If This Is Just Ninja Gaiden, Then Where's Ninja Main Story? | Ranking the NES, Episode 29
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- They say never start the show with a showstopper, but that's precisely how it's going this week as we finally get Ninja Gaiden onto the list. Also, uh, Jurassic Park, Casino Kid... Treasure Master? Wario's Woods, hey! Weird week. It still smells bad in here, let's rank some games!
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:11:47 - Ninja Gaiden
00:57:15 - The Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout
01:23:23 - Wario's Woods
01:45:55 - Jurassic Park
02:08:49 - Casino Kid
02:35:40 - Treasure Master - เกม
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I cannot get enough of the Treasure Master walk cycle. Incredible stuff.
I like the music too!
The Treasure Master walk cycle is the craziest thing I've seen in ages. How did they decide on that.
This literally makes my Fridays. I am looking forward to him getting to The Guardian Legend.
Me too! I’m really looking forward to what the science says about my Rose-tinted childhood nostalgia. But come on, lady turning into a ship CAN’T be bad!
I’ve been waiting for that too! That was the one weird game I had that nobody else had in my little group back then
TGL and Kickle Cubicle were the games that came bundled with my NES back in the days (instead of Mario and Duck Hunt) and I still love and re-play both of them nowdays.
TGL is one of the main reasons why Shmups is one of my favorite genre.
"TGL" is also the password if you want to play only the shmups levels in the game.
@@fredriksahlstenglimmevi3259 I was actually just playing it the other day and jumped right in after years of not playing still feels and looks great. This game absolutely deserves a rerelease.
As a kid drawing ninjas in the 80s, that single lit cheek of Ryu's in cut scenes was a huge influence. The cut scenes in general might be the first non-robot-y anime I was exposed to back then. The music also got me started recording game audio (you know, via the vcr to your stereo's tape deck.)
I love the way Treasure Master walks. Dude's got a strut
Treasure Master's main character has one of my favorite walk cycles on the NES
The skank strut, the cheerleader jump, and the dry hump rope climbing animations. Truly a wonder to behold.
Came here to express this exact sentiment. I love it!
The best part about Ninja Gaiden's checkpoint system is that for whatever reason the final boss throws it all out the window. You lost all your lives on 4-4 the boss stage, and started at 4-3. You die or lose your lives on 6-3 you start on 6-3. You die even a single time against any of the three final bosses you start at 6-1. They apparently knew about the bug, but decided to keep it as a feature.
19:44 is largely why I love Ninja Gaiden. Few games on the NES were quite so satisfying in how swiftly you dispatch enemies compounded with that sound and visual. Even breaking open containers is satisfying. It just gets so many little effects right.
A couple thoughts after watching this:
1:06:50 For all the things wrong with Bugs Bunny's Birthday Blowout, I was impressed it had a 3D spinning pause indicator.
The music in Casino Kid during the matches was headache inducing, but that shuffle(?) sound effect was even worse. It sounded like a bug flapping its wings and was really unnerving.
Treasure Master going out on an adventure with his neon green biking cap, perpetually dopey smile, cocky strut and machine gun-like shin kicks had me grinning like an idiot the whole time he was on screen.
I first played Wario's Woods inside of the GameCube Animal Crossing. Sometime after Tetris released, I started thinking it would be cool to have a puzzle game in which you played as a little dude within the play-field, and sure enough, I wound up digging the hell out of Wario's Woods. You're 100% right about it. It has some stuff, but it has a learning curve, and getting used to Toad's inertia is part of that. Pretty much everyone I've shown it to reacted the way you did: they respected it, but couldn't get into it.
love the Ninja Gaiden retro achievement for the flip attack in honor to Arcus:
a Good "Bzzzt"
Man, I really liked that bugs bunny game when I was 6 😂😂😂
that Jurassic Park game is quintessentially British. Not only do you need to collect things, but the whole game revolves around eggs.
I think I've been playing Ninja Gaiden since I was a child and the funniest thing to me is your life bar. You die a million times playing this game and maybe 3 times its because you ran out of life.
Can you imagine going from playing Wario's Woods in '94 and then you buy a Playstation in '95 and you pop in Battle Arena Toshinden?
That could potentially destroy you.
One of the things Ninja Gaiden is known for is the huge difficulty leap in stage 6. There's one bird that will kill you many, many times.
The Ninja Gaiden OST is just so good
Ninja Gaiden is the best NES OST of all time and it's not even close.
Ninja Gaiden 2 OST is pretty close to it
I’m really looking forward to science comparing Ninja Gaiden with Wrath of the Black Manta.
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Jurassic Park's sound design and visuals remind me a lot of Zombies Ate My Neighbors.
That Bugs Bunny game looks like a hasty conversion from some other 8-bit platform that only existed in the Soviet Union or something
My favorite Loony Tune was always "bouncing snake made of spheres."
Love that classic Jurassic Park theme composed by John Williams and featured in the Ocean NES video game Jurassic Park™
I remember seeing an ad for Treasure Master in a gaming magazine back in the day, and there was some contest around the game.
The most iconic thing about the game is the main characters walk cycle. He has this: 'I give no fucks' stride. .gif's of him walking would get meme'd on various message boards.
Also just waiting for Jeff to realize that it's Comic Bakery playing in Jurassic Park.
I’m watching it right now and is waiting for exactly that to!!
Holy crap, I had a dream that the Episode this week was going to be Ninja Gaiden. Except in my dream it was still Ep. 28 and the title was "Who's Ninja Gaiden? What's His Story?"
I got weirdly addicted to Wario's Woods on Nintendo Switch online after playing the VS with a friend. There's a lot to that game mechanically which keeps it interesting, and it's even better playing head-to-head. The SNES version has a VS CPU mode that makes the game feel more substantial, but the NES version is still great. The 2 player mode has a great soundtrack too.
Once you get used to Wario's Woods it feels great. The level clear music is some of my favorite.
These VODs are like Saturday morning cartoon blocks for me. Thank you, Jeff, for your commitment to this important research.
The most important thing is, you played through the mind cart stage. God that music is so good!
I beat Birthday Blowout as a kid.
Always liked that game *Shrug*
RE: the video title question - it's Alex Kidd in Shinobi World
There's no time stamp for Wario's Woods. 1:23:10
You said you were going to get the door. You came back and did not have a door. I was disappointed.
Love ya Jeff! Been a fan for almost half my life now. I'm 49.
Wow the Jurassic Park music is very evocative of the films. It’s just like being there.
If the stink is really that bad, you might need to rent a small ozone generator and give that room a good ozone followed by a thorough air-out. Hope the bad smell isn't biasing the science!
I bought one years ago for $50. Comes in handy for deodorizing rooms.
i wonder why they thought it was necessary to have that animating grass in Bugs Bunny. the game slows down by like 50% whenever it's on screen :o
Ninja Gaiden will always be a classic and im so happy to see Jeff get to it finally!
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Glad to see Ninja Gaiden get respectable placement. It might be my favorite NES game ever. Killer music. Amazing intro cutscene. Perfect controls. It's great. Also, kind of neat how well the Xbox-and-beyond games captured the spirit of the NES games' "never stop moving forward" design philosophy, when you think about it.
Bugs' Birthday Blowout is a game that I owned and played a ton of, because that's what you did with the games that you had, quality be damned, and I am absolutely stunned by how much of that game was unrecognizable to me. I don't remember shit about it, like some sort of self defense mechanism.
Wario's Woods has been sustaining my manic puzzler needs for 29 years so this was pretty rough. I guess I've never considered its onboarding issues because I have been on the other side of that learning curve for so long. I assure you, it's got so much more going for it than Dr Mario
I remember getting Ninja Gaiden right when it came out and initially being disappointed that it was nothing like the arcade game. But then I grew to appreciate it just for what it was.
As the kids say the intro music to Ninja Gaiden slaps.
Ninja Gaiden is a great game that is straight up unfair at times. I didn't think "Is it better or worse than Castlevania 1?" would be a tough question, but I spent a couple of minutes sitting back thinking about that myself. They are similar games as they are different if that makes any sense.
As for the rest, Bugs deserved a better birthday, Casino Kid has potential but requires a more time and patience to dig into, and it's a shame that Treasure Master isn't as cool as your character's walk is, but Wario's Woods seems very interesting and Jurassic Park should have been ranked higher, in my opinion. I never got past the first level as a kid, but I always remembered the music and it makes me want to play the rest of it now that I've seen what happens after you open the gate.
Good stuff, Gerstmann. Onto Episode 30! Hopefully the GameScent smell cleared out by then, LOL.
I've owned Ninja Gaiden since kindergarten, and I've never gotten past level 4 without emulator shenanigans.
Playing Jurassic Park for the NES in a stinky room?
Must be Friday.
(EDIT: I've seen no scientific chart, in the history of mankind, that has had Rygar above Ninja Gaiden. It defies the very laws of physics, my good sir!)
I like that the speech to text interpreter decides to thank the viewers on its own at 1:07:43
It's the pause that makes it sincere
Happy birthday Bugs
...Sounds like it's time for you to have your own crystal skull adventures.
Maybe it's because you had a headache, and was ready to wrap up the episode.
But I'm surprised you didn't talk about the walk animation and song in Treasure Master. Was interesting at the least.
Then no discussion while putting it on the list.
Oh well. At the end of the day it doesn't matter.
Thanks for the episode. 🙂
The walk cycle definitely should have come under scientific consideration here
I feel very sorry for that room and the person that has to use it as their workspace
The title music for Treasure Master is the second season theme song from Starsky and Hutch
You found me.
I love fridays more so because of this series. Its always a special treat
Same. Hadn't felt this way about a show in ages
2:43:30 very unfortunate bit here. If Jeff hadn't jumped thinking it was the wall he had to blow up, he would've blown up the floor which is the actual thing you have to do. Can't blame him for being confused though.
Jurassic Park and some baseball games etc where shadows get smaller the higher an object gets in the air makes zero sense.
Casino Kid makes more sense when you realize it's not a Casino game but an RPG based in a Casino. It's not a JRPG style layout, it's an actual JRPG. It's very much like the World Court Tennis RPG mode. The battles are Casino games and you have to win and the point is to work your way up to the big game and win it. That said, if you don't like video game BJ/Poker as a main gameplay mechanic, you'll hate it.
spice girls reference? damn jeff, youre mind spins some tasty connections
Ninja Gaiden was just a very early release to the main series, Dead or Alive. All this connects back to Fame Douglas.
Feel like the bugs bunny game wouldn't be running like shit if every godamn block wasn't sparkling
Real bummer there's so much churn in the energy drinks market. I don't need the availability of my legal vices to decline more than the illegal ones.
At a glance that bugs bunny games looks pretty decent. The sprite work isn't bad but yeah that scrolling is rough.
i never got past the jungle stage in Ninja Gaiden. Still enjoyed it.
Never split 10s.
Never split 5s.
Never double down on a hard 12.
Never buy the insurance.
Come on Jeff.
I feel like between the GameScent stank in the room, and having to play 4 bad games in a row, Jeff was in a state by the end of the video
What a weird Kelbeross glitch. It spawned a third one? That somehow shared the health meter?
You know - Ryu, son of Ken.
Now where does SF2010 fit into Ninja Gaiden canon?
Jurassic Park is the origin story of Dynowarz: Destruction of Spondylous, according to science of course
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I really, really like the Wario Woods soundtrack
[grumbly voice] dock the pocket, jeff. what if you dock the pocket
NEVER!!!!
Still waiting for that hot follow up "Ninja"
So soft drink ownership is surprisingly loose between Canada and the US; Dr Pepper is a fun one to look up as both Coke AND Pepsi sell the damn thing depending on where you live for example.
But for what it's worth Pepsi has been the owner/distributer of Rockstar in Canada for the last decade at least. It's who I buy the stuff from anyhoo. They also bought Guru and seem to have buyers remorse about it. It's a real racket.
So maybe that's a new thing where Jeff lives but hey, on the upside it might become a lot easier to get the stuff in the future as a result. The stuff is ubiquitous wherever Pepsi products are sold up here.
Thanks to The Wizard I'll always say Ninja Guydan, too many people say Gayden nowadays.
Buy some Citrus Magic and put one in the room it helps
Some of the first music I downloaded off the internet were Ninja Gaiden midis. Also, I had a dumbass classmate who called it Ninja Garden.
That title took a few tries to get. But now I understand and have questions. Is DOA the main story?
Ninja Gaiden (NES) came out in 1988. Ninja Gaiden (XBOX) in 2004. DOA in 1996 and Ryu was in the roster even then.
I'm pretty sure the only reason NG was rebooted was the popularity of DOA, and they started putting the ninja girls into the NG games. None of the franchises really reference each-other at all except for the major ninja characters, so I would say they are two different storylines. Like the MCU, but if Iron Man were the only movies before and after the Avengers. The first games has quite a lot of ties but they became less relevant with each game. But it's not like any of the games are known for their stories.
Man, I wish you would have went and gotten some water and paper towels and rags etc, to do a clean clean up of the spill. Now I'm going to be tense the whole stream, imagining you playing with a sticky controller and using a sticky mouse 😂
It was a sugar-free drink
W.U.R.M. can't be far behind
Wario's Woods' time stamp has typo so it doesn't show up properly
New here.
What's your thoughts on 'VICE project doom'?
To me, the story is just weird.
The bookmark for Wario's Woods is a bit screwy; makes it seem like you played bug's bunny for as long as ninja gaiden. Looks like it might be related to you typing in "01:23: 23" with the space.
Lol the video title.
The way they are so sparing with the coin dispersal in Wario's Woods is asinine
The big question is: what do these games smell of?
Sorry Tim
If there was Wii, where was Wii Ni ("2")?
The SNES Wario's Woods is my girlfriend.
Coca-Cola with Coffee been reviewed?
It's disgusting.
@@kiloyardstare it's an alpha drink you wouldn't understand I don't think.
There's new flavors of Rockstar Recovery. Berryade I'm not impressed with. Definitely the worst of the Recovery bunch but I'll drink it if i had to. I haven't found Raspberry Lemonade yet.
treasure master's music is way, way better than the game
Big ups to those gamers who made it to this week's science, in the words of Mr. Dee-oh-double-gee, "somehow, some way."
Can't wait to see what stacks up to Dynowarz: Destruction of Spawn-dee-loose.
I'm a Dr. Mario hater but I've played many, many hours of Wario's Woods and I think it's really immeasurably better. It's not the most intuitive thing in the world and it has a rougher difficulty curve than most puzzle games, but once you know the moves there are many ways to quickly dispatch of vast amounts of guys, and multiplayer on a high difficulty level is really intense and exciting. There's also a lot of depth in that there are varieties of guys that can only be destroyed under special conditions that you can select if you need even more of a challenge. Most of the games that Jeff plays can be judged somewhat fairly in the time he allots for them, but in this case I genuinely believe it could have jumped 50 spots, easily, if he played it for another hour. After playing the lessons he pretty much went straight back to not using any of the techniques he was taught; I guess it just takes a bit of time getting comfortable with them. The SNES version is slightly easier since you have more buttons and don't have to use the D-pad to kick. It also features a voice acted middle-aged-sounding Toad yelling "Yowza!"
Why does nobody talk about piracy linked to the layoffs
I'd say it's more because of Fortnite and mobile
Do you see any correlation at all there? It seems Nintendo is hit the hardest by piracy, as their systems have been open to emulation for many years (and they claim a million people had pirated the newest Zelda before it had even released), but they're not laying a lot of people of at the moment.
The rest of the Looney Tunes gang really had no reason to be jealous of Bugs Bunny's Birthday Blowout. I remember playing this game when I was a kid and I didn't like it much back then.
MAn that Treasure Hunter game looks like garbage but those jams are absolutely sick
Man, that Treasure Master soundtrack is fantastic, shame the game itself is awful lol.
I just saw that Jeff considers Orange Dreamsicle his 4th (so far) best energy drink. This makes me wonder how much sweetness Jeff likes into his Energy drinks, because Orange Dreamsicle is cloying as shit, and the worst Reign I tried. Melon Mania and Mango Matic are pretty good. Lemon HDZ is middling, but Orange Dreamsicle is horrible. In Brazil there are no other Reign flavors available, but it is a good brand, overall
Wait, couldn't you climb on the walls in Ninja Gaiden? So you didn't have to jump back and forth to go up.
Only some walls tho, from what I remember
Bugs Bunny Birthday Bash is more competent than some of the worst games on the list but I'd argue it's one of the most offensive games on this list from a standpoint of how mad you'd be if you paid full price for it at the time. You can squint at Circus Caper and think maybe the sort of person who would make this sort of game might actually enjoy playing it for a little while. BBBB is cynical trash, chunks of level and assets are clearly stolen from somewhere, and the level and variance of the slowdown turns both the platforming and combat into something that has to be worked around, not mastered. It Stinks!