Yes - I know I missed a number on the graphic at 11:23 - it wasn't worth re-rendering the whole video again lol OH and the PG27AQN is on sale at Amazon rn for $899 and the lowest I've seen it. Still a ton of money for sure, but if you're been waiting for a sale, here it is - geni.us/BPs76T
Still my favorite channel when it comes to reviews and takes on tech. Came for the mice back in the day, stayed for the professionally structured videos and transparency on biases and opinions.
I love that you watch optimum. Every video he posts is so premium IMO. He is not as widespread or as continuously posting as you are, ut whenever he does post, he's got me and probably just about every subscriber HOOKED from start till finish. Not to take anything away from the Badseed, quite the opposite, but the production quality and niche on optimum tech is just.. something else
+1 for Carpio. Legit game changer product for office work. It's basically like sleeping without a pillow your whole life and then somebody invents the pillow.
@@badseedtech I know I am late to the Party but mine arrived today and I am surprised how natural it feels to use! I am Considering one for my left hand aswell since regular wrist rests are a little uncomfortable for me, does someone here have some expierence with that?
Thing to note on Optimum’s recommendations is that he’s a competitive nut. It’s his bread, butter and crack. The guy made the lightest mouse in the world and would sell his own mother for a higher refresh rate. So if that sounds like you then yeah he might be your go to for recommendations. Anyone else nah.
I can also vouch for the Carpio. Wish it was around years ago when I needed carpel tunnel surgery on both hands. Great video. Enjoying the daily uploads as well.
Rhythm games. That is another thing this would be good for, DJMAX, EZ2ON are two I play and I use a 360hz monitor for them, don't think a 540 would matter too much tbh but there are more games than just the ones you mentioned. OSU Mania maybe ( I don't like it so don't know how much FPS they allow up to ), Etterna and more. This is 100% a niche product but its awesome to see them pushing for more stuff like this.
Personally I think grasping for higher refresh rates on rhythm games is a bit of a red herring. Just in terms of peripherals, I think low latency controls make a bigger difference and no one seems to be talking about the role low latency audio has in keysounded games. The Presonus Quantum series of Thunderbolt interfaces boasts sub-millisecond latency. I love to know if it makes any difference in EZ2ON, which already has industry leading audio latency, but I'm not about to throw down $700 to find out.
@@lilpain1997 ehhhhhhhh it's important to a point. look. the monitor on the IIDX Lightning Model is objectively bad. TN, ghosts like a motherfucker. Doesn't matter, the jump from 60 to 120fps was a game changer. We are getting 12 MAXs now. That did not happen before.
they have 360hz 1440p 27 qd oled panels coming from samsung next year. the native pixel response time of oled will likely mean a 360hz oled will be similar or faster responding compared to a 500hz tn with the added bonus of much better picture quality and contrast.
Never knew this channel existed but this dude is one of the best momitor reviewers already in my eyes after just watching this one review. Really good stuff!
for fortnite you should've used preformance mode in the rendering mode section instead of the low preset as the majority of people that play it run it on preformance mode to squeeze out as many frames as possible
if you are having wrist issues I urge you to do hand stretching exercises at least 2-3 times every session(2-3hours) and also if you add pull ups and dead hangs the problem will be gone forever.
Hi Bri, 🥰👋. I’ve been using the original Carpio wrist wrest for over 2yrs now and for me, they are worth the money and are great for long gaming / productivity sessions😇💪👍!
@@badseedtech oh okay its all good at least you’re doing it i haven’t started anything really. And i should’ve mentioned i found you i think when you was at like 10 or 20k subs. It just felt really fast. Lol
It's monitors like this and all the new GPU's that have me scratching my head everytime I go into PC Graphic settings on a video game to find V-Sync Ticked ON. lol one of the first things I uncheck these days...and then motion blur right after. Stellar vid as always!
Just to note, rainbow six is my main game and the benchmark compared to in game is drastically different. I get 600 in benchmark and in game I sit around 340 - 450 (depending on what operators are being played).
I got hyped when you said it is a TN panel. i dont like IPS or VA or OLED at all. I play games wich dont take much to run. So this monitor would be great for smooth gameplay at 540Hz. I think it is funny how people allways forget that there is other games than the mainstream games cuz there is thousands of games that will run way above 540hz . But the price is to high. Might wait a year or two and hope the price drops
Lol why did you get hyped at the worst looking display type by far when up until now the only other notable offering (the zowie) still had moderately SLOWER response times than the 1440p IPS 360hz from asus?
@@Frozoken I had to check my house for cameras in case i was being pranked. Because in the first part of my comment i said why i got hyped over TN. IPS VA and OLED i just dont like them at all. They suck in my opinion. IPS just hurts my eyes to look at. VA is blurr city. And OLED anything other than gaming or watching movies is a big nope
I can confirm I use the Carpio G 2.0 (G standing for gamer I'm pretty sure) and it has a rubber strap instead of just being a free wrist support like the 2.0. I personally love the G 2.0 as it helps me when editing or when I'm playing an extremely high APM game (RoR2 with huntress or mercenary). With valorant it's a bit tough but my wrist issues have gone down tremendously since buying the G 2.0 so I don't need it for everything anymore. HIGHLY recommend. I have also bought third party 3D printed wrist supports on amazon and they do not work the same at all. They feel either too stiff or don't support my hand as well. Highly recommend just buying the Carpio :)
I knew going into this video I couldn't afford any of this, I just watched for your b roll shots, they never disappoint, and this video didn't ether. That 4090 and pc build 👌 🤯🤯🤯
try out osu where i got 1000 fps with a vega 64. there a 540hz monitor will be noticed the most, its also the only game in which i notice a change from 240hz to 360hz
It was hard to decide between the ASUS ROG Swift Pro PG248QP 540hz TN with 1080p and ASUS ROG Swift PG27AQN 360hz IPS with 1440p… I went with the PG27AQN and I’m really impressed. Great review, thank you.
@@badseedtech Based on your experience you think i should return the PG27AQN and wait for January? When the new generation of oled 360hz drops? I’m just wondering if the motion blur technology will catch up…
@@formidable2368 no way to call it yet, but I'll be among the first to have access to the next gen OLED. Thing with any background strobed tech is that the brightness gets impacted severely just by turning it on. I would honestly be really surprised if the next gen OLEDs had enough brightness to implement any tech like ULMB2 or DyAc.
You should see if you can get your hands on the two new oled Alienware monitors coming out next month for review. One is 4k 32" 240Hz, and the other is QHD 27" 360Hz.
He should but I really doubt they're coming next month. It'll be for preorder only Id bet. I wonder who will launch first between them and Samsung who have at least confirmed their versions are in production.
GPUs are so stupidly overpowered its ridiculous and overkill af. I think anything 4070ti/7900xt and below just needs a really good CPU to benefit from, thats it. 4090, 4080, 7900xtx is just unused potential really, no CPU gonna match with them good. Im definitely upgrading CPU to match my gpu sometime next year, cheers to a good video as usual
nice finally a new monitor video! could you review the Innocn 27G1S? its a 27ich 1440p 240hz monitor for 300$ and every review i found says it can easily be on par or surpass ips/tn panels in clarity and motion handling without the typical black level smearing. but i think the most reviews are probably bought... would be amazing to have a trusted reviewer check it out!
I bought innocn 27g1s recently and I had some doubts as well with other reviews at first but I bought it anyway and I can confirm it has really good motion handling and clarity out of 8 gaming monitors I've used till now which includes tn and ips monitor. Colors and contrast are really good as well. Panel is bright enough. The only downside is viewing angle looks bit washed out but not too bad. Black smearing is non existent as well. I'm getting more headshot and kills in cod mw3 with this monitor compared to my old gaming monitors.
Some people also reported to have flickering and artifacts with innocn 27g1s while turning on adaptive sync but it isn't the issue at least in my unit.
Thanks for the review. Just a point. RAM is proven to be very important for 1080p when GPU is under-utilised. Your CPU is also under utilised and that’s because of the RAM. Running ddr4 here doesn’t make this monitor review justice as I’m sure if you were running high speed DDR5 (~7000Mhz) kits you would see much higher results across the board, upwards of around 10-20% in some cases or even more I’m sure. Don’t neglect the importance of RAM these days. I run CS2 on 1440p with a 4090, 13900k and DDR5@6000Mhz and run consistently above 500 fps, often in the 6-700s. I just ordered this monitor to try out some gameplay in CS2, overwatch, warzone etc.
The Carpio's are nice, but I'd also recommend getting a Logitech MX Vertical. Being in IT - on a computer for 8+ hours a day - it's been a WRISTsaver. Think of it like when you put your arms down on the table. You're not putting your hands down, you're putting the side of your wrist down, which is where the logitech slots nicely. No twisting necessary in the forearm to hold your mouse is nice to have.
Waiting for Zowie 540hz… Their dyac technology should support both AMD and NVIDIA, so I’m looking forward to that. Might return my Asus 540hz for that.
i got my responce time under 1-2ms of my current hz. probably gonna pick the 540 up just cause im aware my current bottleneck is my monitor. gg and ty for the review
A note about Siege, It's one of my primary games and on both my systems, I can maintain above 540 fps pretty much all the time so I jumped on this monitor as soon as I could find it available. Fast forward to actually getting it and testing it, Siege doesnt even support 540hz... Or 500. Or anything in the 400s or even 390. The game stops support at 360hz and a brief trip around R6FIX and reddit indicates that the developers of the game dont plan on supporting anything above 360hz. The quote on this was from about a year ago but from what I can tell, nothing's changed. When youre in-game, you can SET the refresh rate to 540hz but it will always revert back to 360hz as soon as you leave the display tab. You can double check/confirm this via the monitor's built in display that shows what refresh rate it's actually running. Super disappointing, because yeah, This is one of the very few games out there that I can consistently run 500+ all the time (14900K/4090/7600 DDR5/Intel APO system and 7800X3D/7900XTX) on this game specifically. I also own the PG27AQN and find myself running that instead!
One slight caveat to this is you can get around the "non-support" of 540hz or anything above 360hz by playing in borderless windowed mode. It will run at 540hz there but is incompatible in fullscreen exclusive for some awful, unknown reason. @@badseedtech
yeah i can confirm this is true. i own the pg248qp and when u switch to 500hz in game settings, it reverts to 360hz. Its really disappointing. This is the only game i play. @badseedtech
Yeah 1080P... no reason for a RTX 4090 just need the fastest CPU out there. Here I am trying to pick out 4K monitors because I dont feel 1440 is enough lol
Even at lower fps like 60fps and 120fps gaming such as consoles, its response time is an unbelievably 2.5ms. 16.7ms / 8.3ms VS 2.5ms. So fighting games, GTA 5, PS5/Xbox players will hugely benefit from that eTN panel unbelievable speed. Visual beauty? ❌️ Winning in multiplayer?✅️
MW3 .. You're missing a setting for unlimited FPS. The column that you're under caps it at 300 FPS. I would try DLSS Quality and there's no way that you can't get your frame rate at least into the 400s if not the 500s @1920x1080. I can easily get my i9-13900K / RTX 4090 to ~300FPS @ 3440x1440 with MAX (High/Ultra) settings and DLSS Quality. CPU-Z J8P8UR
@@futureitpro3511its probably your CPU. CPU wont let you go very high unless its a year old or less and absolute top of the line. But its under settings>graphics>display and about halfway down under “sustainability” you can set your custom framerate limit or uncap it completely. Make sure you read carefully because there are setting for in game, menus and out of focus mode.
@@mryellow6918 .. Unless you are using some form of Frame Synchronization e.g. FreeSync or G-Sync then you're going to have "smudge" in the form of tearing. However, the video has more to do with a 500 Hz / 540 Hz OC G-Sync monitor so you need to unlock the unlimited frame rate, the custom slider limits your frame rate to 300 FPS not 250 or whatever. _FYI: As far as the Unlimited setting, I have no idea how high that can go. When I use it I see an occasional 340 FPS, but the frame rate is very erratic and unstable at least for my max settings with DLSS Quality on my RTX 4090. I have not tried nor do I care to try 1920x1080 to see the absolute max possible on my PC._
Turn frame gen on in mwIII. I get 540 fps in cod with a 5800x3d and a 4090. It bumps my total system input lag from 6-7ms up to 11-13ms but the motion clarity is worth it and the input lag isn’t really noticeable. 540hz is something to behold for movment men.
i think the excitement should still be there cause its what the future holds, i think there will be games and optimizations for certain games so they can hit that 540 htz. It reminds me of the first 300 hertz monitors when they first came out, now we got 360 hertz 1440p with good colors and some games that can play it.
I have this monitor. My system is: CPU: 5800x3d RAM 32GB 3200Mhz 14 timings GPU RTX 3090 Honestly I mainly play Apex at 240fps, and I'd say if you can afford this monitor it's worth it, I know everyone will have their own opinion, but in terms of motion clarity it's just amazing. I came from a 240hz monitor and only bought this one due to the 240hz dying. My goal was "Ride this monitor out another 3 - 5 years and then upgrade to OLED once the tech has gotten there, and once 4k may be able to hit current 1080p frame rates" I just really can't say enough good things about it. It was everything I was wanting it to be.
How silly it is hearing about unoptimized PCs not being able to hit 540fps consistently. This video is a prime example on why tuning your RAM subtimings, voltages and Windows is so important. On my 7800x3d, I can hit 540fps consistently in OW2 at 1440p (competitive settings) and hold it at 540 no matter what. In Valorant, I can hold the same 540fps lock at 1440p. Oh and btw, I can do it whether I use a 4060ti or a 4090, since it's all CPU/RAM. Please please please people, learn about this.
People who are in the market for this type of monitor know this. Even alot of enthusiast level buyers wont care to spend the dozens of hours to max it out like that. Almost no one wants to trade stability for that
And also you arent getting 540fps on any game with a 4060ti man. Maybe at 720p with dlss but no way anyone is going to those lengths. CPU bottleneck on a 4090 doesnt mean you can get the same framerate on a lower end card dude thats not how that works
Also, you are using a CPU that performs better in certain games and you are running DDR5 also both of which he talked about in the video. I feel like you just commented to brag about your 540fps and the 100 hours you spend combing through every ship manifest for the library of Alexandria to gain 5 more fps and the 6400 runs of aida64 and memtest you ran you get your system stable. Did you get your bios title screen tattoo’d on your forearm?
@@absolutelysobeast I have a 4060ti that my gf used and I tested it throughly, my fps was 20 lower on average. 500 lock is easily possible with competitive settings because you’re still under 90% GPU utilization. Also, with a 7800x3d all I had to do was set up PBO -25 curve all cores, and then spend about 1 hour tweaking voltages and timings. I’m just at 6000mhz DDR5, my stability is guaranteed because I’m not doing anything that crazy, so I’ve been fine for 4 months. It’s not as complex as some people think, and it’s cheaper than his 13900k with DDR4 combo for more fps in basically every single esport title and most AAA titles as well. Not sure why you’re hating, this knowledge should be spread, not feared or shunned. A few hours of free tweaking for years of performance. Stop insulting and do better.
I bought the xl2566k 5 months ago. Ive only used it for maybe 6 hours. Been trying to sell it but im going to take such a loss on it. So its being used as a secondary monitor now.
I won't guarantee it, but I'm building a new PC and I'll need a 360hz monitor, who knows, maybe I'll negotiate it with you by then. Send me the ad link. 👍🏼
At 1080p use a 7800x3d, you will be fine in games like overwatch 2, rainbow six siege, valorant, and cs2. Intel right now is lagging behind amd for hitting good and high fps on games, its been covered for awhile. To be fair you make a point this is only a monitor for gaming in some specific games with the best cpu you can get atm which is the 7800x3d. In 2025 when the 9000 series comes out for amd, more games should be viable for this type of hz range for monitors tho.
I’m well happy with mine, I also run pg42uq as my main so versatility is not a huge concern for me. Maining OW 2 and I can pretty much run 500+ on a 4090
im running 7800x3d with DDR5 CL30 6000mhz, Dunno if faster kit is more beneficial for X3D but i'm gonna try it out when i manage to source a 7k+ - 8k mhz kits @@badseedtech
@@badseedtech13900K overclocked with tuned DDR5 smokes the 7800X3D. 7800X3D suffers from AMDip in CoD with terrible 0.1%, 1% lows in ACTUAL gameplay. source: framechasers and am a 7800X3D/4090 user.
yeah dude i am so tired of tuning and monitoring. I just wanna play my game and at reasonable wattage. 13900k is nice but and all but my house got a pretty decent heater already you know. @@jeffdmsl
Can you do a comparison between the 360hz PG27AQN and the 240hz OLED PG27AQDM because i can't find the PG27AQN anywhere where i live and only the OLED is available and not sure if i should go for the oled because of burn in and if 240hz is abit outdated compared to the 360hz options
Oh my god that gpu is incredible. The price matches the wow factor but damn that’s the first time I’ve seen an after market card that actually seems worth a hefty premium over a founders. If I was going for some sort of no compromise build, that would be the pick 100%. Also great monitor, but I just switched from the Alienware aw2523hf (1080p 360hz) to the ASUS xg27aqmr (300hz 1440p) and I think it’s a much more balanced experience. Having been on 1440p since 2016 or so, the switch to 1080 was rough for everything but competitive games. It’s becoming a weird niche in 2023.
There must be a problem with your rig, I have no issues running Overwatch at 480+ average ultra textures on a 3080 10GB and 12700k, DDR5 manually tuned to 7800mhz.
And yes, everything for me is manually overclocked to the max, but there's no way I should catch up to your rig. DDR4 4100mhz+ should be near my performance level.
Im thinking memory speed has a lot to do with it. I have a weird motherboard that dropped when the 12900k did but still supported DDR4 bc the early DDR5 was still wip. Gonna rebuild in a couple weeks with a 7800x3d and some DDR5 and revisit
For PUBG, testing a big city would be more beneficial as it affects the GPU the most. With a 4090 on 1080p low you're lucky to get 300 fps while being in a major city like georgopol or yasnaya. Fighting there is pretty demanding on the GPU and you always run into a cpu bottleneck.
There is definitely an advantage to using this over a 360 hz monitor, even if you can't keep your 1% lows over 540. You don't need to run ULMB. I play halo and there is definitely an advantage with the 400-500 frames I get.
I used it for several days, the image problem is not caused by the resolution but by the poor quality coating which adds a multitude of shiny parasitic effects, to judge for yourself, you can do the experience and reproduce this effect on your current monitor by placing a wet finger, this is really the major fault of this monitor, I hope that the origin of the problem is not the liquid crystal pixels of the AUO panel otherwise Zowie XL2586X and Acer XV242F will have this same problem
The difference is very negligible more than 144hz and 165hz, possibly when they release 720hz or 1000hz that's when the difference are going to become more pronounce but 360hz is high enough most would have trouble telling between 360hz and 1000hz as its not even a 2ms difference.
There's something wrong with how your CPU performs on COD. I get pretty much identical numbers with my 5600X. Usually changing the RendererWorkerCount value in the config to something close to your core count can squeeze out a decent amount of performance but your 13900K should be reaching 400+fps so it can't be just that.
I have a Acer XV242F which is the same panel as ASUS and it's only half price, the experience is good however I eventually go back to 2K 240Hz OLED because the clarity in far distance is way better than 1080p, you can really aim at a target, not some pixels 😂
Great review. I bought the same monitor few days ago but after only 2 days of use I noticed it developed some weird dark spots in the middle of the screen. These are visible when I'm displaying a black background and slightly on gray, not visible on other colors. Could you please check yours and let me know if you are having the same issue?
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Yes - I know I missed a number on the graphic at 11:23 - it wasn't worth re-rendering the whole video again lol
OH and the PG27AQN is on sale at Amazon rn for $899 and the lowest I've seen it. Still a ton of money for sure, but if you're been waiting for a sale, here it is - geni.us/BPs76T
@badseedtech zowie has announced today a new xl2586kx 540 hz with dyac2
Did you see Zowie's annoucement about their upcoming 540hz panel with Dyac2?
you should see how rocket league uncapped test it hits wayy over 600fps uncapped
Thanks for the review! Would you still recommend the pg27aqn over the newer OLED 360hz 1440p 27’ for a competitive gamer?
I wish you tried it with frame generator on mw3. When I enable frame generator I get over 800fps on mw3.
Still my favorite channel when it comes to reviews and takes on tech. Came for the mice back in the day, stayed for the professionally structured videos and transparency on biases and opinions.
Appreciate you fr!
Your channel is such a great way to unwind and relax.
I love that you watch optimum. Every video he posts is so premium IMO. He is not as widespread or as continuously posting as you are, ut whenever he does post, he's got me and probably just about every subscriber HOOKED from start till finish. Not to take anything away from the Badseed, quite the opposite, but the production quality and niche on optimum tech is just.. something else
Ah yeah, we chat from time to time. The gold standard of pc tech channels imo He also posts WAY more than I do - he's a machine.
+1 for Carpio. Legit game changer product for office work. It's basically like sleeping without a pillow your whole life and then somebody invents the pillow.
Right?? I was very skeptical and I honestly can't believe the difference its made. Thats a seriously great analogy too lol
@@badseedtech I know I am late to the Party but mine arrived today and I am surprised how natural it feels to use! I am Considering one for my left hand aswell since regular wrist rests are a little uncomfortable for me, does someone here have some expierence with that?
Thing to note on Optimum’s recommendations is that he’s a competitive nut. It’s his bread, butter and crack. The guy made the lightest mouse in the world and would sell his own mother for a higher refresh rate. So if that sounds like you then yeah he might be your go to for recommendations. Anyone else nah.
I can also vouch for the Carpio. Wish it was around years ago when I needed carpel tunnel surgery on both hands. Great video. Enjoying the daily uploads as well.
Rhythm games. That is another thing this would be good for, DJMAX, EZ2ON are two I play and I use a 360hz monitor for them, don't think a 540 would matter too much tbh but there are more games than just the ones you mentioned. OSU Mania maybe ( I don't like it so don't know how much FPS they allow up to ), Etterna and more. This is 100% a niche product but its awesome to see them pushing for more stuff like this.
Personally I think grasping for higher refresh rates on rhythm games is a bit of a red herring. Just in terms of peripherals, I think low latency controls make a bigger difference and no one seems to be talking about the role low latency audio has in keysounded games. The Presonus Quantum series of Thunderbolt interfaces boasts sub-millisecond latency. I love to know if it makes any difference in EZ2ON, which already has industry leading audio latency, but I'm not about to throw down $700 to find out.
@@yahooeny Its a red herring to chase FPS full stop tbh.
@@lilpain1997 ehhhhhhhh it's important to a point. look. the monitor on the IIDX Lightning Model is objectively bad. TN, ghosts like a motherfucker. Doesn't matter, the jump from 60 to 120fps was a game changer. We are getting 12 MAXs now. That did not happen before.
they have 360hz 1440p 27 qd oled panels coming from samsung next year. the native pixel response time of oled will likely mean a 360hz oled will be similar or faster responding compared to a 500hz tn with the added bonus of much better picture quality and contrast.
just for accuracy, the monitor size is 24.1 inch, so a tiny bit smaller than 24.5, thought this might be useful for those looking into the specifics.
Never knew this channel existed but this dude is one of the best momitor reviewers already in my eyes after just watching this one review. Really good stuff!
What a nice in debth review - Thanks!
I’ve been watching your videos for years love the quality and detail of every episode
Thanks man!
for fortnite you should've used preformance mode in the rendering mode section instead of the low preset as the majority of people that play it run it on preformance mode to squeeze out as many frames as possible
7800x3D is a must surely.
Bout to find out lol
@@badseedtechdid u get that 7800x3d
Such a damn informative video. I had to subscribe brother.
if you are having wrist issues I urge you to do hand stretching exercises at least 2-3 times every session(2-3hours) and also if you add pull ups and dead hangs the problem will be gone forever.
Thank you! So many games cannot even run at this. It makes more sense to round out features for ALL the gamers a user is going to play.
Hi Bri, 🥰👋. I’ve been using the original Carpio wrist wrest for over 2yrs now and for me, they are worth the money and are great for long gaming / productivity sessions😇💪👍!
Love to hear it. I don't think I've *ever* had this many co-signs on a sponsor spot.
Great review! Wonder if ULMB2 is still better than the Benq XL2586X with DyAc2 that just got announced today.
Great video!! keep'em coming chief!
you grew your channel really fast keep it up dude!
Haha I really didn't. I've been doing this for 8.5 years.
@@badseedtech oh okay its all good at least you’re doing it i haven’t started anything really. And i should’ve mentioned i found you i think when you was at like 10 or 20k subs. It just felt really fast. Lol
It's monitors like this and all the new GPU's that have me scratching my head everytime I go into PC Graphic settings on a video game to find V-Sync Ticked ON. lol one of the first things I uncheck these days...and then motion blur right after. Stellar vid as always!
Just to note, rainbow six is my main game and the benchmark compared to in game is drastically different. I get 600 in benchmark and in game I sit around 340 - 450 (depending on what operators are being played).
I got hyped when you said it is a TN panel. i dont like IPS or VA or OLED at all. I play games wich dont take much to run. So this monitor would be great for smooth gameplay at 540Hz. I think it is funny how people allways forget that there is other games than the mainstream games cuz there is thousands of games that will run way above 540hz . But the price is to high. Might wait a year or two and hope the price drops
Lol why did you get hyped at the worst looking display type by far when up until now the only other notable offering (the zowie) still had moderately SLOWER response times than the 1440p IPS 360hz from asus?
@@Frozoken I had to check my house for cameras in case i was being pranked. Because in the first part of my comment i said why i got hyped over TN. IPS VA and OLED i just dont like them at all. They suck in my opinion. IPS just hurts my eyes to look at. VA is blurr city. And OLED anything other than gaming or watching movies is a big nope
Have u tried odyssey g7? @@loolgam1ng229
Such great videos as usual! Thanks for the advice
I can confirm I use the Carpio G 2.0 (G standing for gamer I'm pretty sure) and it has a rubber strap instead of just being a free wrist support like the 2.0. I personally love the G 2.0 as it helps me when editing or when I'm playing an extremely high APM game (RoR2 with huntress or mercenary). With valorant it's a bit tough but my wrist issues have gone down tremendously since buying the G 2.0 so I don't need it for everything anymore. HIGHLY recommend. I have also bought third party 3D printed wrist supports on amazon and they do not work the same at all. They feel either too stiff or don't support my hand as well. Highly recommend just buying the Carpio :)
Interesting... Will buy one for myself.
@@Valorshine see for yourself brotha. Trust me carpal tunnel will be in the past after buying it. I might even review it soon on my channel
I knew going into this video I couldn't afford any of this, I just watched for your b roll shots, they never disappoint, and this video didn't ether. That 4090 and pc build 👌 🤯🤯🤯
try out osu where i got 1000 fps with a vega 64. there a 540hz monitor will be noticed the most, its also the only game in which i notice a change from 240hz to 360hz
It was hard to decide between the ASUS ROG Swift Pro PG248QP 540hz TN with 1080p and ASUS ROG Swift PG27AQN 360hz IPS with 1440p… I went with the PG27AQN and I’m really impressed. Great review, thank you.
Oh definitely. IPS > TN, 1440p > 1080p. I wouldn't take 540hz over 360hz with those downsides.
Wise choice my man
@@khonjel_singhI actually bought pg27uqr thats 4k160hz to accommodate my rtx 4080
@@badseedtech Based on your experience you think i should return the PG27AQN and wait for January? When the new generation of oled 360hz drops? I’m just wondering if the motion blur technology will catch up…
@@formidable2368 no way to call it yet, but I'll be among the first to have access to the next gen OLED. Thing with any background strobed tech is that the brightness gets impacted severely just by turning it on. I would honestly be really surprised if the next gen OLEDs had enough brightness to implement any tech like ULMB2 or DyAc.
You should see if you can get your hands on the two new oled Alienware monitors coming out next month for review. One is 4k 32" 240Hz, and the other is QHD 27" 360Hz.
He should but I really doubt they're coming next month. It'll be for preorder only Id bet. I wonder who will launch first between them and Samsung who have at least confirmed their versions are in production.
Thanks for the insightful review, mate. I also envy your beard/barber magic. Cheers!
GPUs are so stupidly overpowered its ridiculous and overkill af. I think anything 4070ti/7900xt and below just needs a really good CPU to benefit from, thats it. 4090, 4080, 7900xtx is just unused potential really, no CPU gonna match with them good. Im definitely upgrading CPU to match my gpu sometime next year, cheers to a good video as usual
The Matrix 4090 gots a liquid cooled 12pin on it?
Built in *Fire Suppression System* 🤘🧐
You sold me on the audeze Maxwell and now I’m here to work on my pc since I love the Maxwell on ps5 :)
nice finally a new monitor video!
could you review the Innocn 27G1S? its a 27ich 1440p 240hz monitor for 300$ and every review i found says it can easily be on par or surpass ips/tn panels in clarity and motion handling without the typical black level smearing. but i think the most reviews are probably bought... would be amazing to have a trusted reviewer check it out!
I'll see whats up with it. I need to get a budget/mid tier monitor round up set for spring bc these new flagship panels are insanely expensive.
I just got a Asus TUF 260Hz 1440p IPS monitor for $400.
I bought innocn 27g1s recently and I had some doubts as well with other reviews at first but I bought it anyway and I can confirm it has really good motion handling and clarity out of 8 gaming monitors I've used till now which includes tn and ips monitor. Colors and contrast are really good as well. Panel is bright enough. The only downside is viewing angle looks bit washed out but not too bad. Black smearing is non existent as well. I'm getting more headshot and kills in cod mw3 with this monitor compared to my old gaming monitors.
Some people also reported to have flickering and artifacts with innocn 27g1s while turning on adaptive sync but it isn't the issue at least in my unit.
Thanks for the review. Just a point. RAM is proven to be very important for 1080p when GPU is under-utilised. Your CPU is also under utilised and that’s because of the RAM. Running ddr4 here doesn’t make this monitor review justice as I’m sure if you were running high speed DDR5 (~7000Mhz) kits you would see much higher results across the board, upwards of around 10-20% in some cases or even more I’m sure. Don’t neglect the importance of RAM these days. I run CS2 on 1440p with a 4090, 13900k and DDR5@6000Mhz and run consistently above 500 fps, often in the 6-700s. I just ordered this monitor to try out some gameplay in CS2, overwatch, warzone etc.
The Carpio's are nice, but I'd also recommend getting a Logitech MX Vertical. Being in IT - on a computer for 8+ hours a day - it's been a WRISTsaver. Think of it like when you put your arms down on the table. You're not putting your hands down, you're putting the side of your wrist down, which is where the logitech slots nicely. No twisting necessary in the forearm to hold your mouse is nice to have.
Waiting for Zowie 540hz… Their dyac technology should support both AMD and NVIDIA, so I’m looking forward to that. Might return my Asus 540hz for that.
Did you see the announcement video today?
@@liamobrien9451 yeah
@@liamobrien9451 of what
i got my responce time under 1-2ms of my current hz. probably gonna pick the 540 up just cause im aware my current bottleneck is my monitor. gg and ty for the review
A note about Siege, It's one of my primary games and on both my systems, I can maintain above 540 fps pretty much all the time so I jumped on this monitor as soon as I could find it available.
Fast forward to actually getting it and testing it, Siege doesnt even support 540hz... Or 500. Or anything in the 400s or even 390. The game stops support at 360hz and a brief trip around R6FIX and reddit indicates that the developers of the game dont plan on supporting anything above 360hz. The quote on this was from about a year ago but from what I can tell, nothing's changed.
When youre in-game, you can SET the refresh rate to 540hz but it will always revert back to 360hz as soon as you leave the display tab. You can double check/confirm this via the monitor's built in display that shows what refresh rate it's actually running.
Super disappointing, because yeah, This is one of the very few games out there that I can consistently run 500+ all the time (14900K/4090/7600 DDR5/Intel APO system and 7800X3D/7900XTX) on this game specifically.
I also own the PG27AQN and find myself running that instead!
Good looking out. Appreciate the info!
One slight caveat to this is you can get around the "non-support" of 540hz or anything above 360hz by playing in borderless windowed mode. It will run at 540hz there but is incompatible in fullscreen exclusive for some awful, unknown reason. @@badseedtech
yeah i can confirm this is true. i own the pg248qp and when u switch to 500hz in game settings, it reverts to 360hz. Its really disappointing. This is the only game i play. @badseedtech
Yeah I'll stick with 240hz 1080p for less than $250 :) **most notably the viewsonic xg2431 very low input lag and response time and way cheaper*
DyAc2 vs ULMB2 next video
7800x3d would help close up some of these 1% lows
Who are the other 6 people that kept watching?
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Yeah 1080P... no reason for a RTX 4090 just need the fastest CPU out there.
Here I am trying to pick out 4K monitors because I dont feel 1440 is enough lol
I feel you as someone very sensitive to both resolution and refresh rate lmao.
I think the ultimate esports panel shall be: 600Hz WOLED/AMOLED with HDR True Black 400 even at 1080p, absolutely crushing 540Hz E-TN panel
Great review!!!
Even at lower fps like 60fps and 120fps gaming such as consoles, its response time is an unbelievably 2.5ms.
16.7ms / 8.3ms VS 2.5ms.
So fighting games, GTA 5, PS5/Xbox players will hugely benefit from that eTN panel unbelievable speed.
Visual beauty? ❌️
Winning in multiplayer?✅️
MW3 .. You're missing a setting for unlimited FPS. The column that you're under caps it at 300 FPS. I would try DLSS Quality and there's no way that you can't get your frame rate at least into the 400s if not the 500s @1920x1080. I can easily get my i9-13900K / RTX 4090 to ~300FPS @ 3440x1440 with MAX (High/Ultra) settings and DLSS Quality.
CPU-Z J8P8UR
My fps is locked at 250fps , how are you getting it higher ? I've tried everything including DLSS
@@futureitpro3511its probably your CPU. CPU wont let you go very high unless its a year old or less and absolute top of the line. But its under settings>graphics>display and about halfway down under “sustainability” you can set your custom framerate limit or uncap it completely. Make sure you read carefully because there are setting for in game, menus and out of focus mode.
@@futureitpro3511 .. Graphics / Display / (sustainability) .. Custom Frame Rate Limit = UNLIMITED.
CUSTOM is the Default
Personally in the real world I recommend / Custom (Show More):
Gameplay custom frame rate limit = (monitors refresh rate -1)
Menu custom frame rate limit = 60
Out of focus. Custom frame rate limit = 60
What's the point in a high refresh rate if your gonna smudge every frame
@@mryellow6918 .. Unless you are using some form of Frame Synchronization e.g. FreeSync or G-Sync then you're going to have "smudge" in the form of tearing. However, the video has more to do with a 500 Hz / 540 Hz OC G-Sync monitor so you need to unlock the unlimited frame rate, the custom slider limits your frame rate to 300 FPS not 250 or whatever.
_FYI: As far as the Unlimited setting, I have no idea how high that can go. When I use it I see an occasional 340 FPS, but the frame rate is very erratic and unstable at least for my max settings with DLSS Quality on my RTX 4090. I have not tried nor do I care to try 1920x1080 to see the absolute max possible on my PC._
I loved my matrix 4090, except its not in a case. Can’t wait for the y70 to come in stock and build in it
im a grandmaster 1 overwatch 2 player and was peak ranked 70 before this monitor. after this monitor, my peak was 69.
The first time I played on a 144 hz monitor I thought it was amazing... now we've really reached a bit of overkill IMO.
Good stuff as always!
Turn frame gen on in mwIII. I get 540 fps in cod with a 5800x3d and a 4090. It bumps my total system input lag from 6-7ms up to 11-13ms but the motion clarity is worth it and the input lag isn’t really noticeable. 540hz is something to behold for movment men.
That's pretty terrible
Frame gen makes motion clarity worse wtf
@@omegaPhix more fps = more motion clarity.
@@Haunteral not interpolated fps
@@omegaPhix go read some more blurbusters. You’ll figure it out.
i think the excitement should still be there cause its what the future holds, i think there will be games and optimizations for certain games so they can hit that 540 htz. It reminds me of the first 300 hertz monitors when they first came out, now we got 360 hertz 1440p with good colors and some games that can play it.
I have this monitor. My system is:
CPU: 5800x3d
RAM 32GB 3200Mhz 14 timings
GPU RTX 3090
Honestly I mainly play Apex at 240fps, and I'd say if you can afford this monitor it's worth it, I know everyone will have their own opinion, but in terms of motion clarity it's just amazing. I came from a 240hz monitor and only bought this one due to the 240hz dying. My goal was "Ride this monitor out another 3 - 5 years and then upgrade to OLED once the tech has gotten there, and once 4k may be able to hit current 1080p frame rates" I just really can't say enough good things about it. It was everything I was wanting it to be.
@badseedtech can you PLEASE review the geon raptor he switches in the wooting and do a stem swap with lekker stems
How silly it is hearing about unoptimized PCs not being able to hit 540fps consistently. This video is a prime example on why tuning your RAM subtimings, voltages and Windows is so important. On my 7800x3d, I can hit 540fps consistently in OW2 at 1440p (competitive settings) and hold it at 540 no matter what. In Valorant, I can hold the same 540fps lock at 1440p. Oh and btw, I can do it whether I use a 4060ti or a 4090, since it's all CPU/RAM. Please please please people, learn about this.
People who are in the market for this type of monitor know this. Even alot of enthusiast level buyers wont care to spend the dozens of hours to max it out like that. Almost no one wants to trade stability for that
And also you arent getting 540fps on any game with a 4060ti man. Maybe at 720p with dlss but no way anyone is going to those lengths. CPU bottleneck on a 4090 doesnt mean you can get the same framerate on a lower end card dude thats not how that works
Also, you are using a CPU that performs better in certain games and you are running DDR5 also both of which he talked about in the video. I feel like you just commented to brag about your 540fps and the 100 hours you spend combing through every ship manifest for the library of Alexandria to gain 5 more fps and the 6400 runs of aida64 and memtest you ran you get your system stable. Did you get your bios title screen tattoo’d on your forearm?
@@absolutelysobeast I have a 4060ti that my gf used and I tested it throughly, my fps was 20 lower on average. 500 lock is easily possible with competitive settings because you’re still under 90% GPU utilization.
Also, with a 7800x3d all I had to do was set up PBO -25 curve all cores, and then spend about 1 hour tweaking voltages and timings. I’m just at 6000mhz DDR5, my stability is guaranteed because I’m not doing anything that crazy, so I’ve been fine for 4 months. It’s not as complex as some people think, and it’s cheaper than his 13900k with DDR4 combo for more fps in basically every single esport title and most AAA titles as well. Not sure why you’re hating, this knowledge should be spread, not feared or shunned. A few hours of free tweaking for years of performance. Stop insulting and do better.
@@absolutelysobeast absolutely 0 beast should be your new name. Scared of tweaking your pc for 1 hour lmao, that’s a new level of pssy
I was thinking of getting a carpio years ago but I was always skeptical. Might have to grab one now.
I swear by that thing fr
Also, you can't have HDMI 2.1 and a GSYNC module. That's not Asus fault, it's Nvidia's for having such an outdated Gsync module.
I prefer higher picture quality with my 4k 120hz OLED over low res and high refreshrate. Everything over 90FPS is smooth enough for me.
I bought the xl2566k 5 months ago. Ive only used it for maybe 6 hours. Been trying to sell it but im going to take such a loss on it. So its being used as a secondary monitor now.
I'm in the same spot right now. I've had mine listed at $350 for months and not even one person has messaged me about it.
I won't guarantee it, but I'm building a new PC and I'll need a 360hz monitor, who knows, maybe I'll negotiate it with you by then. Send me the ad link. 👍🏼
At 1080p use a 7800x3d, you will be fine in games like overwatch 2, rainbow six siege, valorant, and cs2.
Intel right now is lagging behind amd for hitting good and high fps on games, its been covered for awhile. To be fair you make a point this is only a monitor for gaming in some specific games with the best cpu you can get atm which is the 7800x3d. In 2025 when the 9000 series comes out for amd, more games should be viable for this type of hz range for monitors tho.
I’m well happy with mine, I also run pg42uq as my main so versatility is not a huge concern for me. Maining OW 2 and I can pretty much run 500+ on a 4090
Yeah I feel like OW 2 is one of the few that can really take advantage. I'm about to rebuild this gaming rig too with a 7800X3d and some DDR5.
im running 7800x3d with DDR5 CL30 6000mhz, Dunno if faster kit is more beneficial for X3D but i'm gonna try it out when i manage to source a 7k+ - 8k mhz kits @@badseedtech
@@badseedtech13900K overclocked with tuned DDR5 smokes the 7800X3D. 7800X3D suffers from AMDip in CoD with terrible 0.1%, 1% lows in ACTUAL gameplay. source: framechasers and am a 7800X3D/4090 user.
yeah dude i am so tired of tuning and monitoring. I just wanna play my game and at reasonable wattage. 13900k is nice but and all but my house got a pretty decent heater already you know. @@jeffdmsl
@@jeffdmslmost reviews I've seen the 7800x3d is better in almost every game
I recently bought Zowie and I don’t regret it even going from a 27 inch 1440p 144hz monitor.
may i know what games do you play
@@asahisaiba1072 just overwatch 2
This video just serves to highlights the absolute ridiculousness of the monitor & that 4090. Great entertainment as always.
DDR5, tight timings and overclock etc is probably needed even then still going to need potato mode, which begs the question
Can you do a comparison between the 360hz PG27AQN and the 240hz OLED PG27AQDM because i can't find the PG27AQN anywhere where i live and only the OLED is available and not sure if i should go for the oled because of burn in and if 240hz is abit outdated compared to the 360hz options
Oh my god that gpu is incredible. The price matches the wow factor but damn that’s the first time I’ve seen an after market card that actually seems worth a hefty premium over a founders. If I was going for some sort of no compromise build, that would be the pick 100%. Also great monitor, but I just switched from the Alienware aw2523hf (1080p 360hz) to the ASUS xg27aqmr (300hz 1440p) and I think it’s a much more balanced experience. Having been on 1440p since 2016 or so, the switch to 1080 was rough for everything but competitive games. It’s becoming a weird niche in 2023.
Based god still playing Quake Champions
There must be a problem with your rig, I have no issues running Overwatch at 480+ average ultra textures on a 3080 10GB and 12700k, DDR5 manually tuned to 7800mhz.
And yes, everything for me is manually overclocked to the max, but there's no way I should catch up to your rig. DDR4 4100mhz+ should be near my performance level.
Im thinking memory speed has a lot to do with it. I have a weird motherboard that dropped when the 12900k did but still supported DDR4 bc the early DDR5 was still wip. Gonna rebuild in a couple weeks with a 7800x3d and some DDR5 and revisit
@@badseedtech7800X3D is the bomb, you’ll love it.
"Scale back from the PC or the Gym". Bro that like 95% of my life lol
Lol same man. That answer just wasn't gonna cut it.
For PUBG, testing a big city would be more beneficial as it affects the GPU the most.
With a 4090 on 1080p low you're lucky to get 300 fps while being in a major city like georgopol or yasnaya. Fighting there is pretty demanding on the GPU and you always run into a cpu bottleneck.
There is definitely an advantage to using this over a 360 hz monitor, even if you can't keep your 1% lows over 540. You don't need to run ULMB. I play halo and there is definitely an advantage with the 400-500 frames I get.
same panel up for preorder on taobao at $500. or you can get 2566k equivalent for $200.
Opti Mum and Monitor Subboxed are great channels.
You going to review the Astro a50x. If so looking forward against the stealth
I used it for several days, the image problem is not caused by the resolution but by the poor quality coating which adds a multitude of shiny parasitic effects, to judge for yourself, you can do the experience and reproduce this effect on your current monitor by placing a wet finger, this is really the major fault of this monitor, I hope that the origin of the problem is not the liquid crystal pixels of the AUO panel otherwise Zowie XL2586X and Acer XV242F will have this same problem
I probably could get it maxed out on Rocket League.. butter smooth goals and dribbles..
Sir, it's finally a good time to upgrade to DDR5. I'd recommend the Asrock Z790 Nova WiFi with GSkill F5-6000J3636F32GX2-TZ5RK
And Zowie announces theirs less than a day after this video, LOL
The difference is very negligible more than 144hz and 165hz, possibly when they release 720hz or 1000hz that's when the difference are going to become more pronounce but 360hz is high enough most would have trouble telling between 360hz and 1000hz as its not even a 2ms difference.
Damn, Brian flexing with the OG Samsung skin in Fortnite …..
Good video! Also what am i missing? i have this monitor but i cant have ULMB2 and OD switched On at the same time, is it by design?
There's something wrong with how your CPU performs on COD. I get pretty much identical numbers with my 5600X.
Usually changing the RendererWorkerCount value in the config to something close to your core count can squeeze out a decent amount of performance but your 13900K should be reaching 400+fps so it can't be just that.
I'd like 2 RTX 4090's with that please
Holy fuck your beard is on point
Thanks man!
We gotta wait for like 2 generations before 540hz is even worth considering at this point
Brother, that shit is wild!!
This backing music CANNOT be used again, has some weird shrieks in the background that had me asking my GF if she was ok due to wearing IEM's at my PC
Should of done the tests on a ryzen 7000 x3d pushes alot more fps on 1080p
900 for a tn... yea this is an extremely niche product
I think a 1440p is prob a better choice for high end Gpu if there’s a market for it
I have a Acer XV242F which is the same panel as ASUS and it's only half price, the experience is good however I eventually go back to 2K 240Hz OLED because the clarity in far distance is way better than 1080p, you can really aim at a target, not some pixels 😂
Zowie is coming out with their 540hz monitor soon. XL2586X
What should pulse offset be at?
they should stop focusing on 540hz and make 24-25 inch 1440p 240hz.
Great review. I bought the same monitor few days ago but after only 2 days of use I noticed it developed some weird dark spots in the middle of the screen. These are visible when I'm displaying a black background and slightly on gray, not visible on other colors. Could you please check yours and let me know if you are having the same issue?
Have you ever reviewed any good 32" monitors for gaming? (yeah I know 27" is the apparent king but I have reasons for 32")
I know the exact monitors target audience: Minecraft PVP. It’s the only game that could easily consistently hit 540