BMW M4 Review - Does It Need You? - TestDrive | Everyday Driver

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  • The BMW M4 is astounding to drive, and a great place to spend time. The guys wonder if the car actually needs you to be involved, or is it too capable? While driving one of the more stylistically controversial BMWs, they try not to crack too many beaver teef jokes while debating the dynamics vs. the appearance.
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  • @senseicorey9979
    @senseicorey9979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's amazing to me that BMW never abandoned the "futuristic pontiac" look. Was Pontiac that far ahead of their time that BMW had to expand on it for thr next 3 decades ?

    • @clubracer6
      @clubracer6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol! Spot on!

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    7:49 From the front 3/4 view, the rear haunches look shockingly like a mustang. I can't unsee it.

    • @future62
      @future62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8 series too

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how both Todd and Paul can talk about the exact same thing, but Paul is speaking with reverence and Todd is speaking with ridicule and somehow it harmonizes together.

  • @Chalybis
    @Chalybis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 mo owning the M3 manual and besides loving the driving experience to pieces...I daily drive mine and I kid you not, not more than one day passes between people complimenting the car...6 mo straight. and frankly, the front end, when you see it bearing down on you in your rear view, is hella intimidating....this machine is a beast...and with the mods catching up it's getting to be a great car community to be in. Also, M cars are selling better than ever in M history.

  • @almuliman
    @almuliman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The zoom starting at 1:15 😂

  • @chrisluecke3341
    @chrisluecke3341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review guys! I also love that you put the podcast on the screen when showing the interior. But when you review these BMWs, I always expect you to put up episode 434 😂

    • @Leah006
      @Leah006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha expexting episode 420 here 🔥 🍄 🔥 🌳

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the show guys ...

    • @Leah006
      @Leah006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul is the man

  • @chrisej5987
    @chrisej5987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul, the word you were looking for was "hoonery" 😂

  • @7027A
    @7027A 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The grille takes inspiration from the 1958 Edsel.

    • @85corolla
      @85corolla 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, the grille takes inspiration from the witch named Winifred in the movie Hocus Pocus.

  • @stephensmith2027
    @stephensmith2027 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 months on and I'm actually enjoying the beaver teef!

  • @bcvijasiu
    @bcvijasiu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TestDrive, what do you like better, this M4 (M3) or the IS500 and for what reasons?
    When it comes between Ms I like the M3 over M4, but I cannot make up my mind between M3 and IS500.
    I love the Lexus reliability and the V8, but I like the usability (size) of the new M3 and the manual transmission option (my preference), but I am worried about its reliability.

    • @timw2083
      @timw2083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My opinion, IS500 if you're looking for daily driver with a lot of traffic. M3 if you want a track car and don't drive in a lot of traffic.
      I plan to get the IS500 for the n/a V8 and a reliable, daily driver. Both are excellent choices

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "BMW" "how can I help you?" "Could you try to be less ugly?"

    • @apt62
      @apt62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it looks beautiful

    • @thirdpedalnirvana
      @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@apt62 I actually do think it looks beautiful except the front. I was just referencing a moment in the video.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THATS THE MARKETING ANGLE! Todd cracked it!
    The BMW M4. How much does ugly bother you?
    The BMW M4. Drives so well you'll forget what it looks like!
    The BMW M4. If we have the audacity to charge $70k for something this ugly, it must drive great!
    The BMW M4. We got tired of M cars being bought by people who just want to show off how cool they are, so we're punishing those people by making them look like fools.

  • @flox4007
    @flox4007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which colour ?

  • @dannyferguson9415
    @dannyferguson9415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw a dark color M4 in person and it did not look bad.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul am I crazy? or is having the surface that the infotainment screen is on start outside the dash and then, as you go left, fold under the dash, a really bad move from a design standpoint? It really bothers me. Either your infotainment is tacked on above the dash, or it's tucked under the dash with the gauge cluster. This looks like they tried to do both at once, like sporting swimming trunks with a ski jacket. It makes it look like the infotainment screen is an extension of the gauge cluster, and the gauge cluster itself is sticking out of the dash like it wasn't fitted properly.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok... the minor detail of the three M color threads in the seatbelt is divine, similar to the 991 GTS interior package.

  • @lezzbmm
    @lezzbmm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so glad to c the gxx m cars doing well, driving better than the fxx cars,,
    looking forward to seeing the normal gxx cars
    rly think they’ve gotten over their post-2010 funk w the g cars
    there’s actually a direction and palette behind the styling all around (instead of “bangle cars but uglier and vascular and cheaper feeling”)

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As an engineer, I can confirm, we don't care where on the front of the car the cooling air comes from. Using "Cooling" as a justification for the beaver teef is absurd. Look at the 1994 ford taurus! look at the 1st generaton RX-7! you can design a car to look like it has no holes, and still put an internal combustion engine in it. Air hits the car all over the place, you can get it from almost anywhere.

    • @FATmenDRIVEtrucks
      @FATmenDRIVEtrucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd rather it come underneath the car v mount

  • @10ProSoccer
    @10ProSoccer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can build one of these for around 80k and at that price point its a lot more tempting to get one.

    • @Mac-xh8zl
      @Mac-xh8zl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      An M2 CS is about the same price. So no the M4 is not tempting.

  • @bri1042
    @bri1042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can get the entire driving experience for 25k less than your constant babbling about the 100k...your tester has a lot of purely cosmetic options. Even the ceramic brakes are essentially a cosmetic option off the track. At 75 to 80k, accounting for inflation, the M4 has held steady with the older models all the way back to the E46. There's nothing wrong with talking about how expensive it CAN be, but not mentioning once that a quarter of the price was unnecessary options wasn't great journalism. And you're six months too late to go on and on about the grill. I've lived with that front end for since March and, while I still don't love it, most of the general public who have seen it like it more than I do. At least it looks more interesting than the feature-less fish-nose on the Model 3 and Model Y.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HOONIGANISM lol Thank you, Todd. I was shouting it at Paul but he couldn't hear me

  • @cedrick305
    @cedrick305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man what were they thinking because months after they showed the world this monstrosity, the front still hasn’t gotten any better.

  • @misterlob3604
    @misterlob3604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always have loved the first gen Panamera styling, I know why people don't love it but I think it's wonderfully shooting-break-esque. How dare you compare the Beaver Teef to the Panamera styling!!
    Just kidding 😉

  • @MandusahRamirez
    @MandusahRamirez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toyota should’ve built The Supra on The 4-Series Platform👌🏽… TBH it really should’ve been a Stripped Toyota version of The Lexus LC500 but I Digress.. lol

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BMW used to be the sound of ITB inline sixes, now they are the sound of boost rushing through an air-water intercooler.

  • @user-my4xu4gf1z
    @user-my4xu4gf1z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The grille looks really good. The old bmw look dated now I would only consider a new one.

  • @scottnewellguitar
    @scottnewellguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beaver teefs aside, the backend looks like the Supra!

  • @HerrPoopschitz
    @HerrPoopschitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “How much does ugly bother me?” The question of desperate men everywhere.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I unreasonable for wanting new cars to drive better than the old cars they replace? It seems like the discussion nowadays is never how much better the new car is than the predecessor, it's "how much of the predecessor did it retain". Sure they are "better" on paper, but driver involvement is unilaterally being snuffed.

  • @edmundhayes1840
    @edmundhayes1840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol. BMW dealer is a dentist. Great one, Paul

  • @tsubakichan
    @tsubakichan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in the market for a new car and thought about buying my first BMW. Saw how fugly the 3/4-series has become, and noped my way out. (Bought a '21 MX-5 ND2)

  • @Leah006
    @Leah006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best or nothing
    M power
    Bmw

  • @letsgobrandon416
    @letsgobrandon416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree, there is one at a local business park I drive by. Every dang time it gets me, so gorgeous from the rear, and the as I come past and see the front - UGH

  • @sanxi34
    @sanxi34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a bimmer anymore... It's a Biffer

  • @cayman9873
    @cayman9873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last m4 was very numb in turns. Actually everywhere

    • @thirdpedalnirvana
      @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Last M4 lost a Motortrend comparison to the Camaro SS, which was 60% the cost.

  • @lezzbmm
    @lezzbmm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    s58 gonna go down in history best gas ice for 3k-7k lbs cars

  • @lezzbmm
    @lezzbmm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the pig nose is cute
    and also looks like a 60s f1/f2 car but like inflated to fill a car-sized box

  • @venus263
    @venus263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤣🤣🤣
    Man.....
    This is ugly.
    I just can't stop laughing.
    N how much is it? 🤦
    Thanks for telling the truth guys.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear BMW (and every other car manufacturer). How about instead of turning Drifting into a video game, you build cars without those computers and screens and with naturally aspirated engines and torsen rear differentials so they can be lighter... because light weight is what makes drifting a joy.

    • @thirdpedalnirvana
      @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok props to BMW... 3700lbs isn't terrible, the E92 was about that, right?

  • @mrkcaldwe5
    @mrkcaldwe5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    100k!? 🥺

  • @fcc1311
    @fcc1311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soooo what would you guys get????

  • @andycalifornia426
    @andycalifornia426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The front-end is just SUV. It's SUV-sized. That's what I'd expect to see on a much taller car, that is an SUV.

  • @andycalifornia426
    @andycalifornia426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate that new BMW grilles don't have a chrome rim. It used to give it a classy look. Without the chrome rim on the grille, it just looks like a piece of plastic. Cheap.

  • @anonanon8227
    @anonanon8227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    iT ROCKS. Mass psychosis. 100k? What are you going to find?

  • @anaswarjayakumar852
    @anaswarjayakumar852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has the design intern who designed Beaverteeff been fired yet?

  • @js002003
    @js002003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yah I feel the jokes about the front are so 2020. Most people coming around to the front, especially in dark paint color and/or in person.

    • @KTH96
      @KTH96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your car looks better in darker colors it's probably because it's ugly

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Objectively it is a good car if you don't have eyes. It is one of the ugliest designs of all time. I disagree with Paul, the whole exterior design is ugly and random. Hard to splurge on a car this bad looking.

  • @future62
    @future62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul is such a shameless German fanboy but I'll allow it

  • @theCycleReport
    @theCycleReport 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every new BMW car I see makes me hate their cars even more than I did before.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's actually a beautiful car.. if you just cover the bottom half of the beaver teef.

    • @thirdpedalnirvana
      @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The M4 looks like an 80's guy who had plastic surgery to have his nostrils enlarged because he was tired of how slowly he's capable of snorting cocaine.

    • @thirdpedalnirvana
      @thirdpedalnirvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The more I look at it, it is really really good looking for everything except the grille. I love the scallops on the hood above the grille, I love the headlight shape, its a sexy car with a giant pimple on the middle of it's nose. It's a gorgeous supermodel with only 3 teeth.

  • @borinvlogs
    @borinvlogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The whole video i am just appreciating how beautiful these roads are. Gives me another reason to ditch the fossil cars to save the trees...

  • @Foregrlz
    @Foregrlz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spend less , get more......
    Such as WHAT??

  • @FATmenDRIVEtrucks
    @FATmenDRIVEtrucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BMW FAN BOYS STILL WILL BUY IT

  • @andreemilsen369
    @andreemilsen369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually like the front 🙊
    Especially in a darker colour, but I usually prefer darker colours on cars anyway...

  • @billtaylor8655
    @billtaylor8655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the front end with the big grill. I don’t like the new M2 as it doesn’t have the new grill. I’m narrowing down my choices and this one is in the mix.

  • @rleebond
    @rleebond 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good god, get over the grille. Faux outrage because people don’t like change… has anyone seen the enormous grilles on Audi?!

  • @FosterMcTeague
    @FosterMcTeague 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a derogatory term that objectifies women that can be adapted and I think better suited for this car. Butterteef.

  • @calikid7116
    @calikid7116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya that is not a good looking front end but gusto to BMW to say fuck it and still toss it on. And you all are still gonna buy it. Capitalism working perfectly.

  • @77kenneth
    @77kenneth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arguably one of the best cars to drive but at the same time one of the worst front end looking cars

  • @cayman9873
    @cayman9873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dont take the front car cover off... ever

  • @cayman9873
    @cayman9873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The front end should come with a bottle of bourbon so you cant see it well

  • @gcswift2
    @gcswift2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's the thing... I don't hate it. It's new and unfamiliar, but it doesn't deserve the abuse it gets. I suspect that next year no one will care. I hope BMW holds firm, because the "Bangle Flames" have aged beautifully.

    • @Johnnygga
      @Johnnygga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. I’ve told everyone that as much as (for example) Mercedes Benz is legendary and an old Titan-I feel like BMW is actually the one that lowkey sets trends. It’s also the benchmark when people compare cars or race them.
      I hated it at first but now I see what they’re going for. It’s literally a German heat seeking missile lol. They did a leap jump in terms of aggressiveness. Other makers look too soft in comparison if you see an M4 parked next to something else.
      It’s so weird but I’ve come to love it.

  • @TheMasterNinjaRyu
    @TheMasterNinjaRyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The design is fine. Looks good. It’s progressive. You guys are just set in your old ways. Move on from the same old same old please. Design is subjective.

    • @TestDriveVideos
      @TestDriveVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, design is personal… but keep in mind that a huge percentage of people don’t like this grill. Continuing to mention it increases the chances of a design refinement. Also - keep in mind that Paul is a car designer by training and background. Thanks for watching!

  • @ErwinSchrodinger64
    @ErwinSchrodinger64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just can't believe how much I hated this design. Not anymore.

  • @valesti2645
    @valesti2645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You call this review? You two spend way too much time talking about the looks. We can see the car. We know what it looks like. Not everyone can simply test drive one, however. And that's what why we turn to reviewers like you. I learned absolutely nothing watching this. I can read a spec sheet. But how does it compare to other cars in the same price segment (you briefly mention the subject, but don't give any examples)? How does the base version compare (from a driving dynamics point of view) to the competition (you mentioned the ZF8 would be a better fit, but don't have it in this review)?

    • @TestDriveVideos
      @TestDriveVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have a comparison TV episode that was part of our last TV season. It’s coming to Amazon Prime soon and our other TH-cam channel as well. Thanks for your interest.

    • @wojtekp3212
      @wojtekp3212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. They mention they can have better cheaper cars but don’t say which one?! They like it but they don’t love it, lol. You don’t have to live everything to enjoy it.

  • @valentinorossi7771
    @valentinorossi7771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't stand the front look. HIDEOUS! Buy the previous model instead. The front looks uglier than the Supra. Coughing up 100 grands for this hideous beast?

  • @gigi9467
    @gigi9467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    UGLY, HEAVY, OVER PRICE.