybody. I think it's hard to get a Finals that's clean but not boring and action-packed but not a fiesta.
The best casters in the world for me personally are Tasteless and Artosis. I haven't seen duo nearly as educated about the game they're casting, having insane backstories and when they were on the roll I was shitting bricks.
In NA soloQ many people don't care about winning, they just want to get a good score individually, or have fun. Most people that I have talked to in solo Q say that doing well individually is the primary goal, winning is secondary. They would rather have a good KDA and lose than visa versa. This goes along with what Bwipo was saying, where a player will trade kill gold to enemy in exchange for a few minions and xp. Meaning, they would rather do well individually, than deny gold from enemy. They don't care if they are feeding because they get to keep playing and buy items. The goal is not to win, but to have a good experience. I actually played a game where ADC SUP MID JUNGLE all built sunfire aegis on Kat, Jihn, or whoever they wanted and actually said, "we lost but I had fun so I don't care."
Montecristo knows nothing about the impact of music on memories... the throwbacks of music in many people's minds brings back those memories of worlds moments
Bjergsen owns part of TSM and therefore should not play anywhere else. Meaning that if TSM wants to try another midlaner, that means Bjergsen retiring? (Because Bjergsen is not working for TSM internationally.) If people see him as one of the problems and not as one of the assets things change. There is a reason why top and jungler where the ones showing up at worlds for TSM. Bjerg amd DL are mentally broken at worlds. They are the problem at worlds for TSM. Thats why Bjergsen is forced to either retire or lose is shares.
I like how Thorin is talking about Malice as if he's just high elo on EUW, when he was also top 50 on Korea and played in kr challenger series, no competitive experience though i guess :D
on 40:00 , it was intentional bwipo cuz faker had no flash , he had like 20 sec cd on it or something and ssg knew that- thats why ruler flashed on to him
Idk if LS fails with T1 everyone who said that he is not a top tier coach is proven right. A team with Faker on it with the resources T1 has where theoretically the coach has a good amount of power. I think LS is a genius on his part of viewing the game but I doubt he will ever be a great head coach. And tbh him as a content creator/caster just feels right with his set of skills.
This is a bad take. You can't judge the effectiveness of a coach based on the results a team obtains. There are a lot of factors that effect it (player form, internal conflict, etc.), none of which can be isolated.
@@vrajbarot on what metric do we judge coaches then? If a coach has good game knowledge but everywhere he goes, internal conflict follows, at which point is that the fault of the coach? So if LS succeeds he gets the praise, if he fails we can't judge him. Good so let's just praise him and get it over with now and ignore him for the rest of time.
I understand the point Thoorin was making about Hubble Brown being a legendary historian and while I agree with the overall premise of the point, he’s definitely not the only guy he can adequately contextualise different era’s of basketball, and to the point a lot of those older guys including Hubble, don’t particularly understand the full context of the analytic Era, That’s why you have horrible casters like Reggie Miller and Chris Webber trying to make stupid cheap shot remarks at “nerds” about analytics when a guy dunks it saying things like; “take that analytics he says no to the 3 and flushes it home”.... When in reality no analytic ever in basketball has said a wide open 3 from Kawhi Leonard is better than an open Dunk. Hubbie is a legend yes, but there are plenty of guys that are really smart basketball minds now creating content, I mean a lot of NBA players have podcasts now too.
yeah same that was what ive been thinkin. i mean hes well known for his takes and his fixed personality. but im kinda worried for ls beacuse of how fans can be
You can't compare KDA songs to Rise though, they aren't equivalents, Take Over is this year's worlds song and equivalent to Rise or Warriors. I won't argue it's better than Rise but that's the one to compare it to. The KDA songs are supposed to be a bonus thing and it's just taken the spotlight.
I think Monty can take it but - hell he got interrupted by Thorin on a seconds basis. Let him tell one story for christ sake. ;) It's not like he is boring and the situation needs to be saved. In this case i think Thorin just enjoyed himself in this episode and that makes it somewhat alright. Beside that - less interrupting, more sharing.
Hey guys, Any chance of doing any sort of "CSGO for noobs" on Flashpoint? I am a LoL player and would love to get more into CSGO and understand the game! It's easy to grasp on the surface but quite hard to get the tactics etc... Would be a great chance to get new viewers as well!
As a person who gets hyped each year for worlds this was the only year I didn't enjoy. I don't know if it's the meta restricting creative play or just Damwon being the clear favorite after TES and JD gaming looked bad. The group stage games were better than the semi finals. Odly enough the best content was G2 vs Suning after Suning wasn't able to close out games and the TSM memes.
SOFM was the problem? wait what? Even Bwipo was confused and didn't agree at all with the statement, every professional player said the opposite. That SOFM was a damn beast. DWG was simply better. So you want to defend personal style in teams, but then if a guy does Nidalee GL and have a reason for it, you disregard him? The man got to the Worlds like that, far from being a bad carry player.
To be honest, I'm surprised people have some of these "nephew takes" they went over. I don't really know anyone who thinks JackeyLove has surpassed Uzi for instance. Maybe that's for the best.
Jackeylove hype trained in S9 summer when he finally did carry the IG lineup and then everyone went full blown delusional by thinking he was the best ADC ever. People forgot even DL/Corejj were spanking jackeylove 2v2 at worlds. If it ain't a kaisa/xayah meta he's def not as great.
I mean, there's people saying Broxah is a top jungler because he made world finals... nobody looks at the circumstances People are forgetting that IG was already pretty insane and they just needed an ADC that has two hands and eyes and it sort of helped that Jackey is still better than many, but any low resource ADC would have fit that team and the topside would still be overbearing
What Bwipo says about hoping Faker doesn't flash shows poor understanding. Faker didn't have flash it was about to come off cooldown, that is why they made the play in the first place.
Totally agree on this worlds being bad. I actually stopped watching after FNC/TES quarter because teams made lackluster decisions ingame. It was a pain to watch. You'd have thought they'd have stepped up their games, but nope.
Recency bias is a thing that exists so I can understand how people thing the newest thing is the best thing. But you have to remember recency bias and temper yourself. When talking about who the best top laner of all time is, remember there was a time where MaRin and smeb where the best top laners of all time. Doesn't look good now to say MaRin or smeb is the best top of all time and saying someone playing now is the best of all time might look equally silly in a few years.
Ayyyy thorin thanks for the shoutout!!! Glad you like the skits!!
you deserve it, the skits are holy haha
Bwipo was a fantastic guest.
I always love him on, hes great on every show
A fnatic guest.
Always is, the guy is a treasure for the scene.
This is the real Summon Insight. Nostalgic vibes with the 3+ hour show with banger guest. Drinking game btw whenever Bwipo says "ultimately"
Or any variation of "the point is".
Why did I not read this comment before watching. I coulda been wasted and watching. SHIT.
Every show with Bwipo is always insightful and interesting, I can’t wait for this one to deliver.
Amazing when a guest can actually hold up to Thorins.. talkativity let's say
verbosity? loquaciousness?
@@Sgt6u66les seems like you could compete as well, you got the words
bwipo is such a legend
Wide bwipo
I love when monte talks about old league. Something about it so soothing
League was awesome back then for sure. Maybe better than it is now, but hard to say.
This world's was the most boring one I can remember.
@@blendon8 Nah this worlds was a lot better. 2018 and 2019 was a snooze fest.
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg Personally I liked 2018 and 2019 more, teams like IG, Griffin, RNG, G2, Fnatic, SKT made it very fun. Especially the meta in 2018 and 2019 was fun to watch. We had big upsets in 2018, 2019 was worse for sure but FPX was a fire team, I would want FPX vs SKT but worlds bracket disappoints like usual.
@@blendon8 In the end it's all about preference but for me
2018: Great upsets but only two great matches in knock out stage; IG vs KT and RNG vs G2
2019: A lot of stacked iconic teams but the meta was very non-interactive lane. This is the one where doinb auto shoves lane then makes an instant play in a side lane. Rookie was neutralized. Faker was neutralized. 2020 worlds meta offered lane dominant choices to counter act ppl hard shoving lane.
That Chovy joke at the end... I did a legit spit take lmfao
As someone whos been watching SI since they were on Ongamers, (or whatever that site with travis gafford was)... this has been one of the best episodes.
bwipo is the only guest of any show ever that manages to keep talking time to a 30:70 ratio with thorin.
great guest
Favorite episode of SI ever and I've been watching since the beginning. LS segment was straight fire
it's a shame we will never see him on this again probably one of the best players to interview due to how he speaks
man i could listen to bwipo for 24 hours and still pay attention
Me: Is he good looking? Is he smart? Is he funny?
Bwipo: He's good at being himself.
That golden eye joke was straight fire
I couldn’t really understand him what was it?
I wish bwipo had a podcast lol I'd watch that shit every week
possibly one of the best episodes, great insights with Bwipo
Bwipos favorite word is ultimately or what
And his favourite phrase is ‘make fun of’
I think it's what.
Can we just have a show with these three as regulars, please? Bwipo matches the energy so well!
What an incredible episode. Bwipo shows great insight into the game and his career.
RIP
Bwipo doesn't feel like a guest xD, great episode
Bwipo should be a third seat on the show. He's so likeable
not a big fan of Thorin's takes and I don't agree with him on so many things but this episodes was literally one of my favorite in the whole esport talkshows etc.. the questions and the conversation were so on point ! Monte and Thorin literally read our minds addressing the right issues ! it was so satisfying to watch and Bwipo made it even better
No fucking way did i just watch 3 hrs of podcast.
Great show... never stuck around so long. Also bwipo must be the nicest pro to have on these shows :)
"Nephew opinion control" what a fucking banger of a phrase from monte, not sure if /r/NBA has used it before but that is brilliant
These interviews are just the best in the field, I really love your content.
This may sound weird, but I kinda can’t wait until players like Bwipo retire, in a hopes that we get this level of insightful content regularly. Ideally elevating the level of play of the next generation.
so true man. im a mid main and i love watching his streams even tho he plays top. so informative and he gives you another aspect of the game. I wish he streamed earlier
We need many more years of wodebwipoHappy until that happens 😅
In retrospect, my favorite episode was where thorin argued w that guy then stopped telling cs go stories for the rest of the stream. Thanks for upload!
Bwipo is the best guest. Cheers guys!
This was a sick episode! Thank you guys for making these
I love how people think Bwipo is stupid and just ints but when you listen to him - he is insanely knowledgeable and forward thinking when it comes to the game and the teams.
bwipo is such an inspiration, all the best for you. And to everyone
Bwipo is an unbelievably great guest always. he's gotta be one of my absolute favorite LoL personalities (beyond Monte and Thoorin ofc :^)
Thorin has f-in grown on me.. It's true.
Same.
Listened to every episode. Bwipo remains the best guest ever
1:36:20 It's Thorsten_21! Hilarious content creator!
@@Thorsten21 Odin has smiled upon me
Bwipo talking about the positive scrim results with soaz breaks my heart. I can't tell how much i would give for fnatic to have won that series...
I would like to remind ppl of the blessing that we as esports and sports too lovers have in having a GENIUS without exagerating like Thorin hes such a blessing to the esports scene hes a 1 in 50 100 years type of talent hes a true natural in his craft im not talking oh he remembers the dates from 20 years ago from stuff that happened in gamd 3 etc no not even close im talking about the way his mind brain works how he constructs his thoughts and elaborates on those is Mindblowing to me im always left speechless and astounded and the fact that hes a GENIUS and not like introverted WOW thats like damn the jokes he makes if you dont believe me just watch the video he made about why the podcast with locodoco ended it opened my mind to many things we as an audience dont even think about like whos the entertainer how to keep the energy going etc i still need to watch the whole video i was like 20min in? yeah so yeah guys show your apreciation to him cause there wont be a new guy like Thorin in a long time after he decides to retire which i hope is never cause hes the UKS NATIONAL TREASURE LOVE YOU THORRIN( no homo kekw) thanks for doing what you do year after year youre loved by thousands if not millions of ppl. oh and his chemistry with Monte is amazing and i love Monte too but Thorin is an Anomaly hes an alien hes likeCR7 and Messi hes on a whole another level. Thx again for amazing content and the guests Bwipo is amazing the energy that he has is contagious. hes like on high doses of caffeine 24h ahaha love him.
"That was the first time my mother ever came to watch me play."
"Yikes"
Monte and thorin should do a top 10 greatest league matches list
Got to love the time stamps. ty @insightonesports
I dunno why I hear/read that so often, but Faker had NOT his flash on Ruler's Varus flash in 2017 finals. He was 7sec short. It's easily checkable on the VoD: there is a small amount of remaining CD on Faker's flash icon, and furthermore Faker did a (whiffed) flash Q at 34:25 in the game, and Ruler's move is at 39:18.
ok that last scenario that thorin made is genious
Thorstein is the viking guy that makes the skits about Riots design team and so on, that's the channel
Rly good episode love the topic you talked about and the analogies that bwipo came with
Monte Cristo is here, I like.
I haven't watched these nerds for a while but Bwipo is always a great guest.
Bwipo is so eloquent whenever I hear him talk. Nice interview.
"i finished goldeneye before you were born" ngl im'a take that one ducan my guy
I'd watch that LS movie
Upon rewatching it makes it even more of a shame we won't have bwipo back on SI anymore =[
After taking a break from League since early 2016, I thought this was a great Worlds Finals because when I came back in 2018, it was 2 straight years of 3-0 Finals. I actually feel bad that I missed out on most of SKT's glory years.
Honestly, I can understand if people are a bit disappointed with the Finals. As an LCK fan, I'm perfectly happy to see Damwon win, but I would've been fine with Suning winning either after going through the Top 2 teams in their region.
As for the quality of the game, you really can't please everybody. I think it's hard to get a Finals that's clean but not boring and action-packed but not a fiesta.
The best casters in the world for me personally are Tasteless and Artosis. I haven't seen duo nearly as educated about the game they're casting, having insane backstories and when they were on the roll I was shitting bricks.
18:08 LOL. I swear Thorin is actually my spirit animal.
Great episode guys!
Good episode guys
In NA soloQ many people don't care about winning, they just want to get a good score individually, or have fun. Most people that I have talked to in solo Q say that doing well individually is the primary goal, winning is secondary. They would rather have a good KDA and lose than visa versa. This goes along with what Bwipo was saying, where a player will trade kill gold to enemy in exchange for a few minions and xp. Meaning, they would rather do well individually, than deny gold from enemy. They don't care if they are feeding because they get to keep playing and buy items. The goal is not to win, but to have a good experience. I actually played a game where ADC SUP MID JUNGLE all built sunfire aegis on Kat, Jihn, or whoever they wanted and actually said, "we lost but I had fun so I don't care."
shoutout bwipo for dropping contract offers
Montecristo knows nothing about the impact of music on memories... the throwbacks of music in many people's minds brings back those memories of worlds moments
@thooorin nevermind the ship of thesius, more like the brush of trigger from only fools and horses lol
31:26 That IWD payoff was spot on
Bwipo after your career, please consider working in this sector of esports.
Bjergsen owns part of TSM and therefore should not play anywhere else. Meaning that if TSM wants to try another midlaner, that means Bjergsen retiring? (Because Bjergsen is not working for TSM internationally.) If people see him as one of the problems and not as one of the assets things change. There is a reason why top and jungler where the ones showing up at worlds for TSM. Bjerg amd DL are mentally broken at worlds. They are the problem at worlds for TSM. Thats why Bjergsen is forced to either retire or lose is shares.
Bwipo is always a great guest :)
Can Bwipo just be the guest on every league talk show from now on?
I wish people talked more about worlds 2014 was such a fun fiesta sometimes.
For MSI 2015, Faker was subbed in for Easyhoon when they were down 2-1 not 2-0
I like how Thorin is talking about Malice as if he's just high elo on EUW, when he was also top 50 on Korea and played in kr challenger series, no competitive experience though i guess :D
Wasn't he the first foreign player in Korea?
@@kemalcelik5280 yes
but he is an eve otp
@@Brien831 lol
on 40:00 , it was intentional bwipo cuz faker had no flash , he had like 20 sec cd on it or something and ssg knew that- thats why ruler flashed on to him
Idk if LS fails with T1 everyone who said that he is not a top tier coach is proven right. A team with Faker on it with the resources T1 has where theoretically the coach has a good amount of power.
I think LS is a genius on his part of viewing the game but I doubt he will ever be a great head coach. And tbh him as a content creator/caster just feels right with his set of skills.
This is a bad take. You can't judge the effectiveness of a coach based on the results a team obtains. There are a lot of factors that effect it (player form, internal conflict, etc.), none of which can be isolated.
@@vrajbarot on what metric do we judge coaches then?
If a coach has good game knowledge but everywhere he goes, internal conflict follows, at which point is that the fault of the coach?
So if LS succeeds he gets the praise, if he fails we can't judge him. Good so let's just praise him and get it over with now and ignore him for the rest of time.
At which point do we start considering Bwipo the GOAT of Thorin Talkshows?
Love Thorsten @1:37:00
Its hilarious to me that thorin couldn't remember the name thorsten, like it's literally just his name with an extra st thrown in
killa episode
Also just a wild guess but from the way Bwipo is talking in this podcast it sounds like Mithy may not be the head coach of Fnatic next season?
I understand the point Thoorin was making about Hubble Brown being a legendary historian and while I agree with the overall premise of the point, he’s definitely not the only guy he can adequately contextualise different era’s of basketball, and to the point a lot of those older guys including Hubble, don’t particularly understand the full context of the analytic Era,
That’s why you have horrible casters like Reggie Miller and Chris Webber trying to make stupid cheap shot remarks at “nerds” about analytics when a guy dunks it saying things like; “take that analytics he says no to the 3 and flushes it home”....
When in reality no analytic ever in basketball has said a wide open 3 from Kawhi Leonard is better than an open Dunk.
Hubbie is a legend yes, but there are plenty of guys that are really smart basketball minds now creating content,
I mean a lot of NBA players have podcasts now too.
21:30 they did show that though
Wide Bwipo!!! is my favorite meme he is so cool
It's time to dual!
I think 2021 summer season, Bjerg is gonna come back as mid when TSM realizes that they might not make worlds.
Pls don't xD I gona die off laughter when tsm gets 2 owners who take control when something goes wrong xD
@@bestboyfreddy7105 🤣😂
Maybe LS goes to T1, maybe not. But there is no way T1 singed LS without asking Faker if he was okay with this coach.
yeah same that was what ive been thinkin. i mean hes well known for his takes and his fixed personality. but im kinda worried for ls beacuse of how fans can be
Every player actually gave their opinion on LS signing according to the translation. But yeah Faker is the most heavy voice in the team
W
20:21 38:40 48:28 1:18:20 1:34:33 2:00:32 2:04:07 2:19:47
Montecristo is still alive? More surprising than Suning's performance.
You can't compare KDA songs to Rise though, they aren't equivalents, Take Over is this year's worlds song and equivalent to Rise or Warriors. I won't argue it's better than Rise but that's the one to compare it to. The KDA songs are supposed to be a bonus thing and it's just taken the spotlight.
Becasue weebs, " look its ahri dancing "
I only really ever liked 2013 opening with Wes Boland
I think Monty can take it but - hell he got interrupted by Thorin on a seconds basis. Let him tell one story for christ sake. ;) It's not like he is boring and the situation needs to be saved. In this case i think Thorin just enjoyed himself in this episode and that makes it somewhat alright. Beside that - less interrupting, more sharing.
The only thing about samira is that the windwall of yasuo is 360°
1:36:05 the content creator is Thorsten, his video on champ design are greaaaat
He literally told us he was gonna slaughter people with his Riven
Malding pretty hard about the opening ceremony. Hahaha.
Hey guys,
Any chance of doing any sort of "CSGO for noobs" on Flashpoint? I am a LoL player and would love to get more into CSGO and understand the game! It's easy to grasp on the surface but quite hard to get the tactics etc... Would be a great chance to get new viewers as well!
Anyone knows what viking guy that does skits that thooorin is talking about at 1:36:00 ish
Thorsten_21
@@nerd549 thanks 🙈
As a person who gets hyped each year for worlds this was the only year I didn't enjoy. I don't know if it's the meta restricting creative play or just Damwon being the clear favorite after TES and JD gaming looked bad. The group stage games were better than the semi finals. Odly enough the best content was G2 vs Suning after Suning wasn't able to close out games and the TSM memes.
SOFM was the problem? wait what?
Even Bwipo was confused and didn't agree at all with the statement, every professional player said the opposite. That SOFM was a damn beast. DWG was simply better. So you want to defend personal style in teams, but then if a guy does Nidalee GL and have a reason for it, you disregard him?
The man got to the Worlds like that, far from being a bad carry player.
SofM did grief pretty hard in a few fights
To be honest, I'm surprised people have some of these "nephew takes" they went over. I don't really know anyone who thinks JackeyLove has surpassed Uzi for instance. Maybe that's for the best.
Jackeylove hype trained in S9 summer when he finally did carry the IG lineup and then everyone went full blown delusional by thinking he was the best ADC ever. People forgot even DL/Corejj were spanking jackeylove 2v2 at worlds. If it ain't a kaisa/xayah meta he's def not as great.
I saw a lot of them. It was honestly pretty tilting trying to explain why jackeylove even if he won this year had a lot to prove.
I mean, there's people saying Broxah is a top jungler because he made world finals... nobody looks at the circumstances
People are forgetting that IG was already pretty insane and they just needed an ADC that has two hands and eyes and it sort of helped that Jackey is still better than many, but any low resource ADC would have fit that team and the topside would still be overbearing
Nobody ever gonna surpass UZI in the adc role no matter how many titles they will won
39:53 Faker had no flash on that play
What Bwipo says about hoping Faker doesn't flash shows poor understanding. Faker didn't have flash it was about to come off cooldown, that is why they made the play in the first place.
Totally agree on this worlds being bad. I actually stopped watching after FNC/TES quarter because teams made lackluster decisions ingame. It was a pain to watch. You'd have thought they'd have stepped up their games, but nope.
Looking forward to this =)
BWIPO CAT OP 1:22:32
Recency bias is a thing that exists so I can understand how people thing the newest thing is the best thing. But you have to remember recency bias and temper yourself. When talking about who the best top laner of all time is, remember there was a time where MaRin and smeb where the best top laners of all time. Doesn't look good now to say MaRin or smeb is the best top of all time and saying someone playing now is the best of all time might look equally silly in a few years.