It is insane how many times Razer has trolled people that just want a viper mini wireless that doesn’t have a weird gimmick behind it, be it this re branded name at 77 grams or the cheese grater 400 dollar version lol
@@Shallo lol i was suprised too i didnt even know about it until I got it and looked it up, I was rocking a g pro I had from 2016 lol my aunt got it for me as a gift she tends to direard prices when she buys gifts must have head me complaining that my gpro was batter and need to replace but never expected mini se I asked her why she chose it she said her neighbors son recommended it I truly owe him one
I recently bought AOC GM530 because it was on sale for 20.99 euros. Great mouse with kailh switches (80M clicks) and Pixart 3389. For that price it doesn't have competition.
All i needed and wanted was a viper mini wireless with orochi v2 internals. Its so simple and they give me this feature packed abomination. Razer misseed the mark for so many years. The vioer mini was a budget king and only needed to be wireless. I remember getting a viper mini back in 2019 and waited until 2023 for this. Unfortunately, with all that time i am gaming less now and have found other products that do a better job. So i wont be getting this mouse
omg yes i was just thinking the same. viper mini combined with orochi v2 + make it wireless would definitely be a hit for them but they just dont get it
I agree with what you said at 6:37. Cobra is more of a feature mouse, while the Viper series is more about performance. I also think they're different, so I really hope Razer also thinks that cause I really want that wireless viper mini lol
What is confusing to me is how razer always claimed that the viper mini isnt really selling outside the enthusiast buyers and proceeds to disregard all the feedback the most prominent clientele of the mouse has been giving to cater to people who werent interested in this type of product to begin with. Especially if they chose the route of putting it in line with the VV2 qs many passed on the viper mini for its lower end internals. I dont believe the VMSE would suffer much aswell as all the drops sell out instantly and ith more of a collectors item with this drop model
The Techne, if you haven't, I seriously suggest trying out the Glorious Model D- wired version from 2018. I have the V3 in front of me right now but the D- is something truly special in the hand, plus the weight and the click feel is arguably superior. I don't know how it flew over so many peoples heads.
i figured out like 10 cent fix to the side flex on the v3 pro - just hold the mouse in one hand flex it in and then take a paperclip and dip it into some "tacky glue" and then run that glue down the seam of the bottom of the mouse at the crease - both sides if needed and wipe with a paper towel the excess each time just make sure it gets in that crack, hold the mouse and repeat 3 more time apply and wipe. hole for like 1 or 2 min after the last apply. never had creak again and tacky glue i think more just fills the small tolerance gap don't even need to open it up
Same...Low-key could easily rock this mouse, I'm in to competitive shooters and this doesn't seem as bad an idea for Razer to release something like this!
I had 0 problems with my DAv3. It was such a good mouse. I just couldn't get used to the shape. Even the viper isn't for me. The only mouse I've ever truly felt fits my hand like a glove is all the Roccat Kones.
Great points. But I think I know what happened. Razer messed up on the naming and should do a realignment. Sorry, long read: The Viper mini (61g) came out in 2020. It's very CLOSE to the Cobra, but it's gloss stripe and button DNA makes it a Viper. Look at the two main buttons and location of the gloss stripe. The Viper line = Frown. The Cobra line = smiling. Otherwise, their shapes are nearly identical. Let's Fast Forward... OCT 2021, the BASILISK V3 (wired) = $60. Aug 2022, BASILISK V3 Pro (wireless) = $160. (This is my mouse) MAR 2023, BASILISK V3 x HyperSpeed = $70 (Wireless with AA battery (short life compared to Logitech. June 2023 Cobra = $40 (wired) (58g) June 2023 Cobra Pro = $130~170 (77g) depending on puck/charging/hyperPolling. The Viper Mini is heavier with only one RGB element and cost more when compared to the Wired Cobra... the Viper Mini was retired. Is there a need for the Viper line to continue or become more "ultra lightweight"?
Man honestly I would love this if it were bigger or the same size as the deathadder or the viper. But overall great video Techne! Would love to see more size comparisons of mice 😂
Don’t know how you didn’t talk about the fact that they fixed the Lift off distance issues from the viper mini, I could never tell anyone to buy the viper mini after using the cobra.
The Cobra is Viper mini Ultimate. I'd wager they're gonna release a lightweight fps focused version. BUT people tend to miss the fact that most people do not care about hyper FPS focused mice, just because that's the focus from youtubers.
Slightly different button shape. Some people will prefer one over the other. My choice of mice can be decided on a shape. The Logitech master MX 2s vs Mx 3s is radical, and one of the reasons I switched to Razer.
Is the viper mini discontinued bc I can’t find it in stock from razor or amazon. I’ve been using the same viper mini for 2.5 years. It got a crack in the shell and the side buttons r shaking. If not I guess I’ll just go for the wired version of the viper cobra
the viper mini deserves its own name, not the name of another mouse slapped with a mini at the end! i love viper mini shape and couldn't have asked for a better product, the fact it's not 40 grams is even better because now i know it has a solid build! bought it as soon as i saw your video lol i've waited so long for a wireless viper mini and the cobra now is my new mouse :)
Techne, You know as well RAZER is best known for that sweeeeet RGB and I agree that they need to make a deathadder RGB but with out that hockey puck. To me that adds that weight and that high $$$$$. Like give me a solid product that has RGB, new switches and heck add that polling rate (which does noting for me since I play BFF2042) and make it a competitive price you know. GREATTTT video by that way always enjoy your reviews on products. Keep it STINKING COZY like always =)
There are so many solid lightweight mice out there that are wireless and feel amazing. It sounds like you disagree with that. My fantech aria is made so well and still feels great even after playing thousands of hours on it. Just got the Vaxee xe wireless too and that thing is a tank.
There's a huge market just waving their dollar bills at Razers face, begging them to just take out the cable on the Viper mini... it's beyond comical that Razer is either not taking the hint, or doesn't care.
Techne, could you upload a video with your experience gaming with the Razer Moray? Like the one you made playing Halo Infinite with the Leviathan v2 Pro. Thanks and blessings.
can you confirm what version the bluetooth connection uses? im surprised razer hides it behind a very generic "bluetooth" tag in the specs and manual unlike previous models. there are still bluetooth users like me who use HyperSpeed for home gaming and the bluetooth connection for office work. the version matters!
Thanks for the review. This mouse confuses me, why make another mouse that's shaped like the Viper but heavier? The only thing that comes to my mind when I look at this mouse was a G.I. Joe Cobra trooper in Black and RGB holding up the mouse yelling "Cobraaa!" with a Razer logo on their helmet instead of the Cobra logo.
How does the cobra pro feel in the hand compared to the Orochi v2? I got small hands so the Orochi v2 has become my main but always looking to try new stuff.
not apple to apple but i own both the orochi v2 and the viper mini (old wired one) and they both fit my hand very well. I have small hands i can palm grip both of them
The Cobra line doesn't seem bad, it just seems unnecessary. If Razer would've just released their Viper V2 Mini with RGB and a Mini Pro without it, everyone would've been happier with those.
Wanted to ask if the hyperx cloud ps and cloud ii are just the same regardless the 7.5 surr sound, also what do u think should i go for razer kraken x, G335, HyperX cloud stinger core 2 or HyperX cloud ps
They made a mix between a Vuoer and Basilisk ....bur having both i dont thik i will buy this one even tho the weight reduction is welcome for every day use ....nice review !!
I just want a high end wired version of the rvm just like on the dav3 wired why cant razer do that they haven’t had a high end small wired mouse yet. I really hope they make a rvm v3 wired 8khz down the line. Still going to buy the cobra wired tho
It's a waste of plastic imo. Now I'm not saying everything needs to be lightweight I personally main the EC2-CW but however nobody really wants a RGB on a wireless mouse and also the fact that it's not 4k compatible is a wasted potential for the charging dock. I'm actually wanting to see if someone can make a lightweight 4k mouse that has a charging dock.
LETS GO!! Celebrate! Finally razer releases the viper min.. cobra? Well it’s just the name it’s still a light weight mini pro though right? 76g… What is razer doing? I’m surprised it isn’t green. Just give the people the viper mini pro… then you can release all the weird mice that don’t fit any where in the market
Also I feel like it should be the Cobra Ultimate.. then thy could have came out with a Cobra Pro.. light weight and no RGB.. let me know where you want to send my commission Razer
Razer has needed to update their "speedflex" cable ever since its' existence honestly. The first Pulsefire Haste cable is miles better. That speedflex cable on the actual Viper Mini is a joke even in a razer bungee and idk how people can even use that mouse. The cable may as well weigh more than the mouse itself.
Razer getting rid of the dpi button on the top of the viper mini wireless along with crazy price tag really ruined all the hype I had for this mouse but this one looks like the mouse I've been waiting for
The Viper has the same sideflex that you mention on your dav3, not sure if you haven't used it enough or got a lucky copy, but trust me it does. Two copys of the v2 pro have had it for me.
I guess it's a copy to copy difference because on my copy, I have no flex at all and I've been using it since its release. My main click on the other hand grind with the plastic below but you have to push it really hard and move your mouse to notice it. At least I don't notice it when spraying in game.
@@fool3950 Yea probably, mine was getting so bad that even the lightest press with your finger to the left side would make it make a audible noise. Never seen that before on a mouse.
I don't have a problem with this mouse per se, Razer is a for profit company and I'm sure this release is based on market research for what will make them the most money. In fact, I was a little surprised they actually made the Viper v2 Pro and Deathadder v3 Pro, two mice that are truly pro grade. My only issue with the Cobra is the mixed signalling behind the branding. It's clearly not "pro" in the sense that a VV2 Pro is pro or a DAV3 Pro. It's obvious they just threw a bunch of features and keywords together to maximize their bottom line. It's also strange given the context of enthusiasts wanting a Viper Mini Pro due to it being almost a clone of the Viper Mini. If this is the new definition of pro, what will mice like the VV2 Pro and DAV3 Pro be called in the future? I guess they could brand those as esports. It will be bizarre for their pricing scheme though if those products end up being more expensive than the "pro" line, since they will have less features. If you think about it, it's weird that this "pro" release is cheaper than their other pro releases with the same spec, but overall less features.
They will eventually release a Razer Viper Mini Wireless down the line, only hidden behind the Cobra lineup. They need to make first generations, aka fodder, to gain reputation and stuff. Consumers see "Mini" and think "cheap, worse than the original", so that's why I think they're just releasing fodder mice right now to gain reputation and release a "Razer Cobra V2 Pro" down the line that has literally the same exact shape as the Viper Mini, much less weight, and (hopefully) much less pricey. Going off the past, the Viper Ultimate retailed for 150$, and the Viper V2 Pro did aswell. Going off the past aswell, the Mini went from 63g to 49g (14g total) and other mice reduced by an average of around 14-15g So in the future we're probably gonna have a Razer Cobra V2 Pro, same shape as RVM, 130$, same sensor, same good skates, same buttons, 40-43g. Razer most likely doesn't wanna spearhead Viper Mini Signature Edition sales, so right now they're just preparing for the future by moving away from "Mini" brand name so people don't think it's a cheap product. Bad mouse, yes, but people need to trust the process. You don't need to buy every single mouse that releases
@@zuckoVAL the thing is they signalled to the enthusiast community they would release a "regular" RVM Pro, but then went for a Finalmouse style release with the RVMSE. I think people are still reacting to that. Also some enthusiasts will remember this moving forward and not support Razer as much. Not that it will affect Razer's bottom line, but it's clear what their priorities are.
My Viper V2 pro has a creak / flex on the left side. Its unfortunate cause i like the mouse but the subtle flex is just so distracting and disappointing for an otherwise nice mouse. Going to give the Cobra Pro a go.
People have been crying for the Viper Mini Ultimate and they finally got it. Similar weight as the VPU in the same size as the VPM. 75g with the wireless, man. Really should invest in a bungee huh.
i don't care too much about wheight, its a lot of marketing... everything sub 80g is totally fine for me... (larger mouses like basilisk can also be heavier and its totally fine). Its a lot of marketing with the wheight tbh.... i like the cobra in general, however the wheight ofc has to do with the features.... so considering all the PRO mice from razer were about getting rid of some features to put some wheight down its kinda strange to name the cobra "pro".... but it is what it is... I hope they will release a cobra without the rgb gimmicks, because i dont need and don't want them and also in mercury white or color variants, as i dont like black mices within my setup.... Will see, its an interesting product in terms of shape for me, just not there yet to pull the trigger ;)
to me, cobra seems like a godsend. why? it has 2 connectivity. in my home setup (mainly hybrid gaming/coding). cobra will suit this using 2.4GHz connection (together with deathstalker v2 pro wireless). in other hand, i have my work laptop from my company. when return home, i'll use the setup above but using the bluetooth connection for this laptop. whenever there's needs connection i can switch between them on the fly. i think this is the best use case at least for me. keeping only 1 device software only, in this case synapse, maybe set an onboard profile so i can delete that damn synapse. i left my work keyboard/mouse at office haha. having said that, my current setup is using g913 tkl and g603 (same use cases). hope this helps.
I would be wary of the wired cobra’s reliability and QC past the warranty period as it has the same internals as that viper mini and the viper minis scroll wheel is known for crapping the bed like clock work after 2 months to a year of use.
yo techne, did you not check up on the razer deathadder faker edition? i think they got rid of the side flex there and it has the same surface as the wired one.
Heavy is also something that has to be seen in relation to the mouse. This is a small mouse, and yes 77g on that size is heavy AF! Also there are already enough "feature packed" mice in all kinds of shapes for lower prices on the market. We don't need more "leet gamer rgb" bullshit. What we need is simply a viper mini shell with a viper v2 pro inside. Big L razer. Really big L.
I hate to say it cause razer has been killing it with pretty much everything. But I just feel like the Cobra Pro is just a dead on arrival product. The wired version being like 6 grams lighter and with the gen3 switches is the best thing that came out of this release tbh.
A very strange release, although I expected something like this we would get instead of Viper Mini Ultimate/Hyperspeed and that's why I bought another extra Orochi v2
I very much prefer a slightly heavier mouse and i love that there's all around RGB. i think mice reviewers should not base how good a mouse is just being lightweight. Glad that there's balance in your evaluation, Techne!
It is insane how many times Razer has trolled people that just want a viper mini wireless that doesn’t have a weird gimmick behind it, be it this re branded name at 77 grams or the cheese grater 400 dollar version lol
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got the mini se as a gift and it's been my go to ngl i don't defend the price but its a great mouse
@@N1xko how is there someone out there in the world willing to gift a mini se
@@Shallo lol i was suprised too i didnt even know about it until I got it and looked it up, I was rocking a g pro I had from 2016 lol my aunt got it for me as a gift she tends to direard prices when she buys gifts must have head me complaining that my gpro was batter and need to replace but never expected mini se I asked her why she chose it she said her neighbors son recommended it I truly owe him one
@@N1xko wow damn dude you're so lucky to get that for you gift :O
I recently bought AOC GM530 because it was on sale for 20.99 euros. Great mouse with kailh switches (80M clicks) and Pixart 3389. For that price it doesn't have competition.
All i needed and wanted was a viper mini wireless with orochi v2 internals. Its so simple and they give me this feature packed abomination.
Razer misseed the mark for so many years. The vioer mini was a budget king and only needed to be wireless. I remember getting a viper mini back in 2019 and waited until 2023 for this. Unfortunately, with all that time i am gaming less now and have found other products that do a better job. So i wont be getting this mouse
omg yes i was just thinking the same. viper mini combined with orochi v2 + make it wireless would definitely be a hit for them but they just dont get it
I agree with what you said at 6:37. Cobra is more of a feature mouse, while the Viper series is more about performance. I also think they're different, so I really hope Razer also thinks that cause I really want that wireless viper mini lol
the boys is the best tv show ever made and yeah i agree with this statement.
What is confusing to me is how razer always claimed that the viper mini isnt really selling outside the enthusiast buyers and proceeds to disregard all the feedback the most prominent clientele of the mouse has been giving to cater to people who werent interested in this type of product to begin with. Especially if they chose the route of putting it in line with the VV2 qs many passed on the viper mini for its lower end internals. I dont believe the VMSE would suffer much aswell as all the drops sell out instantly and ith more of a collectors item with this drop model
Great review! I would take the cobra pro over my deathadder v3 pro anyday. The DAV3 side flex is soooooo freaking annoying….
Man I wish they would update it! 😢
@@TheTechneim not sure if its worth the upgrade, but supposedly the faker edition fixed some of the creaking issues, maybe try that model?
The Techne, if you haven't, I seriously suggest trying out the Glorious Model D- wired version from 2018. I have the V3 in front of me right now but the D- is something truly special in the hand, plus the weight and the click feel is arguably superior. I don't know how it flew over so many peoples heads.
The D- is really nice. But I do prefer a pinch bigger
quality control issues with the mice are the reason why it flew over their heads, they have some of the worst qc in terms of batches of mice
i figured out like 10 cent fix to the side flex on the v3 pro - just hold the mouse in one hand flex it in and then take a paperclip and dip it into some "tacky glue" and then run that glue down the seam of the bottom of the mouse at the crease - both sides if needed and wipe with a paper towel the excess each time just make sure it gets in that crack, hold the mouse and repeat 3 more time apply and wipe. hole for like 1 or 2 min after the last apply. never had creak again and tacky glue i think more just fills the small tolerance gap don't even need to open it up
This guy’s the most trustworthy gaming mice/keyboards/etc reviewer..
This man never failed me with his recommendations
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might actually be the perfect mouse for me since i love the basilisk v3 pro design but the viper v2 shape
Same...Low-key could easily rock this mouse, I'm in to competitive shooters and this doesn't seem as bad an idea for Razer to release something like this!
I don't even have a PC but I love watching your videos
Same
Thank u so much
I had 0 problems with my DAv3. It was such a good mouse. I just couldn't get used to the shape. Even the viper isn't for me. The only mouse I've ever truly felt fits my hand like a glove is all the Roccat Kones.
Love your comprehensive comparison and insight into this! Helps me with my consideration if I would like to get this or not 😃
Glad it was helpful!
@@TheTechneCan you do a short with all your tats and their meanings? I think they look cool. You keep ignoring me😢
@@jcap8391lol, that would be a fun conversation, but not a bad video fit for my channel.
Great points. But I think I know what happened. Razer messed up on the naming and should do a realignment. Sorry, long read:
The Viper mini (61g) came out in 2020. It's very CLOSE to the Cobra, but it's gloss stripe and button DNA makes it a Viper. Look at the two main buttons and location of the gloss stripe.
The Viper line = Frown. The Cobra line = smiling. Otherwise, their shapes are nearly identical.
Let's Fast Forward...
OCT 2021, the BASILISK V3 (wired) = $60.
Aug 2022, BASILISK V3 Pro (wireless) = $160. (This is my mouse)
MAR 2023, BASILISK V3 x HyperSpeed = $70 (Wireless with AA battery (short life compared to Logitech.
June 2023 Cobra = $40 (wired) (58g)
June 2023 Cobra Pro = $130~170 (77g) depending on puck/charging/hyperPolling.
The Viper Mini is heavier with only one RGB element and cost more when compared to the Wired Cobra... the Viper Mini was retired.
Is there a need for the Viper line to continue or become more "ultra lightweight"?
Man honestly I would love this if it were bigger or the same size as the deathadder or the viper. But overall great video Techne! Would love to see more size comparisons of mice 😂
Don’t know how you didn’t talk about the fact that they fixed the Lift off distance issues from the viper mini, I could never tell anyone to buy the viper mini after using the cobra.
Great review. Love your channel and your honest reviews.
Thanks man
I would have loved to have seen the Cobra to be a size between the mini and the full size one.
Best, most level headed review on this product.
Rival 3 is too small for my hands, I'm thinking of buying a Cobra, what do you think?
The Cobra is Viper mini Ultimate.
I'd wager they're gonna release a lightweight fps focused version.
BUT people tend to miss the fact that most people do not care about hyper FPS focused mice, just because that's the focus from youtubers.
Slightly different button shape. Some people will prefer one over the other. My choice of mice can be decided on a shape. The Logitech master MX 2s vs Mx 3s is radical, and one of the reasons I switched to Razer.
I personally hope this isnt the final version of the "viper mini wireless"
Razer told me it’s not 👍
@@TheTechne Nice to have a confirmation, more waiting then.
@@TheTechne So nothing on the viper mini wireless?
@@JTP1982 probably not, just more waiting
Do you feel like they should have just updated the viper mini with a wireless and wired and not try to be extra fancy??
this is just slap in the face for people who have been asking viper mini v2 wireless for a long time.
Is the viper mini discontinued bc I can’t find it in stock from razor or amazon. I’ve been using the same viper mini for 2.5 years. It got a crack in the shell and the side buttons r shaking. If not I guess I’ll just go for the wired version of the viper cobra
They just want to not cannibalise sales of the Viper Signature edition I guess....
the viper mini deserves its own name, not the name of another mouse slapped with a mini at the end! i love viper mini shape and couldn't have asked for a better product, the fact it's not 40 grams is even better because now i know it has a solid build! bought it as soon as i saw your video lol i've waited so long for a wireless viper mini and the cobra now is my new mouse :)
You say you can get the Viper mini for $20 or less, but that's just simply not true? They've been discontinued fully for what I assume is this mouse.
Oh dang really! Sneaky sneaky
For me they renamed the viper mini for cobra, probably no new versions of viper mini will come out. Great AND detail review
Techne, You know as well RAZER is best known for that sweeeeet RGB and I agree that they need to make a deathadder RGB but with out that hockey puck. To me that adds that weight and that high $$$$$. Like give me a solid product that has RGB, new switches and heck add that polling rate (which does noting for me since I play BFF2042) and make it a competitive price you know. GREATTTT video by that way always enjoy your reviews on products. Keep it STINKING COZY like always =)
How was this not called the Viper Ultimate V2 Mini?
Hey man i have an question should i get the corsair hs80 or razer blackshark v2 pro 2023 for gaming perfect content keep it up.
There are so many solid lightweight mice out there that are wireless and feel amazing. It sounds like you disagree with that. My fantech aria is made so well and still feels great even after playing thousands of hours on it. Just got the Vaxee xe wireless too and that thing is a tank.
There's a huge market just waving their dollar bills at Razers face, begging them to just take out the cable on the Viper mini... it's beyond comical that Razer is either not taking the hint, or doesn't care.
Techne, could you upload a video with your experience gaming with the Razer Moray? Like the one you made playing Halo Infinite with the Leviathan v2 Pro. Thanks and blessings.
i think the click for the wired one is actually quieter since its lower pitch
can you confirm what version the bluetooth connection uses? im surprised razer hides it behind a very generic "bluetooth" tag in the specs and manual unlike previous models. there are still bluetooth users like me who use HyperSpeed for home gaming and the bluetooth connection for office work. the version matters!
Thanks for the review. This mouse confuses me, why make another mouse that's shaped like the Viper but heavier? The only thing that comes to my mind when I look at this mouse was a G.I. Joe Cobra trooper in Black and RGB holding up the mouse yelling "Cobraaa!" with a Razer logo on their helmet instead of the Cobra logo.
How does the cobra pro feel in the hand compared to the Orochi v2? I got small hands so the Orochi v2 has become my main but always looking to try new stuff.
not apple to apple but i own both the orochi v2 and the viper mini (old wired one) and they both fit my hand very well. I have small hands i can palm grip both of them
@taejinkae thank you. i appreciate the input. i may look into the wireless cobra then.
The Cobra line doesn't seem bad, it just seems unnecessary. If Razer would've just released their Viper V2 Mini with RGB and a Mini Pro without it, everyone would've been happier with those.
All it needed was a different shape. ZA shape would have been awesome
Wanted to ask if the hyperx cloud ps and cloud ii are just the same regardless the 7.5 surr sound, also what do u think should i go for razer kraken x, G335, HyperX cloud stinger core 2 or HyperX cloud ps
The viper mini isnt one day shipping on amazon anymore i want it should i just get the cobra wired?
They made a mix between a Vuoer and Basilisk ....bur having both i dont thik i will buy this one even tho the weight reduction is welcome for every day use ....nice review !!
I just want a high end wired version of the rvm just like on the dav3 wired why cant razer do that they haven’t had a high end small wired mouse yet. I really hope they make a rvm v3 wired 8khz down the line. Still going to buy the cobra wired tho
The biggest blasphemy is why not Cobra in white??? 🤔
Great review btw!
Software razer ( Synapse ) forces me to avoid Razer products ..
So i bought razer cobra pro online should i cancel my order or keep it after watching this video i am confused i bought that mouse for fps games
It's a waste of plastic imo. Now I'm not saying everything needs to be lightweight I personally main the EC2-CW but however nobody really wants a RGB on a wireless mouse and also the fact that it's not 4k compatible is a wasted potential for the charging dock. I'm actually wanting to see if someone can make a lightweight 4k mouse that has a charging dock.
Ah a fellow Zowie lover 👍 now the pro cobra is 4k capable (with the added dongle or dock)
LETS GO!! Celebrate! Finally razer releases the viper min.. cobra? Well it’s just the name it’s still a light weight mini pro though right? 76g… What is razer doing? I’m surprised it isn’t green. Just give the people the viper mini pro… then you can release all the weird mice that don’t fit any where in the market
Also I feel like it should be the Cobra Ultimate.. then thy could have came out with a Cobra Pro.. light weight and no RGB.. let me know where you want to send my commission Razer
@@iSpenClol. Wait hold up, I want a cut 🤣
Razer has needed to update their "speedflex" cable ever since its' existence honestly. The first Pulsefire Haste cable is miles better. That speedflex cable on the actual Viper Mini is a joke even in a razer bungee and idk how people can even use that mouse. The cable may as well weigh more than the mouse itself.
Razer getting rid of the dpi button on the top of the viper mini wireless along with crazy price tag really ruined all the hype I had for this mouse but this one looks like the mouse I've been waiting for
Go techne!
The Viper has the same sideflex that you mention on your dav3, not sure if you haven't used it enough or got a lucky copy, but trust me it does. Two copys of the v2 pro have had it for me.
I guess it's a copy to copy difference because on my copy, I have no flex at all and I've been using it since its release. My main click on the other hand grind with the plastic below but you have to push it really hard and move your mouse to notice it. At least I don't notice it when spraying in game.
@@fool3950 Yea probably, mine was getting so bad that even the lightest press with your finger to the left side would make it make a audible noise. Never seen that before on a mouse.
To me seems a slight redesign to change the name. Even the sensor is the same between the wired Cobra and the Viper Mini.
I just want a good Viper Mini Wireless! 74g in 2023 is disappointing....
0:10 should have used white text color for the specs
I don't have a problem with this mouse per se, Razer is a for profit company and I'm sure this release is based on market research for what will make them the most money. In fact, I was a little surprised they actually made the Viper v2 Pro and Deathadder v3 Pro, two mice that are truly pro grade. My only issue with the Cobra is the mixed signalling behind the branding. It's clearly not "pro" in the sense that a VV2 Pro is pro or a DAV3 Pro. It's obvious they just threw a bunch of features and keywords together to maximize their bottom line. It's also strange given the context of enthusiasts wanting a Viper Mini Pro due to it being almost a clone of the Viper Mini. If this is the new definition of pro, what will mice like the VV2 Pro and DAV3 Pro be called in the future? I guess they could brand those as esports. It will be bizarre for their pricing scheme though if those products end up being more expensive than the "pro" line, since they will have less features. If you think about it, it's weird that this "pro" release is cheaper than their other pro releases with the same spec, but overall less features.
They will eventually release a Razer Viper Mini Wireless down the line, only hidden behind the Cobra lineup. They need to make first generations, aka fodder, to gain reputation and stuff. Consumers see "Mini" and think "cheap, worse than the original", so that's why I think they're just releasing fodder mice right now to gain reputation and release a "Razer Cobra V2 Pro" down the line that has literally the same exact shape as the Viper Mini, much less weight, and (hopefully) much less pricey.
Going off the past, the Viper Ultimate retailed for 150$, and the Viper V2 Pro did aswell. Going off the past aswell, the Mini went from 63g to 49g (14g total) and other mice reduced by an average of around 14-15g
So in the future we're probably gonna have a Razer Cobra V2 Pro, same shape as RVM, 130$, same sensor, same good skates, same buttons, 40-43g. Razer most likely doesn't wanna spearhead Viper Mini Signature Edition sales, so right now they're just preparing for the future by moving away from "Mini" brand name so people don't think it's a cheap product.
Bad mouse, yes, but people need to trust the process. You don't need to buy every single mouse that releases
@@zuckoVAL the thing is they signalled to the enthusiast community they would release a "regular" RVM Pro, but then went for a Finalmouse style release with the RVMSE. I think people are still reacting to that. Also some enthusiasts will remember this moving forward and not support Razer as much. Not that it will affect Razer's bottom line, but it's clear what their priorities are.
I'll never buy another razer product after I had 2 faulty razer viper v2 pro dongle die within 3 minutes of use. One after the other.
God i just want a wireless non-pro affordable viper mini wireless
I'm interested, but I'm a dude who likes RGB because it adds aesthetic to my Goku themed rig.
difference for the viper mini?
they actually going to discontinue the viper mini.
My Viper V2 pro has a creak / flex on the left side. Its unfortunate cause i like the mouse but the subtle flex is just so distracting and disappointing for an otherwise nice mouse. Going to give the Cobra Pro a go.
People have been crying for the Viper Mini Ultimate and they finally got it. Similar weight as the VPU in the same size as the VPM. 75g with the wireless, man.
Really should invest in a bungee huh.
great video mr techne
Just ordered the naga v2 pro. Can't wait till black friday or the v3 to drop so I can feel like I want to hang my self.
Im just praying that a normal competitive sub 60gram viper mini wireless ia a thing cause this aint it chief.
i don't care too much about wheight, its a lot of marketing... everything sub 80g is totally fine for me... (larger mouses like basilisk can also be heavier and its totally fine).
Its a lot of marketing with the wheight tbh....
i like the cobra in general, however the wheight ofc has to do with the features.... so considering all the PRO mice from razer were about getting rid of some features to put some wheight down its kinda strange to name the cobra "pro".... but it is what it is...
I hope they will release a cobra without the rgb gimmicks, because i dont need and don't want them
and also in mercury white or color variants, as i dont like black mices within my setup....
Will see, its an interesting product in terms of shape for me, just not there yet to pull the trigger ;)
Is the cobra wider than the viper mini?
No
DeathAdder with Feature? that's the Mamba
In Australia: AUD$ 235 just the mouse hahahahaha. Paid 20 on the viper mini. No way. 😂
i hate how i cant just use a regualar charging dock
Razer triggering users on purpose, all they had to do was launch the mini wireless without the rgb so it's below 70gm
Razer just pulling an Nvidia🤬😡and trying to “re-educate” people and charging more for the privilege of owning the same thing 👎🙈🤦♀🤦🤦♂.
The wired version is so much more worth tbh
the wired version is like a viper mini but razer decided to slap on a new sensor
basically a viper mini v2 lol
@@kiennguyenxuan4255 yeah exactly
Nice vid!
to me, cobra seems like a godsend. why? it has 2 connectivity. in my home setup (mainly hybrid gaming/coding). cobra will suit this using 2.4GHz connection (together with deathstalker v2 pro wireless).
in other hand, i have my work laptop from my company. when return home, i'll use the setup above but using the bluetooth connection for this laptop. whenever there's needs connection i can switch between them on the fly. i think this is the best use case at least for me. keeping only 1 device software only, in this case synapse, maybe set an onboard profile so i can delete that damn synapse. i left my work keyboard/mouse at office haha.
having said that, my current setup is using g913 tkl and g603 (same use cases). hope this helps.
put the wireless guts into the wired body
77g? why?
how about cobra wired LOD?
When did this man get tattoos and a goatee
i realy love the shape wht ever its call cobra viper or phyton...
I would be wary of the wired cobra’s reliability and QC past the warranty period as it has the same internals as that viper mini and the viper minis scroll wheel is known for crapping the bed like clock work after 2 months to a year of use.
I'll stick with my Viper mini. Leave well enough alone.
Just get a AJAZZ AJ199 for $30 instead of this crap
yo techne, did you not check up on the razer deathadder faker edition? i think they got rid of the side flex there and it has the same surface as the wired one.
I had one, and it had slight flex right out of the box. The wired one is just so much better
@@TheTechne oh, i understand :D
Heavy is also something that has to be seen in relation to the mouse. This is a small mouse, and yes 77g on that size is heavy AF! Also there are already enough "feature packed" mice in all kinds of shapes for lower prices on the market. We don't need more "leet gamer rgb" bullshit. What we need is simply a viper mini shell with a viper v2 pro inside. Big L razer. Really big L.
Ips:?
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razer should just give the people what they want.. Razer Viper Mini WIRELESS
"Those nerds don't know anything. Let's get back to our RGB roots. Casuals don't care about weight." - Razer prolly 🤡
Renaissance？？？
77g even heavier than the 2019 viper ult wtf is this the iq social research?
Razer ran out of ideas. I love my viper v2 pro tho great mouse.
I hate to say it cause razer has been killing it with pretty much everything. But I just feel like the Cobra Pro is just a dead on arrival product. The wired version being like 6 grams lighter and with the gen3 switches is the best thing that came out of this release tbh.
A very strange release, although I expected something like this we would get instead of Viper Mini Ultimate/Hyperspeed and that's why I bought another extra Orochi v2
Hyper X Haste 2 >>>>>
Razer just created a mouse that nobody wants
My man.
Little expensive
I very much prefer a slightly heavier mouse and i love that there's all around RGB. i think mice reviewers should not base how good a mouse is just being lightweight. Glad that there's balance in your evaluation, Techne!