The professional qualifications behind your guys analysis makes your channel far more insightful and interesting than any others. Thank you for sharing
Yes! I think Jim Can’t Swim was just a couple of criminology students that had a falling out with each other and threw a good thing down the trash. I appreciate the credentials on this EWU channel.
Will you guys do one where someone is being falsely accused? You always say "an innocent person wouldn't do this" so I want to actually see how an innocent person would react
Would be interesting indeed! Think most observations on here are pretty accurate. Lot of doubt about the arm gestures though. i feel like throwing your arms up like 'what?!' while being accused would be pretty common for anyone. Guilty or not
I feel like one of the hardest parts about being a cop is pretending to like someone you want to throttle for doing a crime you find absolutely disgusting.
I know it's a mood killer, but when your friend is clearly blacked out drunk and belligerent do NOT leave her alone in a random place! You can be mad at her tomorrow or end the friendship, but you don't leave people you care about as prey for these sick predators.
By the time you've convinced a belligerent drunk to do something, it IS tomorrow. But if you're a sucker for abuse, go for it. When it becomes a nightly chore, it gets less appealing. (insert obligatory caveats)
@@amarissimus29 They left her without transportation and without her phone! If you feel this way about a person and you know their history or don't have patience, you shouldn't have even picked them up from their house!
That’s because it is straight up content without the frills. No cut scene, music, dramatic re enactments that are laughable.. straight up content with some narration is all we want.
I mean the Reid technique is total nonsense and BS, as nonsense as lie detectors, just like being able to lie to suspects etc its just a blunt weapon haha not some great psychological process
Random but I noticed on a lot of the Netflix documentary's people talk like they're saying a question. "She was really sweet? She loved everyone?" It's so odd and honestly really annoying. "We found DNA that didn't belong to her? That made us question? " like the same tone and same question at the end. So odd
@@DannySebaharhalfway thru the interview reading comments this made me laugh they said we have fluid and made a lie to cover the rape his own lying demon tricked him into confessing to torment his soul more in prison. truly evil ppl don’t care what anyone thinks just ask for a lawyer truly smart ppl don’t care what anyone thinks just ask for a lawyer ppl who care what ppl think of them never stop talking.
IDK about the rest of you, but I find it disturbing how the police seems to actively try to trick the suspect into waiving their 5th amendment rights. There's always a part in these videos where the narrator says "now the police does this and that so the suspect doesn't ask for a lawyer", as if the Constitution is some nuisance and the police skirts around to follow the letter of it instead of respecting its spirit. If and actual criminal confesses because of it that's good, but I think there's a reason why we have those rights to begin with. It's a fact that plenty of innocent people go to prison (provably innocent, as in people who are later proven innocent), and I have a feeling this police tactic has a lot to do with it
@@exantiuse497 to an extent you're right, but the majority of false imprisonment is negligence with evidence, scummy attorneys, and racism/sexism :// I think out of everything the detectives do, skirting around the 5th amendment is within their right. They say clear as day that at any point the suspect can stop and call an attorney, sometimes they say it multiple times and have the suspect repeat it back to them. It's just another tactic imo
I’d ask why he didn’t ask for a lawyer, but since he’s a narcissist it makes perfect sense that he’d believe he could talk himself out of anything. A perfect way to demonstrate how brilliant he is, being able to outsmart the police.
Seriously, anything other then 'I invoke the fifth' is just going to dig yourself into a deep hole. I remember reading an article years ago that most cases are solved by confessions and if you don't say anything your odds of winning/ not getting charged skyrocket.
Chelsea was my high school girlfriend's best friend, and I got to know her a little bit. She was so kind and had a bright future ahead of her. There was a time period where some believed her killer would not be caught. I'm glad he was brought to justice. Rest in peace, Chelsea. You deserved better.
Simple brain trickery, when you're making eye contact and pretending to care about bullshit stories as if they're true and/or relevant anything is possible.
This applies to both girls and guys ... Don't leave a friend behind at a party or a club or a night out. No matter how obnoxious and insistent your friend is, don't leave em ... And have that conversation before you go out, so it's not a surprise if/when it happens.
I agree. I felt so bad for Chelsea , but I also kind of hold the party security responsible as well. This party was huge , an annual event with over 1000 people in attendance. The guy who held the party was somewhat smug about the fact Chelsea went missing. I think he seen Daniel and kept his mouth shut. He was only worried about his reputation, and the fact his so called party security was nothing more than a farce.
It’s true but I used to have a habit of going out to bars/parties and getting drunk and not wanting to leave… I’m a dude and typically other dudes will only ask a few times before they just leave you… but leaving a drunk girl behind somewhere is an absolute no no because drunk girls are a target for losers and scumbags… I used to live in a party house when I got out of highschool and more than once I had to intervene and stop some guy who was hanging around and circling a visibly drunk girl like a vulture…. granted I don’t think the guy wanted to brutally murder the girl… I know what he wanted to do but we never let that kind of stuff go down in our house and If a group of girls came over and one of them got too drunk I would make sure they take her with them when they leave lol.
@@TingTingalingy For sure. Just a message to anyone out there not to assume drunk guys are safe and to not leave them walk home alone. In my area, guys get drunk far more often than girls and they're a lot more likely to be alone.
“I’ve ruined my life, too by doing this.” “Not worried about that” I love how the detective doesn’t hold back now that he has enough evidence to put this bastard away for life
I don't know any cops, but i imagine that they must absolutely hate having to read people their maranda rights. "If you talk to us we can use anything you say against you. Would you like to talk to us?"
I ditched my safe ride home to call a drunken stranger's mother, and I stayed with that girl until her mother came and picked her up! Never leave vulnerable people behind!
Fr bro, the fact that they are talking about a woman he KILLED, and he has the guts to smirk and say something was 'f**king hilarious' makes me really impressed that the cops kept their cool.
@@Nonybusinessxxxxxx weird to call out rap music specifically as if women have been talked about any differently in other genres, or in any other media for that matter. Misogyny can be found everywhere in our media, it's what happens when you live in a patriarchal society.
Daniel's version of being honest: "I started getting a little tipsy." "I don't like to get drunk." "I won't lie. I drove drunk." "I don't get drunk." "I was wasted."
Protip: No matter if you’re guilty or innocent, if the cops start bringing up a dead girl, it’s probably a good idea to say: “I’d like to help as much as possible, but given the seriousness of the matter, I’d like to speak with an attorney!”
I totally agree; but, it was his OWN DECISION to waive his rights to have an attorney and then to go ahead with the interview/interrogation. The detective told him when he mentioned about maybe wanting a lawyer that they would have to stop talking; but, he said that he was going to waive his rights for an attorney being present and continue talking to them; so that part was absolutely no one's fault but his own.
I don't think they would have ever had enough on him to take him to court for murder. He gave them everything they needed. I'm glad he did but it's hard to watch as well
I’m from this area and worked with the initial suspect at a steel plant. If you look up the sketch they initially put out, it was a dude with thick rimmed glasses and 2010’s sweeping bangs. Everyone was CERTAIN that he had something to do with it. I was shocked when they announced this guy had been found guilty. I hope the original suspect is doing well now. I can’t imagine all the trouble that caused him.
Narcissists have NO ego. This is the reason why they pretend to have a huge one. Dont get this messed up like many people do. Someone who has a huge ego CANNOT be as evil as narcissists are.
@@jankowalski9416 nobody was speaking abt ego in the Freudian sense. Ego meaning sense of self and self importance. Everything narcs do is in service to that egotism
@@hazard3483 on what exactly? Do you disagree and this is why you are asking? You would have to ask a specific question. I dont know what you are looking for when asking me to "elaborate".
@@hazard3483 Thats what my first post was all about. People constantly confuse it when i read the internet. Even some psychologists repeat this bollocks. Narcissist has no ego. He has no sense of self importance in this world. He has no identity at all... Someone with a big ego would have a very specified identity, quite a narrow one in a good sense. Also quite closed boundaries whereas a narcissist does not have any personal boundaries. You can approach him and insult him or spit in his face on the street and.... you will see no reaction. He doesnt have dignity, he doesnt feel offened (although he feels humilliated). Someone with big ego today, also had many friends in the past, there were many events that created memories. A narcissist? There were no event in his childhood, he had no friends (0 exactly). He was abused entire childhood by his narcissistic parents and bullied by his peers. He was completely isolated. This is how you create a narcissist. To be more specific , THE ONLY reason that made someone a narcissist is isolation. There is no other reason for developing this disorder. No general abuse can make you a narcissist. No mental, no verbal, no sexual. ONLY lack of contacts with people from an early age. I will quote one of the psychologist : "an ego does not develop in a vacuum". That just proves that what i write is correct. You cannot develop without interaction with other people... Narcissism is not just another disorder, it is not even another personality disorder. It is a development disorder in a way. You are stuck in a limbo, without an identity. This is also the reason this disorder is 100% permanent. No there is no cure and there will be none even in 1000 years. Once you are a narcissist, thats is. Game over. None of us have a time machine. Last thing that i wouldto repeat-someone that has a really big ego IS NOT capable of doing really evil things. Only those without an ego or with a "broken ego" are. Narcissist has no ego, psychopath has no ego. Borderlines have "broken ego" but they are not too far gone, not in a limbo. They can recover. Any other things that you would like to discuss?
Also, every time you say something like “this is a sign of deception” etc, I’m sat here thinking damn this is just how I communicate with people in every day life, if I’m ever suspected of something I didn’t do I’m probably screwed 😂
They don't rely on this too much. No matter what they says. You usually can't tell someone is lying unless you know that person very well, or unless what they says is opposite to factual information. It's like lie detectors.
They say multiple times, it's not one single thing. It's multiple different things they do in a time frame. They point it out because it shows how much they do it.
You'd think that a man currently in jail and who went through the justice system many many times would think to ask for his lawyer... Narcissism at its best
More like sociopathy or psychopathy, I reckon, although he could be diagnosed with both for sure. A severe malignant narcissist is almost indistinguishable from a psychopath anyway.
The common theme seems to be that most of these guys are ridiculously dumb or naive, because even if you were going to "participate" in an interview, they always inevitably insinuate that you are the guilty party. It makes no sense that someone who has gone through the system multiple times would agree to an interrogation without an attorney. Its basic self preservation.
Can i hear you say “psychopath…?” Lol obviously that’s what he is.. I just started watching but I know that’s about to piss me off. Hopefully a kid isn’t hvrt🤦🏾♀️
That's a recurrent theme. There's a case of a Canadian skater ice skater who had attempted to have both of her parents killed, I think one survived and throughout the questioning she kept saying but what happens to me? The cops did an exceptional job it was a fake home invasion and they said the satellites could see through her house and saw that she was involved how stupid can you be.
Her body was discovered by complete accident. She could've stayed there forever and this guy would be living his life with no consequences. And if this girl was found by accident, what if he killed other girls and left them where no one can find them? He talks about women in such disgraceful way, I'd bet she's not the only one.
I think a big reason why he was caught was because other women came forward, one specifically for a really violent rape in the back of his truck. he totally has zero respect for women, and i don't know if he murdered anyone before, but he's definitely hurt them before, and has the capacity for doing it
Yeah the thing that is wrong with them is they are fucking terrible friends and I hope her mother never lets them forget it. There have been multiple times where I have had to babysit young women who are drunk out of their minds and whose friends ditched them. I initially met my best friend when we were both 20 years old, she had gone with some friends to her first ever "adult" party. They got her drunk, and then ditched her to go fuck their boyfriends, one of them drove behind a liquor store to do it. She was 20 years old, had never been drunk before, just wanted to enjoy being an adult and have a good time. Her friends had her do shots of tequila and then ditched her.
"Just by telling you this," "I've lost everything." No, you still have your life. It may be spent behind bars, but you still have a beating heart and breathe in your lungs. Chelsea is the one whom lost everything. Her mother lost a dear child, something that can never be replaced. Your mother can still see you, hear your voice, read your letters. Chelsea's mother will never have any of that, ever again. Sad, very sad.
its in almost every one of these videos that the killers only concern is the inconvience or impact of their actions will have on their own live, never any remorse for the victim or family. thats why i have so little faith in rehabilitation, they are never going to care how their actions impact the world around them, only if they suffer in prison will they get a taste of the receiving end
I can't express how much I appreciate the subtitles!! Transcripting everything and then editing it in is a lot of work but it sets you far ahead from other channels alike. Keep it up!
Indeed. I often skip many of these interrogation videos because it's simply to shitty quality to hear everything they're talking about properly.. So huge kudos for the subtitles!
I understand that ultimately the actual murderer is at fault. But what kind of people abandon their drunken friend without her phone or belongings or even a way home?
Unfortunately too many people, I've seen it far too many times and usually it's drunk women being abandoned by their friends more so than it is men. The sad truth is that a drunk guy being abandoned by his friends can usually turn into a funny story about his story of survival but when a drunk woman gets abandoned it can quickly turn into a horror story for them.
@@sb6675 I don't deny that for one second, I myself have been jumped for no reason in the past and other occasions have had to fight to defend myself and others. The point I was trying to make is that guys can generally survive a night of being drunk and alone in the city due to us being a less appealing target. How many times have you seen a one or two men all over a drunk female in the street, harassing them or trying to get them into a car or taxi? Then compare that to how times you have seen those roles reversed...That's the difference.
@@perseus9428 people have been getting drunk and viewing it as an acceptable and occasional side effect for a long time. I'm guessing you're above the age of 50 or so, and think society is objectively getting worse and suffering a moral decline. That would not be viewed as a valid excuse in the current day. And people not giving it a like is not an indication of anything. All it indicates is that people didn't stop to click. It's not that deep.
Right? FU dude you are a murderer who will die in jail. I get that he would try to lie but to say less than complementary things about the , beautiful by the way, young woman you raped and murdered is a true testimony to the fact that he's a scumbag. I know why they did it by I hate that the interrogators went with the , 'she was promiscuous', tactic. It's just a sad case.
Yes, the police are not your friend. They aren’t on your side. They won’t help you. No matter how friendly and sympathetic they seem they only want a confession. Tell them nothing, not one thing. I can’t believe how much people talk when interrogated with no lawyer. Must be crazy.
The fact that her friends left her alone at the party with no phone or no way home is beyond me. I could never forgive myself if I was one of her friends who left, this whole case is so sad wow.
She was a stupid woman that wanted to stay and party. Her friends couldn’t get her to leave. You can’t fix stupid. She is not a little child. He is the one they think killed her. But, you can’t fix stupid. Thus when she stumbled on to a killer she was killed. Stop acting like your friends can or should fix stupid.
You can’t make a person leave… the friend came back to give her her stuff and she was bo where to be found partying.. they asked her several times she refused and was a grown woman. It’s sad how it turned out but it’s not their fault. I know they feel some guilt but they couldn’t get flack for this
As pointed out in the video, when talking about what he would’ve done if he had ‘known’ she was still alive, he slips up and says, “I would’ve let her go.” And that really just says it all.
Right at the end they mention another case hes under investigation for "you took her back to ur gfs trailer, you showered together, she asked you to stop but you didnt stop"
If you're out with friends, please don't leave a comrade behind. I know it might be inconvenient if someone is adamant about staying out but it's better than possibly losing that person to predators like this piece of shit.
you're absolutely right. this happens way too much. they're out having a good time and someone wants to leave but someone else wants to stay. If you arrive together then you should leave together or have some kind of plan to ensure the everyone gets home safe.
My friend took my car and left me at a club!! I was 22yrs old and didn't go out much. Luckily my best friend was home and went across town to save me at 2a.m after that experience I was always the designated driver.
the amount of times people left me at clubs and parties in my late teens and early 20s is exactly why I don't go out anymore lmao people can be so fucking selfish it's ridiculous, i'm incredibly lucky that I was never killed honestly.
My friend is still haunted 15 years later because she and a group of friends brough a Dutch, mostly deaf exchange student with them to a rave out in the desert, and the girl got separated because her other friend who said she would stay with her, is a big bad gangsta and was busy drinking and doing drugs, and they left without her because no one could find her, and she was never seen again as far as she knows. She has to live with that knowledge for the rest of her life now.
I'm glad you did this one. Went to school with this guy and when they caught him he lived about 500 feet from me . Side note: that sketch looked JUST like this other kid from our town. Poor kid was questioned and accused. And the guy who threw the party was accused alot too and he is seriously so nice and didn't deserve it, he was judged based solely on appearance and music ect.
Has he always thought he was this “ladies man” where he can pull as many girls as he claims? Most guys that act like him usually with hit on everything with a vagina and take whatever they can get to sound like a player. They choose quantity over quality but I doubt he gets much action, the way he talks to women like things he can fuck.
@@dfc41 I'm a dude and can easily say, any guy who talks like he's a gift from god to women is trash. I had a buddy who thought he was the shit by sleeping with every girl he could and then would make fun of them afterwards, he would talk about every detail, and would even try to show pictures of them naked to anyone who would look & listen to him. Long story short, he is in prison for assault & rape.
My nephew, his gf & child lived in that same apartment bldg & actually met this creep. He said he was definitely this type of narcissistic character & didnt trust him but got vibes n ig he showed up at his door once wen only his gf was home n after learning wat he did to Chelsea, tripped him out! My nephew hung out with this creep right in his livingroom @his child!!! As i watch some of these, i think of my younger self & just smh cuz i wonder how many times my guardian angel put in some O.T.
As a female myself, when my friends leave, I leave. Drilled into my brain from first play date as a child. There will always be monsters and they’re amongst us, some of them are hard to identify so one must protect oneself vigilantly.
Sadly we never expected a serious cold killer to be in our town.. we all (as a town) knew he was weird, but we have girls like Chelsea, who was the sweetest soul in the world, who makes everyone to be good. No matter what. I wish he got the death sentence.. but our town does not do that..
@@fmcdomer More or less. However, there are men / boys who gets roofied, then get raped or robbed and maybe killed as well, just not as many as women in these sort of crime. You don’t agree?
1:20:28 "if that was my daughter" are you kidding me? men like him do not view women as independent human beings unless part of them is attached to them or they "own" them in a way, i.e. daughter or wife. what a pathetic and awful person. rest in peace, Chelsea.
Well we aren’t even women! Just ‘hot chicks’, ‘ugly chicks’, ‘fat chicks’ or his ‘baby mama’. He’s so disgusting 🤮, and clearly has no respect for women. It’s like he sees women as his playthings, and once he’s bored of them he just discards and moves on to the next one 🥴
Yup. The cops can keep asking you questions. It's up to YOU to invoke your 5th amendment and say nothing else until you have an attorney you trust has your criminal defense as their first priority.
@@youtubecommenter2527 this is not true, police are required to stop asking questions after suspect asks for an attorney, unless they state they are in fact willing to talk without one.
@@bogwitch2 cant post links here but just google it, police are required to stop an interrogation once you request a lawyer, unless you waive your rights
@@bogwitch2you're wrong. They have to stop asking. But you have to ask for a lawyer the right way, which is ridiculous. Any mention of a lawyer should halt the interview.
So the cops ARE lying when they say that it will make him look better to th jury. Jury doesn't REALLY care if you confessed, at least not in the sense of reducing sentencing for it
@cboom3205 yeah, those are detectives - beyond collective evidence they don't have influence in court proceedings. Separate branches of government and all.
I know it’s not a laughing matter but I find it funny how the suspect actually changes his story so unbelievably through the interview from not seeing her and being sober to being wasted and having sex with her and they think that people will believe the story
To be fair, this happens occasionally in innocent interrogation subjects, too. Not knowing whether something you think is truly insignificant could be seen by the police as incriminating and end up putting you away for decades, fear alone could get you to cut corners in your story only to scramble when it's seen through or when your own anxiety makes you crack
@@ophiolatreia93 I'd have to go through the innocent confessions I know to see specifically when/if they do in that particular one. Instead, google this article on it by the Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law: "False Confessions: Causes, Consequences, and Implications". It's pretty long but you can skip around to parts on innocent subjects recanting their alibis, and sometimes changing their story completely due to the stress of being interrogated and psychologically manipulated during said interrogation.
I was thinking the same thing. Those cops must've had at least a little fun batting this guy around and getting him to change his story DRASTICALLY. I lost it when he's like "oh wait no, it wasn't my baby mamas car, it was my roommates!"
This cant be real life….. i never would have thought i would have seen another upload from you guys this soon after recently uploading.. most depressing part is when u guys post a video, i know we wont get 1 for a month but DAMN we all got so lucky… and i get why it takes so long cause the work u guys put into your videos it literally can not be any better and u guys cover it ALL… You guys are the best out there… cant wait to watch this later
Sometimes I think I’m in a simulation because when I do something all of a sudden it’s all over TH-cam for example I researched a word and all of a sudden when I watch TH-cam people are now saying the word I researched despite nto saying it till I researched it also
@maltheri9833that what gets em everytime. Trying to be slick and get more information out of a detective than they give in return. Wanna know what the police know, let your lawyer find out 😂 Ive watched tons of these and its mindblowing how many wouldve probably walked or gotten a decade instead of life id they just get a public defender theyd be infinitely better off.
You guys are awesome at what you do, every afterschool I come home to watch your content, so far the qualified team doing the research and the narrator for these videos are incredible. Thanks for sharing!
He’s so repulsive. Happily beats to death a vulnerable victim and god knows what other victims he has but is “literally like” having a panic attack and needs water. Such a weak pathetic man. Just throw away the key.
Ive been binge watching these (y’all are amazing) - but damn, this is the first one to truly enrage me. Mainly at the end, because this man child literally said “my life is ruined too” when asked what to say to a grieving family. People like this guy are the reason I’ve lost so much faith in our species. Ugh. I’m so, so sorry Chelsea. You deserved so much better.
You know, I read this comment and I was with you. Then I started to think about and really, this one guy isn't the rule, he and people like him are the exception. It's the detectives, friends, family and strangers who came out to find her and get her justice who are the examples of humanity I choose to use. Though this guy is the focus of the video, he's not the most important person in the story. Don't let his ilk poison your faith in the good people out there just because there are some bad.
@@Brand64730 Exactly. If these people weren't the rare exception to the rule, we wouldn't be here watching this video. It's entertaining _because_ these people aren't normal and we're getting a glimpse into their minds. Most people are generally good and that's just a statistical fact.
Always surprises me when suspects don't insist on getting an attorney. Especially when they know they are guilty. Must be the narcissism, thinking they can outwit the interrogator.
”Especially when they know that they're guilty?” 😂 They know that no attorney will go up to bat for their made up BS, why else wouldn't they consult an attorney? LOL 🤔😂🤷♀️ Good point though, that's 1 good dead give away.
@@velvetpixiecake5310 Oh there's many that would LOVE to defend a scumbag like this. It's a challenge. It's a way to show how good they are to themselves and others. Imagine they get a clearly guilty defendant to walk free. That is a HUGE advertisement! Now they can show future clients that they are good and worth the money they charge. Trust me, there's a lot of sick attorneys out there that only care about winning even if it means helping a killer get off. To be clear though there's also many attorneys who still do the right thing and will only defend them to the extent that their rights are respected.
I love this channel and was excited (for lack of a better word) to see this case from my home town! My husband is related to the detective on the case.
I'm literally terrified of ever being taken into an interrogation, even if I'm completely innocent. I have such crippling social anxiety and I'd be so focused on trying to look and sound innocent that I'd likely end up doing the exact opposite
Don't ever speak to the police without a lawyer. You're legally allowed to say "no comment" to every question they ask you in an interrogation. I've done it myself after an unlawful arrest for protesting, I was advised to do so, was then taken to court where the judge dismissed the case (because I did nothing wrong). Dont be scared ❤️
"Just get my jumpsuit and get me to a bunk you can talk to my attorney." I've watched a lot of interrogations and have really grown to admire the detectives saavy in what they do.
This is it, the formula. This narrator, this style, and you guys will own all of True Crime TH-cam unquestioned. You have attained JCS level greatness here
@@TaniaAlemide Ultimately you're not proven guilty on what the police think about you, but rather what evidence they have, they can be 100% sure you're the culprit but if there's no evidence there's no way for you to get convicted. If you talk you may be able to make the police think you're not the culprit (potentially turning their attention elsewhere), but anything you've said could be used to build a case against you if they decide you're most likely the culprit, and that's the best case, in the worst case you could (and very likely would) make yourself look more guilty. If you however choose to lawyer up then you may look more guilty, but there's no way for you to accidentally incriminate yourself.
It really is baffling to me how many guilty people will just agree to talk to police without a lawyer. I've always been told that even if you are 100% innocent you should never talk to police without a lawyer. But I guess a lot of the criminals featured in this aren't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@ResinateByChanel Asking for a lawyer doesn't make you look guilty, everyone should ask for a lawyer. It's also not admissable in court to use "he asked for a lawyer" as evidence.
This guy seems easily manipulated. Three times he mentions a lawyer and each time he is talked out of it. While I find that police work rather unethical, it's probably still within the law, and he should have known better having been arrested before.
This entire interrogation: “I was tipsy but I don’t get drunk.” “I was drunk” “No no I wasn’t fked up! I remember!” “I don’t know i was fked up I was so drunk!” “I wasn’t fked though!” “I was so drunk I’m not sure” “I was fine enough to drive I obviously got home safely” Oh my god. If he wasn’t such a POS it would be funny. Also wow, his pity party about how it hasn’t just been “about her” but how he’s had a tough year and a half blah blah… absolutely revolting.
I was falsely accused of murder at 16. I can remember the interrogation like it was yesterday. They were using all these techniques but they were also saying that I did it. It was the scariest moment in my life. I thought I was going down for something I didn't do. This kids death was so brutal and morbid that I still have night terrors regarding it.
how did people find out about it? did the authorities publicize it or something? regardless, that’s wrong on so many levels. the fact that you were only 16 makes matters worse..really bothers me when people can’t accept someone’s innocence, (when they’ve 100% been ruled out as a suspect/the perpetrator & w/ proof on hand) really hope you’re doing okay. i can’t imagine that level of trauma. be well man!
@@jordanmutebi I'll try to find the podcast where I give all the details and we try and solve the case. I believe there are 4 hour long podcasts that I was involved in to try and clear up all theories and what not.
Ive watched plenty of these and one thing all these people seem to have in common is no empathy for their victim, only that they destroyed their own life. Very sad.
"I'm going to have a panic attack and I think I might cry. May I please have a cigarette and some water?" What about Chelsea? You didn't care that she was in horrific distress and dying! The audacity of these monsters.
Exactly my thoughts. I had to roll my eyes when I heard that. Like Oh no, you're having a panic attack because you're being questioned about that girl that you took advantage of, and then you brutally murdered her (which most likely caused her immense suffering and fear before she finally stopped feeling anything), hid her body and left her to decompose, all the while her loved ones were going through terrible pain not knowing where she is and what happened to her?! Even though you could've just walked away without hurting her?! Poor you! I feel soooo sorry for you experiencing anxiety! That guy is a waste of space and oxygen.
This is probably the first video of this kind that I've seen where the cops actually WERE telling the truth about what they had. Usually they bluff a lot more, these guys cut to the chase pretty quickly:"Hey, we've got your DNA, I'll show you the results."
One bit stood out for me.. When he was in his second interview and mentioned running from the cops.. He said he stopped after fifty feet.. The detective asks him if he realized the cops were faster.. He immediately says 'No, it wasn't that.. I was outrunning the cops, I was gonna get away and just decided to stop..' Even in this little tiny non eventful story, he couldn't imagine someone else thinking he wasn't the hero of the story.. he couldn't bear someone he doesn't know and will never see again thinking he couldn't outrun another man.. Narcissism at it's absolute worst.
yeah its sinilar to how, when discussing carrying her body, he says ‘im not that big of a beast.’ In one of his pics he is wearing a shirt that says ‘beast’ on it. Clearly he has a completely warped perception of himself and it’s noticeable in seemingly innocuous comments like that.
Imas much as I think there’s some truth to your comment, I’d like to point out that on the contrary, when others say something false about you, you usually correct them. So in an event of telling a story and the other person doesn’t understand the concept of the story, they will correct that person. Just food for thought.
the detectives know that any mistake can result in the interrogation becoming inadmissible in court. there are very strict laws that they must abide by. precisely by not acting out on their feelings the cops ensure that this interrogation will pass as valid evidence in court, which in turn will result in the killer staying behind bars for the rest of his life.
As a person with hearing loss, these subtitles are my saving grace! I'd be pretty lost without them, so thank you for all the effort that goes into them, it doesn't go unnoticed
Did anyone else notice the way he had to stop himself from saying " I've had to live with this my whole....life" and how he reacted when they said they knew about another girl..... and how relieved he was when he realised it wasn't who he had in mind. Imo he'd seriously attacked at least one other girl and quite possibly murdered her. I'd have a very close look into if there had been any missing younger woman in that area within 5 years of that attack, especially with any connection to him. And if the body was found with ligature or strangulation marks and or signs of sexual interference or rape. I'm glad he's now off the streets and apparently for good.
Pretty sure they have. I'm sure they charged him with a scroll of charges even involving other victims but they only have so much time for just that interrogation.
As someone who was interrogated for a possible attempted murder love triangle, I was a blithering mess !!! And the theories they came up with were WILD!!!! Our cousin was robbed and stabbed , almost to death, my husband and I saved him. He died 6 times !! Once in my arms . He went into a coma , thank God he woke up and told them the truth . Scariest thing ever !
They just keep trying to connect dots that don't exist it's how innocent people get convicted. I'm pro police but they have too much authority and not enough repercussions for breaking the law they are supposed to uphold. The brotherhood mentality is basically a mental illness within the police force too. They need redefined structure for accurate outcomes.
@@fluffylittlebear what the fuck kind of takeaway is this? They went through a horrible situation and all you can think to say is "oh but youre probably less shallow now at least!"?
When you’re being interrogated for a crime while in prison stripes for a totally different crime, you know you haven’t made the best choices in life… 😐
He was in jail for not paying child support. Ohio & Michigan will arrest/jail you for non payment. Ohio will pay it to the custodial parent so the kids don't do without & then bill the other parent for it. Like a tax lien haunting you forever. I had an uncle with kids in their 30s & he still owed the state when he died at 60.
It’s so cool because Detective Sroka was the lead investigator, and his attention to detail kept the investigation going. And then Detective Preadmore led the interrogation
the science of studying how someone's body movements betray what they are actually thinking is so fascinating. lots of smart people have obviously spent many years interrogating bad guys to learn how to apply stuff like this.
I agree. The guy puts a huge amount of effort into adding that value to the channel and he mostly just gets a bunch of comments from people who seem to think it's a bunch of silliness. They do it because it works, better than doing nothing.
I was kinda surprised he got first degree, but I get it - he clearly didn't really care if that girl was dead or alive and these interrogations didn't change that, it's better for society to keep that guy in the slammer. I bet prosecution played up those facial fractures as the dude literally smashing her head against the vehicle or something, that's actually a thing I kind of understood - you take the biggest log first to cover up the body, line it up between the legs and tip over after which it falls straight on the face. I bet he thought to himself "nice", but his celebration was cut short by her deathrattle. Horrible man, 10/10 sentencing.
@@Seraphyl333 I don't feel like it should matter all that much, but I guess it all depends what's he gonna have in his walking papers. A rep might look at that and think "21? Nice. Let me hear it Joey".
For further reading, get a copy of "You Have The Right To Remain Innocent" by James Duane. It's a fast and easy read, as well as a very informative one. In the meantime, never date an investigator, I guess. Imagine coming back from the store WITHOUT the half gallon of milk you originally went there for. heh heh ... Having said all this (in a feeble attempt at humor), yeah, this POS is why we have investigators!
He seems to me like he may be a serial rapist if not in the process of becoming a serial murderer if he’s already killed another girl before being locked up well he may just get raped in jail himself and then he can worry about himself some more🙄
First off, this guy is a monster. Second off, this video is a good example of why you never, ever, talk to a cop in an interrogation, even if you are innocent. They can lie and say whatever they like to manipulate you, and the way he got him to get away from talking to a lawyer multiple times was masterful interrogation skills.
@Cristo Alba yeah, cops are allowed to lie, but THAT particular lie … I really feel like that’s grounds for an appeal to throw out the rest of the confession from that point on … telling someone they can’t have a lawyer at that moment, when untrue, definitely I feel like on appeal that could and should be a major sticking point. My issue is that if someone is innocent, and they do this, but feed them stuff after to get them to say things, basically putting words in their mouths … that’s how innocent people end up in prison. Not saying this guy is innocent, but this happens to actual innocent people because the police are convinced they have the right guy - that’s not for them to decide, it’s for the court - he blatantly asked for a lawyer at that point. They should have stopped and called one in, not lied and said they couldn’t get one.
Every time I watch one of these videos I’m absolutely amazed that none of them ask for a lawyer and when they do they eventually get manipulated back in to talking. Obviously in the situation of guilty people for serious, violent crimes, I’m glad on the one hand. But everyone else… it’s depressing
I love the subtitles. Your channel's subtitles have always been on point, but I love the subtitles sitting next to the speakers in the room. I think that's new with this video, but if it's not, it makes the interrogation analysis and breakdown so much easier to understand. This channel's production quality is top notch, and it's tiny optimizations like that that make us viewers aware that you continue to improve the quality and user-friendliness of each video. Truly love this channel.
When he said "I would've let her go" it made my hairs stand on end. That one phrase added a whole new dimension to the crime. Was Chelsea actively trying to escape from the car? Makes me want to go check my doors are locked when I'm reminded of people like this.
My guess I feel almost certain that he offered Chelsea a ride home and then demanded sex, and then got mean and angry at her refusals. That's why he said "let her go" he wouldn't let her out of the car. And then his comments about CeCe who was accusing him of rape....he's claiming she's mad because he ditched her after sex, when it really seems like a date rape scenario, where she went out with him, and didn't want to do it on the first date which......that kind of scenario has probably gone through the roof with dating aps. 🤢And then there's the third accuser Charlie whom he says "I know she was saying some shit. ie...another date rape." 🤮 I think with Chelsea he may have decided with her he couldn't say "Oh we went on a date she's just mad I pumped and dumped" like he was suggesting about Charlie and CeCe whom he thought proof of their agreeing to go out with him on their phones would be proof it wasn't rape (because he's a rapist dumbass). He thought he could do that with both Charlie and CeCe but with Chelsea he just offered her a ride home and he violently ripped her costume, and there would be nothing on her phone saying she liked him etc... so he killed her thinking he could cover her rape up and no one would be able to connect the dots. Duh.
Yeah. It made me think that he forced himself upon her, and she was trying to escape. Maybe she managed to escape, but being so drunk she didn't get far enough... And so he killed her. It also makes me think that this wasn't the first time. The shower story seemed to point to that too. I think he forced himself upon a lot of women, it's just that the others managed to get out alive, or maybe there are some who didn't, but they haven't been found yet... It's really creepy to think that people like him walk among us. You could be interacting with one, they could be planning to do something horrible to you as they smile in your face, and you have no idea...
That detective ABSOLUTELY KNEW that it was skin the entire time… the ‘error’ of saying it was semen was intentional to get him to admit to the sex with her; pretty sly/genius.
@@mappingthevoid well don’t commit any crimes and always ask for a lawyer then it won’t matter if the police lie to you. Their ability to lie has helped them catch many stupid criminals I don’t see the issue.
@@mappingthevoid you really care about the police lying to a dude like this? Think about it. IF YOU WERE INNOCENT OF ANY CRIME THE STUPID LIES THEY SAY WOULD AMOUNT TO NOTHING. So there should honestly be no type of feelings toward cops lying to catch a dude like this. Unless you are one.
The professional qualifications behind your guys analysis makes your channel far more insightful and interesting than any others. Thank you for sharing
Agreed, and they just keep getting better with the analysis and also pointing out red flags 🚩 in abusive relationships.
Yes! I think Jim Can’t Swim was just a couple of criminology students that had a falling out with each other and threw a good thing down the trash. I appreciate the credentials on this EWU channel.
@@giantfatberg Where'd you get that from?
@@heatherreich2687 I know that red flags that are being pointed out has saved at least one relationship...
Agree totally and completely. Well said @Todd Durante
Will you guys do one where someone is being falsely accused? You always say "an innocent person wouldn't do this" so I want to actually see how an innocent person would react
Would be interesting indeed! Think most observations on here are pretty accurate.
Lot of doubt about the arm gestures though. i feel like throwing your arms up like 'what?!' while being accused would be pretty common for anyone. Guilty or not
@@RandomCommentingGuy yea ive thrown my arms up being honest
Pretty sure they've done one about an innocent person before, or might of been a similar channel
@@madchubbsgames_it4895 Right? Seems more like defensive behaviour than anything else.
@@ashav3li You're right, the Ryan Waller case. Think it's the saddest case i've ever watched.
I feel like one of the hardest parts about being a cop is pretending to like someone you want to throttle for doing a crime you find absolutely disgusting.
Yes!!! And these detectives are amazing. I’m thoroughly impressed
Kind of like working in the service industry eh!
Absolutely!
pizza delivery is a harder and more dangerous job than police
@@Shadow-In-The-East daily job sometimes 🤣🤣
I know it's a mood killer, but when your friend is clearly blacked out drunk and belligerent do NOT leave her alone in a random place! You can be mad at her tomorrow or end the friendship, but you don't leave people you care about as prey for these sick predators.
True
I left my friend alone and he came back 6 years later…
By the time you've convinced a belligerent drunk to do something, it IS tomorrow. But if you're a sucker for abuse, go for it. When it becomes a nightly chore, it gets less appealing. (insert obligatory caveats)
facts you will never know if it’s you ofc we would all want people to take care of us for our misbehavior cause shit happens sometimes 💯💔
@@amarissimus29 They left her without transportation and without her phone! If you feel this way about a person and you know their history or don't have patience, you shouldn't have even picked them up from their house!
These videos are miles better than most Netflix docs
That's because it's genuine. It isn't fluffed and overproduced.
That’s because it is straight up content without the frills. No cut scene, music, dramatic re enactments that are laughable.. straight up content with some narration is all we want.
I mean the Reid technique is total nonsense and BS, as nonsense as lie detectors, just like being able to lie to suspects etc its just a blunt weapon haha not some great psychological process
Random but I noticed on a lot of the Netflix documentary's people talk like they're saying a question. "She was really sweet? She loved everyone?" It's so odd and honestly really annoying. "We found DNA that didn't belong to her? That made us question? " like the same tone and same question at the end. So odd
They at least get to say words like “blowjob” and “sex” on Netflix lol
It will NEVER fail to make me laugh that when interrigators say "I'm not trying to trick you" they're DEFINITELY trying to trick you
This trick , and or any tactic is said, to get the end result , a confession . 🥸
@@DannySebahar Yep. If he simply shut his mouth he'd probably be a free man right now.
@@DannySebaharhalfway thru the interview reading comments this made me laugh they said we have fluid and made a lie to cover the rape his own lying demon tricked him into confessing to torment his soul more in prison. truly evil ppl don’t care what anyone thinks just ask for a lawyer truly smart ppl don’t care what anyone thinks just ask for a lawyer ppl who care what ppl think of them never stop talking.
IDK about the rest of you, but I find it disturbing how the police seems to actively try to trick the suspect into waiving their 5th amendment rights. There's always a part in these videos where the narrator says "now the police does this and that so the suspect doesn't ask for a lawyer", as if the Constitution is some nuisance and the police skirts around to follow the letter of it instead of respecting its spirit. If and actual criminal confesses because of it that's good, but I think there's a reason why we have those rights to begin with. It's a fact that plenty of innocent people go to prison (provably innocent, as in people who are later proven innocent), and I have a feeling this police tactic has a lot to do with it
@@exantiuse497 to an extent you're right, but the majority of false imprisonment is negligence with evidence, scummy attorneys, and racism/sexism :// I think out of everything the detectives do, skirting around the 5th amendment is within their right. They say clear as day that at any point the suspect can stop and call an attorney, sometimes they say it multiple times and have the suspect repeat it back to them. It's just another tactic imo
the fact he keeps calling her “ugly” or “the ugly one” knowing she’s deceased shows you what kind of person he is.
Totally agree and I know this is shallow but he’s a beast himself. No room to talk at all.
He thinks he's a 10....when he's more like a 2.
@@rachaelb8914 exactly.
@Rachael B if you're only going by looks bc factor in his ego and he's a - 100
@@jacoblewis5130 factor in that he's a murderer and it plummets even further 😂
I’d ask why he didn’t ask for a lawyer, but since he’s a narcissist it makes perfect sense that he’d believe he could talk himself out of anything. A perfect way to demonstrate how brilliant he is, being able to outsmart the police.
FOR SURE!!!
So true,and you gave me a little chuckle. Thanks
Always the dumbest fks who believe they're the smartest 🙈. He sounds ridiculous when he says she was hot enough for him to recognize or remember her 🥴
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Seriously, anything other then 'I invoke the fifth' is just going to dig yourself into a deep hole. I remember reading an article years ago that most cases are solved by confessions and if you don't say anything your odds of winning/ not getting charged skyrocket.
Chelsea was my high school girlfriend's best friend, and I got to know her a little bit. She was so kind and had a bright future ahead of her. There was a time period where some believed her killer would not be caught. I'm glad he was brought to justice. Rest in peace, Chelsea. You deserved better.
Why anyone would think a cop is on their side in the middle of trying to get a confession out of them is beyond me
Well, they're murders so pretty nuts and fucked up, not normal thinking
Simple brain trickery, when you're making eye contact and pretending to care about bullshit stories as if they're true and/or relevant anything is possible.
thats the power of manipulation theyre using manipulative techniques
desperation; I suppose
Blind hope. They desperately want to be believed so they go with what appears to be a life line.
This applies to both girls and guys ... Don't leave a friend behind at a party or a club or a night out. No matter how obnoxious and insistent your friend is, don't leave em ... And have that conversation before you go out, so it's not a surprise if/when it happens.
I agree. I felt so bad for Chelsea , but I also kind of hold the party security responsible as well. This party was huge , an annual event with over 1000 people in attendance. The guy who held the party was somewhat smug about the fact Chelsea went missing. I think he seen Daniel and kept his mouth shut. He was only worried about his reputation, and the fact his so called party security was nothing more than a farce.
2 in same 2 out
It’s true but I used to have a habit of going out to bars/parties and getting drunk and not wanting to leave… I’m a dude and typically other dudes will only ask a few times before they just leave you… but leaving a drunk girl behind somewhere is an absolute no no because drunk girls are a target for losers and scumbags… I used to live in a party house when I got out of highschool and more than once I had to intervene and stop some guy who was hanging around and circling a visibly drunk girl like a vulture…. granted I don’t think the guy wanted to brutally murder the girl… I know what he wanted to do but we never let that kind of stuff go down in our house and If a group of girls came over and one of them got too drunk I would make sure they take her with them when they leave lol.
@@TDOLLA Drunk girls are absolutely a target, but drunk guys can easily be too. Leaving a mate on his own drunk is a stupid move, for anyone reading.
@@TingTingalingy For sure. Just a message to anyone out there not to assume drunk guys are safe and to not leave them walk home alone.
In my area, guys get drunk far more often than girls and they're a lot more likely to be alone.
“I’ve ruined my life, too by doing this.”
“Not worried about that”
I love how the detective doesn’t hold back now that he has enough evidence to put this bastard away for life
That was harsh
@@paulwoodford1984 him killing that girl was harsh wdym 😳
@@paulwoodford1984 No it was appropriate because he’s still breathing while chelsea isn’t.
@@paulwoodford1984 you cant be serious
@@paulwoodford1984 pathetic, weak comment
2 baby mamas? Which women are sleeping with these losers?
Women who have never had male affection outside of users like this, and think its normal
The other losers
loser women get loser men. it is what it is.
True, the cycles of abuse continue...@@Gwyllgi
great question mate
The Detective: "Trust me im not trying to trick you"
He was, in fact, trying to trick him
...multiple times...
he got the shit tricked out of him.
"I've been straight up with you."
LOL He sure wasn't
I don't know any cops, but i imagine that they must absolutely hate having to read people their maranda rights. "If you talk to us we can use anything you say against you. Would you like to talk to us?"
Biggest one is she didn't even have brittle bone and the Sargent said so
I ditched my safe ride home to call a drunken stranger's mother, and I stayed with that girl until her mother came and picked her up! Never leave vulnerable people behind!
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You're a real one 😘 thank you for being a good person 😊
Absolutely legendary
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They way this man talks about women is actually terrifying especially given context of his actions
now do rap music
Fr bro, the fact that they are talking about a woman he KILLED, and he has the guts to smirk and say something was 'f**king hilarious' makes me really impressed that the cops kept their cool.
Ok
@@Nonybusinessxxxxxx weird to call out rap music specifically as if women have been talked about any differently in other genres, or in any other media for that matter. Misogyny can be found everywhere in our media, it's what happens when you live in a patriarchal society.
what about that its much harder for good hearted men to get anywhere w the typical woman?
“I don’t really like to get drunk, just a little tipsy.”
“How much did you have to drink?”
“A pint of vodka and some fireball.”
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Daniel's version of being honest:
"I started getting a little tipsy."
"I don't like to get drunk."
"I won't lie. I drove drunk."
"I don't get drunk."
"I was wasted."
"i was so fing drunk I choked her!"
And conveniently doesn't remember the part where he beat her to death because he "was so fukd up". Sure Daniel.
"ok, I may do a tute."
even after the confession that he did in fact kill her, he keeps flip-flopping. "I was fucked up, I was out of it" "I wasn't THAT drunk"
I BLACKED OUT lol!
Protip: No matter if you’re guilty or innocent, if the cops start bringing up a dead girl, it’s probably a good idea to say: “I’d like to help as much as possible, but given the seriousness of the matter, I’d like to speak with an attorney!”
I totally agree; but, it was his OWN DECISION to waive his rights to have an attorney and then to go ahead with the interview/interrogation. The detective told him when he mentioned about maybe wanting a lawyer that they would have to stop talking; but, he said that he was going to waive his rights for an attorney being present and continue talking to them; so that part was absolutely no one's fault but his own.
I'd rather idiots like this waived their right to an attorney and confess.
Do you think smart people murder innocents? No they don't.
i watch so much true crime that at this point i feel like if police showed up at my place and asked for me i’d say i need a lawyer
I don't think they would have ever had enough on him to take him to court for murder. He gave them everything they needed. I'm glad he did but it's hard to watch as well
and by the way, I LOVE the color coded subtitles, it helps SO MUCH on top of the already helpful SUBTITLES! This channel is the best!
It's the opposite 4 me
I cannot read the colored ones at all
@@lindaarrington9397 are you colorblind?
So, do tell how do you get these color coded subtitles?? I want them too!!!
@@grumpyone3806 you didnt watch the video, bot.
Same
I’m from this area and worked with the initial suspect at a steel plant. If you look up the sketch they initially put out, it was a dude with thick rimmed glasses and 2010’s sweeping bangs. Everyone was CERTAIN that he had something to do with it. I was shocked when they announced this guy had been found guilty. I hope the original suspect is doing well now. I can’t imagine all the trouble that caused him.
Shitty part is..noone cares about the damage caused to wrongly accused. Its business as usual when the real killer is found
Liar
@@drizzyfest6285?
@@drizzyfest6285 🤡
@@drizzyfest6285 ?
The suspect at this point states: "I'm stressed out", this is an indicator that he's experiencing stress.
Hahaha
😂😂😂
The suspect is breathing air further indicating he is a live and still a prime suspect
Thanks for the clarification.
lol
He keeps calling women ugly but he’s definitely no prize.
Dude built like a cartoon henchman
Usually the case trailer park people…
I hate this interrogation because both officers keep talking at the same time.
I agree. He looks creepy.
@@lisaa.4667so does ur dad...
Them continuously stroking his ego while questioning him was brilliant. His ego is so big that it stopped him from getting a lawyer.
Ego is way bigger than his pea brain.
Narcissists have NO ego. This is the reason why they pretend to have a huge one. Dont get this messed up like many people do. Someone who has a huge ego CANNOT be as evil as narcissists are.
@@jankowalski9416 nobody was speaking abt ego in the Freudian sense. Ego meaning sense of self and self importance. Everything narcs do is in service to that egotism
@@hazard3483 on what exactly? Do you disagree and this is why you are asking? You would have to ask a specific question. I dont know what you are looking for when asking me to "elaborate".
@@hazard3483 Thats what my first post was all about. People constantly confuse it when i read the internet. Even some psychologists repeat this bollocks.
Narcissist has no ego. He has no sense of self importance in this world. He has no identity at all... Someone with a big ego would have a very specified identity, quite a narrow one in a good sense. Also quite closed boundaries whereas a narcissist does not have any personal boundaries. You can approach him and insult him or spit in his face on the street and.... you will see no reaction. He doesnt have dignity, he doesnt feel offened (although he feels humilliated).
Someone with big ego today, also had many friends in the past, there were many events that created memories.
A narcissist? There were no event in his childhood, he had no friends (0 exactly). He was abused entire childhood by his narcissistic parents and bullied by his peers. He was completely isolated. This is how you create a narcissist.
To be more specific , THE ONLY reason that made someone a narcissist is isolation. There is no other reason for developing this disorder. No general abuse can make you a narcissist. No mental, no verbal, no sexual. ONLY lack of contacts with people from an early age.
I will quote one of the psychologist : "an ego does not develop in a vacuum". That just proves that what i write is correct. You cannot develop without interaction with other people...
Narcissism is not just another disorder, it is not even another personality disorder. It is a development disorder in a way. You are stuck in a limbo, without an identity.
This is also the reason this disorder is 100% permanent. No there is no cure and there will be none even in 1000 years. Once you are a narcissist, thats is. Game over. None of us have a time machine.
Last thing that i wouldto repeat-someone that has a really big ego IS NOT capable of doing really evil things. Only those without an ego or with a "broken ego" are. Narcissist has no ego, psychopath has no ego. Borderlines have "broken ego" but they are not too far gone, not in a limbo. They can recover.
Any other things that you would like to discuss?
Also, every time you say something like “this is a sign of deception” etc, I’m sat here thinking damn this is just how I communicate with people in every day life, if I’m ever suspected of something I didn’t do I’m probably screwed 😂
😂 same!
It’s literally hogwash and basically just a post hoc Rorschach test
They don't rely on this too much. No matter what they says. You usually can't tell someone is lying unless you know that person very well, or unless what they says is opposite to factual information. It's like lie detectors.
when sitting in one position for too long naturally you'll change your angle of the body.
They say multiple times, it's not one single thing. It's multiple different things they do in a time frame. They point it out because it shows how much they do it.
You'd think that a man currently in jail and who went through the justice system many many times would think to ask for his lawyer... Narcissism at its best
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Better Call Saul !
I hate narcissists! My dad's one and I can't wait too fxcking move away from him!
I hope that dude gets a looooong jail time
More like sociopathy or psychopathy, I reckon, although he could be diagnosed with both for sure. A severe malignant narcissist is almost indistinguishable from a psychopath anyway.
The common theme seems to be that most of these guys are ridiculously dumb or naive, because even if you were going to "participate" in an interview, they always inevitably insinuate that you are the guilty party.
It makes no sense that someone who has gone through the system multiple times would agree to an interrogation without an attorney. Its basic self preservation.
Disgusting how this guy literally killed someone but his main concern is still how HIS life will be inconvenienced after getting caught.
Can i hear you say “psychopath…?” Lol obviously that’s what he is.. I just started watching but I know that’s about to piss me off. Hopefully a kid isn’t hvrt🤦🏾♀️
Seems like more of a MURDERER, RAPIST and narcissistic sociopath to me
Which is just as dangerous as if not more than any psychopath
That's a recurrent theme. There's a case of a Canadian skater ice skater who had attempted to have both of her parents killed, I think one survived and throughout the questioning she kept saying but what happens to me? The cops did an exceptional job it was a fake home invasion and they said the satellites could see through her house and saw that she was involved how stupid can you be.
HE WASN'T IN LOVE With HER, WHY WOULD HE HAVE ANY FEELINGS
@@jurgenfreiberger6593 so cus he didn’t love her, it’s ok that he k!lled her? Or did I just ready your comment wrong?
Her body was discovered by complete accident. She could've stayed there forever and this guy would be living his life with no consequences. And if this girl was found by accident, what if he killed other girls and left them where no one can find them? He talks about women in such disgraceful way, I'd bet she's not the only one.
He had duct tape. I think you're right that she isn't the only one.
@@jessicamartinez3613Because nobody uses duct tape for anything but murder.
@@mrFiiSKiiS a guy like him? Unlikely. It’s not far fetched to think he’s done this multiple times.
I think a big reason why he was caught was because other women came forward, one specifically for a really violent rape in the back of his truck. he totally has zero respect for women, and i don't know if he murdered anyone before, but he's definitely hurt them before, and has the capacity for doing it
What’s bad it’s no telling how many people are walking around like him
No reason on gods green earth am I leaving any of my friends alone at a party without their phone or purse. Something ain’t right with these “friends”
How was she supposed to pay for her drinks?
@@patriciasisson84… you don’t pay for drinks at a house party? Lol have you ever been to one?
@@Josecannoli1209 unless it's a super fancy one, my friend hired a bartender for a party once, but that was a super bougie type party.
Yeah the thing that is wrong with them is they are fucking terrible friends and I hope her mother never lets them forget it. There have been multiple times where I have had to babysit young women who are drunk out of their minds and whose friends ditched them. I initially met my best friend when we were both 20 years old, she had gone with some friends to her first ever "adult" party. They got her drunk, and then ditched her to go fuck their boyfriends, one of them drove behind a liquor store to do it. She was 20 years old, had never been drunk before, just wanted to enjoy being an adult and have a good time. Her friends had her do shots of tequila and then ditched her.
Facts! No Girl left behind is the #1 rule when going out with the girls.
"Just by telling you this," "I've lost everything." No, you still have your life. It may be spent behind bars, but you still have a beating heart and breathe in your lungs. Chelsea is the one whom lost everything. Her mother lost a dear child, something that can never be replaced. Your mother can still see you, hear your voice, read your letters. Chelsea's mother will never have any of that, ever again. Sad, very sad.
no offense id rather be dead than in prison for life
its in almost every one of these videos that the killers only concern is the inconvience or impact of their actions will have on their own live, never any remorse for the victim or family.
thats why i have so little faith in rehabilitation, they are never going to care how their actions impact the world around them, only if they suffer in prison will they get a taste of the receiving end
@@omars-qz6rn you say that but you're probably lying, to yourself and us. most people don't commit suicide after getting a life sentence
Lol
Very standard perspective bud
I can't express how much I appreciate the subtitles!! Transcripting everything and then editing it in is a lot of work but it sets you far ahead from other channels alike. Keep it up!
Agreed!! I love the subtitles. So appreciative of them especially when they mumble.
It's so nice not having to rely on the automatically generated subtitles, which are often inaccurate or missing sections entirely.
Indeed it is...the dedication is appreciated, I noticed that too
Indeed. I often skip many of these interrogation videos because it's simply to shitty quality to hear everything they're talking about properly.. So huge kudos for the subtitles!
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I understand that ultimately the actual murderer is at fault. But what kind of people abandon their drunken friend without her phone or belongings or even a way home?
Unfortunately too many people, I've seen it far too many times and usually it's drunk women being abandoned by their friends more so than it is men.
The sad truth is that a drunk guy being abandoned by his friends can usually turn into a funny story about his story of survival but when a drunk woman gets abandoned it can quickly turn into a horror story for them.
They tried not their fault Chelsea chose to stay and a monster exploited her choice not her friends fault
@@stephenfowlie742 What? Men can get robbed or murdered too
Party scene is full of the fakest and shittiest “friends” you’ll ever see I’ve seen it happen so much
@@sb6675 I don't deny that for one second, I myself have been jumped for no reason in the past and other occasions have had to fight to defend myself and others.
The point I was trying to make is that guys can generally survive a night of being drunk and alone in the city due to us being a less appealing target.
How many times have you seen a one or two men all over a drunk female in the street, harassing them or trying to get them into a car or taxi?
Then compare that to how times you have seen those roles reversed...That's the difference.
The video editing of this video is much better than any other one I've seen. You should continue this style of editing, it's fantastic.
So funny to see how the body language of lying also applies to the cop every time he's saying: "I'm not trying to trick you" 😁
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Except the cop is trying to determine the killer not that he is the actual killer!
@@kathleenoverton3263 this time maybe
"I don't get drunk" *You're dna was on her* .." I was wasted"
Right?!? 😂
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i think he meant he doesnt have the ability to get drunk
Life is a lot simpler when you are not evil.
And on top of that he thinks he’s god gift to women. Dude probably has an IQ of 60.
I’m not evil & life at times has not always been simple
@@1927suLife would be way less simple if you were under investigation for murder :D
Or a drunken moron who refuses to listen to your friends
Probably, yeah
"Its not my fault I was drunk" is something I will never accept from anyone ever.
Me either! And the "I don't remember bc I was drunk" is usually a lie.
You notice how few thumbs up your comment has received? That, as much as anything, shows how far this society has collapsed.
@@perseus9428 60 is alright. This is an old video.
"it's not my fault I got raped I was drunk." This is why we shouldn't always use absolutes.
@@perseus9428 people have been getting drunk and viewing it as an acceptable and occasional side effect for a long time. I'm guessing you're above the age of 50 or so, and think society is objectively getting worse and suffering a moral decline. That would not be viewed as a valid excuse in the current day. And people not giving it a like is not an indication of anything. All it indicates is that people didn't stop to click. It's not that deep.
He has the audacity to call someone ugly.
Right? FU dude you are a murderer who will die in jail. I get that he would try to lie but to say less than complementary things about the , beautiful by the way, young woman you raped and murdered is a true testimony to the fact that he's a scumbag. I know why they did it by I hate that the interrogators went with the , 'she was promiscuous', tactic. It's just a sad case.
Right?
Hava
Yea he thinks he’s Gods gift to women it’s like don’t think so dude
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The more I watch interviews like this, the more I realize, guilty or innocent, never talk to police without an attorney.
Yes, the police are not your friend. They aren’t on your side. They won’t help you. No matter how friendly and sympathetic they seem they only want a confession. Tell them nothing, not one thing. I can’t believe how much people talk when interrogated with no lawyer. Must be crazy.
But gotta hand it to LE in these interrogations. They know just the right buttons to push and just how hard to push them.
I was just thinking this
why do they need an attorney??
@@sketch_2193 because its very easy to be also tricked into false confessions
Leaving your intoxicated friend alone at the party, no phone,no car. It's a crime too. Such friends she had
The fact that her friends left her alone at the party with no phone or no way home is beyond me. I could never forgive myself if I was one of her friends who left, this whole case is so sad wow.
"friends"
She was a stupid woman that wanted to stay and party. Her friends couldn’t get her to leave. You can’t fix stupid. She is not a little child. He is the one they think killed her. But, you can’t fix stupid. Thus when she stumbled on to a killer she was killed. Stop acting like your friends can or should fix stupid.
You can’t make a person leave… the friend came back to give her her stuff and she was bo where to be found partying.. they asked her several times she refused and was a grown woman. It’s sad how it turned out but it’s not their fault. I know they feel some guilt but they couldn’t get flack for this
They literally tried to take her home, and she refused. They even tried to give her back her stuff.there was only so much that they could do
I'd never leave my friends without them I'd have stayed
As pointed out in the video, when talking about what he would’ve done if he had ‘known’ she was still alive, he slips up and says, “I would’ve let her go.” And that really just says it all.
Right at the end they mention another case hes under investigation for "you took her back to ur gfs trailer, you showered together, she asked you to stop but you didnt stop"
Yep so glad this trash is behind bars. He can not get let go by Buba.
BBlake17 I'm also weirded out by the women he was hooking up with... what sort of nutjob likes being choked or beaten during sex??
😮😮😮 wow
The pits.Horrible Person so full of himself.
If you're out with friends, please don't leave a comrade behind. I know it might be inconvenient if someone is adamant about staying out but it's better than possibly losing that person to predators like this piece of shit.
yes, OR the person could be this predator going to sneak away and commit horrid acts!
you're absolutely right. this happens way too much. they're out having a good time and someone wants to leave but someone else wants to stay. If you arrive together then you should leave together or have some kind of plan to ensure the everyone gets home safe.
My friend took my car and left me at a club!! I was 22yrs old and didn't go out much. Luckily my best friend was home and went across town to save me at 2a.m after that experience I was always the designated driver.
the amount of times people left me at clubs and parties in my late teens and early 20s is exactly why I don't go out anymore lmao people can be so fucking selfish it's ridiculous, i'm incredibly lucky that I was never killed honestly.
My friend is still haunted 15 years later because she and a group of friends brough a Dutch, mostly deaf exchange student with them to a rave out in the desert, and the girl got separated because her other friend who said she would stay with her, is a big bad gangsta and was busy drinking and doing drugs, and they left without her because no one could find her, and she was never seen again as far as she knows. She has to live with that knowledge for the rest of her life now.
I appreciate the way the narrator explains what the detectives are building up towards. It's similar to when I've read mystery books.
I'm glad you did this one. Went to school with this guy and when they caught him he lived about 500 feet from me .
Side note: that sketch looked JUST like this other kid from our town. Poor kid was questioned and accused. And the guy who threw the party was accused alot too and he is seriously so nice and didn't deserve it, he was judged based solely on appearance and music ect.
Has he always thought he was this “ladies man” where he can pull as many girls as he claims? Most guys that act like him usually with hit on everything with a vagina and take whatever they can get to sound like a player. They choose quantity over quality but I doubt he gets much action, the way he talks to women like things he can fuck.
he seems like a real pos even outside of being a murderer. i’m glad they put him away.
@@maddykattt2827 definitely!
@@dfc41 I'm a dude and can easily say, any guy who talks like he's a gift from god to women is trash. I had a buddy who thought he was the shit by sleeping with every girl he could and then would make fun of them afterwards, he would talk about every detail, and would even try to show pictures of them naked to anyone who would look & listen to him. Long story short, he is in prison for assault & rape.
My nephew, his gf & child lived in that same apartment bldg & actually met this creep. He said he was definitely this type of narcissistic character & didnt trust him but got vibes n ig he showed up at his door once wen only his gf was home n after learning wat he did to Chelsea, tripped him out! My nephew hung out with this creep right in his livingroom @his child!!! As i watch some of these, i think of my younger self & just smh cuz i wonder how many times my guardian angel put in some O.T.
As a female myself, when my friends leave, I leave. Drilled into my brain from first play date as a child. There will always be monsters and they’re amongst us, some of them are hard to identify so one must protect oneself vigilantly.
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@@yourbiggestfan395 I’m old school….😅
Sadly we never expected a serious cold killer to be in our town.. we all (as a town) knew he was weird, but we have girls like Chelsea, who was the sweetest soul in the world, who makes everyone to be good. No matter what. I wish he got the death sentence.. but our town does not do that..
So women are at a natural disadvantage?
@@fmcdomer More or less. However, there are men / boys who gets roofied, then get raped or robbed and maybe killed as well, just not as many as women in these sort of crime. You don’t agree?
1:20:28 "if that was my daughter" are you kidding me? men like him do not view women as independent human beings unless part of them is attached to them or they "own" them in a way, i.e. daughter or wife. what a pathetic and awful person. rest in peace, Chelsea.
Exactly right
Well we aren’t even women! Just ‘hot chicks’, ‘ugly chicks’, ‘fat chicks’ or his ‘baby mama’. He’s so disgusting 🤮, and clearly has no respect for women. It’s like he sees women as his playthings, and once he’s bored of them he just discards and moves on to the next one 🥴
Well they aren't lol
@@___meph___4547 💀
Son and husband! How dare we have these labels! 🤡
Okay I’ve seen repeat videos over the years but you’re always my fave because I absolutely love the voice
For me I love how they break down the tactics and skills police use to get information. So fascinating.
I love how he asked for a lawyer like 5 times but still kept talking every time, amazing. Glad he kept talking though, man got what he deserved.
Yup. The cops can keep asking you questions. It's up to YOU to invoke your 5th amendment and say nothing else until you have an attorney you trust has your criminal defense as their first priority.
@@youtubecommenter2527 this is not true, police are required to stop asking questions after suspect asks for an attorney, unless they state they are in fact willing to talk without one.
@@fynntotalwar1672not true, they dont have to stop asking questions until you stop cooperating
@@bogwitch2 cant post links here but just google it, police are required to stop an interrogation once you request a lawyer, unless you waive your rights
@@bogwitch2you're wrong. They have to stop asking. But you have to ask for a lawyer the right way, which is ridiculous. Any mention of a lawyer should halt the interview.
He was worried about "10, 20, 30 years", but got life without parole. That had to hurt. 😂
A LOT 🤪😯
if he shut up and used a lawyer early on I am sure he would have gotten something along those lines
Sadly not as much as Chelsea and her family
So the cops ARE lying when they say that it will make him look better to th jury. Jury doesn't REALLY care if you confessed, at least not in the sense of reducing sentencing for it
@cboom3205 yeah, those are detectives - beyond collective evidence they don't have influence in court proceedings.
Separate branches of government and all.
I get the guy is guilty but damn when the cops say you don't need an attorney, you absolutely need an attorney
Pretty sure they mean ur screwed regardless
Absolutely. Never talk to the cops without at the bare minimum, a consultation with a lawyer.
I know it’s not a laughing matter but I find it funny how the suspect actually changes his story so unbelievably through the interview from not seeing her and being sober to being wasted and having sex with her and they think that people will believe the story
To be fair, this happens occasionally in innocent interrogation subjects, too. Not knowing whether something you think is truly insignificant could be seen by the police as incriminating and end up putting you away for decades, fear alone could get you to cut corners in your story only to scramble when it's seen through or when your own anxiety makes you crack
@@bradlasalle2888 cite a case colombo
@@ophiolatreia93 I'd have to go through the innocent confessions I know to see specifically when/if they do in that particular one. Instead, google this article on it by the Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law: "False Confessions: Causes, Consequences, and Implications". It's pretty long but you can skip around to parts on innocent subjects recanting their alibis, and sometimes changing their story completely due to the stress of being interrogated and psychologically manipulated during said interrogation.
I was thinking the same thing. Those cops must've had at least a little fun batting this guy around and getting him to change his story DRASTICALLY. I lost it when he's like "oh wait no, it wasn't my baby mamas car, it was my roommates!"
he said about 400 times “i won’t lie” then proceeded to lie again and again
How this channel changed over the last year is unbelievable. Keep up the great work guys you are awesome!
This cant be real life….. i never would have thought i would have seen another upload from you guys this soon after recently uploading.. most depressing part is when u guys post a video, i know we wont get 1 for a month but DAMN we all got so lucky… and i get why it takes so long cause the work u guys put into your videos it literally can not be any better and u guys cover it ALL…
You guys are the best out there… cant wait to watch this later
i could not have written that any better totally agrre with you
They probably have a back log of videos.
Sometimes I think I’m in a simulation because when I do something all of a sudden it’s all over TH-cam for example I researched a word and all of a sudden when I watch TH-cam people are now saying the word I researched despite nto saying it till I researched it also
@@puzzlemagnet1957 u need to go rude
@Ichigo what’s gang stalking
I like the fact that he said he wanted to talk to his mom and girlfriend and tell them man to man hes going to jail 😂😂
I caught that as well 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My dad was a detective. He passed a few years ago, but he would have found this channel really interesting! I miss him so much. ♡
I miss mine too man. Hang in there. Takes time.
My condolences
Sounds like a great dad. 💜
You are lucky to have had a good dad:)
May he Rest In Peace.
Never ever leave your friends behind especially if they’re drunk
Cover ur drinks ppl.
Never ever get drunk .
@@perseus9428 300 iq
Don't count on anyone else to take care of you.
100 times yes! Never leave friends behind male or female surround yourself with people who will do the same for you!
How none of these criminals ever immediately say “I want a lawyer” early into these is beyond me.
We don't get an interesting video on the ones who do.
@@shawer12345 regardless of the video, these people are dumb lol.
Maybe that makes awful video material?
They think they're smart
@maltheri9833that what gets em everytime. Trying to be slick and get more information out of a detective than they give in return. Wanna know what the police know, let your lawyer find out 😂 Ive watched tons of these and its mindblowing how many wouldve probably walked or gotten a decade instead of life id they just get a public defender theyd be infinitely better off.
You guys are awesome at what you do, every afterschool I come home to watch your content, so far the qualified team doing the research and the narrator for these videos are incredible. Thanks for sharing!
He’s so repulsive. Happily beats to death a vulnerable victim and god knows what other victims he has but is “literally like” having a panic attack and needs water. Such a weak pathetic man. Just throw away the key.
Ive been binge watching these (y’all are amazing) - but damn, this is the first one to truly enrage me. Mainly at the end, because this man child literally said “my life is ruined too” when asked what to say to a grieving family. People like this guy are the reason I’ve lost so much faith in our species. Ugh. I’m so, so sorry Chelsea. You deserved so much better.
You know, I read this comment and I was with you. Then I started to think about and really, this one guy isn't the rule, he and people like him are the exception. It's the detectives, friends, family and strangers who came out to find her and get her justice who are the examples of humanity I choose to use. Though this guy is the focus of the video, he's not the most important person in the story. Don't let his ilk poison your faith in the good people out there just because there are some bad.
@@Brand64730 never underestimate the shitty ones
@@Brand64730 Exactly. If these people weren't the rare exception to the rule, we wouldn't be here watching this video. It's entertaining _because_ these people aren't normal and we're getting a glimpse into their minds. Most people are generally good and that's just a statistical fact.
If society ever falls most of you will probably turn into raiders.
@@gravesidepoet5405 Raiders, rapers, same difference.
Always surprises me when suspects don't insist on getting an attorney. Especially when they know they are guilty. Must be the narcissism, thinking they can outwit the interrogator.
In this case; it twas curiosity that killed the narcissist - he wanted to know what they had on him.
”Especially when they know that they're guilty?” 😂 They know that no attorney will go up to bat for their made up BS, why else wouldn't they consult an attorney? LOL 🤔😂🤷♀️
Good point though, that's 1 good dead give away.
@@velvetpixiecake5310 I dunno how to tell you this, man, but attorneys defend clearly guilty people all the time.
@@velvetpixiecake5310 goofy ahh emojis
@@velvetpixiecake5310 Oh there's many that would LOVE to defend a scumbag like this. It's a challenge. It's a way to show how good they are to themselves and others. Imagine they get a clearly guilty defendant to walk free. That is a HUGE advertisement! Now they can show future clients that they are good and worth the money they charge. Trust me, there's a lot of sick attorneys out there that only care about winning even if it means helping a killer get off. To be clear though there's also many attorneys who still do the right thing and will only defend them to the extent that their rights are respected.
I love this channel and was excited (for lack of a better word) to see this case from my home town! My husband is related to the detective on the case.
Whenever a cop says, "I'm not going to lie to you." "I am being straight up with you," it basically means the opposite
@@That-Ninja Wtf dude 🤣🤣
@@That-Ninja bruh
@@That-Ninja AYO?
@@That-Ninja so much to unpack right here.
why are people so dumb to talk to police?
I'm literally terrified of ever being taken into an interrogation, even if I'm completely innocent. I have such crippling social anxiety and I'd be so focused on trying to look and sound innocent that I'd likely end up doing the exact opposite
Get a lawyer and youll be good
Good thing you're a furry and thus will never leave your basement
Don't ever speak to the police without a lawyer. You're legally allowed to say "no comment" to every question they ask you in an interrogation. I've done it myself after an unlawful arrest for protesting, I was advised to do so, was then taken to court where the judge dismissed the case (because I did nothing wrong). Dont be scared ❤️
I feel the same! Watching videos like this has taught me to plead the 5th unless I have a lawyer. So if they ever do take you in, you know step one (:
@@anima6035 maybe he's not american; ever think of that? Most humans aren't americans.
"What about ME? You think she's had it bad this past year and a half? I had to deal with the weight of killing her!" Wow. Just wow.
And the policemen said "she dead" I think he actually meant her mother, when he said that, but that's just as horrible.
He really doesn't care about other people
Exactly he is a monster
"Just get my jumpsuit and get me to a bunk you can talk to my attorney." I've watched a lot of interrogations and have really grown to admire the detectives saavy in what they do.
This is it, the formula. This narrator, this style, and you guys will own all of True Crime TH-cam unquestioned. You have attained JCS level greatness here
If you’re innocent get your lawyer asap, if you’re guilty just talk, you got this bro👍
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I absolutely read this backwards and was about to cuss you out 😂
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i thought if you ask for a lawyer you look more guilty
@@TaniaAlemide Ultimately you're not proven guilty on what the police think about you, but rather what evidence they have, they can be 100% sure you're the culprit but if there's no evidence there's no way for you to get convicted. If you talk you may be able to make the police think you're not the culprit (potentially turning their attention elsewhere), but anything you've said could be used to build a case against you if they decide you're most likely the culprit, and that's the best case, in the worst case you could (and very likely would) make yourself look more guilty. If you however choose to lawyer up then you may look more guilty, but there's no way for you to accidentally incriminate yourself.
I lived close to this incident. I remember her poor mom on TV pleading for information. I'm so glad they finally got the murderer.
my mom lived in frenchtown villas 3 trailers down from where he was picked up on the same street. crazy stuff
Now if they'd just end his worthless life instead letting us taxpayers foot the bill while he gets to live.
This is what Netflix should model their Crime Docs off of. Great work. No BS Hollywood here! Good job EWU 🎉
It really is baffling to me how many guilty people will just agree to talk to police without a lawyer. I've always been told that even if you are 100% innocent you should never talk to police without a lawyer. But I guess a lot of the criminals featured in this aren't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
When you are guilty you know that asking for a lawyer will make you look more guilty so they try to see as unsuspicious as possible!
@@ResinateByChanel no it doesnt. They think it does because they’re not very smart and are easily manipulated by the police
@@ResinateByChanel Asking for a lawyer doesn't make you look guilty, everyone should ask for a lawyer. It's also not admissable in court to use "he asked for a lawyer" as evidence.
This guy seems easily manipulated. Three times he mentions a lawyer and each time he is talked out of it. While I find that police work rather unethical, it's probably still within the law, and he should have known better having been arrested before.
@@nickh944 the right is to remain silent.
This entire interrogation:
“I was tipsy but I don’t get drunk.”
“I was drunk”
“No no I wasn’t fked up! I remember!”
“I don’t know i was fked up I was so drunk!”
“I wasn’t fked though!”
“I was so drunk I’m not sure”
“I was fine enough to drive I obviously got home safely”
Oh my god. If he wasn’t such a POS it would be funny.
Also wow, his pity party about how it hasn’t just been “about her” but how he’s had a tough year and a half blah blah… absolutely revolting.
Yeah i hope this subhuman remains in jail for the rest of his life.
I dont get drunk i think I heard him say at the beginning. 99% of what came out of his mouth was BS.... A boy in a man's body.
Detectives pressure questions on him about her being in the car
"No. No. No. No. No. No."
I was falsely accused of murder at 16. I can remember the interrogation like it was yesterday. They were using all these techniques but they were also saying that I did it. It was the scariest moment in my life. I thought I was going down for something I didn't do. This kids death was so brutal and morbid that I still have night terrors regarding it.
Get your footage on here everyone wants an innocent interrogation
@@sparks9941 I'll try. I don't know if they save them this long. I'm 43 now. Actually you think they would because the case is still cold.
I'm sorry you went through that. How traumatizing.
how did people find out about it? did the authorities publicize it or something? regardless, that’s wrong on so many levels. the fact that you were only 16 makes matters worse..really bothers me when people can’t accept someone’s innocence, (when they’ve 100% been ruled out as a suspect/the perpetrator & w/ proof on hand)
really hope you’re doing okay. i can’t imagine that level of trauma. be well man!
@@jordanmutebi I'll try to find the podcast where I give all the details and we try and solve the case. I believe there are 4 hour long podcasts that I was involved in to try and clear up all theories and what not.
These interrogation tapes are way too addictive,2 hours I’ll never get back but it’s impossible to stop watching
Ive watched plenty of these and one thing all these people seem to have in common is no empathy for their victim, only that they destroyed their own life. Very sad.
There was one who was sorry for the victim, the chef guy i cant remember it too well
If they cared about the victim they wouldnt have done it so that makes perfect sense.
@@MileMarker492 they cared enough to actually mourn their death. Of course shouldn't have been gotten that far.
If anyone ever cared for the person they were going to kill they wouldn’t kill them…..
I hope, that prison justice finds him...
"I'm going to have a panic attack and I think I might cry. May I please have a cigarette and some water?" What about Chelsea? You didn't care that she was in horrific distress and dying! The audacity of these monsters.
Exactly my thoughts. I had to roll my eyes when I heard that.
Like Oh no, you're having a panic attack because you're being questioned about that girl that you took advantage of, and then you brutally murdered her (which most likely caused her immense suffering and fear before she finally stopped feeling anything), hid her body and left her to decompose, all the while her loved ones were going through terrible pain not knowing where she is and what happened to her?! Even though you could've just walked away without hurting her?! Poor you! I feel soooo sorry for you experiencing anxiety!
That guy is a waste of space and oxygen.
I'm sorry but, they are in their *
fucking drama queen xD
I love how the cops say "we're telling you the truth etc" and the lying criminal believes them.
right? As soon as the one guy said "we've been honest with you but have you been honest with us?" I was like "Hah, I can't believe that really works"
@@phoenixmerridian9119 criminal psychology really is something else
They are like, "How did your DNA get on her".. He's like, "I don't know she went to any hotel in my hometown"..
This is probably the first video of this kind that I've seen where the cops actually WERE telling the truth about what they had. Usually they bluff a lot more, these guys cut to the chase pretty quickly:"Hey, we've got your DNA, I'll show you the results."
The cop doing most of the talking saying“I’m not trying to trick you “ repeatedly when he was constantly trying to trick him.
I cross my ankles when I sit too… must be a sign of my guilt and nervousness 😂
Police it's on their way...
i stutter, guess i am nervous and is trying to give myself time to figure out the story i want to say
One bit stood out for me.. When he was in his second interview and mentioned running from the cops.. He said he stopped after fifty feet.. The detective asks him if he realized the cops were faster.. He immediately says 'No, it wasn't that.. I was outrunning the cops, I was gonna get away and just decided to stop..'
Even in this little tiny non eventful story, he couldn't imagine someone else thinking he wasn't the hero of the story.. he couldn't bear someone he doesn't know and will never see again thinking he couldn't outrun another man.. Narcissism at it's absolute worst.
yeah its sinilar to how, when discussing carrying her body, he says ‘im not that big of a beast.’ In one of his pics he is wearing a shirt that says ‘beast’ on it. Clearly he has a completely warped perception of himself and it’s noticeable in seemingly innocuous comments like that.
I noticed this too.
Imas much as I think there’s some truth to your comment, I’d like to point out that on the contrary, when others say something false about you, you usually correct them. So in an event of telling a story and the other person doesn’t understand the concept of the story, they will correct that person. Just food for thought.
How that detective held it together in those last moments when Daniel was being whiny and spouting “poor me” is utterly amazing. I could never.
I lost it when the detective brought up the other possible rape case and Daniel went "which one?" Like tf?!
@@youtopea utterly vile, this guy was a predator.
@@youtopea He's beyond disgusting for saying that 💀
@@majesty308 lmao that was hilarious tbh
dude a monster while these women seem to appreciate playing russian roulette, what a combination
the detectives know that any mistake can result in the interrogation becoming inadmissible in court. there are very strict laws that they must abide by. precisely by not acting out on their feelings the cops ensure that this interrogation will pass as valid evidence in court, which in turn will result in the killer staying behind bars for the rest of his life.
As a person with hearing loss, these subtitles are my saving grace! I'd be pretty lost without them, so thank you for all the effort that goes into them, it doesn't go unnoticed
very cool that you can hear thus stuff you're into.
The education on this channel is unmatched 💯💯💯💯
Did anyone else notice the way he had to stop himself from saying " I've had to live with this my whole....life" and how he reacted when they said they knew about another girl..... and how relieved he was when he realised it wasn't who he had in mind. Imo he'd seriously attacked at least one other girl and quite possibly murdered her. I'd have a very close look into if there had been any missing younger woman in that area within 5 years of that attack, especially with any connection to him. And if the body was found with ligature or strangulation marks and or signs of sexual interference or rape. I'm glad he's now off the streets and apparently for good.
It'd be really great if someone could time stamp that
@@luvmenow33 1:38:00 ish onwards. The 'other girl' is about a minute later.
There are no doubt more of his victims out there alive or doubt. He is a psychopath.
Pretty sure they have. I'm sure they charged him with a scroll of charges even involving other victims but they only have so much time for just that interrogation.
Yes, I reckon he'd definitely have killed again if he got away with it and could have become a seriel killer.
I've seen this case on several channels but the way you broke it down and showed the interrogation was absolutely awesome.
As someone who was interrogated for a possible attempted murder love triangle, I was a blithering mess !!! And the theories they came up with were WILD!!!! Our cousin was robbed and stabbed , almost to death, my husband and I saved him. He died 6 times !! Once in my arms . He went into a coma , thank God he woke up and told them the truth . Scariest thing ever !
Geesh thank god what an awful experience glad ur cousin survived
They just keep trying to connect dots that don't exist it's how innocent people get convicted. I'm pro police but they have too much authority and not enough repercussions for breaking the law they are supposed to uphold. The brotherhood mentality is basically a mental illness within the police force too. They need redefined structure for accurate outcomes.
I bet you aren't as quick to judge people as you were before that experience though. So at least you learned something. We grow with every experience.
@@fluffylittlebear what the fuck kind of takeaway is this? They went through a horrible situation and all you can think to say is "oh but youre probably less shallow now at least!"?
I totally agree with you, those theories have been getting worse every episode!
After binging these videos for the past week
Suspect: breaths
Narrator: this may not always be, but can be a sign of guilt
When you’re being interrogated for a crime while in prison stripes for a totally different crime, you know you haven’t made the best choices in life… 😐
He was in jail for not paying child support. Ohio & Michigan will arrest/jail you for non payment. Ohio will pay it to the custodial parent so the kids don't do without & then bill the other parent for it. Like a tax lien haunting you forever. I had an uncle with kids in their 30s & he still owed the state when he died at 60.
@@emeraldblue5291 It's definitely ridiculous that they keep it going that long, but I think it's good that they genuinely hold people accountable.
u shud have helped ur uncle and paid the bill off @@emeraldblue5291
@@emeraldblue5291Most states arrest you for being behind on child support, it’s pretty sad.
@@Sammypbeats Kids not being able to eat is even more sad.
This is quickly becoming my favourite TH-cam channel. So well put together. Thank you!
Probably the best duo of interrogators. Really in sync. "The bad cop" jumped in at the perfect times.
It’s so cool because Detective Sroka was the lead investigator, and his attention to detail kept the investigation going. And then Detective Preadmore led the interrogation
the science of studying how someone's body movements betray what they are actually thinking is so fascinating. lots of smart people have obviously spent many years interrogating bad guys to learn how to apply stuff like this.
I agree. The guy puts a huge amount of effort into adding that value to the channel and he mostly just gets a bunch of comments from people who seem to think it's a bunch of silliness. They do it because it works, better than doing nothing.
Hearing the words 'life without parole' really warmed my heart, I hope he hates every single day in jail.
I was kinda surprised he got first degree, but I get it - he clearly didn't really care if that girl was dead or alive and these interrogations didn't change that, it's better for society to keep that guy in the slammer. I bet prosecution played up those facial fractures as the dude literally smashing her head against the vehicle or something, that's actually a thing I kind of understood - you take the biggest log first to cover up the body, line it up between the legs and tip over after which it falls straight on the face. I bet he thought to himself "nice", but his celebration was cut short by her deathrattle. Horrible man, 10/10 sentencing.
i wish any act or degree of a charge for pedophiles should be 50-100 years with parole after 55😢
@@penwyd Was that girl underage? I don't recall hearing a number.
@@Illlium she was 21 I believe?
@@Seraphyl333 I don't feel like it should matter all that much, but I guess it all depends what's he gonna have in his walking papers. A rep might look at that and think "21? Nice. Let me hear it Joey".
Always ask for a lawyer. Imagine being the wrong person in custody, dealing with these detectives grilling you.
True; but, this is what happens when they think they're the smartest person in the room.
@Socucius Ergalla which is a bit right but still better than doing without an attorney
The trick is to do both
For further reading, get a copy of "You Have The Right To Remain Innocent" by James Duane. It's a fast and easy read, as well as a very informative one.
In the meantime, never date an investigator, I guess.
Imagine coming back from the store WITHOUT the half gallon of milk you originally went there for. heh heh ...
Having said all this (in a feeble attempt at humor), yeah, this POS is why we have investigators!
@@angrycat3525 I already have it, and watched his video
The part when he said "which girl?" towards the end really shows you the kind of human being he really is.
It also makes me wonder if he's ever killed any other girls/women 🥺
@@tandiparent1906 I really hope not but I’m glad he’s behind bars where he can get a taste of being treated harshly.
And if he wasn't caught, there would have been more. Total predator with no conscience
He seems to me like he may be a serial rapist if not in the process of becoming a serial murderer if he’s already killed another girl before being locked up well he may just get raped in jail himself and then he can worry about himself some more🙄
Makes ya wonder ? How many
This channel is better than netflix!
Herpes is better than Netflix.
@@justforever96 at least you can cancel Netflix.
First off, this guy is a monster. Second off, this video is a good example of why you never, ever, talk to a cop in an interrogation, even if you are innocent. They can lie and say whatever they like to manipulate you, and the way he got him to get away from talking to a lawyer multiple times was masterful interrogation skills.
@Cristo Alba yeah, cops are allowed to lie, but THAT particular lie … I really feel like that’s grounds for an appeal to throw out the rest of the confession from that point on … telling someone they can’t have a lawyer at that moment, when untrue, definitely I feel like on appeal that could and should be a major sticking point. My issue is that if someone is innocent, and they do this, but feed them stuff after to get them to say things, basically putting words in their mouths … that’s how innocent people end up in prison. Not saying this guy is innocent, but this happens to actual innocent people because the police are convinced they have the right guy - that’s not for them to decide, it’s for the court - he blatantly asked for a lawyer at that point. They should have stopped and called one in, not lied and said they couldn’t get one.
I agree
@@odalisalvarez8903 yea me too. I think you'd definitely have a decent argument. Probably wouldn't work but worth a shot id say.
Every time I watch one of these videos I’m absolutely amazed that none of them ask for a lawyer and when they do they eventually get manipulated back in to talking. Obviously in the situation of guilty people for serious, violent crimes, I’m glad on the one hand. But everyone else… it’s depressing
@@heather23renae I couldn't agree with you more..
I love the subtitles. Your channel's subtitles have always been on point, but I love the subtitles sitting next to the speakers in the room. I think that's new with this video, but if it's not, it makes the interrogation analysis and breakdown so much easier to understand. This channel's production quality is top notch, and it's tiny optimizations like that that make us viewers aware that you continue to improve the quality and user-friendliness of each video. Truly love this channel.
Yeah. The sub make me feel like reading a comic.
When he said "I would've let her go" it made my hairs stand on end. That one phrase added a whole new dimension to the crime. Was Chelsea actively trying to escape from the car? Makes me want to go check my doors are locked when I'm reminded of people like this.
My guess I feel almost certain that he offered Chelsea a ride home and then demanded sex, and then got mean and angry at her refusals. That's why he said "let her go" he wouldn't let her out of the car. And then his comments about CeCe who was accusing him of rape....he's claiming she's mad because he ditched her after sex, when it really seems like a date rape scenario, where she went out with him, and didn't want to do it on the first date which......that kind of scenario has probably gone through the roof with dating aps. 🤢And then there's the third accuser Charlie whom he says "I know she was saying some shit. ie...another date rape." 🤮 I think with Chelsea he may have decided with her he couldn't say "Oh we went on a date she's just mad I pumped and dumped" like he was suggesting about Charlie and CeCe whom he thought proof of their agreeing to go out with him on their phones would be proof it wasn't rape (because he's a rapist dumbass). He thought he could do that with both Charlie and CeCe but with Chelsea he just offered her a ride home and he violently ripped her costume, and there would be nothing on her phone saying she liked him etc... so he killed her thinking he could cover her rape up and no one would be able to connect the dots. Duh.
and don't get drunk, have sex with a stranger, then get into his car!
Yeah. It made me think that he forced himself upon her, and she was trying to escape. Maybe she managed to escape, but being so drunk she didn't get far enough... And so he killed her.
It also makes me think that this wasn't the first time. The shower story seemed to point to that too. I think he forced himself upon a lot of women, it's just that the others managed to get out alive, or maybe there are some who didn't, but they haven't been found yet...
It's really creepy to think that people like him walk among us. You could be interacting with one, they could be planning to do something horrible to you as they smile in your face, and you have no idea...
Detective: I’m not hiding anything from you, but let me tell you what I’m hiding from you.
That detective ABSOLUTELY KNEW that it was skin the entire time… the ‘error’ of saying it was semen was intentional to get him to admit to the sex with her; pretty sly/genius.
sly as a fox!
@@mappingthevoid And he shouldnt have murdered that poor woman, the police lying made him spill the truth
@@mappingthevoid well don’t commit any crimes and always ask for a lawyer then it won’t matter if the police lie to you. Their ability to lie has helped them catch many stupid criminals I don’t see the issue.
@@mappingthevoid you really care about the police lying to a dude like this?
Think about it.
IF YOU WERE INNOCENT OF ANY CRIME THE STUPID LIES THEY SAY WOULD AMOUNT TO NOTHING.
So there should honestly be no type of feelings toward cops lying to catch a dude like this. Unless you are one.
@@mappingthevoid you are right. They get people confessing to crimes they never committed. There are too many innocent people in jail.