How The Acolyte Episode 3 DESTROYS Star Wars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- A video essay diving into 3 main reasons as to why The Acolyte Episode 3 destroyed Star Wars. I take the gloves off in this review and really point out how the canon gets ruined and how terrible the plot is.
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Chapters:
Breaking Canon (0:00)
Injecting Politics at the expense of Canon (5:21)
Extremely dumb plot beat (8:01)
Thanks for watching Acolyte, so we won't have too.
bet u still watched it xD
@@chaosiscoming9184 nope, I'm not going to waste time watching trash.
I knew it was bad the moment I heard the director thought Frozen was a sister lesbian love story.
I don't need to step into a snake pit to know it is bad
@@chaos_knight_xya sister what now?
My friends at work kept on recommending that I watch Acolyte. Should I do it or bail out?
@@samflood5631do not watch it
How do you fumble the entire theme of the first 6 movies. Anakins fallen messiah arc was like the crux of the story?
No, it wasn't. The messianic themes were not implemented until the prequel trilogy, and using them in the first place was a huge mistake. Vader in the original trilogy was just a Jedi who had fallen to the Dark Side, not a prophetic figure being warred over by two different cults in the Jedi and Sith. He wasn't even the highest-ranking subordinate in the Galactic Empire. The main focus of the original trilogy where the Force is concerned is on Luke trying to avoid falling as his father did, whilst also proving that someone can come back in defiance of the odds. It is far simpler and far better as a result.
@@RenegadeShepTheSpacer The overall arc of the prequels story was pretty good imo. just executed poorly
@@RenegadeShepTheSpaceryeah,but it did not contridict anything with the OT. And actually add a lot extra depth.
@@RenegadeShepTheSpacer "In the original trilogy Darth Vader was just some weirdo in a suit enforcing the empires will - he was NOT space jesus!"
if you know you know
Oh so we're pretending that was ever a good idea?
"We do not take children"
*Two seconds later*
"Let us take your children"
“With your permission of course”
It is different. Like if someone shows up to take a kid to an all expenses paid scholarship at a private school.
As long as it really is a choice and you can say no if you want to, it's fine.
so i was really done at this point for that reason
I like how Disney is making the Prequel trilogy look like the Godfather part I and II 😅
You don't like the prequels?
@@PlagueFather I have the video cassette set of the Prequels
The Phentom Menace,
Attack of the Clones,
Revenge of the Sith...do you?
@@PlagueFather Phantom Menace is levels above this shit, at least it had cools locations and visuals and a pod race. This shows has nothing
@@neoluthuli3254 i do love the prequels. It sounded like you didn't from the comment
@@PlagueFather reread my comment again
The prequels already showed the Jedi in a bad, but nuanced, light. They always had good intentions, but were so caught up in their internal politics, and had become so complacent and disconnected with ordinary people that they were blind to Palpatine's plan.
"How can fire undo stone?"
"The thread is a pathway to many abilities SOME consider to be unnatural."
It's "How can fire invoke stone?"
@@Soniti1324 I'm quoting grima from lord of the rings.
Reminder the director, Leslie squarehead was personal assistant to Harvey Weinstein
It's OK because she's gay and Star Wars saved her life.
She can keep a secret and has low morals
That's why she is where she is
Oh God
wait. what?
LH is there to assist Kathleen Kennedy to do to Star Wars what HW did to certain people.
You know shit’s really fucked when Supercuts Delight has to make a video about it.
He was totally correct with the GoT assessment, rn he's just milking the 'fan' outrage.
This is exactly what I thought when I saw his video 😅
@@Necroside145He doesn't really do the culture war fan outrage thing from what I've seen
Every TH-camrs that I've known are totally broken and give up with Star Wars because of Episode 3 of The Acolyte:
-Jeremy Jahns
-Supercut Delight
-Angry Joe
-Critical Drinker
And remember, this is not even the first half of the show since the show has 8 episode in total
Well i have a bad feeling that ep 4 is going to be much worse than ep 3.
What makes you say that?
@@samflood5631I have a bad feelings about this
@@samflood5631 give me ring of power vibes. thats is why.
Disney has fumbled with Star Wars so much that I can't accept anything it does as canon. To me, this show does not exist
Sequels and onward are not canon for me basically lol
The only Disney Star wars content I accept as cannon is Rogue one, Rebels and Andor
Perhaps We Treated The Return of Emperor Palpatine and Rey ‘Skywalker’ too harshly.
Nah. That shit was the beginning of it.
Still is shit!!!
Shit does not excuse shit
Is that how bad this episode is? Hohohoho boy...
maybe Phantom Menace was the greatest movie ever made and we just didn't know it
Its like making a Toy Story prequel where Andy had a secret cowboy toy he used when he got bored of woody.
The Last Jedi, as lore breakingly bad as it is, at least had the plus side of not being boring. This breaks lore in horrible ways AND is just plain boring! 180 mil down the drain for Headland's little therapy session.
Yeah, at least I can go back to The Last Jedi and be floored by the outstanding cinematography and even though some of the action doesn't make sense, it still looks great. Can't say the same for most of these Disney+ shows.
Worse part is the therapy session didn’t work cause she’s gonna defend this forever. You’d think she (and Disney) would reflect finally but it’s so much easier to blame us instead so
@@SupercutsDelight Andor and the Mandalorian (S1-2) were peak SW. The rest is just filler or pure trash.
Meanwhile an empty hour in the middle of the movie that doesnt bring anything to it exept THE MESSAGE that "capitalism" is bad
@@Fouetzky This. It absolutely astonishes me that Disney haven't looked at what made those shows great and realised they already have the catalyst for quality television that fans enjoy.
2:30
The whole point of Prequalls is to show Jedis are lost their way. But it also make sure they are not outright bad guys. Still good at their cores.
This show straight up ignores it.
Which is specially weird when you remember that the whole point of "The High Republic" is that the republic is at (Because a strong, independent woman is running the senate) and Jedi are at the zenith of their nobility, full on super heroes BECAUSE they were a very "diverse and inclusive" organisation. And NOW they want to introduce nuance even though they stablished that everything was sunshine and rainbows back then??
@@Halfort57 yeah. They choose the worst time for make them morally gray. İt would make more sense ıf they were a few rouge jedi,ans Master Soul is a spy amoung them.
man when supercuts is mad...you know you fucked up
It's just beyond comprehension how they could be so out of touch or just don't care.
Both
The people who make these crap modern shows and movies aren't the people who loved the material since they were kids. Time and time again they showed that they don't care about the lore and think it's outdated needing a "modern" reinterpretation . It is what happens when all you give a fuck about is how to come off as more dei than having a good story.
It's an agenda.
Those people are the types who couldn't distinguish fantasy and reality
money laundering scheme
"The Power of One, The Power of Two, The Power of Manyyyyy" is really lazy writing and really sounds like it was written for children.
They're pushing their agenda towards children whose parents support LGBTQ+
I’ve never been bored watching a Star Wars project, even with Book of Boba or Rise of Skywalker, I could have fun making fun of it, but with this all I thought when I was watching was ‘Get On With It Already!’
This show is sponsored by Vought.
#justiceforhomelander
Nah, even Vought will not sponsor this show
Underrated comment😂
Honestly, Disney are suicidal at this point.
The thread is just the way the witches perceive the force. It would be actually nonsense if everybody in the whole GALAXY was feeling and explaining the force the same way as the Jedi, especially a hidden tribe like them.
Yoda explained the force in empire strikes back.
The only thing I saw differently is the fact that the Jedi would prevent people from training Force sensitive children. I thought it could make sense, as they would think that children trained by other people, without Jedi supervision and without following their rules and laws would be more susceptible to falling to the Dark Side.
Jedi "kidnapping" children makes sense, because unsupervized force users always caused galactic scale conflicts.
@@russianoverkill3715 palpatine, dooku meanwhile
To my understanding the Jedi consider any force teaching outside there control as a potential path to the dark side
@@russianoverkill3715and yet, 99% of dark side users are former Jedi……
@@officialthomasjames not really, it's 1% of the sith who were jedi.
It's a bit hypocritical for Disney to call out the Jedi for targeting children with their ideology.
What do you mean?
Calm down 😂
You mean the way churches do? Don’t see what that has to do with Disney…
Maybe the fire was a sabotage action from the Sith? That would be the only semi-logical and not-canon-breaking solution.
@@Medaumplay3This takes place 100 years before Phantom Menace and the Sith are 100% around. They have existed for almost as long as the Jedi have. I don’t think a Sith started the fire but they are definitely around in this time period.
@@TheGravytrain Star Wars Legends ( books now no longer canon) darth plagueis also tried to create life with the force.
So they might go for a timeline where plagueis was inspired to try it after learning of events we see in this series as it shows it is possible.
@@Medaumplay3 Huh? The sith has existed for thousands of years at this point…
Nothing in Disney is Canon who decide is real fans@@TheGravytrain
@@viniciuscardoso8056 Disney cannon or Legends or even just George Lucas’ cannon can’t change the fact that the Sith are 100% around during this time period.
I can excuse the force impregnation thing IF they make it some type of experiment Plagueis was doing since that would fit, although his experiments were failures, but to be honest I doubt the writers even know who Plagueis is.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
"the universe doesn't like women like us"
Escapist media is just not allowed to exist nowadays, I guess.
Black mothers and black children without fathers - disney
I think in the story they were relating this to Witches. But maybe there is subtext, or not... Depends how you want to take it.
@@george-mattgrounder-bentle9019 ya the subtext is they don't like women lmao
Disney once again showing us how what nepotism and infinite meddling by higher ups in a company looks like.
The worst part is that they all knew this would upset the fans and they still did it with a smile on their faces smh
Its like they don't want this franchise to survive
That’s the whole point, nail in your political beliefs and try to force feed the trash to as many consumers as possible regardless of quality. They had zero intention of making a quality story, but rather political propaganda to force to the masses.
THIS destroyed Star Wars, THAT destroyed Star Wars. I've heard it MANY times.
I've been an avid critic of this show, however one thing i like is the re-evaluation of the Jedi's moral high ground. The Jedi take children away from their family and train them to cut all attachments from said family. You cannot in good faith buy into that story without questioning that aspect of Jedi Recruitment. The Jedi are not the sole authority of the force, the lore establishes that their are other force wielding groups in the galaxy. Therefore there cannot be one singular understanding of the force and how it can be used.
The birth of Anakin is basically an immaculate conception as it had no male input. Palpatine aluded to a manipulation of life when he was enticing Anakin to the dark side. The difference is that these twins were created using the "dark" side of the force. The two of them embody both sides of the force. I dunno about you guys but as I've grown older i have found myself constantly re-evaluating things like religion and spirituality.
I think thats whats happening here.
As a show it's bad - mid from all technical aspects.But the force, its understanding, and applications have limitless potential. I'm not mad about the Jedi's portrayal, as the whole point of the prequels was to show how the Jedi went from being a spiritual order to becoming politicians and soldiers (even if the circumstances could be justified) The clone wars dive deeper into that as well by showing how several Jedi became disillusioned and rebeled against the order and what it had become.
Exactly. Star wars already grown from the "jedi good, sith bad" in comics, books, and games. Now they're taking inspiration in those to make live action. Don't think the show is good so far, basically because of how the narrative and plot evolves, but the fact that jedis can do bad things and see the consequences, while other groups appear with different "doctrines" about the force isn't one of the low points. Maybe a better writer/screenwriter/showrunner/director, could do a better job with the same ideas.
It's worse than you described, while the little girl is struggling with her conflicted emotions. Wanting to travel the universe and meet knew people at the sametime she doesn't want to abandon and let down her family. So what does Jedi say to this little kid when he sees her struggling to decide? If you come with us, you'll never feel like this again.
That's some sith level's of seduction.
who cares at the point
Looking forewars to Andor S2
Other than that the Franchise is done anyway
Fucking Andor of all things is carrying this franchise.....who woulda thought
Bad Batch was carrying it for awhile too. Omega is a great character & it did a lot to wrap up the story of the clones after the clone wars.
I don't blame the girls for their performances here. Bad writing and bad direction are near impossible to overcome.
"I just want a strong satisfying story devoid of politics"*cuts to a clip of Andor* like dude do you know what you're even talking about? lmao
He's referring to real life politics. Not in story politics.
@@heroncolby2842 andor quite literally integrates real life politics into the story my guy😭 like watch interviews with Tony Gilroy, he quite literally integrates his own personal politics into Andor
@@heroncolby2842 WHOOSH
Nice try strawmanning. There’s literally been politics IN every Star Wars, to one extent or another. The difference is when the product presented IS the politics. Featuring it somewhere in the narrative is indeed quite separate from BEING the entirety of that narrative, through and through. Simple.
@@georgecisneros5281Andor is literally about capitalism dawg
How does this shit cost Disney $180 million? It doesn't look like it cost that much AT ALL.
I actually love the idea of a force using organization that has figured out how to combine group powers and even give force sensitivity to people. Nearly everything else is trash unfortunately.
Don’t even hate watch it. Don’t give Disney views for garbage shows
By everything you say in this video about this show and The Last Jedi, I can feel that there is something you dislike and aren't able to accept : change and new visions. You seem to give an extreme amount of importance to the codes of an universe or a franchise, saying that changing them creates incoherences or could ruin the universe itself. This is a sad and very restrictive way of experiencing any type of cultural and entertaining content. The fact that different artists can come into a franchise and give a complete new way of interpretation, a new vision and codes is what makes a good and solid franchise and often give some of the best content and I have plenty of examples. Mad Max : Fury Road, Blade Runner 2049, Dune (adapted from a book), even in the Star Wars franchise, the Andor series was a new way for the franchise, and how god it was nothing like we had ever seen before (except maybe for Rogue One, but that's pretty much the same people behind both projects). I have discovered your channel with your GOT content and I am sure you loved Andor, because of its seriousness, the importance given to the characters, and all the other things that made the first season of GOT so amazing. My point is, what you dislike about the Acolyte doesn't come from it, it actually comes from you and your lack of openness and your fundamental vision about breaking the codes of a universe, about how it is a bad thing. And you are not the only one, especially in the Star Wars community. Just see how the prequels were hated when they were released, same thing for the sequels. The Last Jedi, for example, is REALLY, a great movie in many ways : cinematography, directing, acting, visual effects, photography, and many others. When I ask people why they disliked it, they all say the same thing : the movie was breaking and ruining everything we know about the universe, whether it be with Luke Skywalker, the Sith, the Jedi, the Force, the technologies, and more...
I see that as a problem and a clear lack of curiosity, or even love from Star Wars fans : how can you pretend really love something and be angry when new people arrive and bring new visions, new things, new ways that allow you to re-discover the universe to pretend to like so much. This behavior made me think for many years and I now have an idea, at least in the case of the Star Wars franchise : of course some fans are just some conservatives hating on everything new and on anything they think is "woke" but those people are not to be taken seriously if I want to give an objective point. Anyway, I have come to the conclusion that some fans dont really like Star Wars anymore, but only the idea of Star Wars, they like their own vision, their own memories and understanding of Star Wars. And the reason is think this behavior is mainly seen in the Star Wars community is simple and is from the very own words of George Lucas himself : Star Wars is for kids. This franchise is something we have been meant to experience as kids. Now there are two ways of interpretation that can be made :
1. Many fans are, in their own life in general, too much attached or nostalgic about their own childhood, and hate that we touch or demystify it, like it had be done in the prequels and lately in the sequels. This first hypothesis is related to the problem of open-mindedness among the Star Wars community, that you are perfectly personifying in your video.
2. Fans giving review on how breaking the Star Wars code and bringing new things to the lore that could create incoherences (or not) have simply lost the childish soul that made them love Star Wars in the first place. Do you think you were analyzing everything when you were discovering the prequels or the OT ? Did you give this much importance to the coherence of the lore ? Were you being annoyed by new things ? No, you wanted to discover more, you were fascinated by this universe, by the Force, by the magic. This second hypothesis is simply a sad observation that people grow up, even Star Wars fans, and that many of them cannot see the magic anymore.
I choose to not talk deeply about nostalgia and for example the argument you could bring such as " How is that I rewatch the prequels and the OT as an adult and like them and I watch the sequels and the Acolyte and hate it" because it already a long enough comment. To be honest, I dislike the Acolyte. There are many bad things about it, the writing, the acting, the visuals, the visual effects (although many of u should keep in mind that, even if it is a Disney production, it is still a series and not a movie, so the conditions of work are different), but the new elements it brings to the universe and the Star Wars shouldn't be taken as a lack of quality in itself.
I agree with everyone else you say in the video, especially the bad acting and the (very) bad writing. About the end, I think you dont take the time to think about the fact we havent seen the end of the series yet. Yes, it could be stupid writing that the fire spreads and kills everyone, but we havent seen the Jedi POV yet. Maybe there is something that we havent seen about all of this. If you really want this series to improve and not only want to spread your hate about it for no reason or just to entertain the hating masses, you could try to imagine things that could be done for it to be decent.
I agree with you most of the time, but one thing in Disney's or, more accurately, Rian Johnson's defense:
Luke being a hermit on some backwater planet was actually George Lucas' idea. Lucas intended for Luke to be in a self-imposed exile in some old cave for so long that he lost his eyesight. The reason for this exile was the betrayal of one of his students. Likely the "Jedi Killer", a Darth Vader fanboy and son of Leia who was literally seduced by Darth Talon. And about your concern with de-mystifying the Force: George planned to have a part of the Sequels happening in a microbiotic world involving Midi-Chlorians and creatures called "The Whills".
Yo, I thought he said "forced impregnation" instead of "force impregnation" and I was so confused.
This makes jar jar look like a king 🤴
jar jar was ALWAYS a king🤴
When Supercut talks about sonething with as much disappointment as GOT Season 8, you know its shite.
The thing with the medichlorians is that people misunderstand what they are. Many people think they ARE the force, but they're not. They are more comparable with a sensory organ, like eyes which allow you to perceive and even manipulate light. Likewise, high enough concentrations of these midichlorian cells allow individuals to perceive the force and manipulate it. Everyone is a part of the force, in the same way a sightless fish is effected by light and changes colour to minimize its visibility, but cannot SEE it themselves.
I honestly kind of disagree with your statements about how the thread breaks cannon. The force is a mystical, well, FORCE that connects everyone and everything. Yoda himself said as much. I don’t think it’s unrealistic for other theological interpretations to exist, that also claim that their own interpretation is the correct one. Like, the dathomir witches can use the force in a different way from the Jedi, I’m sure if we had a show about them they’d say “this is the (insert another name for the force), it lets us reanimate the dead because it connects all things, living or dead, together” and what they say about the thread isn’t even that different from interpretations of yoda.
As first the Jedi being evil, it has always been hinted at in shows and movies that the Jedi, after they thought they beat the with, grew complacent and lost their way in a way. Like they keep the general tenets of the Jedi order but they were shown to be complacent and corrupt. Hell during the clone wars, the Jedi were GENERALS! In a war about a presumed political succession. They were no longer 3rd party peace keepers, they were a de facto arm of the republic. They let slavery exist because the republic didn’t have authority over the Hutt space but if they were 3rd party good people that wouldn’t have stopped them.
The force babies ones I have no explanation for, but, again, in a GALAXY with the force, where magic can be used to reanimate dead bodies, it’s not unreasonable to think another cult exists that can do something similar with the force
Your assumption is wrong I think, I thought it was clearly obvious that the Jedi killed those witches, not the debris.
Why did she do that?
The point still stands. He says that if that IS what happened, then it's still a betrayal to Star Wars canon, since it villanizes the Jedi
@@julianortiz5712 We don’t actually know what happened so I disagree. If they attacked first without provocation then I agree. If they came to investigate and the witches attacked them then it’s fine.
@@julianortiz5712 The Jedi have always been evil. Anakin knew this. Are you new to Star Wars?
@@birons3708 Palpatine : Is not jedi way !!
Obi-wan : DO IT !
Anakin : Ok BrO !
Dooku : ..🤔 Dude wtf ?
And no
Windu VS Sidious (Master Sith Control THE Senat , Séparatiste...)
And
Jedi VS twenty fuking "thread" user exiled lesbians living as hermits who don't give a damn fuking shit
is not same 😘
I’m sorry Acoylte is the same calibre as House of the Dragon? I’d say it’s more Game of Thrones Season 8.
House of the Dragon is good tho and miles above this crap
It's somehow even worse than GoT S8.
Let's just hope season 2 of House of Dragons is a lot better than Acolyte.
@@penumbrum3135 I find it worse than RWBY Volumes 5-8
You know what's sad? We've never had this much star wars content being made like we do now. And it's mostly trash, younger me would have adored to have so much stuff if it was actually good.
Some Hollywood writers seems to mistake a character being engaging/important to mean => have as much or more power/influence over the universe as previous famous character and just telling the audience that will make the audience cheer for them. Take miss marvel - who I both like as a character and especially the actress - having her save the universe at the end of her show does nothing for making me care about the struggle, it would have been much more powerful if she saved just one member of her family, or even a random person. A kidnapping story where someone the audience actually believes are in a real risk with no-level thugs is much more engaging than another "oh no the world is going to end". It would work for captain marvel as well, a situation she can't punch her way out of? Just some random kid being kidnapped, the hero being at fault (for not caring earlier) and having someone without power just messing with them...
"Using the force to impregnate women"
I beg your sweetest pardon??!
Why is being gay political? Huh?
They should get the voice actor for darth maul and starkiller to have his say on anything star wars related. He respects the lore, Weinstein's assistant does not
"I don't think there's some kind of large woke conspiracy or whatever..."
"I also find it crazy that the critics think The Acolyte is of the same quality of House of the Dragon, like what the hell is going on?"
It really is a good show. It's not the producers fault you're too dumb to understand it.
That's now how Rotten Tomatoes works so it's not exactly saying that.
It RT is just "mostly positive" (tomato) or "mostly negative" (rotten) and that's it.
every woke show on rotten tomatoes has customers giving it ~20% and then critics give it 90+
what a weird coincidence that keeps happening
@@darthbiscuit I mean to be fair everything so called "woke" gets review bombed by fans too even when it doens't deserve it.
Acolyte deserves it though.
@@misterhoobomaster you could make the same argument for it getting positive review bombs because its woke and helps corporate profits.
far more likely these stories get "review bombed" for being terribly written. Just as how its suppose to be done
“I want a story devoid of politics”
-Shows Andor
💀
Strawman elsewhere, my friend.
Yeah also i dont understand how a gay relationship is somehow political? I get him wanting more subtle storytelling and wanting better writing, that spreading fire was devoid of any natural physics. But star wars has always been political in its messaging
@@johnaverill6308 I think the point is that bending the star wars canon to make a virgin force birth (which negates the impact of Anakin's birth) just so the character can have lesbian moms comes across as extremely politically motivated and corny, not that having lesbian moms itself is bad.
Let's also not act like Disney actually cares about representing people - they only ever include lesbians as their "representation" since they're more digestible to the masses - Disney's too afraid that any other type of representation (like finn and poe ending up together) would scare off viewers. It really all comes across as very insincere & pandering, and I think they need to either include genuine, respectful & realistic/subtle representation or just stop because it's extremely cringey what they're doing atm.
I want show with interesting politics, not propaganda of the current thing.
@@johnaverill6308 It more like they try to make a message that said gay couple can produce kid which is just biologically impossible they could just have them adopt a kid. Wait a minute so people could just have kid with the use of the force so force sperm is a thing.
The writing is just awful that pretty it bringing up politic is just gonna give people reason to talk about this trash show.
I mean, we saw the nightsisters use the force in an even more strange way. I don't get the backlash to the thread idea. Merin straight up teleports in the Jedi games. Also we see the wookie jedi attack that guy who drank the poison in the trailer. I'm willing to bet not all four jedi killed the coven. And the jedi were not going to force the children to leave, they were giving them the opportunity to choose for themselves. That's what they have always done, take young children to train them. Mae even asks that jedi to confess his crimes before the council, meaning they are unaware of whatever truly happened there.
There is no way you just said that you want a story devoid of politics and played a clip from ANDOR.
Anakin is still massively important. He was created by THE FORCE ITSELF, not people using it. Mae and Osha are just force sensitive, they are nowhere near Anakins level. Mae has been getting dog walked by the jedi so far, she is NOT on Anakins level at all. The coven uses the force in a different way from the Jedi, as a straight white male I didn't feel like this was trying to make any social commentary outside of the idea of women in the past being accused of being witches and ostracized and killed for it.
We also see in the trailer explosions going off in the castle. I dont think we are being shown the full picture. Mae's fire didn't burn down the castle, something else did. Thats what the mystery is.
I don't think they are trying to villainize the Jedi, just Indara and her padawan. The other two there didnt know what they did or couldn't stop it. That's why that dude chose to drink the poison, he felt so guilty for what he did he killed himself. He said they thought they were doing the right thing. Whatever they did they thought it was good, they weren't trying to be evil or morally gray, they thought it was right
We haven't seen the whole show, its literally just the first three episodes. It could genuinely be a bad show on the level of Kenobi or god forbid even the Rise of Skywalker, but ill keep holding out hope until its over.
5:19 “we’ll just tell your mother we ate it”
The fact that the Jedi would be manipulating children to make them join is actually a very interesting and new perspective on how the Jedi could be seen, or even more, on how they are truly behaving. If you understand the prequels correctly, you can easily see a critic and demystification of the Jedi order and its ideology, Knowing the strong influence of The Phantom Menace on this show, the ambiguous way they portray the Jedi order is not a surprise if you possesses even a minimal understanding of the Star Wars franchise.
No matter what Disney will do, i will always deny the existence of every installment past episode 6, except maybe Mandalorian and Rogue One.
They are just nightmares
Surely Rouge one was okay
@@cluddlesclaimscraniums6841 sorry. Did i say everything in epv6. I meant everything that takes place AFTER Ep.6. And since thr events of Rogue One happen before ep 4, means its cannon to me
There is actually a hint that something is going on at the compound. Early on in the episode the Zabrak mother is looking around suspiciously in the reactor room, as if she is sensing something wrong. Also, Tommen the Padawan committed suicide for something he did there. So, yes, you're not actually supposed to believe that a kid made the whole place blow up.
Why do you even care about Star Wars anymore? It's time to put away childish things.
@@chainsawcharlie429 To be honest, mostly for the design these days.
The writer, whenever her name is, did say the show was kill bill meets frozen. So im guessing what happened was the Jedi did kill them and maybe have her new memories.
But why? Why dedicate a whole episode out of 8 to a gotcha? Why write the force so haphazardly. If they focused on this interpretation was specific to their cult then sure but why then also give force conception as a power to them, a power only hinted at being achieved by Sidious and plageous or by the very force when creating anakin? It took those powerful dark side users who were capable of wiping out Jedi masters and brought about order 66 but these witches are getting wiped out by Jedi knights or a fire and are struggling with a force push. It’s just so sloppy and inconsiderate of the larger narrative
@@joeandrew8752 Yes, they don't follow the "Chekhov's Gun" narrative principle, that says that an element introduced into a story should have some significance later on.
While this isn't as important to adhere by in a novel, it should be in a short TV-series or movie. But to me it just seems like a lesbian woman's fantasy to be able to reproduce without having to involve men.
I can’t even look at Leslye. Looks like a failed experiment.
I can only agree with your critique of the arson. That was unrealistically lethal and frustrating. One oil canister cannot melt a mountain base. I hope there's some sabotage reveal later that justifies this. The kid acting was rough as well but I found Osha's scene with Sol after the fire to be very well acted. For everything else, Supercuts, you're blowing it out of proportion.
'The Thread' is just the Witches' interpretation of the Force. I don't think they got anywhere near redefining canon with that. It's just a cultural difference.
The immaculate conception of the twins does not make Anakin any less of the Chosen One than Rey giving Palps the final blow. These Witches are powerful Dark side users, but if Anakin's mother was impregnated by the Force itself, the twins cannot be as powerful as him; and I don't think the show is presenting them that way. Also, who gives a shit about gay witches? Let the witches be gay. What is this, the second gay couple we've seen in Star Wars? Wow, such politics.
The Jedi being grey is also understandable. These Witches are of the dark side so anyone training children in the dark side would be something the Jedi want to control. And even then, we see the shades of grey with Sol and Indara during their meeting with the Witches; similar to the ways a Jedi like Mace Windu differs from Qui Gon. The Jedi might be the good guys compared to the dark side but they are still the police force of the Republic. It's been implied before that the Jedi have been losing their way since becoming as politically powerful as they are. The Acolyte isn't reinventing the wheel by having them throw their weight around.
Lastly, the Witches are established Dark Side users inside and outside of canon; with prominent roles in the Clone Wars. Their magic might seem weird but it's just another facet of the Force. I love seeing more of these different aspects of the Force. Critiquing them for not falling into your ideas of the Force reduces the mystery of the Force more than anything else. As soon as you say, "That's not how the force works," you're hurting your enjoyment of Star Wars in general.
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How exactly does the thread change the force, Yoda says in Empire that the Force binds everything together, much like a thread does, not to mention that we've already seen different takes and uses of the Force like with the Nightsisters and the Lasats
It feels like they are going "they call it the force because they are stupid, we call it THE THREAD because we are smart". Not literally, but how it feels.
@@starburst98 It's how that specific in universe group views it.
Well it has a lot of experience overseeing grapes so at least there's continuity in that..
And how does it kill star wars? Explain please
Jedi being manipulative and oppressive is literally how we got count dooku. I think this is okay. The covenant calling the force "the thread" appears to be specific to this cult... I do see how it is shocking though. The Jedi have always been the antagonists. Nobody ever really liked them, as they were using their power to benefit what they thought to be best. Luke's new jedi tried to avoid this, and was accompanied by political decisions.
I for one am pro Jedi are villains. The idea that jedi are inherently good has always been bullsh!t .
The force impregnation is a wild step and invalidates the chosen one.
And here I thought they were about to have a comeback, especially with the Sith character I speculated to be Darth Tenebrus.
Such a big shame
they could still go for some connection to Darth Plagueis.
In the expanded universe Darth Plagueis experiments both with creating a force dyad and creating life through the force.
It could be that they go for a timeline where Darth Plagueis is inspired to try those things after finding out about the events we see in the show.
Though it is a bit early for Darth Plagueis himself if they keep the ages the same as in the extended universe books as Plagueis would only be 15 at this point,
Eh, I’ll actually say the Jedi being somewhat authoritarian does make sense. By this point in the timeline, the order was already losing their ways. It’s a good narrative build to lead to them eventually leading clone armies. Something the order should’ve never even considered
I’m fine with there being another interpretation of the Force by a new culture in the Galaxy. But what I did like about episode 3, is that there is definitely more to this story than what was shown.
3:22 I’m not gonna defend the show but I’m pretty sure this was shown in the same way in older Star Wars media
God damnit! I just want a cool Jedi buddy cop series where a master and a padawan travel from place to place to solve a crime with increasing complexity, where the padawan is thrust into morally difficult situations, and where the master uses those as opportunities to explain how the jedi should act. It's not that hard! Chat GPT could do a better job than... whatever The Acolyte is.
It was probably written by an AI. But on your other statement... I think a story about Jedi being cops in a space story would be the greatest show we've had in years. (Maybe it could be a story about Count Dooku and Qui Gon and over time they realize that the Jedi are corrupt)
@@ShadowWolf-nk1gz Yeah, a younger Dooku and a very young Qui-Gon could be fun. After following clues, and doing side-missions, all over the galaxy, they realize a group of corrupt Jedi are behind the crime, and they have to gather proof and expose them.
The episodes could be a mix between stand-alone stories where they have to help someone, and part of the crime plot.
@@ShadowWolf-nk1gz I actually asked Chat GPT to write an intro to the story for fun :P
The stars glittered coldly in the vast expanse of space, their light casting long, silent shadows across the hull of the Republic cruiser Valor. Onboard, the air was thick with an unspoken tension, a palpable anxiety that seemed to seep into every corner of the ship. It was aboard this vessel, now adrift between systems, that a crime had been committed-a crime so grave that it threatened to unravel the fragile threads of trust that held the Galactic Republic together.
Qui-Gon Jinn stood on the bridge, shifting uneasily, the weight of the mission pressing heavily upon his shoulders. His master, Jedi Master Dooku, stood beside him, a pillar of calm in the midst of chaos. Qui-Gon glanced at Dooku, envying his master’s serene composure. How did he manage to remain so confident, so unshakable, when Qui-Gon felt like a storm raged within him?
"Master, what if I can't do this?" Qui-Gon's voice was barely above a whisper, his doubt manifesting in the quiver of his words. He feared that his lack of confidence might betray his inadequacy, that his path to becoming a Jedi Knight was fraught with insurmountable obstacles.
Dooku turned to him, his expression softening with a rare warmth. "Qui-Gon, fear is a natural response to the unknown. It is not the absence of fear that defines a Jedi, but the courage to face it. You have the potential to become a great Jedi Knight, but you must trust in yourself as I trust in you."
Qui-Gon met his master's gaze, finding a measure of comfort in Dooku's unwavering confidence. He nodded, swallowing his doubt as best he could. Together, they would uncover the truth behind the crime that haunted the Valor, and in doing so, Qui-Gon hoped to find his own path forward.
The bridge door slid open with a soft hiss, admitting Captain Arwen Thrain, the commanding officer of the Valor. Her face was etched with worry, her stride purposeful despite the turmoil. "Masters Jedi," she greeted, her voice tight with tension. "We have gathered the crew in the main hangar for questioning, as you requested."
Dooku inclined his head in acknowledgment. "Thank you, Captain. We will proceed at once."
As they made their way to the hangar, Qui-Gon felt the silence between them weigh heavily. He struggled to quiet his racing mind, to focus on the task at hand. He knew that this assignment was a test, not just of his skills, but of his resolve.
I can't believe how Disney can make both the best and worst Star Wars content. Forget about Episodes 7-8-9 for a second, those are super divisive with just as many fans as haters...
On one hand, you have amazing stuff like the final arc of the last Clone Wars season, the first 2 seasons of The Mandalorian, Rogue One... and even Tales of the Jedi and the latest seasons of Rebels. The Bad Batch had its ups and downs, but that's normal for an animated show that needs some filler and I mostly enjoyed the series. And seriously, Andor is FANTASTIC! It’s so well written and detailed it could almost stand alone outside of Star Wars. No Force, no Jedi... but still peak Star Wars! These shows really get the characters and the story, and fill in gaps without destroying established concepts.
Some other projects are alright and have their fans but at least don’t mess up the canon. Ahsoka was fine and opens up a lot of possibilities for the future of Star Wars. Solo was fine too, not a must-watch, but a decent time that introduces new characters and value legacy ones.
But then, there are the total flops. The Mandalorian's Lizzo/Jack Black episode was a complete fail and left a bad taste in my mouth. The Book of Boba Fett had moments but was mostly meh. Kenobi was pretty weak and felt like it was written by someone who never watched Star Wars. The middle arc of the last Clone Wars season was a waste of time, and The Acolyte is looking like a huge mistake, messing up the core of what Star Wars is about. These projects show a huge inconsistency in quality and often miss the mark, leaving fans frustrated.
Disney needs better creative oversight by people who truly understand and care about Star Wars. Dave Filoni and/or George Lucas should have a bigger role in overseeing and approving any new projects. Tony Gilroy nailed it with Andor and should be offered to pilot more projects that sit aside from the Force and Jedi, as he proved he can comfortably handle it. Disney should also listen more to the Star Wars community. Engaging with fans and understanding their views can help create content that respects the legacy and looks forward. I wish they would focus on meaningful storytelling that sticks to the Star Wars spirit.
Disney, get it together. Let people who truly know and love Star Wars handle the storytelling. You're slowly ruining Star Wars and Marvel, let go of your obsession for gimmicks and political agendas and let true passionate creators who understand the lore take control and bring back the passion and authenticity that made these franchises what they once were.
Okay but you gotta admit Kenobi brought us one of the best moments in Star Wars ever, the Vader fight when his mask broke
@@davids.3584worse version of the Rebels scene imo, and the moment got killed for me when Obi just left Vader without finishing him off or anything, causing millions more to die by his hand.
Bro really called final arc of The Clone Wars amazing...
@russianoverkill3715 you really trying to say the order 66 arc wasn't great? The siege of Mandalore, Ahsoka vs Maul, Ahsoka and Rex vs the entire fleet? If you can't appreciate that I don't know what will. I'm not talking about the Martez sisters bullshit, don't get confused.
@Sondrebol spot on. Rebels did it much better and there wasn't no cheesy dialogue. It was fine in Kenobi, no more no less. Didn't feel fresh and original.
It's kinda like getting stabbed in the gut and surviving... it's OK if it happens once or twice but Disney is overusing it so much for drama now that it's treated like a broken hand and the character is back and going after a quick fix. Come on...
I was fine with the thread, I imagine there would be different takes on the force.
I need to defend aspects of the show. I hate the show and could complain about it for hours, but it is largely respectful toward Star Wars lore and is consistent with things established previously. The Thread thing is just another interpretation/expression of the Force. Not the biggest fan of witch magic, but that has been in the series for a long time. And when the Jedi have been a creepy cult that recruits children before they can make life decisions and then brainwashed them into unfeeling monks. And when the Jedi encountered someone from a virgin birth, they showed their willingness to heartlessly separate that child from his family so that he could be groomed for a destiny in the galaxy’s better interest.
So calling the Force the thread isn't lore breaking. Night Sister's call it magic, then there's also Ashla and Unity. Why even mention it?
Jedi being shifty is something that's been given to us countless times. Throughout Legends and Canon. Yes some are completely saintly some aren't.
Anakin is different than Osha and Mae. Osha and Mae are at the moment representing both sides of the Force. While Anakin is just the Force. Plus he was conceived by the Force, not by people abusing or using it, like many believe.
I'm not gonna talk about politics. Star Wars has and will always be political, and it's extremely hand fisted. Complaining about it seems redundant.
When it comes to the compound being set on fire I really doubt it happened, the way we see it. We only see from Osha's perspective. I'm expecting the horn lady caused a Boston Massacre like moment. Making Master Tomund do something (he extremely regrets) that leads the coven being destroyed. Like obviously there's more to it than we see.
This episode wasn't really good but it's definitely not the worst thing or most lore breaking thing ever created in Star Wars.
Thank you for this comment! I could not have said it better myself!
Exactly. I expected better from this guy but I guess I was wrong, he’s just spouting the same echo chamber nonsense that everyone who didn’t even watch it is saying
Anakin is a reaction to plagieus trying to make a force user. So this does kinda break canon. Making an ability that's insanely rare and a birth also rare is suddenly not. The thread thing is eh idc
This person explained everything perfectly. From what I had heard before the episode dropped it was gonna ruin all the lore and that they were turning the force feminine and other ridiculous stuff. None of that is the case. Granted, it wasn’t close to the best 40 min of Star Wars I’ve watched but it wasn’t the lore breaking abomination everyone was making it out to be.
Amazing how hard monkeys like you are overdosing on copium to justify all the lore breaking.
WTF is that scene with the power of one, power two🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lmao
I rewatched Andor probably 3 times because I was so surprised by how good it was. I don't think I'll ever watch Acolyte lol. 😅
Maybe we should have less dramatic and broader spectrum of Star Wars rankings. Because having half of series and movies ranked "It destroys Star Wars" kinda undermines the meaning of it
There's lots of different interpretations of the force in Star Wars, the Nightsisters for example. The coven said they were outcasts, maybe they were outcasted from them? Either way, this isn't rewriting canon, just introducing a different perspective on how an isolated community might interpret the power that infests the galaxy.
The jedi were being manipulative, and so was the coven. The coven forces these children to be born, and then doesn't let them have any agency over their own life. At least the Jedi gave Osha the choice to stay or leave, only the leader of the coven let her make her choice, but still said that it was ultimately up to the whole coven to decide.
Also, the jedi were always taking children at a young age, have you completely forgotten the prequels? Anakin was *old* for a new padawan. They would typically give the parents the choice since the children were too young to decide.
Gay impregnations are a step too far? Anakin is literally an immaculate conception caused by either Palpatine or the force. It's really not a stretch to say that it has happened before. Hell, Palps might've even discovered how the twins were born and that's what inspired him.
The child actors were fine, it was the direction and arguably the dialogue that wasn't.
Usually your takes are pretty level headed and reasonable, but this just seems like major mental acrobatics.
Got to disagree with Palpatine creating Anakin he was made by the force in response to plagueis messing with the dead that whole scene in dark dimension was just of the dark side.
I was also caught off-guard by the sheer anger directed towards this. I really don't understand how having a random cult understand the force differently from the jedi breaks canon. I get the anger about the force impregnation, but even that doesn't seem all that lore breaking.
And i mean, we've all seen Mace Windu, right? Since when have the jedi actually been good people, half of them were dicks in the prequals.
@@Sondrebol Literally, half of the prequels were "hey maybe the Jedi's way isn't so great, I mean, they did just create the worst murderer the galaxy has ever known"
Bro it’s ass like much of the rest of Disney Star wars. Dont waste your time trying to defend the new garbage. Just go back and watch the clone wars series. Its a masterpiece compared to this filth.
as somebody who lived through the prequels, this idea that "they should bring back george lucas" is so ridiculous to me. i guess time heals all wounds but you gotta remember that midichlorians and the trade dispute and quigon/watto's "bet" and leaving shmi on tattooine and anakin getting "tricked" into being darth vader and casting jake lloyd... all that stuff was incomprehensibly bad and shocked fans when it came out. george is the cause of, not the solution to, star wars' many problems. the unpopular truth is that the brilliance of the OT was like 90% on other artists besides george... marsha lucas, ben burtt, irvin kirschner, gary kurtz, harrison ford... ALL those people made star wars what it is. george is just the guy who wrote the "story," by copying the homework of campbell.
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Look at the buzzfeed article comment section defending amandala steinerberg and her rap song. It is the small subset of people disney is pandering too.
The power of 1, the power of 2, the power of 180 million dollars.
This episode was giving me hopes about the rest of the show
But at least I know one thing. Ice cream does exist in the Star Wars universe in a way
First I want to say that i find this show so underwhelming even after not having too big of hopes for this. I might sound like disney shill defending and loving everything they do but its not the case. Constructive critisim is good for shows and i want people to give them. But there is bunch of bs people either misunderstand or believe without all of the contex. "Thread" is nothing new its just literally force. These Witches see and use force differently from the Jedi just like Chiss in books or even Nightsisters. And i dont want to jump into conclusion with what killed the witches or even lesbian birth thing. Im not fan of birth thing but they left is vague and i hope we will get more clear answers about it later. Anyway there is clearly something we are not told yet what will be shown later possibly from either Maes or Jedis point of view.
It’s so sad that something that I loved when I was a child and a young man has been destroyed.
I'll never watch the show, but its hilarious, all those people wielding an invisible thread remind me of the RLM video of David Carradine waving around the incredible, amazing piece of hose.
I had my issues with the episode, but it doesn't 'break canon', that's just rage bait.
Episode was bad, but critiquing it for having different cultural interpretations of the force or having grey Jedi is ridiculous, these are the only things about the show that is actually interesting, the actual characters, sets and dialogue all suck. The themes could actually be interesting the production and execution sucks
There’s a reason ‘Traitor’ is widely regarded as the best EU novel, and it’s because it tells a unique philosophical story, as opposed to the same black/white story we’ve seen dozens of times in the EU
Sure, but you can have dathamere witches that are literal galaxies away have the same lore and meaning, but yet lesbo bitches wrote by a lesbo, pushing lesbo power agenda all in the same galaxy as luke and the other characters, has a different meaning.
Having a different interpretation of the force is okay, but this episode is clearly a political agenda pushing episode to try and rewrite star wars lore to the likings of the new writers (which suck) but also to push a woman power agenda. I dont fkin want to see this type of Narative pushing storytelling is a fkin star wars show. Go write another show about women with powers or some shit. But they womt, cuz they no that shit wont sell. Thats why these fuckers rat thier way into pre existing IPs to try and put thoer own shitty stain on the IP😊
Yeah I don’t mind that the witches have their own interpretation of the force. The witch mother states that it is the same as the force but their view it differently
Yes I agree, they should owe an apology to George Lucas, I miss these good old days of both eras of Star Wars with the original trilogy (4-6) and the prequels (1-3), and also after watching Season 3 of The Mandolorian last year, I’m no longer hopeful nor have any faith for the future of Star Wars
I'm at a point that I'm waiting for a complete retcon of the series.
Its so frustrating that we have disney star wars masterpieces like Andor, Bad Batch, Clone Wars Season 7 and Rogue One, but then they also produce this kind of horseshit that makes me never watch this franchise anymore
Man people have slept on Andor 😢
@@neoluthuli3254 I have a friend who still hasnt seen it and I have been begging him to watch it
@petrikallio2485 That's a bummer because he is missing out
That show is great top tier Star Wars
Did y’all see a different episode? Like I could understand some people having theories and speculating but to say the canon has been changed is a REACH. Like there is nothing in this episode that definitively changes the force, how it works, Anakins birth or anything else 🤷♂️
Oh, you know it's bad when Supercuts makes a video on it.
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_It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and _*_PENETRATES_*_ us. It binds the galaxy together._
Coming soon "How episode 4 destroyed star wars." 😂 i feel like ive seen this for all 3 episodes.
They use this with every time a new show or movie comes out. 😂😂😂
Not wrong though Starwars is falling further into the backseat
His only other video on the show was “The acolyte needs to improve” and he gave a balanced amount of criticism and praise for a flawed show. But sure, go off that it’s just a “we hate x” agenda and Disney couldn’t possibly have fumbled the bag
@@luismiguelrodriguesdecarvalho agreed im not blaming him specifically for saying it. Im simply stating that everytime a new show or movie comes out someone is stating the franchise is ruined. Alot of theses shows had to go through rewrites and got put on hold due to strikes. I dont think its accurate to say a franchise is dead because of a couple of shows that tried to do something new.
@@ramsolo8819 It's kinda shocking he made such a decent video initially then makes this like.... Come on
Hello Supercuts, I'm a long-time admirer of your channel, especially enjoying your GoT videos and Marvel reviews.
Nevertheless, I find myself at odds with some aspects of your recent video:
- Numerous comments have already pointed out that the critique of the thread seems superficial and lacks solid reasoning for its deviation from the canon. The Thread represents an alternate interpretation of the Force, akin to the Night Sisters in Star Wars. It introduces complexity and multiple dimensions to the traditional understanding of the Force, presenting an innovative view that it's not solely wielded by the Jedi.
- Regarding the pregnancy storyline, I feel it diminishes Anakin's significance by suggesting that anyone with the Force might create a 'Force baby.' However, I'll withhold further judgment until more is revealed, considering the recurring theme in Star Wars narratives where Palpatine allegedly uses the Force to impregnate Shmi. While I'm not particularly keen on this concept, if it's been addressed and explored previously, I see no reason it shouldn't be examined further later this season.
- The introduction of a moral gray area within the Star Wars universe is intriguing and fresh. The notion that the Jedi succumbed to Sidious's machinations due to their overwhelming arrogance and their desire to control the Force resonates with me. A compelling aspect of The Last Jedi was the portrayal of the Force as encompassing both light and dark, essential to one another. This is why characters like Balon in Ahsoka are so captivating (with stellar acting), and why The Rise of Skywalker disappointed by reverting to a simple good vs. evil narrative when they could have explored much more nuanced themes.
- Viewing Mae's destruction of the entire coven at face value misses the nuances hinted at in the story. It's subtly suggested that other forces are at play, particularly the girls' other mother, who is seen observing the generator throughout the episode. Indeed, rock doesn't burn, but this is a narrative choice that doesn't lessen the impact. In a universe where telekinesis and sound exist in space, such critiques must be consistently applied if you are bringing them up in your critique.
- Lastly, having grown up with Star Wars, I acknowledge The Acolyte's shortcomings but still find the storyline engaging and innovative compared to other recent entries like The Book of Boba, Mando's third season, and Ahsoka. It feels fresh in the Star Wars universe. However, production-wise, many mid-shots and artificial-looking stages do detract from its quality, unlike Andor, which benefits from extensive on-location shooting. I won't delve into the "woke" controversy as any step towards representation in film is progress, and the adult actors outshine those in series like Ahsoka and Boba. Andor offered a grounded perspective on Star Wars, steering clear of the cringy dialogue prevalent in the latest Disney Star Wars releases, and I find this show does similarly.
These are just my thoughts, take them or leave them. As a fan of your channel, I'd appreciate a bit more depth in your criticisms of the Acolyte rather than hasty conclusions. The show isn't flawless, but it offers something distinct from the recent Disney offerings. Also defo not on par with HOTD, that show is too good. Would also love to hear your take on The Boys too! Anyways, big supercuts fan here, and this was a refreshing break from my master's thesis. Cheers!
After season 2 of Andor, I’m done with Star Wars.
they can clone for children with magic, sorry that's just not much of a leap.
Look at the shit the clone wars magic ppl get up to.
They literally turned savas into a beast in literally 1 minute.
They poisoned count dooku from across the galaxy.
I'm just gonna say it: Disney's Star Wars is non-canon, none of it, any of it, is canon. Except Andor & the animated serieses, those are certainly canon, everything else is not canon & we will never accept it as canon.
I don't think this show is as bad as the fanbase is making it up to be, there´s really nothing canon breaking here. Bear with me.
1. The Jedi were always corruptible as seen and written in the prequels. They abide by rigid rules which sometimes they decide to break based on convenience, our beloved Mace Windu is an example of this and the Jedi order pre-empire were such fools to take a political stance and become generals in a war shrouded in fallacy, this is one of the key elements of Anakin's full transformation into Darth Vader. The fact that the Jedi are corruptible doesn´t mean that the Jedi way is a bad form of teaching per se but rather the individual person has to show perseverance and abide by good values to become a true Jedi, like Luke did when he forgave and saved Anakin, like Obi-Wan did when he watched over Luke and what Qui-Gon Jinn did when he "adopted" Anakin. Being an official Jedi doesn´t give you an automatic pass of being a "good" and "true" Jedi cleansed of all evil doings.
2. The "thread" is a partial synonym of the "force", I say partial because it feels like a limited explanation of the force which is that everyone is a part of this thread and when the thread is pulled there will be consequences, if you pull the thread harshly enough there will be grave consequences. The force doesn't belong to a specific group it is everywhere and binds the universe together. This is not really confusing, it's essentially being treated the same as the concept of "God" or "Higher Power" in our world and where different religious and spiritual groups have their different versions of the abstract concept of consciousness, God, metaphysics, higher power in which they all totally debate about which is the truth. They´re only addressing that there is a cult of force sensitives which have their own philosophy of the force and of course with a different philosophy come different powers and insights whether good or bad. Exactly the same example can be found with Qui-Gon Jinn and the Journal of Whills where he found a way to return as a force ghost, this is not a Jedi power but rather a power drawn from the Whills .The "thread" is not the truest conceptual version of the force and not even the Jedi version is the truest version of the force because it is all up to interpretation, it´s all relative and mysterious. The Nightsisters and the mysterious Whills were already established or at least hinted at to be a part of the universe decades ago so this group of witches is nothing "edgy".
3. The twins being born from the force has of course already been established with Anakin, I can understand why people feel this minimizes the impact of Anakin being the chosen one but I´d argue that we simply don´t know yet and we need to watch more to connect the dots. We know that it is hinted that Darth Plaguies manipulated midi-chlorians to create life, in other words manipulated the threads to create life, in other words manipulated the force to create life... We don´t know where he learned how to do it and maybe this show is here to exactly elaborate on this detail about conceptions of force sensitive people through the force.
U r not a clown u r the whole queer circus who knows nothing apart from what they see in woke shitz
The current directors and writers have not learned and never will.
I haven’t kept up with the new Star Wars shows, but I heard the discourse about this one and needed to watch the video. I just have one question…is that Tommon walking around with the padawan braid??
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