FOLLOWER FITTINGS // 15 Handicap Driver Fit

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  • @theKOOP4773
    @theKOOP4773 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    This one has been my favourite so far. Ian shows his stuff, doesn’t just look at a right miss and give someone a draw head, he understands it at such a deeper level.

    • @djmico0713
      @djmico0713 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed in full. Ian, Mike, and the whole TXG team go so much deeper than just the basics which sets them apart from other fitters. I am sure most fitters we consumers would encounter would see the TSR3 being lower flight and go left and say “we fixed it, let’s move on” A select “better” fitters may take it a step further and move to the Ping but after seeing a couple good ones say “well, you’re striping it with that so all good” Ian wants to confirm after a lot of swings what will still work. This is what they mean when they say the company name changes but they’re still the same 👏🏽

    • @ikaZi84
      @ikaZi84 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@djmico0713 Too bad the rest of the company still sucks at fitting.

  • @thepiratedoc4247
    @thepiratedoc4247 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Love seeing you make a big difference for an average golfer more than making a small difference for an above average golfer. Thank you!

  • @taylorleopold9040
    @taylorleopold9040 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    one of my favorite fittings so far, well done boys

  • @ZackKennedyy
    @ZackKennedyy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    Thanks for the opportunity boys! Can't wait to come for another visit and have the rest of my bag looked at in 2024!

    • @scottyeaman8377
      @scottyeaman8377 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      #thatshammered… great work Bigman!!!!

    • @ryanwalters694
      @ryanwalters694 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      After watching the fitting, it all comes down to which ball flight you prefer. Would you rather hit the fade or the draw?

    • @ZackKennedyy
      @ZackKennedyy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ryanwalters694 now that I have better control over the club face, I'll be practicing to hopefully have a stock draw come spring

    • @ryanwalters694
      @ryanwalters694 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ZackKennedyy I’ve been working on an inside takeaway to eliminate my 2 way miss. Consistently hitting baby draws now. I feel more free over the tee ball and can now swing a little harder. I bought a swing speed trainer recently. Will start working with it to increase swing speed for next year

    • @NYR4Life29
      @NYR4Life29 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ZackKennedyy what was the new grip that changed the swing weight?

  • @NewDr3w
    @NewDr3w 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ian, how can I get my dad a fitting with you specifically?? I’ve had bad luck getting him fitted so far. I don’t know a single person more deserving of the compliment “world class” than you. Case in point is this video, you did everything in your power to make sure this man was set up.

  • @Putts2309
    @Putts2309 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a golfer in just about the same category shows me how important a fitting is!! Thank you!

  • @spacebound11
    @spacebound11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shot 80 this year. First 3 speed sessions I’m up to 129mph (not swinging at a ball). If I can somehow harness this speed with driver it could be a true weapon. This gives me some thoughts on going to get refit. Great vid gents.

  • @KA-dm9lm
    @KA-dm9lm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great. I’m 44. Started playing golf 1 year ago. Pretty much same as this guy, a tad worse prob. Shoot usually mid to low 90s. Broke 90 4 times in first year. Best round 87.
    My driver is terrible. I just don’t have the technique yet. I’m 6-4 and fit, should be able to pump it. But typically hit like this, 205 carry, 225 total. When I catch it I may carry 240-250 and roll to 270. I have to get fit for driver. Have an off the rack thing from Dicks. Great video and I’m inspired. Great work everyone!

  • @mikec.2314
    @mikec.2314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Walkin' out with 30 yards - well done lads.

  • @EHMSL1226
    @EHMSL1226 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy turning a big slicer into beautiful straight balls 30 yards further! Wow. Never underestimate the power of a fitting

  • @russellpartridge4615
    @russellpartridge4615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got to be the best 2 fitters in the game, Ian vs trottie now that would be a good video. Well done boys

  • @kevinconnolly754
    @kevinconnolly754 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a 13 hcp who played 3 wood for 3 years to stay in play more often this video is awesome for thought.
    Driver makes or breaks a round for me if it comes out of the bag.
    I pretty much know what score i'm posting with 3 wood.
    which is stressful knowing I could have many more birdie putts with a cooperative Driver

  • @richhall4085
    @richhall4085 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great fitting I need one like that!

  • @grahambartsch
    @grahambartsch 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Love to learn the thought process behind some changes / setups to try and affect the delivery from a shaft change etc!

  • @seminolekilla
    @seminolekilla 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this! I’m about a 15 and just got fit at club champion in Orlando. Ended up g430 max with diamana PD 60 s. Helped me not miss as far right. I had similar speed numbers as this guy. I love to see the gains.

  • @scotthansen4692
    @scotthansen4692 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great stuff guys. love these type of videos. Shows alot and really helps.

  • @robertnunnally6169
    @robertnunnally6169 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be awesome to get fitted by you guys. The driver fitting is one of the things that would help out so much and seems like most places around where I am have no clue how to fit people right.

  • @blaw9571
    @blaw9571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a ping guy myself . My go to is the g430 SFT and I’m surprised you didn’t have him try it out. I also have the g430 max when I’m hitting it good

  • @jaybee4190
    @jaybee4190 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    +1ish hdcp, 5hdcp, 20hdcp...all! Love these vids...mas, mas, mas!

  • @therealad4342
    @therealad4342 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would give anything to be fit by someone with this type of knowledge and approach.

    • @clubchampionmedia
      @clubchampionmedia  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Come on in to the local Club Champion! Each of our fitters goes through hours of rigorous textbook and hands-on training at our exclusive Club Champion University. Or just hop on a flight to Toronto, Canada and get fit by Ian or Mikey 😂

  • @jonathanlopez9797
    @jonathanlopez9797 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i feel like i relate a lot to this guy and his game perfect video for me!!

  • @GolfwithDave
    @GolfwithDave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the videos really helpful for me because I'm starting to get into fitting.

  • @rockerdude
    @rockerdude 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is every club champion fitting like this? Love going back and forth and making small changes and going back. I had a golftec full bag fitting and it was pretty bad. Didn’t really try too many things and just seemed like they wanted me out asap

  • @stuartrawlings9436
    @stuartrawlings9436 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    realy great look into a proper fitting woul love to get such an in depth fittig like this

  • @middle-agedmountainbiker5447
    @middle-agedmountainbiker5447 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd have been really interested to see if a similar end result could have been achieved with the original driver head, just changing the shaft and head settings. Did he go back and re-hit the Epic after he'd warmed up as well?

  • @mattymarbs9
    @mattymarbs9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I would do to have these guys fit me I feel like my experience at club champion is like ok that’s good enough that’s $850 and let’s pure that shaft for you now it’s 1,000 I feel like these guys genuinely want this guy to be a better driver if the ball and want to really help him

  • @kswas2784
    @kswas2784 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff but I'm really surprised that the first step wasn't putting a "proper" shaft on his Epix driver head. Can you explain why not?

  • @stevedumais6531
    @stevedumais6531 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a fitting then save up to purchase the driver later?

  • @tonyfrese6903
    @tonyfrese6903 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy literally has the same characteristics as me with heel strikes, swing speed, and spin. Guess I have to try this Ping G430 lol.

  • @elcortinez8238
    @elcortinez8238 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At his club head speed around 110, I’m curious to know as to why you guy’s chose S flex shafts over X flex?

  • @johngerman1197
    @johngerman1197 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ian, being that I am coming off of a now 2nd back surgery. Do you think it would be advantageous to be fitted to a different driver, or just maybe fine tune my current driver?

  • @jasonwagner5255
    @jasonwagner5255 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Static fitting is great! Fitting for a full swing (unless you are scratch or better is chasing something that makes no sense.
    Studies show that high handicap players who get “custom fitted” don’t improve.
    Save your money. Do a cheap static fitting. Take lessons.
    That’s the fastest way to improve.

  • @Garlicator
    @Garlicator 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow.
    Vive la difference!!!

  • @rxallan20
    @rxallan20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much did the driver / shaft ) fitting end up costing?

  • @tims1348
    @tims1348 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ping drivers have some secret sauce in them

  • @golfkingtd7466
    @golfkingtd7466 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where are you located?

  • @superfly1187
    @superfly1187 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His pants are really restrictive for a driver fitting session right? Seems uncomfortable

  • @nojoke5245
    @nojoke5245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    without watching the video yet, I predict either Titleist or Ping since that's what they always fit and crap on TaylorMade and Callaway, Let's see if I'm right...

  • @jaychu3850
    @jaychu3850 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg this guy is me

  • @RobertFlynn-i4h
    @RobertFlynn-i4h 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just need to slow this big dude up.
    He's be hanging onto that grip like a vice , he's an easy fix, as long as he doesn't want to be Tarzan

  • @SeidinhoDE
    @SeidinhoDE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15hcp, 300 yards. Alright!

  • @J_B72
    @J_B72 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goodness …. Ping!

  • @Aaronfps2
    @Aaronfps2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He hits it 40 yards further than me and my handicap is 7.2

    • @danyfilion6024
      @danyfilion6024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is that part of the game where you don't calculate dynamic loft😉, you know when the ball never leaves the ground oh ya its called putting, I have a feeling you can roll the ball better than Zack. Short game is soooooo important!!

  • @crisantechris
    @crisantechris หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else think this was a Shane Gillis fitting from the thumbnail? 😂

  • @DaveFogel
    @DaveFogel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy on my sim group says he can hear the turbulators… even on the backswing.. what say you?

    • @matthewshepherd826
      @matthewshepherd826 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've got the G430max and if I get too quick on my backswing I can hear a noise but it's more likely to be the weight port that makes the noise... but tbh I like it as it tells me to slow it down 👍

    • @marcuszettergren8885
      @marcuszettergren8885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd say he needs to work on his focus.

    • @ElvisPriscillaPresley
      @ElvisPriscillaPresley 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Put Vaseline on the top, it keeps it quiet.

  • @gurjrai
    @gurjrai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m calling bullshit, with that swing and at that swing speed he’s driving it almost 300. I’d wanna check those trackman setting.

  • @bilbobaggins7095
    @bilbobaggins7095 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The secret is you always fit the most expensive set up i have found.

  • @jaychu3850
    @jaychu3850 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If this doesn’t prove you should ALWAYS get fit then you deserve to suffer on the course.

  • @BlacknightOscar
    @BlacknightOscar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool. His short game must be shite.😊

  • @mdstrobe
    @mdstrobe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy is no beginner.

  • @DrFrankKorody
    @DrFrankKorody 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have not seen a fitting of a senior golfer at 80-85 mph swing speed … forget hcp…15 hcp with high swing speed is not helpful for senior audience

    • @mhardybaseball21
      @mhardybaseball21 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys should use my dad! He's 68 and has about 84 swing speed i believe. The guy hits it straight just not the furthest. Handicap is 18 I'm pretty sure

  • @socalgolf9978
    @socalgolf9978 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Better fitting shirt and pants will give him a extra 10 yards

  • @RobertFlynn-i4h
    @RobertFlynn-i4h 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's so much movement with this guy, the only thing he doesn't move is his bowels, sorry I m o only joking

  • @v205
    @v205 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good physique, just need to work on swing.

  • @jayenuu
    @jayenuu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m disappointed. From the thumbnail, I thought Shane Gillis was being fitted.

  • @MichaelMYouTube
    @MichaelMYouTube 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Higher handicap fittings are awesome. So relatable so much fun to live vicariously.

  • @danyfilion6024
    @danyfilion6024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Went to Toronto 2 weeks ago for full bag fit with Alex at Club Champion, it was great, started with the irons then the driver (also ended up with the G430) then the fairways and wedges. Hit over 200 balls over 3+hours so I was pretty tired at the end but these guys know what there doing. BTW I'm also around a 15 but without Zacks muscles😉. Can't recommend these guys enough!!!!

  • @Radioghost717
    @Radioghost717 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s ridiculous that Ian doesn’t just charge a fortune to teach fitters. His fitting methods should be the standard in the industry. I’ve been fit before and they are nothing like this. It seems like they are just guessing and when you hit 2 or 3 good ones they say looks like we found the one.

  • @davidhires7403
    @davidhires7403 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Unbelievable!!!!!!! Such improvement. I’ve been waiting to see you fit a mid handicapper. So good! Thank you for doing this.

  • @dustinparks9916
    @dustinparks9916 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Awesome video, great to see how the fitting can really change the shot shape. One thing we never see though is how much the setup you fit someone into costs. is that something you would be willing to share in future videos?

  • @bsmith4u2
    @bsmith4u2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very Excellent video. I only wish we had someone in my area of the country with your skills and patience to work with the average golfer. I've been to three fittings just recently and not one of them went into any more depth than choosing a particular club that I felt comfortable with and a couple of standard shaft choices. No one mentioned any of the parameters you've delved into with Zach here other than Launch, Carry and Ball Speed. And no one went past just a few standard shafts.

  • @TSOSGERBY
    @TSOSGERBY 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thank you for fitting a higher handicap golfer. I (being 75) would appreciate seeing a driver fitting for seniors as they are most commonly the ones with the money to be able to afford the clubs from a professional fitting.

    • @darrelle.thompson540
      @darrelle.thompson540 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's a series on that

    • @journeyman291
      @journeyman291 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not with today's inflation 😕😅

  • @martyboysation
    @martyboysation 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    looks like he swings very much with his weight over his toes. for me this is auto-right miss all day.

  • @josephpavlik4026
    @josephpavlik4026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was great. I've been watching for over a year. I live in Michigan. What does an average driver fitting cost? I'm about 15 handicap. 68 years old. Need more distance on driver. driver

  • @discr1709
    @discr1709 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A fitter’s dream. His gamer driver was such a bad fit and build.

  • @AB-wy7dr
    @AB-wy7dr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *Immediately Upon the Camera Turning Off*
    “Alright there Zach so that’ll be $2,899 + tax for the driver. We really recommend you PURE it, however, otherwise it won’t work, so that’ll bring you to a nice round $3,000 + tax. Shall we take cash or card?” 😃

    • @golfpug
      @golfpug 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ha!!

  • @kevinspradlin6288
    @kevinspradlin6288 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was great to watch. I had a fitting at Club Champion in Las Vegas months ago. I just fitted a new shaft on my driver. My fitter, Chase Bernero really helped me maximize my currently limited speed. He fitted me into an Accra shaft and I gained 30 yards. My mishits are a slight fade. At 66 I am averaging 265 on my drives, enough to keep me playing longer courses. Now, with some training I am finding that even at my age I can gain a mile or two....I may get to 275 yet. Yes people, a well done fitting can help, if nothing else it can help you get the most out of what you have.

  • @Danny4Aarch
    @Danny4Aarch 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another good FF video. Would absolutely LOVE to come in and get fitted by Ian. I’ve actually never gotten a proper fitting before after golfing for 6 years.

  • @kc_golf
    @kc_golf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is absolutely awesome. Truly shows how important a good fitting is, even for mid / high handicaps. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @mikebarker9910
    @mikebarker9910 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you balance the benefits of fitting a club to the swing as opposed to improving the swing …… I noticed that you said you normally ask about a client’s coaching programme so does that affect the advice you give?

  • @MXJEFF94
    @MXJEFF94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The G430 is not the highest ball speed beast (LS and MAX), but they are STRAIGHT and damn close on ball speed...... The TSR3 and Stealth 2 have better ball speed, but the dispersion opens up a little bit (IMO).

  • @tko9624
    @tko9624 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys are so much details in driver fitting. When I went to the club champion at Del Mar for my driver fitting, the fitter was a disappointment, to say the least. Club Champion needs to do an undercover with the Del Mar fitter.

  • @Onlyfoolsandcourses.
    @Onlyfoolsandcourses. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wish you gents were in UK. I still play a Titleist 909D.. would love to see if a TSR 3 would gain me some distance. 🤔

  • @billbeil2395
    @billbeil2395 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wonderful for all of us who sincerely want to learn. Could you measure seniors with less speed? Please!!!

  • @ajjamieson514
    @ajjamieson514 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video guys. As much as I love seeing elite golfers stripe the ball repeatedly, I also geek out over the numbers when an average golfer like myself ( 10 to 11 handicap ) has club tweeks made by professionals that improve ball flight especially limiting the damage on those mis hits. Top stuff.

  • @hectorcirilo1825
    @hectorcirilo1825 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved this. I bought a used ping 425 max to try it out after using taylormade from Sims down to taylor made burner pus with flex twist shaft. I'm a ~8 handicap. And I love it. Using an even flow riptide 6.0 at 70 grams . I might try it a little lighter,

  • @steelwarrior105
    @steelwarrior105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Marketing team" smash cut to mikey duct-taped to an office chair with mad men on a tv

  • @shaneelliott1263
    @shaneelliott1263 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If this video doesn’t show importance no matter your handicap then I don’t know what does!! Good job fellas!

  • @CarlosSaintPatrick
    @CarlosSaintPatrick 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent fitting video! Fellas....I need help getting rid of the left side of the course!

  • @ronlangfus4946
    @ronlangfus4946 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video with mid-handicapper. Would love to see same thing with iron fitting.

  • @bismanwn
    @bismanwn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching this cost me £600😂😂

  • @alexanderstenman8536
    @alexanderstenman8536 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I might be lost here but how can one not have an official hcp and be around 15 hcp?

  • @tristanbam3951
    @tristanbam3951 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really do love to see this! Coming from a 13 Handicap... Theres hope.

  • @CallMeSlavik
    @CallMeSlavik 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible fitting. So thorough. Well done guys

  • @laxduck
    @laxduck 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love this one - relate heavily as a fast swinger with a high handicap.

  • @NoCapPinnochio
    @NoCapPinnochio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video as always. It's amazing to see someone come in and hit the ball off the heel, toe, slice, and hook, and then actually be able to fit them into something. If this was me, I wouldn't even bother getting fitted until I got my club path and club face both to where I want it to be. Great job getting Zack into something that looks like it should help him.

    • @skeeteronthewater1568
      @skeeteronthewater1568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's something I see in comments all the time. They fit like a 5 to 8hcp and then people want to see a 18 to 20hcp and it's almost like they want to see it thinking the club will make this huge difference and make them play so much better and ultimately.....it's the swing not the club for the most part.

  • @bob5365
    @bob5365 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I could get off the tee that far instead of a 14 I'd be single digits for sure. I've been struggling so bad the last few rounds I've only been using irons.

  • @markgraham7899
    @markgraham7899 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great got my Driver fit on Friday.

  • @Citizensofthecountry
    @Citizensofthecountry 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the very best on the TXG channel.

  • @Daniel_a34
    @Daniel_a34 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic window into what you do!

  • @petekenny3774
    @petekenny3774 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Legends

  • @Omnis2
    @Omnis2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What in God's name is that guy doing with a shorter than standard driver?

    • @ryand4940
      @ryand4940 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mini driver. I use one as well.

  • @badbilly429
    @badbilly429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work guys there are club fitters out there and then there is you guys, most places he went would have seen those first 2 shots with ping and ventus red and been like ok we’re don’t here that will be $1000 and have a nice day

  • @Carcich_Golf
    @Carcich_Golf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be honored to be fit by you guys. 120+ club speeds. 175+ ball speeds. 9 handicap.

  • @freddyfaster4444
    @freddyfaster4444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So whats the exact club shaft ?

  • @jtflem11
    @jtflem11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed this video. How tall is Zack? That is incredible clubhead speed.

  • @ChasinAcesGolf-rt8do
    @ChasinAcesGolf-rt8do 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It was eye opening to see how you were able to reduce the amount of backspin compared to the gamer. Would love to see a fitting for a junior golfer in the future.

  • @severfieldtv1224
    @severfieldtv1224 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't lie, I thought Shane Gillis was in the thumbnail for a split second, and I got SO confused! 😂

    • @severfieldtv1224
      @severfieldtv1224 หลายเดือนก่อน

      kinda like a mix of Shane Gillis and Xander Schauffele

  • @bobb3rdown676
    @bobb3rdown676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The diamana zf/gt are such a good shaft.
    Loving my Sim/zf combo. Recently took the sliding weight out and put in a heavier weight in the rear. Hoping it increases forgiveness on my toe strikes while retaining some low spin elements.

  • @krusher74
    @krusher74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People need to know grip colour can affect weight, white grips are heavy, in the midsize he has the white is 8g heavier that the black. Its one point of swing weight for every 5g of grip weight. As Ian said this club is only C8, i would say it would be bck in "normal" driver swing weight of D2/D4 if A: he had the same grip in black and B: the shaft was not shorter than normal. Dont buy random items off the internet if you dont know how to check your choices arnt making big changes.