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nice but now iran have f-5 (HESA) kowsar . its more better than some modern jets like f-16 or su-27 . it may get win from f-22 and f-35 too . i hope one day you fly this jet in dcs . thank you 😉😉
Look into my eyes. 😳You are getting sleepy, sleepy, sleeeepppyyy. You want to do the Bf109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight! You want to do the Bf109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight! When I say Farfegnugen you will wake up, feel refreshed and you will feel a strong desire to do the Bf 109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight. Life will feel empty until you do the Bf 109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight! *Farfegnugen*
Haven’t even watched it yet, and I’m here to beg for more of this. The frontline US and Russian types are cool, but I love these kinds of smaller plane matchups.
The 13th Warrior has a great line for what just happened. The goes "It's lucky that often saves a man if his courage holds". That line has always stuck with me when I heard it because it's pretty accurate.
Looks like Taco was actually doing a great job with F1. While it was pretty much outmatch in most ways by the F-5 he still managed to get some useful AoA out of that thing at times while mostly managing the energy.
Every time i see you in an Iranian colors and camo that bringing joy to my heart Thanks a lot for your great and also historical accurate content You are the best
@@adamlannerd1408 I agree. I also love the A 4 because my dad flies it. He's learning the F 1 right now, the only good thing he has to say about it is its fast, mach 2.2
@@braedynhoward3644 That's pretty much what it was designed to be, since it was originally meant as an interceptor. You can tell from just looking at it that it wasn't supposed to dogfight.
The F1 doesn't seem to be doing too well in these matchups. So far I think it only performed favorably against the MiG-21 and even then it didn't seem that clear cut.
@@Lexoka maybe, though there is a lot to make up for with the F1, maybe there are some pilot issues, but I have not been impressed with the F1 when encountering it.
One reason why the F-5 is so underrated is because people fail to appreciate how much yaw authority it has at lower speeds. When you get down under 300 knots, a lot of light fighters tend to lose some yaw authority. The slower the F-5 gets, the better it gets at pointing its nose. That can be a massive advantage when the other guy has to pull hard pitch to turn while you can just bank a little, stand on that rudder pedal and hose him. Get the F-1 low and slow and he's dog meat. That's why they had to change the rules to favour long-range missile engagements at Miramar and Nellis after the aggressors switched to Tiger II's. The F-14 and F-15 guys were getting trounced, and were becoming demoralised! The general consensus was that with enough Tiger II's around, the big, expensive fighters stood no chance of achieving their mission objectives.🤣 Gotta love that sweet little F5!😉
Taco went full boom and zoom tactics in the end to get the edge, which is most often tall tail sign that the Mirage has no maneuvering advantage in the fight
Man i swear i asked for this yesterday and it comes out today. Legend. Special thanks to Taco for coming out and flying the jet that seems to just exist to be a jobber for other jets. What can the F-1 reliably beat? A4 Skyhawk mod probably has a climb disadvantage but might still be better.
The "Cold War" is the new war in DCS... Can't wait for more of these legacy aircraft to hit the market! Time to dust off the F-5 and get the head tracker finally... The skies are calling my name! As always, thanks for the great content!
GS credits him a victory purely out of good sportsmanship. He even admits that the F1 pilot technically lost since he died and GS lived despite both aircraft being destroyed.
The more fights ya do the less competitive the F-1 appears to be… at least amongst comparative aircraft of the era. Pit it against something from last model year and maybe it’ll win 🙃
What competitive aircraft of the era? THe MiG21Bis is 1985. The F14A is a late 70s bird and the equivalent in it's day of an F22. The Mirage F1's only peer so far shown is the F5, and I've been killing those in my F1 with ease. It's like people don't know the basics of fox 1 tactics with poor look down radars. You fly lower than the enemy with an early dive, that's all. They dive too late, and eat the missile.
These engagements are really great as they highlight the relevance of some of the older aircraft (production wise) in the DCS stable. Being able to see dogfights that actually happened is fantastic. Thanks for these! :)
You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting. Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements. Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.
You're really committed to this, your idea is interesting. 5 or 6 rounds means having 5 or 6 different jets that the bandit has to own and be proficient with, as I don't think seeing GS do the equivalent of clubbing baby seals would be very entertaining for some people.
Hey, I watch a lot of your videos and I really like what you do with the replays and camera angles that you use to really get a good view of the fight!! I fight my buddy a lot in DCS and was wondering how you get to these replays and camera angles? Thank you and keep up the great videos!!
It would be good if in round 2, you exchanged the planes so we know if you have shot it down by skill of the pilot or is one plane better than another , great videos , congrats !!!
The Mirage F.1 would have an advantage in top speed, climb, acceleration, radar, and SARH missiles. The F-5 has an advantage in maneuverability, angle of attack, visibility, and slow-speed handling. Combat records: F-5 - 25 air-to-air kills, 23 air-to-air losses, and 30 losses to ground fire. Mirage F.1 - 24 air-to-air kills, 43 air-to-air losses, and 20 losses to ground fire.
@@hansstopfer878 Obviously you missed the reference from the original Top Gun Movie where Goose says "Mig 28?... No one's been this close before!!" Just figured everyone on the Planet would know that...
Hello, if you do another F5 vs Mig 21 video, can you use the Cuban Air Force skin for the Mig and the Mexican Air Force skin for the F5? I think some combat in the americas would be cool.
@@krismurphy7711 - Like most 30 mm guns, the number of rounds available, muzzle velocity, and trajectory aren't as good as a 20 mm. They do more damage but are harder to put on target. The M39 round has a good muzzle velocity, good trajectory, good ammunition supply, and a high rate of fire.
@@rogerpennel1798 Dont Russian jets have rotary 30 mm cannons?? I know from watching that when French, Brit, Russian 30mm rounds inpact, it seems one is enough??? What have I been missing?
We just had some Romanian pilots turn up at work for training, they're MiG-21 LanceR drivers out to take hold of the mighty Viper. So, Fishbed v. Viper video? Is there anything a legacy platform like the Fishbed can do against the Viper with the various tools at it's disposal?
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
The Iranians have built a variant of the F-5 where they added a dual vertical stabilizer.. I wonder how that enhances the performance if it all? Asking as a non-pilot.
Don't be confused by the apparent performance characteristics of those 2 jets. Those fights were won by superior flying skills(pilot shit). The one lost round came from a pilot mistake. I have no doubt the score would have been reversed if Luke Skywinder had been in the F1.
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Thanks for watching guys, thank you all who suggested this video, it turned out to be a pretty cool fight I really enjoyed doing it. Thanks again guys, take care and much love.
One question. Do you still use your pimax for videos? Or just track ir?
nice but now iran have f-5 (HESA) kowsar . its more better than some modern jets like f-16 or su-27 . it may get win from f-22 and f-35 too . i hope one day you fly this jet in dcs . thank you
😉😉
Look into my eyes. 😳You are getting sleepy, sleepy, sleeeepppyyy.
You want to do the Bf109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight! You want to do the Bf109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight!
When I say Farfegnugen you will wake up, feel refreshed and you will feel a strong desire to do the Bf 109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight.
Life will feel empty until you do the Bf 109 vs. the Fw 190 dogfight!
*Farfegnugen*
GS you are one of the few guys whi spells Iran correctly . thank you
im still here man 11:41
Haven’t even watched it yet, and I’m here to beg for more of this. The frontline US and Russian types are cool, but I love these kinds of smaller plane matchups.
The flyby at 10:12 needs to be in the trailer for DCS. That’s one of the coolest kills I’ve seen in the game.
totally agree :D
The 13th Warrior has a great line for what just happened. The goes "It's lucky that often saves a man if his courage holds". That line has always stuck with me when I heard it because it's pretty accurate.
Looks like Taco was actually doing a great job with F1. While it was pretty much outmatch in most ways by the F-5 he still managed to get some useful AoA out of that thing at times while mostly managing the energy.
Every time i see you in an Iranian colors and camo that bringing joy to my heart
Thanks a lot for your great and also historical accurate content
You are the best
I spent 11 months in Iraq (I'm and American) and I have always liked the Middle East and the people there.
This video shows why I love the f5. It's just simply a nice little plane. Good mobility, nice guns, great looks and even an interesting history.
Same with the A-4, cool little jets.
@@adamlannerd1408 I agree. I also love the A 4 because my dad flies it. He's learning the F 1 right now, the only good thing he has to say about it is its fast, mach 2.2
very underpowered though
@@braedynhoward3644 That's pretty much what it was designed to be, since it was originally meant as an interceptor. You can tell from just looking at it that it wasn't supposed to dogfight.
F16 and f18 are base on f5
Dude, you are reading my mind. First F1 vs Viggen and now the F5. Way to go. 👍🏽
Just wish it was a JA37 and not an AJ37 in DCS
The F1 doesn't seem to be doing too well in these matchups. So far I think it only performed favorably against the MiG-21 and even then it didn't seem that clear cut.
The F1 also has Fox 1 missiles. The F-5 can do well after the merge, but a good F1 should have won the fight before then.
@@BulletRain100 it would be able to use those fox1s if it had a good radar… The radar losing lock probably would doom the F1.
@@hook86 Yeah, but I will say it is a lot easier said than done. GS is literally a god at DCS.
@@loh1945 It might be enough to get the F-5 defensive for a few moments, forcing it to merge in an unfavorable position.
@@Lexoka maybe, though there is a lot to make up for with the F1, maybe there are some pilot issues, but I have not been impressed with the F1 when encountering it.
Gotta love the F-5. The Miata/FRS/BRZ/Lotus Elise of the jet fighter world. Not the flashiest, but a pure joy to fly.
One reason why the F-5 is so underrated is because people fail to appreciate how much yaw authority it has at lower speeds. When you get down under 300 knots, a lot of light fighters tend to lose some yaw authority. The slower the F-5 gets, the better it gets at pointing its nose. That can be a massive advantage when the other guy has to pull hard pitch to turn while you can just bank a little, stand on that rudder pedal and hose him. Get the F-1 low and slow and he's dog meat.
That's why they had to change the rules to favour long-range missile engagements at Miramar and Nellis after the aggressors switched to Tiger II's. The F-14 and F-15 guys were getting trounced, and were becoming demoralised! The general consensus was that with enough Tiger II's around, the big, expensive fighters stood no chance of achieving their mission objectives.🤣
Gotta love that sweet little F5!😉
Taco went full boom and zoom tactics in the end to get the edge, which is most often tall tail sign that the Mirage has no maneuvering advantage in the fight
Yes, I've been asking for this one. After seeing you fly the Viggen I'd like to see what an F5 v Viggen matchup would look like
The cinematic at the end of Round 3 was pretty cool.
Can't wait for the F-5 update that was mentioned a few months back, could use some love!!
for some reason this battle was even more exciting, maybe the old school vibes
I like how GS has dealt with the lack of a radar gunsight in some recent videos by just firing any time he thinks he might have a shot.
His gunnery has improved a lot over the years.
In the famous words of Viper: Hard deck exist for your own safety!
I am from iran. Thank you so much for your games over Iran Air Force. Pleas have a game about dogfight of iranians phantoms
Man i swear i asked for this yesterday and it comes out today. Legend. Special thanks to Taco for coming out and flying the jet that seems to just exist to be a jobber for other jets. What can the F-1 reliably beat? A4 Skyhawk mod probably has a climb disadvantage but might still be better.
A few days ago I look in this channel F-1 beat Tomcat - very interesting fights
F-5 are a legendary figther, still in service in many countries and keeping up with 4 generation like the Brazilian F-5em.
This was a pretty good dogfight. Props to the mirage pilot, he did a great job of utilizing the very few strategies he could pull off.
The "Cold War" is the new war in DCS... Can't wait for more of these legacy aircraft to hit the market! Time to dust off the F-5 and get the head tracker finally... The skies are calling my name!
As always, thanks for the great content!
The aircraft crash graphivs by DCS are nothing short of superb :) ... really great video series starring the Mirage F1, thanks a lot for making it.
Lol, an F-5 shooting down a MIG-25 is just maximum disrespect.
I don’t play DCS, but this is by far my favorite TH-cam channel
Finally we have seen some great movements from mirage in Round 4 !! Those snapshots against GS !!! Is not easy .
I’ve been waiting for this thank you!!!
One might call that second round a "Pyrrhic" Victory for the F1... Love the Videos!! Keep them coming GS
GS credits him a victory purely out of good sportsmanship. He even admits that the F1 pilot technically lost since he died and GS lived despite both aircraft being destroyed.
@@NuclearFalcon146 It was a hell of a move by Taco though, I can't imagine making the F1 even get that shot is easy.
I wonder if one of the bursts GS sent his way before might have connected.
@@__-fm5qv Like I said, GS showed sportsmanship with that one for such reasons... as well as just general good manners.
I love how you got tones on the Sun at 13:04!
F5, first jet foe me in DCS years ago... wish I had one as a private jet! ; )
The more fights ya do the less competitive the F-1 appears to be… at least amongst comparative aircraft of the era. Pit it against something from last model year and maybe it’ll win 🙃
What competitive aircraft of the era? THe MiG21Bis is 1985. The F14A is a late 70s bird and the equivalent in it's day of an F22. The Mirage F1's only peer so far shown is the F5, and I've been killing those in my F1 with ease. It's like people don't know the basics of fox 1 tactics with poor look down radars. You fly lower than the enemy with an early dive, that's all. They dive too late, and eat the missile.
@@Eleolius correction
Mig-21bis entered service in 1972
that recovery attempt after his kill on GS, I could feel his soul ejecting out of the cockpit without his body
What a cool flyby after Fox 2 kill
Thank you GS for the video (just finished Round 2). Always an insta-watch and like when I get the alert.
That F-5 is a nice looking aircraft. Great battles!
That swoop close to your opponent's wreckage was Hollywood.
Round two was definitely your win. Only one pilot walked away from that fight.
6:17
Survives dogfight and ejection . . . . . . .gets BBQ WELL DONE by own plane on ground ! !
6:36 Instant Karma Kill ! !
I love the variation of dogfights very much. Would love to see a dogfight with the MiG-19
I always liked the look of the F-5. It just looks right.
Would’ve been funny if you did a POV from that dudes porch watching the missle fly right at him 2:10
These engagements are really great as they highlight the relevance of some of the older aircraft (production wise) in the DCS stable. Being able to see dogfights that actually happened is fantastic. Thanks for these! :)
GS: "Missile hit by that guy's house. Hope he wasn't home."
Guy: "Oh my god you hit my goat!"
Well done Taco, he made you work for those kills ;)
Well look at this! I went to Rubio's for dinner tonight and came home to see it's Taco Tuesday all over again. Thanks, GS. You're the best!
12:21
It's a very good tactic for the Mirage and yet you keep playing right into his hands. . . . . . .LOLOL
He was really fighting for every foot of sky in that last one.
gotta love the exaggerated "t" on rate XD must be from all the misunderstanding on rate fight XD
You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting.
Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements.
Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.
You're really committed to this, your idea is interesting. 5 or 6 rounds means having 5 or 6 different jets that the bandit has to own and be proficient with, as I don't think seeing GS do the equivalent of clubbing baby seals would be very entertaining for some people.
Keep going buddy
The "Hope he wasn't home" bid got me XD
have always loved the F-5 ever since playing Ace Combat 05 as a kid, cute little plane they look stunning in all black as aggressors.
Ace Combat *for life*
Ace Wombat> Ace Combat
The name of iranian F5 pilot who killed Mig25 (with guns) is Muhammad Zareh Nezhad. He was one the best f5 pilots in the iran, iraq war
When that Battlefield Theme kicks in! ;D
Good job dude... From Iran we like you
Hey, I watch a lot of your videos and I really like what you do with the replays and camera angles that you use to really get a good view of the fight!! I fight my buddy a lot in DCS and was wondering how you get to these replays and camera angles? Thank you and keep up the great videos!!
Bit disappointed by the F1 flight model in DCS. Dassault planes are normally dominant and the F1 had a good reputation.
It would be good if in round 2, you exchanged the planes so we know if you have shot it down by skill of the pilot or is one plane better than another , great videos , congrats !!!
Maneuver kill plus you ejected and lived…whelp! I call that a victory.
Love the slo-mo gun camera!
the energy trap in the first fight was sick
"Hope he wasn't home."
Or, like Long Shot says. "Let's hope that guy's an asshole".
Hey GS, can you do more fights between the types used in the South African Border war? F1 vs Mig23, Impala vs Mig19 / 21 etc? Thanks!
Awesome video, I really like the F5, kind of a silent killer, doesn’t look like a killer, but those 20mm nose cannons do the job……
IRL though in round 2, its still your victory because your pilot walked out alive and his didn't
The Mirage F.1 would have an advantage in top speed, climb, acceleration, radar, and SARH missiles. The F-5 has an advantage in maneuverability, angle of attack, visibility, and slow-speed handling.
Combat records:
F-5 - 25 air-to-air kills, 23 air-to-air losses, and 30 losses to ground fire.
Mirage F.1 - 24 air-to-air kills, 43 air-to-air losses, and 20 losses to ground fire.
Why did the developer bother? The F1 is all over DCS and it just seems a bit crap.
@@richardjoseph9002 The f1 does just fine against aircraft of its era. And when used properly. I’m not sure what your issue is with it
That's crazy, does the F5 have some type of cowling that opens when the cannons fire?
I think the F-5 versus the viggen would be an interesting fight
Feels like every time the F-1 is being featured on this channel, it comes away in pieces...
And why do you think that is? An f1 vs f15 or f16 fight isn’t exactly even.
awesome video! I need a cigarette after that last round. I sure do enjoy having a new aircraft to watch. Anybody else stoked for the F4?
9:46 You were totally hitting that powerline if it had collisions in DCS.
well it might look like that but in the replay you can see I'm below it.
Better to be singed than burned strawberry jam.
Awsome video man keep this kinda videos coming
Second, also loving how GS is going old school here. Still wanting a bomber intercept/bomber escort mission.
That's not an F5, it's a MiG 28.
Nobody's been this close before!! 🤣🤣🤣
A MIG 28 was never known or produced.
@@hansstopfer878 Obviously you missed the reference from the original Top Gun Movie where Goose says "Mig 28?... No one's been this close before!!" Just figured everyone on the Planet would know that...
Beautiful 🙏
Glad you did it !!
Lmao, he wasn't even close to pulling out of that second fight
Hello, if you do another F5 vs Mig 21 video, can you use the Cuban Air Force skin for the Mig and the Mexican Air Force skin for the F5? I think some combat in the americas would be cool.
You are an apex predatotor !One of the best love watching you fight!
Such a HUGE difference between damage from 30MM vs 20MM. If the F5's had 30's, three of your fights would have ended much sooner.
The M39, DEFA, and ADEN cannons were all derived from the Mauser MG213. They are all revolver cannons.
@@rogerpennel1798 good guns…. Caliber is the comment. M61 better. GAU-8 supreme
@@krismurphy7711 - Like most 30 mm guns, the number of rounds available, muzzle velocity, and trajectory aren't as good as a 20 mm. They do more damage but are harder to put on target. The M39 round has a good muzzle velocity, good trajectory, good ammunition supply, and a high rate of fire.
@@rogerpennel1798 Dont Russian jets have rotary 30 mm cannons?? I know from watching that when French, Brit, Russian 30mm rounds inpact, it seems one is enough??? What have I been missing?
@@rogerpennel1798 When watching the slo mo of the gun tracers, obviously there was a significant reduction in rounds spewing out of the F5
Could you do a video contrasting the F5 and MiG21? I always thought the F5 was better but I've heard people say the opposite
The f5 is deff better. Mig21 hardly stands a chance with opposition of equal skill.
@@GrowlingSidewinder ok cool. Thanks
Awesome the f-5 is one of my favorite planes. Can you please do more tac view though would have loved a break down of the fight?
You won that 2nd round. You lived, he died.
We just had some Romanian pilots turn up at work for training, they're MiG-21 LanceR drivers out to take hold of the mighty Viper.
So, Fishbed v. Viper video? Is there anything a legacy platform like the Fishbed can do against the Viper with the various tools at it's disposal?
Thanks to top gun, I confused F5 s with MIGs for years.
Yes! I was waiting for this one **grabs popcorn**
I wanna see some more F4E fights
He was Home, he's OK but,,,,,,,you killed his Dog!🤣🤣🤣
DCS Lives Matter. 🤣
The mirage style of fight look like more a hit and run than a circle fighter. I guess with time players will learn to play it better and better.
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
Right, I agree. The mirage f1 seems to get bashed pretty hard by newbies who don’t know how to play DCS. Anyone who has any clue what they are doing seems to do fine
Nice, do you have F20 Tiger shark. I know it is a prototype but wondering what it can do against others.
I feel like this is the most even match up I have yet to watch it yet but these two seem to be evenly matched if you ask me we’ll see
It is. The f5 and f1 are fun to use against each other. Because where the f1 has its advantages the f5 does too
The Iranians have built a variant of the F-5 where they added a dual vertical stabilizer.. I wonder how that enhances the performance if it all? Asking as a non-pilot.
Don't be confused by the apparent performance characteristics of those 2 jets. Those fights were won by superior flying skills(pilot shit).
The one lost round came from a pilot mistake. I have no doubt the score would have been reversed if Luke Skywinder had been in the F1.
Shame he couldn't pull out after he killed you because that maneuvering and gunnery we're chef's kiss
you were still breathing and he wasnt; so yeah you win! regardless of who shot whom!
So the plane we almost sold to Iranians against the plane that used the bombs a fellow citizen sold to the Iraquis. Quite close to my heart
My dad flew the f-5 for the Iranian Air Force before the revolution.
Dear GS,
Do you have the Star Wars mods in your DCS arsenal? Would be curious to see one of these 1v1 dogfights vs something like a X-Wing
Great job as always