This guy is right you can not bring a battery back to life by only reconditioning it. No one is telling the truth but this guy. So when the bus bars are corroded that is telling you the battery is bad and the acid is leaking out the battery. Its best to buy new modules unless you want to replace the battery every 2-3 years.
I do like your work and enjoy your videos but the electrolyte in these batteries is not an acid. It is corrosive but it's an alkali, the other end of the Ph scale to an acid. Potassium hydroxide to be specific. If the behaviour follows other battery types most of the dehydration is water converting to gasses and venting under pressure. A little electrolyte might leak and encourage corrosion or corrosion can be from humidity in the air.
The crystals you describe are probably dried out potassium hydroxide. Have you considered using a syringe of deionised water to rehydrate a dry cell with minimal mechanical disruption? Experiment on an open cell you can see until you can do it through a tiny melted hole you can reseal easily. Restore the electrolytic paste.
Thank you, professor Jose for this professional explanations. I solved the p080 simply disconnecting e reconnecting the 12v minus connector and the car computer restarted and the error codes disappered. My car is a Yaris xp130 of 2015. do you know why
You are awesome tysm for all the info. I feel like I learned so much on your channel. Had my 21 corolla going on 3 years just started having weird things going on with the battery and now the hybrid battery do you think the 12v battery going bad has anything to do with the hybrid battery not charging like it used to? My cars warranty is almost up and I don't want it to go out right after . Any suggestions ?
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics hey jose I followed the procedure to change my actuator fluid in my 2018 kia niro lots of gunk in there. I was successful but I removed my intake hosing and maf sensor connection for room to work refitted everything back now my check engine light is on will it come of on its own or can I rest it by turning the service plug off as I have no scanner
Great video.. I have few questions on the topic.. 1. How much fluid is in a NEW module? Is it Flooded to the top of the plates? 2. If someone were to test the fluid of the battery, what should it be. ie add acid or disstilled water?
Hello, I saw your videos and you explain everything great. I have 2012 toyota prius c. I have an idea to add 2 batteries. And there will be 22 instead of 20. Is it possible?
I really like this video, and I am using your balancing technique with Panasonic Prismatic modules connected in parallel to charge a bunch with a SkyRC battery charger (works great)! I have a 2008 Prius Gen 2, and need to replace the Hybrid battery pack. I have the impression that many of the Panasonic modules implemented in Toyota vehicles over the years are compatible with the 2008. Can I buy a HV battery pack for a 2015 vehicle and install the modules in my 2008 Prius? I would like to see a video where you share information on various Toyota models and if their hybrid batteries are compatible with other model years. The number of modules changes, however do the Panasonic modules change over time? Are they compatible over the years?
Gary, I thought the point of his balancing technique was to hang them from the aluminum rails. I thought that was a pretty good idea. How are you doing it with the SkyRc exactly?
So why can’t I do my measurements and have a plastic injection mold company make me some module frames find new dry cell batteries that will be the same Electrically and dimension wise install those in the frames and use those? This is a whole new business adventure
you prob could and make it twice as wide and use 18650 batteries to produce 15 or so volts at 6.5 amp hours or more if you like instead of two at 7.5 or so bc a module is 2 units the computer will still read it as one module only thing is you wiil need to install BMS battery monitor system for safety reasons
If the dealer suggests replacing a module should I insist that they replace the entire battery ? Am I just gonna have to keep replacing modules? What causes a hybrid battery to over heat how can I prevent over heating?
Question ⁉️ the internal resistance on those modules should be not more higher than what? I bought a true 4 wire IR tester and honestly idc how to identify or know a chart about this.. please 🙏 can you guide me.. thanks
How do the individual cells balance? Is it the transfer of the electrolyte, internal circuitry, or does an individual cell not care that it is overcharged (dissipates the excess energy as heat)? The reason I ask is batteries naturally get out balance because they degrade at different rates it’s nearly impossible to make each individual cell the same and have the exact same life experiences as the other cells. Lead acid deals with it by more electrolysis.
Hi bro I don't know if you can help me, I am living in Guyana, and I have a Toyota Corolla fielder hybrid and it's gon bad and I want to replace it,boot now where in our country replace or fix it.
Ich battery has about 40mili liter liquid electrolyte, and if it went out time after time it is losing volume and overheating and damaging. Keep 22 degrees inside car by a/c its saves battery in good condition, also cleat air intake gasket from dast by vacoom qleaner periodically. In my country i clean filter once in 6 month in Georgia and vindows always ar closed in my car so there is less dust.
Question: once a capacity is lost and internal resistance is increased, how can one bring such a module to a resonable life to be used for few more years? Is it even possible? Thanks again.
Then how to maintain his life span if Acus are filled with electrolyte, and as a fluids, they can dry out after time. And if design of cells are similar to 12v car battery, do they should also be refilled? Or they are constructed to be used only once.
NiMH as you know expands, and thats why theyre sandwiched and wrenched together so when they do try to expand, they cant. Thats why toyota went with this block design, to prevent expansion when installed in the battery pack and provide maximum heatsink between the layers with their dotty outershell.
@@saadarain1578 I dont know how Tesla's are placed, i thought those are lithium with iron in them to prevent exploding. But I do know NiMH expands with heat and have to be wedged between something to prevent expansion
EI JOSE , CAMARADA, WHY YOU DO NOT PUT THIS TWO CELLS INTO YOUR BALANCE MACHINE TO BALANCE THEM LIKE YOU EXPLAIN IN PREVIOUS VIDEO? THIS BATTERY CELLS ARE MUCHO DINEROS!??? OOO AND WHAT IF THE OTHER CELLS YOU BALLANCING INSIDE HAS SOME DRY SECTION? AND YOU BALANCING THEM AND THEY ARE WORKING? I DONT BUY THIS HOSE OR JOSE SAME TO ME. JUST NOT THUMBS UP FROM ME.
Hi dear jose, i follow your videos regularly and where i live nobody has rebalancing equipment, i got inspired by your balancing DIY board and made one myself, for some further assistance can i contact you via email or whatsapp please?
That was a great explanation and demonstration. The visuals really help understand what's going on inside the cells.
Thank you ☝😎
Thank you for showed us what is inside the cell, and explained what is the main problem with the bad cells
Seen few of your videos. Loved al of them. The best explanation I have come across about batteries. Physics 101. Please keep educating.
👍👍
Excellent presentation! Thank you!✌️
Actually electrolyte used is an alkaline of potassium and sodium hydroxide. Great videos!
Yes, corrected in the description... thank you
I like your curiosity, it results in very rare information
This guy is right you can not bring a battery back to life by only reconditioning it. No one is telling the truth but this guy. So when the bus bars are corroded that is telling you the battery is bad and the acid is leaking out the battery. Its best to buy new modules unless you want to replace the battery every 2-3 years.
Very interesting. Thanks for doing this.
I learn something new today. Thank you
Really good stuff, I am loving your videos. The balancer video was kick ass too.
Excelente! Gracias por compartir ✌️😎
Gracias a ti por seguirnos hermano... saludos
I do like your work and enjoy your videos but the electrolyte in these batteries is not an acid. It is corrosive but it's an alkali, the other end of the Ph scale to an acid. Potassium hydroxide to be specific.
If the behaviour follows other battery types most of the dehydration is water converting to gasses and venting under pressure.
A little electrolyte might leak and encourage corrosion or corrosion can be from humidity in the air.
Galvanic or electrolytic corrosion is also probable given that the cathode is more effected than the anode.
Yes you right... i made the correction in the description 👋😎
The crystals you describe are probably dried out potassium hydroxide.
Have you considered using a syringe of deionised water to rehydrate a dry cell with minimal mechanical disruption?
Experiment on an open cell you can see until you can do it through a tiny melted hole you can reseal easily. Restore the electrolytic paste.
Thank you, professor Jose for this professional explanations. I solved the p080 simply disconnecting e reconnecting the 12v minus connector and the car computer restarted and the error codes disappered. My car is a Yaris xp130 of 2015. do you know why
This video is Merv approved!
Thanks so much ✅✅👨🔧👨🔧
Very useful information... Thanks bro
Thank you very much, God bless you.
Thank you for your support osama 😎👍✅✅✅
Do you think ..or.. has anyone ever tried rehydrating cells? Wondering if it could be done thru the gas relief ports. Doubt it, but just a thought
Technically possible for sure. You can fix lead acid in a similar manner, maybe also with some desuplhation.
But in a do or die scenario, absolutely.
Thanks a lot for your explanation!
Amazing very Impressed
this is amazing, thank you so much
Make some videos on Li-ion battery specially Prius alpha 7 seater.
I will ☝😎
He is like a wise eastern auto philosopher.
You are awesome tysm for all the info. I feel like I learned so much on your channel. Had my 21 corolla going on 3 years just started having weird things going on with the battery and now the hybrid battery do you think the 12v battery going bad has anything to do with the hybrid battery not charging like it used to? My cars warranty is almost up and I don't want it to go out right after . Any suggestions ?
Great. Thanks you.
Hey bro .. very educational stuff 👍🏻 keep up the good work . If you don’t mind answering. Where are you located? Im from Trinidad 🇹🇹
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Great video, thanks.
Thank you james 👊😎
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics hey jose I followed the procedure to change my actuator fluid in my 2018 kia niro lots of gunk in there. I was successful but I removed my intake hosing and maf sensor connection for room to work refitted everything back now my check engine light is on will it come of on its own or can I rest it by turning the service plug off as I have no scanner
@@32412kg scan it... you probably left something unplugged...
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics thanks the connection to the maf was not snug where u hear the click all fixed I am enjoying your training all the best.
i finally understand internal resistance
Thank you my friend
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Great video.. I have few questions on the topic.. 1. How much fluid is in a NEW module?
Is it Flooded to the top of the plates? 2. If someone were to test the fluid of the battery, what should it be. ie add acid or disstilled water?
He will not respond ;(
Yea man you're the boss thank you very much.
Thank you for your support 👋😎
Do you have any possibility to insert Acids without breaking ?
What is the purpose of the connectors at the top? Are they some sort of vent? I saw another video where tubes were attached to them.
Good video
Hi is this NiMH battery..? good video bro..
Yes it is NiMh... 👋😎
You are is perfect Can you any idea can use a liquis add potassium hydrixide electroolyte to hybrid cellto refill this better cell is walking
Hello, I saw your videos and you explain everything great.
I have 2012 toyota prius c. I have an idea to add 2 batteries. And there will be 22 instead of 20. Is it possible?
Jejeje yes it can be done... however it is not needed, since the prius c is a hybrid and not an ev... ☝️😅😅 it won't make such a difference
Very good brother
I really like this video, and I am using your balancing technique with Panasonic Prismatic modules connected in parallel to charge a bunch with a SkyRC battery charger (works great)! I have a 2008 Prius Gen 2, and need to replace the Hybrid battery pack. I have the impression that many of the Panasonic modules implemented in Toyota vehicles over the years are compatible with the 2008. Can I buy a HV battery pack for a 2015 vehicle and install the modules in my 2008 Prius? I would like to see a video where you share information on various Toyota models and if their hybrid batteries are compatible with other model years. The number of modules changes, however do the Panasonic modules change over time? Are they compatible over the years?
Yes they are the very same modules ☝️😎☝️😎
Gary, I thought the point of his balancing technique was to hang them from the aluminum rails. I thought that was a pretty good idea. How are you doing it with the SkyRc exactly?
So why can’t I do my measurements and have a plastic injection mold company make me some module frames find new dry cell batteries that will be the same Electrically and dimension wise install those in the frames and use those? This is a whole new business adventure
you prob could and make it twice as wide and use 18650 batteries to produce 15 or so volts at 6.5 amp hours or more if you like instead of two at 7.5 or so
bc a module is 2 units the computer will still read it as one module only thing is you wiil need to install BMS battery monitor system for safety reasons
@@apolloFm correct
where can I buy the Lithium-ion batteries to replace the NiMh batteries?
If the dealer suggests replacing a module should I insist that they replace the entire battery ? Am I just gonna have to keep replacing modules? What causes a hybrid battery to over heat how can I prevent over heating?
Question ⁉️ the internal resistance on those modules should be not more higher than what? I bought a true 4 wire IR tester and honestly idc how to identify or know a chart about this.. please 🙏 can you guide me.. thanks
How do the individual cells balance? Is it the transfer of the electrolyte, internal circuitry, or does an individual cell not care that it is overcharged (dissipates the excess energy as heat)? The reason I ask is batteries naturally get out balance because they degrade at different rates it’s nearly impossible to make each individual cell the same and have the exact same life experiences as the other cells. Lead acid deals with it by more electrolysis.
I would like to study up and take some training in hybrid vehicles for my shop. What do you suggest
Send a DM to our instagram page... we have an amazing onlie training for technicians... fully live training 👋😎👋😎
thank you
Is that refillable with KOH ?
Hi bro I don't know if you can help me, I am living in Guyana, and I have a Toyota Corolla fielder hybrid and it's gon bad and I want to replace it,boot now where in our country replace or fix it.
Find a certified hybrid technician my friend...
Where can we buy brand new cells?
Ich battery has about 40mili liter liquid electrolyte, and if it went out time after time it is losing volume and overheating and damaging. Keep 22 degrees inside car by a/c its saves battery in good condition, also cleat air intake gasket from dast by vacoom qleaner periodically. In my country i clean filter once in 6 month in Georgia and vindows always ar closed in my car so there is less dust.
Have you ever attempted to refill the nickel metal electrolyte?
Yes but not worth… too risky… they accumulate heating pressure
There is no acid in NiMh batteries, it's potassium hydroxide completely opposite of acid.
Question: once a capacity is lost and internal resistance is increased, how can one bring such a module to a resonable life to be used for few more years? Is it even possible?
Thanks again.
You can’t
how to refill electrolyte? I have toyota Auris.
DO NOT ☝️😪 ⛔️🚫⛔️🚫⛔️🚫
Then how to maintain his life span if Acus are filled with electrolyte, and as a fluids, they can dry out after time. And if design of cells are similar to 12v car battery, do they should also be refilled? Or they are constructed to be used only once.
Why we don’t build battery pack with 18650 Nimh cells? Which easily available in market
NiMH as you know expands, and thats why theyre sandwiched and wrenched together so when they do try to expand, they cant. Thats why toyota went with this block design, to prevent expansion when installed in the battery pack and provide maximum heatsink between the layers with their dotty outershell.
@@1mostwanted253 what about if cells placed vertically like the Tesla do?
@@saadarain1578 I dont know how Tesla's are placed, i thought those are lithium with iron in them to prevent exploding. But I do know NiMH expands with heat and have to be wedged between something to prevent expansion
Put some baking soda on liquid. If it fizzles it's acid otherwise it's not.
My 2013 prius has 220000 miles shall i order alibaba 28 cells
Or the lithium still better
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics what do you mean
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics do u think if I open and move out middle cells and change the cell connectors is helpful prolong it's life
This is quite a confusing video because these batteries don't have acid inside. These batteries have alkaline electrolytes. What a professional... :)
Yes… my bad… it is corrected in the description
Can repaire hybrid car battery ?
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Where buy good cells
NO, it's not battery acid. It's an alkaline.
He is 'DEAD' accurate on old, bad modules.
I've cut em apart as well as attempted to rehydrate them...which is waste of time
I need yall location
EI JOSE , CAMARADA, WHY YOU DO NOT PUT THIS TWO CELLS INTO YOUR BALANCE MACHINE TO BALANCE THEM LIKE YOU EXPLAIN IN PREVIOUS VIDEO? THIS BATTERY CELLS ARE MUCHO DINEROS!??? OOO AND WHAT IF THE OTHER CELLS YOU BALLANCING INSIDE HAS SOME DRY SECTION? AND YOU BALANCING THEM AND THEY ARE WORKING? I DONT BUY THIS HOSE OR JOSE SAME TO ME. JUST NOT THUMBS UP FROM ME.
Those beer cases don't reflect to well for your videos, it can send the wrong signal
Hi dear jose, i follow your videos regularly and where i live nobody has rebalancing equipment, i got inspired by your balancing DIY board and made one myself, for some further assistance can i contact you via email or whatsapp please?