@@xblindfolded I'm saying making content with content in mind is different to focusing solely on the fitting and not worrying about the video outcome. So following my timeline, my rules, my club suggestions, my words, my instincts that have helped so many tour players across the world and having zero regard for an algorithm or a camera. Based on your comment you won't like that but it's just facts.
Looking after young golfers so they can develope at the right tkme and pace so they can stay positive and focused! Good job. Great to see these promising young golfers coming through.
@@CoreyMU33 no it doesn't 🤣 Radar that tracks the ball. Feels like I might have to re-visit my launch monitor educational vid. Trust me, I use Launch Monitors everyday I'm not gonna go into a relationship with a brand unless it absolutely works and can be trusted in terms of the data.
Imagine getting soft dissed by @@trottiegolfOuf. What a cool format of video. Maybe some data on the screen would be cool? I feel like data shown on screen during fittings /sim videos hit much harder for us golf geeks!
Would love to actually hear the name/models/weights of the shafts and why/how you arrived at those decisions during the fitting and not just at the end. You said "moving to a shaft that is a little softer in the tip". I'm wondering what you started with and what you went to to get that. I can see Ventus, but is it a TR -> Stock? Weight change? etc
Any ideas on what 5 wood shaft he’s got in the mini? Anything done to adjust swing weight? I have a mini that comes in and out of the bag for a more controlled driving iron but maybe throwing a shorter shaft in the mini would bring in some more control and still let me get it further down the fairway…
Awesome fit Trottie! After hearing 5w in a mini, am I crazy owning a not playing driver day go-to, counter-weighed in-grip, axe of a 46" mini Driver (11.5 deg std, heavy wt. back)? (165mph driver ball speed, 7-10hc) What is it about the mini that helps tighten the left and right dispersion is it the bulge and roll? is it more curvature than a regular driver? Thanks for the amazing content!
I enjoy the feel of the ventus black but not surprisingly have a tough time turning it over. Would you then go to a ventus red/tr red which has a similar feeling in the butt as the black but a softer tip? Or would the blue be what you would hand your customers next?
Trottie, what does going softer in the driver shaft do to lower spin on the miss? i play tr black 7x in driver @ 45 (miss is a over cut) and have thought about going with the tr blue 7x.
Yea I'd like that play but tip the blue 1.25" dependent on your speed and keep the swing weight up a little (D4) so you can benefit from the softer (all relative to black) tip and then become a little more aware of the face. Losing the massive cut / reducing the over cut. For me I'd go velocore blue too not the TR but that's just me
@@kiefnerlewis2176 I personally haven't hit them but I've fit speed players with them. Diamana is always stable and reliable, try them for your characteristics but I'd say you're in with one of the leading shafts for sure.
Do you know Mason's coach at all Trottie? I'm just curious his opinion on changing his driver swing path since I've watched most of his videos (Porzak golf).
So mason goes driver, mini driver, 3 iron? Is the driver set up for fade and mini for draw? Is the 3 iron like the set or a utility? I'm thinking of maybe doing a very short, quite heavy 13 degree 2 wood as a second tee club. Sound like mason has something similar? Saw Drew Cooper doing this, 13 degrees at 41 inches. Can even be used for stingers.
Mason is down and left. With his speed and those delivery numbers when you hold the face to the path you hit cuts. He doesn't have to set the clubs up either way just keep delivering the club consistently. I can't remember his driving iron was in terms of model but as you can tell it goes well BUT it will with the delivery of the club that he has.
so without technology how do you know if you're spinning the ball a ton or you aren't? I notice you can tell it's spinny or not without looking at the data.
Peak Descent angle First Bounce launch window Sound Shape I've been looking at ball flight longer than launch monitors were a thing. Like all things it takes time but do it enough and certainly on tour and you can call numbers
20+ years ago, this guy would be playing baseball or football. Now, these athletes choose golf because few other sports offer 10-20-30+ year careers. In the past, even scrawny weasels could win on tour. But them days are gone.
@@thewraithize true, but I bet a guy who can carry 300+ and has a short game is going to have a long, successful career. Bryson is the poster boy for this type of player. The advantage of wedges into most greens is massive.
The wind always blows into the players' face at the kingdom so that is pretty good for sea level and into the wind. Forget about optimization because on tour they look for the ability to repeatably put the ball in play. Plenty of guys on tour want the spin to not only stabilize the flight but to also not run through fairways.
@@RCGolf But can't Trottie just normalize the numbers like Trackman or does fullswing not offer that feature? My point is if he's at 190 ball, his club is probably 126-130 and carrying it only 310 is inefficient.
@@eddycangolf you can normalize on FS. Your observation is actually fair but we're mid season and working with a guy who's down and left to control flight. That's my point about easing the left and down and going a bit softer. The Gainz are HUGE
A lot of this conversation from Trottie is talking out his a$$. "Flailing out to the right is ideal"??? Where'd that come from? "Backspin causes the ball flight to straighten"??? What!?!
He was injured through college. Great TH-cam character for sure. Tour player prospect - well you need speed, consistency when delivering the club and then the ability to score. He certainly has a lot of the components that make a modern day tour player, with an ever growing brand SOOOOOO kinda fair to say that. Not many college guys have their brand foundations in place like Mason.
@@garinoroark2005 from memory I think he was in black and I went to blue. A low launch trapper guy like that you wanna go a fraction softer. Just proceed with caution when it's mid season. Happy to report Mason is playing great.
@@jimmythorpe65 Yea I can't be throwing banter at guys when they reach out for a serious fitting. Obv folks like DOD and Riggs etc that's a different vibe but Mason came with a serious request for advice so I was in full focus mode. Amazing that guys spotted that, I wasn't sure if people even cared. This one is defo aimed at the more serious approach to fitting.
@@trottiegolfLoved this one and would watch even more of them like it. There to get the job done, help Mason, and teach us a thing or two (or more) along the way.
@@MattPisching it's certainly stuff I like doing, in addition to the banter stuff. Obv had 20 yrs on tour at the very serious end so nice to sometimes offer stuff up that's a bit more chill.
I appreciate you're realness saying (after a driver fitting) that the real answer is in spending time on his wedges.
Oh man, to spend a couple hours with Trottie on the range.
The long hugs from behind are unforgettable! Glad someone feels the same!
You can if you've got enough money to throw at them. Anything is possible with enough money 😂.
The divot pattern at the beginning of the video holy smokes
I just love that Trottie is extremely genuine and wants the best for Mason. That's why Trottie is the best in the business
Yea when it's a real fitting you're gonna get the real me 👊
@@trottiegolf Best fitter around! These videos I think are some of my favorite my man
@@Chardcastle28 cheers fella
@@trottiegolf So you're saying you fake fittings?
@@xblindfolded I'm saying making content with content in mind is different to focusing solely on the fitting and not worrying about the video outcome. So following my timeline, my rules, my club suggestions, my words, my instincts that have helped so many tour players across the world and having zero regard for an algorithm or a camera.
Based on your comment you won't like that but it's just facts.
Loved the straight informational fitting of this video.
Looking after young golfers so they can develope at the right tkme and pace so they can stay positive and focused! Good job. Great to see these promising young golfers coming through.
what a sound off the club
That was my immediate reaction too.
"trottie" - always a great watch and I always look forward to new content drops.
Kids a monster!
Just need 2 hours on the range with trottie would be amazing
Kid’s a beast. When you are at his speed 1/2 a degree of face angle goes a long way literally.
Man I want a fitting like this
Stay tuned to the newsletter as I might have some solutions coming
Not sure anyone can dislike a trott
My Mrs does sometimes 🤣👍
Absolutely brilliant video 👍👍👍. That's like me path left I'm playing a 8deg head hitting between 0 - 2up
Sheeesh! Kid has my back hurting!
Swing goals
This guy have speed!
To be able to have a few hours with Trottie on the range 🤞🏼🙏🏼
great info, Tottie
Mini Driver is amazing! Put a 5 wood shaft in mine and it’s just amazing.
I love Mason's swing so much.
Me too
Very similar to Jake Knapps. A thing of beauty
This is like golf at a subatomic level. The accuracy and repeatability are incredible. What would it be like to be that dialed in?
If Will Kropp and Al Geibeger had a kid it would be this lad, man he pipes it!
🔥🔥🔥
Relief Goosen but a little faster. Very nice
Hit that one quite well
Good athlete
100%
The Kingdom's Trackman Range cries every time Trottie uses the Full Swing launch monitor
Full Swing only ESTIMATES spin too. Not even a legit accurate number which Trackman can actually measure
@@CoreyMU33 no it doesn't 🤣 Radar that tracks the ball. Feels like I might have to re-visit my launch monitor educational vid. Trust me, I use Launch Monitors everyday I'm not gonna go into a relationship with a brand unless it absolutely works and can be trusted in terms of the data.
Imagine getting soft dissed by @@trottiegolfOuf. What a cool format of video. Maybe some data on the screen would be cool? I feel like data shown on screen during fittings /sim videos hit much harder for us golf geeks!
@@trottiegolfdoing fittings with fullswing is a crime 😢
What does he mean by, softer shaft? Just less flex or lower grams?
Would love to actually hear the name/models/weights of the shafts and why/how you arrived at those decisions during the fitting and not just at the end. You said "moving to a shaft that is a little softer in the tip". I'm wondering what you started with and what you went to to get that. I can see Ventus, but is it a TR -> Stock? Weight change? etc
Can you add more tracers? Too blind to see the flight
Any ideas on what 5 wood shaft he’s got in the mini? Anything done to adjust swing weight? I have a mini that comes in and out of the bag for a more controlled driving iron but maybe throwing a shorter shaft in the mini would bring in some more control and still let me get it further down the fairway…
Do you know I can't remember the exact but heavy and short and tipped quite a bit if gonna help.... IF YOU HAVE SPEED
looking cool in yer samba`s trottie
Awesome fit Trottie! After hearing 5w in a mini, am I crazy owning a not playing driver day go-to, counter-weighed in-grip, axe of a 46" mini Driver (11.5 deg std, heavy wt. back)? (165mph driver ball speed, 7-10hc) What is it about the mini that helps tighten the left and right dispersion is it the bulge and roll? is it more curvature than a regular driver? Thanks for the amazing content!
CG location and tee height / attack angle
I enjoy the feel of the ventus black but not surprisingly have a tough time turning it over. Would you then go to a ventus red/tr red which has a similar feeling in the butt as the black but a softer tip? Or would the blue be what you would hand your customers next?
Blue
Trottie, what does going softer in the driver shaft do to lower spin on the miss? i play tr black 7x in driver @ 45 (miss is a over cut) and have thought about going with the tr blue 7x.
Yea I'd like that play but tip the blue 1.25" dependent on your speed and keep the swing weight up a little (D4) so you can benefit from the softer (all relative to black) tip and then become a little more aware of the face. Losing the massive cut / reducing the over cut. For me I'd go velocore blue too not the TR but that's just me
Thanks trottie, the TR Black tipped 1” might just be a little much. I will give the blue a shot and tip it. My swing speed fluctuates between 112-115.
@@kiefnerlewis2176 yea go blue. Especially if you’re seeing Mason tendencies
What are your thoughts on Diamana D+ limited or the new WB? The tip seems a bit softer but with a stable handle.
@@kiefnerlewis2176 I personally haven't hit them but I've fit speed players with them. Diamana is always stable and reliable, try them for your characteristics but I'd say you're in with one of the leading shafts for sure.
Is trottie short or is this guy a giant
Both
@@trottiegolf understandable 👍
Lmfaooo “that’s filth”
Do you know Mason's coach at all Trottie? I'm just curious his opinion on changing his driver swing path since I've watched most of his videos (Porzak golf).
I do not. They can change it but I wouldn't go too drastic mid season
Question is....if he needs so much work on wedges....did he only come in for a Driver fit/Long iron fit,Only?
We recorded some wedge stuff after (not sure we'll air it) as my thought was the exact same. He did well with it to be fair
So mason goes driver, mini driver, 3 iron? Is the driver set up for fade and mini for draw? Is the 3 iron like the set or a utility?
I'm thinking of maybe doing a very short, quite heavy 13 degree 2 wood as a second tee club. Sound like mason has something similar? Saw Drew Cooper doing this, 13 degrees at 41 inches. Can even be used for stingers.
Mason is down and left. With his speed and those delivery numbers when you hold the face to the path you hit cuts. He doesn't have to set the clubs up either way just keep delivering the club consistently. I can't remember his driving iron was in terms of model but as you can tell it goes well BUT it will with the delivery of the club that he has.
so without technology how do you know if you're spinning the ball a ton or you aren't? I notice you can tell it's spinny or not without looking at the data.
When you play enough you can tell 3 ways
Watch the Flight
Feel/strike off the clubface
Swing feel
Peak
Descent angle
First Bounce
launch window
Sound
Shape
I've been looking at ball flight longer than launch monitors were a thing.
Like all things it takes time but do it enough and certainly on tour and you can call numbers
2:40 Yeah, D1 is different.
@@qwaszx2 he was injured through most of college I believe
Kinda disappointing we didn’t get to see more club and ball data
Guy’s a stick
Is he with good good? Needs to leave them and go out on his own asap
He wears Good Good apparel
get a shot tracer
Mr Trot I need a mini driver head 😊 hook me upppppppp
20+ years ago, this guy would be playing baseball or football. Now, these athletes choose golf because few other sports offer 10-20-30+ year careers. In the past, even scrawny weasels could win on tour. But them days are gone.
Agree with some of this but on the same note he probably loves golf. Golfers today are 100% majority athletes now
You can be athletic as you want, but, if you got no short game then it doesn't matter and you might as well just do long drive comps
@@thewraithize true, but I bet a guy who can carry 300+ and has a short game is going to have a long, successful career. Bryson is the poster boy for this type of player. The advantage of wedges into most greens is massive.
@@thewraithizefeel for the short game can be learned overtime tho. speed is much harder to acquire for the average golfer
I felt sorry for the balls watching this!
amen!
🏌🏻MASON! 📈
190 ball and only 310 carry is super inefficient. If this guy learned how to draw it, he'd carry it like 340-350
The wind always blows into the players' face at the kingdom so that is pretty good for sea level and into the wind. Forget about optimization because on tour they look for the ability to repeatably put the ball in play. Plenty of guys on tour want the spin to not only stabilize the flight but to also not run through fairways.
@@RCGolf But can't Trottie just normalize the numbers like Trackman or does fullswing not offer that feature? My point is if he's at 190 ball, his club is probably 126-130 and carrying it only 310 is inefficient.
@@eddycangolf you can normalize on FS. Your observation is actually fair but we're mid season and working with a guy who's down and left to control flight.
That's my point about easing the left and down and going a bit softer.
The Gainz are HUGE
You don't have to draw the ball to reduce spin.
People want golf-ball rollback....Think the equipment might play the biggest role in all this lol Guy launching those to the moon
Stop effing with what works! It is mental, plain and simple...
What happened to Mason? Is he not a goodgood athlete anymore?
Look at his hat.
did you watch the video budd? 😂
He is still a sponsored athlete and wears the apparel, but he doesn't appear in videos often
@@meyerdean8459 Thank you for that clarification.
His shot shape will never work on tour and he was so salty to hear it hahaha
🤣 I didn't say that..... Kaymer got to World #1 with this shape. He's in a great spot.
most of the tour is playing a cut?
@@EmpireofBlack 50/50
A lot of this conversation from Trottie is talking out his a$$. "Flailing out to the right is ideal"??? Where'd that come from? "Backspin causes the ball flight to straighten"??? What!?!
@@pappaflammyboi5799 🤣🤣🤣🤣🍑
Maybe spend a few more years golfing, and then you can come back and delete this comment 😘🤗🤗😘😘
@@iknowuneverasked I've probably golfed more years than you've been alive. 😆🙄
To say “ one of the hottest prospects” is a little of a stretch.. lol maybe in TH-cam golf.. not in legit tour. Good player still
He was injured through college. Great TH-cam character for sure. Tour player prospect - well you need speed, consistency when delivering the club and then the ability to score.
He certainly has a lot of the components that make a modern day tour player, with an ever growing brand SOOOOOO kinda fair to say that.
Not many college guys have their brand foundations in place like Mason.
I feel sorry for the green keeping staff after this fit - perfectly straight rut gouged out of the turf with the 3i.
No way, that is way easier to fix than amateurs just leaving divots all scattershot.
That’s textbook
it is a range when all is said and done & as the guys say. Divots keeps them in a job 🤣
@@trottiegolfsince you said a softer shaft did you go from what it looks like a ventus black to a blue?
@@garinoroark2005 from memory I think he was in black and I went to blue. A low launch trapper guy like that you wanna go a fraction softer. Just proceed with caution when it's mid season. Happy to report Mason is playing great.
This video was kinda hard to watch. There was no connection. A serious Trottie, no laughs no jokes😢. Seemed very frustrating.
🤣 sorry man. This was serious help you improve Trottie opposed to chillin banter Trottie
Still a great video despite no banter, especially for a golf nerd like myself
@@jimmythorpe65 Yea I can't be throwing banter at guys when they reach out for a serious fitting. Obv folks like DOD and Riggs etc that's a different vibe but Mason came with a serious request for advice so I was in full focus mode.
Amazing that guys spotted that, I wasn't sure if people even cared. This one is defo aimed at the more serious approach to fitting.
@@trottiegolfLoved this one and would watch even more of them like it. There to get the job done, help Mason, and teach us a thing or two (or more) along the way.
@@MattPisching it's certainly stuff I like doing, in addition to the banter stuff. Obv had 20 yrs on tour at the very serious end so nice to sometimes offer stuff up that's a bit more chill.