I agree but it is demonstrable that assuming dispersion remains the same it makes it easier to score if you have a 9 iron in instead of a 7 iron. It's the tiger effect
@@cthompson8405 How many 15-16 HCPs do you know swinging 115mph? 🤨 Dispersion was a bit ehh but was much better by the end of the fitting, which is the whole point bud.
Great job under the bright lights Andrew! I always geek out on a top notch fitter like Ian doing his thing. Looking forward to more of this fitting series!
Kudos to Andrew - Can't be easy to bring a great swing into a You Tube set for all to witness and critique. Well done. I play off the same hcp as he does and I get nerves just watching let alone getting filmed.
I find it amazing that someone can take 70 (or more) swings with driver at FULL SPEED and still hit it that good towards the end. 2.4 handicap and I can barely hit 70 balls total, let alone 70 drivers. Another great fit and these are the videos from TXG that I love watching.
He has an impressive move and plenty of speed. I think some of his stability issues are from him wearing flat Jordans and not lacing them. There’s no way his feet aren’t losing stability, affecting the consistency of his strike. I wish he had tied his shoes, or better yet had a more stable platform.
Ian, I see an MOI matching machine there! I used to fit and build clubs and for me it was the only way to build clubs properly. Swing Weight isnt a scientific method of measurment. We see pros sticking lead tape on their shorter irons to increase the SW because it feels too light. This is becasue D4 through a set isnt a feel, MOI is. I'd love to see you do a video on MOI fitting with irons. While I accept its not for everyone, I beleive that most iron shaft fittings feel better when MOI is in the right range. IDEA: Driver with shaft A and Shaft B. SW the same. Driver with shaft A and Shaft B. Moi the same. Drive with Shaft A in Regular and X flex SW the same vs MOI the same. I feel this would dive into what feel really is on a golf club. I'm convinced MOI matching is the only way to build clubs properly!
That was a lot of work moving a plethora of pieces of the puzzle around then putting them together to make the nuances of Andrew’s swing come together effectively. Softening up the negative effects of some of his misses was a job well done. Getting his miss left with a slightly closed club face to not pull left and down out of control (even with just 1,700rpm of backspin) was impressive.
I wish that you We do more fittings like that It is so interesting On how you dial in a driver for somebody to make it perfect. Keep the good content coming. Hope you and your family have a great thanksgiving !!
So, I'll see you next year when I don't have to pay off the wedding and I can buy some new clubs! I love watching the improvements with these fittings. It's amazing how much changes with every small tweak
You guys are so professional and awesome . I'm going to buy a new driver this year after playing with the same club for many many yeas. I just hope that the fitters at the PGA superstore in my hometown of Orlando are somewhere close to the fitters you guys are. Thanks for the content as always .
Tsr3 what more is there to say. Crazy how some people are so sensitive to shafts and others have little to no impact on their swing. Always entertaining lads
Fascinating watching how the different shafts had such an affect. I'm am going for a fit next week, probably Ping G430 10k but now so tempted to try the TSR3.
Guys, I’m a lower handicap but a slower swinger. I’ve been to multiple fittings and they always say they can’t do anything for me unless I swing faster. I don’t agree, I’d love to see you guys fit someone like me to show people how crucial a fitting can be to gaining distance
I have a Cobra F9 driver and a Cobra Aerojet driver. I hit them both about the same. 10 yd fade and my miss is a huge slice. Because I am much more accurate with my three wood I use it off almost all par 4 and par 5 tees. I also hit 10 yd fade with it but hit a lot more fairways. My three wood is Cobra flyz set at 13*. My driver's are both set at 8*. My clubhead speed is 100-105. I don't get the length I use to get. I am 59 yrs old 6'2" 300#. I have had six low back surgeries and right total knee replacement. The knee replacement seems to have cost me distance. I am right handed so that knee replacement is power side.
Boys... This was a great start your new series and a terrific example of customizing a Driver and the Fingerprinting of a Fitting... Brillant result and I am getting over the disappointment of it not being "ME" ...... Keep us old Guys who Favour The "Heel" as the sweet spot in mind !!! LOL looking forward to the next episode... Cheers, Stuart
Would love this, Went for a driver fitting today, no drivers helped, minus attack angle and spinning the ball between 3000/3500 rpm is robbing me distance, need lessons he said 😌
I was struggling with a two way miss. Made a conscious effort to take it back on the inside and swing in to out. Now hitting the high draw pretty consistently
I love his street look with the hat on backwards and Jordan’s. This is the guy you want to play with at your country club. Will typically have a bottle of bourbon on him and a joint look!
I would recommend the following to the guy being fit -- Do not golf in high top shoes! it restricts ankle mobility and that does make a huge difference, especially if you are getting fit!
Good fitters 90% of the time get it very close on their first suggestion...as Ian said...back to the beginning and just play around with fine details and boom!!! #nailedit lol
You're absolutely right. Seasoned fitters have seen a lot of swings and know what can work and why. We also know that everyone is on a pitch count, so we always go for what will be what we think would improve your game the quickest... and then, try more and fine tune from there!
Is Andrew not the perfect example of why amateur golfers shouldn't tinker? Get properly fit then work with the equipment you've been fit for. Having so many shaft options at home is just asking for trouble, have an off day on course and next thing you're at home changing shafts wondering if that was the reason for having an off day. Crazy
Its wild how much swingweight affects some golfers. My brother can hit anything and his numbers stay the same. Me? At D1 Im a full 8-10 yards shorter than my normal D4 all the way through the bag.
Man i want a proper club fitting in my clubs our golf shops never put the time in they dont have different shafts or different iron shafts longer or shorter to try . I always feel like i could get something better
was fit at callaway fitting center in richmond bc for a pershing low torque shat 3.4. played it until last year with amazing results.I had shaft creep last year and had the pro reglue and lo and behold i came out with a pershing ys6+ blue shaft and my original was black? I hit it descent so didn't complain but i cracked the face last yr after 14yrs playing and am trying to replace head and club. Carry was 240 with 260 ,270 roll out . Bought a callaway epic max with 9 with av 55 shaft now i am going 210 carry ?
Does this guy change/tinker more/less than Ian 😂 This is soooooooo good but I'd imagine "tinkerers" are the bane of a fitter's existence one bad swing and suddenly the fitter was an idiot.
Titleist sued Kirkland when the Kirkland balls initially came out in 2016 since they were so similar to ProV1s. Was settled and Kirkland stopped making the 4 piece balls that were so similar to ProV1s. Balls available no at Costco are a 3 piece ball.
Hi Ian. My driver spin is around 1900 chs is 104 and I hit it pretty straight. But everyone says 2500 is best spin numbers so confused. Getting fit next year and don't want a driver to go shorter cos of too much spin.
I've been having a similar block fade creeping in. Did you end up with C3 - H2 on the surefit? I've been on D1 - N for a while, might have to give that tweak a shot!
Ian I need your advice. I am 6,4" and wondering what shaft length I should have on my driver, and how much should I add on my irons? Used to play a 45" driver shaft, but switched to 46" last year and saw improvments. But could I go futher when I am my size?
Hi friend. It's impossible to know what length your irons need to be without actually seeing you swing and going through a fitting. We're thrilled to hear that you've seen improvements with your longer driver though. You could always go longer if you'd want to experiment, but keep in mind the governing bodies of golf (USGA and R&A) have both limited the max length of a driver to 46''.
I have kept my 909 D3 in the bag since 2010 because the improvement has only been about +5 yards of distance and dispersion decrease of 2 yards. Is that about the performance increase you would expect to see on a driver that old? Or think it is more because of poor fittings?
Why give a fitting to a person that has admitted to just putting in a shaft on a wim. You’ll give him shaft head combo that works for him to just go and put a different shaft in it maybe a week later
Ian/Mikey. Why was NOT Callaway in the mix ? It is awesome and more Distance Titleist will be. Also with his little Slice the AutoFlex would May bring it Back ( gold finish AutoFlex ) looks better. Lefty me has Callaway Epic Max LS with auto and that setup has straighten my baby SLICE plus kept me with the Young Pups. I hope Titleist is not putting pressure on you Two.
i wish u’d fit someone that doesn’t swing 115+ cause 99.9% of ur viewers won’t, this is useless (but ya looks “cool”) the more guys u can show hitting around 100 swing would actually be useful, then again maybe ur clientele are mostly scratch rich snobs 🤷🏻♂️
What am I watching here? A grown man with his shoes untied swinging for the fences then after what amounts to a very unscientific small sampling of drivers a decision is made that costs one thousand dollars.
This guy is an absolute golf nut headcase and I love it.
"you are not going to get to scratch by hitting it longer, you are going to get there by missing it better" - Ian Fraser
I agree but it is demonstrable that assuming dispersion remains the same it makes it easier to score if you have a 9 iron in instead of a 7 iron. It's the tiger effect
5-6... more like 15-16 with that swing/speed/strike pattern.
@@cthompson8405 How many 15-16 HCPs do you know swinging 115mph? 🤨 Dispersion was a bit ehh but was much better by the end of the fitting, which is the whole point bud.
Ian noting the irregular pressure movement in the feet and relating it to the strike shows why he is as respected as a fitter as he is. 🙌
A 2 day full bag fit with Ian is going to be a bday present to myself for '24!!! I can't wait.
A boy can dream, am I right ?
i wish u’d fit someone that doesn’t swing 115+ cause 99.9% of ur viewers won’t, this is useless (but ya looks “cool”)
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Great job under the bright lights Andrew! I always geek out on a top notch fitter like Ian doing his thing. Looking forward to more of this fitting series!
Kudos to Andrew - Can't be easy to bring a great swing into a You Tube set for all to witness and critique. Well done. I play off the same hcp as he does and I get nerves just watching let alone getting filmed.
Andrew done great. Definitely not easy at all.
Love hearing Ian talk fitting
I find it amazing that someone can take 70 (or more) swings with driver at FULL SPEED and still hit it that good towards the end. 2.4 handicap and I can barely hit 70 balls total, let alone 70 drivers. Another great fit and these are the videos from TXG that I love watching.
My man’s stout that’s for sure, was rippin it
He has an impressive move and plenty of speed. I think some of his stability issues are from him wearing flat Jordans and not lacing them. There’s no way his feet aren’t losing stability, affecting the consistency of his strike. I wish he had tied his shoes, or better yet had a more stable platform.
Get him some pro SL carbons w/ BOA 😮💨
Ian, I see an MOI matching machine there! I used to fit and build clubs and for me it was the only way to build clubs properly. Swing Weight isnt a scientific method of measurment. We see pros sticking lead tape on their shorter irons to increase the SW because it feels too light. This is becasue D4 through a set isnt a feel, MOI is.
I'd love to see you do a video on MOI fitting with irons. While I accept its not for everyone, I beleive that most iron shaft fittings feel better when MOI is in the right range.
IDEA:
Driver with shaft A and Shaft B. SW the same. Driver with shaft A and Shaft B. Moi the same.
Drive with Shaft A in Regular and X flex SW the same vs MOI the same.
I feel this would dive into what feel really is on a golf club. I'm convinced MOI matching is the only way to build clubs properly!
More of these please. Would love to see a fit for someone more in the 15-20 handicap range.
Love real fittings with real people... Could watch these all day long. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it Richard.
That was a lot of work moving a plethora of pieces of the puzzle around then putting them together to make the nuances of Andrew’s swing come together effectively. Softening up the negative effects of some of his misses was a job well done. Getting his miss left with a slightly closed club face to not pull left and down out of control (even with just 1,700rpm of backspin) was impressive.
Real enjoyed this one. Great job Andrew
#golfclap well done Andrew, well done.
More of these boys. Love seeing Fraz back in the saddle! Great Vid
Great fitting, love the info provided. Well done, Class.
This is one of the best videos Ian's and Mikees knowlage is unbelieveable they you dialed Andrew in loved it
Great in depth fitting.
An Ian + Mikey fitting! Awesome. If only TXG wasn't in Canada (for me thats a treck)...great video!
Worth the trip. Toronto is a great city. Make a weekend of it.
Great Video! Kudos to Andrew, was a natural on camera. Looking forward to more in this series.
Best in the business. I learn something every time I watch a fitting like this.
This was your best video in a very long time
Ian is the goat! Gotta be a dream come true for any golfer to get fitted by him.
Amazing fitting, shows you how shafts make so much a difference
These are your best videos!! Need more fittings!!!
I wish that you We do more fittings like that It is so interesting On how you dial in a driver for somebody to make it perfect. Keep the good content coming. Hope you and your family have a great thanksgiving !!
So, I'll see you next year when I don't have to pay off the wedding and I can buy some new clubs! I love watching the improvements with these fittings. It's amazing how much changes with every small tweak
Great video. I have a Sim2 Max and am having similar issues.. now i have some things to work on!
That was a treat!
Would love to be the next one to do this! Love the videos as always
Wish you boys would come to San Antonio Tx i need to get fitted for irons here after the holidays
You could always come to Toronto that certainly more doable than us coming to Texas.
You guys are so professional and awesome . I'm going to buy a new driver this year after playing with the same club for many many yeas. I just hope that the fitters at the PGA superstore in my hometown of Orlando are somewhere close to the fitters you guys are. Thanks for the content as always .
Tsr3 what more is there to say. Crazy how some people are so sensitive to shafts and others have little to no impact on their swing. Always entertaining lads
👍🏼
Fascinating watching how the different shafts had such an affect. I'm am going for a fit next week, probably Ping G430 10k but now so tempted to try the TSR3.
As a neutral swinger also, I pretty much play for straight. But have find it easier to play a cut instead of a draw. And play my best playing cut.
TSR3 is so good... This kind of convinced me I need to move into that head vs TSR2 for the moving weight
That movable weight track can make a difference!
Guys, I’m a lower handicap but a slower swinger. I’ve been to multiple fittings and they always say they can’t do anything for me unless I swing faster. I don’t agree, I’d love to see you guys fit someone like me to show people how crucial a fitting can be to gaining distance
They need you to swing faster so you can miss it's more so they can then fix you. Lol
I have a Cobra F9 driver and a Cobra Aerojet driver. I hit them both about the same. 10 yd fade and my miss is a huge slice. Because I am much more accurate with my three wood I use it off almost all par 4 and par 5 tees. I also hit 10 yd fade with it but hit a lot more fairways. My three wood is Cobra flyz set at 13*. My driver's are both set at 8*. My clubhead speed is 100-105. I don't get the length I use to get.
I am 59 yrs old 6'2" 300#. I have had six low back surgeries and right total knee replacement. The knee replacement seems to have cost me distance. I am right handed so that knee replacement is power side.
What a unit.
Andrew was a great candidate for a fitting. High-level Contant.
Great video! Love the actual talk. My father in law through club fitting was a gimmick and starting to see how it really benefits a player!
Seeing is believing for fittings. Let us know if you'd like to come into a Club Champion yourself! Thanks for the comment Christian.
Boys... This was a great start your new series and a terrific example of customizing a Driver and the Fingerprinting of a Fitting... Brillant result and I am getting over the disappointment of it not being "ME" ...... Keep us old Guys who Favour The "Heel" as the sweet spot in mind !!! LOL looking forward to the next episode... Cheers, Stuart
Would love this, Went for a driver fitting today, no drivers helped, minus attack angle and spinning the ball between 3000/3500 rpm is robbing me distance, need lessons he said 😌
Nice 👍🏻
Brilliant fit well done Ian
This guy is gonna be scratch in NO time, brilliant video
I was struggling with a two way miss. Made a conscious effort to take it back on the inside and swing in to out. Now hitting the high draw pretty consistently
I love his street look with the hat on backwards and Jordan’s. This is the guy you want to play with at your country club. Will typically have a bottle of bourbon on him and a joint look!
lol the classic " over tinkerer" guy..
I would recommend the following to the guy being fit -- Do not golf in high top shoes! it restricts ankle mobility and that does make a huge difference, especially if you are getting fit!
Favorite type of content, id love more of that ! Now i want an accra shaft that wont fit me probably 😂
Good fitters 90% of the time get it very close on their first suggestion...as Ian said...back to the beginning and just play around with fine details and boom!!! #nailedit lol
You're absolutely right. Seasoned fitters have seen a lot of swings and know what can work and why. We also know that everyone is on a pitch count, so we always go for what will be what we think would improve your game the quickest... and then, try more and fine tune from there!
Is Andrew not the perfect example of why amateur golfers shouldn't tinker? Get properly fit then work with the equipment you've been fit for. Having so many shaft options at home is just asking for trouble, have an off day on course and next thing you're at home changing shafts wondering if that was the reason for having an off day. Crazy
Yea but it’s fun. And if all you have is golf galaxy or something I can fit myself better than they can
This was a GREAT video, thanks guys!
Really fun one to watch
such a great video, great content gentlemen, I tip my hat in your direction. Best on TH-cam by a mile
Love this series..Hoeping to see a higher handicapper next 👍
Its wild how much swingweight affects some golfers. My brother can hit anything and his numbers stay the same. Me? At D1 Im a full 8-10 yards shorter than my normal D4 all the way through the bag.
Awesome!
He could benefit from slowing down his swing a bit. Aggressive swinger that gets a touch out of control but I could completely wrong.
Man i want a proper club fitting in my clubs our golf shops never put the time in they dont have different shafts or different iron shafts longer or shorter to try . I always feel like i could get something better
Great series
Y'all call it a block fade but all I see is a slice. Love the content
I have a Sim 2 in the bag still and it would take a lot to get it out of the bag
Ian, u mentioned changing tee height and moving hands down, but you never mentioned why. I'm interested as I have a lot of the same swing issues .
Lol. Good thing he went to Ian.
Surprised they didn’t give the TR Blue 6x a go!!? Awesome shaft
Love it boys!
was fit at callaway fitting center in richmond bc for a pershing low torque shat 3.4. played it until last year with amazing results.I had shaft creep last year and had the pro reglue and lo and behold i came out with a pershing ys6+ blue shaft and my original was black? I hit it descent so didn't complain but i cracked the face last yr after 14yrs playing and am trying to replace head and club. Carry was 240 with 260 ,270 roll out . Bought a callaway epic max with 9 with av 55 shaft now i am going 210 carry ?
Does this guy change/tinker more/less than Ian 😂 This is soooooooo good but I'd imagine "tinkerers" are the bane of a fitter's existence one bad swing and suddenly the fitter was an idiot.
Ian you gotta be one of the best fitters. Where are you located?
I need an Ian full bag fit, and did I mention the Frasers are my cousins!
Titleist sued Kirkland when the Kirkland balls initially came out in 2016 since they were so similar to ProV1s. Was settled and Kirkland stopped making the 4 piece balls that were so similar to ProV1s. Balls available no at Costco are a 3 piece ball.
I’d love to come up for a fitting one day to do a putter fitting. Any chance we can make that happen
Wedge fitting ar the PULPIT!!!
Hi Ian. My driver spin is around 1900 chs is 104 and I hit it pretty straight. But everyone says 2500 is best spin numbers so confused. Getting fit next year and don't want a driver to go shorter cos of too much spin.
I've been having a similar block fade creeping in. Did you end up with C3 - H2 on the surefit? I've been on D1 - N for a while, might have to give that tweak a shot!
Wait…. Yall located in sauga?!! Never knew
Where are you guys, would love to come in for fitting?
Do you guys get commisson if you sell Accra?
Sign me up for the wedge fit…
Ian I need your advice. I am 6,4" and wondering what shaft length I should have on my driver, and how much should I add on my irons? Used to play a 45" driver shaft, but switched to 46" last year and saw improvments. But could I go futher when I am my size?
Hi friend. It's impossible to know what length your irons need to be without actually seeing you swing and going through a fitting. We're thrilled to hear that you've seen improvements with your longer driver though. You could always go longer if you'd want to experiment, but keep in mind the governing bodies of golf (USGA and R&A) have both limited the max length of a driver to 46''.
I have kept my 909 D3 in the bag since 2010 because the improvement has only been about +5 yards of distance and dispersion decrease of 2 yards. Is that about the performance increase you would expect to see on a driver that old? Or think it is more because of poor fittings?
I’d expect better gains than that.
Ian
Thank you! The search continues. Might have to trek to your neck of the woods
Incredible speed he has, but almost like you guys are always pushing people towards the TSR.
Immediately starts pricing plane tickets to Canada 😂
He must be the best 5 handicap in the world
Might be a true 5 vs a casual 5. Tournament rounds with pins and speed vs casual rounds are different beast.
6 handicap!?, must be because of double bogeys or worse on a couple of holes. Would hate to play him in match play or scramble.
Why give a fitting to a person that has admitted to just putting in a shaft on a wim. You’ll give him shaft head combo that works for him to just go and put a different shaft in it maybe a week later
Is there anyone who doesn’t hit it 300 yards? 😂
Me
Ian/Mikey. Why was NOT Callaway in the mix ? It is awesome and more Distance Titleist will be. Also with his little Slice the AutoFlex would May bring it Back ( gold finish AutoFlex ) looks better. Lefty me has Callaway Epic Max LS with auto and that setup has straighten my baby SLICE plus kept me with the Young Pups. I hope Titleist is not putting pressure on you Two.
this has to be a comical joke for 20 min right? a skit? lol :)
A 5? He has a big fade, or am i missing something?
i wish u’d fit someone that doesn’t swing 115+ cause 99.9% of ur viewers won’t, this is useless (but ya looks “cool”) the more guys u can show hitting around 100 swing would actually be useful, then again maybe ur clientele are mostly scratch rich snobs 🤷🏻♂️
What am I watching here? A grown man with his shoes untied swinging for the fences then after what amounts to a very unscientific small sampling of drivers a decision is made that costs one thousand dollars.