Hybrid Battery Pack Refurbish - Step-By-Step w/ Settings - 2nd & 3rd Gen Toyota Prius - CQ3 Charger

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  • I show all hardware, settings, and steps to refurbish a bank of batteries from a pack that is found in 2nd and 3rd generation Toyota Prius.
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  • @IanMacMillan-l7s
    @IanMacMillan-l7s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Original hybrid battery on my 2006 failed at 150,100 miles. Bought a replacment from the dealer. It failed at 65,000. Followed Gregg's method. It took two weeks to refurbish but did not replace any modules. Found out in the process the dealer sold me a refurbished battery. It has now been 6 months and it is running like new, back to 52 mpg on the highway. Thanks Gregg.

  • @JohnCalebWarren
    @JohnCalebWarren 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I did this same job about 6 years ago & only had to replace 7 cells. I barely knew what I was doing but it made it 6 years before it failed again. Great video!

    • @shaz2878
      @shaz2878 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @JohnCalebWarren some garages say that the cell counts starts from the orange connector that unplugs to render the battery pack safe ti work on. Can you confirm that cell # 1 starts from that side? It's typically the opposite side of the fan.... Thanks

  • @GaryMarkowski
    @GaryMarkowski ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I like this video! So thank you for that! However, I see a train wreck happening if people “set it and forget it”. Here are some tips to avoid problems.
    Lets say you set the NIMH settings to charge @ 3.0 amps, discharge @ 1.0 amps, discharge cutoff 6.0 volts, CAPA 7500 mAh, wait time 5 minutes, 3 cycles, safety timer 720 minutes (12 hours) (which is what Gregg suggests). The charger will discharge a module @ 1.0 amps down to 6.0 volts. It will wait 5 minutes, and then charge @ 3.0 amps until it has charged 7500 mAh or Deta V is triggered (aka “delta peak charging”), which occurs when the module is fully charged. Many chargers (such as the SkyRC charger) do not detect Delta V, but it appears this quad charger does detect Delta V. But some modules are old, and they will no longer trigger Delta V, so you will rely on CAPA of 7500 mAh to save you (or max charge time of 12 hours)? The problem here is that many older modules will be at their max potential voltage of 8.60 volts after applying just 4000 mAh.
    A new hybrid pack will run over $2,000 and a rebuilt pack will run $750. An old module on Ebay runs $30. Here are some things you can do to avoid needlessly damaging your modules:
    1) Set CAPA to 3300 mAh (for older modules), 4300 mAh (for good modules), 5300 mAh (for great modules). Watch max voltage reached and adjust.
    2) Set charge to 3.0 amps. After two cycles, you can set charge to 3.2 amps.
    3) Buy a SkyRC temperature probe ($10). Set max temperature to 83 F (for a single module), or set to 110 F (if left in the pack).
    4) Set wait time between charge and discharge to 60 minutes (to allow module to cool).
    5) Set discharge to 1.0 or 2.0 amps down to 6.50 volts. 6.0 volts is too low.
    6) To refresh a module, you can discharge @ 0.1 amps from 6.5 volts down to 6.0 volts (once or twice). Following discharge, allow 20 minutes for voltage to drift back up to 7.20 volts. If the voltage does not rise on its own, apply a trickle charge of 0.1 amps up to 7.20 volts. Once a module is at 7.20 volts, you can apply a charge of 3.0 or 3.2 amps up to 8.60 volts.
    7) When charging a module, the voltage may show 8.72 volts (or so). After stopping the charge process, the actual module voltage may be 8.55 volts or less (the max voltage for Prius modules is 8.60 volts). Delta V may be triggered around 8.72 volts. This quad charger appears to detect Delta V, but this is not guaranteed. Some modules are worn out, and will no longer trigger Delta V. If you have overcharged your modules, they may no longer trigger Delta V. If a module no longer triggers Delta V, this could be dangerous because the car’s BMS (battery management system) will not know when that module has reached it’s max charge.
    8) When pairing modules for a pack rebuild, pair them based on similar resistance and mAh capacity. Do NOT pair weak modules with strong modules as an attempt to fool the BMS. It is better and safer to pair modules with similar capabilities. Pairing modules with similar characteristics will reduce the number of failures of a hybrid battery pack. If you have a super strong module, and you don’t have a good match, it may be best to leave that module out of the pack.

    • @jayviz
      @jayviz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Excellent tips. Can you tell me how to best position the SkyRC temp probe to monitor external temperature? Just set it on top?

    • @CorwinKlein
      @CorwinKlein 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Great clarification, Thank you! What do you mean in step 1) watch max volts reached and adjust?

    • @MervsServiceSecrets
      @MervsServiceSecrets 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gary, in your opinion, what is the minimum amount of mAh required per module in order to have a good, working battery pack? I have noticed with some of older modules, I am luck to achieve 3000mAh discharge, even after 5 cycles. Curious to know at what point does one just give up and classify a module as junk.

    • @jayviz
      @jayviz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I kinda wonder what we are supposed to be shooting for. 4000 at 7.2 volts? 6500 at 8.5? or I guess more importantly, what should we be discharging in a real world scenario because there is no way in hell I can get 5000 like u r getting Mr. Festo

    • @abrindeyev
      @abrindeyev 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MervsServiceSecrets Someone who reconditions the batteries told me that 4500 mAh is the discharge cutoff for a single module.

  • @kb7pts
    @kb7pts หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for taking the time to throughly describe the process. Loads of misinformation out there only checking battery voltage and then wonder why all that work didn’t seem to work. You do a great job breaking each and every step down. Thanks again.

  • @peglegtoo
    @peglegtoo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Gregg, I want to thank you for both of your excellent prius battery videos, Your help was invaluable in taking on my battery rebuild project, setting up the charger, balancing, assembly and disassembly of the pack.
    A couple of things that might help others. I had to coax a number of modules thru 5-7 cycles to get them to 5000 mah, In the end I did not trust those cells or thought they would be the problems of the future so I opted to only use modules that got to 5000 mah in 3 cycles. also, I choose to lower the charge rate to 2.5 or even 2 amps on modules that tended to swell excessively, though It really extended the overall charge/cycle time.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for watching and writing in with the feedback.

  • @jstew1955
    @jstew1955 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Another excellent video from Gregg. I watched your first video and followed your steps exactly and my results were excellent. As was shown in your video, use decent cables rather than the cheapies found online. I did notice that some of my modules required 5 cycles of discharge/charge while others required only 3. The torque values on the bus bar nuts are 48 in-lbs when reassembling the battery pack. Thanks again Gregg for sharing your valuable knowledge.

    • @yuriorlov47
      @yuriorlov47 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whats your battery performance after reconditioning?

  • @Luisjun91
    @Luisjun91 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ⁠​​⁠Hi Greg Festo I just wanted to pass and say THANK YOU SO MUCH. You have been an amazing help on the process of refurbishing my battery and your quick response to every question I had in the process.
    I had 0% of understand the hybrid battery and even so I have plenty of family members that are mechanics nobody knew how to help either.
    I will recommend this video as much as I can to every Hybrid owner I know to help your channel grow and if there’s any other way I could help please reach out.
    Again thank you from the bottom of my heart sir you’re amazing in explaining and answering my tedious question. Wish you the best of luck in everything God bless 🙏🏽🙏🏽
    And for anybody doubting they can do it stop thinking that way. You can best of luck and ask my friend over here he is the best.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for watching. I appreciate you writing such a nice response for the videos. God bless you too.

  • @ralfmatters448
    @ralfmatters448 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent demonstration. I took your advice and bought 2 chargers and have discovered that I need 10 'new' blades, I am just testing them now, and some are not getting to 5 amp hours capacity. The ebay vendor claimed that they were all above 5 amp hours, so I am still cycling them but no joy yet....

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching. I have had some batteries come in that took a few cycles to get back to good numbers. This may be from the batteries sitting on a shelf for a while before they are sold to us and shipped out? Not sure. Please write back and let us know how your pack turns out.

    • @ralfmatters448
      @ralfmatters448 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GreggFestoI think you are right, some have taken 7 cycles but they are all getting above 5 amp hours

    • @NyaraiTuge
      @NyaraiTuge 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where can l buy the chargers & howmuch ? Thanks

    • @KasraOskuie
      @KasraOskuie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NyaraiTuge Just google the make and model. I purchased mine on Amazon.

  • @DavidPauwelynTravelingbyfoot
    @DavidPauwelynTravelingbyfoot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for this. Very detailed and clear explanations. You included many good tips that I haven’t seen anywhere else. I feel I can proceed with confidence. My 2007 Prius has less than 120,000 miles on it and I feel it has a lot of life left in it.

  • @SkyGizmmo
    @SkyGizmmo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now that was thorough how to! Love the welding wire rigging. Gives a chance to cycle /salvage /refurb cells that make your cut in numbers provided. Really great content using solid available affordable technology. Thank you

  • @semberts
    @semberts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just wanted to say 'Thank you' for your very helpful video. I was able to get my 2008 Prius back on the road. I appreciate it.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching and providing feedback. Glad I was able to help you.

  • @nealdesomber5000
    @nealdesomber5000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you sir! Extremely informative and to the point! I recently purchased a 2008 Prius with a bad battery, currently following your process (with 2 cheaper chargers) and am saving thousands reconditioning the battery myself. You're a hero!

    • @Rooster-ri2cc
      @Rooster-ri2cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great video.

    • @PamfiloRodas
      @PamfiloRodas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where you buy the charger?

  • @davemueller7017
    @davemueller7017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the charsoon antimatter. Basically the same in operation and function.
    When i started in 2018 it seems there was a lot less info.
    Thankful for the recap on numbers for set up and what we want.
    I can only charge at 7.2 or 8.4, it goes past 9v and upwards of 10v on 8.4. I dont like that, but unsure if its too much on the module

  • @noblink4619
    @noblink4619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gold info, thank you for sharing it, I bought the charger that you have and now I’m chargind and discharged my battery out of a yaris hybrid 👍🏻

  • @donquixote9813
    @donquixote9813 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After several attempts and confusion of understanding your settings i engaged AI for more specifics on acceptable limits and procedure:
    Yes, that’s correct! Following this procedure will give you a good indication of each module's health:
    1. Charge to 6.5 Ah: Charge each module up to a capacity of 6.5 Ah, ensuring that the voltage does not exceed 8.6 volts during the charging process.
    2. Discharge to 6 Volts: Discharge each module down to 6 volts to measure its true discharge capacity.
    3. Acceptable Capacity: If you get a discharge capacity of 5 Ah or greater, it is generally acceptable. This capacity suggests the module is still functional and able to hold a reasonable charge, though ideally, you would want as close to 6.5 Ah as possible.
    This approach will help you identify weaker modules that may need monitoring or replacement, ensuring better balance and longevity for the overall battery pack.

    • @sashaviroviy5065
      @sashaviroviy5065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Voltage will never reach more than 8.6 with that setting of 6500. The more setting you do the more voltage and more discharge value on the next cycle

  • @1981zamora
    @1981zamora 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi! Everyone. Im from LA. I have a camry 2007 and the HB is 12% state of charge. Im learning from Greg how to do this
    process. Im using same charger same set up couple of days ago. This is a lot of fun! Thanks Greg. Great educational videos

  • @timothycreamer8610
    @timothycreamer8610 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the best videos I've watched on this subject thanks.

  • @michaelgene1139
    @michaelgene1139 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of the best videos I have ever watched ,you're a boss thanks for sharing

  • @tursu27
    @tursu27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Don't even own a Prius but enjoyed watching the video.

  • @1981zamora
    @1981zamora 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm having lost of fun working on my 2007 toyota HV. I'm half way through and I have saved 4 modules so far after 10 or more cycles for each. If I can saved at least half of the HB I'll be so happy

  • @duncancsu
    @duncancsu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Greg job on the video. Very clear on the steps to complete the job.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching and leaving a great comment.

  • @1981zamora
    @1981zamora 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I couldn't have done it without Mr. Gregg's help.

  • @squidben5780
    @squidben5780 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still waiting of cables and battery will follow to start refurbishing some batteries. I wanted to make a power bank out of a whole pack and connect it to a 3000 watt inverter to be used in black out. After asking around nobody could answer me. So went on Ai from Edge. If I run at 90% load so 2700 watt with fridge computer some stuff and let's say air conditioning, the final answer verified at 2 AI chats is 31 minutes so first that will kill the bank very quickly, and this makes this part of the project non feasible. Just wanted to let you know in case somebody ever wondered lol. Very dispointed, saved me couple of hours putting it together lol live and learn.

    • @timharding-yj8hc
      @timharding-yj8hc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      are U saying it doesn't work for your back-up

  • @Wierdwires
    @Wierdwires 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video, the best one is come across for this topic.

  • @57chevyconv
    @57chevyconv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey greg i have 13 plug-in with 280,000 miles im in NJ averaging 50 mi to the gallon in the winter and somewhere between 60 and 80 in the summer when i first bought the car i got as Hi as 118mpg now I can't plug in as much so im down on mpg in the spring i might pull the pack and as i have RC chargers like what u use great videos 😊

  • @squidben5780
    @squidben5780 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Already looked at your other videos, this ones completes information, thanks

  • @justincoleman7856
    @justincoleman7856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey there Gregg, so after watching your video I decided to go after the charger as well. While I am happy that your battery pack was in much better shape, unfortunately I can't say the same for mine. On avg all my modules end up below 1000 mah. I did find a guy who sells batteries with a range of 3500-4500 mah & so far one of his has passed the test. However, because of how many modules the pack has in general, I'm gonna have to make multiple orders to ensure that I can take care of bills at the same time. Just for reference, I do have an 09 Prius with 254k miles. So I did learn the hard way to give the battery pack at minimum 10 years before taking care of it each time in the future.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for watching. How many cycles did you give your batteries before deciding they were not recoverable? I have had to run some 15-20 times before getting to the 5000mah value. I recently purchased some very good replacements from seller aloyhybrid on ebay for around $33 each. Each one was over 5500mah discharge. Sorry to hear you are having issues and hope you get your Prius back on the road soon.

    • @justincoleman7856
      @justincoleman7856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So I've only run each battery once with the exception of the one that I purchased through eBay. There's only one from the original pack that seems to show some promise, so I'll give it another go. However I just don't have time to go wasting my electricity bill on cycling cells that just aren't showing any immediate promise. The downside of my situation is that I don't really have a nearby place where I can safely dispose of the bad batteries, especially since I've read that these nimh batteries aren't exactly healthy for the environment.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You should for sure run at least 3 cycles on each battery. Many times the first cycle will show low values or even CAPA with low discharge value.

    • @GaryMarkowski
      @GaryMarkowski ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You may wish to buy a used pack from a junk yard for $750 ($26 per module), or even $450 ($16 per module). I wish I did this instead of buying modules off of Ebay for $330.

  • @sueellenmcgoey6095
    @sueellenmcgoey6095 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know if I will have the guts to try this,but this is a fascinating video!
    Well done!

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is good to go outside of your comfort zone sometimes. It usually results in realizing that you actually can do it.

    • @1981zamora
      @1981zamora 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Go for it bro. Just watch and read on how disconnected the HB before you do anything

    • @1981zamora
      @1981zamora 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sueellenmcgoey6095 all you need to know Mr. Gregg has it. Remembered some modules should be cycle 10 t 20 times. So, be patient. I'd highly recommend that you get at least 4 chargers. Get the red ones. If possible!

  • @saulgoodman9657
    @saulgoodman9657 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for a such a detailed video!
    Maybe you or anyone else know what parameters should be used for Lexus RX450 hybrid cell?
    I bought the same charger, but the cell is different . It has 8 elements and nominal voltage around 10V from what I see.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. I have not done this refurbish on the batteries like you have so I am not sure of the settings.

  • @DarylOhnan
    @DarylOhnan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good Job Gregg,
    Very thorough, that's rare.
    I have a Prius, watched your video, bought both cahrgers.
    programmed them as instructed, 3 cycles, discharge/charge, ran into something that you didn't mention.
    About 2 hours into my time from start. all but 2 modules read FULL. I pressed the mode button as you stated if End was displayed, the screen didn't indicate and cycle information, discharge/charge... nothing, just battery type selection screen like from the beginning.
    all of the 8 modules read Full but 2. Number 4 and number 28, they were still running the cycles.
    Not sure what to do now. Start again? Not sure what full means pertaining to a discharged and charged module just a couple of hours into the process.
    When I pulled the battery and tested each module, all tested at just over 8V but 2 at 7V. Figured that they may be the culprit
    Thanks, Have a Great Evening

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching. You are correct, FULL is the same as END. Not sure why you would not see results when pressing the same button I did. On both of my chargers it is the far left button even though they are labeled differently. You can see this at 8:55 in the video. I suggest try a different button on the next finished battery and see if you can get results. If you find that it is a different one, please let us know as someone else will have this issue too. The voltage reading is not going to tell you much about the health, remember it is the capacity that counts.

    • @chrisrathier2377
      @chrisrathier2377 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also have this issue

  • @ubergama30
    @ubergama30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the DIY right to repair help - lets keep things working

  • @sejinoh1886
    @sejinoh1886 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic video Gregg! I learned so much from this and I thoroughly enjoyed learning your step-by-step process. I can't wait to start my 2006 Prius hybrid battery project soon!!

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching and leaving a great comment.

  • @josesifuentes7729
    @josesifuentes7729 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love seeing people diving into these subjects. Thank you!
    I just got my hands on a 22 Venza from Hertz rental with 48k on the odometer and this gives me hope. I’m trying to find out how long my Lithium cells will last. Thinking if it would be a good idea to get a battery replacement to have while the inventory is available even though it’s still only 50k on the meter. Does this make sense to get something this early?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. The more you drive the better battery will perform. Sitting for long periods is not good for them. For this reason I would not get a replacement pack and have it sitting around on a shelf - You may find out that it has gone bad on the shelf and you never got to use it.

  • @furkat1962
    @furkat1962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the hands on instructional video. Would you use same voltage/amperage parameters for refurbishing 1st generation Honda Insight (2000-2006) and 1st gen Honda Civic Hybrid (long pipe 1.5v x 6 = 9v D type stacked) batteries? If not, which values (charge, discharge, volts, amps) would you recommend, or the same parameters used for Prius Gen 2 and 3 can be applied to 1st Gen Honda hybrid batteries? Thanks.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. I am not familiar with the Honda batteries enough to provide setting details. I suggest visiting a Honda forum and getting that info from someone with more experience than myself.

    • @furkat1962
      @furkat1962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@GreggFesto just fyi findings: Forum and TH-cam users apply various similar setups, usually setting upper amperage capacity limit (charge) to 6500mV, that is the stock battery specs, but the later aftermarket batteries that came with 8Amp capacity (Bumblebee, Greentec, etc) seems to be handling your 7500mV charge capacity limit pretty well.

  • @adtvchannel3
    @adtvchannel3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    waw , from the bottom of my heart thank you so much for making this video and making it so easy to understand and step by step, thank you thank you

  • @johnloflin8881
    @johnloflin8881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Greg, great channel. I have configured settings from video, but for some reason it stops after first cycle. I set it to 3 cycles, and when the cell starts blinking “Capp” , I can use arrow button and cycle 2, shows zeros, and it will scroll 1,2,3,4,5, ..all zero’s except #1.
    I’m still a beginner..
    Thanks
    John

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hey John, Thanks for watching. Sounds like you are having good results. The charger stopped doing cycles because it met the 7500mah CAPA on first Charge cycle. Pay attention to the Discharge mah value and start cycles again. The Discharge mah value should rise each time. When you get to 5000mah Discharge this is a keeper, if you have 7500mah CAPA Charge at the same time then this is even better.

  • @aaaaaaa7487
    @aaaaaaa7487 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the detailed video! Great information that’ll help me refurbish my battery.

  • @StewBowen-f4e
    @StewBowen-f4e หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    any ideas what difference between end and full on the cq3?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. "END" and "FUL" mean the same thing on the CQ3 charger.

  • @renarock89
    @renarock89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for an awesome video.
    Do you put a fan near the pack? Or is it okay without any kind of ventilation.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. I have not had any issues with heat and have not used a fan so far.

  • @Repeatlessness
    @Repeatlessness ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Greg, I'm working on a 2001 Gen 1 pack. The Modules are rated at 6500 mah. So, two questions, my Capacity cutoff should be set to 6500 mah?... and Second... should I be looking to reach 4000 mah on my discharge reading. Thanks

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching. I am not sure of the difference between Gen1 and Gen2 batteries. I suggest checking PriusChat forums. Gen2 batteries are also rated at 6500mah, the reason the charger is set to CAPA at 7500mah has to do with the way it reads voltage while the battery charges, you can learn more on this by researching "delta peak charging". I see you have more batteries than a Gen2 to refurbish. Hope you will write back and let us know how your pack turns out.

  • @biggiecheese8787
    @biggiecheese8787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video, very helpful. i have a 2009 gs450h do you happen to know if these batteries have the same capacity and should i use the same charge and discharge amps when testing these⁉️

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for watching. Your batteries are the same as these and can use the same settings. You will have 40 of them instead of 28.

    • @mgarciav8140
      @mgarciav8140 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gold, currently doing a 2007 GS450h. I'll post on www.youtube.com/@HouseOnRoosevelt

  • @Moffat001
    @Moffat001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for an excellent video. I have a 1st Gen 7.2Volt x 34 module pack from a 2007 Camry ready to recondition when Santa delivers my BGUAD CQ3 4x100W. Would you recommend the same C and DC settings stated in your video?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. I have not done a Camry pack yet but if they use the same battery modules then this will work.

  • @jayviz
    @jayviz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the excellent video. I wish you could post a link to the exact make & model of the charger you talk about so I know I am buying the right one. I currently have a SkyRC but I am stupified over how the menu settings work. It all seems so confusing.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for watching. The charger I use is the CQ3 from EV-PEAK Corporation. They are available and many hobby shops and Amazon. There are 2 different colors (silver and red) that both work the same.

  • @AhmetKalpak-t8z
    @AhmetKalpak-t8z 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what guage (AWG) the cables has to be on those banana to alligator cables?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The thicker the better. I would aim for 22awg or larger.

    • @AhmetKalpak-t8z
      @AhmetKalpak-t8z 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GreggFesto 14awg?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That would be awesome

  • @tabteehee3467
    @tabteehee3467 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Greg nice tutorial! I do have a question…do you feel the discharge capacity testing negates the need for a voltage drop test with light bulb, load tester or load resistor?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. The charger takes place of light bulb test. The charger will provide more accurate results for discharge, will not discharge the battery too far, and should restore capacity of most batteries.

  • @syedshah4807
    @syedshah4807 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank so much for sort of tutorial of refurbishing a battery, car we run a fan to cooling the battery during the charging process?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. No fan is required when charging.

  • @kevinvollet6396
    @kevinvollet6396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gregg, after you recondition the cells (cycling between discharge and charge) how much time do you let the pack rest, before unbolting the pack? I'm a little worried about the cells expanding if I unbolt the pack too early. Thanks for your help! Kevin

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for watching. I forgot to mention that in the video. I feel the batteries with my hand, if do not feel any hot spots then I take apart, flip the batteries and balance. Please let me know how your pack does after you reinstall in car.

  • @MatthewGoodwin-ux9lb
    @MatthewGoodwin-ux9lb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi I have followed your steps with the same charger. All batteries I have tried which is 6 now have not went over 500 mah. I did one battery 8 cycles. Some batteries went up a little and back down. Since the numbers are so low should I keep trying or mark bad?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. I have had batteries that read low to start but they usually go above 500mah after a couple of cycles. I suggest check all settings again to be sure they are correct. If still these batteries are low after several cycles then they should be replaced.

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 questions; Why not us dielectric grease on all the connections to eliminate corrosion? And, while the battery is still in the car, shift to N with the ac on (300+ volts) to draw down the battery. Then shift D to let it charge up. Doesn't that balance the modules too? Use and OBD2 like Dr. Prius to see the status of each block (2 modules) to get an idea of what's going on in the pack?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. Dielectric grease is a fine idea and may help future corrosion. Cycling the battery in the car will cycle the pack as a whole unit which will not address the capacity of each individual battery. I do use dr prius app before doing this service as it enables me to verify that the blocks showing low capacity are the same as the ones I see when refurbishing.

    • @alext8828
      @alext8828 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreggFesto Yes, I understand. But you recycled your batteries and got them up to decent ranges.(the ones that were good). My thought is to do the same thing on the car and then see which ones don't correct themselves. Might save time by having the car do the work instead of doing it on the bench. What am I missing with this logic?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When the pack is together the batteries are arranged series. This means that they are charged/discharged together. When charge capacity is reached on the strongest cell of the pack, could be 1 out of the 28, then the charging stops. When discharge capacity is reached on the weakest battery then the charging starts. This is the same way the charger works. The downside of this is the car does not fully cycle each battery in the pack. I believe that each of the 28 batteries you see me cycle is made up of smaller batteries. It is quite possible that only one of these smaller batteries inside of the gray battery has failed causing the gray battery to read as failed therefore causing the hybrid pack to read as failed. Your lowest capacity "weakest" and your highest capacity "strongest" battery of the 28 gray batteries in the hybrid pack will determine the way your cars charging system behaves. Your pack is only as good as your weakest gray battery.

  • @Luisjun91
    @Luisjun91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I already replace the bad battery cell and measured every battery cell and there all around 7.76 and 2 cells are 7.80. Would you recommend balancing them again and doing the process of discharging and charging them back up

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. You should be just fine to reassemble and drive down the road.

  • @Mr.Great007
    @Mr.Great007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the discharge what voltage need to be set to reach 5000 capacity ?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Settings are at 1:15 in the video. Discharge setting is 1.0A / 6.0V

    • @Mr.Great007
      @Mr.Great007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ thank you so much

    • @Mr.Great007
      @Mr.Great007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ please tell me why we do charge up-to 7000 even though the amount of capacity is 65000 ?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The charger uses delta peak to determine when battery is charged. 7500mah cutoff is required to get capacity back.

  • @tomlundy1006
    @tomlundy1006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do a video that shows the numbers I could use when charging a Hyundia Hybrid battery
    particularly a 2015 Hyundia Sonata

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching. I have not yet had to work on one of those cars and am not sure as to the procedure. You may be able to find a forum and see if someone there has the information for refurbishing process.

  • @aaronmartinez9793
    @aaronmartinez9793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gregg, thank you for this video. I was able to purchase a “new” Dorman refurbed battery for $100 but it’s been sitting unused in a box since 2018. All of the cells I’ve tried read at over 6v but less than 7. When I try to do this, the most I’ve seen in the discharge mah is around 600. Are these modules all dead? I’m 0/8 right now.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching Aaron. You may have to run a couple of cycles on a battery that has been sitting for a long time. If the battery is able to be recovered then this process will do it. Usually I experience CAPA message with low discharge mah for the first couple cycles.

  • @tomlundy1006
    @tomlundy1006 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your video was excellent, except I have a 2015 Hyundia Sonata Hybrid.
    Do you have another video for my type of vehicle?
    I bought the charger you used; I need the detailed directions on how to use it on my batteries
    Please help me!

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching. So far I have only done this process on 2nd and 3rd gen Prius. I suggest searching for a Hyundai forum.

  • @denniskane6221
    @denniskane6221 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the info on the "Full" ending message meaning the same as an END. I got my second "Full" message this morning. I am using your setup of running 3 cycles, but my problem is I can't figure out the key sequence from the FULL message to be able to see my 3 cycle DISCH and CHARGE values for the cycles completed resulting in the FULL message. If I press the BATT TYPE button as I usually do it does not not take me to the cycle values. Any ideas?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I suggest pressing the button furthest to the left on each channel. You can see this at about 6:35 in my video.

  • @1981zamora
    @1981zamora 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here in Los angeles a 2016 module runs about $50 or 55 tops. I found a trusted guy on face market. If you're out o LA I'd said that u can get those modules cheaper than 55 dls

  • @stephenwhite5444
    @stephenwhite5444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great video! Hey i went to buy the charger and it has a warning "This charger is not designed for use with hybrid car batteries. Any such use will damage the charger and is not covered by warranty." Is this still the charger your using?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for watching. Yes I use the CQ3 charger for this process still. I have a red one and a silver one, they both work well and have refurbished many battery packs. There was no such warning when I purchased mine.

  • @kharrell2501
    @kharrell2501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video!!! will this process work on a Chevy Volt? I actually have a Hybrid Cadillac CT6 and I have had problems finding reliable service for it, including the dealership. I know a lot about the vehicle, but lack the battery discharger that GM recommends. Could I use the one that you used in this video perhaps?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. This charger and process should work on most any hybrid battery but the settings may change based on the battery type, voltage, and capacity. I suggest finding a forum for the Volt and see if someone there knows the specifics for battery and refurbish charging.

  • @ТөмөрхуягДагвадорж
    @ТөмөрхуягДагвадорж 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hello dear gregg. help me please. I was used CQ3. But discharge1-3344mah charge1-454mah discharge2-205mah charge2-2973Mah .I think charging should always be more than discharging.
    The configuration is exactly as you specified.
    I used a fan to cool the battery while charging. Is this result due to cooling?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I pay attention to the discharge values. If discharge values are increasing this indicates battery is coming back to life. Try to achieve 5000mah. If the discharge values are decreasing the battery is losing life and should be replaced.

  • @essiecoolman2738
    @essiecoolman2738 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for all your help, I getting lots of cell with between low 4300-4800 should I pass them or replacing I have do multiple cycle of them

    • @essiecoolman2738
      @essiecoolman2738 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was talking about discharge mili amp

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use 5000mah discharge value as my cut-off point.

  • @pathfollower
    @pathfollower 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One thing that I keep seeing about reconditioning these batteries is measuring resistance. Measuring Miliohm resistance in batteries requires specialized equipment. Nothing a multimeter can do. I've been trying to determine a cheap meter that will do this, that isnt in a multithousand dollar specialized hybrid battery restoration machine. I fond them in the $50 range with one paragraph of english instruction, designed for flashlight and 9v style batteries. Don't know if they would work.
    ------UPDATE-----
    Just ordered one. See if it works.

    • @RomanMadVenturesTv
      @RomanMadVenturesTv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any more update?

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some skyrim type chargers can measure it can't they?

    • @kinikinrd
      @kinikinrd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      google iMAX B6AC V2 Charger It can check resistance

    • @thereborndailythereborndai8712
      @thereborndailythereborndai8712 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What NIMH settings would you use for Gen modules?

  • @livingstone6275
    @livingstone6275 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How long can you expect it to take to run a module through 3 cycles of charge/discharge?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Takes about 3 weeks depending on health of the batteries to complete the pack.

    • @livingstone6275
      @livingstone6275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Greg very appreciative for your excellent videos. Bought the CQ3. Am running my pack thru it now. I did a quick and dirty hybrid check already found one bad cell by voltage readings and Internal resistance readings only. Replaced it the hybrid battery lasted 3 mos til red triangle came on again. Was hoping it would last longer til I could check all cells thru the CQ3 properly. This is the best hybrid battery repair video I've been able to find with the simplest instructions..mm

  • @ku9zy
    @ku9zy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello Gregg thank you very much for this video. I encountered such that the first cycle was 4100 and 7500 but the 2nd cycle 2300 on discharge is this a bad cell? I was so happy to see the 1st cycle..

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I suggest running a few more cycles and watching for a trend. If the discharge values continue to fall, this is a bad battery. If the discharge value starts to climb and then reaches 5000mah, this is good and considered refurbished. Write back and let me know how it does.

    • @ku9zy
      @ku9zy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @GreggFesto Thank you, does it have any effect if I charge outside the compression packaging?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The battery will swell when you cycle it. This can be seen in the video where the gap between batteries gets bigger. You should never charge the batteries without compression of pack or something else such as a clamp and wood to keep it in shape.

    • @ku9zy
      @ku9zy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @GreggFesto maybe this is the reason for the decrease in capacity with the new cycle.. yes, they were swell..

  • @denniskane6221
    @denniskane6221 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the battery vendor tip, will try them once I get this refurbish testing done. At time 8:56 of your TH-cam video “Hybrid Battery Pack Refurbish - Step-By-Step w/ Settings - 2nd & 3rd Gen Toyota Prius - CQ3 Charger” you change from your older red CQ3 to a newer silver & blue CQ3 charger. This newer one is what I have and I am having trouble with the instructions for it. If a test ends with a flashing "FULL" and I press the BATT TYPE button, no cycle results are presented, it just return to the initial screen. What does a flashing "FULL" mean. It apparently is not the same as "CAPA' or END. The instructions that came with the charger say nothing about this. Any help appreciated.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My silver charger was purchased about 3 years before the red one. I have a video that shows comparison between them. The message "FULL" is the same as "END". Be aware of the buttons when a cycle has ended. If you press the wrong one then you will get no results. The red and silver chargers have different wording on the buttons but the button position for results is the same (I believe the far left button for each channel).

    • @NyaraiTuge
      @NyaraiTuge 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GreggFestowhere can l buy the charger & howmuch?

    • @cesarcantu9880
      @cesarcantu9880 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah my red C Q 3 charger is doing same thing. Doesnt say full or capa ? Just returns to user settings screen? Im pressing the right button to show results. But shows no results??

  • @MAXMPG
    @MAXMPG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question, which of the two chargers would you recommend the blue or red? I bought the red one. And bought the wires you suggested, the machine fried. I had four modules connected with the four sets of wires, with separation of three modules connected to prevent heat. Kinda not sure to buy another charger. Any suggestions? None of the modules are shorted.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. I have not used Blue before. I have a Silver one and a Red one both of which have done very well for me. I have not had any problems with them other than needing to replace some cooling fans due to noisy bearings. Contact EV-Peak support and let them know about your charger, maybe you can get a replacement.

    • @MAXMPG
      @MAXMPG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreggFesto Thank you. I said blue instead of silver but mean the same. Do both units have same operating parameters? I assume both are equal in programming. Great videos!

  • @russellwittie8961
    @russellwittie8961 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent and well done on your video. Is the Hitec x4 charger the same as this? Thanks

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. I am not familiar with the Hitech charger. If it will do NiMH batteries and has the ability to set the discharge and charge parameters then it should work. If you do decide to get the Hitec charger, please let us know how it does.

  • @TranquiloQuieto
    @TranquiloQuieto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I just started doing this process thank you so much for making it so easy to follow by the way. Am on day 3 now have already done the process on about 11 modules and the low numbers don't go higher than two digits. Should I continue trying to bring them back or just buy new modules?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for watching and commenting. It is acceptable to have low values on discharge mah for a few cycles particularly if the batteries have been sitting for a bit. Have you double checked charger settings? If you have run more than 12 cycles on a battery and still are getting only double digits on the discharge mah values then that battery may not be salvageable.

    • @TranquiloQuieto
      @TranquiloQuieto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have it exactly as you instructed on video one other thing it's only showing me results for one cycle.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you getting display of CAPA or END or FULL at completion of cycles - before you look at the result(s)? There should be a reason your charger will only run 1 cycle instead of the 3 it is set for.

    • @TranquiloQuieto
      @TranquiloQuieto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Capa at the end

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From your description and the CAPA message it appears you are meeting the charge set point of 7500mah on first cycle. This is fine but you will need to run the cycles again until your discharge value is at least 5000mah.

  • @edwinbab3205
    @edwinbab3205 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dr prius shows temp 3 high aroind 115 other two have lower temp aroind 100 car has 292000 miles and temp three is that far side of fan? And shall i replace temp.three cells also shows lower charge level

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching. I do believe you are correct that temp3 is furthest from ECU and closest to blower fan. I would not replace any batteries without testing first to know which ones are failing.

    • @edwinbab3205
      @edwinbab3205 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @GreggFesto thx since temp three has high temp 117 and dr prius shows low levek charge on that cells means probably cells there have high resistance and high heat i reolaced bus bars and regualrly clean the fan i read on google some one said numbwr oneis near opsote side of fan

  • @andyaeschbacher7822
    @andyaeschbacher7822 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the great prius battery videos.
    I watched this video and purchased the same charger that was in the first video, only it's a red model. It says "BGUAD" instead of "EV-PEAK" and the buttons are labeled differently.
    I made sure the settings were exactly what was in the video. I ran my discharge & charge cycle (3x) and when the cycle was completed, I pressed the left button as Gregg did in the video, except I didn't get the same result. When he pressed "Batt. Type" he was able to see the low & high mAh. When I pressed the button located in the same location but labeled "Mode Esc", it took me back to the menu. I ran the scan again thinking I needed to hold it down, but it did the same thing. The other buttons do not take me to the desired menu.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks in advance.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for watching. I hit the same button location on both chargers even though they have different labels.

    • @leakingimplants
      @leakingimplants ปีที่แล้ว

      did you figure this out @andyaeschbacher7822? I just did the same thing, finished the scan and when i hit the Mode/Esc, it did not show my cycles at all, just went back to main menu. I also have the BGUAD, but it's EV-Peak on load screen when you turn it on.

    • @leakingimplants
      @leakingimplants ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i figured it out. the problem is not all chargers that come from amazon are always on 110. i bought two, one was 110 and the other was set to 220. when the 220 got done with the discharge, it would try to charge before failing with INPUT VOL ERR and quit. so what we thought was done was never done so there were no values to show when you clicked MODE/Esc.

    • @vnvet1772
      @vnvet1772 ปีที่แล้ว

      @andyaeschbacher7822 and @leakingimplants - @GreggFesto, did you find a solution. I have the same thing, I hit the far left button and it goes to home on 1,3&4, but on 2 it works as Gregg showed. Since #2 works as shown, I think I must not have exactly the same settings, but I can't see where I went wrong.

    • @vnvet1772
      @vnvet1772 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought I would reply just in case it helps others along the way. After checking and even triple-checking to make sure my settings matched Gregg's instructions, I did a factory reset on all 4 QC3 modules and reentered Gregg's settings. 'Bingo', it seems to be working as planned. However, since the first 4 battery modules charged showed a flashing CAPA, therefore I could only see 1 cycle, and 2 of those modules had less than the desired D - 5000.

  • @Luisjun91
    @Luisjun91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the welding wire has to be any specific one to make better contact?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching. I used stainless steel TIG wire but it can be any metal that conducts. If you ordered new bus bars then you can use them along with your old ones to get the job done. Bailing wire works well too.

  • @amirraz1882
    @amirraz1882 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would you install modules that have a capacity of 4700/7500. I have a lot of them that aren't quite the 5000 discharge capacity and don't know what to do with them

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you for watching. You can certainly install the 4700mah discharge batteries. Please understand that the batteries are connected in series so the capacity of your pack will be only 4700mah.

    • @amirraz1882
      @amirraz1882 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@GreggFestothat's good to know thanks, 4700 is still good in my opinion

  • @Mr.Great007
    @Mr.Great007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great video. I have few questions
    Why do we need to charge upto 7000 and discharge 5000 ?
    What if my voltages go below 6 before reaching 5000 then what to do? Please answer my these two questions. I will be very thankful to you.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can research "Delta Peak Charging" to understand how this works.

  • @Bevoke
    @Bevoke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question Gregg, I’ve had a set of 4 cells that have said ended and full, but when I press the “Mode” button, it doesn’t show me the charge/discharge cycle periods. It just goes to the presets of the charge/discharge rates. Any help would be nice thank you and thank you for the helpful video👌🏽

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. If you got the END message the charger should have run all cycles that you selected without achieving the capacity setpoint. Is it possible that you are selecting the wrong button to view results? I believe it should be the one on far left. If you press the wrong button the results will be lost. Please let me know what you find out.

    • @Bevoke
      @Bevoke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GreggFesto hey thanks for the response, the first time when I read Full, I made sure to press the far left button but the results were lost, I tried again when the modules read End and then I was able to see the results, I don’t know why I didn’t see the results the first time.
      Another question if you don’t mind, how long did it take to “refurbish” the 28 cells with your 2x4 chargers before starting the balance?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The time it takes to do this job will vary based on the health of the batteries. Some could take 2 cycles to bring back to 5000mah while others could take 15 cycles to achieve the same results. I estimate 2-3 weeks is average for me to get the job done.

  • @mamdoohelfadil7999
    @mamdoohelfadil7999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great demonstration, what does the mpg looks like before and after the reconditioning?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for watching. Before reconditioning the car system reported lower 30's MPG average - after reconditioning it was back to upper 40's MPG average.

  • @damian5940
    @damian5940 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you take out the battery from the car are you charge battery to the full first or you straight away discharge the battery ?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching. State of charge does not matter when removed from car. The charger cycle should be set to discharge first then charge.

  • @solomonkwu
    @solomonkwu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Gregg . Thanks for all efforts you did for the new beginner like me I am a big fan of all your videos. I have a question. When I try to start . It just flashes “DLY” I don’t know what does it mean. Thanks again

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. DLY = Delay. It should move past this step without issue. If your charger will not move past DLY on screen then you should check settings. If settings are correct then you should make sure that your leads are ok. If you still cannot move past DLY then you will want to contact EVPeak service.

  • @erm0033
    @erm0033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm currently about half way through reconditioning my 2007 battery pack.
    Quick question, if you don't mind: Is the number of cycles required to hit the 5000/7500 values an indication of the remaining life in a module, or is that number irrelevant as long as those values are reached? Asked another way, does a module that required 10 cycles to reach 5000/7500 have less life remaining than one that required only 2 cycles? Thank you for your time.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you for watching. That is a good question, unfortunately I do not know the answer. I suspect that the battery which took 10 cycles to recover is not as healthy as the one that took only 2 cycles but just don't know. This would be a good question for a forum such as PriusChat. I have had some take over 15 cycles to come back around and they seem to work just fine. If you do get an answer to this from someone that knows, please write back in and share with us.

    • @erm0033
      @erm0033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreggFesto Thanks for getting back to me. If I do find an answer I'll be back to share.

  • @Elzorab26
    @Elzorab26 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    how long does the whole procedure take?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      About 3 weeks

  • @rickwilson2848
    @rickwilson2848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i have a 2012 Prius C which i bought a replacement battery from a refurbisher that has a 1 yr warranty. I installed the battery myself which was easy. After getting it completely hooked up the hybrid warning comes back on just like before. Does this mean that there are bad cells in the replacement battery or is there somethung else I should be looking at?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching. You may need to clear the codes more than once and/or unplug the 12V battery for a few minutes after replacing the pack. Confirm the orange plug is properly installed with the locking tab pressed down all the way. Be sure all wires and plugs are connected. Did the reconditioned battery come with computer and electronics or did you reuse you old ones?

    • @rickwilson2848
      @rickwilson2848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GreggFesto it can complete! even with the fan connected. I gave an obd2 code reader from Oreilly that i have plugged in several times and i did disconnect the small battery and put a small trickle charge on overnight. it’s puts out 1.2 volts and the dash lights up good. So do l need to take this to toyota and reprogram the computer or what?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have checked all connections, confirmed orange plug is properly inserted/locked, disconnected 12V battery for a few minutes, then cleared codes a few times it is possible you got a failed battery or have another issue. What did the company you purchased battery from suggest? If they are of no help and you have no specific code for what is the issue then you indeed may require diagnosis by a professional.

    • @rickwilson2848
      @rickwilson2848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GreggFesto i will get ahold of them monday and see what they will say. i’m sure i did everything right BUT there is a possibility that maybe something is not plugged in good but i will double check. would my obd2 show the codes or does it have to be a different type of scanner that toyota uses

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You may need a better reader such as Techstream or Autel to get more specific codes but you might be able to tell what the issue is with your current OBD2 reader. Please do let me know what you find out, I am interested to know what the resolution is.

  • @ahmetcanturk641
    @ahmetcanturk641 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Greg! I do have the charger and set up the settings as you showed. However when I start the process it ends super quickly and gives stupid values. For example on the first run discharge shows 489mAH and charge 290mAh. On the second run 228-1044 and on the third 755-277. This 3 digit values happen in all 4 ports. Mind you the device runs 3 cycles in less than 35 mins which is absurd. Why do you think this could be?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. I have not had this experience. Did your HV pack sit for a long time before starting the process? I suggest checking the settings one more time and then trying to run some more cycles to see if the numbers start to come up.

    • @ahmetcanturk641
      @ahmetcanturk641 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ Hey thank you for replying. I got the battery pack from a vehicle that’s been throwing a battery pack deteriorating error code. The car drove fine except sometimes it threw the code and stopped the hybrid engine. After deleting the code it starts running again for a couple of days without giving an error again. Our device settings are pretty much identical. I have the red device. I believe I do have either 18 or 22 awg wires as the amazon listing doesn’t specify it. I ordered 14 awg ones as I suspect the wires are whats causing the problem. Could that be the case what do you think?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, yes, I think that could be an issue. It is my understanding that too small of a wire will cause issues with the current flow. I hope the new wires you ordered will be the solution. If this does solve your issue, please let me know so I can add this to the description and maybe even put a link to the same wires you get.

  • @starmhz1
    @starmhz1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video I'm learning so much. Question for example on cell 20 about how long did it take you to do one cycle?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. I am not sure how long it takes to do a cycle as it will depend on the health of the battery. I set the charger up and check it a couple times per day. The whole process takes 2-3 weeks usually.

    • @sueellenmcgoey6095
      @sueellenmcgoey6095 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GreggFestowow😮 had no idea it was a long process! Thanks for the heads up!❤

  • @irritantno9
    @irritantno9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great resource! Any parameters for ford escape batteries?
    You should also measure from positive post to bottom mounting lug. I had a battery pack that was leaking through the boss and causing a high voltage leak to ground fault.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for watching and commenting with a great suggestion.

    • @irritantno9
      @irritantno9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What relationship does the 7500mAh upper limit have to the stated capacity of the cell? I’m trying to figure out what the parameters would be be for my escape.
      The Toyota gen2 mAh is 6500, but I believe you set an upper limit of 7500.
      The escape cells are rated 6V @ 5500mAh.
      Is the 1000 over an arbitrary amount?
      I’m not criticizing, I just want to approach the escape batteries with some reasonable test scheme.
      I’ve been charging cells and subjecting them to a load test.
      I’m using the ebc-a10h unit.

    • @irritantno9
      @irritantno9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Btw the escape batteries are a real headache to get to. My daughters 08 Prius had the ground fault and I could probably tear down 10 Prius packs in the time it took me to do one escape.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am not a charger expert by any means and do not know what the settings for Escape would be. I am using settings that were acquired from forum called PriusChat where there are many discussions about refurbishing the battery packs. Perhaps you can find the settings you need at a forum for Escape or join the PriusChat forum where one the people there who have better knowledge than I do about this subject could help. I appreciate you watching my video and hope you get the Escape going. A video of how you do it could be very helpful to others if you have time to produce one.

    • @GaryMarkowski
      @GaryMarkowski ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@irritantno9 It sounds like there are 5 cells in a module (1.2v x 5 = 6v). Personally, I think a better mah for Prius is 6500 mah. For the Prius, the max voltage of a module is (6 cells x 1.433333v = 8.60v). For the Escape, it sounds like you have 5 cells (which are likely 1.2v each). Max voltage for Escape may be (1.4333v x 5 cells = 7.16666v. This is just extrapolating the data you provided here (of 6V @ 5500 mah).

  • @williamchow1624
    @williamchow1624 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you recommend any other charger after using the CQ3 or are you completely satisficed with the performance

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have been completely satisfied with the CQ3 however I have been getting some comments that the CQ3 new literature states not to use it on hybrid batteries. I have not used other brands yet.

  • @briansilva9120
    @briansilva9120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Greg, great video thanks for sharing, however I’m interested in purchasing the same battery chargers but I’m curious how long it takes to discharge and recharge each battery module normally? I’ll be using the chargers for business so it’s not for personal use, thanks in advance

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching. The time it takes to cycle each battery module will vary based on health of the battery. Some batteries you can run 3 cycles and it is good while others may require 15 or more cycles. I start the charger then check it a couple times throughout the day so I am not usually around when a cycle ends. In my experience it takes around 16-20 days to do the whole pack.

    • @briansilva9120
      @briansilva9120 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I just received my CQ3 charger today so I’m currently testing it on one module, I followed your settings to set up mines 👍🏼

  • @SkyGizmmo
    @SkyGizmmo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Question why has Get FPV placed a disclaimer on these chargers that they NOT for use on Hybrid car batteries?
    Have you experienced?
    Seems like you have done many many cycles with your two units….
    Perhaps others don’t get your settings correct?
    I prefer your assessment method to many load test, and other options.
    Let me/ us know please.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. I have heard recently about this warning but not sure why this is the case. Have they changed something in the charger since I purchased mine? My units were purchased several years apart and seem to work exactly the same. I have been using CQ3 for over 6 years with fantastic results. I have the Red CQ3 running on a battery right now as I type. The only issues I have ever had with these chargers is with the small cooling fan inside which starts to make bearing noise. The fan is cheap and easy to replace.

  • @TooleHigh
    @TooleHigh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I ask you a question, how long does it take to do a 5 cycle on a cell ?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. The time it takes to do 5 cycles will depend on the health of the battery. You might reach 5000mah discharge and CAPA on first cycle and the battery is done. In my experience 2-3 weeks is about what it takes to do the whole process.

    • @TooleHigh
      @TooleHigh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ thank you for responding and your video was helpful

  • @jdwaynegamboa8937
    @jdwaynegamboa8937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. How do you dispose of modules that have been determined bad? What is the charge voltage at 3amps?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. We have recycle area at the dump in my city for batteries so I take them there. I do not know the answer to your volt/amp question.

  • @CC-ey4ld
    @CC-ey4ld 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    would you happen to know the numbers for the Cells on a 2013 ES 300H? I'm looking at overhauling mine at the moment.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching. I have not worked on that model of battery, I do not know settings for it. Maybe try going to a chat group for that car if you can find one and see if they can be of help. If you find the specs and do the refurbish, please post on TH-cam to help others.

  • @Luisjun91
    @Luisjun91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What should u set up the Input Power low cut off mines at 11.0v

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching. I left input power low cut-off at 10.0V. If you are using AC power this setting will not make any difference.

  • @Sagemeister007
    @Sagemeister007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started my hybrid battery project today. Is it ok to leave the modules in the casing when doing the dishcarge and charge? Second, if my initial voltage reading before the cycle was 6.8, should I replace that one and not waste time with discharge/charge? Thank you so much!

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice!!
      Yes, you can leave the modules in the case.
      I would run every battery no matter the volt reading.
      Good luck, Please let us know how how it goes. I am interested to learn many bad batteries you find and what kind of mah readings you get.

    • @MeanDaGreenScreenBra
      @MeanDaGreenScreenBra ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't waste time doing cycles on any module with a resting voltage of 6.8V. The resting voltage (i.e. the voltage you measure after letting the module rest unconnected for a while) you measure on a module should bounce back to around 7.2V even in a discharged state. This is because the resting voltage is more dependent on the underlying chemistry rather than how much charge is stored in the battery. This underlying chemistry ensures that NiMH cells come back to 1.2V/cell. Since you have 6 cells per module, that would be 7.2V. Anything lower than that strongly implies that the underlying chemistry of one of the cells is not allowing it to return to 1.2V/cell, hence your module reading 6.8V.

  • @rodolfoluev
    @rodolfoluev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why did you set the capacity cut off at 7500 mA when the gen 2+3 prius module capacity is 6500?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The CQ3 charger uses delta peak charging.

  • @kstn77
    @kstn77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KIA Optima 2017 battery, with the same settings to restore? Thanks for the video, it helped a lot.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have only worked on Prius batteries so far. You may be able to find information for the KIA Optima on a forum? Thank you for watching.

  • @mugurpetrea6842
    @mugurpetrea6842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the bad modules, why didn't you go lower voltage on cycles? With a lower current

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting. I have been told that it could be detrimental to discharge under 6.0V but have done it before and did not see much difference. Lowering the current does seem to help some but adds considerable time. I may try the lower current settings on some of the batteries I replaced from this pack and see whats happens. If good results, I will make a video.

  • @jimamsonabouzeid3033
    @jimamsonabouzeid3033 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Gregg for that amazing video, i have my Prius has been sitting for year cause the battery pack after watching your video i decided to refurbish all , i respect all your instructions. The voltage test before i started on each module are 7.94V on each only the first one i fund 6.69V . My worries is i fund CAPA message for every single module i restored at the first or second or third cycle i add one more cycle Example Discharge 3416 Charge: 7201 the second one is D-Ch 4952, C-7500mh two or three cycles on each module i tried to restore. If after 5 cycles the battery never reach 5000mh or 7500mh. do i have to replace all modules?

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. It looks to me as if your discharge value is increasing with each cycle and your charge value has reached CAPA of 7500mah. This is perfect results. Run cycles until you reach at least 5000mah discharge and you will be good. If you also have 7500mah on charge at same time then this is a great battery.

  • @aydinkarli1309
    @aydinkarli1309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi greg my question is do ı need to change dead modules or can I fix the dead modules with your methot

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. This method will show you which batteries are able to be saved and which need to be replaced. It will bring back batteries that are getting weak. You will need to replace any batteries that cannot be brought back. The goal overall is to have no battery with a discharge value of less than 5000mah.

  • @denniskane6221
    @denniskane6221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. We have 3 gen 2 & 2 Gen 3 Prius's in family & I am the car guy. Bought 1 of the recommended chargers & may buy another per your recommendations before I start taking the batteries apart. Also have Dr. Prius app & various OBDII tools. Just one question before I start. Do you have any regen battery vendor you would recommend for purchasing modules from? Would love to hear if you do. Thanks much.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for watching. I bought 2nd charger just to speed things up a bit. If you are not pressed for time then a single unit is all you will need. On average it takes about 3 weeks per battery pack with a single charger. I have received really good batteries from vendor called AloyHybrid on eBay.

  • @1981zamora
    @1981zamora 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, all those modules that you replaced you can put them to reconditioning on the charger cuz it takes days to do the whole HB. It'd take about a week if you have 4 charger

  • @forextrinitrader
    @forextrinitrader 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Process completed.... changed out 8 bad modules. Dr Prius app says I got 97% capacity left and battery is in new condition! 😊 Will see how long this lasts before I get the orange triangle of death again 😂

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for watching and providing awesome feedback.

    • @davemueller7017
      @davemueller7017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the charsoon antimatter. Basically the same in operation and function.
      When i started in 2018 it seems there was a lot less info.
      Thankful for the recap on numbers for set up and what we want.
      I can only charge at 7.2 or 8.4, it goes past 9v and upwards of 10v on 8.4. I dont like that

    • @profoundminds_9021
      @profoundminds_9021 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All my modules all seems to be good on discharging but needed help getting up to full capacity.

    • @MowgliLA
      @MowgliLA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Is there any updates on your battery? I hear people telling me that reconditioning doesnt worth it since the battery will be weak again in 2-3 months. Is that true? Cause i am thinking if taking a risk and buying tools and all that or just go pay for a new or refurbished battery?

    • @user-sp5bn6ye8y
      @user-sp5bn6ye8y 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MowgliLArefurbished/reconditioned is what he just did. This is the type of battery you'll be buying. If you have the time, patience an ls correct equipment to do it yourself, you can

  • @jayskrills7375
    @jayskrills7375 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the one you ran 20 times made it to 4977 and not 5000 you mentioned was bad is that number not close Enough or were there other reasons

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. The pack will only be as strong as the lowest value battery. I use 5000mah as my cutoff point. I reject anything that does not make this capacity.

    • @jayskrills7375
      @jayskrills7375 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's good to know thanks for the video and the feedback, I ended up buying 5 replacement packs after using your method same dis/charger ,I told the company one of the 5 modules is bad only 4500mah discharge and they had me tell them how i did the test they told me I was never supposed to Charge them to 7500mah and they say 6500 mah is the max charge on these so denied my warranty so I'm out 37$ no big deal just wanted your opinion​ the one was only 4500 mah discharge other ones were over 5k mah@@GreggFesto

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your feedback. You are not actually charging the battery to 7500mah in a standard way but rather setting the cutoff at 7500mah when using delta peak charging. Did you end up buying another battery or did you install the 4500mah one?

  • @joshmuluba9091
    @joshmuluba9091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video but I am still getting the P0A80 code after I followed your instructions with low charging modules range from 5066 to 5793 and all of them have 7500 on high charging. It took weeks getting all cell modules completed with one CQ3 unit. I also balanced them using wire daisy chain for 4 days but I am still having the same code P0A80. Please advise.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching. Did you clear the codes from vehicle after putting it back together? If yes, did the code come back instantly or did you have to do a few drive cycles? Did you install clean bus bars and screws? Are the contacts on block wires (every other battery module) clean? Have you checked the wiring checked the wiring on the computer side of the pack and make sure everything is plugged in. There are some coils that the wiring passes through on the computer side of the pack which go bad sometimes and will cause same generic code. What code reader and app are you using?

    • @joshmuluba9091
      @joshmuluba9091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      new nuts, new bars and cleared code using tech tream apps but code returns instantly.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suggest double checking that the orange plug disconnect latch is locked in place properly with that bar on it seated fully. The wires that go to every other battery have ends that are crimped on which if loose can cause problems I have had to solder these before. With your techstream app, can it show if the white coils (located in the battery pack that the orange wires pass through) are working properly? I have replaced these before. I am making suggestions based on my own personal experiences. You can find others with more experience than myself on PriusChat forum. Please write back and let me know what you figure out, I am interested to learn more.

    • @GreggFesto
      @GreggFesto  ปีที่แล้ว

      What did you determine was wrong with the car?

    • @joshmuluba9091
      @joshmuluba9091 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has been a month since I reconditioned cells but still getting the P0A80 code. I am running out of option as I am trying to love this car but.....@@GreggFesto