Here’s Why the Patek Philippe 5270R is Worth £125,000 | Watchfinder & Co.
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- Let’s say for argument’s sake that your software company just got snapped up for a few billion and you’re on a bit of a spending spree to celebrate. You’ve bought the yacht and the supercar, and you’re just about to start your 5-star trip around the world-but before you do, you’ve got just enough time to pick yourself up a watch. You’re only going to grab one for now, and you want it to be something special. What’s it going to be?
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"you've just baught a yacht and the super car, now what do you need?" I love the general consumer advice approach :D
I only buy on superclone watch and loansliml.com they are best for replicas
@@halvertroberts9147 Why? Sorry but I disagree with supporting these dealers.
Making a profit on someone else's design and rather poorly executed replicas at that.
I do understand why so many are drawn to these replicas. Just wish people wouldn't pay these pirates for theft.
Also , I took a look and would have to say the watches there are anything but super... They are actually pretty cheap attempts. A super clone will set you back much much more and people pay the silly price. And I wonder how they feel about spending so much on something so worthless?
Each to their own.
I will stick with the real deal and wear it with pride all while knowing I am supporting the real creators.
And listen don't get mad , I am trying to convey my opinion which quite often could be taken out of context when it is all typed out.
Just my opinion...
Yeah but what's the Dougscore?
Chrono24.com/oversteer
This Patek has many quirks and features
I'm dead
I was gonna add something Doug would say but I’m late to the party
Doug the type of guy who buys a $150,000 sports car while wearing an Invicta.
Just in time. I got my La Ferrari today and I was wondering what else to buy.
Wanna hang out 😅
Lol
You spend your money in Ferrari and not in a patek philippe
And then you woke up.
I bought a Porsche 918. Let's race.
TH-cam: “Here’s why the Patek Philippe 5270R is worth £125000”
Me: “I don’t need sleep, I need answers”
Lige 1853 praic zwat gold
A drop test would be appreciated. Thanks
Seymour Butts oh no you didn't 😂
Oh yeah, like smashing your Roller into a brick wall to see if it dents.
I can just see you taking a sledge hammer to a £125 grand watch to see if it is bomb proof. Are you deficient?
It’s one of the finest made watches money can buy and you feel the need to abuse it to satisfy your obtuse curiosity. Why?
sentinel 69 dude you are too serious. Im not sure if youre being sarcastic but im sure i was joking 😂😂😂
Seymour Butts .
Demolition has always been a huge interest of mine as well Seymour. There is nothing quite like smashing something to bits. It’s so cathartic !
Have you thought of moving on from high end watches to breaking up, for example ,huge ships in Northern India. Now there is a hands-on prospect which would fulfil all your desires.
Now I don’t want to get too political but nothing would give me more visceral pleasure than smashing President Trump’s edifices to pieces with a concrete wrecking ball. This might also satisfy your wanton urges.
Watch out !! he will probably issue an executive order and replace the head of the Statue of Liberty with his own shortly . After all he has a penchant for demolition as well. Cheers, UK
sentinel 69 r/whoosh
I fell in love with watches thanks to your amazing narrative reviews 🥰
np that's our job bro
I agree and I commented above on Sep 19th. They did a good job on this didn't they? Excellence.
@@vietl2160
This is the watch I would have if money were no object. Although Patek makes highly regarded minute repeaters I think perpetual calendar chronographs are what they do best and not only would be fun to wear but in 20 years would be one of the few watches that will be worth more than what you paid for it. Unfortunately I would have to win the lottery to get one so will just have to admire from afar.
The chrono's seconds hand looks dirty...
I also saw that. Looks like water stains 😱
It looks like a cheap PVD discolouration. I can't belive I'm looking at PP...
yup can't belive thats on Patek Philippe watch.
The minute hand is even worse, on the underside! I couldn't believe it. at 1:18 in the video, if you look at the 2 o'clock marker (which is polished to a mirror) you can view the underside of the minute hand. It looks horrible. What on earth has happened, which allowed the most viewed, most important markers to be so poorly made? My guess is the following: The have decided to use a new material for the hands, which is light weight and thus better for efficiency than heavy gold hands would be. My guess is that it's aluminum which can fail at PVD coating quite easily. there's over 30 ways this process can go wrong, and it seems they don't care enough to refinish? www.researchgate.net/profile/Massimo_Lorusso2/publication/275616669_Failure_modes_of_PVD_coatings_in_molten_Al-alloy_contact/links/5729cdd808ae2efbfdbaff6a/Failure-modes-of-PVD-coatings-in-molten-Al-alloy-contact.pdf
Edit: I take it back, it's just a polishing issue. There's no way it's aluminum coating, it's a pure gold, and they just skipped some steps. Because they can, and few who watch this are in the market.
Agreed. Maybe they are using a new Al alloy which failed ? Why would they sell such a fail. So disappointed. I honestly never imagined this could be possible on a retail PP. Not that I was ever in the market but this is really a disappointment.
I really like the watch but afraid some guy gonna chop my hand off to steal the watch.
That's for rolexes, i don't think thieves will know about pp
C M 😂😂 for sure
Thieves only know the brands rappers mention in all their songs, Ap and Rolex😂😂😂
carlos campos lol lately they’ve started to mention pp as well 😂😂
They would have no idea
I swear every time i watch one of your videos i'm blown away from the quality of the macros shots, wow, just wow.
Please do more videos about Vacheron Constantin, my favourite manufacturer, any of the Metiers d'Art piece would be amazing!
The writing, the narration, the filming. Just exquisite!
My ultimate splash watch would be the A. Lange & Söhne Zeitwerk Minute Repeater
Damn. That Zeitwerk is one beautiful watch. I like the one in dark blue.
Yeah that’s a grail watch alright 😃
@@canalwest or Langematio
Abdul Rahman Abdel Razek a German watch is not a Swiss watch
@@canneddinners6059 yes but A Lange & Söhne has higher quality and standards than Swiss watches
this is such a magnificent piece of engineering I am a complete novice of horology but I can appreciate the intricacies of such a fine timepiece my personal favorite is a vacheron Constantin I do like the Patek Philippe's as well unfortunately I am not financially secure enough to own such a marvelous piece so I too will look with amazement and astonishment at Perfection personified
Absolutely stunning. I love something of immense quality.
They say quantity is something you can count.
And quality is something you can count on!
but not for that money.... its worth like 30 times less
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VAN FEKTETVE,,,,, A PÉNZ PAPIR, EZT CSAK ARANYBAN LEHET KIFIZETNI
Incredible engineering, I think it's a stunning piece but my personal taste would be A. Lange & Sohne or a Breguet in the high price points, as I also collect antique pocket watches and tend to like traditional styling.
I agree 100% ! I own a superb A. Lange & Sohne Langemati. I also have a ton of respect for Breguet! Both are of top quality and workmanship. And they are so well finished. Just true masterpiece !
Those 8 minutes blew by
I'd buy an A.Lange & Söhne Datograph in a blink. The Patek is ethernal, but the Lange has this heft to it, this incredible precision. Every time I see one, the image of the 1998 Mercedes-Benz S600 pops into my head, it is thoroughly German, and I love it for that.
High quality German craftsmanship. You got my vote
Right on - Like my father's 1976 450 SEL 6.9 - As good as German craftmanship gets.
Germany has lost two major wars. Switzerland is above and beyond German Na zi watches
@@tommylopez8338 look tommy, noone will ever be able to overtake the Swiss in watchmaking, but one has to admit that there are a lot of reputable watchmakers out there, that put out some serious competition products, both German and French. However, my comment revolved on the idea of what is tipically and thoroughly German, in this particular case precision, extreme attention to detail and of course pride in ones job and product. The video ends with a question, and my comment was just a mere/very personal response to said question. Your response, on the other hand, revolves around historical facts, non related to watchmaking, but, since we got here, yes Germany lost 2 wars, I am not going to get into why and how, that is a very long discussion. Still even after 2 lost wars, it has the economical strength, heart power and brain will to lead Europe and "dictate" its evolutionary pace as the worlds second most powerful and influential country. So, yes tommy, the Swiss are the very best at watchmaking, but the Germans, they are the very very best at everything else! Cheers.
@@tommylopez8338 dude German engineering was miles beyond anything anyone else had. I have a Mauser 98 rifle from 1942 that my grandfather had when he did military service here in Sweden. It's been fired thousands and thousands of times, poorly serviced, beaten to hell and back but there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Say that about any other rifle. I was using it at the shooting range and some guys laughed and said it wouldn't hit anything... I should've bet money against them because well I shot full score with it. That gun will outlive me, my children, my grandchildren and probably even more generations. All it needs is to be cleaned now and then and have its stock oiled.
The same goes for mercedes Benz of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Especially the S class. The W140 series is the best car ever made. It rides like a 2022 S class and looks a thousand times cooler.
ultimate wrist watch? how about a Zeitwerk? a Ressence Type 3? F.P. Journe chronometre souverain Havana? IWC 502308?
This watch is pure art!
Thank you for this amazing review.
This timepiece is a perfect example of the amalgamation, culmination, and balance of artistry, ingenuity, engineering, craft, and taste. This timepiece is perfection-in every way. There is no modern gadget (i.e. any "smartwatch") that can even dream to evoke in us the sense of awe, admiration, and respect for workmanship that we get from something like this... no amount of silicon, no amount of apps or features, no amount of RAM, CPU/GPU power, or storage capacity will ever cultivate in us the sense of love and wonder that we get from a timepiece like this one. Period. This watch is functional poetry. Like TGV says: "Absolute pure class..."
IGAZ !!!!!!!!!
was shopping for a new 5270R for about a year and found one 2 months ago. the more i wear it, the more i want to wear it. what a watch
you have taste. what other watches do you like?
It doesn't look any better than a Chinese automatic watch and barely keeps better time. It still can't compare to a Quartz in that regard.
It doesn't matter how absolutely perfect it was put together or the quality of the components, the REAL reason it costs that much is because it's a status symbol and people will pay for it. That's not a knock on the quality. It's just that the quality isn't what makes it worth that much.
The funny thing is that many people have never even heard of the brand and think Rolex is the epitome of watch luxury because they couldn't even imagine paying more than a few thousand for a watch.
For the past two years, I've been in love with the Jaeger-LeCoultre Duomètre Sphérotourbillon. Truly my dream one-watch collection. It's worth more than my apartment, but I think I might rather live in my car and spend my free time looking at my watch.
Personally I find PP 5270R to be a beautiful watch but I see micro flaws in design but when I look at A Lange & Sohne 1815 Rattrapante Perpetual Calender 421.025FE all I see is perfection..should rather say "Micro Perfection"...your videos are so great!
I'd rather buy a handful of Jaeger-LeCoultre's for the money. They are equally as deserving and have a fantastic history
You are dilerious. You obviously do not know what you are talking about
Neither are worth the money and can't keep time as well as a $10 Quartz watch from Walmart.
I agree, I got some Jaeger-LeCoultre from kuvarsit06.com they have high end quality with fantastic services
What's with all the spots on the second hand? How did it make it past final inspection?
yeah and towards the end of the video you can actually see what appears to be a water droplet. interesting.
I want a bathtub full of pateks and then i wanna bathe in them
If you consider a normal bathtub, you won't be able to fill it with more than 2 or 3 Pateks. Then you won't any space to be in bathtub.
@@superlameusername362?
Mine would be a Patek Philippe Nautilus 5976 in white gold. I saw it at a convention and CRM Jewellers lately covered it. Its a beatiful piece and very large for Patek, still its proportions are perfect and i love it.
The ultimate wrist watch: "KITT, pick me up in 10 minutes."
"OK, Michael."
Incredible camerawork. Fantastic to see such a beautiful work so detailed up close
It's crazy how expensive this watch is, but it looks amazing.
NEM DRÁGA. GONDOLKOZZ
Love your show. Your commentary is alway informative but also exudes charm and appeal for your watches. Great voice, relaxed and soothing. I could fall asleep to it (in a good way) P.S. Thanks for getting regular manicures. It befuddles me when watch blog hosts talk about detail and show their magnified hangnail in 4k HD.
What a work of art... beautiful time piece that captures my imagination!!
Poetry in motion. By far the most well spoken video on watches not surprisingly about a PF. Sooooo beautiful and well made. Chapeau
Here I am thinking that my $140 swatch is expensive and a piece of beauty.
Swatch group actually own some really great brands. And Swatch is an extremely intelligent company. They understood what would sell in the battle of the quartz vs automatics. Now they own ETA, and companies like Tissot.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a Swatch at all. Wear it with pride!
It might be, the beauty of a watch shouldn't be dictated by it's price and Swatch is also the largest watch company in the world so they certainly done something right
This series is great. While I've never been in the market for a watch worth this sort of money, well-made analogue watches are fantastic.
That is a marvel of both engineering and craftsmanship but I would splurge on a heavy duty G Shock GWG1000-1A3 Mudmaster
No notification. Popped into my recommendations. So excited to listen & watch.
2:24 second hand have freckles :D
Seriously though, for this kind of money, I want the second hand to be flawless, not spotty!
What you guys don t get it is that these are second hand watches, the little imperfections on these watches can probably be from a bad service or maybe owner s foult . And second thing nothing in this world will be 100% the same as when it was new regardless the price.
@@zdaboy338 How exactly would that have happened? The case is sealed, airtight, and dust free; the owner just popped it open and took a look, no. If he damaged the watch it would have even a scratch on the outside.
He would have had his service at a PP Maison for sure, if he could afford it in the first place, keeping it running should be rather cheap. So it most certainly was a fault from PP either at service or brand-new, which honestly is embarrassing for the price.
Chris Ruiz potentially, good idea
Amazing, but Lange & Sohne's movement with the screwed chatons and super elegant balance wheel still do it for me.
"costs", not "worth", worth is relative, only depends on how much someone is willing to pay for something, regardless of features, quality, anything; perhaps just the brand itself
First World problems.... The absolute pinnacle of Capitolism. Many high paying jobs supported by upper class income. Awesome!
Yes, but clearly the video is putting forth an argument as to why he believes it’s worth £125k. Pretty sure he knows the difference.
No, the features he describes are what constitutes to why it costs that much to buy. It's an advanced piece of hardware, indeed. Whether it's _worth_ that at all is up to market trends, people's subjective opinions - if there weren't millionaires and billionaires around to spend that much on a watch, they would only cost a fraction. There is no putting forth any argument on why this would _worth_ 100k, that is subjective.
A market analyst or psychologist could answer that question, and that wouldn't be a technical one.
Anyway, catchy title, that's all.
It's not "worth" arguing semantics when you could spend your time looking at watches
Paul E haha good point
Does it show the year? Thank you.
Beautiful, well researched, well crafted review.
how are these watches powered? how often do you need to supply it with the energy it takes.
When I do invest in a watch I am definitely getting a Patek Philippe!!! Its just something about this brand that stands out to me over all the others #classic
Awesome choice! Patek is amongst the super watches. Excellence with a lo ong history of brilliance in design. Plus it is a watch that would be a very prized heirloom.
I would definitely rock the A Lange & Sohne Triple Split. Engineering at its finest.
There ya go! Awesome watch indeed!
A. Lange Double Split in platinum would be my end-all huge purchase.
💰 💰 🤑
I know 😭 I'd probably just buy a vacation home instead, but what a piece of art it is.
ALS all the way!
Not the Triple Split?
MrAristaeus The triple is a technological marvel, I just prefer the double. I think the movement just looks better
You,undoubtably,have the best watch site on TH-cam.It is a pleasure to watch each of your broadcasts!
What’s with all the discoloration on the second hang?
Possibly water damage.
@@thezapsback yet the extremely delicate dail is flawless?
@@jacquesbothma6936 Dial is white and matte, so it's much harder to see flaws there. In some mild water damages metallic parts such as hands and dial indicators are more vulnerable unfortunately. In reality this case may be derived from another problem but i dont give any possibility to production fail because pp has maybe the most professional final controls. They simply wont sell this kind of faulty watch.
@jonny j it seems you are quite sure about that
I can’t find it on the website now, is it discontinuous?
No matter of how you would like to see it, I am very certain that the price tag that goes with it is certainly very hard to swallow to most sensible and pragmatic people. I love mechanical and automatic movement watches very much but still there should be a cap to all these over inflated prices. No matter how decorated or advanced the movement is, it’s still not justifiable, period.
The people who buy these timepieces don't worry about money its excess money there spending.
Another glorious timepiece. Thanks for getting me closer to one than I can ever imagine being IRL.
The Patek Philippe 5270R is a marvel of mechanical watch technology. If the Patek Philippe 5270R doesn't lose 40% of its value after purchasing it then it is worth the $163,469 price. A luxury and exotic car of the same price depreciate more after purchasing them.
Which filming gear do you use?
Camera
Lens
Mic
Lighting Setup, etc
I consider Patek Phillipe the best company in the world in both style and performance.
You sir are spot on and borderline genius!
@@tommylopez8338Thank you. I just love dress watches and the yellow gold Calatrava with Roman numerals looks amazing. But its just my opinion.
What camera lens do you guys use for these super up close shots?????
What is with the patination of the second hand? That looks really poor
l know almost nothing about watches, but l saw a comparison between Patek, and A. Lange & Sohne .....l liked the Lange better. l wouldn't say no to the 2 million dollar 'Patek Chime' that has a flipping face though!! That watch is my all time favourite!! The advertisement for the thing, and the music for it BLEW MY MIND!!!
They focus so much on polishing that movement that they forget about the front. That second hand is not polished at all. Why cant it be like the other hands? And what is that on the date hand at 7:24? A droplet of water? Oh my...
DiscoFalcon you can't compere Seiko with PP, the watch with the price of £125,000 there must be no mistakes.
when you will take this watch in your hand you will never see that drop.
these are resold watches, perhaps someone took it into swimming and broke the glass.
bonustraka the thing is, if I'm gonna spend that kind of money on a wrist watch, it better damn be perfect, whether I can see it or not.
***Could be a drop of watch oil, also you don’t know it could have been serviced by an unauthorized retailer and mishandled leading to the small amounts of dirt...***
the finishing on this is just on another level from RM IWC
Holy crap. What a watch. and what a video! PP might be the best watchmaker, but you guys are definitely the greatest watch channel on youtube!
really like the watch. how many of them can i buy at once? any limit?
Lol, the five star trip around the world bit hits a bit different now huh? :P
Lange & Söhne Langematic Perpetual in white gold with black dial would be my ultimate got to luxury watch.
All that meticulous handiwork, and it still doesn't seem worth it *to me*. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd rather just keep my lowly Nomos.
this exact model has always been my fav and sure as hell i will deff own one one day
SINN watches. Please do the review of Divers range of SINN watches (U1, U2, UX)
The publish date of the video is Sep 21 but the watch shows Sep 27. Did poster go back in time and post the video?
The second hand has some stains on it.
I would buy a Credor spring drive. Oh by the way this time keeping piece: how many seconds a day is off?
This or a Casio F-91W?
Ivan Popov the bin laden watch all the way
Nah, timex indiglo all day bro😂
Beautiful watch !
What's up with the stains on the second hand ?
he jst convinced me to start saving my money 🦁
This video made me subscribe to your channel. Fantastic work!!
If I'm traveling the last thing I need to bring with me is a super expensive watch that I need to look out for and could get me kidnapped. No, I'll buy a $100 G-Shock instead.
As long as You don't have dimonds on you are good no1 knows what are You wearing
I like watches but the best thing about these videos is the watch nerds discussing the natural patterning of an alloy and saying its an utter farce from Patel Phillipe and when the titles are mildly clickbaity to bring new people to watches they hate it. Cracking videos
This is my most favorite watch of all time. Mark my words I will obtain this watch in the next 10 years. A
All the best brother.
share the view with us when you do :)
good luck
New subscriber and watch lover here mate :-)
I was wondering, how long does one watch like this take to get built???
125 000 Pounds and it has sort of rust on the tiles. For that amount of cash I would expect it to be perfect
Still the GOAT, channel and the watch. I'd go in for the 5270G (white gold) version myself, that, I would say is my grail.
~2:23 - 2:30 the chrono seconds hand looks to be rusting/pitting. Shame.
At 1:18 in the video, look at the 2 o'clock marker. It's a mirror that lets you see the underside of the minute hand. It's even more fail under there!! Polishing fail. No rust if it's gold, just fail fail fail
I would like to see a review about Frederique Constant Flyback Chronograph watch in rose gold. Seems to be the best flyback chronograph in its price range. If you could compare it to some other flyback (maybe A. Lange & Sohne to see what you get for paying 20 times more) it would be magnificent.
Just got an apple smart watch. It can even tell the time.😂. Besides a hundred other complications. And it did not cost a fortune. You need to try one.
Of which was made in a factory with barely any effort of course☺️
A. Lange & Sohne Tourbograph perpetual. Ultimate grail watch.
Those macro shots showed a surprising amount of flaws for a $154,000 watch..
Stains on the hands, a WATER DROPLET on a hand... yikes.
The A. Lange & Sõhne 1815 'Rattrapante' Perpetual is much superior to this watch but for me the holy grail is the Richard Lange Tourbillon 'Pour le Mérite' as it 'only' shows time (breath-takingly).
can you guys afford to conduct a giveaway?
No
i know already mate...
just a casual comment to see if i make it to the eyes of the channel heads
I dont think they own these watches
you never know what they own and what they don't
They did give away an apple watch a while back.
What does the numbering actually mean while naming these watches?
is that a small scratch on the crystal or is that just me?
Not just you. This watch is in worse shape than most new grand seiko. Look at the hands! All pitted and sad.
Nice review, thanks Watchfinder. The PP is busy for my simple tastes. Would opt for the 5227R, if I had the $$$$$
So i am the only one who realises the poor finishing at the backside of the dial at 1:20? I mean its a > 100.000$ watch...
Nope, you aren´t. Even worse, the topside is blemished too. Might be over exaggerate but on a 125k Watch? Hard to over exaggerate...
I love and always enjoy ur videos....thanks
Well a ALS datograph would be my choice😏
Terrific video !!! Exactly the kind of unashamedly close macro photography that lets us enjoy every single detail of the watch, inside and out, and that lets us appreciate beauty of design and incomprehensible amount of manual work put into its production !
Needless to say, narrative is of the same, highest quality !!!
Your videos, guys, make life beautiful ! For the time of their length, at least !
A. Lange & Söhne please
Shiite watches
I will buy this watch what is the price
Does anyone know who the voiceover is? Sounds familiar but I can't think who it is or where I've heard him before?
I enjoyed listening to the informative talking hands. That's why I subscribed...
If one had the money to buy this beautiful watch were would you buy it and how many years to receive it after ordering it?