Living with Narcissistic and Borderline Personality Disorder ft.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- Join Xannie, Katja, and Mo as they interview Kylee Rackam. Kylee, a mental health content creator, opens up about their personal journey living with both narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder.
In this thought-provoking conversation, Kylee sheds light on the similarities and differences between their experiences with these two disorders. Together, the group explores the challenges of stigmatized labels and considers the effectiveness of using the term "narc abuse".
Don't miss this enlightening discussion that will challenge your perceptions and provide valuable insights into the complexities of personality disorders
Check out Kylee's channel @KyleeRackam
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Although several of our panelists work in the mental health field, we are all coming to you as people in functional recovery from BPD, and are not here to provide professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.
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Thanks for having me. 🖤
thought it was you in the thumbnail 🥰
Halfway through... but I actually love your eyebrows... first thing I thought when I started watching your channel
Hi Kylee! I'm super curious, how do you feel (and what do you think) about your psych (to use the term you use to talk about her) saying she had been assessing you for NPD for months after you brought it up? You seem very open to the diagnosis, what factors do you think led up to you feeling this open to the diagnosis (e.g. I'm curious to hear more about your relationship to therapy)? It appears like you've met someone you very much trust. Interested to hear more if you'd like to expand!
This is awesome and super helpful! Thank you for being so honest and sharing your story.
I really appreciate you showing up for this. It did challenge a lot of my assumptions and I love it!
Abuse is not okay and no one should remain in an abusive situation…with that said, my abuser had SO MUCH pain and trauma of his own…it just showed up differently from my BPD. As I’ve aged and worked on my own healing…I began to actually feel bad for him. He never got help and I wish he could have.
Thank you for doing this video.
You’re so welcome!!
Okay I’m calling MYSELF out on this one, because I love how you guys humanize BPD and saw you were having a guest with NPD and cringed lol. Thank you for helping me get over myself on this, it was super helpful. I love how she explains this…
*they, but yes! I also recommend the nameless narcissist. I don’t have npd, but I know Kylee Rackam has retweeted him
I agree with Katja's closing statement to Kylee - what you are doing is courageous, and you are doing a great job of challenging people's preconceptions of what NPD is, how it manifests, and that there is a difference between NPD and being an abuser. Thank you for telling your story and offering your insight!
This is such a great conversation! I really appreciate you dispelling some of the prevalent myths about NPD, de stigmatising the disorder itself, and sharing how it absolutely is possible to treat NPD. I too had bought into the narrative that NPD was basically untreatable because I’d always heard that a symptom of the disorder was thinking that the problem was always someone else’s fault, and that lack of self awareness and desire to change were classic NPD signs. But this interview has given me a new perspective, and I think it’s very important for people to know that NPD is treatable and that people with this diagnosis are capable to change. Like any mental illness, there will always be those who are in self denial or resistant to treatment, but that isn’t exclusive to NPD, and I hope to hear more stories like these.
Wow, Kylee is so honest, articulate and refreshing. I'm recently diagnosed with BPD, and feeling really inspired hearing from all in recovery from a PD,
and I find hearing about the overlaps fasinating. Thank you for sharing
I totally agree! I think it’s really helpful to have representation of people’s experience with various mental disorders - especially to show that treatment and recovery are possible.
@@mari87310 Agreed, if The BPD Bunch weren’t around I’d have had some even worse challenges learning about it, so I get the idea that if everyone says you’re hopeless, what on earth is going to motivate you? It makes so much sense to talk about it. The more I learn the less I know.
Thank you for the de stigmatization of both disorders. Also so many people don’t think about the pain we go through with having a personality disorder. They act like we chose it.
No one would choose it but….we do rock.
Regarding relationships with someone whose choices were sometimes soul crushing to me yet they didn't see any problem with their choices. I wanted them to find away to treat me better, that was my boundary.
I finally had a therapist pose a new way to make a different choice when I was uncomfortable. I set the boundary that if their choices are effecting me negatively, I would leave to go to a hotel for the night. I reassured them I wasn't mad, not judging, just needed to let them have their choice while I make a choice for myself. (I lived in a city 250 miles away and would travel to their house when I was off from work.)
I ended up being able to leave this relationship due to making these new choices and coming to the realization I could leave with no regrets.
14 days ago this person with whom I had a 24 year relationship died of a heart attack. 23 years of me excusing their choices at the expense of my mental emotional health. 1 year of me making new choices which lead to me being able to love them, yet not need to be with them.
I love Kylee, they hate Kylee get is ridiculous. Thank you to you all! Its valuable.
I think a lot of people cling to Narcissism and relate it to abuse (unless there is a true clinical diagnosis) when honestly, abuse is abuse . Whether it’s from a Narcissist, or someone who is just abusive. I think we struggle to find a reason why a person who abused us , abused us. (I just got out of an abusive relationship, and while he had narcissistic tendencies, he had not had a diagnosis and doesn’t meet as much of the NPD criteria ) also very interested in psychology. CPTSD here… I’ve had a lot of incorrect diagnoses, ptsd was looked over very on so I kept looking for what could possibly be going on.
one thing I will say is like, the thrill you get when you do feel better than others is something I've noticed too. and I don't think a lot of people get that but it's like addicting to feel better than other people sometimes.
Thank you guys for making this … and the comments about the “narc appearance “ are nothing but projections … (bpd here )… thank you guys for this humanizing exploration of cluster b disorders ❤
hehe put me down for a couple of Help! mugs!! 🙂
ayee kylee. their way of talking about having bpd and npd helped me realize i do have narcissistic traits and im talking about it in therapy rn ❤
I think Kylee looks so much like Joan Jett! I hope she takes it as the compliment it’s meant to be.
The people forget that a bpd person can have traits of other PD traits. Like HPD, NPD, or APD or even of the other clusters.
Omg do you know what your saying?
Example bpd is not the same as antisocial, anti social and covert narc abuse is not criteria for bpd ??? You need to do more research
The "narcissist" label is 100% to dehumanize... coming from someone that used to do that to people. It is a way to write someone off
I want the Help! mug
I love this so much, ive seen kylees videos on instagram, having bpd has been very difficult (im on month 4 of dpt after being diagnosed in november of last year). Kylee's videos and this channel give me perspective. Ive needed hope that i can get out of my family's wacky cycles
man thats my huge question i been asking myself why do i stay in abusive situations 👀 (trauma bond) but why am i susceptible to that?
i like seen it early and still stayed , i remember her asking me if i think we have trauma bonded i mean she knew what she was doing, it was like the worse it got the harder i tried to love her , i can remember talking to a therapist and sticking up for her , oh she has this and that etc 🙄
107 days NC i still miss her its crazy 😀
i been asking myself for years do i have NPD the whole thing is so confusing to me.
so the sicker i see she was/is the same is true of me i went to the end with her and is it over lol we been apart longer and went back um but everytime its worse so i really need to heal my stuff and let her go so weird caring about someone that hurts you.
i been diagnosed with CPTSD & OCD and they sure can look like what you are talking about today.
i mean i am ok i just put a tattoo on my arm at 3am lol
Thanks for putting this up guys it sure helps.
Hello everyone. Hope you all are doing well.
Xannie like your head wear 💗
Be thebest your self , the rest will follow. We do not need others validation.
Be Yore Self.
When we do as others do we are set at Challange. So make your channel where others challanges you.
We cannot challange every one at every front, we can be challange at our front only. And each front cannot be every ones mastery. Be best in what we can do.
Be your self love Your self.
World is not a challange to live in.
Its being your self.
Be best of your self.
I commend all of you for your frank discussions of your struggles, including the lady who discusses her NPD with such clarity. Thank you for this. I do have a strong criticism however. I do not think a class of potential abuse perpetrators has any business gatekeeping the terms that abuse victims use to describe their abuse. If you're not one of the people who was abused, then what they call their abuse is NONE of your business. You're not mental health professionals, and you're not the victims. So you don't have the standing to really advance an opinion. I think your critique of people who suffer at the hands of those with narcissistic personality disorder, and whether or not there actually is such a thing as "narc abuse" is really egregiously entitled and that you should not wade into territory where you potentially invalidate the experiences of victims.
I appreciate your criticism, thank you for sharing!
It’s important to recognize that invalidation is not always bad. It can let us know when we are behaving in ways that are not effective.
As a victim of abuse myself, I believe we have a responsibility not to use our abuse as a free pass to make stigmatizing generalizations about entire groups of people. The term “Narc Abuse” has become a part of the current pop-psychology scene and is often thrown around irregardless of an actual NPD diagnosis in the perpetrator. From what I’ve observed, it ends up furthering the stigma that those with NPD are inherently abusive, and makes it even less likely that those who actually have the disorder will seek treatment.
If I were to start making stigmatizing comments that lumped a bunch of strangers in with my abuser, I hope someone would have the courage to set me straight. ❤
Host, I'm not sure you need to be so loud/dramatic when you're talking about something serious like psychological disorders. Don't take it personally, but you should keep in mind most people don't come here in loud bubbly moods. It can be overwhelming to hear you being so loud. However, your commentary is excellent and very thought provoking.
Thanks for sharing your feedback! Unfortunately, that’s just my natural personality. 🥲
@@xannibelle I didn't mean to be rude. I have no fkn filter. Carry on. You're great.
@@alouise3557 Thanks for saying that! It’s OK though, I understand I am a lot sometimes. I try to be mindful of how I come across but sometimes I just get really excited. 😂
I'm diagnosed with anti-social personality disorder please someone on the channel with ASPD
Coming soon!
How many of you have been kicked out and told not to come back from a phycologist/councilors office during a evaluation
I can only speak for myself, I’ve never been kicked out because usually the second someone rubbed me the wrong way I stormed out 😂
Fight or flight
My problem is I am a very honest person.... They ask me questions and they are not prepared for the answers that I give in-depth details about unfortunately I have been blessed with BPD poor impulse control with homicidal idealization and intrusive thoughts.... I am a very peaceful person...but I can't help thinking about the things I do and will not suffer and hide them from the people I seek help from
Have you all been officially diagnosed by professionals?
Yes!
This is f triggering. My father is a sociopath, spend his entire life tearing me down and it just never stops. I tried building a relationship with my brother, he absolutely destroyed it. I was unable to form bonds with my family members because of his paranoia, his need to be the center of attention and lack of ability to connect and therefore seeing authentic connection as somehow threatening. I have BPD traits and I am capable of love but I also live with a sense of emptiness that comes and goes and the fact that my father has created this life for me-I can't access my family unless its on his terms makes me full of rage and hatred for anyone who says they have npd. I just hope she is able to work on herself because these people are so damaging especially when they they choose to point the finger at others.
@@BBFCCO733 I’m sorry you experienced that. I understand why seeing me was triggering. I know you’ll never be able to fully heal from the abuse your father caused, but I do hope you’re eventually able to move forward and rebuild a better, healthier life for yourself - and that maybe one day you’re able to talk to your family without him dictating how. You deserve love and happiness, and you NEVER ever ever should’ve gone through what you did. I don’t know you, but I’m so sorry you experienced that. Just know you are valid, your experience is valid, and that the emptiness doesn’t always have to be forever.
@@KyleeRackam You seem really sweet. I apologize for putting you in the same box as him. He would NEVER apologize to me. Maybe he has aspd. I dunno. But I hope that you can find your happiness as well! xo
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Professionals speak clearly online about NPD ,do you think there wrong ?
So why is there no males on this panel?
Cause it’s an interview, not a panel discussion
It would be interesting how many hospital admissions she had with BPD??
Covert narcs like to use language in technical terms one narcissitic person on TH-cam speaks the truth know the difference
Why is she diagnosing herself with bpd when she doesnt have a diagnoses????
Everyone here has officially been diagnosed by a professional 👍
When covert narcs abuse some which is illegal should be sent to prison,the abuse caused by these people is serious, I'm tired of people minimising this,no one has the right to control or abuse another person end of ,maybe in prison they can think about their behaviour
Bpd an npd is not the same maybe you dont understand it,ive never met someone with bpd who have npd
Brady bunch😂😂😂
Maybe your seeing it through your own narrative?
This is the worse video ive watched they dont have no understanding of bpd and npd 😂😂😂😂 what a joke