Uber vs Lyft | Who PAYS MORE With Upfront Fares??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2022
- Both Uber and Lyft have rolled out their upfront fares and details in several markets across the US and should be in most markets very soon. With upfront fares and upfront pay getting away from time and distance pay, the question comes down to who is paying drivers more, Uber or Lyft? Join RSG contributor Joe as he breaks down his rides.
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What have you been seeing? Is Uber or Lyft paying you more overall? Let us know 👇
how does a nine day old comment end up in a video posted 32 minutes ago??
Uber pays more in my market
On January 3rd, 2023 the fuel surcharge goes away.
Uber is always better for me Lyft is a joke
I agree with what's stated here. Uber's UFP is definitely higher than Lyft's and overall I like Uber's UFP model better than Lyft's anyway. Plus for me, the demand is much higher with Uber as opposed to Lyft, so I plan to continue driving for Uber. I will definitely be a little more careful once we get the next snowstorm here in southeast Michigan. :)
After seven years driving for both I’ve never seen so much corporate greed! There taking almost 50% ! Contact your local representative immediately this must stop.
True. They got greedy, abusive and exploitative. I also have about 6 years of driving and noticed they got evil.
We need to boycott
Facts. I got 20.00 for a long distance ride they charged her 50 for. Drove 1.5 hours for 30. Thank God he gave a 15.00 tip. They talk about bonuses but lower the cost of the rides when they do. Extra 2.00 my behind. Games.
Lyft promos and bonuses are designed to get you to turn off the Uber app. I only make the three ride streaks when I'm over my daily target. Other than that I run both apps and I don't care about the larger bonuses or blue, gold, diamond B.S. in either app. Dolla dolla bills yo! The only status I care about is green.
Uber definitely pays better.
In my market after Nov 1, they both cut pay 40% for me. I live in a large urban area, so my rides are back to back on either platform. All I do is short rides, and lyft pays better for those rides in my market even with the fuel surcharge gone. In the end both are out to screw drivers. Different platforms, same objective.
The prices of everything went up including Uber/Lyft rides but the pay rates for drivers went down by roughly 10%. On average a full time driver is losing $50 a day under the new pricing model. To make up for the pay cut drivers must drive back to back for the full 12 hours to make money which puts drivers at a greater risk of ruining their health and depreciate the vehicle faster. Depreciation and repairs and maintenance are big hidden costs Uber/ Lyft do not include in drivers pay.
@@frankelse745 I took your comment very seriously, in order to make money it’s 12 hours all the time. Throw in mental gymnastics 🤸♀️ to make the money. Exhausting.
That trip radar needs to go.
Trip radar shows you how selfish the drivers are when they show better payouts on trip radar.They try to hog all of them Their are other drivers trying to make money too
Lyft is a joke in my market.
And your market is?
@@muletowndumpstersdeez nuts
How has my earning been? With GRYFT its been Horseshite. Since Nov I can not make more than $8 an hour. UFP should stand for Upfront Penetration...
pro tips: look before taking a trip. I am on the verge of quitting uber, so I pick only the good trips only. some of the other rides programed to screw driver hard
Although I no longer drive, I still use services. According to drivers Uber's payout is more.
I am in georgia. Forsyth. When i have both on, my rates to the airport can go as high as $45 on Uber. For Lyft in a comparable area the highest ive seen is $36. So, i no longer use lyft. Plain and clear simple.
What good is upfront pricing if lyft keep auto changing the ride to a cheaper ride you didn’t agree to.
you drinking beer over there? just accept & move on
Ur right!
Upfront fare is good. 75% of the total fare paid is fair. I shouldn’t have to ask the passengers what they’re paying to see if I’m being screwed. Which I am. As a independent contractor, I should have a say in what I choose for my fee.
milk it find the next stage of your life and milk that. Find the next stage of your life buy some cows milk those. Have fun. 🎉
I accepted a long ride in Las Vegas the other day that said it would pay $21.00, or so I thought. Apparently I had misread the fare. I assume it was $210.00 and not the $21.00 I thought I had seen. Passenger immediately called and told me the trip was to Long Beach, CA. I told him I had to be at work in three hours, so I would not be taking him. My question is, how can anyone drive 9-10 hours and a total of 560-580 miles for $210? I would even not do it for $500 unless I was really broke. Admittedly, I HATE driving in California. Bunch of lunatics.
500miles for $210? I would for $1000. $1 per mile min.
@@stevecurrier2462 That 560-580 miles was the round trip mileage. I cannot pick up a ride on the way back to Las Vegas so to me, the trip is worth at least $600.
I live in California, and what happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas.
The thing is they collected $600. They could’ve offered you at least $400 but they think you only deserve to be paid peanuts.
Yeah, long distance trips need to pay the deadhead back, otherwise there needs to be a way to filter those out of our acceptance rates.
i have found that with Up Front pricing i went from having closer to 90-95% AR on uber to having closer to 60% after the first few weeks of driving on uber with the UFP it finally figured out what i was willing to take as my low end even on longer trips and my AR has gone back up to closer to 85% now every once in a while i get some garbage back to back and i just turn my app off and drive to where i want to be and just restart my stuff. Also at the start of UFP i noticed they started giving me less than 50cents a mile on most rides now that the algo has adjusted a bit more i am mainly seeing 90 cents to 1.50 a mile depending on how far it is. On longer trips im averaging 1.20-1.30 a mile with no bonuses which is slightly ahead of what the rate card was here in the SLC area beforehand. Overall i think that uber has been true to what they were saying with UFP being a good thing overall but i think the folks who were just accepting everything regardless of price were fucking it for the rest of us and the folks who were paying attention to stuff and started dropping our AR alot more have been rewarded with better fairs to keep us driving and accepting more rides.
Perfectly said !!
Hi I've noticed a higher payout with Uber
The only reason I ever consider driving for Lyft is promotions. And they have to be promotions with small ride count because I cannot invest the time it takes to do 50 60 70 rides on Lyft and just lose out all that money on those rides that I'd be making if I was doing Uber. So unless Uber is just completely dead, which has been happening because a lot of out of town drivers have hit my market, I would never switch lift on unless their promotion was killer.
This has changed in just the last week. Uber cut my base rate by 30%. I now make the same on both platforms.
Lyft platforms only can hustle on the promotion or streaks bonus other than this the greedy go out of business not worse a penny for drivers. Uber pay more and have much better service and customer support . Lyft all the way sucks in every level
They are BOTH competing to see who can pay you less than 7$ per ride. I’m in Vegas. All the drivers who “Took the Tesla” are accepting ALL THE 💩 RIDES” to pay their weekly premium. The more Tesla’s you see, The more ride rates Will go down in you’re market. 💡
Someone must be down bad to accept a hand out from these greedy rideshare companies.
Depends where you are, in the smaller markets, Uber pays almost twice what Lyft pays because of surges rates. Lyft is usually one sma small area. Uber is allover the place.
Thanks brother
I drive uber today I was doing other app business, and I was upset because rides was $3.63 , $4.65 and the long one to the airport $10 this is very sad
Thanks for posting the video. Very informative. Question for you regarding your comment "$1 per on trip distance". Does that include the miles to pickup or from pickup to destination? Thanks!
Pickup to destination :)
~Joe
Fuck $1/mile...Go for $1/min not miles. Once the algo starts giving you those, then push it out to try to get $1/min to cover both the pickup and the ride (much easier to achieve on Uber). There is way too much traffic in my city to accept rides based per mile.
As far as which is better in my market, its Uber hands down even without driver incentives because Lyft has used UFP to cut our rates across the board and they are using surge to make up the difference. An airport run used to pay $25 on Lyft now that same ride $13 with no surge, while Uber is still paying $25+.
You should have received a notice a week to two weeks ago, they are stopping the. 55 cents in January 2023.
There has been no fuel surcharge for several months over where I am also Uber does not pay where I am for your distance to get to your passenger Uber is only paying you for the distance covered with your passenger in your vehicle
Is there upfront pricing in Seattle?
Uber pays slightly more.
My lyft acceptance rate is at 1% and Uber at 46%. I was 90% on both a few months ago.. f u lyft
I live in Kansas and we do not have upfront pricing in my city yet on Uber rides (as a driver).
It only shows like 5 mins, 20 mins, etc before you accept it.
And to be able to keep that feature you have to keep an 85% acceptance rate or higher!
Without it you don't know how long far you will be taking the rider, until after you pick them up!
I'm thinking about switching to Lyft because I think it has upfront pricing here.
Dec 14, 2023, and Lansing, Mi still doesn't have upfront pricing from Uber
No dought only Uber still care drivers .
U work lyft to make lyft rich .
They pay $20 per hour Evan it’s super busy .
😊
Uber is taking 45% of the total fare. Drivers are getting screwed
Uber and lyft are both almost at the exact upfront pay but with lyft they automatically makes an adjustment on your long trip and uber doesn’t. Plus uber cuts your tips and lyft doesn’t. I feel that lyft has a better extractor when it comes to pay the drivers, because i make good money with lyft and my earnings are more clear, i can see my earnings.
Lyft is paying way less 2023 I’m giving up soon
Thank you conveying your comparison of who pays better. I know I am nuts for staying with Lyft, but I am that unusual 🐜 that continues to stay with Lyft no matter what. I am going to sink with the ship and jump in another raft boat call Doordash. I am tired of putting people in my car that I don't know and can possibly hurt me. But as I said everyone hound on Lyft when they were paying good got what they needed and jumping to Uber. That's maybe why they both have gotten greedy cause they see the trend of what drivers are doing in these channels. Good driving experience is priceless but knowledge is bliss when they know what drivers is doing. Have a prosper New Year all drivers.
Lyft is a joke silmular to public transportation
so what you are saying is that I can take this offers only is busy time and acceptance rate is doesn't matter
This is for the riders I GOT YOUR ADDRESS SIT BACK AND SHUT UP enjoy the ride,that’ll i have today
The question is, who pays less?
Both😊
Nice video, i drive for lyft, it comes out to $25 or so a hour, u factor in dead time, less than $18 a hour, minus gas and wear n tear, forget it, i denied two long rides to South side, the ride still came up, before as a taxi driver in was making over $2.0 a mile plus .20 a minute and 95 percent tips,then after my shift i turn on lyft. Full time ridehare is unhealthy .
Lyft will either go bankrupt or have to be taken over. Lyft has been trying to compete with Uber by giving cheaper rides rather than focusing on brand promotion. Lyft has been trying to compete with Uber by giving cheaper rides than Uber by gouging driver pay. Lyft has always paid less than Uber. It's a head scratcher for me why drivers even bother with Lyft. Not only do drivers make more with Lyft, they are far busier. Lyft is done done done done.
The thing is customers try to use Lyft because they think that Lyft pays the driver more of what they are charged. thats a selling point for most customers but it doesn’t seem that way actually
The customer could care less what the driver makes all they care is a cheap ride if they really truly cared about drivers we would receive tips on every ride like food delivery I’m not doing this for charity
Remember when Uber and Lyft promised us that with " Upfront slicing pay will remain about the same"?
Ya , my pay went from $1.55 per mile to the latest Uber offer of $0.30 per mile. Lyft has been somewhat better. Uber X to EX Uber
Your 100/200 FIRST Lyft rides do NOT compare to your LAST 100/200 rides because you get better rides and offers from Uber once you have a certain amount of rides under your belt!!!!!
Ture ture I do the same as you if everyone go just do that simple two things you and I done watch the change come onn world drivers
Riders on uber tips, I don't get tips on lift I don't think they actually give me my tips
Some drive the perfect cars for UBERLYFT ESG compliance and need $50 an hour to even think about giving any rides.
When 5 short rides per hour (4 really) at best are doable in my market and 75% of Uber UFP pings are for $6… we can do kg math and determine I’m not earning and people aren’t getting where they need to go in my car.
I’ll take $1 per mile in the burbs when it’s slow and $1 per minute in the city otherwise it’s a net loss I’m not going to chase.
Lyft stays set on premium only and those have been scarce since the move to UFP.
More action tonight but I may be hanging it up again next week.
Up don't pricing doesn't help me when Lyft wants me to go 13 .miles to pick up someone and drive them 13 miles for $13.
Who tips more based on your experience?
My friend I love how simple and direct to your story explaining everything to detail, I would love to see more on this topic like how much can you make in a week of work on both platforms now in 2023 thanks be safe out there
Right now Uber has a promotion for Diamond status drivers of $475 but still they could atleast bring back the after 50 trips you get a $1,000 something after 50 trips but won't be doing either once my taxes return really not worth it anymore if you ask me especially with the high cost of living increasing by the year!
Just do 75$ sleep repeat 3 times a day
You’ll make 225 a day 1500+ a week 6k a month. Stop worrying about $/mile.
Times are
4-8am
Noon-4pm
8-midnight
Well I don’t know where you work but in Miami worst. My Uber acceptance rate 14% now, Lyft less than 50 ((( These gig apps really abuse the drivers (((
$1 per mile means you are earning $0.28 per mile after all expenses including the cost of owning that car. A minimum wage job in California will earn you far more than what you are making with Uber/Lyft.
Uber drivers here in Montreal Canada are working for free. Gas prices are to much high, and Uber continues to paye rides like 5 years in the past 😢. 3$-4$, this is not normal. I'm better to stay at home with Netflix 😔
We need to boycott both.
There are very rarely any bonuses or promotions in my area so the UFP for Lyft has been an abysmal pay cut. And no one uses Uber here. Lately I get tons of pings for ridiculous long haul rides that pay crap. Two hour rides for $78.
Does your $1 per mile include your miles to pick up the customer for Lyft?
I drive Uber, I’m not feeling it. I’m in Cali. They take almost 50% and play too many games. If you rent from them, forget. You’re wearing yourself out to pay for the rental car before you make any money. They really scam you on long rides. Maybe I just don’t have a good strategy. Idk. I’m not seeing the benefit. Prop 22 is a joke.
Uber is busy.Lots of rides but rates are getting lower and bonus are only offerred for times they know i dont regularly drive. After driving for almost 2 years part time, i get no bonus offers that i can actually use because i have another job at those times. Uber knows this. Very dissappointing. Also, theyve raised their percentage of what they keep to 19.3% which is extremely high in this economy. Theyre not taking into consideration gas, car repairs, maintanance, car washes, and wait time pay is ridicululous.
And I’ll add, I needed a car. So Uber met a need. But if I have to drive 10 hrs a day I don’t get to do anything for myself anyway. I may give it another month. Idk. Over it.
Lyft/Uber looks at drivers like how Chinese restaurant owners look at a Mexican dishwasher. Why should they pay you more money when they can find someone to do the same job for less. That is why Lyft/Uber continue to deduct more percentages% from drivers fare$$ because other drivers will accept the rides for less. Example, Lyft/Uber know that is you won’t accept a ride for $6 the next driver will, so why would they want to pay more, smart business strategy. The way that Lyft/Uber will take less percentage$ from drivers fares is that all drivers across the nation go on a 3/4 strike, that will cripple and hurt Lyft/Uber’s pocket book$$$$. Because they know without the drivers their company will go bankrupt and the only way to get drivers is not take too much percentage from their fare$$. Be smart drivers together you stand, divided you will be taken advantage of by big billionaire corporation.
1 dollar per mile is gonna be only during surge times
Lyft gets too many Shenanigans in my area...Prefer Uber
I never got paid for picking up miles and and I got fired for discrimination to my allergy to animals
Uber fuel surcharge ends Tuesday in my market.
I don't run standard Lyft, only XL and Lux. Minimum ride is $3 versus $4.34 for standard Uber ride. Most of my Lyft rides these days are standard ones where the customer was willing to pay more to get faster pickup. I get paid the XL rates but no $ for pickup distance and almost always a short ride. I don't accept many. I didn't even bother turning the Lyft app on last week. I'm trying to help WRIDZ get off the ground here so easier not to waste my time looking at crap Lyft offers me.
There's this new service called Hum, currently only running in Phoenix Arizona, but they are looking to expand. You can pre-register and recommend your city as a spot for them to operate on their website
The fuel surcharge is going away right after the first of the year. 🤷🏽♀️
But yes I have seen that Uber is higher on UFP they are both lower overall with any ride that’s not the minimum or near to. (Baltimore here for reference point)
Lyft doesnt have price variance while Uber does. Lyft Basic rides will never pay as much as Uber X rides.
To all drivers who drive on multiple platforms....THANK YOU, keep it up, you make me more money every day. Thinking you are the hustler, when you are getting hustled...supply and demand. One platform to rule them all!!!! go take your lyft ride causing a surge by dropping off Uber. Thank you again! Be the cheap ride!
Bro, if you think that's the way it really works, more power to you. But while you're waiting for that next Uber surge, I'll be making money in between the cracks on Lyft. I'm not waiting 10 to 15 minutes for the next Uber ride, if Lyft comes along in the next three, and it's worth my time, that's the ride I'm taking.
@@yragcom1 dual platforms is the way to go!!!
it works that way in my market (300k)...Anytime you are available, you are supply. The less you are available the less supply Uber/Lyft has. anytime you are on a platform you decrease the chance for surge. Although your way balances it out by creating a counter surge it is also why drivers are not making good money on trips(accepting any trip on any platform just because it comes). I would rather wait 15 minutes for a good trip then 5 seconds for a shitty one. minimum trip is 4.15$ here 9 minute up drive to a 7 minute trip with a four minute wait...ping me that all day and it will never be taken. when I get a few request/xls in the morning, I know its going to surge because the rider got on the other platform and stole a driver for cheaper.
@@Keyneron I have criteria for both platforms. I don't take either drive, if it's not worth my time. No way I drive 9 minutes to pick up a $7 ride. I reject rides all day long, on both platforms. But, if Uber wants to lag and not give me a good ride for 20 minutes, I'm not going to sit around like a puppy dog and wait for Uber to give me something, if Lyft is going to give me something worth my time in the meanwhile. That's probably one of the reasons I make up to $5 more per hour then the average driver, according to Solo, anyway.
@@Keyneron if you are claiming you make $300k per year driving Uber/Lyft. I am claiming you are a liar!
Never accept lyft for long rides. They paid me $56 for Cambridge to yyz 88 km. And i checked online they are charging more than $100 to riders…
Lyft is closing , its reaching a tipping point
Lyft sucks.. Uber is 💯 better
Active lyft drivers scapegoat
They attract new and Uber drivers instead take caring regular drivers .
Temporary drivers get promotions they come take that and back to Uber .
But regular lyft drivers u won’t get sh--t
Of course uber pays more
This guy drives during a snow storm. What a fool
@johnlegend "Get Lyfted" 🤔