This Is Why You Shouldn't Use a BOV On A Stock WRX/STI

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  • I see this come up a lot and because I had the parts in the garage I wanted to actually show everyone what happens when you use a BOV on a Car that is utilizing a MAF (Mass Airflow Sensor). The issue is that when you change from a bypass valve to blow off valve you are loosing all of the metered air that the MAF has already accounted for. As a result the car will run more rich when it is under load when the BOV Opens. The car sends too much fuel and not enough air into the engine. This can result in Fouled Plugs, Stumbling, Unburnt fuel can start to destroy your catalytic converter among other issues. Hopefully this helps to show the potential issues with installing a BOV. Now I can't stop you from doing so and if you have to have the sound that I would suggest you get a hybrid BOV that still recirculates some of the air back into the system.
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  • @MEEDO_
    @MEEDO_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Hey man, there is no way that it would make a difference running that low RPM, The BOV only opens up to let the air out when the boost pressure is above 0 (Hence the BOV sound). Anything below 0, you should not even notice the difference because it's a closed system... So with all do respect, what you are saying does not make sense. If its open below 0, that would indicate a boost leak.

    • @motochris26ify
      @motochris26ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      especially when running something like the GFB TMS Hybrid. Zero chance you’re gonna mess up the closed loop system if you’re setting the spring tension correctly. That’s literally it.

    • @panderalexander
      @panderalexander ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Good reply, the poster never replied to this because you mention facts.

    • @CallOfBooty13
      @CallOfBooty13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Let me know when you start making videos so I can follow you instead. Your comment is common sense, literally entering the chat.

    • @carlosquintana9165
      @carlosquintana9165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@panderalexander exactly

    • @dylanboyance3682
      @dylanboyance3682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I blew up my 2011 wrx because i added a bov on my cobb OTS map. ran lean and threw a rod

  • @danielmimm795
    @danielmimm795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I'm new to cars period. I just ordered a 2021 WRX Limited and I want to learn all the things. I took a quick course they offered on post to learn basic engines, watch some videos to learn about the turbo, boxer, direct injection, etc. My understanding of all this is very very basic. If I'm watching this saying, math based car? Speed density? Blow off valve? Charge piping? Where can I start to learn about all these things? I got a little overwhelmed when I tried starting with nasoic. Long road ahead but I want to know. BTW I'm a nurse so I'm literally starting from the ground up. Thanks!!

  • @jakeselvius6502
    @jakeselvius6502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whenever I google a question, you’re the first video. I appreciate all the help bro!

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glaf the videos are helping my man! 🙏😁

  • @Soobas
    @Soobas ปีที่แล้ว

    what about just blocking your bov and having compressor surge. obviously a bypass valve would be better but would no bov be better or worse than having a bov

  • @sssnake2332
    @sssnake2332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The BOV isn't what was causing your issues at idle. How could it when there is no boost to blow off?
    Regardless, you can't tune for a BOV. I get really tired of telling people that. There is no special table for "WOT release" or anything. They do slightly increase how rich the car runs for that brief moment when letting off the throttle, more pops and bangs, which in turn can hurt the cat and turbo since those explosions are happening nearby.

    • @sssnake2332
      @sssnake2332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With Speed Density, there is no tuning you can do either. It's just that the reference of MAP is a lot closer to the injectors than the MAF is, so there is a lot less time of fuel squirt at WOT release.
      Anyway, I am so sick of BOV arguments, and this video makes it worse. 175k views and counting ;(

    • @DifferentColt
      @DifferentColt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sssnake2332 Thanks for the explanation! I bought my '18 STI a little over a month ago which came with a GFB bov, and I've been reading forums on the subject ever since. I don't have any of the issues that Smeedia was having in the video so I wasn't too sure what to think. I love the sounds my bov makes, but I'm not going to keep it on at the expense of my cars health... :C
      RIP 😢

  • @11Xshadowolf
    @11Xshadowolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious you said "backfire" sorry I am newer to the Tuner world i'm use to carb's and "backfire" is ignition in the intake so is that what happens ? or is it "afterflare" ?

  • @jordanhawthorne7636
    @jordanhawthorne7636 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if you get it tuned for the bov it is alright?

  • @lance_the_avocado9492
    @lance_the_avocado9492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick question and note, if I get a GFB Hybrid BOV would I need to get a pro tune to run it with the BOV? The GFB is a hybrid between BPV and BOV and you can change it from BPV to BOV by twisting the head of the unit, you can also run it 50/50. Any ideas on this?

    • @bfunky7517
      @bfunky7517 ปีที่แล้ว

      Won't need a tune with 100% recirculation. You'll get little noise, but not worth causing issues to the engine for big 'Psh' noises. I'm getting the GFB Hybrid Bov for my 04 Wrx Wagon, it's Stock except Turboback exhaust (which was tuned for) and STI Downpipe. Once I get it I'll share my experience.

  • @DoTheCrunk
    @DoTheCrunk ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got a 2011 wrx and now I’m torn on what to do to the bpv that won’t make it less reliable:/

  • @giovannimateo-ramos1406
    @giovannimateo-ramos1406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a boomba bpv be bad for my stock wrx ?😭

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should be totally fine 🙏

  • @noocann
    @noocann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    This is a common myth. The system is dependent on 1) the TPS signal, and 2) the BOV itself.
    Modern fuel injection system do a fuel-cut on decel to 1) save gas, and 2) alow the revs to drop faster; the fuel-cut decel should override any fuel delivery (issues).
    If the TPS is slightly off, it'll keep shooting fuel on decel - this is how you get the popping on decel or in between shift.
    If the BOV doesn't seal fully (which it sounds like this is the case in this video), you get an intake vacuum leak - what were the vacuum #'s before and after the BOV install? Was it the same?
    I've seen plenty of BOV's that leak on WRX's / STI's...
    Making a BOV that 100% seals at idle makes it more expensive to produce.
    If the BOV is sealed 100%, the system is closed, and your idle should be identical to before - the fact that you're running rich means something else has changed.
    This is why some people have no issues, and why some people do have issues.

    • @benhurzewoldi8692
      @benhurzewoldi8692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jesus christ ur good

    • @yousefhamed
      @yousefhamed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You are 100% right a bov shouldnt affect idle unless its leaking

    • @jonshuacaceres9828
      @jonshuacaceres9828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was gonna say I bought my 19 wrx used that came with an HKS BOV and it’s closed system, i didn’t think it had a MAP for it installed already but I don’t have any idle issues what so ever since purchase. Seems to be working A OK. Still need to get an AP for her but other than that no issues still 🤞🏻🤞🏻

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not that sure.
      I have a Suzuki Swift Sport ZC33S (from 2018), and I installed recently (a month) the HKS SQV IV valve and I'm experiencing some of the symptoms that he says.
      Today I'll mount the recirculating tube, to see if that mitigates the lagginess and stuttering in very low revs, like when I'm in the middle of heavy traffic.
      Saddily I'll lose the high pitch sound, but in the long run I prefer to not to damage the engine.

    • @lecoureurdesbois86
      @lecoureurdesbois86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or they don't block the recirc hose that goes to the intake after MAF

  • @alexm8406
    @alexm8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Jokes on you I don’t have cats

    • @akidd2420
      @akidd2420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read this as I was thinking it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @alesana4546
      @alesana4546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean is a bov better for catless

    • @alesana4546
      @alesana4546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean are the bov better for catless

    • @Tick25
      @Tick25 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same lol

    • @marshallmatthews5224
      @marshallmatthews5224 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @jadenw2985
    @jadenw2985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Now that you mentioned it, you gotta make a video explaining speed density

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Thats difficult, ill see what I can do to make it easily understandable 🔥

    • @zacharywilburn7253
      @zacharywilburn7253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      MAF measures the mass of air that enters the engine. Speed density calculates the amount of air that goes in the engine by measuring pressure, manifold air temp and rpm. You must use a float valve style BOV that does not stay open under vacuum. If so you simply need to change one number in the tune. His engine is actualy over correcting for running lean because its sucking in air at the BOV.

    • @hahnmowermotorsports179
      @hahnmowermotorsports179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did a ton of reading about speed density vs maf tuning for my lt1 corvette motor. Same concept different platform. I’ll see if I can find the link, it’s a ton of relevant information to the topic

    • @lloydturner48
      @lloydturner48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See, its a missconception. You can use a twin piston/diaphragm type atmospheric bov on maf setups and they work as perfect as they do with the recirc valve.
      If you were car guys youd know this...
      Ive run a loud bov on every turbo car ive had and all being maf setup.
      Do some research and stop talking shit.

    • @kurtis_mcewan
      @kurtis_mcewan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia What about a HKS Super SQV4 Blow Off Valve would still need a full speed density tune?

  • @MrJames6891
    @MrJames6891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I like how he "smelt fuel" when afrs were stoich

    • @blairmiller311
      @blairmiller311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "I'm scared because the rpms are dropping low" probably because the ecu is trying to re learn everything. What exhaust is that? Kinda sounds like dookie

  • @MrGradeAHaze
    @MrGradeAHaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Idk man, I know science is science but I’ve owned 3 Subaru’s, rocked a BOV and OTS tune on all 3, put easily 75k+ miles on all 3, and had 0 issues related to the BOV. All cars were tested and healthy at time of sale. Maybe I’m just the lucky statistic 3 times over. Nice video and very informative though, keep up the good work

    • @dynamicgarage4727
      @dynamicgarage4727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justin Geier same loool

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen some cars respond different using OTS Tunes, if you have a higher quality valve it would mitigate out some of the leaking issues that other valves have had.

    • @enemen8
      @enemen8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. I just installed a fully atmospheric bov on my 2018 sti and I didnt have an of these issues that smeedia has. Maybe theres some underlying issue causing the knock in this video? I installed mine after watching and did little revs like this and not a single issue. Maybe its cause his bov spring was too loose and was by passing even the slightest bit of pressure? Maybe it's not having that long pipe on the ic piping for the stock bpv location? But I dont think that knock issue is directly because of installing a vented vs recirc valve.

    • @Black16STI
      @Black16STI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enemen8 The car is not designed for it, doesn't mean you can't get away with it. Typically the Supreme crowd or "younger" crowd throw them on without knowing anything, go get a tune and ask for the "Can i get a dope crackle n pop tune with a touch of flames out the exhaust, bruh?"

    • @mps024
      @mps024 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@enemen8 no matter what it's not good for the car

  • @bbehzadi413
    @bbehzadi413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What are your thoughts on the HKS blow off valve with the recirculating kit to make it a bypass valve?

  • @tbas8741
    @tbas8741 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you setup BOV correctly the car will not idle or run ANY different, unless you did it wrong then it will idle differently, or its a POS like that valve,
    If you can smell fuel or it runs different you done screwed up and not installed it correctly or its not adjusted correctly,
    during idle the valve is 100% closed and doing nothing so wont effect anything.
    (High quality valves like GFB Hybrid are the best and cant even leak even if 100psi boost)
    Makes almost no difference it only runs lean for 0.15 - 0.3 seconds when you let off the gas and as you are not making power it does not matter if AFR's goto full rich
    If coasting down a hill in gear AFRs are meaningless as injectors are shutoff during coasting.
    Even the guy who started the rumor in the UK admitted to it after like 15 years that he was just making it up as he hates all the ricer Subarus going around making blow off noises (Ricer/Racer boys)
    It all started from him and was just a joke,
    Just like the DR who joked about Vaccines causing Autism in a paper he wrote and accidentally started the now stupid idea people have that its real, Even year later when he said it was just a joke in the paper he wrote people wont believe him and say he must have been paid out by Big pharma.
    Put it on dyno and watch the lean condition is so short if you blink you WILL miss it as human eye takes .25 seconds to blink so easy to miss a rich condition that last .15-.3 seconds.
    If you are serious about tuning should be replacing the plugs every 10,000KM as they will be copper spark plugs which are best for fuel burn and so on.

  • @tristanmerrill7563
    @tristanmerrill7563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also you said that the extra fuel would get into your oil as it ran down the cylinder wall. You would have to be running insanely rich to have left over liquid fuel in your combustion’s chamber(like 5:1 gasoline). Also your wideband afr gauge on the right side of your steering wheel was reading anywhere from 14.5-15.1. Not rich at all as the stoichiometric air fuel ratio of gasoline is 14.7:1

  • @Plastiiic.
    @Plastiiic. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This video makes me laugh lol “the car smells rich “ I installed a hks bov on my sti and had no problems honestly it’s running great,
    Talk to your tuner.

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As long as your not on an OTS Tune with the BOV its not a huge issue. A protune fixes a lot of the out the box issues associated with just slapping one on

    • @Plastiiic.
      @Plastiiic. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smeedia I believe I’m on a OTS tune at the moment, I have to talk to my tuner but it’s so weird that your car has symptoms like that. Have you had any updates on it?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I pulled the BOV off the car after the vidro and stayed with the bypass valve, im going on a hybrid speed density tune so because I am still utilizing some of the MAF I'm sticking with thr BPV. But based off of what I did im sure the BOV was leaking air causing idel to be all screwed

    • @Plastiiic.
      @Plastiiic. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smeedia I would like to come help you maybe the rubber inside the inserts were not tighten down? Or the rubber seal bad? Also my kit came with a recirculating kit with my hks bov, if you want you can try it on your car if you wanna run the hks!

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only used the BOV as an instructional piece for the video to demonstrate the effects of an out the box BOV on an OTS TUNE. But greatly appreciate the advice!

  • @clintmurdock119
    @clintmurdock119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Id guess you done have it setup right. My GFB Hybrid BoV was installed by a master tech at a Subaru dealership and I have 0 problems. Its running about 50/50 recirc/vta. Also its only going to "run rich" for a split second during a high rpm shift. If anything that split second of rich is going to help vs engine knock.
    Its been on the car for 2 years (35k+ miles).

    • @kolyclips3772
      @kolyclips3772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how much you pay for it?

    • @jeprodigalson792
      @jeprodigalson792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the same BOV on my 2015 STI Works amazing with a higher hp setup too. No dedicated tuning but I will be tuning this winter

    • @clintmurdock119
      @clintmurdock119 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeprodigalson792 Im at 72k miles now everythings still great. Still no tune.

  • @akidd2420
    @akidd2420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aren't the problems you speak of only if you do a vent to atmosphere & have cats???

  • @bennyhall89
    @bennyhall89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Smells so rich because you have the valve right open, should be at a minimum 50/50

  • @ralpheezy
    @ralpheezy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I have an fully recirculating hks bov paired with a cobb big sf intake. E-tuned by William Knose at Delicious Tuning by the way. In my opinion, this is the way to go if you want those spooly boy noises. The stock airbox muffles alot, so you can certainly hear the bov noises through an upgraded intake. Side note, my hks bov is a 13 year old original version from 2007, that was still brand new in the box that I never used for a prelude build I never finished before joining the Marines.

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thats a good find to be able to reuse! And the intake really helps to bring out a lot of those noises as you said 🔥

    • @perziano6134
      @perziano6134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia Is the BOV different when the car has MAP rather then a MAF? 2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport to be exact. thanks

    • @christiangoyer
      @christiangoyer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@perziano6134MAP and MAF are not interchangeable unfortunately

  • @Is-ub2gw
    @Is-ub2gw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I should’ve watched this video before I almost messed up my engine..got a 2004 wrx and installed this bov the whistle so freakin nice but after few months the sounds started to go down until its gone and after that i startedto hear like fluttering noise from my engine and dont know wth is going on even my mechanic got headache i gave him tylenol..please listen to this guy and dont install that piece of crap.🤓

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @luvhcchris
    @luvhcchris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bpv delete for high pitch PSSHHHHH-STUTUTUTU ezpz

  • @tristanmerrill7563
    @tristanmerrill7563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes no sense. If you had true in depth knowledge on this you would know that installing the bov wouldn’t change the idle of the car one bit. The only time the blow off valve will effect the air fuel ratio of the car is when there is pressure built up in the manifold and then the throttle is closed (during shifts) although I don’t run a bov on my car because I prefer the performance gains of a bypass valve(keeping more air in the engine during shifts) they will not hurt the car. As you said they will make it run more rich during shifts which may foul spark plugs faster but really won’t make a huge difference. On top of that Subaru’s use open loop fueling once in higher loads even when you are pro tuned with a cobb. Open loop fueling uses a target air fuel ratio or lambda and can very slightly adjust injector duty cycle to change your air fuel ratio and get it back to normal. Also you mentioned that the car showed some amount of fine knock learn when you were leaving the driveway which cannot be due to the bov. Fine knock learn is a ignition timing adjustment that the ecu makes over a long period of time when it tends to see knock at a particular load and rpm. If the bov was causing some sort of detonation, you would see that in feedback knock which is a real-time adjustment made by the ecu immediately when it senses detonation. Just thought I’d give you my .02 since I have built a few of these engines and tuned a couple

  • @kmsti8677
    @kmsti8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    still, a newbie would put on a bov because it sounds 10000000x cooler.

  • @JohnStax98
    @JohnStax98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a ricer that wants to run a bov and muffler deletes on a stock sti 😭😭

  • @scottr3141
    @scottr3141 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hope all Subaru owners are such drama queens. BOV doesn't do shit until you slam the throttle body closed, no way it runs any different just idling or even cruising speeds.

  • @redone8341
    @redone8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This made me proud of choosing the Perrin Bypass :)

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Perrin is a good option to use! 🔥😁

    • @aquapisces24
      @aquapisces24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Smeedia Excuse me but what's the purpose of replacing a bypass with another bypass?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spring pressure, the OEM valve can hold around 20lbs of boost but once you start to exceed it you need a stronger valve

    • @aquapisces24
      @aquapisces24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia So it's a must in highly modified turbo engines?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yessir 🙏

  • @wrx_david2382
    @wrx_david2382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And I’m still gonna do it✨

  • @bbbbbbbbbbbb27
    @bbbbbbbbbbbb27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! These videos are keeping me from ripping my hair out during this quarantine

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad that they're helping my friend!

  • @somith2329
    @somith2329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dont use full vent to atmosphere like hks or greddy use a gfb or turbosmart adjustable bov.

  • @CCGDude
    @CCGDude 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 04 literally sounds like a turbo diesel truck. Pretty damn lame whistles if you ask me. I want to pew pew pew when I shift.. how do I do it

  • @danjjr
    @danjjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should be a simple answer - 21' STI only with ETS Extreme, would an adjustable GFB BOV set to 50/50 on OE be okay? Enjoy ya vids, thanks. 👍

  • @swishyboi7444
    @swishyboi7444 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video bro
    What if I'm running both SD and MAF running BOV should be good with pro tune? 400whp

  • @Useless_101
    @Useless_101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still baffles me why Americans refer them as blow of valves and by pass valves.... makes so much more sense to state it as vent to atmosphere or recirculating bovs
    No explanation needed once you state them that way!

  • @terrellrhodes4256
    @terrellrhodes4256 ปีที่แล้ว

    Biggest load of crap i seen in a while running at idle would do next to nothing the car isnt entering boost also with my audi i had diverter valves that could do full bypass 50/50 or vent to atmosphere guess how i ran it most yup vent to atmosphere and never caused a issue

  • @Milkpower2125
    @Milkpower2125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If tuned accordingly is the bov still worth it? Or is it better just having the bpv overall even if tuned properly? I want the sounds but definitely wanna keep the engine as reliable as I can

    • @jacksonr1337
      @jacksonr1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      im in the same boat!!! I want the sounds!!

    • @nes3382
      @nes3382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacksonr1337 I’ve had a gfb respons on my ej20 for ages with no issue, 30/70 atmospheric and recirc with a few adjustments to the valve spring tension to get it perfect and it runs like stock plus the cool noises

    • @jukebox9175
      @jukebox9175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nes3382 in the exact same boat here. i love the GFB and have it set up the same way as you. Its definitely worth it to get an adjustable BOV like GFB or turbosmart!

    • @nes3382
      @nes3382 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jukebox9175 100%

  • @Kyezie131
    @Kyezie131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sick of hearing all this bullshit about how you shouldnt put vent to atmosphere blow off valves on recirculating cars with MAFs. We fucking get it. That doesn't answer the question that literally all these people are asking "How do I make my WRX/ STI make the blow off valve noise between shifts? WITHOUT damaging my engine." It's a simple question, but no one tells us the answer.

  • @timmann111
    @timmann111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry but this video is useless. All you said is why you think it's bad and showed the car running low rpm for a sec and stopped it. Why even post this?

  • @owenrose9336
    @owenrose9336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t even rev my stock Sti to 5k so I hope I baby mine forever and keep it mint

  • @artisticvelocityjr7810
    @artisticvelocityjr7810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2004 wrx and put the hks bov on and now the engine is throwing engine rich code and cylinder 1,2, and 4 misfire i put the bypass valve back on. how do i know if the damage was made or will the codes go away after awhile?

  • @brianrapley567
    @brianrapley567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mate there fkn made to rymun on those engines tbey dont destroy anything get a gfp respinse BOV tmive ran obe foe 2 years and my liberty gt 2 5 turbs loves it as yoy can vent to tbe sytem ir atmosphere which i run and it doesnt run rich at all

  • @njbrion07
    @njbrion07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think we got the point after the first 3 times you said if it runs like a bag of shit you’re not taking the car out 😂🤡

  • @boheatherill4749
    @boheatherill4749 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a load of shit , bov are closed under throttle and at idle they only open for a second when you're underboost and shut the throttle if yours it opening and drawing air in at idle the spring load is wrong

  • @sebastian4383
    @sebastian4383 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk, i got one for my bugeye and my afrs didnt change at all, im on a jdm motor and ecu and everything was the same as before

  • @carlosquintana9165
    @carlosquintana9165 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did something wrong! They are a lot of subarus where i lived with bov and they run very fine

  • @jpoltv9708
    @jpoltv9708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    time for me to remove my blow3 off valve same issues lots of pops sounds could but now i know why the knocking and the smell.

  • @mattixmatusiak5618
    @mattixmatusiak5618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m running a Cobb lf recirculating bpv car feels and runs like it did while the stock one was on it do I need a tune

  • @danielyablon8755
    @danielyablon8755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All u proved is don't add stuff to your car without a proper tune. U can tune the car to not expect the returning air

  • @dylanc6585
    @dylanc6585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how can u get a bov then u need a intake sry Ik new to cars getting a 2022 wrx in July this year

  • @DylanMorehouse
    @DylanMorehouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought my 12’ STi with a BOV already installed (and intake and exhaust) and a protune. Seems to run great, anything else I should look out for or be worried about? Knock monitoring is all within normal limits. I’m straight ricer and dig the noises. If it’s okay, I think I’ll keep it. Will have tuner check out car just to be safe. What do you think? It’s just tough cuz there’s so much polarity in this topic… hard to get a straight answer

    • @crystaldaeya012
      @crystaldaeya012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it’s running great than fuck this guy 😂 listen to your car don’t listen to this twit spreading misinformation lmao

  • @asaplucifer7866
    @asaplucifer7866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never had any issues with bov on subarus and I did run a go fast bits bov but still not a problem

  • @kurtlazarus5975
    @kurtlazarus5975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tighten the bov up and make sure it shuts before car goes to idle 🤣 aka no idea

  • @Sheriff_McPants
    @Sheriff_McPants ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get that it's an MAF based engine. I have a stock tuned STI that I recently picked up with a 50/50 valve and an ETS front mount and an intake. Knowing how anal everyone is they are probably gonna die just reading that sentence. Yes I do plan on tuning it. The ONLY thing I've noticed vs driving my friends pro tuned car with a fully recirculating valve is that once I get near atmospheric pressure (0, no vacuum or boost) the car does tend to kinda stumble a little. Though I'm guessing that's more of the fault of the intercooler. The car has never smelled rich, even with a muffler delete on it. Never stumbles at idle, no dips at idle, nothing. These valves ONLY open once you reach boost. Sure you went into launch control, but boost is pretty low on that. Not only that, there was no apples to apples comparison here. What were the numbers before the BOV? The title is also "don't do this to your STOCK Subaru" my guy, your car is pro tuned and is far from stock. I don't see how your trying to make an argument when there are other people who aren't experiencing these issues, or if you have or have not experienced them yourself and if this is all just speculation. Also modern cars knock, ALL the time. The knock sensor is there to help find out if it needs to lean or rich the system to prevent it. The cars ecu makes the adjustments necessary. I'd bet that if you would let the ECU learn more, it would run better, instead of letting it idle for 5 mins, doing revs / launch control, going back and forward 2 or 3 times, and then saying "yep, BOV bad, only do recirc valves"

    • @austinpoaurs9871
      @austinpoaurs9871 ปีที่แล้ว

      I installed turbosmart 50/50 on 22wrx, it stumbles if you're stationary rev and vent.

  • @noki448
    @noki448 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bullshi* video.., Blow-Off valve has nothing to do with idle!!!...,

  • @KevinPhipps-v1m
    @KevinPhipps-v1m 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @SimonPhoenix2022
    @SimonPhoenix2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been running my bov for 18 months on 380 HP wrx. No issues at all.. I stay up on maintenance, and plugs look normal. I recommend getting one if you want.

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get produced with it on the car? The major issue of it is using a BOV on a Stock car or one with an OTS Map which already have their own issues with them.

    • @SimonPhoenix2022
      @SimonPhoenix2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Smeedia it was the first mod I put on my car and I ran it for over a year before getting a protune.

  • @MyVideossup
    @MyVideossup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo! Thank you bro! I am new to owning a wrx sti (2021) and I have relied on you to learn more! This is fantastic for people like me learning!

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I can help! Congrats on the car as well!

    • @MyVideossup
      @MyVideossup 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia Thanks man appreciate it!!

  • @phonkave2993
    @phonkave2993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy's on repeat. Repeats the same thing 20 fucking times.

  • @curtislind8661
    @curtislind8661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... what's the point of buying a subaru if you can't mod it how you want to

  • @cl3935
    @cl3935 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Basically, get a tune after modifying.

  • @thekellerfam4162
    @thekellerfam4162 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said you were going to take the car out with the same reason about 6 times

  • @briggs814
    @briggs814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If ur sayin it runs rich why isn’t the wideband saying so

  • @lloydturner48
    @lloydturner48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I run twin piston atmospheric collins bov on my maf setup car as i have with all my maf setups without throwing an engine light.

  • @cloudgaming3043
    @cloudgaming3043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would smell change with a bov install while idling. 🤔

  • @m3ta7ron21
    @m3ta7ron21 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same "black" OBEY hat! 😂😂NICEn

  • @sebastian4383
    @sebastian4383 ปีที่แล้ว

    and also why not just get a recirculating bov???

  • @joshuasilva8073
    @joshuasilva8073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will I be okay if I install a grimspeed bpv on my stock 2020 wrx?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes 🤝

    • @joshuasilva8073
      @joshuasilva8073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Smeedia thanks dad I can always rely on you ❤️ 👍🏼

    • @joshuasilva8073
      @joshuasilva8073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ik I always ask you for help and knowledge great subi lord but I need help I installed the gs bpv but no sound do I need and intake or something else or is the part not working like it should?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An intake will definitely help you get some of the sound 🙏 turbo inlet will help to increase it as well 🤝

    • @joshuasilva8073
      @joshuasilva8073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia thanks what would the world do without our subi dad 👨 😢 🙏 ❤️

  • @rocoroco814
    @rocoroco814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you make it seem like your engine would instantly blow up if you run a BOV on your car..... yea your car will run like crap..... that's the same for intake... you're going to have a "risk" of blowing up your car without proper mod/tuning. but instantly blowing up? come on bro..... it's not that serious

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never said it would instantly blow up, run like hot garage yes, personally wouldn't drive it with the idle being as it was but also tearing the car apart for. Build so don't want to replace anything not needed for the time being so being a little conservative with the car ATM

  • @sti_clone3840
    @sti_clone3840 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this was Donut Media they would of just sent it lmao

  • @Austin_1111
    @Austin_1111 ปีที่แล้ว

    All I know my 1995 gst turbo eclipse worked fine no problems greedy bov great products, Also my 2020 honda 1.5t hks bov no problems ,you have to buy a quality products hks and greedy, and get it tuned shortly after u get it and who cares if u ruin your catalytic converter,buy another one ,just listening to your poop 💩 lol, oh and both vented to atmosphere so go get that turbo sound ,Whooshing!!!!

  • @Skater6588
    @Skater6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a bov on my boosted frs and it ran like a freight train

  • @kevinhunt1223
    @kevinhunt1223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds soo cool but if they car isn't ready for it your not 😆

  • @thepubwiththeboys
    @thepubwiththeboys 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg.... what’s with the fucking camera work

  • @itsjorgie588
    @itsjorgie588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am a brand new owner to a 2015 wrx and i got a hks ssq blow off valve and i’m wondering if i need to get a tune for it or i can just install it right away and the car is stock

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd tune for it, wouldent run one without a tune

  • @okthen8445
    @okthen8445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not even a stock sti. Do a video on a real stock sti. No nothing on it or time. Allot of people want this out of the dealership. This is what happens when you do this when you already have a tune.

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar will happen on a srock STI, the MAF pulls data from what it is seeing such as mine. When you add an Atmospheroc BOV onto thr car you loose a portion of the metered air. While the minor rich condition will cause little to no harm the lean condition following will cause issues. The lost air will also cause stumbling and potentially thr car to die when let back down to idle. I suspect that the one I installed had a leak in it from the factory already which worsened the conditions shown. But this was as close to an emulation as possible before a hybrid SD tune went onto the car.

  • @sipoppy984
    @sipoppy984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Went through the trouble of install/vlog..should of taken it around the block. Don't be a va-geye.

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ima be a Va-geye

  • @benjonesss
    @benjonesss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    tune your car for a bov 😂😂😂😂 fuckin ridiculous

  • @genadinecariaga810
    @genadinecariaga810 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you disconnect BOV and not use it?

  • @samuelaudet845
    @samuelaudet845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the car is going to run rich only after the blow off valve opens not on idle or cruising XD unless the spring is set extremely soft
    edit: hybrid is best of both world imo

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The issue with the BOV is when the car is not produced with it and is paired with a OTS Map or OE tune. As long as the tuner is fine with it and tunes the car with it, the WCU has some idea of what is going on

    • @samuelaudet845
      @samuelaudet845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Smeedia I agree letting metered air escape is no good, but a 50/50 bov will not make a car run much worse, just richer as you shift. The stalling and stumbling happen on fully atmospheric bov like the Hks or set to a low spring pressure .

    • @TOisONit
      @TOisONit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Smeedia I've been out of the tuning game 12+ years, but at one point HKS made a recirc adapter. Do they not anymore?

    • @7ate7
      @7ate7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samuelaudet845 That's actually incorrect. 50/50 Hybrid valves will make the car behave exactly like this. You will have stalling issues, rich A/F mixture issues. I know this because I have a Turbosmart 50/50 hybrid valve, and ended up going back to stock BPV because I got tired of dealing with the stalling, richness and turbo flutter (because of the FMIC).

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They still make the recirculating adaptor but its never utilized

  • @justinharrison5517
    @justinharrison5517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do I need a tune if I went with a Perrin Recirculation valve? Engine, intake and turbo are all stock

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No you don't 🙏

  • @SGQ12
    @SGQ12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So in my understanding here, it is much better to use BVP booba?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yessir the boomba one is a great one to use as well

  • @joeplescia2145
    @joeplescia2145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You still have a stock turbo inlet and tgv’s? Do you recommend changing those out ? I want to make 350 hp on my 18 sti limited. I have killer b oil pan etc cylinder 4 cooling mod iag aos stage 1 Cobb sf and a full Cobb exhaust with catted dp

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your going to need to swap the fuel system ( Injectors, pump FPR and rails) swap the turbo, and a few other things but your well on the way. I will be swapping to TGV Deletes and changing out the turbo inlet on mine

    • @joeplescia2145
      @joeplescia2145 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smeedia stock turbo is maxed out that quick ?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir, had to get some clarification from a few tuners but they all said that the OE VF48 wouldn't be able to handle 350WHP reliably

    • @joeplescia2145
      @joeplescia2145 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smeedia that’s disappointing feel like that’s not a huge increase compared to other cars stock turbos. finding out really quick subaru’s ain’t cheap!

  • @dsmjaime
    @dsmjaime 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y’all exaggerate, especially the dude that made this video. Jeezus Christ you overdid it

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus straight up over did it

  • @channelgreen5949
    @channelgreen5949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question here….will i pass smog emissions test in California if i put catted downpipe on my Sti? Thanks

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it is a CARB legal downpipe yes you will

    • @channelgreen5949
      @channelgreen5949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia any suggestion on brand or model downpipe for my 2021 STi? the carb legal one.....thanks by the way for answering your viewers questions, you always take the time. wishing you more success on youtube, watching your channel made me decide and buy STi! youre gonna do great things!

  • @christopherrogers8316
    @christopherrogers8316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait so my WRX is stock but the previous owner put a BOV on it, should I take it off?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thr FA20 WRX responds okay to it, the EJ series a little less so. Personally I wluld replace it back with a BPV if it is not tuned

  • @Grim-STi
    @Grim-STi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my 15 STi with a turbo smart adjustable bov set to 50/50 recirc & atmospheric
    It came with 150,000kms, do you think it would of had to be tuned for the bov to get that kind of mileage?
    I can’t get in contact with the previous owner and the place I got it from said it was tuned but I honestly just think they were saying what they think I wanted to hear because I haven’t got any receipts for it.
    I get a few pops but only when I really floor it then change gear, other than that I can make the exhaust pop on command every-time I rev match when down shifting but I assumed that’s because I got an axle back muffler delete

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would probably get it in for a tune, just running that BPV/BOV alone won't cause any major harm. But to run optimally I would suggest tuning if you done have any evidence showing thr car had one prior

    • @Grim-STi
      @Grim-STi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia okay I’ll be doing that soon then, thank you!, last question I have is would you say 120,000 miles is too high to get tuned?
      I’m at 119,000 now

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, getting mine tuned here soon with 132K on it 🙌

  • @ricardoescobar2861
    @ricardoescobar2861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a 2021 STI . It’s possible to use a Boomba BPV on my stock engine?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes you can use a BPV, won't cause any issues 🙏

  • @cassiejvance7496
    @cassiejvance7496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Tanna, it's UK Subie guy. Waw, it's been a long time from this video, & You buying my dream car for the next chapter of the channel. I really like seeing the influence you give out in every video, no matter how hard the next part instal/removal. There are so many Great car covered ytube channels adopting your style & weeding out the fake weekend mechanic. Gracias mi amigo 🇬🇧🤘🤘🤘🤘

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always appreciate the support my friend ❤️

  • @Jose-fr9ll
    @Jose-fr9ll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you put Both a BPV and a BOV then get it tuned . Would it run good with both of them on there .

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean you could, but no reason why you should 😅

  • @shakennotstirred3607
    @shakennotstirred3607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you run a boomba bypass valve on a stock 2021 wrx without a tune?

  • @luckaskarver9106
    @luckaskarver9106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hopefully you see this i just picked up a 2021 wrx and was about to get a catback exhaust on it was just wondering if theres any simple way that wont hurt the car to make the turbo any louder?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh I see it Luckas 👀 congrats on the car!
      Normally with exhausts catless J pipes will give it more sound. But I'd suggest staying catted and just snagging a catback for now 🔥

    • @luckaskarver9106
      @luckaskarver9106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia alrighty thank you very much i dont know much about these cars yet and dont wanna hurt it tryns make the turbo louder

  • @zanacku
    @zanacku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Come for a subi video. Stayed for the train asmr

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jensenliu9457
    @jensenliu9457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ve got a 50/50 hybrid BOV on my WRX would that be ok ? The car is running rich sometimes and spitting carbon out of exhaust. Should I take it off ?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ideally you'd want to keep it at full recirc if your not tuned for the 50/50

    • @jensenliu9457
      @jensenliu9457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smeedia Guess it's not tuned properly, otherwise it wouldnt run that rich. My tail is covered with those black unburnt fuel dirt all the time. should I just get a BPV or just tune it right ?

  • @RICKJAMES13450
    @RICKJAMES13450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a stock 2010 STI with an hks bov and my car drives perfect.

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as it is working for ya 🔥

  • @thegoodmusicwontdie
    @thegoodmusicwontdie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So can you run a BOV on a stock WRX if it’s tuned properly?

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If its properly tuned yes

  • @anotherstar8125
    @anotherstar8125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...so what about the HKS SQV4 with recirculation kit?

  • @NorthofNiflheim
    @NorthofNiflheim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait so what about your older BOV video saying it’s not that bad

    • @Smeedia
      @Smeedia  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its manageable as long as you have a tune to go with it, the main issue stems from OTS Tunes and OEM tunes. If your pro tuned with a BKV on MAF you'll be alright, just need to let the ECU know whats going on with the Air