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@@hukares5363 never use that on the tank, it is usable on a DPS (especially Arcanist) to boost group DPS but never use it on a tank or healer in hard content (recovery cost, double bar requirement are horrible)
Also I think truthfully at this point, it’s pretty unanimous that players don’t like having to double bar skills. Wonder why, knowing this, they went this route regardless
Because is a decent skill for group play, both organise pvp and end game trial raids. Had they made this skill single bar with the same effect it will be bis and very op. Then people will complain p2w crap all over again. The current version of banner is very balance. Crap for solo but good for group.
@ not really about balance. I’m talking about sorc pets and any skill that you have to double bar. It just feels bad. I’d rather them balance around skills not being double barred personally
I think the banner is nice for trial groups, it gives them more flexibility to toggle some buffs. Idk though about pvp. It seems to elevate the already strong ball groups even further
Hey cooper! 👋 Hope life's going well for you man. Miss seeing around in the guild. Come back when your ready, I know your making time to be a father. See you soon 😊. The Cooking Koala 🐨
Made my guild in 2015 still running today and i am tired i don't want to do quests running around doing the same stuff over and over i don't care about any new stuff i did not even collect any new furniture plans for the past 2 years and in 2024 i did 3 trials i am really getting sick of the same shit over and over nothing they bring out is really worth it i am at this point thinking its time for palworld at least i can in slave a pokemon bc at this moment i am the slave
The biggest problem for me personally is I could log in and play, but what’s the point? What’s the reward or catch? Seems all the rewards are still, after all these years, locked in the store rather than earnable by players 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the info! Maybe a controversial opinion, but as a filthy, fat-fingered casual, I appreciate ZOS consistently lowering the skill ceiling on nightblade over the past few updates.
Basically in most content, shadow cloak is dead, for most players. Toggles do not work reliably in this game. This is such a dumb decision. But the new banner ability is amazing. I'm loving it on my arcanist on both my one bar solo build and my dual bar group builds. All the people flipping out about double bar skills are odd... I have to double bar on warden and on sorc for various builds. It's not new.
@@aduialdir It's still very much in development, but sure. As it stands, right now. 64 points into stam. Cephaliarch's flail. ulfsild's contingency. Banner. Recuperative Treatise. Pargmatic fatecarver. Tide king's gaze. Contingency is set up with healing, sage's remedy, resolve. This skill stays the same on all builds and has completely replaced Vigor for both solo and group content. (especially on stamina characters, having your non-class based heal being your damage stat never works well for me). Banner is multi-target, class mastery, and Resolve. As far as I can tell, Resolve is the ONLY Affix script that is not already covered by oakensoul (which grants the greater version, while Resolve grants the lesser version), and while I get slightly better damage with the ur-mage amulet, even on a one bar, I have more sustain issues, so i tend to run this build as an oakensoul. Tri-stat potions. Camoran throne for most content, but I have a few Takeaway Broth for when I'm having issues. Sugar skulls are also nice, but have some sustain issues. Slimecraw, Briarheart and deadly with a oakensoul ring. Build is prioritizing doing enough damage while not dying horrifically. Doing about 55-60k on the Dummy at the moment.
@@drackar Thank you, i wouldn't mind modifying a bit in order to increase dps, maybe using Barbed Trap for group content. I'll deffinetely look forward to this build since i believe banner is gonna get prioritized soon.
@@aduialdir I hate youtube comment so much. Had a whole thing written out.... I've just swapped down from Recuperative Treatise to inspired scholarship. Playing with this build I've found I don't need the bonus sustain from that, so minor damage improvement to be had there. Trap is a good option, but if you're running oakensoul all it really provides is one mildly annoying to apply single target bleed and bleed DOT, and hemorrhaging. Consider torchbearer if you want the slayer passive, or (better, with my experimenting) Soul burst. Both can have both instant and DOT bleed damage applied, and soul burst can be equipped with a interrupt, so if you're running ansuuls it's a clear winner. Also consider the blockade morph of wall of elements with a lightning staff. Very good DPS boost, and fits perfectly with two flail beam rotations.
@@drackar Hi, sorry for this late reply. I actually saw your message last week and been trying it on my one bar stam-arcanist this time. The only difference is i use Barbed Trap instead of Ulfsild's Contingency, in order to increase the DPS. I get aprox 68k dps on trial dummy with a build consisted of Deadly Strike-PoN-Oakensoul and Slimecraw. The weapon is daggers, dual wield, with charged traits. The dmg is fine but i'm trying to get 80k dps in order to try my luck at vet trials, like vDSR so i can farm for Perfected Coral Riptide armor. Been open to any suggestions, as long as it is one bar.
Inclusion of double bar skills increase my ESO + cooldown 😂. Bar space is anorexic as it is. Where's my Green CP that unlocks a third bar at? Console can handle it. Dpad has a couple of redundant/useless features that can be toggled off in favor of this.
Why? Leveling alliance is not that hard. The pvp tutorial alone will get you to level 3 without doing any actual pvp. After that you can do daily quests in cyro and IC.
Update 44 for ESO scribing new skills banner bearer focus scripts are all dumb ASF It raises the ability by 6 or 8 % But it reduced all your recovery by 33% as if you were a vampire Just dumb who are making these decisions
The reason for these small skill bars, and the need for double bar skills is the simple fact that the company's are catering to console players who only have a few buttons to program, vs pc keyboard which can accommodate numerous skills at one time. They pretend that this is some new revolution in gaming and that you have to strategically choose your skills, etc - (this was the way ESO marketed it). That is all garbage to sell pc players that they don't need access to all their skills while catering to console controller.
? You get 5 skills and an ultimate and a back bar w/ 5 more skills and an ultimate and can easily toggle both on xbox same as you do on pc... am i misunderstanding your point?
@@ksfishchannel Here is the point. The PC is more capable and could offer more buttons for skills without switching a bar and all that. The 'limit' is because of console controllers being catered to. Let PC users add more keys on the number bar, the F keys, and all of the other keyboard keys, and menu the buttons like the 'guild' button hot key, etc. The point, again, is that PC's are held back by the company catering to the consoles. The bar was mentioned in the video, and it brought this concept to mind. *The other point is that they don't tell you - 'Hey...PC users, we're going to screw you and cater to console players; we aren't going to allow the game to accommodate more keys and the versatility of your keyboards and mice." They market it like it is some big challenge...and how you have to 'select your skills' before combat with this group strategy in mind, and that it is by design. That is not by design, it is a sorry excuse to sell it while catering to consoles.
Lots of class identity still in the game. You can create great thematic builds. May not be absolute META, but still very solid for most content. People get pigeon holed into thinking META is the only way to play. Maybe for score pushing trial trifectas, but not the case otherwise largely despite what others say
@@TheParallelSound a lot of pay to win games are free or at least seem to be upfront. People are complaining because there are options out there and that’s why the population is steadily decreasing. You don’t have to believe me you can look it up and youtube it and find out for yourself. I myself have played many MMORPGs in my time and when they stop listening to the community is when the game starts dying.
@@TheParallelSound The Elder Scrolls Online base game is not free. The now yearly DLC's are definitely not free. But yes, even with the sunken cost fallacy at play, you are correct that no one is forcing me to play. By the same token, no one forced you to make a snarky comment.
Skill looks ass 😂 6% dot damage when dots nerfed overall they do think of some trash ideas at Zos “let’s do 6% dot damage” whoever think of that should be fired ambition-less
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I can see this being overpowered for zergs if the recovery boost effects the whole party and the whole zerg uses it.
I used the Banner on my Nord Warden Sheild Bash Build which it and my Shield Throw brought me to EMPEROR for the 1st time in November.
At first I was interested in this skill. However, the reduction in mag, stam and health recovery by at least 33% is more than I'm comfortable with.
Use it on tanks, their recovery is never anything to write home about and it helps max group dps
@@hukares5363 never use that on the tank, it is usable on a DPS (especially Arcanist) to boost group DPS but never use it on a tank or healer in hard content (recovery cost, double bar requirement are horrible)
Shi ima slap this on the tank
Also I think truthfully at this point, it’s pretty unanimous that players don’t like having to double bar skills. Wonder why, knowing this, they went this route regardless
Because is a decent skill for group play, both organise pvp and end game trial raids.
Had they made this skill single bar with the same effect it will be bis and very op. Then people will complain p2w crap all over again.
The current version of banner is very balance. Crap for solo but good for group.
@ not really about balance. I’m talking about sorc pets and any skill that you have to double bar. It just feels bad. I’d rather them balance around skills not being double barred personally
Amen.
Oh this ability seems cool.
Double bar needed
Never fuckin mind
I dont see why you cant use it in one bar builds
@vldvvalentin if I'm doing a one bar I'd have taken soul on. Skill would be redundant
I think the banner is nice for trial groups, it gives them more flexibility to toggle some buffs. Idk though about pvp. It seems to elevate the already strong ball groups even further
Banner with direct damage I'd amazing on Templar
ESO needs a massive facelift imo. I’ve played since the beginning. Time to stop playing it safe and get a ton of people excited to play the game again
Hey cooper! 👋
Hope life's going well for you man.
Miss seeing around in the guild.
Come back when your ready, I know your making time to be a father.
See you soon 😊.
The Cooking Koala 🐨
Made my guild in 2015 still running today and i am tired i don't want to do quests running around doing the same stuff over and over i don't care about any new stuff i did not even collect any new furniture plans for the past 2 years and in 2024 i did 3 trials i am really getting sick of the same shit over and over nothing they bring out is really worth it i am at this point thinking its time for palworld at least i can in slave a pokemon bc at this moment i am the slave
Yup! I Wana keep playing but I'm so fucking boreddddd
The biggest problem for me personally is I could log in and play, but what’s the point? What’s the reward or catch? Seems all the rewards are still, after all these years, locked in the store rather than earnable by players 🤷🏻♂️
My, and many people’s, biggest issue is the lack of difficulty options in overland zones!
The big hit to recovery keeps me from using this one. But you did a great job covering it, ty as always!
I think this may be good with a leeching strikes build or some variant of leeching strikes.
Do you have the constant noise every time someone comes in or out of the radius? I find it super annoying, but the buffs are worth it IMO.
I haven't used it personally yet, but my friends that use it complain about the noise all the time.
Really curious how to get the class skill styles, has anyone figured out where to get them or where they will be yet?
So, 4 person party... each could run their own banner, worked out so that they have the 'right' mix of benefits? Seems really OP, honestly.
Thanks for the info! Maybe a controversial opinion, but as a filthy, fat-fingered casual, I appreciate ZOS consistently lowering the skill ceiling on nightblade over the past few updates.
The recovery reduction is enough of a downside I don’t think it’s necessary to have to be double barred as well
Banner seems nice , but on each bars , in solo , i think i'll loose dps ...the upgrade (10pc damage) on NB is insane !
And Nerfed in update 45
How do you get the new Banner Skill line?
If you're unlucky you need to buy the DLC that unlocks scribing, IF you haven't already, that is.
The Cavalier's Charge dont work
Nice.
NB nerfed?
I don't understand how this banner is effective in game with the 33% reduced regeneration.
it will be fun 2 se 1 bar heawy attack build an build banner 2 boost heawy attack.
Basically in most content, shadow cloak is dead, for most players. Toggles do not work reliably in this game. This is such a dumb decision. But the new banner ability is amazing. I'm loving it on my arcanist on both my one bar solo build and my dual bar group builds.
All the people flipping out about double bar skills are odd... I have to double bar on warden and on sorc for various builds. It's not new.
Can you share your one bar solo build, i'm intrigued. Couldn't find a way to fit banner into my one-bar stamarc.
@@aduialdir It's still very much in development, but sure. As it stands, right now. 64 points into stam.
Cephaliarch's flail. ulfsild's contingency. Banner. Recuperative Treatise. Pargmatic fatecarver. Tide king's gaze.
Contingency is set up with healing, sage's remedy, resolve. This skill stays the same on all builds and has completely replaced Vigor for both solo and group content. (especially on stamina characters, having your non-class based heal being your damage stat never works well for me).
Banner is multi-target, class mastery, and Resolve. As far as I can tell, Resolve is the ONLY Affix script that is not already covered by oakensoul (which grants the greater version, while Resolve grants the lesser version), and while I get slightly better damage with the ur-mage amulet, even on a one bar, I have more sustain issues, so i tend to run this build as an oakensoul.
Tri-stat potions. Camoran throne for most content, but I have a few Takeaway Broth for when I'm having issues. Sugar skulls are also nice, but have some sustain issues.
Slimecraw, Briarheart and deadly with a oakensoul ring.
Build is prioritizing doing enough damage while not dying horrifically. Doing about 55-60k on the Dummy at the moment.
@@drackar Thank you, i wouldn't mind modifying a bit in order to increase dps, maybe using Barbed Trap for group content. I'll deffinetely look forward to this build since i believe banner is gonna get prioritized soon.
@@aduialdir I hate youtube comment so much. Had a whole thing written out....
I've just swapped down from Recuperative Treatise to inspired scholarship. Playing with this build I've found I don't need the bonus sustain from that, so minor damage improvement to be had there.
Trap is a good option, but if you're running oakensoul all it really provides is one mildly annoying to apply single target bleed and bleed DOT, and hemorrhaging.
Consider torchbearer if you want the slayer passive, or (better, with my experimenting) Soul burst. Both can have both instant and DOT bleed damage applied, and soul burst can be equipped with a interrupt, so if you're running ansuuls it's a clear winner.
Also consider the blockade morph of wall of elements with a lightning staff. Very good DPS boost, and fits perfectly with two flail beam rotations.
@@drackar Hi, sorry for this late reply. I actually saw your message last week and been trying it on my one bar stam-arcanist this time. The only difference is i use Barbed Trap instead of Ulfsild's Contingency, in order to increase the DPS.
I get aprox 68k dps on trial dummy with a build consisted of Deadly Strike-PoN-Oakensoul and Slimecraw. The weapon is daggers, dual wield, with charged traits.
The dmg is fine but i'm trying to get 80k dps in order to try my luck at vet trials, like vDSR so i can farm for Perfected Coral Riptide armor. Been open to any suggestions, as long as it is one bar.
Having a banner on my character all the time? Lmao looks so bad
Make a habit to include one-bar version into your builds.
Throw oaken soul in the trash, with this skill you basically don’t need it anymore.
imagine using only one bar builds :D
❤
Inclusion of double bar skills increase my ESO + cooldown 😂. Bar space is anorexic as it is. Where's my Green CP that unlocks a third bar at? Console can handle it. Dpad has a couple of redundant/useless features that can be toggled off in favor of this.
Rip to those of us that don’t play pvp 😂
Why? Leveling alliance is not that hard. The pvp tutorial alone will get you to level 3 without doing any actual pvp. After that you can do daily quests in cyro and IC.
@ oh it’s not the doing that’s the issue it’s all the sweaty try hards that make it an annoyance that’s just not worth it.
@@JamesAttwood-f3mit takes no time at all lmao
Update 44 for ESO scribing new skills banner bearer focus scripts are all dumb ASF
It raises the ability by 6 or 8 %
But it reduced all your recovery by 33% as if you were a vampire
Just dumb who are making these decisions
The reason for these small skill bars, and the need for double bar skills is the simple fact that the company's are catering to console players who only have a few buttons to program, vs pc keyboard which can accommodate numerous skills at one time. They pretend that this is some new revolution in gaming and that you have to strategically choose your skills, etc - (this was the way ESO marketed it). That is all garbage to sell pc players that they don't need access to all their skills while catering to console controller.
? You get 5 skills and an ultimate and a back bar w/ 5 more skills and an ultimate and can easily toggle both on xbox same as you do on pc... am i misunderstanding your point?
@@ksfishchannel Here is the point. The PC is more capable and could offer more buttons for skills without switching a bar and all that. The 'limit' is because of console controllers being catered to. Let PC users add more keys on the number bar, the F keys, and all of the other keyboard keys, and menu the buttons like the 'guild' button hot key, etc.
The point, again, is that PC's are held back by the company catering to the consoles. The bar was mentioned in the video, and it brought this concept to mind.
*The other point is that they don't tell you - 'Hey...PC users, we're going to screw you and cater to console players; we aren't going to allow the game to accommodate more keys and the versatility of your keyboards and mice." They market it like it is some big challenge...and how you have to 'select your skills' before combat with this group strategy in mind, and that it is by design. That is not by design, it is a sorry excuse to sell it while catering to consoles.
A worthless skill for 99 percent of PVE players. Like all Scribing stuff.
Lol glad I did not buy any of this new stuff they added in. So many issues with this game and don't get me started with the toxic community!
I know. Very toxic no body talks to me,in this game
@LTHEGRIFFTAH sorry to that hear 😞
@anonforever7757 I love the game but it's boring alone,
@LTHEGRIFFTAH I know right If it's not the people it's the game itself.
So classes have lost their identity? sad to see the way SOS has taken with this game..
Someone don't know how create a personal build? A problem for you. A really big one.
Lots of class identity still in the game. You can create great thematic builds. May not be absolute META, but still very solid for most content.
People get pigeon holed into thinking META is the only way to play. Maybe for score pushing trial trifectas, but not the case otherwise largely despite what others say
They really just copy everything destiny does.
Oh, another pay to win skill. If you don't get the DLC, you will be at a disadvantage. Yay ZO$
Get a job
It's a free game. Your complaining about something no one is forcing you to play.
@@TheParallelSound a lot of pay to win games are free or at least seem to be upfront. People are complaining because there are options out there and that’s why the population is steadily decreasing. You don’t have to believe me you can look it up and youtube it and find out for yourself. I myself have played many MMORPGs in my time and when they stop listening to the community is when the game starts dying.
@@TheParallelSound The Elder Scrolls Online base game is not free. The now yearly DLC's are definitely not free. But yes, even with the sunken cost fallacy at play, you are correct that no one is forcing me to play. By the same token, no one forced you to make a snarky comment.
@@grantkohler7612 Get a job
So tiresome with these bullshit clickbait titles. No bannerbearer isnt some gamechanger.
Skill looks ass 😂 6% dot damage when dots nerfed overall they do think of some trash ideas at Zos “let’s do 6% dot damage” whoever think of that should be fired ambition-less
Arcanist exists
They just nerf Arcanist like 2 patches in a row , also arc get bonus to recovery but that’s gone with this skill to 😂 sounds awesome