The reason why the U.S. Army is replacing the Humvee
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2017
- The famous HMMWV’s days are numbered. The Army has made its fifth order for the new Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, officially coming in four versions: the M1278 Heavy Guns Carrier, the M1279 Utility, the M1280 General Purpose, and the M1281 Close Combat Weapons Carrier.
According to a release by OshKosh Defense, this order consists of 748 vehicles and over 2,350 installed kits. The vehicle is currently in Low-Rate Initial Production, and the first units are expected to be equipped with the vehicle by the middle of Fiscal Year 2019,with a planned Initial Operating Capability by the end of 2020.
The HMMWV has served for over 30 years, but like the Jeep it replaced in the 1980s, it was proving to be incapable of meeting the demands of a modern battlefield. For the Jeep, the problem was keeping up with armored fighting vehicles like the M1 Abrams tank and the M2/M3 Bradley Fighting Vehicle.
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Once I hear the robot voice I click off the video
I do the same. But i want humv description. So Tolerated it.
Start video at 4:26
The Humvee is a beautiful military car, I want it to remain operational for many more decades, and never need to be replaced from the jltv.
Willy Jeep: proud of you grandson.
Humvee: way to go son.
athana kop, .... right, Humvee was last acceptable tactical vehicle, *Newer's MRAPS et etc,
too -big -heavy, not -flexible, able to drive in open deserts, not in wooden areas etc.
US-Army forgot European WW2 terms and conditions; - last not least Nato-Member Germany's Experiences in Sowjet war. Is it a wonder other constructions find in Europe ??
... but hope will be in US-brain actually a *Renaissance again-of/ about smaller sizes like
*Jeep-Wrangler etc. (so Tacom). as a - new/old type of (real-again) *Tactical vehicle
- Motto = whereever you want to be....(driven)....
Thanks for attention, Greetings from Germany,
The computer voice narration needs to go
StreetMachine18 I don't understand why the person typing out that narration couldn't just read it
PAKTRA PRODUCTIONS because they dont speak english. The chinese/russian spammers just copy paste from wiki or use google translate.
1 min in i had to quit watching... feel like I'm watching spam.. good thing its youtube & there is 100 other videos to watch w real voices ! HAHAHA
CineSkies so true
once the voice starts is when i stop the video
So this means...more Mumvees for us civilians
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NO!! There Going To Our Local Police Departments To Be Used On Us...Or Junked
You really don't want one of those
@@haroldwaig2242 Lol i was gonna comment the same thing.
I dont know why you want one.
It's wider than any fishing/ hunting trail. It is serriously underpowered.
It is unable to pull a trailer more than 45 mph without problems.
The design is Allergic to rocky terrain, packed full of engine problems. The alternators are only good for 3 months. Then you start getting a flicker in your light system. So if you want a radio its gonna burn up every 3 months.
It is automatic.
Plus anything you can buy as a civilian will be nothing but a frame because you have to have clearance to even know what the outer materials are made of. Which must be disclosed upon sale.
the humvee had so much weight packed on it that you would completely have to change the undercarriage out before you could use it. If it was good, you would not be able to drive it because of the stiffness, if it was bad then your suspension arms and springs need replaced and new bolt holes on the frame where the old ones wore through.
They are junk. That's why the military is getting rid of them. Lasted 2 generations because contract.
The f16 and f14 was used in vietnam. It is 30 years older. Still used today, put that math together.
Granted they are more expensive. But still 55 years old. They saw JFK in office. Surely would have been phased out by now.
iraq/ afghanistan were is the only wars the hummer have seen. They failed at every turn. And the jltv has been comming in since 2008.
I like it, build me a civilian version.
Get a Unimog there's a reason why it's still there since 1946.
I see them on the road every day, good ol Oshkosh wi
I think it will be soon.It would be a huge earning for Oshkosh
I'm just waiting for some civilian idiot to want one in Pearl White with Ostrich skin leather.
youtu.be/addme/Y9Jej5jAbdkrbmHIVpZCDGbQWdFT9Q
I’m a 91B and I can already tell these thing are gonna be a pain in the ass to service
HMMWV look so simple, common, and neat. As if they are the proper standard and just... work? Over complicating things isn't always the best choice.
Totally look amazing.and very cool and the different types of vehicles and the capabilities of these are powerful too ..Thank you so much
A report came out yesterday saying they will not be replacing the Humvee they will be refurbishing the Humvee
Look like dog car from dumb and dumber
It would be nice if it had a small on-board generator to power the new suite of electronics without idling the engine constantly.
I believe the Australian Hawkei has a generator that runs independently.
It would have to be diesel, you wouldn't want to carry gas & diesel, that's no problem, but it wouldn't be a light little Honda, so would carrying around the extra weight use the fuel that you save not having to run regular motor, also it would involve being able to power everything from both sources, that's more places to have problems, the main benefit would be less hours on the motor, I would think it would be worth it, IF you get a couple more years out of the motor.
Why not use both?
#HumveeLivesMatter
Even unified, additional vehicle type bloat up the operating price.
I vote for giving the HMMWV to officers and JLTV to enlisted,after all,enlisted are the ones getting it done outside the wire everyday!
Yea russian guy is right. If u have another vehicle that means training ur michanics on it and buying more parts for them. No point on having two for the same purpose
#HumveeLivesMatter
We all love humvees keep them military
Not gonna lie really miss the iconic good old humvee
The UK is also buying nearly 3000 of these, we have the new Foxhound vehicle which is very nice but due to us being the only user of it we have to pay the full R&D cost, plus the composite armour is expensive, it's great as a lightweight vehicle but for larger tasks the JLTV fits the bill, and buying a vehicle the US are using cuts costs for spare parts and manufacture for a vehicle with such large order numbers, it just makes sense.
also its easier for the UK to just have us fly and ship them over instead of them relying on other means
Harry Eaton i
Hope you enjoy the mechanical issues you’ll have. The us military uses the living hell out of its vehicles enjoy.
@@curiousentertainment3008 We're not getting ex military vehicles, we're getting brand new ones bought.
Just finished a rotation at NTC with these vehicles they are the truth!
8:08 Happy Humvee.
looking great. Can`t wait to see it in action.
hey maybe drop 6 or 7 more commercial in the 11 minute video.
when passing the dirt road, my heart always beats faster. IED made me worry when driving an old humvee.
Still loves the design of the humvee
I don't know why but all of this cars are seem's like have a dog face 🐶
Simple it was never ment to be used as a heavy combat vehicle it's light transport security vehicle but was pressed into the IFV roll even though it was never ment to be used as such
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There are no current plans to replace all Humvees in service though the JLTV will serve many roles.
Simple the humvee doesn't offer enough protection without absolutely booging down the suspension with extra armor it wasn't designed for. The lower profile and extra weight means parts wear out faster and you get stuck easier.
Very true, also engine and break performance was dramatically reduced while carrying around all that armour. Would take ages to accelerate, and handle like a dog at high speed.
The Humvee is good at it's original job, high mobility for utility use, but not for mine protected frontline service, it just doesn't cut it for the job the Army require of it nowadays.
in later years of the H1 they put Lvl 3-4 armor and 3-4inch acrylic bulletproof sheets in the window openings ... the H1 is still a Beast to be Recon and shouldnt be replaced with those UGLY things newer isnt always better .... look that the USN Zumwalt its already in process of being decommissioned ahhaha what a joke of a ship its not even stealth
I hope the bonnet and front guards , windows , windscreen and front doors are at least small arms fire proof . Plus is there a some type of protection for the radiator ?
Tem alguma possibilidade de modificar a transmissão final pra aumentar a velocidade do humvee?
At first I thought that was the OshKosh M-ATV, but then I realized it was the OshKosh JLTV
I can remember, in the 1980's, reading an article about the Jeep being replaced by the Humvee, in the US Army. I was wondering now if there's a video about that, from that time.
I hope that grille is armored. Everything else looks protected, but if the grille isn’t, the enemy can hit the radiator, will overheat and stall and will be a sitting duck
Can’t wait to get these in the future 😍🤘🏻🇺🇸
Don’t you chaps hit land mines? We used Casspir and Buffel troop carriers in Angola. They were v shaped to minimize mine damage. Not sure why you stick to these flat body vehicles???
This guy has a floor built to withstand quite a blast
As a retired Marine, my first thought when they were showing the vehicle in the 'car show' (at 2:46) was that it wasn't very 'grenade proof'...it has a LOT of catch-points and flats on top that would 'hold or wedge' a grenade until it went off...and that's not good, if you fully understand how powerful a grenade blast really is. The center of that engine hood (bonnet) has several catch-points alone, and if it caught and held a grenade until detonation, it would be right against the base of the windshield...taking out the hood, the engine, the driver and passenger front-seat...leaving the rest to wait to be finished off...VERY BAD DESIGN, for the sake of 'looking tough'...
Should have used the Cummins engine in it coupled that Allison transmission. Perfect!!!
Oh the good old days of a Dodge power wagon. I'm only 44 I was born in 1974 but I remember vividly having mine and driving up in the mountains here in Julian passing up every 4 wheel drive that came even near me. ⌚U6🇺🇸⚡
Does it have airbags to lower and raise it? Or is it hydraulic? Either way we have more that can break on mission
I've got news for you, an un-governed Hummer will do 100 mph +.
I served with the M-151A2, and a few A1s. It was a great vehicle, if you weren't a hotdog behind the wheel. I was able to get a MUTT to do things everyone else believed it couldn't do.
I was one of the first 100 soldiers in my division to be licensed for the HMMWV. I liked it, generally speaking. I did not care for the automatic transmission, and the shift pattern took some getting used to, especially the lack of the park slot, IE you had to place the transmission shifter into neutral, and set the parking brake when you stopped. While more comfortable than the M-151, the Hummer was larger, and so more difficult to navigate in forested areas. The Hummer was also much louder, with the turbo diesel. I think the turbocharger may have been removed on later production vehicles, as ones I heard later on did not have that same high pitched whine, as the early ones.
My unit kept M-151s long after everyone else had had to surrender them, as they allowed us to conduct our operations better, even though we got Hummers also, so for several years we had more vehicles in our unit, than the normal TO&E authorized. The biggest drawback to the Hummer, was that once inside, you were almost completely cutoff from outside stimuli. In other words, you didn't hear as well, see as well, smell as well, or feel your environment as well as you did in a MUTT. This creates a false sense of security, as well as removing the soldier from the environment he must live, and fight within.
This new vehicle looks like it is bigger still than the Hummer, but is even more enclosed. So the soldier is even more isolated from the battlefield environment. That may be useful when IEDs are your biggest threat, but it will be very detrimental in combat in most environments other than desert, while fighting terrorists, and irregular forces.
The narrator makes reference to the fact that the M-151 series couldn't keep up with Abrams tanks, and IFV's. That is quite true, but they were NEVER intended to. The M-151 series was designed, and first adopted in 1958, and while there were three major upgrades (M-151, A1, and A2), along with several lesser MWO changes, the M-151 was a GPWV (General Purpose Wheeled Vehicle [commonly referred to as a GP {jeep}]). Meaning it was a scouting, light attack, support, or liaison vehicle. It replaced three classes of vehicles used in WWII/Korea, and two used in Viet Nam. It was never intended to be direct support for armor, and with the adoption of the M-1 Abrams class of MBT, the M-151 series had NO HOPE of ever maintaining contact with the armor elements, but then, again, it was never intended to.
Further, it seems to have even less cargo capacity than the Hummer, and the under hood area is an even bigger spaghetti factory than the Hummer. One of the biggest beauties of the M-151 series, was they were simple. Two mechanics, with a chain hoist, and a sturdy tree, could swap out the power pack in three hours. The Hummer takes at least two, maybe more, and needs a dedicated motor shop. This new thing will be an even bigger nightmare for the mechs in the field.
Modern Army, and Marine Corps leadership has forgotten the oldest adage of warfare. "If it can go wrong, it will, and probably already has". To that end, stop looking for the most sophisticated, and coolest toys on the market, like the Air Force, and Navy do. Look for the equipment that will do the job most efficiently, yet allow the soldier to do his primary job, be that fighting, or maintaining/repairing.
Nice video!
Because mines shred it into a million pieces, unlike Aussie made Bushmasters and Hawkwei, PMV Vehicles?
Thank God we replaced the HMMWV because if we didn't, I would have lost a lot of battle buddies during OEF.
Forrest W I actually like the hmmwv better because it looks better this one looks like some futuristic vehicle
二屄 吃屎 牛屄 I mean it’s my opinion so pretty much yea
At 4:15. It seems to me that the front engine compartment is too compact. Too many components make it difficult to repair & maintenance. This is not a good thing in combat situations.
peter kung ... No problemo, it's U.S. made. It never breaks.
peter kung,
American military won't repair any vehicles that's disabled. They will just push it aside and blow it up.
Thousands of perfectly working Humvees were abandoned in Iraq, because some idiots want to save transportation costs. Those humvees ended up in ISIS hands. So you see? There is no way American soldiers will reuse a damaged jeep. They don't even save the working ones.
peter kung you've not seen any newer diesels, have you? Even in the full size trucks, they're packed tight. It's just part of having an engine that's 6L and 900lbs.(or whatever the diesel in this weighs).
Philip W pretty sure you're wrong about that. They weren't abandoned. If so, they wouldn't have cared about coming back to blow them up to keep ISIS out. If they supposedly abandoned them, they'd have just let ISIS have them. Why not? They gave up all responsibility for them, according to you.
Irvin Hoover says who? You a GM service tech?
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The hood looks very flimsy. Is it made of plastic or fiberglass? I looks like the engine could be destroyed by small arms fire.
I joined the National Guard and for most of my career, I had recon duties. The M151 jeep was small, but quiet. It was hard to get stuck, but when it did, it was often possible to get it free with the strength of the crew, maybe in extreme cases with some help from a second jeep. The problem was that it did not carry much cargo, and recon with a trailer is dicey if you have to turn around in a hurry.
The HMMWV is larger, noisier, and the way things ended up, I still found myself towing a trailer on recon more than once. It's bigger size and lousy visibility makes it a lot harder to backup or turn around in a hurry. The HMMWV is a better off road vehicle than the M880 s it replaced, but I would have preferred to keep the CUCV. It never should have replaced the jeep as a Scout/Command vehicle.
The replacement looks to be even larger. Sometimes survivability depends on stealth and nimbleness, and not being their when the sewage hits the fan; the jeep remains better for those jobs. We need a new jeep, maybe a couple of inches wider, and definitely about a foot longer.
Besides needing a quieter scout vehicle, if you are on recon, it helps to be able to hear and be more in touch with the surroundings. Hiding behind armor may fend off light ammo (but not armor piercing heavier calibers,) but it definitely creates a sense deficit about what is going on outside the vehicle. The military these days is so focused on zero casualties, something that is never going to happen, that they create other issues.
Hate to tell you, but say that to the guys who were in Mogadishu, or anyone who has been hit by an IED.
Delon Duvenage these are essentially lighter and more manoeuvrable, while being better armoured.
Delon Duvenage *they are meant to be heavier in the first place, all the up armoured humvees were underpowered and the chassis was nor body was not designed for that much weight
Delon Duvenage weight does no determine what terrain can be crossed, the chassis does, and this chassis and body were designed *in the first place* to have a considerable amount of armour, the engine and drivetrain are also designed in the first place to support a vehicle of this weight.
Delon Duvenage the German tanks got bogged down because nothing could have crossed that terrain, same in Angola, the JLTV is not made to cross everything, but it can cross rocky terrain in Afghanistan, as well as fairly muddy fields and go through rivers, I never said it was impossible to get stuck, but it offers better protection on a chassis that was designed for the weight
The US government wouldn't be buying these things if they didn't plan on being in Iraq/Afghanistan for a long time.
False, future wars/encounters
You realize the military doesn't only order equipment when they are in a war, right? They need to stay prepared.
You realize we will be in iraq Afghanistan a long time
uh oh
made for durability but cant be put on the handbrake for a while or what? whats the reason for those blocks in front of and behind the wheels?
Ok I get it, they are good, but where can I get one?
Patrick Logsdon Walmart bro
2019 I ain’t here of them yet when
4:16 i have some experience working on cars and all i have to say about this is NOPE can't fix this in the field if it breaks down gotta have a whole truckload of tools
Yes, it can be fixed, depending on what breaks.
The suspension, axle and rack n pinion to the locknhub is still vulnerable.
I bet the exhaust pipe is vulnerable as well
The crew is protected. They can't be replaced; parts & vehicles can be replaced. If entire vehicle was protected it would weigh 30 tons or so.
When are the LAV25s going on sale to the civilian market?
Still love the Humvees
What is the difference between the M-ATV and JLTV? They look almost the same
As much as I love the old ones they are very vulnerable to rpg and mines plus they slow the new ones look better to and are far better protected plus the old ones had a good long run will still see them with MP's as well
Always wonderd what if they shot its tyres
Seriously a robot voice?
Is it come with the lift kit and the nice tires
Did he just say Gale Banks? Nice!!! Finally our service men are getting what they need.
The windshield and overall front looks like a stormtrooper helmet
In Iraq and Afghanistan the Americans bought a lot of South African Casper mine resistant medium trucks that were combat proven in the 23 year war in Angola where the Soviets were finally stopped at the battle of the Lomba river in 1988. The Casper formed the basis for the US Rhino medium armoured truck.
Looks like a Bow Tie on the grille...😎😎😎
looks like the front end is pretty flimsy..a sniper bullet to the engine does it?
Yeah no , I don't think so
Sadly no, the designers aren’t that stupid.
Even if it will penetrate the radiator, which may happen since sniper bullets has a good speed, engine will work for a few more kilometers.
Does this new vehicle give as good a protection as the Humber.
HUMVEE is my #1 Dream Car...but still expensive in Europe
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No matter how much the HUMVEE is, my passion is the old and reliable HUMVEE
Us military uses thousands of jeeps today and has alot of regular old pickups. Hummers will be around bases for decades
That shit is a Monster compare to the Humvee. Now imagine it customized equipt with some 24' on it with Lambo doors lifts. 8 12inch sub in the back... woooop sweet baby ride.
Whats the vehicle on the right of the JLTV named
Will my category B licence be sufficient to drive it?
Higher center of mass than Humvee safer ?
I thought the MRAP was replacing the Humvee has that changed?
See the size of the hummvee? The JLTV can lower itself profile to being just slightly taller than that. That’s freaking epic!
Start video at 4:26
Can I get one with a .50 on the back?
Which is cooler matv jltv or humvee
Because they have realized just what a fucking deathtrap the humv really is!
Will there be a 50. Cal on top?
we need to give money to weird al so he can afford one of them but solid gold
They should have never stopped using the Jeep
damn motor t is about to be the safest mos in the marine corps
see a problem with the doors the ring they have at the handle i see in many vid a horseshoe can be dropped into them and lock the doors from the outside preventing exitting from the inside
Walter Smith some of them have a back exit as well as roof exits and they would have to be sleeping or something to let that happen.
It will be nice to see lifted truck with nice tires in military
Anyone know what those red and blue hook ups on the front and rear are for?
ISAFMobius18 Those are gladhands, they're used to supply air to a trailer, or if a vehicle with air brakes is being towed, etc.
If arnold schwarzenegger see it he will say "give me one of those i want ittttt"
im confused the thing at the beginning said the range was 400 miles but in the interview he said it was 300 miles.
It doesn't matter as long tax money goes to chevy.
Looks awesome!!!🇺🇸
It should have got a Cummins, instead of a duracrap
I normally like chevy's but i have to agree
Cummins engines over heat
Maybe now we should focus on a vehicle that can resist a rocket or missile.
Anthony Brezil Not possible.
I don't think that's possible
Anthony Brezil Even tanks can't do that.
venator5 - APS = Active Protection System starting to enter service in many armies.
or focus on a vehicle that actually runs and does not need a new engine every 1000 miles, this is caused by that the military butheads are running hummvies on kerosene instead of diesel
The reason is that the General in charge of the change was bribed with a multi million dollar salary on the board of directors when he retires from the Army. That's how the Military-Industrial complex works.
Bigger and more complicated they are more fuel and maintenance they need.
Because This Costs More
I mean, it's a bigger vehicle with more in it. Why wouldn't it cost more?
Did you watch the video? The new vehicle is smaller and lighter.
More powerful engine for better performance whilst carrying sufficient protection, the up armoured Humvees were originally designed to be lightweight, with so many armour upgrades the engine can't cope, even with engine replacements and improvements, this new platform is modular as hell as well.
The cost will drop, especially as production ramps up and other countries order it.
frank ertolacci are you serious? The humvee wont even guarantee you survival from 9mm rounds.
Humvee doesn’t protect well against IEDs.
Humvee all with wider rear track than front track bodyworks | 0.7g the lowest traction, extreme tail flick, extreme slide, 20-100 l/100km, over 100 l/km by use 0-120 km/hour maximum on all curve straight circuits.
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The killer argument is this:
The armor's weight of the HMMWV squashes its suspension, leaving litte range for the wheel to traverse.
Most naturally, having changed the requirments so drastically, to incorporate effective armor,
necessitates a new vehicular concept.
hi guys what color is that humvee?
but will it protect our soldiers when it runs over an iad and it explodes?
Should’ve put the new dodge engine in it
Good model army cars....
Coming to a U.S. city near you.
It's amazing how stupid you fuckers are, capitalism rewards the qualities which are associated with evolutionary FAILURES, not winners, so if you're winning in the US, you're contributing to our demise. Capitalism drives us to act like parasites, we're destroying our host, and we don't have another one to move on to. In nature, it's either adapt or die, and you morons can only ridicule those who are trying to adapt, it's pathetic.
I bet hotpocket drives a massive brodozer around, just so he can make sure that he uses as much oil as possible so he can support his terrorist buddies in the middle east.
idontcare80 ehm most capitalists right now are betting on space colonization and wishing to find a new "host" to bless it with some post industrial consumerist lifestyle!!! either way you can see the cracks of that specific economic trend start to show up. you can't maintain an economic system based on debt. (unless of course you can convince the government to let Hawaii and most the south and eastern US coast to rot with their annual natural cataclysms).
Go Hizle TO USE AGAINST ALL CIVILIAN POPULATION.
Only if you're inciting a war.
You know it really makes you feel safe when your government patrols your city with military vehicles hence the sarcasm... i live in a town with 15,000 people, our police have a armored military vehicle never been used because we no crime that needs a military aromored vehicle.... please stop giving these to police departments
Now it just needs a gauss cannon
The HUMVEES were not built to be uparmored and are basically shot.