Razer Cobra Pro Review.. Razer's First L in Years?
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- Razer Cobra Pro.. Razer's First L in Years?
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Razer should streamline their mice line up "Ultimate" for feature packed mice, and "Pro" for super light pure performance mice.
Some people seem to forget that the word "Pro" is short for Professional, and the Cobra Pro really doesn't seem like a mouse professional players would use
@@Billy_The_Frog Nah. "Pro" is used for their flashship wireless mice while "x hyperspeed" is used for removable battery mice
@@Billy_The_Frog That's the point of this comment. This mouse isn't named aptly and should be called either just Razer Cobra or Razer Cobra Ultimate. A less feature-packed and purely performance focused mouse is should be called "Pro" as the comment you replied to originally stated. Unless that's what you also meant and I am misinterpreting what you are trying to say.
I’m the type where shape is king, weight doesn’t matter to me, rgb no rgb doesn’t matter to me, wired or wireless doesn’t matter to me. Just good specs and shape. I’ve tried every top mouse out there from zowie, razer, Logitech, glorious and what not. And this cobra is actually so fire to me so I guess the mouse is made for me LOL I didn’t ask for it but I got it and I love it
The only person on the planet. Why would you use this over a viper ultimate?
@@mikerzisu9508 "Shape is king" ? He mentioned it
@@mikerzisu9508congratulations on thinking mouse weight is why you are stuck in silver. Alot of pros still use old 80g mice
6.5/10? That score sounds like you're not taking the price into consideration. It's under 5 with that price.
You might be right
considering price any razer device is 0. here in Ukraine we have one brand of gaming devices that has same or better performance for half or even third the price
Considering price then all the Big Gaming Brands should be under 5 too
@@xshadddyou've probably yet to try the DAV3 wired then. Shame their wired is better than the wireless
@@xshadddbrand name?
Doesn't make sense why they would drop the ball here, and the design really does look like it was planned years ago like you said. I hope there is an actual RVM PRO that comes out eventually.
Your guess 5:45 is pretty spot on. Razer made this mouse to stock on at the behest of retailers, who did not want a Razer Viper Mini wireless. That's why the Viper Mini Signature Edition is a Razer webstore exclusive.
No, it's because the RVM SE is very difficult to make and they produce it in small quantities, and it's also an enthusiast mouse at almost $300 that no normal sane person would buy. A regular RVM Pro at $149 would sell very well in retail.
@@xblur17 Other way around: the material and RND cost was given free rein and made at any cost after it was confirmed to be a Razer Web store only product because they wouldn't have to worry and retailers handling stock.
A regular RVM Pro would have 0 retailers interested. Would it have sold well on the Razer Web store? Most likely. But are we going to get it? Nope. Viper Mini Signature Edition was given approval instead.
Still, not worth the price
I dont think Razer anticipated the amount of people who wanted the signature edition. So in my opinion they are just trying to milk the signature edition because of the high price tag for as long as possible. This isnt what their audience wanted and they know it.
Razer hates its own customers. Know that
The Razer Cobra (wired) is what I am looking for. I have the Viper Mini and always wanted it to be just a little bigger. Also the left button on the Viper Mini is loose after some time.. I hope Razer fixed that on the Cobra.
This is weird but I like the viper v2 shape but I like heavier mice and that are smaller, so this is kinda what I wanted, and I use Bluetooth on laptops
What's the charging time?
Will u be doing a review on the drunkdeer A75?
Waiting for bobs weight reduction how low can it go
I'm 100% waiting for a viper mini ultimate. I usually like what Razer is up to but this was indeed the fattest L they have taken in a long while.
The razer reps over on reddit have confirmed that was the last of the viper lineup. I dont think we're gonna be seeing a viper mini ultimate, at least not for a couple years.
imo, this is just the viper mini ultimate with a "Pro" label. They better make a Cobra Pro v2
You can keep waiting, it won't happen. They confirmed this is the last we'll see of the Viper Mini shape.
Honestly either a viper mini ultimate , or I’ll take a COBRA V2 PRO
Have you tried the ENDGAME GEAR EM-C mousepad? man its amazing, I like it better than all my artisans and my LGG Saturn Pro. Best packaging I've come across too.
Absolutely nothing went wrong with this. It’s just the mouse snobs expecting this to be the wireless viper mini whereas it is an upgraded Viper Ultimate.
It’s a perfectly fine mouse, if you prefer light weight over rgb just get the v2 pro. Seen so many crying over this one, just don’t buy it if you want a wireless viper mini ffs.
I honestly just got these and I’m loving it better than my lg g pro. It’s smaller and my favorite part are the side rubber grips.
Is it really so weird to ask for such mouse with extra bluetooth connection option? I work from home and I would like to use the same mouse and switch between work (BT) and game (Wireless) PCs. So it is ME that was asking for this mouse 😄
Feel like this was to replace the basilisk the cheapest one they had with that bluetooth on board for whatever reason
ty, is the shape feel same as viper mini ?
yeah same shape and feel.
very frustrating..we’ve been asking for the mini ultimate for years and Razer gives us this?! 😅
Ya they gave us the cobruh instead
this mouse is actually not an L...atleast for me. I've used every mouse from the DA 3500-DAv3 pro, Logitech g303 (original), g403, g703, gpro wireless, Glorious model o, and o-. I liked the o- from glorious the most as far as the shape goes but weight wise I prefer medium weight like the g303 and g703 from logitech. I was on the deathadder v3 and was absolutely hating the new deathadder shape and the poor build quality so when I saw the cobra pro leak I was hyped and got it as soon as it came out with the pro dock. Everyone wants to call it an L but some people can't play well with very light weight mice with poor build quality.
I am looking for a mouse about this weight. Mid to high 70s. Have a Glorious Model D currently. Too light. Click issues. Thinking of going ambidextrous and hybrid between finger/claw. How does it feel nowadays? Would you recommend it?
@ Highly recommend now since corepads released the oem skates for it
@ As for shape it's original model o- exact it feels great tbh build quality is very good on the cobra pro because they didn't do weight reduction like crazy and I can still use all grip styles on it.
just tried this in a tech shop and as showed at 5:09 it is actually a viper mini pro with rgb and it doesn't feel heavy due to the shape and compact design I honestly think of giving that a chance I don't understand why people didn't like that
If this mouse didn't have rgb and came with viper mini pro name probably the reaction would be different even with the same 77g weight
Mouse community has been brainwashed about mouse weight. They are all hard stuck golds that think buying a new mouse every month will make then better 😂
2:48 I like your content, but how can you review a product and not know how it works, the profile button is color coded (led) based on the profiles in synapse, so you can easily tell which is which
We need to revive this topic
i want razer viper mini..with update optical switch..new sensor..please razer..
take out the rgb, take out the docking charge option and you have a pretty good mouse. the weight would surely drop significantly, the mouse performs top tier due to the said (in video) internals. I have the mouse and love it, it performs great, but I'm 100% with you rgb was the dumbest move razer made with this mouse, not only because the pro aesthetics (the mouse is called "pro") but also the additional and really not wanted weight that comes with it. also it's a dumb solution for a pro mice to be charged in a dock... The price of the mice is intended for pros, the rgb and charging system is intended to rgb lovers and to those who search a mid-range/tier mouse - not what they get at this price, although many will find the mouse surprising because of its performance (focus 30dpi, optical switches, top notch tech). What was razer thinking? I guess this was meant to replace the viper mini in a pro signature but razer tried to please all in a niche of niches, and they ended pleasing almost no one, it backfired ugly. Pros were mad (rgb, weight, pre installed rubber side grips), not pros were also mad (overpriced for a niche I don't even understand if exists, due to specs like the sensor and switches which overpriced this hybrid mouse). Razer, in general, absolute failure. And I do think razer makes the best mice at the present time, as logitech is still on the 20th century with their shells (they launched recently the hero 2 or I would had sensors and also switches which they went with a combination of optical + mechanic), benq are also outdated and expensive, leaving some space for good surprises like some lines of lamzu, vaxee, endgame gear and few, few others. Cheers.
I like the profile button on the bottom its just like with the zowie mices so you dont need the shit ahh razer software or rather only once to update the profiles on the mouse, everything else you said I totally agree with
Hey Brandon, got myself a Razer Cobra wired and I'm with you on why Razer put this out as opposed to keeping the Viper Mini. It feels like a Viper Mini and weighs the same. I guess Razer got bored and wanted to put something out to get clicks. BOY! did they ever. I'm glad I got it but NO WAY am I getting the wireless version. I guess my Viper Mini just became a keepsake. 🤣I want to thank you for the Viper V3 Hyperspeed review, I DEF want to get that.
I’ve been saying since this release that this is the viper mini ultimate. If they want to give the viper mini it’s own product, (the “cobra”), then that is fine. But this should have been named the cobra ultimate… and they need to release a cobra pro now. Make it lightweight and no RGB.. just seems like a complete miss to me
what happened to the lamzu 4k video?
Redoing the video
i'm still waiting for a Viper Mini V2 8KHz Wired for less than $65, they made the Deathadder V3 8KHz wired so i know for a fact they could make such a mouse. Razer is dropping the ball BADLY.
I really want to know what razer was smoking when they thought on making this mouse
I used the mouse. It was very light. It was very smooth. It was unfortunately too small, overall, for my hand. That was the only reason I returned it. Actually using the mouse is not terrible. The reviews are blowing it out of proportion.
Personally like this mouse because I’m not trying to go eSports elite for anything, so the weight addition doesn’t affect me. I like having the RGB so it syncs with all my other RGB devices like my keyboard, headset and computer. Also, this actually has Bluetooth unlike the viper and deathadder, so I can use it with my laptop too.
I do agree that the back heaviness is bad, it should be balanced. Also the grips are not good
Personally, I stopped buying Razer a few years ago after repeated hardware failures with their products, I cant even name how many Mice I went through until I finally switched over to Logitech and Zowie
They should release a Viper Mini, maybe with a tiny RGB bling bling, scrollwheel maybe and 2k polling rate. And a second Viper Mini "Pro" no RGB and 4k. And boom bada bing profit and stocks go up like a rocket
That would deter people from their ridiculous signature edition. This was clearly a ploy to push people toward their ripoff $300 mouse. What bs
It'll probably still sell. Roccat still pumps out their heavy, high latency, RGB filled mice.
But Razer has the advantage of having high end wireless performance.
Yo BT when is the Camry review!? Lol
Lmao
The more accurate description would be: too much, too late (too expensive) :)
This is what happens when you oversaturated your catalogue with only slight tweak every new release. Once the actual noteworthy upgrade stops, next on the line is just dull and uninspiring.
Razer shot themselves on the foot when they decided to release the new Deathadder. In fact, everything after Viper Ultimate was nothing more than monopoly play, which will eventually turn against themselves in the long run because mice aren't that expendable like other electronics.
TH-cam reccomends me this after i already purchased this mice, feels bad man xD
Just wait for the mm712 pro even the wired version will be better
Razer viper mini with those removable grips were peak. If Razer ever wants some good will back with the mouse community (bigger than what you think Razer!) you know what to do. It’s super simple. As for now, I’ve moved on from Razer and see no reason to return to the brand any time soon.
Who is the customer for this product, over the rest of their own line of mice. I haven't been able to figure this out since the drop of the mouse. It's the most confusing mouse to be released for a long time. Basilisk owners won't buy it, fps players are pissed off with it, viper ultimate is an easy recommend over it for the price, even with a charging dock. I don't know who pays this money for this mouse?
That’s why i prefer reviews from Rocket Jump Ninja, who unfortunately did not review this, but is plain and objective. Where you go to the other extreme and have absolutely nothing positive to mention, making your judgement unobjective and probably more like to come across interesting so your video gets more views.
The vast majority of casual gamers do prefer the RGB at least, and it’s roughly the same mouse as the Viper Mini, so wtf? It’s not that different.
Also the ultra light weight is really exagurated, some weight to the mouse better then holding an egg shell to me.
Bro u just don’t get it do you. There’s no helping people like you
@@LDixonFPS Well you missed my point so YOU don’t get it.
I emphasize that this reviewer is not objective but goes on the extreme opposite end.
That’s a rational statement you don’t understand.
Come up with arguments instead of just venting your emotions
The original viper mini is now selling for £50 in the UK, I got mine 2 years ago for £30. Funking Razer. Boycott time
Every decision Razer made related to Viper mini is big L all the way. I understand it’s a marketing but we don’t feel nothing but they are trying to get every penny from us. Cobra? What a joke.
Reasons I want the Cobra Pro
1. Bluetooth
2. RGB
3. Idk
my lady want a lightweight cobra pro, no more comments
Everyone is hating on it for being a rip off but I see it differently. It's a rip off but it has all those features they say aren't pro and I think that's the idea. They made a knock off with rgb for the ones who still want pro stuff but with the rgb and stuff if that makes sense I love rgb and the underglow on this is rlly nice only on sale tho I'm getting mine for 90. I have a g502 wirless and the rgb is mid I want more idc abt battery I got a wirless charger for it but this one dock is like 70 it's wack
This is as bad as the Blackwidow v3 mini that was $199 keyboard with ABS keycaps with some dumb excuse why they used ABS over PBT.
"Why would someone buy this? For these 2 extra buttons?"""" Yes. Exactly for that resson.
razer can make A LOT of money and we WILL MAKE US HAPPI if they just put viper v2 prO internals in a viper mini shell but just wont...
This has the viper mini shape you've all been crying for.
Are you high? The shape maybe, but it is like holding a brick, has stupid rgb no one wants… it is a slap in the face
@@mikerzisu9508 he literally asked for that shape and then complained about the shape in the video. Some people are weirdos and prefer rgb over a light mouse or want a heavier one. Not everone plays highly competetive games.
@philipp594 you are missing the point. To me it is obvious what they are doing here. They want people to buy a $300 sig edition. They could have easily made a wireless viper mini shape with a much lower weight, updated internals, etc. But instead made out of plastic instead of magnesium to get that price down. They could sell it for $120 and people would eat it up in a heartbeat. But they release this thing instead.. it is almost like they went out of their way to make it not what people wanted to push people into buying the sig edition which is completely bs. Particularly around the weight and the rgb. No one wants rgb in 2023, and the weight is honestly ridiculous when nearly all small mice are being released at lower than 60g
@@mikerzisu9508 I don't think so, yes the lighter version is not a priority because they already made the sig. but they didn't pick the viper mini for their first magnesium mouse for no reason. It's their least popular shape and it's small enoughj that it will steel seem super light on paper, even tho plastic can easily be lighter than magnesium. But no one would buy the damn thing if you could read that from the spec sheet.
It's not that they made the sig to rip people of that like the shape. It was the best model to choose for it.
But obv. they don't want to make their "halo" mouse look bad now.
@philipp594 I don't know man. If they made a 4k wireless viper mini pro that is 50g or less, plastic, no rgb with updated sensor and latest optical switches I think that thing would sell huge. The viper mini is an extremely popular shape, mini mice in general are very popular currently
100% resounding 'what the hell is this' and who asked is in motion.
It's a crime to waste such a cool name like Razer Cobra in this mouse
they need to make a v2 pro version of this brick and deny this shit ever existed😂
not first.... good video BT
Its a solid mouse, just advertised to the wrong market.
Can’t take seriously anyone that actually keeps razer synapse installed. The button to change profile is there because they know the software is absolute garbage
Who needs Bluetooth on a gaming mouse?
Razer just failed with this one.
Orochi V2 better choice than this....
"Those nerds don't know anything. Let's get back to our RGB roots. Casuals don't care about weight." - Razer prolly 🤡
They didnt care enough
razer catering to casuals on this. what's really confusing about this is the name, and the 4k polling. should have been cobra ultimate, then save the cobra pro for a proper pro. no one who buys this mouse cares about 4k. razer just being a typical gaming company.
first L ? lol
For a Cobra, this is incredibly weak and tame.
not first L lmao
Razer Cobra Pro = L, Razer Cobra Wired = Super W , they fixed LOD, new sensor (50dpi increments), 3g lighter, fills out the hand more, 1x extra mouse feet around sensor (virgin PFTE), gen3 switches. all for 35-40 usd
Biggest disappointed of the decade!
There are different types of Pros. I'm a software developer, and I'll be happy to take that mouse off your hands if you don't want it. Give me a week or two of using it and I'll give feedback you can use to make another video... as long as I get to keep the mouse. :)
lamzu maya my last hope
Razer Cobra Pro is boring to me.
Ah yes, the switch of a button.
As much as a disappointment this mouse is for FPS players, this review hit it in all the wrong places.
How so?
Can you please inform me on the customer for this product, over the rest of their own line of mice. I haven't been able to figure this out since the drop of the mouse. It's the most confusing mouse to be released for a long time. Basilisk owners won't buy it, fps players are pissed off with it, viper ultimate is an easy recommend over it for the price, even with a charging dock. I don't know who pays this money for this mouse?
@scotty_teee4226 Viper ultimate is outdated, and isn't sold by Razer anymore. Its literally the average person who will buy this. One who values RGB and other add ons and perhaps isn't too researched into mice. You're acting like we make up the majority of the mice market. Lol, don't be daft.
@klaidasrunele the viper ultimate is still available, is it not? Who is paying double for this mouse, over the ultimate? Considering that it looks like the same mouse, to the average consumer. I know it's not for the fps players but I still don't see where it fits with the average consumer either
@scotty_teee4226 A lot of people lol. Why do people buy this years laptops over last years despite them almost being identical? Silly take. Doesn't matter. The mouse is objectively and upgrade (bar weight but most people don't care anyways), despite it not really making much of a difference in terms on in game performance. There will be those who buy one or the other but viper ultimate stock will run out eventually anyways.
Its sad because im a big fan of the feature packed basilisk v3 pro so if they made a cobra pro with a sniper button and a more balanced weight i wouldve been the first one to buy it
It seems strange to me that they put so much personal feeling in the face of their disappointment with this mouse because their expectations were different.
1. 75-90g is not a negative in a mouse, many of us like that weight range.
2. Light zones is something that many of us miss, don't you see that there are PC hardware with RGB and WITHOUT RGB? This mouse is something like that, it's our option, if you don't like it, it doesn't mean it's something negative. OPTIONS its a positive.
3. I love hearing that RandomFrankp and a couple of other youtubers said that there is really nothing wrong with the performance of this mouse, it means that it is a good mouse itself!.
4. I really love RAZER its giving you the option of different bundles, because guess what, most of us don't care about 4k poling rate, or a special dock. OPTIONS, again, are AWESOME.
5. the shape, materials, its wireless, nice software, RGB, great sensor. No, RAZER its not going backwards because you guys wanted the mini-viper, its a great mouse dudes. chill!!
Seriously, please everyone that hates this thing, send me yours! I seem to be the only person on this planet who has a grip style that matches this mouse /shrug. Granted, that doesn't make it a great mouse, but MAN it's a great mouse for me :D
😂😂😂
Bro, this is the exact shell of the viper mini. You just sound like a poor dude begging for a free mouse at this point
Nc
Me, who bought one just because I figured they wouldn’t make a Viper mini wireless: 🥹
Aye if it works it works haha. Don’t want to shame the people that got it. This is just my opinion.