Reconditioning a good hybrid battery Part 1 of 2
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- One of the most expected videos in this channel is for sure this one so please pay very attention so this could help you to perform a great service to your toyota hybrid battery.
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Fantastic! Such a simple explanation. I think this is what has happened to my wife’s car. Unfortunately don’t know how to get the system balanced. The dealership will probably deny any knowledge of this! 😄
I like the presentation skills involved. Can't exist the video.
Thanks Hassan 😁👍
hello thank you for your video, professional quality, can you give us more details on the charging device and the discharging device used and how to reproduce the same connection.
highly eloquent and persuasive explanation, congrats bro, we indeed take highly advantage of your ingeniousness, BWT could we have the simulation program of the battery cells to be used in our college?!
Full details on every steps . Well done. Thank you
thanks a lot for your effort
Very useful information
You are most welcome
these are good videos
Thank you 🙏
Were you located? You have good teaching abilities
Good job
Amazong video, thanks!
Thanks and don’t forget to share 👍👍✅✅
You are supper good ! 👍
I've been watching your videos for quite long time. Since last year hybrid cars started to be sold in my country Colombia and I see a huge business opportunity here to offer the service of reconditioning hev batteries. I would like to know where I can start and if you can sell some advices about the equipment and how I can start my own business here. Thank you so much.
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Excellent explanation!
Is there any fire danger? I can see the melted connections. That means as you say overheat. Are we in danger? :)
My Toyota Aqua is 2014 model.. Please educate me. Life expectancy test showed 73.50%. Ck voltage = 137.24v, Blade Voltage : 6.86v
Piece of word is missing here, I can only see T E of charge 39..61%, CURRENT 56.18Amp....
Charge Power 19.43HP
I was going to say the cables to the discharge unit looked very thin, but then you mention the discharge current is actually quite low ...
Is there no balancing at all? Or is the balancing passive (resistors in the bms)?
It's hard to believe toyota didn't do something to mitigate this
Not in this system
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics Good to know. I'm due a battery replacement in my 2009 Lexus RX450h. I will ask the shop tech about it once the battery clears customs...
So, there is no way to force a rebalancing by some sort of "rebalancing program" within the car? It then needs to be removed, deeply discharged and slowly recharged as you have done in both part one and part two of this video?
And, you recommend doing this every 3-6 months??? First, this is no DIY process. One would need the equipment and instrumentation you have to do this "reconditioning" properly.
I totally agree with everything you have said in these two videos because I work with LifePo4 cells in a solar system. The importance of balancing is the same. However, I can actively rebalance myself if they get too far out of balance.
Here, with the Prius and cars like it, no one I know has this equipment/instrumentation to rebalance an EV or Hybrid battery nor do I know of a shop that does this.
As such I find this video interesting and technically correct but frustrating since I can't do this myself. How about manufacturers putting in a BMS with an active balancer either to balance automatically when cells become out of balance to a certain threshold or a program in the digital display in the cockpit to be able to manually activate a rebalancing?
Not many EV/Hybrid owners know about this and you are the only one I've seen even mention the value of rebalancing one's Lithium Ion cells let alone find a shop locally that might know how to do it. In fact, I question whether the dealership would even know how to do this. I'd be their solution would be; "you need a new battery."
I would love to refer individuals to you (within geographical limitations) but it appears you do not like to reveal your location. Not sure why if you run a business but that is not my concern I guess. Additionally, it also appears you prefer TikTok. I, and many like myself, refuse to use TikTok for obvious reasons.
Thanks for your videos. Just found you through ScannerDanner.
Interesting topic my good friend, but sure… you can contact me via instagram DM or Facebook if you don’t like TikTok… I’m located in the beautiful Caribbean 🇹🇹🇹🇹
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics you are located in Trinidad andTobago?
Hey I live in a island in the Caribbean name St vincent an I have a toyota aqua hybrid 2012 needs a battery don't know if u can help me fine a place in the US to get one
Yes I can help, send me a DM via instagram.
We are coming very soon to St Vincent with our amazing hybrid vehicle training program…
I'm confused. I've seen videos where they hook up to each individual cell to discharge and recharge, with wires going everywhere, but you just hooked up a few leads to discharge and recharge the whole pack as one. Could you explain?
Also I've seen people line the cells up in parallel to balance them?
Thanks for your your knowledge
Easier to rebalance collectively ✅✅
If you discharged the battery down to 84 volts, aren't you discharging individual modules down to 3 volts?
Isn't that way too low?
I read that these modules should not be discharged below 5.9 volts and some say even 6.3 volts.
Does this process work with the 2010 to 2015 Toyota Prius?
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@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics 👍 Thanks!! I just recently purchased a 2012 Toyota Prius, this is my first Prius and I was wondering what I could do to service the vehicle. Then I came across your channel. Love what you're doing and I was curious on your opinion, do you think it would be worth me reconditioning the hybrid battery even though it's probably never been done before and that it's 11 years old?
It sounds ok to re-balance cells. But what about the internal resistance of the individual cells. Cells will not age equally and IR of cells will increase as they get older. Since the rate of change is unequal, cells with higher IR (more than 10% difference in IR) will loose more charge than others. Over time you will have imbalance again. Effectively back to square one. I think you should get yourself an IR meter and measure the IR of individual cells ensuring they are within 5% of each other which is what I would do. Otherwise you are OK.
Usually these NiMH modules loose capacity due to aging or heating ( specially the cells located in the middle of the pack). you cant check the remaining usable capacity of individual module by cycle charging the whole pack. There is no point of cycling if cells have different capacity.
Would you use the same charge/discharge steps for a battery with LiFePO4 modules, like Nexcell's?
Works just fine but the nexpower batteries don’t need this… they have now a self balancing included
THIS VIDEO IS SUPER AWESOME, I ALWAYS EXPLAIN THIS MY CUSTOMERS RECONDITION 2 TO 3 YEARS ACCORDING TO YOUR DEIVING MILEAGE BUT THEY ALWAYS THINK YOU SAYING THAT TO JUST MAKE MONEY FROM THEM
If you have 300k miles on your car and need to replace your hybrid battery, the chances of your car lasting another 15 years and another 300k miles are slim to none. So paying to replace the hybrid battery might not be worth it. So basically the car needs to be retired after the hybrid battery goes dead.
BUT....if the hybrid battery goes dead, can you still drive it? Will you get the same mpg as that same car in a non hybrid version from that point on??
Curious why that is your conclusion. I would feel the same with many other cars. But if one of these has 300k and was maintained it probably is a great 0latform to keep running. Might have some big'ish expenses but nothing compared to the cost of a new car.
Boss give me some tips.
I have no that charger so
if i rebalance all modules and reassemble again but not contacted bus bars and i contacted all modules in parallel with jump wires and and charge with 12 v battery charger and when the all modules reached 7.5 volt its means its charged fully then i will discharge with 6 volt halogen bulb💡 which takes load in . Points.
That's idea work or not ?
And i have one more idea.
If i balance all the models and change in that place i means on parallel on balancer ?
I know its swell
But i will discharge again on that balancer deep discharge when i complete that process 3 times then i leave modules discharge and reassemble with bus bars and fit in car then i will start car in maintenance mode that idea work or not ?
7.5 is not fully charged but it will work anyways
My Highlander Hybrid 2008 working flawless. Do you recommend to send the battery for this kinda reconditioning process? Thank you for your reply !
Does any new Toyota battery have self balancing system?
Not for NiMH… although they are supposed to stay in balance fore some years but then happens what it happens
And Boss what the voltage of one single module deep discharge ? One single module full charged on 7.8 volt ?
And what the deep discharged voltage?
Hi please recommend me, Hybrid Battery balancer or charger, discharger system or want to work on professional just some struggling about the system. I’m already auto Mechanic thanks
Hi, I replaced 2 modules on #6 block that was showing bad, but its still showing same problem. Could something else be wrong other than the modules?
Thanks
hey would it be possible you can show us how to charge a gmc yukon hybrid battery mine went dead but would like to charge it at home instead taking it to a shop again.
Hi, José From Puerto Rico. I have a Toyota Prius C 2012 with 44, 000 miles That Was involve in a front car accident in 2015. The car Was Stop in My yard From 2015 to 2023 Stop. I buy the 12 volt battery and only start light dash with Orange triangle but not go on the combustión engine. Question? Did You Thinq the hybrid module battery can Be recharged and It Be Ok. It has Been 8 years Without charge! The car Is in excellent conditions and I Will Like to bring It to life! What Your advice. Hybrid technology fan Always 🙋🏽♂️
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Can I see any cell voltages before opening the battery? I get very poor range on ev mode on my yaris 2012.. battery indicator never goes to 100% or below 2 bars..
i have a 2012 Infiniti M35h i want to recondition the battery also, i was wondering how much it will cost me to do that?
Can an Launch X 431 read HV battery behaviour. Like monitoring individual cell?
My Boss said if u don't wear gloves u might be dead from shork and explosion
I am in Southern California Just outside of Los Angeles can you help me or can you recommend someone.
How do you understand if any of the modules are in bad condition rather than just unbalanced so you can got and get a new module to replace it?
Thank you for a most imformative video, well presented.
Glad you liked it 🙏😎🔋🔋🔋
Hi! I purchased used BMW Activehybrid 7 2011 and now facing the issue with hybrid battery multifunctional signal. Please advise what should I do?? I couldn't find any clip on TH-cam related to BMW Hybrid Battery 😞
Hey Jose, great video as always. I want to ask how often do you get swollen modules when you remove them and do you replaced them with used modules of similar SOH? I want to service my hybrid battery but bit concern about not refitting cells back if they are swollen! Its shame that I can't come to you as I am in New Zealand.
Definetly swollen modules are not to be installed back so the need immediate replacement
On dr prius app shows temp three higher 115 how come.not middle one so shall i move them
Love this dude! He needs a camera crew for all these gems. Thank you!
Jejeje glad you liked my friend 🫡✅ just using my phone ☝️😅
In the Automotive job the more u get busy explaining the more u are not trusted... So explain once and do other things
Too much talking. Less progress.. worst videos
this guy makes me wanna work for him... are you hiring bro?
HOWdy H-S-D, ...
Thanks
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What year is your hybrid
Here, with the Prius and cars like it, no one I know has this equipment/instrumentation to rebalance an EV or Hybrid battery nor do I know of a shop that does this. Is there any way I could find out what software you have hook up to battery , Your VIdeo Just Makes Good since!
Balancing is easy. Remove all modules and connect them in parallel (all the positive are connected together and all the minus are connected together).
I saw a video where one guy used solder (in wire form) to do this.
That made it really easy because solder wire is very soft.
After you connect the modules,together, leave them like that for a day or two.
The electricity will flow from more charged to less charged modules until they are all in the same state of charge (exact same voltage).
That is balancing.
That however does not solve the issue of some modules having more capacity than others.
The charging and discharging individual modules is an attempt to correct that problem.
Jose. As I was listening I said to myself this guy is a Cubano. When I heard you say “tuko tuko tu” I said Coño este tipo es my Hermano. Excellent video you gained a sub. 👍🏼
Bro you threw in a “takata” I got chills. My dad says that all the time.
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He'll my friend. Where can Where can I find the charging machine?. Please thank
What equipment do you use to charge and discharge the battery and where could I buy it?
Greetings Sir Jose! Thank you for your meticulous detail! I have a question that pertains to something you said about the temerature differece between the 3 sensors that measure the hybrid battery. i have a 2006 Hylander Hybrid that has the NiMH modules, as you know. I am getting a 4 to 5 degree difference in the temperature between the 3 separate fans that control the temperature. Is this normal or is there an internal problem or what do you suggest? Thank YOU!
You sadly can’t replace the modules in highlander, so because it’s a bigger battery it’s Definitely way long lasting…. Just keep it clean inside the vehicle 👋😎✅✅✅
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics yes, I have also keep the vents clean… I just wondered if you had something to say about the temperature difference and if that is somehow related to the battery degradation.
Interesting video. Like to see soon how the battery is performing now after maintenance. 👍
In a week it should be ready ☝️🧐
I love you man
Thanks brother don’t forget to share ✅✅
Which weather is worse? I lost a lot of battery compacity in my PiP during winter. So both summer and winter are bad? I'm in Las Vegas.
Both in extreme will affect for sure…
Very nice sir.
From where can i buy a hybrid Battery charger? & which one is better?
Really it is the best video that is exeplaining how to fix the hybriid battery...thanks alot..
Very interesting, im curious to know what would happen when the first battery bank depletes. Does the system stops to provide the electricity or continues until all banks are depleted? If all banks reach the depletion, wouldnt that rebalance all battery banks?
I've got re-watching the video; banks also do not deplete😊
Please where can I find the charger to charge
I wish you where in Africa
Boss were u get this knowledge?
Para aumentar a autonomia (aumentar o número de células do Ford Fusion 2015 ) e que tenho bateria Ford original Hybrid e tava pensando em fazer a continuação das células . Será que é possível
E parabéns pelo seu trabalho vc e top
I really enjoyed the information you shared on your TH-cam channel, I have a Hyundai sonata that has sat for five years. I don't know why it was left to sit mileage is around 140k hybrid battery is dead and I need to put a 12 battery in it also. Any thoughts on getting it to run. So I can see if engine is good without buying a replacement hybrid battery?
Hi, Thank you for the video.I have a toyota prius 2010 and it gives me ( P0A80 ) and I did everything in the video and drove 350 miles. After this the code didn't go away. Could you help me, what else can I do?
how long has this battery been in use? jose
Since 2019
An question, I have this 2010 toyota prius that was popping check hybrid system once or twice a month but after cleaning bus bars I get error on every start up and sometimes during driving even if it was cleared at startup?
Hi i need charge for Hybrid battery can you tell me where can i buy ?
Any low current charger will work… just make sure courage’s matches
I have this car 2019 has P0A80 replace hybrid battery will i do the way you're doing or i just replace the battery
You can do the balance by putting the + on a roll and by default the - on a roll for 6 hours .. it will balance by itself if the battery is 75%.
You don't need all this time to do it.
Thank you for this interesting and informative review, but is it possible to make an evaluation of the Kia Sportage Hybrid Battery?
Sure… plug a scan tool and do all the tests
What do u think about the 2017 nissan note epower compared to the aqua on maintainance and life expectancy
Better…
Thanks you ser my name is Mustafa for Nigeria good job but what is the sing the car with geif you when it have betry problem please
Hi
I m much pleased to see your videos about hybrid car problems and solutions. I m using Toyota Aqua 2013 and recently showing the hybrid battery sign .All cell pack voltage is 17+ each. Please share your opinion to solve the problem .
Thanks in advance
If the battery pack is bad how do you know which cell needed to be replaced? Your charger cycle all the cells together.
Very easy to determine actually 🫡
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics can you let me know how 🤔? I saw a whole lot of your videos and didn't figure it out. How you finding a bad cell (without the torque app)
The battery might have died because you can't leave these Hybrids sitting without running as they will self discharge after a few weeks sitting?
Hy sir if I want a battery of Toyota aqua can sent me from Pakistan
Sure… any time
The information you provide in your videos is priceless, I'm applying it to my GEN3 Prius with the standard NiMH, and for that I thank you very much! I also own a 2022 Prius still brand new w/4K ODO running lithium battery consisting in 56 cells (no modules) -question: is this battery serviciable? like... can you rotate cells, clean busbars like you would do in the NiMH w/28 modules? I wasn't able to find any inforamtion about this battery but I have a feeling this is a sealed system /disposable --any thoughts? thanks a lot Jose!
Just for cleaning purposes my friend… no need for rotation in this type of batteries… just keep it clean 🫡✅🫡✅
If you have 300k miles on your car and need to replace your hybrid battery, the chances of your car lasting another 15 years and another 300k miles are slim to none. So paying to replace the hybrid battery might not be worth it. So basically the car needs to be retired after the hybrid battery goes dead.
BUT....if the hybrid battery goes dead, can you still drive it? Will you get the same mpg as that same car in a non hybrid version from that point on??
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy Not sure how this relates to my question, as my car has 4 thousand miles on it, and I don't plan to have it until 300k, also many people replace HV batteries at 150~200k miles, but thanks for your feedback.
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy problem is not in hybrid batteries but in that nobody wants to fid bad cells and replace them.. allSmartASSS dealers wanna jurge u like 5-7 grand for whole system and this is not worth it
@@MilkyWayGalaxyyyou are absolutely wrong. I have am a 4 time Prius owner. So far go as high as 700,000 miles on the same engine, changed out battery at 330,000. These car last.
buenos noches Jose,
entonces primero hay que balancear el paquete, luego cargarlo y nuevamente balancearlo?
Hello Jose, tell me is it possible to restore a single element in this way by discharging it with a current of 0.2 A and charging it with a current of 0.2A ? First up to 4.7 V, then up to 3.6 V and at the end up to 3V?
I have a 2006 Hybrid prius and would like to change my high voltage battery. Any guidance ?
Surely you get a few more years out of it but it's an aging pack with limited life remaining? I'm curious what your view is.
Worth it is to service as preventive maintenance as long as the battery is good
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics What makes a battery good or bad - what can we measure to make that determination? Great, detailed videos - great detailed information much more than the typical take down/replace youtubes!!!!
So why couldn’t u just mount big fans on top of the modules blowing cool cabin air down on em
Awesome 👍
Thanks Boss ☺️
Best Regards from Poland
Hi , where can i buy that cable to make my toyota hybrid a plug in hybrid?
What is the program or software you are using in the simulation ?
great professional congratulations greetings from Italy
Thanks a lot maurizio 👋😎
Just wanted to say 'Thank you' for your very helpful videos. I was able to get my 2008 Prius back on the road. I appreciate it.
What was your battery capacity and did you get a reconditioned battery
Amazing channel thank you for this information!
Thank you Stephan ☝️🙂
Parabéns pelo trabalho e pelo profissionalismo. Obrigado por compartilhar seu conhecimento!! Thanks a lot!
Obrigado a voce 👋😃
What is the best way to keep the Hybrid battery charged when the car is not used for a few months?
How do you fix the corrosion problem in the voltage sensor plug?
I would like to see how to do chevy volt batteries.
Can you recondition once you get a p1b74 code?
Me encanta como te explicas. Gracias desde España.
Gracias Antonio 🙏
Do you have to take the battery out of the car in order to only balance it ?
Regardless of how the problem happened or even how to fix it. Does this mean to say the battery management system was not doing it's job correctly?
Toyota does not have a real bms in these batteries. If it did, the system would keep the balanced