3d Printing ASA For Beginners (Ender 3) Most Underrated Filament?

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    In this video, we take a look at what goes into 3d printing with ASA and awesome filament that has high strength, heat deflection, and UV resistance. We are going to take a look at the properties of this filament, go over how to print with ASA, and do some printing on our Ender 3
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  • @rockopia8505
    @rockopia8505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for a great, informative video that answers most questions regarding 3D printing with ASA filament.

  • @jhovahnissi
    @jhovahnissi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I needed to print some mount adapters for CCTV outdoor cameras. After deciding ASA was going to be the choice for this project I came across your video. Your video was spot on with settings. I printed on my Qidi X-Plus, which is fully enclosed. Once I got the bed set the three brackets printed out smooth as butter. Thanks a bundle for the time saved.

  • @amundsen575
    @amundsen575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great simple tutorial, just got a 3d printer ender5 plus, ordered up the micro swiss hot end and some asa made in the USA . building a simple acrylic enclosure as I want to print practical parts

  • @digital0785
    @digital0785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is literally the next filament im going to try on my ender 3 pro so thank you for posting this

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Let me know how it goes :D

    • @digital0785
      @digital0785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ModBotArmy gotta build one of those ghetto enclosure you spoke of first haha i was planning on doing it this week anyway more then likely but just another reason to do it

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should only use it if you need it though. It cost double and is unnecessary for most things.

    • @digital0785
      @digital0785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dangerous8333 no where near double Unless the only thin youre comparing to is pla in which case if youre using 3d printing for functional things probably not using pla

  • @chuysaucedo7119
    @chuysaucedo7119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good stuff. I've been learning about 3d printing for about 5 months. Not sure why I hadn't run across your channel.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man! I am happy you found me now 😬

    • @chuysaucedo7119
      @chuysaucedo7119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ModBotArmy Me too

  • @jihadhazameh9635
    @jihadhazameh9635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video bro, so happy for you and proud of you keep it up my boy!

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey brotha! I hope you are doing good. Thank you very much man I really appreciate it 😬❤️

    • @jihadhazameh9635
      @jihadhazameh9635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ModBotArmy Everything is good bro, let’s hit up San O soon.

  • @WhamBamSystems
    @WhamBamSystems 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    nice, happy you are covering ASA and opening up people's minds to less than standard filaments!

    • @timd9430
      @timd9430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You mean crap rainbow colored PLA?

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's not opening people's minds. Everyone knows about asa. Probably 80% of people out there don't need asa in their prints. So why pay double?
      I use this stuff, but that's because it is required in the things I make. If it wasn't, I'd never use it.

    • @mashman84
      @mashman84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dangerous8333 i use alot of abs because its strong but the other reason i havent used ASA and would need to be printing something in an engine bay etc as ASA is twice the price of ABS here in Australia.

    • @SimSummer
      @SimSummer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Dan Gerous i can get asa as the same price as pla so for me its no proplem

    • @Dyl_With_A_Cam
      @Dyl_With_A_Cam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mashman84 My only thing is that ABS shrinks and i'm making a precise air vent for a car. Do you think it's that much of an issue? ASA is the same price as everything else form what I see for me. what would you rather have?

  • @matthewpride179
    @matthewpride179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am working on a custom led light housing for my car and after reading about the properties of ASA, knew this filament is the right one. After looking closely on my OEM car grille it was made from ASA. I still need to print my final part in ASA, but your video definitely helped me on some specs I will tweak my profile in Cura. Thanks, all the best to you.

    • @igsgarage
      @igsgarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @CottonRamen
      @CottonRamen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you finish that project? Did it withstand the heat?

  • @thehappyextruder7178
    @thehappyextruder7178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great practical printing Content ! awesome work Sir... Happy Extruding !

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ron! I hope you are doing well :)

  • @jswallet
    @jswallet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was very helpful. I want to make some interior organization parts for my 4Runner that I don't want to warp in the Texas heat. I'll give ASA a shot!

  • @neoprint3d
    @neoprint3d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey I have a modded ender 3. I love your videos. Your videos are soo underrated. keep up the great videos.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Drew I really appreciate it 😬👍

  • @SteveH-TN
    @SteveH-TN ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this video & perspective

  • @Zachary3DPrints
    @Zachary3DPrints 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool, I want to use it in the future

  • @theglowcloud2215
    @theglowcloud2215 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ASA is pretty incredible. It's an improvement on ABS in virtually every way except price and it stinks less, to boot. I had no luck printing larger ASA models on a glass bed because of warping, but it prints great on the coated spring steel sheets at 100C bed temperature.

    • @danielstaiger2135
      @danielstaiger2135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it similar to ABS in rigidity? I am having issues trying to make a bracket I designed as rigid as possible. I printed with PETG and was surprised at how much flex I get with it. Would ASA be a good choice for something like this?

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielstaiger2135 yep, it's as rigid as ABS. When I say ASA's an improvement, it's an iterative improvement--the UV resistance is what sold me on ASA over ABS for outdoor use. And yeah, PETG is very ductile compared to ABS/ASA or even PLA. I've heard that ASA becomes brittle over time in high temperature environments (like cars in the summer), but have not experienced this. If you want the most rigid part, I'd look at carbon fiber nylon or polycarbonate, but those are harder to print.

  • @ducktheseraph
    @ducktheseraph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video, thanks!

  • @libregisin9878
    @libregisin9878 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I used recently a lot of ASA filament, nozzle temperature between 240C and 260C and bed between 70 and 105 C. It works very well, even a roll of 270 mm height. I did it on a creality cr-s10 pro, on a creality cr-6 se and on a prusa printer. It sticky very well on the bed, nearly to well. For me, it was as easy to print as PLA, with many advantages of ABS, as higher temperature resistance and UV resistance. More I use it, more I like it.

    • @JN2023
      @JN2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How much cooling fan did you use?

    • @lcarus42
      @lcarus42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im printing at 260c and 100c at 10mm/s in an encloser no cooling fans and the prints look amazing but the layers wont bind and it pulls apart like a knitted sweater.

    • @MrReivn
      @MrReivn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you notice differences with the bed temperatures variations? Planning on buying a printer for my automotive projects, and I have problems deciding between large bed size & 85 C limited bed temperature for 500€ or going for smaller bed size and 100 C+ bed temp for over 1000€ :D I can build an enclosure for the cheaper one (a cabinet in my carage), I think it would help a lot to maintain a steady bed temperature and reduce the cooling effect of any draft from the ventilation, but is it enough for ABS and ASA?

    • @Gaigebacca
      @Gaigebacca 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lcarus42 did you ever figure out a fix for this?

    • @lcarus42
      @lcarus42 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Gaigebacca no, I gave up on trying asa.

  • @vintageb3
    @vintageb3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative video. Can I ask, doesn't your Ender 3 Pro overheat in that enclosure? Is the intake and venting in the Whambam enclosure? Thanks!

  • @alexanderforbes2126
    @alexanderforbes2126 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really wish someone would do a video on ASA and overhangs/bridging. I can't find a single one that helps deal with that pain in the butt.

  • @no5x937
    @no5x937 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the standard Ender 3 come with a hot bed that goes up to or beyond 100C? Or do you have to buy it separately? What model do you recommend? Which Ender 3 (or 5) model and options do you have/recommend? --newbie

  • @avejst
    @avejst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It is a great filament
    It is looking as a matt pla, but with the high temperature resistance.
    Have printed a hotend assembly in ASA, it just works!
    Thanks for sharing 👍😊

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is awesome! I have a hotend Assembly I printed in PET-G but I would much rather have it in ASA for addition strength, rigidity, and heat deflection for higher temp printing :).
      Hope you had a great weekend!

  • @mx118racer
    @mx118racer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ive had asa for about a year and havent really tried it yet . got into challenging with abs on a stock ender 3 . set the stock hot end to 260deg , and print with a draft shield seems to work ok. going give ASA a go next cheers for the video!!

  • @Zhisaoka
    @Zhisaoka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, will you do a reveiw on Poly Lite Asa? Or is there a good reseller that you recomend for poly maker?

  • @P4P5
    @P4P5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im currently printing parts on my Ender 3 V2 (DD mod and all copperhead heat break from slice engineering) for Voron 2.4. Im using Formfutura ApolloX and its easy to print.

    • @tomlef9704
      @tomlef9704 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have also an E3v2 with sprite pro and used ApolloX but had delamination problems and warping. Pity, because I liked it, was smooth and easy to print, like PLA. Can you post your settings (temps, fan, speed, layers)? Had any accuracy problems? Any warping? Did you print in an enclosure?

  • @TheStangSlayer
    @TheStangSlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I print Futura AppoloX ASA w/ a Ender 3 V2 w/ Microswiss Hotend and Capricorn tube. I don't use an enclosure but use the Cura Draft shield option. It seems to work really well.
    I print with 255 Nozzle, 100 Bed temp and 20% layer cooling. The only real problem I struggled with is having Z axis layer adhesion. The parts basically acted very brittle and would not flex without breaking. To get past this, I increased layer thickness to 0.8MM (2 wall, 1.6mm thickness) and it seemed to work really well without any real loss of resolution. The only problem this gave me is that it basically created a see-through mess when printing layers on top of infill. However, with my parts, the only key piece seen is the bottom layer so this was not an issue and gave me the toughness I needed.
    For fan speeds, like I said, I use 20% layer cooling. I hadn't tried greater, but any less would have very awful bridging. I'm sure if I had an upgraded fan that pushed air in all directions, I may have had some better results.
    As far as fumes, I have this printer running mostly 24/7 in a room with the AC vent shut off and the ceiling fan off. If there are fumes, I don't smell them at all.
    I'd like to hear more peoples stories with printing with ASA as I feel there has to be better profiles people have setup for z axis layer adhesion.

    • @steeki2518
      @steeki2518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      U don't need to smell fumes to know they are there. Some materials sometimes don't have a specific smell. But the fumes are still there and can harm ur lungs thoe

    • @aj3793
      @aj3793 ปีที่แล้ว

      Layer height 0.8mm? I didn't know that was possible. What size nozzle are you running?

    • @Mr.Thermistor7228
      @Mr.Thermistor7228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@steeki2518how do you even go outside if you are that worried about air quality? Dude, a 3d printer is going to do next to absolute nothing to you

  • @conradstanley1027
    @conradstanley1027 ปีที่แล้ว

    I upgraded my ender 3 pro to all metal micro-swiss and what a disaster!! The company was helpful but after trying for a couple of weeks I gave up and re-installed the OEM. I've requested a new one so that when I get caught up I'll try it again. However, right now she's printing like a dream again. The only thing I noticed making the biggest difference was a cheap enclosure.

  • @dinosoarskill17
    @dinosoarskill17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Melting your PTFE tubing is the least of your concern.. It's the off-gassing in your home from the material.

  • @iandrake4683
    @iandrake4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have pla parts I spay painted white that have held up in full sun for two new england summers and still look great. I'm sure if they were black or not painted it'd be game over by now, but still I'm impressed.
    Asa does seem like a better solution though.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is awesome to hear. Did the paint have something for UV resistance in it? Definitely on my list to visit is different coating methods to see how well parts like PLA or PETG hold up. Only issue right now is how long time wise that would take and the place I am renting doesn’t get hit with to much direct sunlight.

    • @iandrake4683
      @iandrake4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ModBotArmy I think it was just your typical krylon enamel spay can. One set of parts are under a heavy compression load and the other are under a light tension.
      The parts with the tension load have the some warping, but I think that's mostly do to my poor design.

    • @alejandroperez5368
      @alejandroperez5368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iandrake4683 try that inside a car in Spain's summer. 80 degrees inside a car, not even petg will last without deforming

    • @iandrake4683
      @iandrake4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alejandroperez5368 true enough. I've never put a print inside.

    • @daniels4338
      @daniels4338 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Greetings from Phoenix. We bake cookies on our dashboard.

  • @dragonconley44
    @dragonconley44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Printing Rc parts with ASA and the same parts in clear PLA premium to test the strength when I'm out bashing my RC truck. I will be definitely testing each ones strength.

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure what pla premium is but you should use pla+ for that.

  • @videojoy88
    @videojoy88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you share the info on the metal inserts? Thanks!

  • @alchemistTi
    @alchemistTi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think HIPS is also a really overlooked and underrated filament. It’s big downfall is excessive curling/poor dimensional stability unless you print it in a heated chamber.

    • @raymonschepers994
      @raymonschepers994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HIPS is eventually first used as a support material while printing large complex ABS objects. It is indeed also slightly underestimated in terms of poly-styrene was already used in the '70s as a package filling material. It still is, but High Impact Poly Styrene mixed with a small amount of rubber is a great 3d building material. PEEK is a bit overrated (in my opinion)

  • @nsvaluto48328
    @nsvaluto48328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a link to this all metal hot end that you mentioned is a direct drop in?

  • @MarkLeabon
    @MarkLeabon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a standard nozzle or have you upgraded it for asa?

  • @nykachuu
    @nykachuu ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the barbecue part hold up? I'm looking to print a part that comes in contact with hot air from an oven and the pla part i printed didn't quite hold up well enough.

  • @danielb3744
    @danielb3744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wauuuuw Very nice, this worx perfectly with my Longer Lk-4Pro, Creality CR-6 SE so - many thanks ModBot !!!!!! **********
    Can you pleace put one video for ABS so with Cura Settings?

  • @Schnippen_Schnappen1
    @Schnippen_Schnappen1 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about ASA+cf? Is that any better or should i just stick with pure ASA? Better impact resistance? Oh and is moisture an issue with ASA is it highly hygroscopic

  • @3dzaga171
    @3dzaga171 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this filament is great i use at work 👌

  • @allanshamosh
    @allanshamosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Buying asa now

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please let me know how it goes!!

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Make sure you even need it. Otherwise you're wasting your money. Pla+ works for most things.

    • @allanshamosh
      @allanshamosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dangerous8333 pla + is too expensive for a print farm. But you're right

    • @HarmanMotorWorks
      @HarmanMotorWorks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dangerous8333 PLA+ is useless once it gets some UV on it unfortunately. But otherwise, a great, easy material to prototype indoors with

  • @BecomingOffgrid
    @BecomingOffgrid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hairspray on my PEI has resulted in zero failure of bed adhesion.

  • @zhoupact8567
    @zhoupact8567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this be the material to use if I want to make a phone holding thingy for my bicycle? Is it bendy enough to get the phone into and out of a thingy like that?

  • @mathyouschmitz
    @mathyouschmitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm looking to print lot number signs for a campground I work at. They will have to be screwed to wooden poles or trees. I'm a complete virgin and know nothing about 3d printing. This set up sounds like it might be what I'm looking for? Any thoughts on what I should do? Thank you.

  • @duncanchestnut5583
    @duncanchestnut5583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I needed to use ASA for a Voron Afterburner and it was pretty interesting material but I had some rough learning experiences with it.
    The hardest thing to get rid of was the extremely rough first few layers that can be seen at 1:17 and very rough top layers. I believe this is a result of ASA being a fairly rigid material and it is being squished too much from overextrusion, overheating, and too close of nozzle to bed.
    Otherwise, I've ironically avoided every other warning of ASA. I print at 235, bed temp of 60, no enclosure and got beautiful prints but maybe I just got a nice brand or something.

    • @ColinWatters
      @ColinWatters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What brand was it?

    • @FreshCityVentures
      @FreshCityVentures 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those "rough first few layers" happen with any filament when your nozzle is too close to the bed. He clearly mentions this in the video and is not specific to ASA.

    • @cameronedmonds1643
      @cameronedmonds1643 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ColinWattersright?!? This guy!

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video 🖖 👍

  • @jameselliott9397
    @jameselliott9397 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So PEI is the build sheet you used? Do you use glue with that?

  • @vintuckyfirearms5656
    @vintuckyfirearms5656 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which all metal hot end did he recommend? I keep missing it.

  • @parvariramin
    @parvariramin ปีที่แล้ว

    ‏Do you have to change the part of the printer to print ASA? I have a brand Anycubic kobra Neo printer and I want to print ASA with it, but I don't know if I can or should I change a part?

  • @grahambate3384
    @grahambate3384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noice, but ASA is toxic is abs? Cheers

  • @renes2848
    @renes2848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video! So any printer that can print ABS can also print ASA (eg: Anycube Vyper/Kobra)? Thank you

    • @butterknuckles2
      @butterknuckles2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm playing around with ASA on my Vyper currently. I'm having some slight warping issues. Pretty sure it's just because I don't have an enclosure. It's definitely capable though 👍

  • @mmill631
    @mmill631 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi all, Dos ASA produce toxic vipers like ABS? Is it ok to print in a small space or should I properly ventilate like ABS?

  • @jannekallio5047
    @jannekallio5047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am right now trying to print ASA and having quite lot problems. One issue I have are the few first 3 mm of the print and I can see on your video 1:20 the same thing. First 3mm are rough. Anyone know how to fix that? What is causing it? Also I saw ASA does not need cooling at all.. well trying that was a disaster :)

  • @josephslaviero
    @josephslaviero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to put it out there,, I clean up my pee eye ? ya know what I mean,,, with a green scrub pad and acetone and then clean off with IPA to get rid of the acetone.
    ABS sticks too good at 95 (hard to get off) but still have probs delaminating layers up the print at the moment,,, I also dial my extrusion up to bout 120 %, seems stronger print with no blobs etc (stock ender 3 pro with a bath towel rapped around it).

  • @StasysFPV
    @StasysFPV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your experience, I think it will be useful information for me as a newbie. Just waiting for my new first 3d printer ender 3 pro. Mine - like and sub.

  • @jouebien
    @jouebien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It should be noted that the v2 has a Max bed temperature of 90 degrees. And some early ender 3 shipped with a non removable bed surface that wasn't capable of withstanding higher temperatures

    • @viperbite18
      @viperbite18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my ender3 v2 bed gets to 105c or 110c

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine goes to 110. Not sure where you're getting your info.

  • @jasonwoody8041
    @jasonwoody8041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a ender 3 im trying to print asa on. I have it in a creality enclosure and im printing at 245c and 100c. If i zip the enclosure up tightly my printer overheats in 3 hours. If i vent it a little to help make it not so hot but still much warmer the part pops of the bed, lol. Any other tricks you can think of other than a new printer or pulling all the electronics to run them outside of the enclosure?

    • @gitss7367
      @gitss7367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never had an overheat with the ender enclosure when I used that. I built a wood and i moved the control screen and power supply to the outside. I cut a whole right under the motherboard fan in the bottom and the enclosure it raised to allow it to vent. I also have heat lamps on a dimmer if I need more heat in the chamber. From what I read the power supply is something people say get out of a heated chamber. And from experience if it gets hot enough sometimes the control screen will become unresponsive and freeze.

  • @FartSmog
    @FartSmog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No issues with layer adhesion around 250c? I usually have to go at 260 or above to get really strong prints in Z

    • @shoes121255
      @shoes121255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you running for speed? I go hot and slow and have the bottom taped off with foil tape except for around the nozzle. My prints take forever at 30 but so far they're coming out clean. I run my first few layers at 255 then drop to 250c

  • @panic5306
    @panic5306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the bed at 90 and the extruder at 250 but my ASA prints refuse to stick making blobs and messes. is there anything I should be doing differently. I have just the stock ender 3 s1. should I be using any adhesive? or maybe I need an enclosure? my room is very small and I keep windows and doors shut while printing but is that really enough to mess with my prints? I haven't tried out the glass bed should I try that?

  • @BB-fc1wc
    @BB-fc1wc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I have a question. I am using Cura and an Ender 3 V2 When the printer made a perfect sticking 3 layers raft he begin printing to high. The layers wont stick the 4th layer. How can I solve this problem?
    Thanks,

  • @sccp1942
    @sccp1942 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to pint a caliburn foam blaster out of asa I have the hardware kit coming in the male but all the nerf people on the web say it's a bad idea but I see people use abs I was thinking mostly asa and some petg for colored piece because I could only get asa in black or white where I got the filament from

  • @stephenchristy4845
    @stephenchristy4845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Should I be concerned about the toxic fumes from asa? I moved the printer and box to the garage to minimize odors

  • @NicholasMavrikBrandt
    @NicholasMavrikBrandt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I pretty much print only in ASA, its got the heat resistance and UV resistance I want. My biggest issue with it is the good old bed adhesion

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you use for bed adhesion that you have found to work the best?

    • @NicholasMavrikBrandt
      @NicholasMavrikBrandt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ModBotArmy in all honesty I have almost the same setup as you, but I print automotive parts all day, my work flow is a glass sheet with buildtack to take out some bed warping from heat with magig per adhesive that and a nice enclosure with a 3mm bed has meant I see no warping or lifting any more

  • @scubaGregory
    @scubaGregory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I print with a themperature off 220 °C for the nozzle and 90°C for the heated bed. :-) Works great !! I have a ender 3 S1. Just wanted to know what you set for fan speed :-) My fanspeed at this moment is 177.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      220 for ASA? Unless it is a special blend that seems low. How is interlayer adhesion? U have the fan off for ASA, the exception would be bridging or super small parts that may have warping issues due to lack of cooling. In those instance it is still not more that ~25%

    • @HarmanMotorWorks
      @HarmanMotorWorks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ModBotArmy I can print at 215 with PETG with my Ender 3 V2 so 🤷‍♂️ lol, I wouldn't be surprised if you can get away with 220 with ASA; these temps are not a hard and fast rule. I've heard of people printing ABS at 205. As for my PETG layer adhesion, no issues at all - that said, I do slow the print right down...so sub 35mm/s

    • @danbyler8223
      @danbyler8223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HarmanMotorWorks And I've printed PETG at 205 on my Ender 3 lmao. I was having issues with stringing and oozing, so I kept dropping the temp by 5 degrees until I got all the way down to 205 and it printed fine. I think it also just depends on the brand and quality of filament. Some brands need a higher temp. For instance, I print esun PLA+ at 208, but I print Polymaker PLA at 180-190. And Polymaker PETG is the stuff I got printing at 205. So yeah I think it just depends a lot on the brand.

    • @hienamendez6592
      @hienamendez6592 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danbyler8223 stock ender 3 ??? I just order some polimaker PETG so no need for all metal hotend or Capricorn?

    • @danbyler8223
      @danbyler8223 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hienamendez6592 well my ender 3 is modded a bit, but I'd say you should get a slice engineering bi-metal heat break and forget about capricorn. You really only need one or the other and capricorn tubing still has its limits. But yes, you can print petg on a stock ender 3, I get best results with the Polymaker PETG at about 220 C which is fine for leaving it stock, but I'd still recommend the bi-metal heat break so the ptfe tubing lasts longer and you'll be able to print hotter filaments like ASA and ABS in the future.

  • @vardenispavardenis2318
    @vardenispavardenis2318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    printing ASA with flashforge creator3 my bed is mirror i using pva glue stick but i find this glue i can put on only with 60 degree. so i find first 2 layers i have 60 degree on bed and then i lift temperature till 80 degree

  • @v1ncen715
    @v1ncen715 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lova Asa but bed adhesion has always been an issue for me.. I tried with glue sticks, with bed 105 or 110 degrees C, but the only thing that ever works is printing a support raft.. which takes a long time for each print but eventually works.. Maybe I should try hairspray? I am building an enclosure now, it seems to be helping for this...

    • @zahirbabun6663
      @zahirbabun6663 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m having problems too, using enclosure and hairspray still warping and coming loose on the bed, it is kind of a challenge but worth it because it prints so beautiful

  • @ayamhot5446
    @ayamhot5446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but the problem with ASA on me is the warping. Any tips for me?

  • @lopo8000
    @lopo8000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can u use the magnetic bed to print this at 100 Celcius ?

  • @djal1030
    @djal1030 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you place the links of recommended parts?

  • @Fm-ss4uj
    @Fm-ss4uj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the shrink rate for asa?

  • @craigcommadore4441
    @craigcommadore4441 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the a good % for infill?

  • @squirralien1863
    @squirralien1863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am having trouble getting an answer for my question and after watching this video I am wondering if this would be a good choice to print a computer case, I have a plan divided in to about 15 individual parts to be assembled, sanded and painted, Do you think ASA would be suitable? If not what would your suggestion be and Ill go and watch some videos about them.
    Thanks, If someone answers.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would definitely work but it may be overkill. As in you don’t need the heat properties which is a huge reason to print with it. If you have an enclosed printer that can print large parts in this material it will definitely work though. Otherwise I would imagine a petg or pla could work. Pla will be stiffer than petg.

    • @squirralien1863
      @squirralien1863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ModBotArmy thank you for your reply,
      I’ll watch some videos on these two.
      I appreciate your reply.

  • @Im_an_Angryoldman
    @Im_an_Angryoldman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried printing it today and could not get it too stick. I'm running an Ender 3 v2 with the standard glass bed. Going to have another crack at it when I get a bit more time. Might then try flipping the glass over and try some glue stick or hair spray.

    • @bgcm1995
      @bgcm1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's it going at the moment? I just received mine couple days ago, I have yet to put it together. Just wanna use it as a hobby, I'll see how things go lol

    • @Im_an_Angryoldman
      @Im_an_Angryoldman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bgcm1995 I had another go using some hair spray on the textured side of the glass. I successfully printed a bl touch mount using a raft and a draft shield. 240 hot end temp 110 degree bed. Adhesion was fine and the print was free on the bed once it had cooled back down to room temperature. This was without an enclosure. I have built a flat pack cupboard that I am going to use as an enclosure. I also have just received a flexible spring steel pei bed that I will fit when I get back to my printer (I am away working). The printer is going to live in a shed in my backyard as I want to print abs without stinking out the house. I'll also be trying some more ASA prints then. All in all its a great printer. I'm enjoying all the experimentation with different plastics etc.

  • @blackredroll
    @blackredroll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I bought 2kg of nice ASA for my helical wind turbine project, but ASA warps like crazy and I was not able to print thin blades. I eventually printed prototype in PLA. After more than year it still holds on well. Another point is the terrible smell of ASA. Not sure if I"'ll ever use that 2kg.

    • @mistershoes548
      @mistershoes548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guess that means you're giving it away :D

    • @christophmuller3511
      @christophmuller3511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get an enclosure and let the build plate soak for a while to get the chamber temperature up and you will be fine.

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enclosure and an exhaust fan. The end.
      Also, pla+ would have been a better choice than pla.

    • @overlookedundead8711
      @overlookedundead8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That terrible smell is also poisonous styrene gas to boot!

    • @fredharman
      @fredharman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dangerous8333 PLA+ is still useless in the sun. ASA is a God-send for me. Especially for an R/C car application (basically any outdoor print applications)

  • @pamarviseu
    @pamarviseu ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm trying to print ASA with my ender 3, using glass base and all metal hotend but the part always comes out of the base. I'll try one more time.

  • @The_Traveling_Clown
    @The_Traveling_Clown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello to the Toyota owners Fam. I have a Toyota Corolla SE 2019 model. Does ASA fumes like ABS during the printing process??

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Woohoo rolla gang! 2014 SE here 😬 yes that is something that it does share with ABS

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Didn’t notice it much with the enclosure but for heavy printing I am sure it would fume a bit more.

    • @awardfoto1
      @awardfoto1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got sick from inhaling the ASA fumes

  • @marcnunes6916
    @marcnunes6916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get the metal thread inserts?

    • @lavrgs
      @lavrgs ปีที่แล้ว

      McMaster Carr is a good source...if you're US based

  • @dav1dbone
    @dav1dbone ปีที่แล้ว

    I have STL files of balls and bones, I sliced the models and put the gcode on my SD card.
    How to mod my ender 3v2 so the dog can knock out some toys while I'm out?

  • @Oblithian
    @Oblithian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PolyCarbonate is cheaper and stronger, and food safe. So aside from higher temperatures, It's what I would like to use as a standard material.

  • @CaliMeatWagon
    @CaliMeatWagon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hairspray is great, use it myself. Don't see myself using anything else. Pretty much guaranteed bed adhesion.

    • @_nom_
      @_nom_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it do the same good things to your hair?

    • @CaliMeatWagon
      @CaliMeatWagon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_nom_ I don't use hairspray in my hair. I don't use anything at all.

  • @LuLeBe
    @LuLeBe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why replace the whole hotend with an all metal option? Just replace the heatbrake and thermistor.

  • @hektor010101
    @hektor010101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everytime I try to print ASA I can't get it to stick to my bed. Tried different temp for nozzle and bed. Having really hard time making not fail everytime

  • @StinkyWizzleTits
    @StinkyWizzleTits ปีที่แล้ว

    So if the hot end is around 250c and the bed is at least 100c and Im using an enclosure, can I slow cook ribs in the enclosure while Im printing?

    • @lavrgs
      @lavrgs ปีที่แล้ว

      you would flavor it very badly

  • @RyuMoto
    @RyuMoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any experience with this ASA compared to X3D Apollo X?

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually have not heard of the Apollox filament? Do you have a link?

    • @RyuMoto
      @RyuMoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ModBotArmy actually I don't but Teaching Tech recently recommended it for automotive parts and he didn't need a enclosure. He uses it in the engine bay. Seems rather impressive. Perhaps you could look into it? I'm not sure if it's just their name for ASA

    • @29OCT2004
      @29OCT2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ModBotArmy ApolloX from FormFutura

  • @RespawnRestricted
    @RespawnRestricted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd say the most underrated filament is pla Plus

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I 100% agree. ASA is not underrated, it's just not needed by everyone.

    • @HarmanMotorWorks
      @HarmanMotorWorks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought so, until I put some PLA+ parts in the sun...warp city lol. Would not recommend PLA+ for any outdoor applications; even brief exposure causes low infill/thin parts, to begin warping. Quite disappointing

  • @lorenzretiro
    @lorenzretiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you print ASA in the anycubic i3 mega s?

    • @robwickham8530
      @robwickham8530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have a print going well now with 245 E0 / 100 bed, enclosure

  • @michaelgraham5242
    @michaelgraham5242 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought you said the color was "Afri-Kite Gray" but it is actually "Anth-ra-site" or Anthracite Gray.

  • @empireStyle
    @empireStyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i still like carbon fiber nylon with a continuous operating temperature of 350 degrees F and extremely rigid tough.....but it requires upgraded printers....prints at 280 degrees, i have not been able to find a better filament than CF Nylon.......ASA is good but still stands no chance against CF Nylon in toughness/temperature tests....I always strive to see if i can find filaments that are extremely tough and can withstand extreme temperatures and i think ASA comes second in the list.

    • @CC-kc5lb
      @CC-kc5lb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except for uv ratings

  • @tommyflores7819
    @tommyflores7819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I contact you have a couple nylonX questions

  • @jleadbetter29
    @jleadbetter29 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How's the smell? Is it similar to ABS while printing?

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is similar to ABS. To me it is not quite as bad but it may depend on which type/brand you go with.

    • @PepperPete11
      @PepperPete11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ModBotArmy I'm a bit new to 3D printing and only worked with PLA so far. Once the printing is finished, does the plastic ASA still keep a strange smell once cooled? Or is it odourless? Also I only have an apartment with no ability to print anywhere except the kitchen. Is the smell tolerable without much ventilation? Thank you so much. Subbed.

    • @OldCurmudgeon3DP
      @OldCurmudgeon3DP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Styrene off gassing. Last I heard it's hazardous to your health to breath it. Make sure your room or enclosure is ventilated outside.

  • @OldCurmudgeon3DP
    @OldCurmudgeon3DP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If it gasses the same as ABS you need to evacuate the fumes instead of breathing them.

    • @timd9430
      @timd9430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just stick 2 straws up your nose... huff away.

    • @danzo5521
      @danzo5521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@timd9430 it produces carcinogenic fumes, not something to joke around with

    • @alejandroperez5368
      @alejandroperez5368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danzo5521 Smoke from smoking also produces that and people pay to smoke. So?

    • @danzo5521
      @danzo5521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alejandroperez5368 on a scale from 1-200, how stupid are you?
      I'm guessing a strong 193 but I'll let you answer

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alejandroperez5368 Huh?
      What a completely illogical statement.

  • @reasonsvoice8554
    @reasonsvoice8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a trianglelabs clone microswiss hotend
    Cannot fault it at all
    Clone mosquito on the way now 😂

  • @HangTheBidens
    @HangTheBidens ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my favorite diy enclosure is made from recycled padded bubble envelopes and duct tape.

  • @levischittlord6558
    @levischittlord6558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have read of people complaining of odor, could you maybe use a small fan to vent the enclosure through a charcoal filter like the people with marijuana grow tents do?

    • @LegeFles
      @LegeFles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that could work. It's more than just an odor, the gasses are a health hazard.

    • @levischittlord6558
      @levischittlord6558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LegeFles maybe vent it outside instead then through a cracked window

  • @eatthisvr6
    @eatthisvr6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the fumes like

  • @MrSpeakerMBurns
    @MrSpeakerMBurns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Polypropylene. Superior for printing with PETG

    • @Koolkole27
      @Koolkole27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Asa worth it or should I stay with petg?

  • @zommy5re77
    @zommy5re77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    'as hot as you can get it'
    those with that e3d heated bed:
    u ok mate?

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao fair, that would be the exception to the rule! I forgot about those super powered heated beds. 😂

    • @SlavaChrome
      @SlavaChrome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you seen video name? Most of viewers comes only for this 5 letter word =)

  • @LordNerfherder
    @LordNerfherder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is video proof of touching the pei plate and then print failure :< good example tbh.

  • @bdunni88
    @bdunni88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why threaded inserts? Just use through holes and nuts and bolts.

  • @TheBludgutz
    @TheBludgutz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I print ASA, PETG and ABS at all the same settings.... What is so hard about printing these filaments?

  • @emaayan
    @emaayan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But it's draws moisture, and will require enclosure

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have had very little issues with moisture with ABS and ASA. Not a bad idea still as it can very depending on your climate

    • @emaayan
      @emaayan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ModBotArmy have eASA (from eSUN) and it always have bubbles , when it's out open..
      in addition, having an enclosure complicates stuff, because then, if i understand correctly the internal temperature, needs to exceed the glass transition temp of the material in with ASA that means 80 degrees.

  • @dangerous8333
    @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think it has anything to do with being underrated. I just think people don't need it and it's twice as expensive as pla. So why buy it.
    I love it. It's overkill for most things though.

  • @75keg75
    @75keg75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anthracite is pronounced an-thra-site :D

  • @Megafoot2164
    @Megafoot2164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If it is a part that requires any type of critical strength but lacks thickness, in my opinion do not use ASA. Good for some things, not so much for others. In my case i gave up & had to pay a tool & die maker a considerable amount of money because ASA just didn't hold up . When your doing a prototype, think twice what materials your gonna use .