This is going to sound funny, but I never owned a Daisy 880 or a Crosman pump BB gun. I have decided that I am going to by a Daisy 880 for my Birthday!
I don't think I've ever been able to get a group that tight with BB's at 20 yards before, with ANY type of BB gun whatsoever! That was really good for that distance. And open sights even! Of course that tight group with the pellets and open sights was to be expected I guess, the 880 is great with pellets.
I think pellets are gonna be more accurate. I've noticed bbs taking a sharp nosedive in mine around 25 yds...but that's just my opinion and my experience is limited on the 880 as I've not been shooting it lately. I guess I'll get to find out!!..
Rifled barrel and STEEL BBs is bad, you can run Copperhead (copper) BBs as the copper is less likely to wear the rifling since its softer. Steel BBs smooth out the rifling for sure.
Dang missed ya bud I was playing music. Hope you're doing good, catch ya next time. Good video. Yea steel BB's will bounce back at you in a hurry, a friend nearly took my eye out once. At distance you can see some curve & the faster you shoot them the more they can curve. Pellets way more accurate for sure & safer!
You seemed a bit disappointed in the BB performance. I thought, for 20 yds., that was amazing. Of course, I expected the pellets to be significantly better and they were. Again, for 20 yds., really good from a lower powered, inexpensive rifle, with open sights, no less! Thanks for the demonstration.
I noticed the same thing without this video. I shoot from my back porch into the garden about 35-40 feet out. I can't hit CRAP with BBs, but pellets always work great. I'm glad I can see how much it's off side by side. They even drop much quicker. I have to aim high to make it to the garden with BBs.. and my yard is a downward slope lol. Just got the 880 a few weeks back to give me something to do that isn't just drinking and watching youtube news shows. Videos about the pellet gun I own help keep me interested in what all I can do with it. If only the MN police wouldn't shoot me if I brought it into the woods with my husky for actual squirrel hunting. Curse of living in the suburbs. I can bring it to a gun range, but paying money to be the dude at the range with a BB Gun when everyone else is using handguns, I'm not about to get laughed at lol...
If you haven’t already, check out the truglo 4x32 on sale at midway right now. I ran that scope for a while on here. Little blurry. But, the price is right and it comes with rings. They have a decent selection of pellets too. Check out my 880 playlist. It’s a fantastic air rifle.
Very good video thank you! I was going crazy figuring why my Ekol Thunder M .22 pellet springer groups shots in 1 inch while my Daisy Red Ryder 4.5 bb springer shoots groups in 1 hand sized area in same shooting conditions. It's the bbs!!!! 😂🙏🏻 I'd say from my experience with the Red Ryder and this video of yours, bbs are for shooting tin can sized plinking targets only. For hunting only use pellets, since bbs are too small for lethal wounds in large game and too inaccurate for precission aiming in small game, shots will miss and animals would be wounded and in pain but likely escape since hitting a vital on a small game animal has more to do with luck than with aiming when using bbs.
BBs are only used in my Red Ryders. I don't ever use BBs over pellets if I can. For example my Umerex SA10 CO2 pistol has never had a BB fired out of it... only pellets. I learned as a kid, never shoot a BB over a pellet unless your gun only fires BBs.
for sure, if you're going to shoot BB's get a spring-plunger Daisy, polish+lube its guts. FrogLube did little wonders for 3 of them here, air cylinder and shot tube treated gave all 3 a 10% velocity increase. FrogLube is intended for small firearms but air power sure likes it!
I bought a pair of Daisy 35s for me and my wife to plink with. I've been amazed at how accurate they are with BBs. 3 pumps seems to be the magic number.
Writing this before watching you shoot. BV's, from the shooting U"be done, are a waste of time. That includes my Daisy Buck and Red Ryder, my Daisy 880, my Corpsman new model 770, and my Crosman 2100. I have a Crosman CO2 BB pistol that isn't too bad. BB's throw uncalled flyers all over the place. From whatI know, the only BB rifles that have any accuracy are the Daisy Avanti 499 at about $150, and, some owners got decent accuracy from the, now discontinued I believe, Umarex Morph in rifle form. The Daisy is literally a single muzzle loader with a very tight barrel and low velocity, while the Morph could push BB"s out at over 500 fps. The Daisy is designed for 5 meter matches, and at that it excells. The Morph showed that people that say BB"s are most accurate at 300 fps and under (or fill in the blank), are simply wrong. Now, on to your video!
John neet, I have a morph 3x and you are correct about it totally. Mine was shooting in the 680fps on a hot summer day and It tore up the target at 28 yds...
yup, BB's can do OK shot fast. RR here has cobalt327 setup and treated with FrogLube runs 365-370, decent at 15 yards. Crosman 760 open sights with 6 pumps on a BB runs about 460 can group tighter than the RR does. the 760 is an excellent budget BB gun, FrogLube the bore! you're stuck with the open sights unless you firm up a 760 a lot, the pump tube and barrel ARE kinda wobbly in relation to the receiver dovetail for a scope you're not going to need at 10-15 yards anyway, stock barrel mounted sites are good. slit the front for a fiber optic dot is easy, paint the slit white, let dry, then glue in the glow plastic. rear site flat 2.5 x 4 mm to the backside half the notch depth in yellow = glowing underscore to center the front pink/red dot over, really quick easy sight picture to pick up. done same to the RR and Buck here too.
I was really surprised at the BB group at 20 yards. It did better than I thought I don't think I would have shot the BBs past 10 yards. My favorite BB gun is my Daisy 25 pump action BB gun in my opinion that's the most fun you can have with a BB gun unless you get one of those CO2 full auto ones.
@@ohshoot444 You're right, and I don't care what anyone says, it will not hurt the rifling in an 880 to use BB's. I shot tens of thousands of them in my 880's back in the '80's and the rifling is still there and that barrel is still very accurate. 880's have that flat, shallow rifling that is designed to handle both BB's and pellets. But, having said all that, these days (just in case!), I never fire BB's out of my "good" 880's that I use for target shooting. Oh, and by the way, good luck getting a Crosman to shoot BB's straight! My Crosman 2100 shoots BB's terribly, they fly all over, like a 6" group at 10 yards, it's awful. Not sure why the 880 does so much better.
@@ohshoot444 Yes, when I ordered my new 880 (I live in a town and county in southern MN so small that there is not a Walmart within 45-50miles) I emailed Daisy with the question of whether or not BBs would harm the rifling in an 880. Daisy's response was "No." I also read in one of the comments on another of your videos that zinc is a softer metal. Thus zinc coated BBs should not harm a rifled barrel. I suspect copper is also a "soft" metal. Thus Daisy's zinc coated BBs and Crosman's Copper Tops should not harm an 880's rifled barrel.
I can’t get that legacy to shoot anything lol. I’m about to take it completely apart and figure it out. I recrowned it and it didn’t help at all. Way too much barrel movement.
I wish Daisy would consider making an upgraded version of the 880! Don't get me wrong I love my 880 but It seems kind of cheap feeling. It would be nice If It had wood furniture and a more robust pumping arm! I would think Daisy would sell a ton of them even If the price was north of $200....The basic layout Is a winner, It just needs a little more of an upscale feel. Just a thought!
I grew up with a 880 I haven't watched the vid at this point and to clarify I never had a scope on my 880 but BB's were always best for me.. Lets see if it's still true..
When I am hunting with my daisy power line 880 any bird cant go away is dead with 7 pomps is killer at 25 yards this is an legacy from USA forever lighting smooth
Since I'm an old guy and I wanted a springer that was easy to caulk I bought a Hatsan alpha youth. I found that my crosman 760 is more accurate than the hatsan that has rifled barrel and all. Hatsan might get better after I shot more pellets through it. Cleaned both barrels, but didn't seem to make much difference.
Using Crossman guns, I used to get similar results, poor accuracy with BBs. I also found that if I used BBs, for just 2 or 3 shots, my accuracy with pellets would go down for the next 6 to 8 shots until the barrel leaded up again. Then it was back to as good as my eyes, and in those days, that was almost 5 shots touching at about 25 yards. Have you seen that?
Have you tried Gamo lead balls in your 880? I carry about 20 or so in my 901, just in case. They "seem" to be more accurate than steel BBs without the long-term potential for barrel damage or the ricochet issues of steel BBs
I know this isn't addressed in the video, but what about copper bbs instead of steel? The steel noticeably drop a lot, I wonder if the lighter copper ones would have more distance and MAYBE more accurate?
I've fired Crossman Copperheads out of my 880, and I can't say I noticed much of a difference between them and regular steel bbs. Technically they are both made out of steel, but one has a copper coating which supposedly is better for the rifling than bare steel. Most guns that take bbs and pellets tend to have shallower flatter rifling than pellet-only guns. The Daisy 880 is one such gun with this feature.
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This is going to sound funny, but I never owned a Daisy 880 or a Crosman pump BB gun. I have decided that I am going to by a Daisy 880 for my Birthday!
Nice! I shoot mine more than anything here lately.
Nice, can't go wrong with that choice vs the cost of some air rifles. Worth every penny!
You won't regret it!
You can't go wrong, the 880 is a great rifle! Cheap, but great anyway.
The 880 and the Pumpmaster are both pretty evenly matched in my opinion. You can't go wrong with either one.
I don't think I've ever been able to get a group that tight with BB's at 20 yards before, with ANY type of BB gun whatsoever! That was really good for that distance. And open sights even! Of course that tight group with the pellets and open sights was to be expected I guess, the 880 is great with pellets.
Hunting with our air rifle is the best choose
Because the 880 is actually a rifle, unlike most bb-guns.
I think pellets are gonna be more accurate. I've noticed bbs taking a sharp nosedive in mine around 25 yds...but that's just my opinion and my experience is limited on the 880 as I've not been shooting it lately. I guess I'll get to find out!!..
Same, at first I thought my 880 was broken, then I switched to pellets and realized it's jsut the BBs..
Great Job Travis! You confirmed what we already knew, brother. Surprised by the 20 y group. Rifled barrels and BB's is no Bueno! LOL
Rifled barrel and STEEL BBs is bad, you can run Copperhead (copper) BBs as the copper is less likely to wear the rifling since its softer. Steel BBs smooth out the rifling for sure.
Dang missed ya bud I was playing music. Hope you're doing good, catch ya next time. Good video. Yea steel BB's will bounce back at you in a hurry, a friend nearly took my eye out once. At distance you can see some curve & the faster you shoot them the more they can curve. Pellets way more accurate for sure & safer!
I got a video at the end this time. I'll try to watch em through from now on, get you that penny or two.
BB's are a waste of time anyway unless you're just knocking down cans or bottles up close.
You seemed a bit disappointed in the BB performance. I thought, for 20 yds., that was amazing. Of course, I expected the pellets to be significantly better and they were. Again, for 20 yds., really good from a lower powered, inexpensive rifle, with open sights, no less! Thanks for the demonstration.
I noticed the same thing without this video. I shoot from my back porch into the garden about 35-40 feet out.
I can't hit CRAP with BBs, but pellets always work great.
I'm glad I can see how much it's off side by side. They even drop much quicker. I have to aim high to make it to the garden with BBs.. and my yard is a downward slope lol.
Just got the 880 a few weeks back to give me something to do that isn't just drinking and watching youtube news shows. Videos about the pellet gun I own help keep me interested in what all I can do with it.
If only the MN police wouldn't shoot me if I brought it into the woods with my husky for actual squirrel hunting. Curse of living in the suburbs. I can bring it to a gun range, but paying money to be the dude at the range with a BB Gun when everyone else is using handguns, I'm not about to get laughed at lol...
If you haven’t already, check out the truglo 4x32 on sale at midway right now. I ran that scope for a while on here. Little blurry. But, the price is right and it comes with rings. They have a decent selection of pellets too. Check out my 880 playlist. It’s a fantastic air rifle.
Very good video thank you! I was going crazy figuring why my Ekol Thunder M .22 pellet springer groups shots in 1 inch while my Daisy Red Ryder 4.5 bb springer shoots groups in 1 hand sized area in same shooting conditions. It's the bbs!!!! 😂🙏🏻
I'd say from my experience with the Red Ryder and this video of yours, bbs are for shooting tin can sized plinking targets only.
For hunting only use pellets, since bbs are too small for lethal wounds in large game and too inaccurate for precission aiming in small game, shots will miss and animals would be wounded and in pain but likely escape since hitting a vital on a small game animal has more to do with luck than with aiming when using bbs.
BBs are only used in my Red Ryders. I don't ever use BBs over pellets if I can. For example my Umerex SA10 CO2 pistol has never had a BB fired out of it... only pellets. I learned as a kid, never shoot a BB over a pellet unless your gun only fires BBs.
for sure, if you're going to shoot BB's get a spring-plunger Daisy,
polish+lube its guts. FrogLube did little wonders for 3 of them here,
air cylinder and shot tube treated gave all 3 a 10% velocity increase.
FrogLube is intended for small firearms but air power sure likes it!
Enjoyed it buddy and I wish them kids a speedy recovery 🙏
I bought a pair of Daisy 35s for me and my wife to plink with. I've been amazed at how accurate they are with BBs. 3 pumps seems to be the magic number.
I agree…but I go to 4 pumps at 50 feet
Writing this before watching you shoot. BV's, from the shooting U"be done, are a waste of time. That includes my Daisy Buck and Red Ryder, my Daisy 880, my Corpsman new model 770, and my Crosman 2100. I have a Crosman CO2 BB pistol that isn't too bad. BB's throw uncalled flyers all over the place. From whatI know, the only BB rifles that have any accuracy are the Daisy Avanti 499 at about $150, and, some owners got decent accuracy from the, now discontinued I believe, Umarex Morph in rifle form. The Daisy is literally a single muzzle loader with a very tight barrel and low velocity, while the Morph could push BB"s out at over 500 fps. The Daisy is designed for 5 meter matches, and at that it excells. The Morph showed that people that say BB"s are most accurate at 300 fps and under (or fill in the blank), are simply wrong. Now, on to your video!
John neet, I have a morph 3x and you are correct about it totally. Mine was shooting in the 680fps on a hot summer day and It tore up the target at 28 yds...
yup, BB's can do OK shot fast. RR here has cobalt327 setup and treated with FrogLube runs 365-370, decent at 15 yards. Crosman 760 open sights with 6 pumps on a BB runs about 460 can group tighter than the RR does.
the 760 is an excellent budget BB gun, FrogLube the bore!
you're stuck with the open sights unless you firm up a 760 a lot, the pump tube and barrel ARE kinda wobbly in relation to the receiver dovetail for a scope you're not going to need at 10-15 yards anyway, stock barrel mounted sites are good. slit the front for a fiber optic dot is easy, paint the slit white, let dry, then glue in the glow plastic. rear site flat 2.5 x 4 mm to the backside half the notch depth in yellow = glowing underscore to center the front pink/red dot over, really quick easy sight picture to pick up. done same to the RR and Buck here too.
Pellets I think but I don't use bbs
I was really surprised at the BB group at 20 yards. It did better than I thought I don't think I would have shot the BBs past 10 yards. My favorite BB gun is my Daisy 25 pump action BB gun in my opinion that's the most fun you can have with a BB gun unless you get one of those CO2 full auto ones.
I use BBs in my old 880, and your video confirms my experience. But it is extra cheap fun to fire off 30-50 BBs now and then.
I don’t think it’s as bad on the rifling as everyone thinks. My legacy 1000 is about to become a BB gun permanently.
@@ohshoot444 You're right, and I don't care what anyone says, it will not hurt the rifling in an 880 to use BB's. I shot tens of thousands of them in my 880's back in the '80's and the rifling is still there and that barrel is still very accurate. 880's have that flat, shallow rifling that is designed to handle both BB's and pellets. But, having said all that, these days (just in case!), I never fire BB's out of my "good" 880's that I use for target shooting. Oh, and by the way, good luck getting a Crosman to shoot BB's straight! My Crosman 2100 shoots BB's terribly, they fly all over, like a 6" group at 10 yards, it's awful. Not sure why the 880 does so much better.
@@ohshoot444 Yes, when I ordered my new 880 (I live in a town and county in southern MN so small that there is not a Walmart within 45-50miles) I emailed Daisy with the question of whether or not BBs would harm the rifling in an 880. Daisy's response was "No."
I also read in one of the comments on another of your videos that zinc is a softer metal. Thus zinc coated BBs should not harm a rifled barrel. I suspect copper is also a "soft" metal. Thus Daisy's zinc coated BBs and Crosman's Copper Tops should not harm an 880's rifled barrel.
I can’t get that legacy to shoot anything lol. I’m about to take it completely apart and figure it out. I recrowned it and it didn’t help at all. Way too much barrel movement.
The gun I was shooting in this video had many many bbs and other things shot through it. I’m gonna reseal it soon I think.
after the first couple BBs I was impressed, then it went downhill. yeah, that's BBs for you.
Steel BB is not good, the Daisy 880 has very mild rifling, will end up destroying accuracy from airgun.
Best thing to do is buy two 880's, use one for BB's and one for pellets only. That is, if you want to shoot BB's in the first place.
I wish Daisy would consider making an upgraded version of the 880! Don't get me wrong I love my 880 but It seems kind of cheap feeling.
It would be nice If It had wood furniture and a more robust pumping arm! I would think Daisy would sell a ton of them even If the price was north of $200....The basic layout Is a winner, It just needs a little more of an upscale feel. Just a thought!
The 1977xs is that maybe. But I agree. A steel 880 with a nice stock id be right there with ya buying one.
Nice shooting!
For closer ranges bbs are ok for fun, but more than 20 feet or for pesting you need a good pellet. I like the Gamo Rockets
Great video
I grew up with a 880 I haven't watched the vid at this point and to clarify I never had a scope on my 880 but BB's were always best for me.. Lets see if it's still true..
Hunting with flat pellet super point or hollow point pellet my daisy is an areal hunter
When I am hunting with my daisy power line 880 any bird cant go away is dead with 7 pomps is killer at 25 yards this is an legacy from USA forever lighting smooth
Since I'm an old guy and I wanted a springer that was easy to caulk I bought a Hatsan alpha youth. I found that my crosman 760 is more accurate than the hatsan that has rifled barrel and all. Hatsan might get better after I shot more pellets through it. Cleaned both barrels, but didn't seem to make much difference.
I have a 760 and its amazing even with bbs.
The BBs did better than I expected. I bet at say 10 yds they might even be practical.
Using Crossman guns, I used to get similar results, poor accuracy with BBs. I also found that if I used BBs, for just 2 or 3 shots, my accuracy with pellets would go down for the next 6 to 8 shots until the barrel leaded up again. Then it was back to as good as my eyes, and in those days, that was almost 5 shots touching at about 25 yards. Have you seen that?
Ohh & more & bb too
Have you tried Gamo lead balls in your 880? I carry about 20 or so in my 901, just in case. They "seem" to be more accurate than steel BBs without the long-term potential for barrel damage or the ricochet issues of steel BBs
I haven’t. Seems interesting.
Have you done a standalone review on the 880?
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I know this isn't addressed in the video, but what about copper bbs instead of steel? The steel noticeably drop a lot, I wonder if the lighter copper ones would have more distance and MAYBE more accurate?
Stay tuned man! I’m collecting bbs to do a bb vs cheap pellet video (if I have time). Thanks for watching!
@@ohshoot444 I'll keep my eyes out for it! Any new info is good info in my book!
I've fired Crossman Copperheads out of my 880, and I can't say I noticed much of a difference between them and regular steel bbs. Technically they are both made out of steel, but one has a copper coating which supposedly is better for the rifling than bare steel. Most guns that take bbs and pellets tend to have shallower flatter rifling than pellet-only guns. The Daisy 880 is one such gun with this feature.
I LOVE HUNT ANIMALS & BIRDS WITH MY DAISY POWER LINE 880 & I pry its a daisy power line
Do you have a 901 also?
I sure dont. One day maybe.