Boss Snowplow -Failure after failure in The Back Drag Pro

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  • In 2 months his Boss back drag pro snow plow broke 88 sheer pins, was in the shop 4 times, ripped through the frame, and had the controller fail over & over- including twice during this video.
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  • @jamesjohnsn4268
    @jamesjohnsn4268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    Boss should give this guy,a full refund!!!WTF way to many issues.the back drag pro cost like 6000.00 bucks..I would be pissed off.

    • @tractorboy31
      @tractorboy31 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well this is large scale bad press

    • @user-maxim_79
      @user-maxim_79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Junk

    • @thomasgibson8887
      @thomasgibson8887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Agreed that things a lemon if their ever was one! Stalling out, breaking shear pins , upgrade the pin and then bend the thing lose lose situation. I'd be pissed tfo

    • @andrewcanrinus5186
      @andrewcanrinus5186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      seems to me that boss cheaped out on the steel grade where it matters too. You would be better off with a no name from canadian tire than that crap.

    • @Mikebagisitichy
      @Mikebagisitichy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Buy a Western!!

  • @VictoryOutdoorServices
    @VictoryOutdoorServices 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I had a friend in his sixties who had been a welder his whole life get a job at boss a couple years ago. He told me that management is all about production and the quality control suffers greatly because of it. It got to the point that it drove him nuts because he really likes to do quality work and they were pushing him to just get it done quickly so he ended up quitting.

    • @billvandorn5332
      @billvandorn5332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't blame him for quitting! Demonstrates moral courage to achieve a bar of excellence and to maintain a moral compass! That's integrity and character!

    • @ShakaShinePressureWashing
      @ShakaShinePressureWashing ปีที่แล้ว

      3 year old Ryan comment 👀

  • @emmettlodge5516
    @emmettlodge5516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is probably the most damning review on a plow I've ever seen. Boss should trash this design and start over. Oh, and give the poor guy his money back.

  • @scottish4276
    @scottish4276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    This man is so calm. I would be the complete opposite. Boss owes him big time!

    • @Drewsky840
      @Drewsky840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out Stanley's newest video! He talks about this at the end of the video.

    • @alphonsotate2982
      @alphonsotate2982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ONE INCH SNOW FALL IT IS REALLY DESIGNED FOR WITH THOSE LITTLE PINS AND THAT WEAK ELECTRIC PUMP THEY NEED HEAVY EQUIPMENT LIKE A LOADER WITH A SNOW PUSHER OR SNOW BLOWER TO MOVE THAT AMOUNT OF SNOW AT ONE TIME THEY BOTH ARE OVER LOADING THEIR EQUIPMENT

    • @rnrudynh1427
      @rnrudynh1427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is. Way calmer than I'd be. These companies don't care once your check clears. Fisher has had a entire plow line issue with faulty headlight wiring for YEARS. They don't care.

    • @brandogeberbin7563
      @brandogeberbin7563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He never should have bought it.

    • @sendit1158
      @sendit1158 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Id be camping on Bosses doorstep to get my money back

  • @BriansLawnMaintenance
    @BriansLawnMaintenance 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Thanks for videos like these Stan. If I was going to pick up a back blade it’s cool seeing you review the 3 top brands before we ever do. Thanks for doing videos on these since there’s not much info on them yet. Sorry for the guys issues, that sucks.

    • @ChuckBeefOG
      @ChuckBeefOG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Buy a used skid steer with a 6way blade. You will have 10times the machine a pick up truck is.

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChuckBeefOG we have a 400hp case 340 magumm with 24 foot hla blade love the monster of the beast and blade

    • @ChuckBeefOG
      @ChuckBeefOG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Mac Tavish Ya sounds really nice. My main machine is a JD 644K on snow tires with a 16’ AMI 6way. My one lot used to take me 7 hours with the bucket at 6” of snow, i do it in 1.5hr and a better job now. Coming a long way with this stuff lately.

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChuckBeefOG yeah plus we usually put the 6 foot luck now snowblower on the back of the 340 case wich it gives way alot of hp for running our snowblower too

    • @nicholasbrown7068
      @nicholasbrown7068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelmactavish1728 Soooo, lets get this straight. You put a 6' cheap Lucknow snow blower on a 340 Case that puts out over 300hp at the pto. You must think the rest of the world is as numb as you!!! Your comments on other videos show you know nothing about anything you comment on.

  • @willysgarage1841
    @willysgarage1841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Just an honest man trying to make an honest living with an inferior product. Boss needs to make this right.

    • @alphonsotate2982
      @alphonsotate2982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HARD COMMERCIAL USE SORRY GUYS IT IS NOT A D9

    • @carmiethompson2676
      @carmiethompson2676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boss makes good stuff, I prefer Western but what we have here is a poor design. Not enough testing, that's managements fault. One thing I could suggest is a pop-off valve on the side-wing hydraulic cylinder. Like a torque wrench, when a specified line pressure is reached from the resistance the side wing is generating, the valve would open to relieve the pressure. Maybe a buzzer could go off in the cab to notify the operator. Then they would go through a procedure to reset the valve & cylinder w/o the operator getting out of the cab. It's more expensive, but how much is the trust of your customer?

    • @brandogeberbin7563
      @brandogeberbin7563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He never should have bought it in the first place.

    • @carmiethompson2676
      @carmiethompson2676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandogeberbin7563 So you've never bought anything you regretted latter? The item was less expensive then the competitors; you heard good things about the product from what you thought was a knowledgeable source; you were convinced it was easier to use; you liked the warranty or whatever. Wow, are you a genius. Not falling into the 'hindsight is 20/20' trap. Good for you Mr. Perfect!

    • @brandogeberbin7563
      @brandogeberbin7563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carmiethompson2676 First off, you never buy the cheaper model even if it comes with a Good name behind it. When i purchase things stuff I buy it for the long term use. Nothing is perfect sorry. Snow plowing is hard on every piece of equipment. He is trying to cheat the job when he should have his bobcat and snow bucket there. Instead he is running a $3500 piece of equipment and he is complaining because boss made it cheap. And he should know better.

  • @michaelmihlsimmer6237
    @michaelmihlsimmer6237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Local tire shops having a banner year, 88 drivers showing up with half inch bolts in tires. 😮

    • @MrNota500
      @MrNota500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Plot twist now Boss is selling tires... Hahaha.

  • @ijtoyosi
    @ijtoyosi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I saw this at the MN State fair. Wasn’t impressed. Nice to see these real world reviews for us in the market.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for watching Isaac!

  • @lowercherty
    @lowercherty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Meanwhile you're leaving remnants of 1/2 x 4 shear bolts all over for the lawnmower to find next summer.

  • @Donald_Shaw
    @Donald_Shaw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great to hear real life testimonials. Great job Stan.

  • @tommmarree3689
    @tommmarree3689 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Stan, I have to tell you, you put out the most honest and comprehensive video's on TH-cam, no B.S., you rock on her buddy! Good to see a fellow who is realistic, family oriented, God fearing and entertaining! Keep up the GREAT work buddy!!!!!!!

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Tomm for the awesome comments. I really appreciate it !!

  • @johnlatts2620
    @johnlatts2620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    What a piece of junk! Boss should be embarrassed

    • @cmusic52
      @cmusic52 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      that looks like a plow that's had years of wear on it, not 2 months... also looks like it wasn't designed to hold the weight of 16' of heavy snow, at most maybe 3-6in snow accumulation

    • @jacksonmarch8688
      @jacksonmarch8688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Chris Rowlison the back drag pro came out not even that long ago, boss used to make great stuff, i still think they have the best frame mounts but everything else has been scarified over the years to increase profits

    • @Gone8Fishin
      @Gone8Fishin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cmusic52 no. salt just does that kind of damage.

    • @fattony123082
      @fattony123082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Latts - I’m told Dodge is an off brand of Boss. 🤔🤔🤔. Soo that explains a lot.

    • @renegaderider9694
      @renegaderider9694 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a flawed design, it's a flawed idea. Isn't the front plow enough? This product doesn't make sense, but maybe I'm missing something. Thanks for the videos guys.

  • @waltersobchak2973
    @waltersobchak2973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    When Toro acquired Boss I lost a lot of faith in their new product development. Unfortunate but thanks for getting the information out there.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No problem Walter and thanks for viewing !

    • @keegancb84
      @keegancb84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Walter, how? Was it the SL3's (best plow headlights on the market)? Or maybe D-force? Ya know, the down pressure option every one had been wishing for? Or was it the ext? Which big innovation made you lose faith in BOSS? Rather, what original new product has any other big name plow manufacturer released lately?

    • @greenlawnaugusta3100
      @greenlawnaugusta3100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Toro manufactures their junk in Lebanon.... let that sink in

    • @jhoss8524
      @jhoss8524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greenlawnaugusta3100 then why dose toro have 3 plants in Wisconsin?... must be for show

    • @greenlawnaugusta3100
      @greenlawnaugusta3100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jhoss8524 I guess the same reason toyota and 1000s of other companies have a couple of American based plants but still manufacture 90% of their inventory over seas

  • @fknbastages
    @fknbastages 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best video out there.
    If this guy had seen this video before buying this plow, he would have saved allot of frustration and money.
    Boss is certainly a great company, and I'm 100% sure this video will send them back to the drawing boards.
    Hopefully, the more improved plow will be free for current owners of this thing.

    • @trader025
      @trader025 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy from Fisher - never had any problems. Got 1 blade that is still running 20 years later.

  • @jakeraymer5179
    @jakeraymer5179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol wow alot of comments!!! I watched alot of your videos and learn alot. I bought a 16' back dragpro and because not owning anything else I love it. The idea of cutting your time in half is awesome!! I have had that same electrical issue and after standing that module up no more issue. I have changed about ten pins and once you know your plow you dont have any issues. Here in central illinois I am taking my plows on and off all the time. VERY EASY and FAST! You get what you pay for is a life motto I strongly believe! I am happy with Boss Back Dragpro. Hope They listen to all of you and have improvements coming soon though.

  • @chrisblanchard4938
    @chrisblanchard4938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say I really enjoyed the video. Mike seems like a really cool guy. Both of you guys super chill and calm, kept my attention the whole video.

  • @dehavenfamilyfarm
    @dehavenfamilyfarm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am glad you shared this. After I saw your past snow plowing videos and saw your rear plow, I was interested in buying one. Boss is the only brand near me that sells this style plow, and I almost bought one. I am glad I didn't. I did, however, buy a Boss salt/sand spreader. It didn't work correctly right from the beginning. I fought with it for a few weeks. During that time I had kept my dealer informed of the issues. Long story short, I have a excellent relationship with my dealer, and he let me return the spreader and buy a Fisher spreader instead. Boss needs to spend more time with quality control.

    • @nicholasbrown7068
      @nicholasbrown7068 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want one of these back blades. Look into Ebling back blades. Very good reputation.

  • @zippojoker
    @zippojoker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Boss should thank you for showing the fail points so they can design something better.

  • @rockfordfinn9545
    @rockfordfinn9545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Stan. I live in Wisconsin and purchased my Drag Pro 12' in MN and have had nothing but issues with it as well. I tore the bolt hole out of the lower lift X framd on my 12' model. Terrible design, thin metal, no bushings, no grease zirks, only 1/2" of metal between bolt hole and edge of frame. The other side that didn't break showed significant elongation of the hole after 2 months use. I use mine for mostly residential and 4 small commercial properties. It took Boss over a week to send me a replacement after practically begging them to overnight due to upcoming storm. I also have a major issue with the pushbeam mounting bolts loosening up halfway through each snow event which causes the pushbeam (I have the universal mount for my 04 Superduty) to move up and down which causes the front wings to nosedive into the ground. Once the wings nosedive the center portion of the plow lifts up and leaves a 1/2" of snow on the ground (so much for a clean scrape). I would weld the push beam to the mount to alleviate the issue with the bolts loosening, however, I have another issue with significant slop in the mounting system. When properly attached the power unit/plow connection to the truck moves significantly when down pressure is applied. The slop in the mounting system causes the wing tips to dig in and lift the center of the plow. I literally have to toe out the top of the drag pro significantly so that when down pressure is applied the whole unit rocks forward to make proper contact. Boss says they are aware of the issue and a fix is 6 weeks out. As an aside I have not broken a single shear bolt on my 12' unit thankfully. Sounds like the shear bolt is enough bolt for the 12' unit but not enough for the 16'. Agree with Mike, I want my money back, too many issues for something that cost almost 6K.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you and thanks for the comments!

  • @JeeperJimbo
    @JeeperJimbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Stan !! Thankyou !! We were looking a slightly used one to quicken up production ! Guy said it just wasn't for him .. Thinking now thank god we didn't pull trigger buying it ! Honestly we thought to wait because we really haven't had snow this winter up here in Massachusetts ! THANKYOU for taking time to do these type of video's ! Really looks like Boss rushed development on there product !

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome, thanks for the great comments and for watching !

  • @beargibson3100
    @beargibson3100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That Boss plow is probably the southern version. Only meant for an inch or so, lol.

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Good enough for the girls I go out with" AvE

  • @rodneystewart8958
    @rodneystewart8958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Boss lost a future customer with this going to order a sno power

    • @vinwiki6482
      @vinwiki6482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Both of us glad I watched this

  • @kctyphoon
    @kctyphoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta say it - i dont plow (i have done snow removal and melting with loaders) - but there is only a few people on TH-cam that would be willing to put out a video like this . Thank you for putting your viewers ahead of your corporate connections.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really appreciate it, thank you !

  • @kenirving5268
    @kenirving5268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos highlight the good and bad of products. Very useful for all interested parties. Thanks DM

  • @HawkGT1988
    @HawkGT1988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Not enough development, hurry up and get it to market !

    • @nocoolname32
      @nocoolname32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same as the EXT

    • @kutzbill
      @kutzbill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And make sure it as cheap as we can make it.

    • @fknbastages
      @fknbastages 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As cheap as possible is good for big business. Small companies go over the limit until they grow.
      Overhead can kill you in a harsh market.

    • @heyyou5189
      @heyyou5189 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you blame development or finance. Often engineers are not given what they need to fully develop a product.

  • @3mjay577
    @3mjay577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He’s an owner of a boss. And he’s here to sheer his experiences

    • @elkvis
      @elkvis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't you mean "shear" as in shear pins? LOL

    • @ysesq
      @ysesq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He got owned by a boss. And he’s here to shear his experiences.

  • @Jerbear-rk2ik
    @Jerbear-rk2ik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am glad you shared this.... I'm new to snow plowing 1st season. Currently running Boss 7'6" with Boss Extension Wings. I do only residential. Found I needed to add the Boss back drag edge for better back dragging, 90% of my driveways are back drag jobs and I started looking into pull plows. Obviously started at Boss because my dealer is a block from my house but also got in contact with Sno Power. Looking at build quality Sno Power wins hands down... just look at the attachment points. I was leaning towards Sno Power before this video and now I'm Running to Sno Power. Thank you again .

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you watching and thanks for the comments !

  • @TheHiddenAgendaMedia
    @TheHiddenAgendaMedia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was looking into this brand on TH-cam for views because my family is about to by several for all of our properties but now that I've seen this I'm so glad that I did look it up, thanks for the honest review and catching all the faults on video for proof as you know there can be some bias on TH-cam so having the things occur on video makes it irrefutable especially for those of us looking to buy, we used to have some cheapy plows at work comprable to something from harbor freight and those things never failed and they still work but need more and bigger.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy that the video helped you out, thanks for watching !

  • @ChuckBeefOG
    @ChuckBeefOG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Boss needs to put a relief valve in there so the wing just opens up when it is overloaded, rather than snapping shear pins. My big loader plow has one, it will just fold the wing in if the snow it too hard.

    • @FrozenGamerMan
      @FrozenGamerMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      boss 180z does. it costs more and can plow in two directions.

  • @VileMisanthropy
    @VileMisanthropy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I know the origional designer of boss Ken, I work on his diesel pick up as one of my customers... unfortunately he sold the business in a divorce. I bet he would have made this right.

  • @MichaelKallelisOn2Wheels
    @MichaelKallelisOn2Wheels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great guy to share his experience with everyone. I hope Boss makes good for him.

  • @GarbageDanks
    @GarbageDanks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Minnesotan here. I've never even seen this style of a rear wing plow. Must be a testament of how bad they are because we get a ton of snow. I run a 9 foot DXT and have had zero issues besides the occasional wing spring failure and the obvious rust development.

  • @oby-1607
    @oby-1607 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Stan, you are the only one showing honest reviews of these tools. Thank you for giving us the public the information we crave.
    Anyway, what tires are you running?

  • @thepatriotsrock2
    @thepatriotsrock2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I could bolt a Home Depot door on the back of my truck & do a better job

  • @billlawsonjr583
    @billlawsonjr583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stan you should buy this man a rear plow. So cool he drove so far for you. Love the videos. Keep up the good work. God bless

  • @Josh_2019
    @Josh_2019 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of your best videos yet. Thank you for that.

  • @alltheboost5363
    @alltheboost5363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They shouldn't even have shear pins. they should have the plow engineered to the point where there's an internal bypass in the hydraulic cylinder. the product is poorly engineered.

    • @trulysurprised-bk7cy
      @trulysurprised-bk7cy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A cushioning valve like I had on my farm tractor mounted plow. Otherwise it would grenade out the bottom of the angle cylinders

  • @nocoolname32
    @nocoolname32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    not apples to apples, but im a 100% rookie, first year ever plowing and went out on my own. trial by fire, learning every lesson the hard way. i bought a first year of production western wideout XL and have tested EVERY built in safety feature on that plow and in one of the WORST winters the midwest has seen in a decade on 8 apt parking lots and it has not failed me one in a single way. beyond happy with my purchase. and the cutting edge is holding up just fine ;)

    • @theangryitalian7922
      @theangryitalian7922 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nocoolname32 awesome story

    • @schnutsy
      @schnutsy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We've had great luck with our xl also. Moves a lot of snow.

    • @fknbastages
      @fknbastages 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Western would be my first and only choice for a plow. ;-)

    • @truckguy6.7
      @truckguy6.7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Western Wide out is the only way of going

    • @alnieuwsma9023
      @alnieuwsma9023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Almost 20 years ago I bought a 15 year old Western Plow, It has been totally dependable, and I still use it. So 5 years ago I bought a Western Contractor Grade V Plow and it has been Flawless, and it can move a lot of snow. Does anyone know if western is offering a good back plow like the Snow Pro?

  • @dvandock
    @dvandock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. I was looking at getting a boss drag pro for next season. Now I’ll be looking a little more.

  • @trav4024
    @trav4024 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn....thanks Stanley for the videos man ! I actually almost purchased one this year but wasn't sure yet. Thanks!

  • @JimVincitore
    @JimVincitore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I bought a Ford Taurus from the showroom in 1995, they were only out a few weeks. They came out in 1996. I had about 100 repairs on that thing the first year. After Ford got the bugs worked out, it lasted 25 years same engine 350,000 miles. Moral of the story, never buy first year products!

    • @bahnrokt
      @bahnrokt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jim Vincitore it shouldn’t be that way. If a company is releasing a product and taking money, i shouldn’t be a beta tester!

    • @kennyg1953
      @kennyg1953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bahnrokt There's always gonna be things that they don't account for in testing that will cause some extra wear and tear, once those are documented and a fix is applied you'll get a much more reliable machine. Testing is important but it's also why some cars have been being made for years. Because they're reliable and they're only getting even more reliable, with the occasional few bad changes here and there.

    • @Gwalker0220
      @Gwalker0220 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never but a Ford is the moral

  • @wildfire53575
    @wildfire53575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Good video Stanley! This is why i stopped using any of the new plows lack of QUALITY. Manufactures have stripped the products they sell so bad. They have stopped the R/D process to save money and use the customer for free to fix the problems with the product.One question tho WHY DID BOSS RELEASE THIS PLOW WITH KNOWN ISSUES????? just bad corporate practice.........

    • @keegancb84
      @keegancb84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blake, you're extremely dull. Hop back on your Craftsman already

    • @wildfire53575
      @wildfire53575 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      nether one of your comments have anything to do with my statement above. so keep them to your self

    • @wc4444
      @wc4444 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blaken3824 This is what happens when financialization takes over from true production - the illusion of "progress" with the reality of failure. The capitalists laugh all the way to the bank while the working people hold the bag.

  • @DR-ge7lo
    @DR-ge7lo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video. Good to know how vast the quality difference is.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome, thanks for watching !

  • @tommiij
    @tommiij 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Stan, right before I was about to get a Boss Drag Pro. I guess I gotta go all the way to Michigan to get the Sno-Power later. Thanks!

  • @wheelstandr
    @wheelstandr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mikes company is number 1 at number 2. I’m shocked! He plows my next door neighbor and pumps my septic. What a small world!

  • @donfrance3
    @donfrance3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Choose Western - easy service and reliability - down time is minimal. The blue hydraulic fluid for low temperature seems to help the reaction time especially compared to red fluid with some water that seeps in.

    • @derekchauvinisahero2010
      @derekchauvinisahero2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fisher plows are the best on the market... period

    • @agentcarder
      @agentcarder ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekchauvinisahero2010 isn’t fisher owned by western?

  • @justinlawrence8483
    @justinlawrence8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how many familiar locations i recognize in MN that i drive by all the time. Didn't even know you guys were the ones plowing it haha

  • @bradleyyahr5586
    @bradleyyahr5586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for posting this video I was thinking about getting a drag pro next season.

  • @briankennedy1313
    @briankennedy1313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hahahaha a plow that can’t come in contact with salt. Um....ok.

    • @vinwiki6482
      @vinwiki6482 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crazy ain't it

    • @ysesq
      @ysesq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      fresh snow only !!

  • @kdubbzfour206
    @kdubbzfour206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wouldn’t waste my money on that pos.. just good old front plow for me ty very much👍

    • @pierobernini5964
      @pierobernini5964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@douganderson7002 but what I've you wanted a salter on the back? Having the back plow takes that option away. Personally I'd rather have a salter. If you were all commercial I could see a use for it.

    • @snolver
      @snolver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really why the hell do you need that thing, Ive plowed for 40 years and never needed that contraption

    • @kdubbzfour206
      @kdubbzfour206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Piero Bernini 100% agree. I’d rather have a spreader myself also

    • @morgansmith3650
      @morgansmith3650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kdubbzfour206 Right! Flat bed With a 3-4 yard capacity salt spreader. Leave the plowing to a plow truck.

    • @phuqurfeeling
      @phuqurfeeling 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snolver don't be afraid of progress

  • @williamjanik7743
    @williamjanik7743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truly sad that Boss brought this product to market. I've used a Boss 8.2 V for the last 25yrs...same plow using it off and on commercially. I have to say, my Boss never truly let me down. Minor breakdowns. None if which preventing me from finishing my route. The design of the front plows is second to none. Can't believe that back plow says Boss on it.

    • @nicholasbrown7068
      @nicholasbrown7068 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's what happens when larger companies take over smaller companies. I have two 11 year old 8'2 V's, one that has Boss wings on it for years. Honestly the only issue between the two was a pump motor that I new was getting tired before failure. Other than that they have been very dependable.

  • @crewslawncare8361
    @crewslawncare8361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Stan really saved my butt here was looking at these for winter 2019 after half way thru NO freaking way will drive across michigan to get the right drag plow for us

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to be of help, thanks for watching !

  • @andrewcanrinus5186
    @andrewcanrinus5186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    seeing as time is money, i feel like he might as well just use his front blade, that thing looks useless!

  • @calfeggs
    @calfeggs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The arm where the cylinder is mounted to the wing should be longer with a longer stroke hydraulic so there is less stress on that joint, with bushings to keep the joints from wallering out. Then there should be an adjustable high pressure release valve to the low pressure side of the hydraulics that is set to activate before the sheer pin breaks.

    • @Paulman50
      @Paulman50 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was reading the coments wondering if someone else would come up with this also. Half the new machinary I buy , l have to rebuild before using.

    • @koda7225
      @koda7225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree about the design, but the main point of a sheer bolt on the swing wing back blades it to prevent ripping the wing off should you catch something you are not ripping a wing off.
      Ebling uses sheer pins as well but they have the bushings and longer cylinder ect.

    • @wc4444
      @wc4444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Paulman50 These comments about the poor quality of products that companies previously had good reputations for making is probably due to their being taken over by investment bankers. They strip the quality of everything before they dump the companies they put in hock to buy and put the "profit" in their pockets.

  • @seanthompson5599
    @seanthompson5599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your video.. It helped me with my decision, I bought a Short Iron, and I absolutely love it!!!

  • @jerrybrandt9377
    @jerrybrandt9377 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your new ram is boss!!! Love that truck

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Jerry !

  • @guntherflume7129
    @guntherflume7129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seeing your feet under that plow reminds me of a time a plow came down on a friends feet broke both feet no work 2 weeks

  • @matty2helpfull
    @matty2helpfull 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thats a lot of issues on the boss wow

  • @MR-rb5fz
    @MR-rb5fz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you @Stanleydirtmonkey I had wrote on a previous post of yours reviewing snowpower... I asked if you or anyone you knew reviewed this boss drag pro. I did purchase drag pro because it was only pull plow available locally and being that it was a boss I had trust in the name. Unfortunately I've encountered these exact issues listed in this video... I wish I waited but it didnt seem feasible to by from an out of state fabricator and now I regret my decision. I wish you had this video before I purchased but chalk it up to most expensive learning lesson I've had in plowing. If you have any updated suggestions on what option I may pursue with boss I'm all ears... thanks for all the informative videos!

  • @jerrybrandt9377
    @jerrybrandt9377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are snow plow experts up there stan!!

  • @tomjackson8561
    @tomjackson8561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Clearly this boss plow is garbage. Thanks for the video love you’re work!

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Tom !

  • @web1187
    @web1187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can't tell me they didn't come across any of these problems while they tested their product for them to sell these is just robbery... !

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like they forgot to test all together

  • @thedocisin3204
    @thedocisin3204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 15 year old Boss plow has operated flawlessly. Changed out cracked hoses before they blew, cutting edge a couple times. It seems Boss engineering department dropped the ball on the Back Drag Pro.

  • @Nick-gi6ym
    @Nick-gi6ym 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good educational video! Boss failed big time on the pull plow electrical system also on the frame system it’s not a safe piece of equipment that being said boss should reimburse him for everything plus the 89 pins. You should be sent to a warm weather vacation after snow season paid by boss for showing the quality of their equipment. But I really think boss knows without your video. Thanks Again

  • @andrewlyon6834
    @andrewlyon6834 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think it’s safe to say he’ll have a sno power next year

  • @exmark5248
    @exmark5248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Someone should forward this video to Boss !

  • @davinwilkinson1065
    @davinwilkinson1065 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to know thank you Stan what you are doing is the greatest help

  • @ThePlowGuys
    @ThePlowGuys 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buyer be WARNED! Great video as always.

  • @Javelinjoe73
    @Javelinjoe73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, funny thing, I’ve never seen a pull plow up here in Maine.

  • @otahu26
    @otahu26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    AND THATS exactly why I never bought a BOSS plow!! I'll stick with my old Fisher.

    • @jamescoli3209
      @jamescoli3209 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jihadi Justine Turdeau Fishers V plows way better

  • @jeffcanyafixiy
    @jeffcanyafixiy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chinesium! Damn shame, you guys work hard to get those jobs done. Around the Mid-Atlantic area they work on very thin margins. No time for breakdowns. 👍👍

  • @dimitritiendrebeogo5640
    @dimitritiendrebeogo5640 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can relate. I had few issues with Boss plow this season and decided to try different plows next winter. They never answered any of calls or emails regarding the issues.

  • @meadowviewlawncarellc8079
    @meadowviewlawncarellc8079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Boss obviously didn’t do any good testing on that before selling it. I would demand my money back directly from boss. Total waste of precious time during a storm. Imagine taking care of your stuff or for that have brand new stuff and go out plowing wondering if it’s gonna work or not. Totally unacceptable. As a bonus you have the chance of finding one of your broken shear bolts when it goes through your truck tire. They should honestly remove it from the market until they figure out how to make a decent pull plow.

    • @imperialservices9892
      @imperialservices9892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Meadow View Lawn Care LLC exactly after he said the boss tech said we had a few break at the testing grounds and other customers having the same issue

  • @fredkaminski6138
    @fredkaminski6138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The wings only grab the amount of snow you put in it!

  • @Smoke3488
    @Smoke3488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a boss drap plow and a boss front plow last fall. I have had no issues with it except when u put to much pressure on the drag plow when the wings are in the back will lift a half cm above the ground. We run it in -30 and it works just fine. He might have low hydrolic fluid and that makes it slow to lift up. My plow wings do move but not even close to as much as his did.

  • @daveaardal4873
    @daveaardal4873 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video! Looks like BOSS needs redesign and beef up that unit. It’s looking like I’m going with the Sno power

  • @KevinJohnson-fx6wq
    @KevinJohnson-fx6wq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's gotta suck. Nothing more frustrating. Would have been nice to see the design of your plow to really know what to look for when choosing a plow. Thanks for sharing.

    • @fknbastages
      @fknbastages 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other videos address this issue. ;-)

  • @brianwebber7168
    @brianwebber7168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just my opinion, but it looks like Boss ripped off Ebling's design and through some cross bracing in for fun.

  • @coadybarnum
    @coadybarnum 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing mike
    Much appreciated

  • @michaelatoz580
    @michaelatoz580 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an RT 1 first generation Boss V plow on my truck and love it but it has some of the same issues. When I plow a big parking lot for hours at a time it wont lift off the ground. But the reason I wont upgrade is i like all my plow pump and wires under the hood out of the salt and elements. Plus it simple rocker switch no thinking to operate it. Love it even if it is 25 years old.

  • @roadglide1142
    @roadglide1142 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What I find amazing is they will rush to put a product on the market which they know will fail & take your money 💰 with a smile & a nod! I’d rather spend $6K on beautiful women & loose money 💴 with a huge smile !

    • @shaymoose17
      @shaymoose17 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trial and error man. Nothing in this world is 100%. He bought the back plow to make more money and get done sooner so he can spend more on women and do it longer :P

  • @richardm1631
    @richardm1631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stanley you should go to Boss plow company and give them some ideas how to improve on their equipment

    • @fknbastages
      @fknbastages 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They'll be watching this video.

    • @keegancb84
      @keegancb84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who would invite Stanley to their grounds after posting a video with this title??

  • @thomassoltis5862
    @thomassoltis5862 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video brother keep up the awesome work god bless you and your family

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You too Thomas, thank you

  • @rydplrs71
    @rydplrs71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in a snow zone and I have never seen one on these in use or even being transported between jobs.
    Boss is made nearby too.

  • @electrohacker
    @electrohacker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    if the board is conformal coated aka "gel coated" salt shouldnt affect it.

    • @d_s979
      @d_s979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the board but the connector is the problem.

    • @electrohacker
      @electrohacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d_s979 the the do electric grease he said he was using in the video would be enough

  • @Truth_Spoken
    @Truth_Spoken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow I’d be pissed too.

  • @2Ab4bluline
    @2Ab4bluline ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that Stan does a lot of reviews and really uses many different plows, but hands down I have never used anything that's close to how well the Arctic snow and ice products work... And I am hard on equipment cuz I'm used to farm work.

  • @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
    @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW that is an excellent video you guys did on those snow plows. I had no idea that it can does it. I think the BOSS solution is the cylinder they use it not the correct size and location on the back plow. Show us some close ups on how the cylinder is positioned. I bet the Cylinder is to small for the load to hold. And as a result it flexes and causes the sheer of the bolt/pin.

  • @carl3766
    @carl3766 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wanted to get a boss drag pro cause I like my boss front plow....... but now

  • @TorontoFishing
    @TorontoFishing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Replacing 5 bolts a night when it's -20 😤🤯

  • @mxzeatr
    @mxzeatr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! As an avid supporter of Eblings back plows I really liked this video, my boss dealer has mentioned these a couple times, and while both are made in my home state, ebling is still a small locally owned company. There are a couple things the snow power does better then the ebling, in my mind, I'd like to see a head to head comparison of those brands some day if you have one locally. I'd gladly offer mine up, but I'm in Northern MI.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you lad you liked the video !

  • @grumpy1311
    @grumpy1311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GREAT comparison!!
    This is the kind of need to know information that makes or breaks a purchase.
    That's terrible... bad bad bad... no good at all.
    On a bright note, it makes the Short Iron and Snow Power look like a CHAMP!

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate that! Thanks and happy you liked it !

    • @SegoMan
      @SegoMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your gonna push big snow buy a big truck (2-1/2), blade or a bladed loader..

  • @BLMCFR
    @BLMCFR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched the video to see the issues and to possibly give some suggestions on how to make some adjustments to get it to work. It is a good basic design but bad engineering and/or material quality is too low.
    I do understand the BOSS principles for engineering to keep weight down, but in key stress points the metal is too low of a work load value, and the cylinder mounting hole materials are too low of quality. Once the holes become elongated, the sheer pins will always fail at a lower load value than required, for a number of reasons.
    If BOSS wants to fix the problems, they can contact me and I will give suggestions for how to solve the problems. Engineers have argued with me thousands of times over the decades and failed to resolve problems in a wide variety of machinery, but once they swallowed their pride and listened to my advice, they were able to solve the problems.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comments Jeffrey and thanks for viewing !

    • @ysesq
      @ysesq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you fix it AND keep BOM costs the same ? because anyone can fix anything by throwing money into it.

  • @GardenViewLawncare
    @GardenViewLawncare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hate to be boss now

  • @L2FlyMN
    @L2FlyMN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back to the engineering drawing board for the boss for sure! What a failure!

  • @upnorthbeats6449
    @upnorthbeats6449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Enjoyed watching it.

  • @brentglenn9352
    @brentglenn9352 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    a service bulletin came out February 8th to fix the issue he is having with it lifting slow. the issue was were the module was mounted was causing it to take on moisture. if he registered his plow like he was supposed to he would have received an email from boss telling him to tale it to his dealer so it could be fixed under warranty. that being said i do agree that there needs to be something different done with the wings....maybe a relief valve instead of shear bolts?

    • @Sicktrickintuner
      @Sicktrickintuner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      brent glenn
      The cylinders shouldn’t be mounted that they are at full extend, easy way to bend a rod.
      Also the plow wing pivots are at the wrong side for plowing, should be right behind the wing, not off to the side, id bet it will rip out of that square tube

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's has warranty work done, at an authorized service center. They did the fix and it didn't fix the issue. It's not like it's never been in for warranty service.

    • @brentglenn9352
      @brentglenn9352 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xenonram then get a new module. Boss will warranty it! i am not just spouting off....i am a boss master distributor that sells 100s of plow a year.

    • @fknbastages
      @fknbastages 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He said in the video that they fixed the controller issue by turning it sideways.
      It obviously didn't work since he still has the issue.

  • @nicholask8573
    @nicholask8573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Boss used all these contractors as test subjects. Ridiculous! Especially, when the drag pro is around 6k. They knowingly put a faulty product on the market.

    • @platinumlawnservice
      @platinumlawnservice 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For sure. Boss is to plows like ford is to trucks. Use the market as test dummies.

    • @nicholask8573
      @nicholask8573 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@platinumlawnservice Yes sir, I'm a Chevy guy. I'll probably go Fisher front plow, still might go boss lol.

    • @BP-bb4vg
      @BP-bb4vg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@platinumlawnservice Good call. Ever heard anything good about EcoBoost engines lol?

    • @platinumlawnservice
      @platinumlawnservice 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BP-bb4vg I hear they have gobs of power due to the twin turbos but I personally like the sound of a healthy V8. Could always turbo one of those lol. The ford 5.0 coyote engine seems to get good reviews from owners. I have heard of ecoboost direct injection issues carboning up valves and the intercooler icing up in moist and cold enviroments causing LIMP mode.

  • @augustreil
    @augustreil 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and review, just feel really bad for that gentleman :(

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you august

  • @onfire0201
    @onfire0201 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hot dang! First location that I know where you are at. I cleaned the carpets at the restaurant that was at the end of the strip mall, back when it was still open that is.