Does Jill really belong on this list? This focuses on characters whose moral compass gets completely flipped. Jill was mind controlled but went back to being a good guy after you saved her. Her moral compass stayed put, for the most part.
@PsychoDieter91 I never really played prototype, but the game probably died out due to either lack of ideas or story line, either that or they just didn't have enough money or straight up abandoned the game, again I NEVER played the game, I'm literally just assuming things. Also I have no idea why I'm replying to you
@@rlharveson Oh, no they had plenty of ideas and ways to go with it. Someone made a comic, totally fucked up Alexs personality and goal and turned him into an asshole. I enjoyed Prototype 2 but having Alex as the villain was bullshit when they had so much else to do yet from the first game.
Does Alex Mercer count? Technically he was responsible for a zombie outbreak from the start of the first game, but he took his dickishnes to a whole other level in the next game.
"Sir, you're monologuing again, and you ordered me to remind you to stop doing that." "...thank you, Chamberlain. What's next on my calendar?" "Genocide, and then lunch, sir."
Army of two devil's cartel will always hold a special place in my heart, me and my dad always played it together. It will always go down as one of my favorite games
Then there's Shepherd from our many, many Mass Effect playthroughs. Paragon, then renegade, then paragon again, then renegade again... then murder everyone you can just for funsies...
1005rhys When your experience revolves solely around Tali. Every mission: Tali Every break: Tali I exhaust all the dialogue options within my first hour of playing.
Anders, the mage from the 'Dragon Age' series. In 'Origins - Awakening' he's a nice if trouble young man with a kitten named Ser Pounce-a-lot. By the end of 'Dragon Age II' he's blown up a church full of nuns!
I wouldn't mind it much if he would've at least told me (the main character and one of his best friends) about it first. Instead he lied to me and made me help him.
I was a little confused by the inclusion of Mafia III because I gave the whole city to Vito in my playthrough. I didn't even know that he went bad if you neglected him.
Sadly that IS a rule. If you're a villain, you HAVE to monologue. Even if you are one of the silent types, you'll be forced to learn sign language or monologue through the medium of charades.
I'm actually part of a small minority of people who actually like Chuck Greene more than Frank West. Also, there's assholes out there that didn't give anything to Vito in Mafia 3? Those people I do not want to meet.
What about Middle Earth: Shadow of War? You set out to fight Sauron, but at the end, your other half almost BECOMES Sauron, you don a Ringwraith’s ring, and eventually become a Nazgul yourself. Then you have to watch yourself give in to the ring as Eltariel in the DLC. It’s super depressing to watch Talion be wiped away, and replaced by a puppet of the Dark Lord.
CapColdblood thanks for the spoiler! Lol jk bro but that’s crazy tried the hardest level because I thought i could hang since I played shadow of modor, but I was wrong lol so I neglected the game because I kept dying, but now I’m on normal continuing the story. Wish me luck on the DLCs to 👍 ...side note do you get anything for completing the game on the hardest level?
teno_drew I think an achievement or two. Nothing worth the grind. They added a ton of new stuff and eventually you get sweet rewards for the endgame. The best stuff is the Legendary sets. My favorite is the Terror set or the Machine set. Always kill Legendary Orcs!
Machine > Marauder > Vendetta > post-update Ringwraith > Terror > Mystic* *the Mystic Dagger is God tier OP, and should be equipped most if not all the time. Machine is a bit tricky to use, what with the constant secondary and tertiary explosions knocking Talion off the Captain he's about to do a Ground Finisher/Fury on, but once you get the hang of it and level all but the Dagger (whose function is kinda useless and completely inferior to the aforementioned Mystic), it is the Destroyer Of Worlds. Marauder is extremely fun to play, as most Berserker-type things are. It requires the automatically-grab-loot skill to fully experience and empower, but once you get it and start racking up kills, there are few things capable of stopping or even slowing you. Once, I killed an Online Vendetta target with it using just 2 hits and an Execution. On a target that was "Immune To Execution." Let that sink in for a bit. Vendetta is a really good set to use when you don't have any other Legendaries yet, or haven't been able to level them. Even though levelling Vendetta can be a bit glitchy at times. Before the update, the Ringwraith set was kinda fun to use, albeit with a useless Armor effect of increasing defense against Undead. After the update that gave us new armor and cloaks, it really became a viable and useful option. Terror.....well, I don't use Terror much, but it's kinda fun. Mystic? Pfffff. All you need from here is the Dagger, mate. Grab that and just move on. Also, an amendment to what CapColdblood said: Always kill Legendary Orcs, unless you've already got the weapon they drop. In which case, you Recruit them. And probably promote them to Bodyguard, Warchief, or even Overlord.
And there is NO redemption arc. The hero/es in D2 figure out pretty early on that the only way to do anything even remotely like saving him is to force Diablo out by hacking his body to pieces. So you LITERALLY walk into the most heavily defended citadel in HELL, annihilate an ARMY of Diablo's followers, then beat Diablo to death. "yay my soul is free now!" or something like that, yeah, have a nice afterlife, because that's all you get.
Summoner is a PITA. mainly because you have to fight him on narrow walkways and he uses AoE magic. He's not the main boss, in act 2, but he's the second hardest.
The town that you spent the whole of the first Diablo game defending from the forces of evil turns out to be the 3rd or 4th area you reach in Diablo II, except now it's full of the undead you you have to kill several of the named former townspeople who are now zombies. Good thing you spent all that time in the first game defending them! Not to mention that in Diablo 3, Diablo turns out to be possessing the daughter of that same character, and the person you have been escorting for the first 3/4 of the game! The Diablo series is mostly about screwing over the previous player character each subsequant game!
Chris: So wait wait wait, Wesker. You have a mind control device? Wesker: Yes and I used it to turn your close friend against you Chris:Mind control device? Wesker:Yes Chris: A device that will let you make a person do whatever you want and can be attached...to anyone? Wesker:Get to the point Chris: So rather than say, the president, or the prime ministers of Russia or China or anyone with access to an army and nuclear launch codes you pick...Jill? Wesker: She is a trained military agent... Chris:My friend and ally who would quickly join me if I freed her from said device.....And you turned her into a super soldier? Jill whose helped defeat you on numerous occasions as an ordinary human, you gave super powers to? Wesker: It was never about her, it was about getting inside your head. Hitting you where it hurt Redfield... Chris:Yep you are the dumbest villain ever. How have we considered you a threat all this time? lol
What about John Marston? You know, because he lived a very long and super happy life on his ranch with his family but eventually fell back into his outlaw ways when times got tough for agricultural workers in the 1920s ... or was that just Andy's fanfiction?
Alex Mercer kinda falls into a particular hole that I think should have also prevented Wilhelm from being in this list: he's not so much a "hero" as he's a protagonist; he doesn't really have particularly heroic qualities (for the most part) but he is the character you play as/his is the point of view through which you experience the game.
wozzen I agree that Alex, to begin with, was an asshole before getting infected but when the virus took his identity, he was slowly learning to be a hero (saving his sister, saving a couple of agents who were actually trying to help the military kill him in the comics, and fighting Elizabeth and the supreme hunter's efforts to spread the virus). In the comics, he struck out on his own for a while to see what it was like to be human but people kept on screwing him over until he just flat out decided that humanity should be wiped out and that a new species should be the dominant one instead.
Mercer wasn't really a good dude. Straight from the start he was killing innocents and trying to spread the black light virus. Just because you play as a character doesn't make them the good guy. If any game teaches you that its gonna be Spec Ops the Line
His first lines are "My name is Alex Mercer. I'm the reason for all of this. They call me a killer, a monster, a terrorist... I'm all of these things."
Alex Mercer? The protagonist in Prototype that stops nuclear weapons from falling on the Big Apple, only to become bioweapon crazed lord of the bio zombies in Prototype 2?
Naw man, they been doing that for decades, going all the way back from the early days when they first came into buisness. They always been villans from day one.
"Wear a skintight catsuit and do backflips." You mean "wear a skintight catsuit with *the groin torn open* and do backflips." Yes this is true, you can check her trophy.
you are both so wrong. he was never good to begin with, when he was alive he released the virus. HE WAS ALWAYS THE BAD GUY, BECAME THE WORSE GUY IN PROTOTYPE 2
....When did I say anything to the contrary? Mercer was never a hero, he only tanked the nuke for two reasons. One he knew from the supreme hunter he would survive. Words from the supreme hunter's mouth "After I consume you even the nuke won't be able to stop me" So mercer never really had to fear for his life from the nuke. Second Dana was in the city it wasn't about the civilians. Final note his melancholy is far more focused on his realization he was never human, that he was the Blacklight virus. He never felt bad for the hundreds to thousands he killed. It was definitely out of character for him to become a megalomaniac villain but only because it is far more likely he'd just lose interest in humanity after its constant disappointment. Final, final, note a hero would not have an ability called street sweeper that's sole purpose is to wipe out civilians in mass.
Germy Forev re read your own comment coz thats exactly what you implied. genocidal virus deserves a spot why? the fucking thing was never good/a hero. so no it DOESN'T DESERVE A FUCKING SPOT
Or the fourth option like in Haze, where you start off as a villain by shooting a bunch of people, but then swishes side and become a hero... by shooting a bunch of people.
Talion from Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War is a good guy through both games and becomes a Nazgul after the Blade of Galadriel expansion he absolutely lived long enough to be a villain.
@@sukhoisu-75checkmate24 he got betrayed by the two Elves and had his ring taken, he then puts on a ring from a Nazgul which allows him to live. He for quite awhile stays as a good guy but the Nazgul ring eventually corrupts him and he becomes a Nazgul.
Adewale from Assassin's Creed IV? He's Edward's right hand man in Black Flag, he's the hero in Freedom Cry, and then oops...by Rogue, he's plotting with Achilles to find more Precursor Sites and knowingly start a bunch of massive life-threatening earthquakes. Once Shay inadvertently causes a genocide in Lisbon and defects to the Templars, he eventually DOES have to face and kill Adewale.
Adewale was not evil him and Archilles had no idea about hte earthquakes that the precursos sites cause, shay had no choise Adewale did not leasen to him and ARCHILLES realised Shane was right way to LATE.
No one said Adewale or Achilles were evil - objectively, they AREN'T. They're making a pretty horrible decision despite the earthquakes, which from Shay's point of view, makes them antagonists. That was the whole point of the game - to turn everything you know previously on its head and make you see things from the Templar point of view. That's why enemies stalk you/try to air assassinate you ffs. You know how it feels to be a Templar. Does that mean I think you should sympathize with the Templars? No. But for that game, Adewale IS an antagonist.
FOR ME NATHAN KENWAY WAS NOT EVIL PER SAY........HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE TEMPLAR, AND IF YOU TINK ABOUT IT THE ASSASIN OF THE WEST INDIES WHERE ALL IDIOTS EXEMPT EDWARD.
All three playable characters from Diablo can fit into this list since they all become bosses in Diablo 2. And after those developers left Blizzard, they played this trick again in their Torchlight 2. The main villain in that game is one of the playable character (the alchemist) from Trochlight.
What about Prince Lyon from Fire Emblem Sacred Stones. He starts as someone looking to cure his ailing father and eventually turns into the Demon King starting a massive war and releasing terrible monsters upon the land
Richter Belmont, from the Castlevania series (Symphony of the night to be precise), begins his adventure by doing the casual Belmont stuff of destroying Dracula and saving your girlfriend and her sister, and ended up corrupted by the fact that due to Dracula being gone until 100 years, he is pretty much useless, so he becomes the lord of the castle, get crazy and try to summon Dracula again (ignore the mind control stuff) Oh these miserable little piles of secrets...
Mada Faka Soma Cruz can become dracula in both aria and down of sorrow (bad endings) And in the dos you can fight him Which could be cool But he uses only like 6 souls if we count teleportation and transformation But it is still a good bossfight
Instead of wilhem you could picked handsome Jack who also was a hero and became a villain and its a more interesting character, and where's sephiroth? I think its the best example of a hero becoming villain in videogame history
Sephiroth was a hero before the start of FF7. Cloud even looked up to him and was inspired to join S.O.L.D.I.E.R. because of him. check out Crisis Core.
"Someone will kick Albert" *Jill pushes him off a window with herself going down as well* "Or Jill will kick him" Yeah Andy... she kicked him all right...
I think its because he's more comic book character based but idk I love edge of time and shattered dimensions but I'm thinking they are sticking with more video game characters on this one
I'm very, very surprised that The Infamous series' Kessler isn't on this list. It was one of the first games I ever played where it wasnt obvious at all that you were actually playing as the villain the whole time, before he even became the villain.
Damanzz Maybe because the channel is called OutsideXBOX, you know i would have figured that they would have used XBOX footage, y,know, just saying. Smartass.
No Alex Mercer for Prototype? I’m mean we wasn’t exactly a good person but... or even a hero really now that I think about it. Whatever I’m sure he fits the criteria somehow.
What about Alex Mercer from the Prototype series? He went from brooding goth antihero to megalomaniacal psycho in the span of like a year. It was a very jarring transition
Not exactly in a year the comics explain that he tried to live a normal life in disguise and successfully did for a while until he revealed himself to his love interest who ended up betraying him. After being scorned by humanity several times over the events of prototype 2 unfold
The Chuck Greene one, was inaccurate because the reason he turned psychopath was because of an alternate ending. This follows Case: Zero however Chuck fails to give Katey Zombrex and starts to go insane. If you say, "What about Dead Rising 3?" I can explain that too. We don't know much, but I can only infer that Katey ran away. This causes Chuck to find her.
DR 3 continues from the A ending of DR2 (and case west expansion) where katey and her father are separated Then, politics happened and it took years for them to join again (DR3)
Everything you said about Revan was brilliant Jane but I do have one question...why is Canderous so naked? (Also IS THAT WHAT TOR REVAN'S VOICE ACTUALLY SOUNDS LIKE??)
Well there are two Revans in TOR one who is dark side & the other light so one sounds like a maniac and the other sounds like a bloodthirsty maniac with a cult... so any Player character really.
I don't know about the two last ones, but I don't think Kerrigan and Arthas counts, on account of having the whole arc of "heroes to villains" occur too fast (basically, by act II of their first game appearance, it's done).
Kerrigan was never really evil. Sure she took over the Zerg swarm, killed... lots of people, but it was in an effort to bring about peace in the galaxy, which eventually worked... mostly.
Kerrigan was evil in starcraft 1. All she wanted to do was take over the Swarm for herself and would not hesitate to kill anyone who stand in her way. Kerrigan was the greatest villain of the starcraft series which is why many fan did not like it when Blizzard retcon her character in Heart of the Swarm to a good guy who was only under zerg influence.
Katie in OTR died from being eaten by zombies, not from failing to get her Zombrex. The room at the beginning of the game where Chuck goes to retrieve Katie has her backpack laying on the floor covered with blood. Also you don't kill Chuck, he mysteriously disappears
We COULD count Alyn Shir from Kingdoms of Amalur. She did massacre a friendly patrol or two at the end, but we never really got answers for why she did it. Because.... [sniff] we never got a sequel [sniff] WE NEVER GOT A SEQUEL ELLEN
Pretty sure she did it because no one other than you, her and a select few others were even meant to know about tirnoch, and those patrols knew too much.
The impression that I got is that killing a few innocent people for the greater good wasn't really outside of Alyn Shir's character from the beginning of the game (or your pre-death character for that matter).
Emil from Nier and Nier Automata. In Nier, Emil is your companion, helping you before being joined into a robot body. In Nier Automata, Emil is a fast paced moped hybrid vendor who becomes the secret boss, twice. Once in his moped form, and next as a big bug centipede/nuke bomb form. Both are easily the hardest bosses in the game due to being maxed level and the latter being considerably harder with a 10s countdown timer till nuke goes off.
Also Kain, from Soul Reaver? In Blood Omen he starts out as someone who refuses to become like Vorador, only the cannon ending shows that he forsakes the sacrifice and by Soul Reaver has single handedly doomed all of Nosgoth by becoming exactly Vorador like. Like ?!?!?
Further games show that Kain's actions are less villainous and more anti-hero level, as his actions are aimed to prevent the fall of the Pillars (which requires Vampire guardianship to maintain the Binding), while dealing with the Hylden trying to force their way back from banishment. Defiance's ending adds dealing with the Elder God to Kain's list.
Chrono Critic well yeah, i have also played the whole series, but he's not a true antihero in my book anyway. He's inspired to trying to fix everything (as we do find out is a thing definitely by Soul Reaver 2 and is heavily referenced in Soul Reaver itself) only because he realizes an apocalyptic world kinda sucks to live in. The whole "saving Nosgoth" thing is purely coincidental to Kain's personal comfort. Raziel is the true antihero since he's inspired to action by revenge, but chooses to fix things as he can because he sees that people are suffering. Also, if we're claiming that by the end Kain redeemed himself, then I'd still argue that between Blood Omen and Soul Reaver, he's still 100% bad guy with no caveats.
yes, Jill is playable in many RE games, though if the series had to have a main protagonist, it would most likely be Chris. he survived the outbreak in Raccoon City, is the main rival of the main Antagonist, Albert Wesker, is clearly the most skilled with the most weapons in the series considering only he can use the laser that killed Alexia in Code Veronica, and the Gatling Gun in RE 5, and he can punch boulders without injury nor pain despite being just a normal human. as far as I recall Chris has never turned evil.
I hope you all do a second list, because Artorias the Abysswalker needs to be included. He's one of my favorite characters in the series as well as in video games.
As a resident of the moral high ground i must inform you that there are no cottages here. Don't worry though Jane, I'll be the bigger person and let you off for the error.
You can also play as Nisha in the Borderlands Pre-Sequel, who is an optional boss in BL2 (as the sheriff of Lynchwood). Definitely not as tough of a fight as Wilhelm, but still.
So you picked Wilhelm and not jack ? Kinda weird to pick him since he TECHNICALLY was a vilain from the begining. And Jack litteraly live long enough to become the vilain the same way harvey did.
Borderlands is bad pick, all protagonists and side characters are dickhead, just ruthless mercenary not hero. You're right, Jack got mentally abused even by so-called "heroes" who did bad thing and backstabbing. Jack understands, being biggest dickhead is the best way to rule.
“Watch out for spoilers for the following games” *shows the games* Well I mean it’s too late now you already explained the premise of the video and now showing us these games is just spoiling them.
I’m sorry but what in the actual fuck did you expect from a video titled “7 heroes who lived long enough to become the villain” from a channel named outsidexbox? A video essay on St. Catherine’s foreskin ring?
Not to mention unless you already played the games (in which case spoilers are irrelevant) you would have no clue which characters were the hero turned villain, as Harus pointed out.
Did you actually play tps? You don’t play as jack, you play as Timothy Lawrence, a doppelgänger/ body double who only did it because he had massive student debt. Jack himself isn’t really a good guy in tps- he already has angel chained up to the control core during the events of tps.
Yeah, that was... interesting... you fight through the hordes of hell to stop the most powerful hell-lord from manifesting on earth.... and seal him in your own body? DUMB plan!
Alex Mercer :D But i dont know ,in a good day i still woud call him an anti hero rather than an actual hero, yeah we saved brooklin from a nuke but devoured a bunch of unsuspecting civilians when needed to heal :D
He's an anti-hero, but a rather underdeveloped one. The only thing he basically understands is "everyone is trying to kill me, so I must kill EVERYTHING!". Hes got about as much personality as the Chosen Undead.
@@HybridSpektar yeah exacthly that is what is the story about thet he forgets everything about his past and then he tries to uncowher who is he/who he was :D
Would Bioshock Infinites Protagonist count as a Hero which also is the villian? Its a bit more complicated , but I would argue that he should count as a villian, after all Comstock is an older version of Booker and we sort of are " fighting" him too.
@@akumabazooka9169 the real Alex Mercer I'll agree with you on that about, but the character you play as isn't the real Alex Mercer. While I'd definitely agree that he was an anti-hero he still risked his life to save the population of Manhattan from getting nuked
He wasn't always a villain. Did you ever play the Bright Lord DLC? He just wanted to save his family and help Middle Earth, but the longer he wore the Ring, the more you could see him becoming evil and power hungry. Celebrimbor at the beginning of the DLC: "The Dark Lord has the One Ring. If I do not stand against him, Middle Earth will fall." Celebrimbor at the end of the DLC: "You have no claim, Deceiver! I AM THE TRUE LORD OF THE RINGS!!!" So yeah, Celebrimbor would've fit into this video.
Lance “Richard” Vance from GTA: Vice City? He helps you out for most of the game by showing you how to buy weapons and helping you in several jobs, including setting up your criminal empire, and then betrays you in the final mission all because he feels “left out.”
Option 4: Start as a Villain, regret your actions, turn into a hero
Sounds kinda like kratos...............
Actually no, just no
would that be option 2 or something. :O
@Nero Redivivus Ok?
So what's your point?
This is basically Zuko
Arthur Morgan 🙌
"If you shoot me, I'll release the detonator, which will trigger a nuke that-"
_shoots detonator_
"...That works too, I guess."
Timothy McLean noooo... Free thinking heroes, my only weakness.
That's why I put a time delayed fuse set to go off in.... 30 seconds from now.
Timothy McLean What about Alex Mercer??
Thats why i use the one that sends a constant signal which interrupted goes boom.
MC80's Entertainment well, be can't really call him a hero can you?
You can include Dutch van der Linde in this. He's the definition of this quote.
" I hAd A pLaN yOu JuSt NeEd SoMe DaMn FaIth."
I had
A
Goddamn
*_pLAN_*
Dutch was never the hero ever... of all time
@@kleinthegreat6869 "WHY ARE YOU DOUBTING ME ARTHUR"
U never play as Dutch tho
When I played mafia 3, I gave Vito so much land, he became the ruler of New Bordeaux after the epilogue
Same. I just couldn’t snub Vitl after all the Mafia II I have played.
Congratulation on that fresh bucatini
All the underbosses got a cut of land in my play through, it's only right since they helped get Sal "Shitbag" Marcono.
apprentlly and that came back to bite the hero of mafia three In the ass? did it?
@@jacknedry3925 how did you pull it off with out them turning on you etc?
Does Jill really belong on this list? This focuses on characters whose moral compass gets completely flipped. Jill was mind controlled but went back to being a good guy after you saved her. Her moral compass stayed put, for the most part.
Earth Dragon you’re right there
Well what about Chuck
Ada wong should be put in the list instead
@@marcellinuschristian8008 But Ada's more grey than black or white. She's always been sketchy as hell.
Earth Dragon was the the
I'd argue that not giving Vito a fair share makes YOU the villain
Chandler Treon Yea, but at the same time you're already a crimelord in the game so tomatoe tomahtoe.
Vito has gone through a lot, he'd deserve it.
Vito kills the Mafia 1 guy( at old age) at the end of mafia 2 credits
Vito was gonna die anyway so
I remember when this channel started. Jane was such an innocent, friendly woman. Six years later, oh how things have changed.
Brendan Mc jane was innocent?? are you sure we are talking about the same jane?
I think he talking about himself not thinking about fucking radom objects on TH-cam.
what did you expect ? They grew up
It's worse when they start talking like Church/epilson from red vs blue
They have changed? Sorry I haven't watched much of their newer videos
Was expecting Alex Mercer/Cole McGrath. Prototype and Infamous. Even in the first game you fight yourself from the future
KESSLER!!!
True
"I've become the beast . . ."
@PsychoDieter91 I never really played prototype, but the game probably died out due to either lack of ideas or story line, either that or they just didn't have enough money or straight up abandoned the game, again I NEVER played the game, I'm literally just assuming things.
Also I have no idea why I'm replying to you
@@rlharveson Oh, no they had plenty of ideas and ways to go with it. Someone made a comic, totally fucked up Alexs personality and goal and turned him into an asshole. I enjoyed Prototype 2 but having Alex as the villain was bullshit when they had so much else to do yet from the first game.
Jane Douglas- Spokeswoman for the much favoured third option
Ah yes, I'm not sure if Jane plays Prudence or if its the other way around
She's the only villain that's never let us down.
Dark Side? Light Side? Both will bow to me or die!
Jane Douglas: once the brightest star in the constellation of good. Now...well, juust look at her orbital death rays....
the orbital death rays are very bright!
Does Alex Mercer count? Technically he was responsible for a zombie outbreak from the start of the first game, but he took his dickishnes to a whole other level in the next game.
Thumbs up not only for the suggestion, but for writing "whole other level" instead of "whole 'nother level."
SmallGreenPlanetoid what's the difference?
"A whole other" is grammatically correct.
SmallGreenPlanetoid cool, now I feel smart.
Alex was never really a "hero"
In my opinion one of the best things about being a villain is being able to monologue, UNTIL SOMEONE RUINS IT GOD DAMMIT!!
Nah, best thing about being a villain is collecting Skulls for Khorne
And having evil laugh xD
You sly dog, you had me monologuing!
But is it worth it to get dem cheesy one-liners from heroes?
"Sir, you're monologuing again, and you ordered me to remind you to stop doing that."
"...thank you, Chamberlain. What's next on my calendar?"
"Genocide, and then lunch, sir."
Army of two devil's cartel will always hold a special place in my heart, me and my dad always played it together. It will always go down as one of my favorite games
Then there's Shepherd from our many, many Mass Effect playthroughs. Paragon, then renegade, then paragon again, then renegade again... then murder everyone you can just for funsies...
James Tanner my favorite renegade moment is pushing that dude out the window
I'd say Cerberus/ the Illusive Man. You can see them go downhill throughout the series
Shep is less fallen hero and more dangerously erratic basket case saving the galaxy entirely by accident. Well, mine is at least.
Then you accidentally kill tali on rannoch in me3. And that's a restart of the entire series.
1005rhys When your experience revolves solely around Tali.
Every mission: Tali
Every break: Tali
I exhaust all the dialogue options within my first hour of playing.
Some others:
-Alex Mercer from Prototype
-The Aeons from Final Fantasy X
-Naked Snake from Metal Gear Solid 3
The aeons weren't villains
There’s also Al Mualem from the original assassin’s creed
Also Shay Patrick Cormac
Jun Kurosu
Check it if you want, I don't wanna spoil more.
Me Myself and I we didnt play as al mualem
Spoiler warnings for resident evil 6, proceeds to show spoilers for resident evil 5....
Also for dead rising 2, they said she had the zombie virus and off the record was if she didn't get the zombrex
Hi NAWKtoons!!!!
@@Nov-5062 hi!
Miss your videos man
@@Nov-5062 I miss making them! I just gotta find my missing motivation my friend :)
As someone who plays DeadRising 2 it was pretty sad to see him as a villain...especially the Katey doll....that's pretty depressing....I LOVE IT..
Dead rising 2 off the record isn't canon it's a "what if" scenario exploring the idea of Frank uncovering the fortune city outbreak instead of chuck
Valiant Videos relax
@Valiant Videos Dude calm down, he's just correcting ot becsuse the video calls it the "follow up game".
Valiant Videos Salt much?
@Valiant Videos keyboard warrior xD
Valiant Videos yeah well they didn’t say that in the video fucking smartass.
So... is this foreshadowing for Andy? We all thought Jane was the evil one :P
I don't know, have you seen Ellen lately?
She's playing the long game, lulling them all into a false sense of security...
Jane is the evil one, but there's always two.
Maybe Jane is recruiting Andy as one of her evil minions!?
+MJPK well she's already force choked Luke a couple times soooo it's really on us for not seeing it coming really.
Anders, the mage from the 'Dragon Age' series. In 'Origins - Awakening' he's a nice if trouble young man with a kitten named Ser Pounce-a-lot. By the end of 'Dragon Age II' he's blown up a church full of nuns!
Nuns that enslaved mages, but yeah, he killed a bunch of nuns
Personally?
'Cause as far as I remember, the head of that exact church pushed against inhumane methods employed by some of the templars.
I see nothing wrong or evil in that
I don't remember everything about the game so I don't exactly know, but he did start the big templar-mage war which killed lots of people.
I wouldn't mind it much if he would've at least told me (the main character and one of his best friends) about it first. Instead he lied to me and made me help him.
I was a little confused by the inclusion of Mafia III because I gave the whole city to Vito in my playthrough. I didn't even know that he went bad if you neglected him.
Why be a stupid hero,be a villain,no silly rules
PLUS you can make amazing monologues
Dapper Horus you sly dog! You got me monologuing!
Karl Marx good reference
Sadly that IS a rule. If you're a villain, you HAVE to monologue. Even if you are one of the silent types, you'll be forced to learn sign language or monologue through the medium of charades.
Lord Baktor fuck me, imagine trying to do a monologue based on charades...
*pretends to have a nuclear detonator*
Hero: "Oh! Are you a chicken?"
Dapper Horus Added bonus with Jane as a companion
Wait so you're saying that you didn't give all the districts to Vito? But...but...Vito.
Max Littlewood I gave Vito all the districts too! 😅 He became the godfather of NB after the epilogue😅
Who would not
What about Alex Mercer? He turned to the dark side in Prototype 2.
He is an anti-hero in the first game.
OMG I *loved* those games!!!
To be fair, he was only a hero in the original Prototype if you ignore all of that cannibalism.
yeah but he was still the protagonist
The WerewolfF exactly, protagonist not hero
Katey: Daddy, I don't feel so good
Spiderman: First time?
I'm actually part of a small minority of people who actually like Chuck Greene more than Frank West. Also, there's assholes out there that didn't give anything to Vito in Mafia 3? Those people I do not want to meet.
What about Middle Earth: Shadow of War? You set out to fight Sauron, but at the end, your other half almost BECOMES Sauron, you don a Ringwraith’s ring, and eventually become a Nazgul yourself. Then you have to watch yourself give in to the ring as Eltariel in the DLC. It’s super depressing to watch Talion be wiped away, and replaced by a puppet of the Dark Lord.
CapColdblood thanks for the spoiler! Lol jk bro but that’s crazy tried the hardest level because I thought i could hang since I played shadow of modor, but I was wrong lol so I neglected the game because I kept dying, but now I’m on normal continuing the story. Wish me luck on the DLCs to 👍 ...side note do you get anything for completing the game on the hardest level?
teno_drew
I think an achievement or two. Nothing worth the grind. They added a ton of new stuff and eventually you get sweet rewards for the endgame. The best stuff is the Legendary sets. My favorite is the Terror set or the Machine set. Always kill Legendary Orcs!
CapColdblood thanks saved me the time 👏 will do sir 👍
Machine > Marauder > Vendetta > post-update Ringwraith > Terror > Mystic*
*the Mystic Dagger is God tier OP, and should be equipped most if not all the time.
Machine is a bit tricky to use, what with the constant secondary and tertiary explosions knocking Talion off the Captain he's about to do a Ground Finisher/Fury on, but once you get the hang of it and level all but the Dagger (whose function is kinda useless and completely inferior to the aforementioned Mystic), it is the Destroyer Of Worlds.
Marauder is extremely fun to play, as most Berserker-type things are. It requires the automatically-grab-loot skill to fully experience and empower, but once you get it and start racking up kills, there are few things capable of stopping or even slowing you. Once, I killed an Online Vendetta target with it using just 2 hits and an Execution. On a target that was "Immune To Execution." Let that sink in for a bit.
Vendetta is a really good set to use when you don't have any other Legendaries yet, or haven't been able to level them. Even though levelling Vendetta can be a bit glitchy at times.
Before the update, the Ringwraith set was kinda fun to use, albeit with a useless Armor effect of increasing defense against Undead. After the update that gave us new armor and cloaks, it really became a viable and useful option.
Terror.....well, I don't use Terror much, but it's kinda fun.
Mystic? Pfffff. All you need from here is the Dagger, mate. Grab that and just move on.
Also, an amendment to what CapColdblood said:
Always kill Legendary Orcs, unless you've already got the weapon they drop. In which case, you Recruit them. And probably promote them to Bodyguard, Warchief, or even Overlord.
Thanks for the spoilers :|
In Diablo II, Diablo is possessing the body of the hero from Diablo I. I think that counts as a villain turn.
And there is NO redemption arc. The hero/es in D2 figure out pretty early on that the only way to do anything even remotely like saving him is to force Diablo out by hacking his body to pieces. So you LITERALLY walk into the most heavily defended citadel in HELL, annihilate an ARMY of Diablo's followers, then beat Diablo to death. "yay my soul is free now!" or something like that, yeah, have a nice afterlife, because that's all you get.
Not only that, but the rogue is Blood Raven (the first boss in act 1) and the Sorcerer becomes The Summoner (act 2 boss)
Summoner is a PITA. mainly because you have to fight him on narrow walkways and he uses AoE magic. He's not the main boss, in act 2, but he's the second hardest.
The town that you spent the whole of the first Diablo game defending from the forces of evil turns out to be the 3rd or 4th area you reach in Diablo II, except now it's full of the undead you you have to kill several of the named former townspeople who are now zombies. Good thing you spent all that time in the first game defending them!
Not to mention that in Diablo 3, Diablo turns out to be possessing the daughter of that same character, and the person you have been escorting for the first 3/4 of the game!
The Diablo series is mostly about screwing over the previous player character each subsequant game!
I still don't get that the witch from the first game seduces you after you become the biggest hero around.... but oh well.
Chris: So wait wait wait, Wesker. You have a mind control device?
Wesker: Yes and I used it to turn your close friend against you
Chris:Mind control device?
Wesker:Yes
Chris: A device that will let you make a person do whatever you want and can be attached...to anyone?
Wesker:Get to the point
Chris: So rather than say, the president, or the prime ministers of Russia or China or anyone with access to an army and nuclear launch codes you pick...Jill?
Wesker: She is a trained military agent...
Chris:My friend and ally who would quickly join me if I freed her from said device.....And you turned her into a super soldier? Jill whose helped defeat you on numerous occasions as an ordinary human, you gave super powers to?
Wesker: It was never about her, it was about getting inside your head. Hitting you where it hurt Redfield...
Chris:Yep you are the dumbest villain ever. How have we considered you a threat all this time?
lol
Shorty
But in comparison of getting to those guarded people... makes more sense then what you're saying
Yes is a word use it you sound more intelligent if you do
@@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335 what?
persoperson Punctuation is proper, use it. Punctuation will allow you to at least seem of average intelligence.
What about John Marston? You know, because he lived a very long and super happy life on his ranch with his family but eventually fell back into his outlaw ways when times got tough for agricultural workers in the 1920s ... or was that just Andy's fanfiction?
Beth Bloomer are u serious or is this just an Andy thing
someone is a bit new to the channel
The WerewolfF thank you for the very informative answer sir. Done me a great service
No, that's definitely what happened. I distinctly remember Marston murdering Uncle to strains of Fats Waller.
red from pokemon
This whole list could just be Dark souls characters
Amen.
Man where is General Shepherd in Mw2 😭
Yep
Dark Souls: Oh I just went through hell and great amount of combat prowess, Welp time to become evil
What about Alex Mercer from Prototype?
Alex Mercer kinda falls into a particular hole that I think should have also prevented Wilhelm from being in this list: he's not so much a "hero" as he's a protagonist; he doesn't really have particularly heroic qualities (for the most part) but he is the character you play as/his is the point of view through which you experience the game.
wozzen I agree that Alex, to begin with, was an asshole before getting infected but when the virus took his identity, he was slowly learning to be a hero (saving his sister, saving a couple of agents who were actually trying to help the military kill him in the comics, and fighting Elizabeth and the supreme hunter's efforts to spread the virus).
In the comics, he struck out on his own for a while to see what it was like to be human but people kept on screwing him over until he just flat out decided that humanity should be wiped out and that a new species should be the dominant one instead.
Mercer wasn't really a good dude. Straight from the start he was killing innocents and trying to spread the black light virus. Just because you play as a character doesn't make them the good guy. If any game teaches you that its gonna be Spec Ops the Line
His first lines are "My name is Alex Mercer. I'm the reason for all of this. They call me a killer, a monster, a terrorist... I'm all of these things."
They never mention prototype games for some reason, that sucks
“Chuck Green was the hero of dead rising 2; you can tell with all the heroic things he was doing.”
*Shows Chuck throwing up
Where's bill cosby?
Enlightened Perry I don't think this channel covers Adult games, like that....
Bill Cosby: Off The Record
Enlightened Perry I’ll drink to that joke! Oh.. wait...
Enlightened Perry somewhere eating pudding pops
chance milic Too soon........
Alex Mercer? The protagonist in Prototype that stops nuclear weapons from falling on the Big Apple, only to become bioweapon crazed lord of the bio zombies in Prototype 2?
Thomas Langwell
Yeah ... still cant believe Prototype 2 is somewhat canon.
More of Anti-hero to villain
Thomas Langwell
I was thinking same thing.
How about EA... we played their games and they gave money for our favourite RPGs...
And then they turned on us...and started breaking bioware...
marcherwitch they've done some greatness but they've just had some really shitty money grubby practices
im crying
Titanfall 2 was good, and anthem looks good right now, so maybe it won't stay terrible forever
marcherwitch so true I total agree with you.
Naw man, they been doing that for decades, going all the way back from the early days when they first came into buisness. They always been villans from day one.
For pre sequel, you picked willhelm, but not handsome jack?
YEAH RIGHT?
It was a body double not jack himself.
@Iedy Iedy yeah.
@Daniel Whiting he kinda exploded like 50 peoples head in a room.
@Daniel Whiting big oof.
In dark souls 3 the final boss is the amalgamation of people who linked the fire in other words
Every single dark souls protagonist combined
"Wear a skintight catsuit and do backflips."
You mean "wear a skintight catsuit with *the groin torn open* and do backflips."
Yes this is true, you can check her trophy.
Coramelimane oh my
That makes the whole thing so much worse...
Coramelimane her groin area? or the groin area on the suit?
Reese Bearspaw both?
I think we can safely guess what Wesker did with her before having her fight the heroes....
You forgot Alex Mercer from Prototype! Granted, he wasn't _really_ a "hero", but he definitely went over the line in Prototype 2.
if they can have a mafia mass murder as a hero our genocidal virus deserves a spot!
you are both so wrong. he was never good to begin with, when he was alive he released the virus. HE WAS ALWAYS THE BAD GUY, BECAME THE WORSE GUY IN PROTOTYPE 2
....When did I say anything to the contrary? Mercer was never a hero, he only tanked the nuke for two reasons. One he knew from the supreme hunter he would survive. Words from the supreme hunter's mouth "After I consume you even the nuke won't be able to stop me" So mercer never really had to fear for his life from the nuke. Second Dana was in the city it wasn't about the civilians.
Final note his melancholy is far more focused on his realization he was never human, that he was the Blacklight virus. He never felt bad for the hundreds to thousands he killed. It was definitely out of character for him to become a megalomaniac villain but only because it is far more likely he'd just lose interest in humanity after its constant disappointment.
Final, final, note a hero would not have an ability called street sweeper that's sole purpose is to wipe out civilians in mass.
Germy Forev isn't the real Mercer dead? I thought the virus took over Mercer's body and memories?
Germy Forev re read your own comment coz thats exactly what you implied. genocidal virus deserves a spot why? the fucking thing was never good/a hero. so no it DOESN'T DESERVE A FUCKING SPOT
Or the fourth option like in Haze, where you start off as a villain by shooting a bunch of people, but then swishes side and become a hero... by shooting a bunch of people.
Talion from Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War is a good guy through both games and becomes a Nazgul after the Blade of Galadriel expansion he absolutely lived long enough to be a villain.
wait didn't he die and become the villain because the ring resurrects him
@@sukhoisu-75checkmate24 he got betrayed by the two Elves and had his ring taken, he then puts on a ring from a Nazgul which allows him to live. He for quite awhile stays as a good guy but the Nazgul ring eventually corrupts him and he becomes a Nazgul.
No Big Boss? The hero branded a threat by the country he saved? I am dissapoint. Still like you guys though :)
Maybe by villains they meant bosses?..
He is a boss in Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, so yeah...
Thanks for commenting this I clicked on this list expecting the biggest boss himself
Yes, buuuuut technically *adjust glasses* Big Boss was first introduced as a villain, and you played as him later on in the series.
Oh. Right. Shit.
What? No mention of Arthas from the Warcraft series? Literally the whole point of his arch in Warcraft 3 was to set him up as a villian for WoW.
Adewale from Assassin's Creed IV? He's Edward's right hand man in Black Flag, he's the hero in Freedom Cry, and then oops...by Rogue, he's plotting with Achilles to find more Precursor Sites and knowingly start a bunch of massive life-threatening earthquakes. Once Shay inadvertently causes a genocide in Lisbon and defects to the Templars, he eventually DOES have to face and kill Adewale.
But under Edwards mind he is still the good guy.
What rouge did was show the other side.
Adewale was not evil him and Archilles had no idea about hte earthquakes that the precursos sites cause, shay had no choise Adewale did not leasen to him and ARCHILLES realised Shane was right way to LATE.
No one said Adewale or Achilles were evil - objectively, they AREN'T. They're making a pretty horrible decision despite the earthquakes, which from Shay's point of view, makes them antagonists. That was the whole point of the game - to turn everything you know previously on its head and make you see things from the Templar point of view. That's why enemies stalk you/try to air assassinate you ffs. You know how it feels to be a Templar. Does that mean I think you should sympathize with the Templars? No. But for that game, Adewale IS an antagonist.
FOR ME NATHAN KENWAY WAS NOT EVIL PER SAY........HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE TEMPLAR, AND IF YOU TINK ABOUT IT THE ASSASIN OF THE WEST INDIES WHERE ALL IDIOTS EXEMPT EDWARD.
Throughout ac it's been pointed out it's a matter of perspective neither assassin's or Templars are nessicarily evil, they just have different plans
Gotta love how they said there would be RE6 spoilers but showed an RE5 clip
Shianne Jestis I was gonna say!
Shianne Jestis I was going to say that
It’s what happens when you rush and don’t check the work
All three playable characters from Diablo can fit into this list since they all become bosses in Diablo 2. And after those developers left Blizzard, they played this trick again in their Torchlight 2. The main villain in that game is one of the playable character (the alchemist) from Trochlight.
What about at the end of Shadow of War, where Talion succumbs to Isildur’s ring and becomes a Nazgul, and you end up having to fight him as Eltariel?
I honestly thought they'd include that as it's a pretty good example of that quote of living long enough to become a villain
that would be the most accurate example.
Poshel nu hoy This video came out before that dlc though
Instead they add a mind controlled person, and a what if scenario.
What about Prince Lyon from Fire Emblem Sacred Stones. He starts as someone looking to cure his ailing father and eventually turns into the Demon King starting a massive war and releasing terrible monsters upon the land
Richter Belmont, from the Castlevania series (Symphony of the night to be precise), begins his adventure by doing the casual Belmont stuff of destroying Dracula and saving your girlfriend and her sister, and ended up corrupted by the fact that due to Dracula being gone until 100 years, he is pretty much useless, so he becomes the lord of the castle, get crazy and try to summon Dracula again (ignore the mind control stuff)
Oh these miserable little piles of secrets...
also Soma Cruz from Aria of Sorrow
Mada Faka Soma Cruz can become dracula in both aria and down of sorrow (bad endings)
And in the dos you can fight him
Which could be cool
But he uses only like 6 souls if we count teleportation and transformation
But it is still a good bossfight
Mada Faka on the plus side, you can get the good ending by destroying the orb above him, then destroying Dracula!
Gabriel Belmont becomes Dracula himself
Instead of wilhem you could picked handsome Jack who also was a hero and became a villain and its a more interesting character, and where's sephiroth? I think its the best example of a hero becoming villain in videogame history
David Santos jack always had villain intent Lilith just pushed him to insanity
@@darrenneves247 wilhelm was too because he was following jack's orders (sorry for my english, i'm spanish)
But, Handsome Jack is the hero in Borderlands 2.
Dirty Vault Hunters...
Sephiroth already started as a villain.
Sephiroth was a hero before the start of FF7. Cloud even looked up to him and was inspired to join S.O.L.D.I.E.R. because of him. check out Crisis Core.
“Did the writers have somewhere else to be?” 😂😂😂
"Someone will kick Albert"
*Jill pushes him off a window with herself going down as well*
"Or Jill will kick him"
Yeah Andy... she kicked him all right...
What about Spider-Man Edge of Time? I mean come on Peter Parker is literally the head of Alchemix! That's huge!
FireFox64000000 best game ever
I think its because he's more comic book character based but idk I love edge of time and shattered dimensions but I'm thinking they are sticking with more video game characters on this one
If Red dead redemption 2 was out at the time, I think Dutch Van Der Linde would have got his place in the list!
You never play as him
Delicious-Taco23 he’s still a hero at the beginning, also in red dead Charles is a hero the whole way, but u never play as him.
Dutch was a con man. Never a hero.
Shivam Modaim what does Charles have to do with Dutch
@@delicioustaco236 I swear I hate how often people get hero and protagonist confused.
I'm very, very surprised that The Infamous series' Kessler isn't on this list. It was one of the first games I ever played where it wasnt obvious at all that you were actually playing as the villain the whole time, before he even became the villain.
Resident evil 5 villain uses the RE 6 logo at the start 😂
Well yeah it kinda is as it’s the wrong logo
Also uses a Playstation X Button instead of the XBoX A button for the quicktime event.
General Lando Calrissian
Maybe becasue its played on a ps3/ps4 console. Heard of it?
Damanzz Maybe because the channel is called OutsideXBOX, you know i would have figured that they would have used XBOX footage, y,know, just saying. Smartass.
@@cripplingdepression1422
Wow sad life u have. Who Cares about that they use footage of a playstation system. Dumbass
No Alex Mercer for Prototype? I’m mean we wasn’t exactly a good person but... or even a hero really now that I think about it. Whatever I’m sure he fits the criteria somehow.
If they can have a mafia mass murder as a hero our genocidal virus deserves a spot!
HE was the first one I thought of when I saw this video
Personally I would like a character story where you start a hero become a villain and then do one last heroic sacrifice.
isaac flores I would also like that... just like Darth Vader
the Infamous games (emphasis on the first two) if you play them right
Yeah! Pretty much like this Uchiha guy (want to avoid spoilers!
Metal gear about the lady who sacrifice herself to be the villian in order to save the world from total war
ty so much for actually showing what spoilers games are instead of some nonsensical spoiler warning.
What about Alex Mercer from the Prototype series? He went from brooding goth antihero to megalomaniacal psycho in the span of like a year. It was a very jarring transition
Well he WAS the protagonist but you can't really call him a hero.
Not exactly in a year the comics explain that he tried to live a normal life in disguise and successfully did for a while until he revealed himself to his love interest who ended up betraying him.
After being scorned by humanity several times over the events of prototype 2 unfold
akinkymidgit that's still a fairly huge leap from not giving a shit either way
I don't know about you, but my Alex Mercer ate a LOT of innocent people in the first game I'd say calling him even an anti hero is a bit of a stretch.
The Chuck Greene one, was inaccurate because the reason he turned psychopath was because of an alternate ending. This follows Case: Zero however Chuck fails to give Katey Zombrex and starts to go insane. If you say, "What about Dead Rising 3?" I can explain that too. We don't know much, but I can only infer that Katey ran away. This causes Chuck to find her.
Dead rising 2-3 are canon. off the record isn't
Justinhulk Off The Record was based off another ending, causing the game to shift to its own new timeline of events. Very crazy indeed.
DR 3 continues from the A ending of DR2 (and case west expansion) where katey and her father are separated
Then, politics happened and it took years for them to join again (DR3)
serPomiz for DR2 how are you so sure
Off the Record is a “what if” story as in what if Frank West covered the Fortune City outbreak
Everything you said about Revan was brilliant Jane but I do have one question...why is Canderous so naked?
(Also IS THAT WHAT TOR REVAN'S VOICE ACTUALLY SOUNDS LIKE??)
Well there are two Revans in TOR one who is dark side & the other light so one sounds like a maniac and the other sounds like a bloodthirsty maniac with a cult... so any Player character really.
Was gonna ask the same thing about their Canderous........
Also how was Alex Mercer not on this list?
he was lowkey always bad
Alex Mercer literally eats people, he ain't good by any means.
@@14DANESSJ only bad people lol
@@noranradmusic Yes because no one is really innocent lol
Alex was kinda an anti hero
Kerrigan. Arthas. General Shepard in Call of Duty. Sniper Luigi.
I don't know about the two last ones, but I don't think Kerrigan and Arthas counts, on account of having the whole arc of "heroes to villains" occur too fast (basically, by act II of their first game appearance, it's done).
arthas and kerrigan count, they are like the poster people for heroes going villian
Kerrigan was never really evil. Sure she took over the Zerg swarm, killed... lots of people, but it was in an effort to bring about peace in the galaxy, which eventually worked... mostly.
Kerrigan was evil in starcraft 1. All she wanted to do was take over the Swarm for herself and would not hesitate to kill anyone who stand in her way. Kerrigan was the greatest villain of the starcraft series which is why many fan did not like it when Blizzard retcon her character in Heart of the Swarm to a good guy who was only under zerg influence.
red from pokemon
Katie in OTR died from being eaten by zombies, not from failing to get her Zombrex. The room at the beginning of the game where Chuck goes to retrieve Katie has her backpack laying on the floor covered with blood. Also you don't kill Chuck, he mysteriously disappears
The writers actually confirmed he survived.
@@RockLegend2000I find kinda pointless
mark Zuckerberg
He was a hero in the past?
Zuckerberg was definitely always evil.
Z U C C
Questionables who became Heroes.
Handsome Jack was basically forced into the bad guy role by the old vault hunters, change my mind.
Cant
We COULD count Alyn Shir from Kingdoms of Amalur. She did massacre a friendly patrol or two at the end, but we never really got answers for why she did it. Because.... [sniff] we never got a sequel [sniff] WE NEVER GOT A SEQUEL ELLEN
Pretty sure she did it because no one other than you, her and a select few others were even meant to know about tirnoch, and those patrols knew too much.
The impression that I got is that killing a few innocent people for the greater good wasn't really outside of Alyn Shir's character from the beginning of the game (or your pre-death character for that matter).
DARN IT YOU SPOILED IT I haven't finished that game yet!!!
Lt. Basil apologies, but it's several years old at this point, so I didn't feel the need for a spoiler warning
Neo Hamilton Basil, sorry. It's honestly not a huge plot point though
Emil from Nier and Nier Automata. In Nier, Emil is your companion, helping you before being joined into a robot body.
In Nier Automata, Emil is a fast paced moped hybrid vendor who becomes the secret boss, twice. Once in his moped form, and next as a big bug centipede/nuke bomb form. Both are easily the hardest bosses in the game due to being maxed level and the latter being considerably harder with a 10s countdown timer till nuke goes off.
Also Kain, from Soul Reaver? In Blood Omen he starts out as someone who refuses to become like Vorador, only the cannon ending shows that he forsakes the sacrifice and by Soul Reaver has single handedly doomed all of Nosgoth by becoming exactly Vorador like. Like ?!?!?
Devine Organ I was really hoping to see Kain on this list. Soul Reaver is one of my all time favorite games.
Further games show that Kain's actions are less villainous and more anti-hero level, as his actions are aimed to prevent the fall of the Pillars (which requires Vampire guardianship to maintain the Binding), while dealing with the Hylden trying to force their way back from banishment. Defiance's ending adds dealing with the Elder God to Kain's list.
Blood omen isn't famous enough. but I grew up playing that shit
Well he does become the hero again later in the series.
Chrono Critic well yeah, i have also played the whole series, but he's not a true antihero in my book anyway. He's inspired to trying to fix everything (as we do find out is a thing definitely by Soul Reaver 2 and is heavily referenced in Soul Reaver itself) only because he realizes an apocalyptic world kinda sucks to live in. The whole "saving Nosgoth" thing is purely coincidental to Kain's personal comfort. Raziel is the true antihero since he's inspired to action by revenge, but chooses to fix things as he can because he sees that people are suffering. Also, if we're claiming that by the end Kain redeemed himself, then I'd still argue that between Blood Omen and Soul Reaver, he's still 100% bad guy with no caveats.
yes, Jill is playable in many RE games, though if the series had to have a main protagonist, it would most likely be Chris. he survived the outbreak in Raccoon City, is the main rival of the main Antagonist, Albert Wesker, is clearly the most skilled with the most weapons in the series considering only he can use the laser that killed Alexia in Code Veronica, and the Gatling Gun in RE 5, and he can punch boulders without injury nor pain despite being just a normal human. as far as I recall Chris has never turned evil.
What about the reverse, where it’s more, live a villain and die a hero?
I want to see that now!
Jack Frost Haven’t watched DB yet but, yeah.
They already got "Villains who saved the world by accident" does that count?
I thought villains turned into heroes too (Zero I'm looking at you old pal!)
But that plot is typical...
I hope you all do a second list, because Artorias the Abysswalker needs to be included. He's one of my favorite characters in the series as well as in video games.
Gabriel Belmont from Castlevania (Lords of Shadows 2), or should i say Dracula?
I guess becoming Immortal vampire changes people.
Technically he is still a good guy in the second game in twisted and strange way.
Platonis The Warlock It -does- probably does
I was surprised he wasn't here
how about red from pokemon
Timothy Liu He didn't became a villain, he became a sage and decided to hangout at mountaintop or whatever
Everyone's a hero in their own story....and a villain in others story. Thats just the way life is.
Not really.
I don't think someone who raped thought of themselves as heroes in the moment.
Evil does exist. You hava a choice.
@@k626-l5h Yikes, real extreme there. Maybe Protagonist and Antagonist were more fitting.
As a resident of the moral high ground i must inform you that there are no cottages here. Don't worry though Jane, I'll be the bigger person and let you off for the error.
5:37 that voice crack
7 Villains Who Lived Long Enough To Become The Hero.
Kane Aquino yes
Zero?
I was more expecting handsome jack to be the just one. Especially when I saw “the pre sequel” in the spoiler warning.
the concept of becoming a villain is so awesome and angsty
Wait, u showed us RE6 logo but talked about RE5...
Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm
The Re - Return loving the profile tag I'm gonna like this just in hopes Mike sees it
The Re - Return i was thinking re5 would be on the list for that fight, but was suprised when i read re6, XD but still saw the fight
Hey, you've still got that profile picture? Nice!
Varun Chaturvedi i will NEVER change my profile picture, and i will always comment on every video so Mike doesn't forget how beautiful he is :)
Alex Mercer from prototype?
Tasso P Who? The mass murderer?
Ryan Paul in the second game yes but he's the player character in the first
I thought this as well
Tasso P when you play as him he's still commiting mass murder
+Ryan Paul not like the genetics facility that created Mercer was at all innocent
What about oblivion where no matter how lawful good your character you still become the god of madness eventually
You can also play as Nisha in the Borderlands Pre-Sequel, who is an optional boss in BL2 (as the sheriff of Lynchwood). Definitely not as tough of a fight as Wilhelm, but still.
So you picked Wilhelm and not jack ? Kinda weird to pick him since he TECHNICALLY was a vilain from the begining. And Jack litteraly live long enough to become the vilain the same way harvey did.
Sora Slyce Not to mention Jack's girlfriend. Another playable character in pre-sequel and optional boss in borderlands 2.
Borderlands is bad pick, all protagonists and side characters are dickhead, just ruthless mercenary not hero. You're right, Jack got mentally abused even by so-called "heroes" who did bad thing and backstabbing. Jack understands, being biggest dickhead is the best way to rule.
Wilhelm wasn't a villain he was just in it 4 the money
“Watch out for spoilers for the following games” *shows the games* Well I mean it’s too late now you already explained the premise of the video and now showing us these games is just spoiling them.
What's worse is that they had game spoilers before they even showed the spoiler warnings.
Sure, you're spoiled something like this will happen, but quick question, who will change?
I’m sorry but what in the actual fuck did you expect from a video titled “7 heroes who lived long enough to become the villain” from a channel named outsidexbox? A video essay on St. Catherine’s foreskin ring?
@@writheagainsoon he has a ugandan knuckles pfp so probably
Not to mention unless you already played the games (in which case spoilers are irrelevant) you would have no clue which characters were the hero turned villain, as Harus pointed out.
You could also include for the Pre-Sequel how you quite literally get to play as the biggest bad guy of them all, Jack himselves.
Did you actually play tps? You don’t play as jack, you play as Timothy Lawrence, a doppelgänger/ body double who only did it because he had massive student debt. Jack himself isn’t really a good guy in tps- he already has angel chained up to the control core during the events of tps.
No mention of the Warrior from Diablo I? He becomes possessed by Diablo as the Dark Wanderer, the bad guy in Diablo II.
How about the dark wanderer from Diablo 1 and two
Yeah, that was... interesting... you fight through the hordes of hell to stop the most powerful hell-lord from manifesting on earth.... and seal him in your own body? DUMB plan!
1:34 I'm sorry but what is that beard. New list: worst video game beards
It's Arthur's beard from Ghosts n' Goblins!
outsidexobx oooooooohhhhhhhhh I think Arthur wore it better
Max Littlewood that's because it's a fake beard prop you can wear from Ghost n' Goblins you uncultured swine!
Alex Mercer :D But i dont know ,in a good day i still woud call him an anti hero rather than an actual hero, yeah we saved brooklin from a nuke but devoured a bunch of unsuspecting civilians when needed to heal :D
He's an anti-hero, but a rather underdeveloped one. The only thing he basically understands is "everyone is trying to kill me, so I must kill EVERYTHING!". Hes got about as much personality as the Chosen Undead.
@@HybridSpektar yeah exacthly that is what is the story about thet he forgets everything about his past and then he tries to uncowher who is he/who he was :D
No hero would devoured a bunch of unsuspecting civilians. Dude's a plain monster
@@14DANESSJ Anti-hero
I miss the Army of Two games. 😟
Me too.I hate that they made Salem a villian.
Hugh Caires same
I hate the playable characters from devils cartel though i miss playing as Salem amd Rios
I’d rather play as Salem and Rios or pike and Bradley my favs
I miss the Dead to Rights games.
Would Bioshock Infinites Protagonist count as a Hero which also is the villian? Its a bit more complicated , but I would argue that he should count as a villian, after all Comstock is an older version of Booker and we sort of are " fighting" him too.
DerultimativeOzzy using the same logic surely cole from infamous would count
Aw, no Alex Mercer from [Prototype] or is it because he wasn't really clearly a hero in the first one?
Death Angel he was an anti hero
At best, so was the boss from saints row. Mercer definitely shouldve should've counted.
he was never good
Neither was the boss of the Saints.
@@akumabazooka9169 the real Alex Mercer I'll agree with you on that about, but the character you play as isn't the real Alex Mercer. While I'd definitely agree that he was an anti-hero he still risked his life to save the population of Manhattan from getting nuked
What about big boss, y'know, the difference between him in mgs3, peace walker to ground zeroes couldn't be truer.
@QUEENDOM True, could say the same about almost everything though. Evil and Good are only in the eye in the beholder ig.
Should've been number 1
You missed Alex Mercer from Prototype 1 and 2
Ghost Ninja wow im dissapointed in you
I mean if I had Jill Valentine working for me I'd tell her to do back flips in a skin tight catsuit too
What about celebrimbore in shadow of war
He was always a villain, its just that Talion was too dumb to realize it. Pretty much all of his lines were from a supervillain monologue.
They won't mention him because none of them want to try to pronounce his name (again).
Celebrimbor was always a douche. Just look what he did to Bruz!
He wasn't always a villain. Did you ever play the Bright Lord DLC? He just wanted to save his family and help Middle Earth, but the longer he wore the Ring, the more you could see him becoming evil and power hungry.
Celebrimbor at the beginning of the DLC: "The Dark Lord has the One Ring. If I do not stand against him, Middle Earth will fall."
Celebrimbor at the end of the DLC: "You have no claim, Deceiver! I AM THE TRUE LORD OF THE RINGS!!!"
So yeah, Celebrimbor would've fit into this video.
Lance “Richard” Vance from GTA: Vice City?
He helps you out for most of the game by showing you how to buy weapons and helping you in several jobs, including setting up your criminal empire, and then betrays you in the final mission all because he feels “left out.”
Ryder,Big smoke
Your just one of them nutbars (turns into a snickers)
lmao
*You're not you when you're hungry*
Guitar Ed 😂😂😂
I would have said a Payday.