The God roll weapons of Into the Light (Recluse, Mountaintop, Hammerhead & More)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
- Bungie dropped an article going over all of the perks rolls of all 12 weapons coming with Into the Light. I figure I'm gonna be asked about my thoughts on all of the weapons, so let's get it. I will make a follow up video if need be during Into the Light for any other rolls I find interesting.
article: www.bungie.net/7/en/News/arti...
intro - 0:00
forbearance - 3:06
succession - 7:23
falling guillotine - 9:55
recluse - 13:38
mountaintop - 15:51
hammerhead - 18:11
blast furnace - 21:28
edge transit - 24:32
luna's howl - 27:49
midnight coup - 29:23
hung jury - 30:32
elsie's rifle - 31:49
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I forgot about Datto’s Go Figure from back in the Forsaken days. Truly an iconic weapon
Same! I still have mine in my vault. I love that weapon and I truly cannot describe why.
When I first started playing the game in Shadowkeep, I had an Outlaw/Rampage Go Figure and that thing absolutely carried my entire progress through all the main quests and season
I miss my go figure truly a nostalgic weapon
I still have my outlaw/ rampage Go Figure in my vault. It has the most kills out of every weapon in my vault.
Still my favorite gun in destiny history. Nothing has ever felt as good to me.
11:27 “situational” is probably the best way to describe swords rn
“bad” would be a better way
The only time I use swords are for Shatterskating in Last Wish for the secret chest
@@EllyarkTbf the only use for me with swords is eager edge, the other half is prolly my most used weapon
Yeah the only places I see them get any use for damage is the first Warlords and Ghosts of the Deep bosses, and Crota.
@@Ellyarkno because they’re the meta option for crota so calling them bad is just wrong, they’re very situational
The only thing I'm hoping is that the weekly timegate (if they don't just remove it due to community outcry) is that it has player agency to it. So instead of just a set order, the player can "unlock" a weapon of their choosing. Timegate is still there, but the weapons you care about most you can get more towards the start.
Edit: timegate was just cut in half. Nice 🙂
real
Its definitely not gonna be that generous. My hope is enough backlash gets them to reduce the time. Only 2 weeks to farm the final weapon (probably mountaintop) is ass
How about no timegate
@@Xlaws I mean, duhh, of course. I'm not advocating for one. I'm just saying that "Timegate" can be on a spectrum of how good or bad it is for the player. If there is going to be a timegate, no matter what, there are multiple ways they could do it: set order, RNG, or player choice.
That would make too much sense
Not even mad. The Hung Jury and Succession were bottom priority for me so this makes my order a little easier to choose
I for one will be rocking midnight coup and recluse considering I love hand cannons and SMGS and they are both my personal favourite, except midnight coup which is second to palindrome.
And honestly even if its time gated which sure for the people who love to farm and farm it sucks but I personally dont mind, itll give me a reason to farm each week and keep coming back
Because of how little time I have to sharpen my skills now since I’m working two jobs and with how toxic LFG is, I’ve never done a full raid more than once or twice, so getting succession and forebearance is really nice for me. The only one they could’ve nixed was Hung Jury because we ALREADY HAVE IT IN THE VANGUARD FOCUSING TAB, and it already had most of these perks. Would have preferred Hawksaw, Shadow Price, Atheon’s Epilogue, Steefeather Repeater, or that one fusion that could swap between solar and arc damage to name a few
@@maisharona5861 i think even am auto in its place would have been good, there have been some nasty popular autos in past years like gnawing hunger, yeah its still relevent now but so is forebearance and falling guillotine
@@ThtSunbreakerdude I pulled out a zen moment/kc gnawing in PvP the other day and the thing absolutely shreds lmao
@@ItsPizzachu and forebearance still shreds, your point?
Switching between Mountaintop with auto/harmony to a master of arms recluse 🤤
Recombination is gonna be better for that I bet
@@bjcooper4365I saw that it'll be able to roll with Ambitious Assassin + Recombination and i promptly creamed my booty jorts
@@bjcooper4365Can confirm, Recombination is absolutely bonkers on Mountaintop.
I get what they are going for with releasing the weapons per week, but it really destroys my enthusiasm to play onslaught for the rewards since all of the weapons I am interested (minus recluse) will be releasing week by week..,
And recluse isn’t even that good because they nerfed master of arms and it doesn’t have double damage perks.
@@Fire4wardrepulsor brace/destabilizing?? It's literally a better funnelweb lmao
@@rowleyjefferson9335 that combo is wildly overrated
Then don't play? If you don't find yourself wanting to play don't, so many players (especially on D2) play without having any enjoyment in it just don't play. Getting mad at time gating is kinda just dumb tbh go do something else till your weapon comes up, live your life.
@@noface-29 terrible viewpoint. People are allowed to have criticisms. People are allowed to point out flaws in the games they play. It's ok to call out developers on things they do wrong. If YOU like the current state of the game that's great. Doesn't mean other people have to like it too.
I think many are sleeping on Luna's 50% Magnificent Howl damage buff. The perk description says kills with the bonus shots add more bonus shots and I feel some kind of Subsistence + Mag Howl combo will result in permanent 50% damage buff uptime on the weapon.
Definitely excited to try it out!
Does subsistence work with reload damaged perks?
@@Spatan295 typically, it does not as it's not coded as a reload
@@Spatan295 the thing is that you could get one kill, oneshot adds with subsistance and then depending on the max stacks you could get a whole mag of magnificient howl, that can be used to keep chaining or could stack with lucky pants
Yeah that Subsistence + Magnificent howl is the play for Luna. Let the Subsistence feed Luna ammo until you have enough head shot kills stacked to unleash the Magnificent howl
@@ivantarjan7360 ah I see because it chains the precision kills-then when you’re ready to actually reload, it stacks a new set of bullets with mag howl? Correct me if I’m wrong.
I've been watching a bunch of your videos coming back from a break and I've gotta say, I'm absolutely loving your opening line game. Truly great stuff.
I'm just glad to be getting Hammerhead back. That was my favorite machine gun on my old account, before sunsetting was introduced.
I just wished they didn't hide it at the bottom of the article, if they mentioned the loot being spread out yesterday during the stream I would have minded less. Felt like they were trying to hide it.
I'm really looking forward to getting a repulsor/MoA recluse for my gyrfalcon setup. I've always felt like destabilizing is overkill on gyrfalcon setups since you get so so much volatile rounds as it is, using that perk slot on something else just feels better imo
Unfortunately frenzy will be better.
+15% damage, the same as MoA, and +100 handling/reload? MoA is just not worth it.
Really wish it was but...
Mountain top lead from gold and recombination. Excellent.
ill be going for auto loading and recombination but its so sick im excited its crazy that it has recombination
I’m going impulse amplifier and vorpal, time to break out Anarchy!
Imma just get like 10 of them
@@ac1dnetnah it’s alh vorpal if ur swapping it’s the same as frenzy without having to wait
@@rakionyellowmind2293real, there’s too many fire rolls
For anyone who wasn't around during Forsaken, something weird was going on with Prime Engrams where Edge Transits dropped way, way more often than any other weapon from them, to the point where it turned into a massive meme.
Shout out to bungie for actually figuring out how to time gate every single aspect of their company, from employment time to loot drops
Edit: I see they’ve changed it to release all weapons by April 30th, we cried enough everyone be proud
They gotta fill the next 2 months with content somehow 🤷♂️
Had a feeling something like this would happen
It was almost too good to be true
@@pooPbutwholethey really dont.
They really are disgusting
I'm not a fan of time gating either but you know damn well the sweaty tryhards will spam farm every god roll day 1 and spend 2 months crying there's nothing to do.
Mountaintop with ALH and Recombination will be amazing as a pocket Parasite major/champion killer, super excited to test it out.
I’m actually looking forward to getting a Luna’s Howl just because on controller a 140 with precision recoil is going to be really good, and unique.
my favourite part of datto’s go figure was the amount of times people asked what roll he had
what was the roll lol
@@interacting Outlaw/Kill Clip
I'm glad that bungie is giving non-raiding players a way to get weapons that somewhat rival raid weapons. As someone that was only able to get Apex through the Riven's Wishes thing, I'm excited to get Forbearance and something that rivals commemoration.
Rampage + Killing Tally with Actium War Rig sounds nasty and I'm all for it
I wholeheartedly agree. My clan doesn't have enough people in it to raid, and I would be first-timing every raid if I tried so I can't do it with the LFG discord if I want to spare my sanity. Raiding is just not an option. I wanted Undercurrent but the couple times I got to farm for it, I never got a good roll. Being able to get Forbearance is really nice
@@bombshellblonde544 I totally get it. I haven't raided since Destiny 1. My clan has enough people but most of us don't really care for raiding and/or stopped playing the game due to bungie's screw-ups. I got really lucky with my first undercurrent drop, it had demo + voltshot, which was the roll I wanted so I'm happy.
Partially bummed that some other former Pinnacles are missing from this lineup; I feel that Revoker could've swapped in for Succession and Oxygen SR3 for Hung Jury, and no love for Gambit as always, but it's still exciting to see these weapons back!
Not a single Gambit ritual sticks out to me except for Delirium, which I do hope comes back soon
Problem is that most of the other pinnacles that haven't already returned just aren't memorable enough. From Gambit you only have 21% Delirium and Hush - Hush was decidedly meh and Hammerhead easily wins the LMG slot. Oxygen has Hush's problem of being very mid and unmemorable, but it also has the issue of Meganeura - i.e. they would need to redesign the perk to a) be actually useful in the wake of Dragonflys buffs and Fireflys existence, and b) work on other weapons, which is probably a bit much work for a weapon very few can remember. I definitely agree Hung Jury again is too much, but if nothing else it IS the most memorable scout to a lot of people.
As for Revoker, well, then you'd be rereleasing every Crucible Pinnacle at once and would reintroduce its perk. And Revokers stats and general feel gear it much more towards PvP, when they ideally want these guns to maintain some sort of balance. Plus getting non-Raiders or expac owners a taste of the good shit (TM), which I certainly approve of.
The thing is we’ve already got pretty much all of them back and their perks. We got breakneck(yeah you can’t get the roll) and we have killing Talley. Also the bow never really got much hype it was nasty though. But yeah I would’ve loved to see oxygen back instead of schlong jury. I don’t know how they would’ve brought back revolver especially with the new ammo system
Revoker broke the crucible, it can't come back imo
Yea I wish Python came back that shit was fire when it released
Midnight coup with firefly and rampage/one for all looks nutty.
Just realized midnight has 90 aim assist. Guess my rose is being replaced
@@shquankinket8068 Rose still has the lightweight frame, so it has that going for it. I’m more so worried if Midnight Coup has the stats to be a solid pvp hand cannon.
Cool, was considering coming back and then 1 minute in Bungie time-gated my interest
Love the weapon rolls, can’t stand the time gate
Why?
@@noface-29 time gating has never been a good thing for normal Destiny players. Sure, it keeps the streamers from burning through everything in a day then complaining to their audience that there’s nothing to do, but for the vast majority of players. It serves no purpose.
@@notarrat0767 I get getting annoyed by it, but the general sentiment is that bungie is the worst thing on planet earth and that the time gating is some huge thing. When in all reality it just means that you play destiny a little less something which I feel like most people would benefit from lol.
@@noface-29 I don’t need Bungie to make that choice for me, and id argue most people feel the same. Let players play your game as much or as little as they want, time gating does nothing but do exactly what it’s doing right now: sour what should be an easy W for Bungie.
@@notarrat0767 but you don't get to make that choice for bungie, they don't owe us anything really if tomorrow they wanted to make it that if you died your account got banned they could it's they're game, which makes your entire point of bungie making your choice for you weird, you might play the game but it's not yours so why would you get a say in the decisions they make?
Super helpful as always!
Im super excited for destabalizing rounds + killing tally, for hammerhead, feels like insane add clear
Thanks for taking about edge
youve been cooking here sir Datto with the weapon reviews and opinions here recently... Im digging it.... How about when you destroy someones vault you turn it educational for everyone so we know why or why its not garbage... keep the vids coming, only reason to hang around right now is the content creators fueling the interest... thank you all
Blast furnace with kinetic tremors + frenzy sounds amazing, you get to have a slight damage boost to help out pulses with their low damage and a massive reload and handling boost to keep you shooting as much as possible amd tremors to actually allow you to clear ads and chunk majors in high level content.
Plus I think frenzy would boost tremor damage
Kill Clip doesn't, so Frenzy won't. Still nice
@@Michael-ee4uz ah that's a shame, oh well
Frenzy will buff kinetic damage as it’s a constant buff whereas kill clip requires a kill
@@fenrisfafnir6490 the tremors will not receive damage buffs, only the bullets.
The realization of combining Envious/Cascade Point hit me just before you actually stated it (as soon as you said multiple perks in the columns) and I just started dying from laughter at the thought of mag-dumping 18 rounds into a boss in like 5 secs
my opinion has arrived
Hopefully your originality arrives next!
@@ShervierJDon’t hold your breath.
My comment has arrived
one day this joke will be funny
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As a One For All enjoyer myself I am very excited about Midnight Coup and Blast Furnace simply because both Firefly (on Coup) and Kinetic Tremors (on Blast) can activate One For All just by shooting or killing one enemy. Also One For All buffs Firefly's damage by 35% too (we can't test that with Kinetic Tremors yet but I don't think it's going to work like that since it's damage is fixed). My favourite weapon ever is Insidious with One For All and Dragonfly and I am really happy Bungie is putting similar perk combinations on more weapons (that aren't Tyranny of Heavens). Can't wait to farm them!
It's going to be fun to watch hypeCross video after this mellow one ;) tnx for a good video
Hammerhead with destabilizing/killing tally is my personal weapon roll I’m looking out for the most, although that rampage killing tally is also really interesting too, other than that blast furnace, midnight coup, and mountaintop all good weapons in looking for tbh
Hammerhead with Rampage+Onslaught (shoutout OG Breakneck) will probably rip absurdly hard in pve and pvp so I'll be checking that out tyvm
I will forever be sad that Threat Level wasnt picked to return.
Still have my curated day one Scourge of the past drop in my Vault...
But no I guess Hung jury can get reissued YET AGAIN
I 100% would've rather gotten Patron of Lost Causes or Randy's Throwing Knife over Hung Jury. 200s and 260s are much better then 180s in PvE imo, although I kinda also wish we had gotten something other then a scout rifle.
@@Keksis7 You can get Randy's Throwing Knife from the Crucible right now.
Time gating everything like a f2p mobile game is what always stopped me from me becoming addicted to this game. So thank you for that Bungie.
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Genuinely seems that they are helping you lol
Hey Datto I think you should try blast furnace with Kinetic tremors and one for all since kinetic tremors can proc one for all, seems like natural synergy and it might just be something you like!
I’m excited for Blast Furnace with kinetic tremors because it’s a four burst, so when enhanced, it could be legitimately amazing, even more so if one for all is triggered off kinetic tremors shockwaves.
Nice weapons we’ve seen for multiple seasons back again for another season & they might sunset them & bring them back for next season!
10:40 im also not usually a vorpal kinda guy, but that's only because its normally in the 4th column and replaces other better options like whirlwind or bait and switch. Since on falling guillotine, vorpal is in the 3rd column, it means you can double up on damage perks, and do vorpal AND one of the other two I mentioned, so its legitimately a viable option this time
Edit: Nevermind, frenzy is in column 3 too lmao, more damage go brr
Explosive Payload and Frenzy is a fantastic roll on Midnight Coup if you couldn't grab a Fatebringer with it. It hits like a truck after the handcannon buff
I'm hyped for Elsie's Raifu just for Zen/Headseeker in PVP, that sounds like a headshot 2 burst magnet. That, Mountaintop, Edge Transit and Hammerhead are probably the ones I'll be hard grinding god rolls for.
all i wanted is midnight coup annnnnd cant even get it for ages .... love it
Best part of the envious assassin to cascade point swap, that means you can dump most of, if not your entire reserves in a single bait and switch proc, which sounds absurd to me. Instantly made me the most excited about edge transit lmao
the only problem is that it doesn't autoload, it could be fixed with hunter dodge, shuriken or icarus. Either ways it'll probably have better dps than any other gl, even manually reloading
@@ivantarjan7360 it doesnt need to it can empty out almost all of its reserves
KT/Frenzy on the blast furnace is interesting to me. I feel like there will be anti-synergy with KT/firefly where KT will take the last hit and get in the way of firefly.
I think there were a few interesting perk rolls that are worth discussing:
- Blast Furnace can get the improved reload with Firefly, and the AoE should proc Shoot To Loot. S2L/Dragonfly was my favourite roll on a lot of weapons, notably Wolftone Draw, and I think it'll be a nice quality of life combo for low end content.
-Luna's Howl get a reworked version of Magnificent Howl that basically gives you turbo bullets for getting headshot kills and then reloading, and it's based on how many kills you get before reloading the mag. It also says that when it's active, headshot kills extend the duration. It sounds like Subsistence will help with getting that perk cranked on the first reload, and also for keeping it active for long chain headshot kills (again in lower level content). If you're looking for something fun to pull out in playlist strikes, that'd do it. I'm a huge fan of the old Subsistence DMT roll that you can't get anymore, so I'm definitely farming that one among others.
At least we can still get them after final shape drops, that’s a plus
For the PvP mains out there, blast furnace with headseeker and kill clip effectively turns it into a high impact pulse rifle with more forgiveness. Definitely will be something you'll want to go for if you grind PvP often at all.
Headseeker/Firefly looks fun in 6’s🤠
@@derek3154 Definitely could be. It'll 100% be the new king of pulse rifles though regardless. Both in availability and power.
@@ValiantNomad from the stream it had no recoil🦾
Just for clarification everyone - the remaining weapons will come out one week at a time for 6 weeks following April 9…. 6 weeks from then to may 21 which is equal to guns remains. So last weapon will drop on may 21
thanks datto
The Falling Guillotine with chain reaction is very OP to get to wave 50, I got one yesterday and it carried me
Re: Envious/Cascade, I don't see why it wouldn't, mag perks stick around after perk switch, and reservoir burst also sticks around on perk switch.
Even if it wasn't possible, so long as you have some way to reload your weapon instantly, cascade and BnS is being hyped up to be amongst the highest dps you can achieve in general with any legendary weapon. They dialled up the grenade launcher fantasy with this one. And keep in mind that BnS grenade launchers already had peak total damage, so in general they decided to make that weapon specifically incredibly cracked
I think it's less "will it work" and more "will Bungie try to stop it from working down the line".
It’s not about disappointment it’s about availability. The limited edition skin for random drops will be less available because the they will literally be less available for the time between 4/9 and Final Shape.
Recombination Succession is GOAT'd in Gambit imo.
An excellent anti-invader if you've got a crazy ad-clear build centered on on your energy primary.
They should’ve brought back Vanquisher VIII instead of Hung Jury imo
Since you can get multiple perks in a column, you in theory could fill ambitious on edge transit, then switch to cascade point before damage…
I will say for Falling Guillotine, for solo dungeon runs Vorpal/Bait and Switch with a double special could come in handy for some bosses.
And for Hammer Head, I’m gonna hunt for Rewind/Killing Tally for my void Hunter, and Envious/Target Lock for DPS if it’s needed.
gyrfalcon hunters really dont care about repulsor brace + destabilising rounds, because the destabilising rounds are already built into the exotic, that combination is more so for anyone not playing void at all
Hopefully the Origin Trait will stack with other perks, have a Demo + Wellspring Forbearance with the Origin Trait and spam off abilities.
Forbearance with wellspring demo and the origin trait would be insane at giving grenade energy
Thanks for the opinion
I wish they would add all weapons in the pool on the release. this is great for all players. the following week limit to specific weapons
Hey Datto! I just wanted to touch on the Hung Jury statement. They could have brought back the Oxygen (cant remember the redt of the name) scout esepcially now with the origin trait. I think it would have brought back a lot of nostalgia for many players! But I digress.
Mountaintop with auto-loading holster + recombination could be crazy.
Hammerhead I think I'm going for feeding frenzy + killing tally.
Reconstruction already auto-reloads over time, plus, ambitious assassin plays much better, especially when paired with Recluse, all while allowing another perk slot for something like hot swap or something
@@just.a.jester8233 recombination, not reconstruction :)
@@just.a.jester8233 ambitious assassin would be a really good shout, you're right
Midnight Coup: Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors MIGHT proc KT in half as many shots, if the round itself and the explosion damage count separately. Will be looking to try that one out.
The thing about the Recluse is 2 builds really make it shine with Repulsor Brace - Any void warlock, I've been having so much fun with void Verity's Brow, but it would also do great with Contraverse, Nothing Manacles, Briarbinds, even Nez Sin.
But another build I think the Recluse truly shines with, is going to be void Armamentarium titan. But any void warlock/titan build that capitalizes on grenade spam is going to absolutely eat good with a repulsor/frenzy Recluse, it feels too good. My personal god roll is hammer-forged, ricochet rounds, range masterwork, with repuslor/frenzy. It feels fantastic and with volatile rounds, it can get a little crazy on void warlock with Feed the Void.
Honestly I just hope they decide not to time gate these weapons. I’ve got other games I wanna play that also treat my time better than Bungies abuse. But here are the rolls I’m going for
Forbearance: unrelenting and golden tricorn
Succession: reconstruction and recombination
Falling guillotine: I’ll probably skip not much of a swords guy and the sword I do have are enough for me
Recluse: feeding frenzy and destabilizing rounds
Mountaintop: either overflow or auto loading and vorpal
Hammerhead: destabilizing rounds and onslaught but I may just skip it.
Blast furnace: I’ll probably skip this one as well but if I do feel like it I’ll get kinetic tremors and firefly
Transit: envious and bait and switch I could use a gl with those perks since I don’t play trials
Luna: heal clip and incandescent
Midnight coup: firefly and zen moment
What feels like the 50th time hung jury has reentered the chat: I’ll will try out rewind rounds and precision instrument
Elsie’s rifle: rewind and headseeker.
word of crota with destabilizing rounds and its origin trait does really well in dense add situations, but testing will need to be done
Blast furnace with kinetic tremors and one for all sounds fun 👍 not sure if the damage buff works on the tremors though
It doesn't, but still good
Forbearance: Demo, Wellspring or Chainreaction with the origin trait could be good for ability regen.
Succession: Discord, Recombination would be good for a Stacking buff to burst majors without spending ammo.
Fallen Guillotine: Vorpal, Frenzy with Surrounded, Bait and Switch.
Midnight Coup: Explosive Payload, Shoot to Loot with Kinetic Tremors, One for All. Explosive could good for both Kinetic Tremors might proc with less shots, Shoot to Loot Kinetic is a classic, Explosive and One for All is just damage.
Recluse: Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds. Subsistence and Master of Arm.
Mountain Top: Auto-Loading and Frenzy or Recombination.
Edge Transit: Cascade Point and Bait and Switch. Though Chain Reaction and Deconstruct could be interesting for add clear, could possibly make an infinite ammo heavy.
Hammer-Head: Rampage and Killing-Tally or Onslaught. Destabilizing Rounds could be interesting instead of Rampage.
Blast Furnace: Kinetic Tremors and One for All.
Luna's Howl: Heal Clip or Subsistence and Incandescent or Heal Clip Magnificent Howl.
Hung Jury: Kinetic Tremors, Explosive Rounds or One for All. Same reasons as Midnight Coup.
Elsie's Pulse: Repulsor Brace and Desperate Measures or Destabilizing Rounds.
Alot of interesting rolls on these weapons. Trying to get unique rolls on the returning raid weapons.
I'm super curious about Explosive/Tremors too. Could be amazing for one week and then get patched if it works.
@@Michael-ee4uzwhy would it get patched? Its obviously intended
Midnight coup and M-top are my top two. I like smgs anyways more so recluse is there but i didnt really play black armory so idk about Blast or Hammerhead. Im liking these weapons i wish did took the scout from Leviathan instead of Hung Jury. I think its concurrent
Falling Guillotine: I wonder how Frenzy + surrounded would be. I imagine in any situation you'll have surrounded, Frenzy might be on by default as well.
Recluse: Deffinetly getting a destabilizing + Repulsor roll for my invis hunter PvE build.
Hammerhead: Looking for a Feeding frenzy + onslaught for fun, but yea a lot of other good tools there.
Luna's: Looking at that incandescent + heal clip would be nice for solar builds, Heal Clip + Mag Houl could be nice for Luck Pants Hunters in PvE.
Midnight: Exp payload + one for all could be nice but lots there IMO for PvE or PvP
I ran some numbers on Aegis' spreadsheet, and found Vortex frames really need a buff.
Using Death's Razor as a stand in (it is also a Vortex Frame with Enhanced Surrounded), it has 105k dps with e.surrounded (assuming a perfect 1H2L combo, which requires 3x Lucent Blades). Adding Frenzy puts it at 121k.
Using light attacks only with a bequest that has e.surrounded, you get 124k. the same combo on bequest does 139k.
Guillotine also loses out on Relentless Strikes to reach this dps, widening the already massive gap in total damage.
midnight coup is going to be fucking OP in pve with explosive payload + kinetic tremors, your just delusional if you think otherwise
@@randomguy1706 If you would read, you'd see I said "lots there IMO for PvE or PvP" for the Midnight Coup.
Just didn't feel listing a roll pretty much EVERYONE is already exited about.
Hullabaloo for the guardian games was the new Edge Transit. i got 4 or 5 of those for every one of the other two. they were really pushing out that thing. thank god i was able to grind out the rolls on wanted on Title and Tarax. granted it took all three weeks for both. got the Hulla roll i wanted on day two and a bilzillion others i broke down.
Harmony Mountaintop with MOA recluse is gone be so good dude. Just constant damage and you can switch back and forth. Void hunter also having Volatile is just gonna be Nuts. That and hammerhead is gonna be so good I won’t need an exotic
Love all of these coming back...but the lockout is going to screw me if the one I'm waiting for is in those last two weeks of releases as I'll be gone for multiple weeks to end may and into june
I bet Hammerhead will be last and Blast Furnace will be second to last. 😑
I'm definitely curious about zen moment/rapid hit on the blast furnace for PvP as a workhorse weapon
@Datto what's your take on backup mag swapping and perk swapping before dmg? Its looking like you may be able to get an envious/cascade point roll with BnS on edge transit. Swap to cascade before dmg and get the benefits of 3 perks.
To take it further if that roll also had a mag boosting perk and spike you could use backup mag to get 25 in the mag with envious and then swap to spike and boss spec.
Lunas howl has been a 140 since the beyond light changes and before that it was changed to a 150
Forbearance getting power crept by forbearance shows how much better it is
It pretty much has the same perks as before with one or 2 new ones for both collums right?
Eh, it depends on how much ability energy the new origin trait gives.
A big part of old forbearance was the healing you constantly got, it was like having half a devour on reload, which with forbearance you do a lot of.
So if the new trait isnt good enough og forbearance will still be better imho
@@smurphy55656its not a big deal for more casual players but for people i know and for myself the demo chain roll when its enhanceable will just be better
@@Vaultyboi22 I mean for casuals the new forb prolly isn't worth it unless you dot have vow but for a lot of endgame players the new forb will be better when enhanced perks come out
@Sione_d2 I don't think casual players are gonna turn away what is probably the most powerful wave frame in the game even with chain reaction getting a nerf in final shape whatever kind of nerf it will be Id imagine it's still going to be extremely potent
as a gyrfalcon hunter
as soon as elsies rifle was revealed as void, i was hoping for it to get loose change in the fourth column so i could do repulsor + loose change. unfortunate to see it in the third column :(
I think Firefly and Rampage on the Midnight Coup will be fun as a legendary Ace for PVE
First item that dropped for me was an Envious Assassin Bait and Switch Edge Transit. Well I guess the search is over.
Ladies, gentlemen, all gerfalcon hunters!!!! WELCOME TO THE FEAST!!!
be going for the demo chain on forbearance that isnt available on the vow version and ill keep my vow version for ambitious chain
Destabilizing rounds rework idea. Keep the explosion and give the gun volatile rounds based on how many enemies was hit by the explosion.
Wish we got oxygen SR3 back with incandescent and firefly instead of hung jury, again. That would have been awesome in this sandbox.
17:28 ambitious assassin + frenzy for Mountaintop… ambitious is obvious…. Frenzy for damage and reload. Plus the self damage reduction on micromissle frame this around will make it way more user friendly. Coming back way stronger than when it was sunset.
Rampage + Killing Tally + Actium sounds like it'll go hard.
Is frenzy, kinetic tremors not a decent role for the Blast furnace? A reload perk and damage perk AND kinetic tremors on top of that?
Over under tap the trigger is gonna be a great PvP machine gun with how big over shields are right now
Oh I would have loved the chat if they had mentioned the timegate during stream
People need to understand that the timegated stuff isn’t a bad thing. This makes the loot pool smaller, so it’ll be even easier to target farm for that godroll you want.
At the end of the day, you’re not missing out on anything. People should be grateful we’re getting anything at all with the delay.
Yeah but the entire gimmick of onslaught is that you can select the gun you want to target farm. Doesn't really matter if there's 6 or 12 weapons in the pool if you have your focus set to the one you want. Drip feeding us like this just makes the later weapons more annoying to grind for since you have less time to get the shiny version
Aye Datto, I finish school around May 21. All the reason to postpone getting hyped and wait until I can get my full grind on when exams are over.
I understand a lot of folks will be upset, and 3-4 years ago that was definitely what I would be feeling, but there could be NO new content until TFS. Just sayin’.
Once we don't have so many good solar artifact mods to abuse, it is SO Gyrfalcon time
5 words. Recluse, Destabilizing Rounds, Repulsor Brace.
@@ValiantNomad rip those that farmed the title lol
@@MrRemi1992 Classy Contender is still a good pick for Gyrfalcon builds, so we'll see. I know I'll have fun trying both
@@ValiantNomad I have to be one of few people who thinks destabilizing rounds is one of the worst perks in the game especially for gyrfalcon hunters
@@MrRemi1992 And that Funnelweb god roll I focused with over 240+ engrams..
Forbearance can roll with the godly Demolitionist/Wellspring for Nade/Melee builds.
And then they can be enhanced. Love it
I still have gotten 0 Imperative drops from the Coil and Riven's Lair after being halfway through my 2nd reset on her reputation, so I really dont have any expectations on weapon drops at this point
I finally got my first unlock *this* week
stay strong
Exited for Elsie’s Rifle :D
I am curious how Impulse Amplifier and Frenzy pair together. If the reload speed is really nice I think it would be an absolutely fantastic roll for DPS situations where you have weapons like Dragon's breath on the heavy slot. Otherwise I think ALH and Frenzy with recombination as a back up option is the way to go. Frenzy for boss DPS and recombination for NFs and other activities where damage windows aren't timed.
so whatever the last weapon is, you only have 2 weeks to farm the ornament version??
My briarbinds warlock has been waiting for a void SMG that can roll repulser brace + Frenzy.
Yeah, I missed that on Title too. A shame because of it's origin trait Classy Contender.
Just hoping I’m not having to wait until the final week of the rotation before I can start farming rolls on Midnight and Blast Furnace.