Why Marvel Makes Better Movies Than DC
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Marvel made their unknown characters ICONIC
DC made their ICONIC characters shit themselves
Bhavik Parekh I completely agree
Yeah
Exactly
That's only in the live action shows. In the comics and animated shows they're awesome.
@@explosivenebraska1696 to be fair i'm pretty sure that the live action stuff is what they are comparing
In short: DC wanted to catchup with Infinity War without preceeding decade of character development.
Totally agree.
Precisely what I've thought.
Exactly. One of the dumbest decisions in the history of entertainment
If they took it slow they could've been sucessful
That's why they will never go beyond animated films. Though their animated films are godlike compared to marvel animated films
DC is rushing. They wanna have that big infinity war or endgame moment without any build up, which just doesn't make sense.
I mean they been doing it before marvel and it looks like marvel catched up and done it well. 👍👏
RECOVERY🔥🔥💯💯
Aswe now they wanna rush and bring darkseid when we didnt see thanos till 5 yrs
@@lucyelvis5489 well atleast better than wheadon's sh*t movie but i don't darkseid is coming fast
Exactly...
So in short, MCU is loved because the movies feels like a real series where we can watch the characters grew and develop, while in DCEU the movies don't really feel like a series because the character's growth and development are all over the place and messy because the characters serves the plot
Lol fr I didn’t even know a dceu existed I thought they were all individual movies
Bruh what r u talking about the dceu story just started its like saying the marvel universe is bad when the first avengers just came out
@@r_brucewayne3888 how did dceu just start? both of them started and have been here for a long time . Avengers did well lol
@@rajvi2082 avengers did well for its time and im not saying dceu makes great movies im just saying give them some time to pull all the movies they made together
@@r_brucewayne3888 we've given them a LOT of time
Think Deadpool said it best, "Soo dark, you must be from the DC universe"
And DC's "darkness" just beat his ass in R rated department without making any jokes about marvel in their movie
supermfg this is really the only thing that yall can be proud of in the dceu.
@@user-md9cc4hh3t that's not all.. Joker got 11 noms for Oscars, how many did MCU get?
superbman avengers endgame is the highest in the box office now. More than avatar. What did dc do? Oh wait... Shit movies. U guys only have like 2 movies to show off with, we have 23. So stfu. Marvel Always!
superbman joker is not in the dceu
When you know DC has truly failed is when black widows death has more of an impact than supermans death
@T P it's truly depressing
Natasha's death pissed me off tbh it was stupid how she died just for the soul stone. And they only acknowledged it briefly afterwards. Her death had no lasting impact even on banner, who could have gone into a mini hulk rage, but in the end it felt very unnecessary and overshadowed by the deaths of Tony and figuratively Cap. Infinity Wars deaths were much better handled.
@@bad6835 she did it because she thought she had never done anything right in her life.. in ultron, she felt as if she pushed bruce banner away, and also her time in the red room as a murderer made her feel so
@@bad6835 because there will be another movie just for her. That's marvel's ultimate tribute to the Black Widow
Lol no one really cared about superman's death because it was obvious he was going to come back.
Main villian in MCU: Thanos
Main villian in DCEU: WB
Omg 😂 😂 😂
nah it's rotten tomatoes
@@andrewwong2399 they're not the ones writing the story
@@Yashone as opposed to wb?
It's actually quite straightforward:
Marvel Studios sees their movies as more than just a cash grab
WB doesn't
And WB weren't afraid hurting its toys merchandise when making Joker film
Funny how this completely the opposite after Black Widow comes out. Coming from Marvel fans
@@Mulukan57 black widow wasn’t bad tf? They gave her a solid send off cuz SJ is done w widow
@@vikrambansal1416 I didn't say that. Review said that and a lot from Marvel fans
@@Mulukan57 I thought it was solid… I just didn’t like how it wasn’t an origin story but it was still really fun
A wise author once said: "Don't make your characters fit your story. Make your story fit your characters."
And I can totally agree with that.
That's a great quote, but can you elaborate what that means for the MCU and the DCEU?
@@vanblitz7009 I think they did great Job with "Black Widow" recently. She is - in my opinion - not the type of Character who is suited for a "traditional" hero story. She is one who holds her feelings to herself, still doing what she thinks is right. And that's what her movie is all about. Well, I think it is, anyway. ^^
In general, in my opinion it is very difficult to make several characters as different as the MCU / DCEU - Heros fit into their own storys as well as into a greater narrative (and Crossovers). All their motivations and goals need to somehow fit into it.
I can't really explain that. Maybe when you write a story, decide on the Character's motivations first...? And then think of a story that would develop out of those motivations...? Something like that?
@@marilunabeilschmidt3536 oh, ok. Anyways, I wanna know your thoughts, which is better the MCU or the DCEU?
@@vanblitz7009 In terms of movie-quality, continuity and marketing: The MCU.
The DCEU however - and this is solely my own personal opinion - has more interesting and differentiated characters. :) They have so much potential! I really hope they will use it right sometime in the future.
Anyway, what do you think? Which do you like better?
@@marilunabeilschmidt3536 I respect that. In my opinion, I would choose the MCU because it has really been a big part of my life in this couple of years, it will forever have a special place in my heart. In terms of the actual quality of their movies, they're just better at making us love the characters, they were able to make lesser known characters like the GOTG, Strange, Antman, Wanda etc. so ICONIC while the DCEU is struggling with their famous characters (No hate intended). The fact that they were able to pull this off with different directors is astounding.
I love the DCEU too, It surely has its own charm, in fact there are times where I kinda like it more than the MCU, in some aspects. But even with that, The MCU is the far better one for me.
DC movies are to dark
I mean literally the lighting is to dark i hardly can see anything
Lol it's like an edgelord trying to draw peace
OMG 😂
@@NebMunb Not funny
I like the dark themes
Suicide Squad's color palette is absolute garbage, it's like trying to watch a movie through dirty toilet water.
Another great character example is Wanda in Civil War. At the beginning, she is responsible for the Wakandans' death. Wanda was also manipulated by Ultron, so she wants to act on her own choices. So when the Accords come up, it's a battle between guilt and autonomy. Vision represents the guilt, and Clint represents autonomy, as Clint is the inspiration in a sense for Wanda to be a hero. Vision using the guilt to manipulate her pushes her to choose autonomy.
"Marvel rarely make a character make a decision when it is not consistent with the characer they have built up in prior movies" Oh boy that line didn't age well
For all the flaws of the mcu, this isn't one of them. (Except thor 4)
Yeah, we're looking at you, Mark Ruffalo.
MARVEL: 11 years of build up... now, Avengers Assemble!
DC: shutup and assemble NOW
DC shits on marvel. Let me know when marvel tops TDK
The Shadow DC can’t shit on Marvel if they continuously get shit on by RT
Shadow, please stop, dceu movies suck, except the Dark knight trilogy, kind of more, but marvel is better now, since the trilogy ended, so after art, came crap.
Actually the Avengers assembled 4 years after the series started, the Justice League 4 years after the series started.
Maddix Pelletier
The Dark Knight isn’t DCEU. It’s just DC. It isn’t from their cinematic universe.
DC has some of the most iconic characters off all time and the fact that Rocket Raccoon and Groot are household names now and not Batman or Superman is a testament to Marvel's hard work and DC's failure
Lightsaber I mean Batman and Superman are still household names though. But I agree marvel has created a movie empire from basically nothing.
Yeah, when people are more excited for a movie with a tree that just says: I am Groot then a Batman movie, you know that something has gone wrong. Marvel had the necessity to make good movies because the characters weren't well known, they couldn't just go off name recognition, they sold all their best-known characters. So the movie had to be good to get the audience invested. DC has the most famous characters of them all, they know that at least a certain amount will go to the movies to see those characters on screen. They are focussing less on making a good movie and just on getting money.
Both companies want more money but since Marvel had no big names in their arsenal, they had to make good movies to get audiences interested.
James Howlett no arguing that. But toys are cool.
Batman and Superman are still household names calm down
Lightsaber As the current meme goes, "Kevin Feige built this in a cave! With a box of scraps!" "I'm sorry. I'm not Kevin Feige."
My personal reason is because Marvels characters are consistent and whenever I watch a DC movie it feels wierd seeing different actors for the same character in every other DC movie
Man... The transition is too good. I mean the way they introduced Kang is amazing and at the perfect time, the multiverse, and the consequences of time travel. Marvel pays way too much detail such as in Antman 2 during the quantum realm there had been a city similar to chronoplis (Kangs city) later the directors revealed that to be a future marvel project. Loki has opened up the multiverse and I can;t wait to see other Marvel storylines and charachters!!!
I can't wait to see doctor strange deal with his new problems Wanda, Mordo from doctor strange, the multiverse, and Spiderman getting chased by the cops now I know I was right about that
Is there antman 2
@@lucyelvis5489 antman and the wasp
@@Connerthespider admitedly not one of their better movies but its shocking how organized and clearly in tune with eachother the MCU's directors were
@@baron2062 true
Marvel’s casting team did such an amazing job, they really chose the perfect actor and actress to play their characters
Thank Sarah Haley Finn for that, at least Marvel division has competent staff.....
And then we have Kathleen Kennedy literally burying SW with her "direction". Direction, my ass.
nou yeah because when I see a marvel character I feel like even outside of the character the person playing them just fits them
No they can cast DC actors and still make great content like Ben Affleck as daredevil
@kim except captain marvel 😪
Except for brie larson
Also because Thor’s eyebrows become more visible each movie it has better progression than DC’s movies
@@sifprx well it's just he was wearing a wig at most and when they cut his hair in ragnarok he got to use his natural hair wich is that color so yeah
Did they dye thor's hair (not chris)? Cause i thought thor is a natual blonde
@@zeenzones6928 no was just a wig transfered over to his real hair in ragnarok
(Muhd Hasif) I think at his roots, Thor’s hair is brown, but it turns blond.
@@M.K.Dutch25 *which
Oh how times have changed
nope the dceu still sucks
@@andrewwong2399 the mcu has always been overrated and garbage
The problem I have with dc is that it's always Batman, superman or wonder woman. They are reluctant to make movies on their lesser known characters. One exception is Aquaman, not the best of superhero movies, but I liked it because we got to see more of Aquaman. They should stop making damn Batman movies. We had like 8 already.
Yeah so true. DC only made movies for characters like Aquaman, Shazam, Harley Quinn(Birds of Prey) because they saw the MCU doing wonderous things with lesser known characters like Wanda, Vision, Falcon, the Guardians, Antman and so much more. Now Characters like Black Adam and the Flash movie are coming, this would have never been possible without the MCU
Totally agree. It's not even the problem for the movies only, they have (kinda) the same issue with the animated universe. Teen Titans' members alone deserve animated moveis of their own. Starfire, Beast Boy, Cyborg, Raven, Blue Beatle, Terra could also be there. I really like Batman, but that doesn't mean I want to watch over 50 movies about him, lmao.
Fr bruh Im not even a dc fan but I feel like they have more interesting characters than marvel they kust don't use it
the last time we got batman movies were nolan trilogy lol.
and honestly, batman has a really big world and characters to explore (robin, rest of the batfamily, alot of other villains)
but wb just keep focusing on bruce's parents death, origins, joker over and over again.
it could've been fine if they did that once, and THEN explore more characters later in the sequel.
but no.. batman just keep getting a new reboot
But Batman is actually genuinely good...
And they did it again
“I am Iron Man”
And "don't do anything stupid till I get back"
@SmashMaster72 I know
@@rockinrobin222 how can I, you're taking all the stupid with you
Colleen Ross that’s a reference
Ook Ack How can I is a line in Endgame
You missed the fact that Thor goes from having no personality and speaking like Shakespeare to having a personality and speaking not like Shakespeare, but I don't mind because Thor Ragnarok was the soft reboot the Thor trilogy needed.
Narwolf in infinity war they fix that because they show that he uses comedy as a coping mechanism after what has happened and you may say that he hasn't lost anything by the start of ragnorok, but he did see in his dream that was basically a prophecy his whole kingdom being destroyed
Thor looks much depressed in the new endgame trailer
@@8bitadamantium306
His mother was stabbed to death, his brother is a mass murderer, and he just broke up with the only love interest he's ever shown to have.
And that was before all the bad stuff happened.
His quest for infinity stones from age of ultron lasted 4 years. He didnt settled in a place,keep on travelled but found nothing. Its enought to change him
To be fair, the Shakespearean talk is really only a Whedon thing. He doesn't really talk like that in his own films.
Live Action: Marvel
Animation: DC
Comics: Both
End Of Discussion.
I’d give the edge on comics to DC but I respect your opinion.
@@shazam2044 Same. They were also the dogs when it came to comics. But they aren't as relevant anymore. Comics don't have as big of a market so they have to adapt.
Agreed
@@shazam2044 Comics are a tie, both have great stories.
I will admit the newer Marvel comics are a bit mediocre but look back at the ones from the 2000s, 90s, 80s, 70s, and 60s. Watchmen and TDKR are definitely better then anything Marvel has written.
@@darkseidwavyy I like both comic companies. I’m just saying that DC has *slightly* better comics
The fact that a tree with the vocabulary capacity of 3 words is much more interesting and developed than superman …. 😬
5 technically
@@reeces.pieces3 5?
@@euphorsia His last words are "We are Groot" so it's technically 5
@@reeces.pieces3 oh yeah how could I forget that
The DCEU is like a high-schooler assigned to write a thousand word essay: their only goal is to reach a thousand words; it doesn't matter to them what those 1000 words actually contain.
THIS
Just shows why target word number assignment is just garbage, and it makes one too
Please see JOKER. Will change the entire game.
Deadpool and Venom are the true future of Marvel. They have too many politics going too many different directions. They are oversaturated, and thats why they keep coming with endless rumors of casting for Phase 5 and almost ZERO anticipation for Eternals. James Gunn is very smart to stay with DC and produce for DC Black Label.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 zero anticipation for eternals? Are you for real? I personally am not that excited for it but the news around always trends. The joker is a tried and tested formula so i have no doubt it'll be great but that doesn't make it that big of an achievement when the joker is the one character like batman which they keep doing again and again
And the mcu is just starting to listen to other criticisms such as not being risky and now all the new projects they've announced are risky in some way or another
You can be a dc fanboi all you want but you can't just make stuff up for an argument
SuperOmnicron Joker wasn’t that good. It was a good movie about mental health but a bad joker movie.
“Infinity wars will be one of the highest grossing films of all time”
Laughs in ENDGAME
Yes but Infnity war better than endgame)
@AbdulAzeem Shaikh ok
@@zimthecat10404 definitely endgame is great but it has a few rushed bits compared to infinity war
@@hermioneblyth7890 I know lol
@@zimthecat10404 I don't say that when I watch infinity war I watch end game too so for me that's a one movie
Batman v Superman was handled better in a kids cartoon than in the live action movies. Much better. DC did not follow up on its animated successes or emulate them. The video did it better too.
That kids cartoon had gore lol
Honestly, the "I can do this all day line" went over my head so hard in civil war, I wish I picked up on that on my own. What a brilliant writing choice
Summarized in two words: *character development.*
Kaederis I’ve agreed with this opinion ALL MY LIFE ITS SO CORRECT AND COULDNT BE MORE CORRECT
all summarized in two words: kevin feige
@@diaachria2882 they make justice league when only half the team had apperead
Summarized in five words:
Both of them aren’t good.
You dont need 20 years of character development to make a good film
Captain America: I can do this all day
Dr.Strange: I can do this all eternity
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dormamu: “nooooo, not again!!”
LOL(っ´▽`)っ
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Marvel's casting is spot on. RDJ as iron man, Scarlett as Black widow, Hemsworth for Thor and Tom Hiddleston for Loki are irreplaceable. DC... Meh,
I actually think the DC casting is pretty good as well. Superman, Aquaman, Wonder Women, Shazam, and even Flash were all great.
Theres little to none chemistry between the actors though, except for what little we got between Wonder Women and Batman.
DC movies just suck because the characters aren't developed at all.
And also because the Plot is often really bad.
@@789blablajaja characters aren't developed at all?😂
From which movie did you find that they r not developed pls tell me
@@imeisgrapes627 just look how many movies there are in the dceu,Then tell me
To be fair dc has a lot of perfect casting but they are just given shitty material.
@@-BeatsKids Gal Gadot as WW? Batfleck? Ray Fisher? I get it that Cavill is good. Margot Robbie too is great. They don't own their characters the way MCU ones does. There was hardly any chemistry between any of those characters in JL or BvS
I don't watch DC, but given the Marvel content we get nowadays, I'm assuming this hasn't aged well.
Endgame wrapped the whole thing up, so Marvel since then has struggled to find a point to it.
DC has POPULAR characters. People know their names and backstory. That’s it.
Marvel made their characters iconic. People know their whole personality and connect to them
“Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.”
@@dr.puggles3610 keep being pressed
@@ekud4831 That makes no sense whatsoever. Plus you only said that people only know their names and backstory because you clearly don’t know anything about DC characters and their fans.
@@dr.puggles3610 DC movies have so much more potential with iconic characters, but the movies don’t really represent the potential of the comics ... that’s the thing and if you disagree, that’s on you
@@ekud4831 Typical. You just bring up the movies and completely disregard everything else. Everyone always says DC is lame just because of their movies. There’s other things to like comic books, Animated movies, Tv shows, and video games.
The only thing dc doesn’t know is
Patience is the key to success
Marvel is for kids that's why they're so popular.
Rorschach nah thats where youre wrong , marvel's targeted audience might be young children but theres a shit ton of older viewers that adore marvel , so youre wrong :)
Rorschach So why is Dark Knight still considered one of the the best if not the best comic book movie of all time? And Logan the only marvel film people wanted to get an Oscar?
Rorschach nah, have you seen how many little kids fanboy/fangirl over Batman and Superman?
@Muskx, The 80s Wolf that keeps appearing in this comment section is the perfect example of a little kid that’s fanboying over BvS.
Well... This aged well 🤣
Just the comment I was looking for lol
Ikr
my oh my how the tables have turned
Haha remember when life used to be "don't spoil infinitywar/endgame for me or i will actually strangle you"
DC can only dream of that kind of reaction to a movie.
I went to school the day after endgame came out and I wore earphones all day Bc people we about to spoil the movie
Some asshole from my school spoiled me that iron man and black widow die
@@masteryi5116 that sucks someone tries to as well but I just put in my earphones fast
@@masteryi5116 oof that sucksss. I was lucky I worked at a movie theater so I ended up watching it pretty early
@@rachela2659 nice im very exited for the next marvel movies like x men and fsntastic 4 marvel got them back
Marvel plot: has multiple story lines tying in with each other toward the end of the film
DC plot: their mothers have the same name
You do realize Superman and Batman always has the same mother’s name since 1939 right? It didn’t just pop up as a reference
Ah shit here we go again....
Batman's parents were killed in a street by a criminal. He became batman to stop such things from happening. But when he heard superman say that he was letting them kill martha, batman realized that he became the exact thing he wanted to stop. He was now the criminal who was now basically killing another mother, another martha
let's not pretend that Marvel plots are anything special, cookie-cutter "superhero overcomes self-doubt and defeats the badly developed villain so that he/she can get with the bland love interest."
@kavikiru kavikiru he goes disabling the mobs in the next scene. That's what Batman does. Also at the end he doesn't brand Lex as his brutality and cruelness were redeemed by Superman's sacrifice and realization that it was his mistake that Superman died.
@kavikiru kavikiru I was referring to the warehouse scene that comes after the martha scene. He only disables those mobs.
This hasn’t aged well…
Yep
I'm actually glad DC realized their mistake and now we got movies like The Snyder Cut, The Suicide Squad, and more potentially good DCEU movies to come
Tho, this video has some good points too
I don't know, but I think it's Warner Bros who wanted to catch up. The people at DC are passionate
The Batman was fantastic. I think DC is making a comeback on the movie front
Vanished Captain America: I can do this all day
Future Captain America: I know
Character development in a nutshell
Well, it established consistency. 🤷🏾♂️
company payment caught up I just believe it still a good business
Its simple: DC was busy watching marvel.
😂
😂😂
😂 true af
Hahah true, while wondering how the copied version of the DC characters are pretending to be the real deal.
@@control4050 Yet Marvel is doing better
this did not age well
This aged well like water
Marvel is able to make a tree a more interesting character then superman in the DCEU. That is just sad.
I can’t tell if you’re making a joke about the “Tree” part or you’re just talking about Groot lol
To be fair, i think that making superman interesting is quite difficult specially today
@@eraniogem22 One way I can think of... is if someway he loses his power for almost an entire movie and learns from it. Then eventually getting it back.
@@BenjaminBBall i'm sure it's groot he's adorable
@@Gundam79 Oh in that case, I never watched jt
Marvel builds up characters and assemble it but DC build assembly instantly
They don't even have a theme music as cool as avengers
@@sundravigneshwarp3187 or gotg
If u don't know what dat means its guardians of the galaxy
Marvel just makes kiddy humor instead of character development. They only try to put character development in the very end of their stories right before the big fight. That’s why everyone criticizes marvel villians, because they are generic and barely cause any trauma to the hero. Look at the dark knights joker or Aries from Wonder Woman. They drive the protagonist insane. Marvel movies just replace that with kid friendly content. That’s why last years joker (with adult content) got better reviews, Oscar nominations, and made more money than endgame. I’m not even a DC fan but marvel movies just bore me to the point where I’m ranting on a TH-cam video.
@@clevernickname3396 marvel is better then DC
Then why can they only succeed DC in movies?
I feel like it’s all about relatability. We all relate to the marvel characters on some level as they felt more human, even a talking tree and an assassin raccoon. For me it’s weird since i grew up watching dc’s animated shows but dceu feels so foreign to me, like it’s not even the same characters anymore.
The primary difference can be summarized in two words: character development.
Also, Tony doesn’t retire at the end of Iron Man 3. He simply distinguishes his identity as a person from the armor. He realizes he is more than JUST Iron Man.
Marvel has three Chris's and YOU CANT BEAT THAT.
Thanks for 2k...
AND TWO TOMS. TWO VERY PRECIOUS TOMS
also they have one Scarlett in MCU, and one Scarlett in real life
word life one of the stunt doubles are named chris too. I think it was chris pratt's stunt double
They also have two Sherlock's and two Watson's
Chris Cult
DC rushed it, plain and simple. They should've played the long game and build each characters up instead of skipping everything and immediately kill Superman just to catch up with Marvel.
@King Nereus unlike my dong
Akmal Ibrahim why does everybody keep sayin this no hate towards marvel movies they are fantastic! But D.C. Hasn't made 21 movies yet 😂 give them time. They could surprise you
@@josh4lyfe134 marvel made a masterpiece as their first. DC made trash. Their first team up was amazing. DC made trash. The first marvel movies were better than the first DC movies
@King Nereus i mean DCEU...
@King Nereus then why were you talking about older movies
This didn't age well considering nowadays movies
Cries in phase 4
Or maybe because DC wears their underwear outside their actual clothing
LMAO
I wouldn’t argue with that.
Amazing RABBIT channel 💀💀
Yep
Rutheless Truth IT’S A JOKE!
Superman: seriously? It takes 5 of you to take down an alien invasion?
Tony: at least we don’t wear our undies outside.
DC costumes are much cooler. Also fuck marvel
@@theshadow5352 lmao DC costumes, have you seen flash, shazam, and cyborg.😂😂
Dav1d9 preach! why do their costumes look like... that?
and @Xun Nuo Kuek I’m laughing
@@theshadow5352 wearing underwear over costume isn't a personality trait xD
Superman: Taking on an alien invasion is easy.
Iron Man: Well, it could've been easier if we weren't trying our best to make sure innocent people didn't die.
Superman: What do you mean?
Iron Man: So, that time when the court blew up, did you even have an answer?
Superman: N'all. I've never knew what to say. I saved everybody.
Iron Man: ... (Whilst thinking: "Bruh....")
Wow, this did not age well
i just love how marvel humbles down their superheroes. like they make them pay for their reckless actions (where they realize that they unintentionally hurting other people) and make them humane and relatable. pLUS THE PACING! They don't rush character growth and each character, main or side, has story arcs and i love them for that. heck i like a hammer and a talking tree more than superman 😭🤭
Honestly if DC took their time and slowly developed their stories, then it would have been so much better then rushing to catch up with another franchise.
Well half of the dceu sucks tho im a dc fan i like comics better then the movies i also respect marvel for all their work into their movies so yeah
@@strawberrypeppermint4185 yeah but DC multiverse movies (except the DCEU ones) are all pretty good
@@swift_lordyt6865 yeah i also think the aroowverse stories are good (exept for batwoman) and i know their shows but i agree if dc took slow like what they do with their comics the dceu woul of been like the mcu so yeah
Ayo, I'm a Marvel fan but have you niggas forgotten TDK Trilogy? JOKER? DC is capable of putting true substance in their films when they want to cuz both those examples I mentioned are HEAVILY praised and put in high regard.
@@balmain-i3e DC's movies are at their best when they're not trying to make a DCEU
In my opinion, Marvel movies are better because they don't take themselves too seriously all the time. DC is always soooo heavy and dark. Infinity War's ending was devastating, but the movie overall was brilliantly funny too.
T Gev aquaman wasn’t dark and Shazam is looking to be as light as GOTG
@@mnbvmnbv7934 they did after their last dark movie like BvS and JL are doesn't work. they should realize after BvS failure and make JL better than ressurected superman with akward unfunny joke batman with flash fighting mosquitos. i was waiting JL could be stand next to the avengers but its a major flop, everyone really dissapointed with it
superhero movies aren't comedy. you want a guy like batman who is someone who as a kid saw his parents killed right in front of him to be a comedian? batman and robin movie from the 90's is the worst one ever due to the bs one liners, cheese humor... stupid crap. go ahead tho, enjoy all that bull dumb comedy and jokes while in mid battle scene like all other simpletons. DC is too smart and complex to bring 100% to the movies... people cry and cry wahhhh I don't understand what's going on or the characters motivations. PAY ATTENTION maybe? You mad because Superman hasn't cracked a stupid joke in the past hour?
If they imitate MCU comedy wise they would fail. DC theme is always serious and dark. It can use a little of dark wit. Like House MD kind of wit. But not light nor comedic.
@@mnbvmnbv7934 Don't get me started on Shazam, acting like a kid stuck in an adults body is new and innovative. The actor acts 10 not 15 it is like they have never met a 15 year old. It looks like a kids film I mean the suits? Look like a kid drew it. The trailer didn't intregue me at all and turned me away from watching it
this video aged well...kinda
After seeing the recent Suicide Squad, The Batman, and Peacemaker show. I feel like DC is making a comeback.
He didn't retire in Iron Man 3. He started a new journey. He began a new character arc.
Thought si too
Yeah that’s why he got surgery
Yeah I mean if he wanted to point to a character who makes an abrupt change. Look at thor between dark world and ragnarock he became a wisecracker out of nowhere. Though even then it’s heavily implied in infinity war, and endgame that he’s making jokes to cope with his pain and loss.
Simple answer: Marvel has fun with their movies while DC tries too hard to be dark and serious
*EDIT:* It's so good to see DC learn from their mistakes with Shazam!, Aquaman, Joker, and The Batman
Nathaniel R. Solis That doesn’t even fucking matter look at Joker highest grossing R rated movie of all time.
last year DC's film wasn't actually serious
@@eliasbairamis6069 see the above comment.
Hail Pickens 24 I’m pretty sure the original comment was comparing the mcu to the dceu. The jokes in the mcu feel natural while the dceu’s just feel forced and just out of place.
The Shinoobi If you are talking about justice league or suicide squad then sure
Ah, 5 years ago. How different it was back then.
Oh how the turn tables
It's simple the dceu keeps milking the icons while the mcu makes their icons
Now this is just... sad, because it is the truth.
Marvel doesn't have icons, and the characters they do have they either stole from DC, or just make a movie about them(milking them). Like making a movie on Captain America is "milking" the character.
@@michaelwomack5769 just accept the truth DC fanboy
@@nahiannir470 What is iconic about marvel?
Did anyone know about Iron Man,GOTG etc before MCU?No,
and now you will hardly find anyone who don’t know them
Marvel makes their Icons
For DC,
WB just keeps rebooting Superman and Batman
They will be releasing a new batman with Robert Pattinson and a movie with Black Superman
What can they do except that😂😂
I wouldn’t say Tony Stark retires in Iron Man 3. I saw the ending as him no longer defining himself as being Iron Man that was why he had the metal removed from his chest, why we don’t see him flying around in the suit for fun anymore and why he designed an Iron Spider suit for Peter Parker and a suit for Pepper. He decided that whilst he IS Iron Man, Iron Man is not all HE is.
This comment finally answers the question, does the man make the suit? Or does the suit make the man?
“We create our own demons” was kind of like a foreshadowing to Age of Ultron, so I agree.
@@michaelwomack5769 uhm... What? Batman is ab a dude who's parents die and he gets revenge years later. Iron Man is ab a dude who is kidnapped, tortured and makes an iron suit to fight bad guys
@@_mylo_xyloto_1816 They both don’t have powers. They both are super smart. They both are rich. They both fight bad guys. They both use tech to fight crime and build suits. They even both have butlers as a main character “Alfred” for Batman, and “Jarvis” for iron man(you probably wouldn’t know Jarvis was a butler bc you don’t read the comics)
@@michaelwomack5769 Jarvis was Howard's personal butler, not Tony's. Also, what the fuck does reading the comics have to do with anything?
Now Marvel is also on the same path
And here we are in 2022, with The Batman alongside Morbius
Tony doesn't retire in iron man 3 just gives up his obsession of building suits to deal with his ptsd.
Yeah, he blew up the suits to show Pepper he wouldn't just obsess over making new suits every day. He literally says he isn't going to retire in the end of the movie.
"You can take away my house, all my tricks and toys. One thing you can't take, I am Iron Man."
Conner Wiltshire yeah.....then he makes a bunch of suits for every film after....
Kira The Renegade Uhhh no. He makes 4 suits. One being to contain the hulk, and the other for emergencies. He doesn’t build another literal 50 suits like he did in iron man 3
Conner Wiltshire And even if he did retire, it wouldn't be a flaw of Iron man 3, it would be a flaw of Avengers 2.
Conner Wiltshire agreed, in civil war he says “I didn’t stop because I don’t want to stop”. He didn’t want to stop being iron man, so he didn’t
Numbers speak for itself. Avengers EndGame made more money in a day than Justice League made in its entire theatrical run lmao
Sad but true
Whoa, for real? That's crazy!
Victoria Ponte it’s gotten more box office money than the Titanic movie at this point
Endgame also made more money on its first five hours of opening day than Blade Runner 2049 made in its entire theatrical run. I suppose Endgame is a better movie by that metric.
@@antona.8659 It is, Endgame has 95% rating on RT whereas Blade Runner 2049 has 87%
I remember when that use to be true about Marvel. Those were the days.
Yea
this aged like milk
It also helps that Marvel took their time and have building this shit up for 10 years instead of hopping on the bandwagon and trying to push out an "avengers" movie as quickly as possible.
Yeah, agree. As I understood, TJL had to be something similar to the first Avengers movie, where all the heroes meet each other for the first time. We already know their stories, predict reactions, but in TJL we have 2 known characters, then 2 appears from nowhere (and still till the end of the movie we have no clue what the hell they are doing there) and 1 is suddenly revived. There's no plot consistency, so no wonder TJL had such a poor performance. They should've introduced the Flash and Aqua man in 2 separate movies, the intersection of the team in an attempt to revive Superman, and only at the end of the 3rd movie, give a hint to TJL. Then it would be much consistent, and the plot wouldn't be like a roller coaster. But they decided to skip that and put 4 movie plots into 1.
no, that doesn't help. not even one fucking bit
The key is that the 3 main characters in the Avengers, Iron Man, Thor and Captain America had already had their introduction movies. In those introductions most, if not all, of the secondary characters (Black Widow, Hawkeye, Fury, etc) had been introduced too. Even Spiderman had his own movie before they dragged him into the larger group. Doctor Strange, Ant Man and The Guardians also had their own movies before they were brought into the extended universe.
On the other hand, with DC, we had two characters with any kind of cinematic history by the time they did their super group movie, Superman and Wonder Woman. The current iteration of Batman hasn't had his own movie yet and the other three, Flash, Cyborg and Aqua Man, were brought in cold. While all these characters are familiar to almost everyone, in some way or another, we weren't familiar with their cinematic versions.
In short, DC is doing everything ass backwards. Marvel introduces their characters, let's them than have their own spotlight for 1 or 2 movies and THEN brings them into the group. Dc did the exact opposite. With the exception of the first Superman movies, it was "Throw them in a group, we'll sort them out later".
@@battlestardesigns Sad Dceu fanboy...
@@jonathanrobles9422 i own more marvel comics than dc
At the end of the day, Marvel made movies because they wanted to reach a wider audience and bring their characters to life, so sat down and made a ten year plan that introduced every character before they interacted, or gave you enough on them that you cared about their storyline (even Vision had a bit of an established character as Jarvis). DC on the other hand tried to cash in on the superhero craze in the same way, but instead of thinking it through or letting us get to know the characters, they released them all in quick succession, and only gave us two films of the five focusing on one hero.
TLDR; there's a VERY clear difference in how much each company actually cares about the films they're making.
Well this aged well
This aged like milk
Just like to point out that Tony Stark never retired, the line where he “retires” is him saying that he doesn’t need his suits to be a hero, which was a recurring theme throughout the film
Richard Parker and he admits that he can not retire! Tahiti’s why Civil War is so deep!
He doesn't retire at all. He activated the "clean slate protocol". Clean slate means starting fresh.
He DEAD.
god forbid Riri Williams takes up the mantle.
Rest assured he'll be back right around the time Capt Marvel-Spider-Man bombs.
Man, everything sounds SO much better with a proper british accent.
Ricardo Morales 😂
So true
yup,and with Zimmer's background too
The things I liked about DC is the score and Wonder Woman (the character not the movie)
Ricardo Morales it really does
This title of this video is aging like milk.
One old man once said:"That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero."
If DC turned the brightness up in their movies they’d be good lol
Zayoe 2.0 i don’t even think that would make a difference. JLA did that and it was worse than BvS, I think. It’s like the dude said; make the characters consistent and give them purpose
Snyder apologists trying to justify his crap.
99% the reason i hate dc movies...the other 1% is bad storyline..
I don’t think that would be the greatest thing, because DC is known for their dark stories, but as long as these dark stories have a real deep plot and their Character reasons are good, DC May end up making a good movie
Looks like Aquaman listened. Who the hell thought he would make DC a billion dollars?
Easy answer: People connect to Marvel's characters more. They apply their beliefs and values to real life situations. They feel close to them. Which makes them want to see more.
easier answer, Zack Snyder is no where near as talented enough to direct then some of the people marvel is getting.
Batman and Superman are both relatable just not in the film
It's because DC movies feels like child cartoons. Scripts are too simple and meaningless. They need a good writer as well as patience. DC tried to create its Infinity war movie while marvel prepared its actors and actresses for over 10 years. That's why each of Marvel heroes has their fans. Additionally, DC has no balance the justice league could not able to defeat Steppenwolf whereas Supermen ended him in seconds. It's actually meaningless and boring. Marvel characters strong in comics but in movies they are made way more weaker than they are in comics and it really helps to create entertaining movies. Meanwhile DC movies uses their characters with their full potential and it feels like too much and make that movie more cartoonish.
@@mitxunjumaboev5454 TBH dceu is way more realistic than mcu would ever be.
@@GauravYadav-bf7qj says superman whose weakness is a green rock
These arguments on each reply comment is amazingly entertaining
*Insert scene of Batman walking out of the shadows with Giacchino's score blaring*
ok
Notice how the only dc movies that are genuinely great aren’t in the dceu
Except Aquaman and Shazam that are pretty good
Gellert_ TV I wouldn’t say either of them are great though. Aqua man has lot of problems and Shazam isn’t as good on second and third viewings cuz if you know all the jokes there’s rlly not much entertainment left.
@@Jack-yz2rj Nah I would still say shazam is still an overall solid "good" movie. But yeah the best dc films aren't in the DCEU because it's a mess right now.
@@Gadget-Walkmen same
Wonder Woman is an amazing movie.
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Dc for life
Dc sucks
Both
Guys this is just the Mcu & Dceu not fully marvel and dc
paola escalona DC movies do right now but everything else DC is good
I personally am liking DC movies more than marvel now. It just feels like marvels a bit burnt out after endgame and now they're just producing mindless laugh tracks that are not gripping whatsoever. Hopefully they get past this stage as quickly as possible :)
This didn’t age well
Tony Stark boasting about him being "a genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist" is funny and savage because that is how we saw this character for the last 2 films.
Bruce, after brooding for the entirety of BvS, saying "I am rich" is just stupid and cringe.
Raj S Joss Wheedon is responsible for that I want you all boot licking mcu fans to remember that.
Lemon Pepper the joke batman makes doesn’t make sense with the character the movies have built since he’s always super serious so when he suddenly tells a joke it’s just cringe. Iron man has always made jokes since the very first movie so it’s not weird when he does it because the audience knows this is part of his character.
I find them both a bit cringy lol
Lemon Pepper not a stupid joke,
A garbage movie
@@quackadoo3101 that was not a joke. Being rich is literally one of his most important advantages.
This is so true. I really wanted to see avengers infinity war because I wanted to see the characters interact with each other
It's weird that Infinity War tries to be an action movie with some comedy, ends up nailing both and also being dark and gritty even though that wasn't really the intent. Without even trying it does all DC had going for it better than DC, in addition to good action, solid characters, a good story and some genuinely funny comedy.
@@irllcd13 IW and the Ant-Mans are the only ones to do comedy correctly.
@@MisterHeroman What about Guardians of the Galaxy.
One of reason is marvel has a visonary *kevin feige* , who plans atleast 10 years ahead.
this has aged like milk lol
One word actually for me. Patience. MCU give one movie just to introduce a supporting character. DCEU is all rushed and a mesh.
I'll take a mesh over release one origin film after the other in half a dozen months.
1skylax11 Id rather have 12+ great movies in 10 years over 4 meh movies in 3 years
lairdriver It’s not a matter of release pace being rushed. It’s the character development and the stories that are rushed
lairdriver Yeah, but what are the first 5 Marvel movies? Yes they are
1.- Iron Man
2.- The Incredible Hulk
3.- Iron Man 2
4.- Captain America
5.- Thor
And what are DC's first 5 movies?
1.- Man of Steel
2.- Batman Vs. Superman
3.- Suicide Squad
4.- Wonder Woman
5.- Justice League
Do you see the problem here or you still don't see it? They just mashed characters in that you don't know anything about in Justice League, the only character you don't know anything about in Avengers 1 is Hawkeye, the rest appeared in their own movie or were a supporting character in a film (Black Widow in Iron Man 2). You don't see absolutely nothing about Aquaman, Flash or Cyborg until Justice League apart from a cameo in BvS.
DC's universe is rushed, accept it.
@@Starfire_Storm even Hawkeye appeared in Thor
DC: Send in the clown
Joker movie reference
"We have 1 successful movie! Now what?..."
@@kingcrimson4313 the dark knight trilogy also exists
@doggo the Title says "WHY MARVEL makes good movies than DC" not MCU and DCEU.....
First try to read carefully what is written then post comment
1 good movie doesn’t mean shit
disney : avengers is a big thing, can we make them first?
marvel : no, we got to develop the member of the avengers first, then we do avengers
wb : justice league is a big deal, can we make it first
wb : hell yeah, good idea
dc : but the character development gonna be-
wb : lets fckin make it
Yo I get you.
But First of alll. WB haven't had any plan like marvel with alot of movies connecting together.
Like Nolan had a 3movie plan and Snyder had 5movie plan.
All I saw in Avengers member is that they got from great to good and fine. I didn't see any developments
@@imeisgrapes627 maybe not character development but more like introduction of a character, atleast we know the basic stuff of the character
I remember having a lot of hype to Justice League, and everyone getting severely disappointed when it came out
I'm an English teacher and the next unit I teach is character arcs. I'm definitely showing this video to kick off why this unit is important
More English teachers need to use examples from pop culture. They also need to use more examples of where things go wrong, instead of just the classics (which are so renowned that they're practically untouchable, which weakens the lessons by making it seem like anything can have this themey stuff if you stare at it for a few centuries).
Give the children knowledge my man :)
Mr. Williams? I didnt know u had a youtube channel :O
This better get pinned.
How'd it go? It's been a year now
5:44 Marvel is capable of telling a story about Hulk's struggle by not doing another Hulk movie...and it works.
Yes. That's true.
Taufiq Othman
Marvel can't do a Hulk movie. Or rather they can but there are distribution issues. They own the rights to the Hulk and can make a Hulk movie. The problem is they don't own the distribution rights; universal does. So they would have to go through Universal to distribute the movie and Disney is not having that.
Apparently disney tried to buy the hulk rights awhile ago and universal said "nah son, we gunna keep em, what you gunna do bout it?"
ATMOSK1234 I feel like Universal can’t make a good hulk movie so they won’t let anyone else make a good one. It may hurt themselves but they bringing Disney down in that aspect.
I'm still waiting for the Leader...
DC always uses the same characters all the time while Marvel uses different characters a lot, which makes me like Marvel more.
@@nkb5245 i don’t care
Well this aged like warm milk considering the last 4 years of pure trash in the MCU