My first impressions of Season of the Wish are... ok. But I'm MAD about something.

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  • Season of the Wish features what I think is a really fantastic seasonal activity in The Coil, which is mainly what we're gonna be talking about today. However, there was one thing completely unrelated to the season that really, really annoyed me.
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  • @getsomeeatz5648
    @getsomeeatz5648 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3826

    Datto yelling angrily is like hearing the nice teacher yelling for the first time😳

    • @shivernaut8607
      @shivernaut8607 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      now im excited

    • @episode389
      @episode389 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@JizzSock_ Forced?

    • @kutlumzrak2689
      @kutlumzrak2689 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      ​@@episode389nah.. it felt pretty real.

    • @swordmaster009
      @swordmaster009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Is it really that big a deal? He’s a person like everyone else, so I’m sure he gets mad at things. It’s not revolutionary.😑

    • @episode389
      @episode389 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kutlumzrak2689 yea that's what i thought too, i just posted that comment to reply to someone here that said his forcing it, i guess he deleted his comment

  • @Spike2276
    @Spike2276 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +666

    When you actually manage to summon Maddo, you know you fucked up

    • @_AniWatch
      @_AniWatch 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Maddo😭😭

    • @manray1739
      @manray1739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Matto

  • @nathanw2775
    @nathanw2775 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    You deserve the $15 "Goddamned Dollars"! Well spoken!

  • @abagofT
    @abagofT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1320

    That text on screen at the end really hits home, like you said Datto they really never learn. All the feedback in the world and after all the bad press, someone still decided that was a good thing to put in the store.

    • @erocyourflock19
      @erocyourflock19 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      That text at the end was savage

    • @nahqiv
      @nahqiv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Especially since what was needed is to bundle up all the expansions and such and decrease their price - not a completely pointless starter pack.

    • @CrestOfArtorias
      @CrestOfArtorias 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They did learn from Activision after all.

    • @juanroman71
      @juanroman71 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CrestOfArtorias moreover... its on the players at this point to literally quite criticizing them and deal with it or walk away. All players are doing is crying into the void. They have shown they dont care what players have to say... so at this point all players are doing is complaining. It's not criticism when they dont listen. Either be silent or quit playing the game. Last statement directed to the community as a whole not you specifically :)

    • @shaolinswords
      @shaolinswords 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@juanroman71 People are not going to (nor should they) just shut up and stop criticizing a poorly managed game that they care about. You're living in a fantasy world. Dumb take. L

  • @paladindoesd2
    @paladindoesd2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4250

    I don't think I've ever heard Datto be actually mad. That was intense! Love The Coil and the vibes of the season but that bundle is absolutely outrageous

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +254

      yeah he's always been pretty "it is what it is" on the monetisation but i guess with the way things have been for destiny and bungie this year, datto finally ran out of "it is what it is" and does not want to continue

    • @ExtraordinaryFate
      @ExtraordinaryFate 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

      @@dankerbell This was their chance to try to tell people they're not just a bunch of scumbags who laid off good people. But this indeed proves, they're a bunch of scumbags. Again.

    • @douglaswalker7707
      @douglaswalker7707 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      @@dankerbell and also considering we have no new exotic armor but they got the time to release more and more eververse bulllshit

    • @YatsuRL
      @YatsuRL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      The first thing that came to my mind the moment I saw the bundle was the 2015 video of datto talking about microtransacrions

    • @magetsalive5162
      @magetsalive5162 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      ​@@dankerbell
      Datto went from "It is what it is" to "It is what it is, and what it _is_ is *pissing me off"*

  • @JAM0LO
    @JAM0LO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2996

    The end part needed to be said, and well said it was. Thanks Datto as always

    • @magetsalive5162
      @magetsalive5162 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Gotta make up for that missed profit projection lol
      Is anyone seriously surprised these days? Like, honestly. Who even thought this was a genius idea?

    • @TheFallinhalo
      @TheFallinhalo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      yes it did need to be said.......YEARS AGO.
      thing is Datto just wasnt hard on bungie enough, they boiled him slowly and now hes realised hes been boiled alive and now hes pissed? PFFT YOURE PART OF THE GOD DAMNED PROBLEM DATTO!!!
      You decided to give soft tone Discouragement if not flat out excuses to bungie and so they decided to take it as passive endorsement.
      welcome to reality buddy.

    • @Shienso
      @Shienso 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @@TheFallinhaloYou act like dattos objective opinion holds real value to bungie so you can chill on that big ass comment

    • @SpadeOfNades
      @SpadeOfNades 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​​@@ShiensoYou don't get it. Datto's criticisms of Bungie, especially this year, were actually well constructed and thought-out. That's too much for certain people to handle.

    • @samkirkland5606
      @samkirkland5606 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s only $15 and it’s optional. What - you want them to lay more people off?

  • @MACKHAWKSS
    @MACKHAWKSS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +379

    datto has truly been the community leader for the past ten fucking years

    • @goon009
      @goon009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And look at where he's lead you...mediocrity. this is why you don't respect shills. They're are only critical when it is the popular opinion to be critical.

    • @ashcrash1057
      @ashcrash1057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@goon009datto rarely if ever gets this made about something. Blaming a content creator for bungies bad choices is dumb.

    • @goon009
      @goon009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ashcrash1057 you have lost the point

    • @ashcrash1057
      @ashcrash1057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @goon009 i was just saying that I don't think datto is jumping on a band wagon here, I think anyone is completely justified in being mad at this. It's a popular opinion, and frankly, it's the right opinion.

    • @Mnuano
      @Mnuano 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@goon009 Everyone has the right to make a 'point.' Some people will take others' side, and some will make their point. The 'points' that Datto mentions are obvious to a good portion of old players, but when some blueberries come, they either don't understand or simply don't want to put a lot of effort into the "boring" side of the game.

  • @WallKingDude
    @WallKingDude 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

    We've been blessed by Elitist Datto and Maddo in the same video, the crops will be bountiful this season

  • @jk5385
    @jk5385 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1314

    Never heard Datto soo upset before, that last couple minutes was spicy lol

    • @caseylamarca334
      @caseylamarca334 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      I'd be upset if i were him, Destiny is trying to squeeze every last drop of money on a sinking ship and lowkay taking Datto's career with it

    • @nealdolphin
      @nealdolphin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      He has good reason to be upset. Destiny is Datto's living, and Bungie keeps doing things that threaten his job. If players keep leaving, Datto might or might not be able to transition to other games and get decent monetization. I am certainly rooting for him however...

    • @andrewangeles283
      @andrewangeles283 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You should’ve heard him when they were releasing the first two expansions of this game and he was playing those half assed raids he was LITERALLY yelling he was WAY more mad than in this video

    • @PanoptesDreams
      @PanoptesDreams 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@nealdolphin He'll be fine, with his brains he'll slide into something else quite well.
      Plenty of other Destiny creators have done it, and have been better off for it.

    • @00Grimreaper00
      @00Grimreaper00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Can you blame him? That starter pack is a literal scam. Bungie clearly has not learned their lesson

  • @ekajjah2288
    @ekajjah2288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +380

    Honestly that point at 19:05 where datto rants about barrier to entry was actually super entertaining and kinda based.

    • @MazHazPazzaz
      @MazHazPazzaz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Not kinda based. Absolutely based and so fucking true

    • @Ceece20
      @Ceece20 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It needs to be brought up. The barrier to entry is absolutely huge and it constantly turns away new players. At this point, give every older expansion away for free with purchase of lightfall+annual pass.

    • @nukenade4623
      @nukenade4623 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i loved it and its the same thing i have to tell any friend of mine who thinks of trying it....."oh you want to try destiny 2. well you can do barebones things for free....or pay me £220 or more depending on how much you want, oh and the storys that come with some of those expansions...no longer exist"

    • @Ceece20
      @Ceece20 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nukenade4623 "Also be prepared for hundreds of hours of grind to just unlock exotic catalysts, just to be somewhat even with existing players"
      Yes I absolutely hate the needless grind for catalyst unlocks.

    • @fatusopp4739
      @fatusopp4739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Ceece20 honestly, catty's not obtained via quests or seasonal pursuits should just be given automatically and fully upgraded after 500-800 or so kills with the weapon. the seasonal pursuit missions need to be nerfed heavily as well, chipping away at playlist activities is ridiculous.

  • @Khalum
    @Khalum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    Angry Datto is probably one of the funniest and best things that's happened to Destiny in years

  • @RyanOConnell02
    @RyanOConnell02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +487

    Dude I fucking LOVE datto. Good content, Funny content, Good entertainer, even BETTER person and always speaks his mind. Well done bud

    • @MrBlue522
      @MrBlue522 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ooookay…

    • @MegaMLGgame
      @MegaMLGgame 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Glazing

    • @nandovee2025
      @nandovee2025 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ffs 🤮

    • @fatusopp4739
      @fatusopp4739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      doing backflips on it

    • @HighFiveGhostenjoyer428
      @HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MegaMLGgame Forrealium

  • @cjfries6648
    @cjfries6648 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +448

    Thank you for expressing your true thoughts in the last few minutes. We as a community need to push back on stuff like this and we appreciate you Datto.

    • @trenhen4311
      @trenhen4311 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I mean we do? I truly don’t know what the next option is. It seems to me as tho Bungie upper management has seemingly given up on the game and they’re now milking every last dollar they can from it. Even from a greedy business standpoint this is a straight up bad decision and u don’t need much foreknowledge to know that. We can’t say Bungie hasn’t always been incredibly perverse and greedy I mean they hired a psychologist to make the game similar to gambling but this is just idek. At least they use to have a semi balance between “yea we want your money” and “here’s a fuckwad of enjoyable content for a reasonable price”

    • @H-Gen_ZerO
      @H-Gen_ZerO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trenhen4311 agreed, this is espically shown when you compare the marketing of destiny/destiny 2 to its only other real competitor Warframe. Warframe had a little issuse a while ago where they were going to let let new players buy there way through the story, and I believe it was $5 a pop for each quest in order to auto complete them as well as getting the rewards from said quests, but as of there most recent dev stream (i believe dev stream 175) they retracted that statement and instead just made the quests easier to start and to complete with no additional fees. This of course is also not even talking about the massive amount of content there is in the game all for the very steep and horrid price of free. Now there a good chunk of problems with Warframe such as the massive time sink that is without a doubt bigger than a destiny 2 time sink and the need to farm things with 0.001% chance of dropping, but besides that Warframe constantly shows that it cares more about its community than Destiny 2 as of late, and I don't think its the dev fault like you said i think its the higher ups just trying to get penny they can from new and old players so they can eventually abandon destiny all together and go on to new projects where the can continue the process (even though i really don't want to see that happen to devs that care about there players)

    • @expressvpn8433
      @expressvpn8433 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trenhen4311fuckwad? That’s an extreme exaggeration. We get reskinned content with 1 new activity per season lol.

  • @Doctor_kush
    @Doctor_kush 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +619

    The best bit about the coil for me is you can go in solo or with just one friend because it scales in power with the fireteam :)

    • @user-hr1ob2fb6d
      @user-hr1ob2fb6d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

      Yeah I like that as well. I do think they should remove the “drifting apart” debuff for solo players though because it doesn’t go away without another player to stand near. I’m sure the modifiers are rotating, just thought that part was a bit annoying.

    • @chunkyrabbit1032
      @chunkyrabbit1032 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      ​@@user-hr1ob2fb6dtogetherness is such an awful modifier imo and I hope they remove it someday

    • @emyron1843
      @emyron1843 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@chunkyrabbit1032they always put the worst modifiers on seasonal activities, get ready for the next two weeks to have Grounded and Attrition

    • @kwoni3337
      @kwoni3337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Oh nice, I was worried as I'm a solo scrub and the idea of it being the most challenging seasonal content doesn't sound great to me. With the ability to actually play solo, meaning I'm not letting down other people and can kinda figure it out at my own pace instead of feeling like I need to know the entire thing by heart on my first run, makes it at least a little bit more approachable.

    • @jon-michaelfarrah4512
      @jon-michaelfarrah4512 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      whats?? thats awesome!

  • @Ian_Standley
    @Ian_Standley 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I have never heard Datto get this mad before in my life. Pretty shocking, but needed to be done. You could hear it build as he kept talking about it.

  • @Kill3r55_
    @Kill3r55_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    18:36 was phenomenal. I thoroughly enjoyed this. It needed to be said.

  • @Braydzz
    @Braydzz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    Datto: Pick up the shards.
    Randoms: No I don't think I will.

  • @shaggy7327
    @shaggy7327 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

    Don't hold back Datto, tell us how you really feel.

  • @sooperspeedy
    @sooperspeedy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    For anyone running The Coil, it has the same modifier as legendary campaigns where it scales the difficulty based on your fireteam size. I ran the private version as a duo and it wasn’t insane but still challenging. Ended up getting a platinum clear without trying to

    • @dalektrekkie
      @dalektrekkie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Even at 3, it honestly isn't that bad as long as you focus up and don't waste revives early on. Some encounters are bound to suck up revives in the 3rd and 4th runs so if you can keep most of them up to that point then you should be fine as long as you realize the difficulty level that you're playing at. As for paItinum, I can't say for certain that my teammated didn't kill a glass hoarder at some point, but I can say that I personally only saw one and it was late enough in the run that chasing after it would've only gotten me killed so I let it go and we still got well over platinum score that run

  • @goat6990
    @goat6990 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

    Hearing Datto get genuinely angry is like when everyone's favorite chill teacher gets upset at the class
    Good on Datto for calling that BS out

  • @zane433
    @zane433 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    Intense but well said rant. Powerful stuff - rings so true. Another absolutely tone deaf move from Bungie when we desperately need new blood to keep our beloved game alive and thriving.

  • @sea4524
    @sea4524 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +421

    Me walking into this video and expecting a normal chill datto talk: 👍
    Me hearing datto actually get mad for the first time on youtube: :😈

  • @stevekeeling7988
    @stevekeeling7988 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +162

    From one destiny vet to another, thank you for the last 60 seconds or so.. Well said

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Other people have been saying this for years

  • @TheLastOmnitect
    @TheLastOmnitect 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Glad for the first impressions and for your candor, Datto. Cheers, and see you out there!
    (And yeah, the last 2 of so minutes hit hard and true 😅)

  • @nobody522
    @nobody522 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +403

    Glad I can have an optimal first impression of the season

  • @deathwing860
    @deathwing860 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +373

    A quick heads up for the Coil activity. Platinum rewards don't go of of score, it all is tied to chests and the max score required for the last chest to open is 100k. The glass collector is not required, but it gives you some room for mistakes. In order to get the first chest you have to get to 7.5k, which means that you have to get ALL the pots in the first room (after the first drop in the platforming encounter look to the left of you, you will see 2 pots in there). Also as a quick tip: Void Titan with peregrine grives one shots wizards in both the ogre and the last knight fight, use that it makes the fight so much less of a headache.
    And remember: "GET ALL THE POTS"

    • @brainer5457
      @brainer5457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Finally someone recognizing the power of peregrine. Also, why are you in the Destiny universe O'fearsome Deathwing.

    • @IcorthwasTaken
      @IcorthwasTaken 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Remember, *Do Pot*

    • @jareddepew1467
      @jareddepew1467 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brainer5457lol peregrine got a mild nerf this season. Everyone knows it’s good.

    • @Strohseph
      @Strohseph 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jareddepew1467 Because you have to be airborn for a second now? Nah it got a huge buff actually with the increased damage and melee energy on higher level enemies.

    • @diegonnc
      @diegonnc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feeling like zelda rn

  • @jacobs4
    @jacobs4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Been watching Datto since D1Y1 and have NEVER seen him go off like this. they deserve it. king shit

  • @Cepv34
    @Cepv34 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Final minutes were amazing I have never seen datto this angry ever, but he has absolutely reason to be

  • @davidgolledge140
    @davidgolledge140 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +484

    Love the emotion Datto. Well said. They have priced themselves out of attracting new players which are the lifeblood

    • @Parallelocam
      @Parallelocam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Old players too. I'm not paying $15 just for the coil activity, the rest is completely throwaway including the story beats. They price gouged and won, but it will destroy them in the long term. If they're not already working on a new engine they're toast. Idk why anyone thinks we need all these sandbox changes instead of more content, feels like they're wasting time on stuff nobody cares about.
      In 2022 battlefield fell
      In 2023 cod fell
      In 2024 destiny will fall
      Consumers no longer have brand loyalty
      Don't want it to but zero faith in them having the resources to create another banger

    • @The_Wailing_Doom
      @The_Wailing_Doom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Parallelocam
      COD fell? Please elaborate. That's music to my ears.

    • @enzysound6029
      @enzysound6029 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The_Wailing_Doom just look at mw3 reviews its really bad

    • @FoxEmblem01
      @FoxEmblem01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@The_Wailing_Doomoh, dude, mw3 sold horribly and has been received horribly. it's literally shit

    • @kevvillanueva2660
      @kevvillanueva2660 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FoxEmblem01to elaborate, it was leaked on accident that the whole game that they added in was meant to be a DLC for MWII and people got pissed. Doubly so after (spoilers) a main character died so anti-climactically. Not even a major death scene with tears and shit, just poof, gone, dead, let’s throw the ashes into the wind and then kill another guy that’s not responsible for unclear reasons.

  • @Dark0niro
    @Dark0niro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

    The funniest part about the starter pack is that, not only are they giving you a piss poor amount of materials, but its best weapon (Simil) is already free and buying Shadowkeep through keys can potentially give you the other 2 exotics for 1/3 of the price with all the DLC content, including the mini-campaing. Great job suit guys, you did it again

    • @O-bearer-mine
      @O-bearer-mine 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      That starter pack is such a scam I'm surprised it ever left the fucking boardroom, it's a complete con to sell that

    • @emilsingapurcan8054
      @emilsingapurcan8054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      As someone who enjoys those weapons and would love for my friends to have them...
      Why arent forsaken pack and shadowkeep free at this point for the love of my ass. This just isnt okay. This isnt fucking okay. It is so hard to be optimistic about bungie and this game that was a big part of my life that even if i managed to tear myself away from, still allow myself to enter now and then... just no. Like, im not gonna leave the game but once again, im reaffirmed in not giving another CENT to bungie.
      Damn, the new activity does look like something id enjoy though...
      But im not buying TFS or any eververse items. Dungeon keys are hot garbage and as much as i do wanna get them im holding out hope that community outrage eventually gets bungie to put them into the expansions theyre from.
      I mean come the fuck on...

    • @Nienna_Asyare
      @Nienna_Asyare 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What’s Simil? Of the three, I see Ruinous Effigy, Traverler’s Chosen, and Sleeper Simulant
      Was it a typo of the last one?
      Also wait there’s a mini-campaign? What did I miss lol

    • @luffy7seas
      @luffy7seas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Nienna_Asyaresimil is just a shorthand for sleeper simulant

    • @fenris_wuffy
      @fenris_wuffy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@emilsingapurcan8054 its crazy that bungie wants Destiny to be a "MMO" but they refuse to follow the DLC cycle that most MMOs use. New expac is paid, old expacs become part of the base game. yeah i know most MMOs are sub based, but still, its outrageous that old dlcs are still 30 to 50 dollars

  • @seanmurphy7845
    @seanmurphy7845 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Honestly the Coil feels like a fantastic evolution of Deep Dives, love it.

  • @vitorschultz9892
    @vitorschultz9892 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like coming back to this video from time to time.

  • @salvucci91
    @salvucci91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    18:36
    *GO OFF KING*
    I try to keep my criticism as objective as possible, and give credit when credit is due, but holy hell is Datto spot on with this feedback. They apparently will never learn. The ones signing off on these decisions will also likely never bother to watch a video like this, and if anyone close to them does and brings it to their attention, I imagine they have a multitude of mental gymnastics and justifications that they run through to avoid facing the truth.

    • @christ2.020
      @christ2.020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Big agree

    • @sleepercellactivated353
      @sleepercellactivated353 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      lol yeah this was really satisfying to hear. This is the benefit of not feeding into negativity at every turn for clicks. When you do call something out, it hits so much harder.

    • @varisrevolver4061
      @varisrevolver4061 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also the message at end, perfectly encapsulates how angry Datto got

    • @KitsuneKiera
      @KitsuneKiera 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jokes on anyone if they believed any of the propaganda bungie put out saying ‘oh we’ll change’ they never will.

  • @dennylafoss
    @dennylafoss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +321

    I just can't get over the fact that it's been 5 years and 400-500$ in content since this game has gotten a new round of enemies

    • @xXSyntaxErrorXx
      @xXSyntaxErrorXx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

      small indie dev please understand

    • @Soldiersstain
      @Soldiersstain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Joe's talked about this before. They aren't going to introduce new rank and file enemies we just obliterate, which is why they focus on big dudes like tormentors and lucent hive etc.

    • @xXSyntaxErrorXx
      @xXSyntaxErrorXx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      @@Soldiersstain we obliterate tormentors and lucent hive
      even if they are just reskins with slight mechanics changes it goes a long way in making the game feel fresh
      warframe has no problem adding more enemy types and factions constantly, no reason bungie can't do it (they don't do it because they can't monetize it)

    • @dennylafoss
      @dennylafoss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@Soldiersstain every year they charge you 50 -100 bucks for content, thats more than a whole new game.... but the content you keep paying for is like 10 percent new

    • @cloudstrike5225
      @cloudstrike5225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@xXSyntaxErrorXx I don't think it worth the resources to make the a story, or put any resources on new enemies. Bungie already need to fix what they have

  • @gunmaster260
    @gunmaster260 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Datto, just crushing it like always. Great video and an even better ending!

  • @dukiwave
    @dukiwave 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Deep dives, spire, and the coil were almost definitely designed with in-game LFG in mind. Most of the negative feedback is a result of not having that feature, and not a problem with activity itself.

  • @iulianjln9486
    @iulianjln9486 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    Out of all the bad things about the game you couldve gotten a reaction of Datto for, I didnt expect the starter pack to finally do it but hey, glad to see him put his foot in the door about it.

    • @ShammityShamSham
      @ShammityShamSham 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well it's not a starter pack. It's another retarded cash-grab from the greedy cunts on the board at Bungie. The expansion that two of those exotics come from is SIX DOLLARS right now in the sales. Then you just gotta earn 2 ciphers and 2 golfballs to buy them. Complete bullshit.

    • @LunaPPK
      @LunaPPK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ikr he was quiet and shit for all the other trash shit bungie has done monetization wise but suddenly this the wake up lol

    • @Zaidy_Waidy
      @Zaidy_Waidy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He has always said that if they ever make it "pay to win" then he would get mad, it's not even really pay to win but it's close enough, and it's the dumbest thing they could have done in the situation that they're in.

    • @LunaPPK
      @LunaPPK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Zaidy_Waidy its been p2w for awhile and he has been mute around it all cross even jabbed at him in a video about it. OP os not worng

    • @oxsila
      @oxsila 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why do you think he's so mad? He's given the benefit of the doubt for so long. There eventually comes a breaking point. Asking new lights for money for guns that aren't even that good and they can earn free anyway is just too far. I get you're salty that Datto didn't mald over every previous thing you malded over but just look at reality for a second. Season of Plunder literally gave free gear to new lights. Now they're charging money for it. It's finally gone TOO far.@@LunaPPK

  • @christophercarlson3183
    @christophercarlson3183 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Damn, I felt that on a level I haven't felt anything from in a very long time.

  • @foilpainterfantasyartist1711
    @foilpainterfantasyartist1711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn’t even know there was shards to collect, so thanks for the info!

  • @NailGrozdanic
    @NailGrozdanic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really liked you summary but the end was spot on !!!
    Tried myself to restart with a totaly new account just to see how far I get.. ond OH BOY.. so much money needed to catch up to where I am on my main so i just droped it...

  • @Forcer69
    @Forcer69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +247

    We’re all mad about something. I for one can’t see my forehead.

    • @Killyfan8
      @Killyfan8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get a job man

    • @charliezw3287
      @charliezw3287 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

    • @lisdexik5484
      @lisdexik5484 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I never thought that to be something that I would be mad about, but now I am.

    • @AvanAJ
      @AvanAJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Holy shit do you do anything besides lurk on destiny yt’er’s comment sections

    • @zackl4833
      @zackl4833 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      bro tries so hard to be funny in every destiny comment section to no avail

  • @VallornDeathblade
    @VallornDeathblade 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Thank you for explaining the Coil's shards and chests mechanics, that's a huge help.

  • @ivanperez6201
    @ivanperez6201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done on this one. You always hit the nail on the head. When I saw the starter pack come up I immediately thought "Datto is going to lose his shit over this".

  • @PornoBense
    @PornoBense 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:33
    Couldn’t have said it any better!! Thanks for it

  • @generalnawaki
    @generalnawaki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    7:59 its a seven month long season, even if you don't try very hard just doing the seasonal activity once or twice a day will get you all the crafted weapons long before the season is over. don't rush and don't burn out Guardians.

    • @ThatLazyyGuy
      @ThatLazyyGuy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      well said

    • @talia_al_gabagool
      @talia_al_gabagool 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah just vibe. Enjoy the content when you can. Don’t spend weekends farming. Enjoy the game and play something else every once in awhile.

    • @MichaelHazell
      @MichaelHazell 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It is too late. I think a lot of us have reached a stage of perpetual burnout and fatigue. The seasonal model is just stale and it shows here. Couple minutes of dialog, run x number of activities, talk to whoever again, claim engram at the end, listen to radio.
      Now we have to deal with all of this in a pretty terrible PvE sandbox due to the ability nerfs. It feels bad to play. The nerf to Throwing Hammer is the most brain dead method they could have chosen instead of nerfing the actual build that was causing them concern (dungeon DPS with Tractor Cannon, Synthoceps, etc.).
      It honestly makes me want to play the game even less. They are killing the fun in the game at a time when the game is already 'dying'. Would not be surprised if the player count drops even lower than before.

    • @highfivemistertorque4537
      @highfivemistertorque4537 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MichaelHazell good,drop more.bungie should ruin more abitlies so people stop whaling on destiny so bungo is forced to peak content like they did during the forsaken age

    • @Nienna_Asyare
      @Nienna_Asyare 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wish this was said to that person I saw using the ritual sword earlier xD
      Or that person my friend saw with the season pass ornaments (though those could’ve been bought, not a great choice if so imo) lol

  • @Gurdia
    @Gurdia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Yes I'm glad you mention how dumb the starter pack is. The fact that they couldn't even be bothered to throw in the current season with it said a lot. It's horrible, new players are gonna get tricked by it and be turned off from the game.

    • @thenedsmmachannel8970
      @thenedsmmachannel8970 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I could be wrong but they did something like this for Plunder and it came with the season for arc 3.0. They gave an exotic armor, dreaming city armor, and thunderlord but it came with the season! This is just blatant money grabbing and it's not even 5 buck its 15!!!

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@thenedsmmachannel8970 they did, it was the "gift from the thunder gods" (or something like that), and if i'm not mistaken the exotic armor they gave was actually pretty decent

    • @Fusible_1
      @Fusible_1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@thenedsmmachannel8970At least with plunder it was free. But this is just actually bs dude. Wtf Bungie.

    • @weebtrash3376
      @weebtrash3376 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@thenedsmmachannel8970Bungie seems to have this MO of always taking 3 steps back whenever they do something relatively decent.

    • @phinnos1130
      @phinnos1130 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@thenedsmmachannel8970 I remember this. The armour it gave also was pre set up with a decent build, especially for Season of Plunder. Was a great way to show build crafting to new players.

  • @moritzkosa
    @moritzkosa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amen!! Thanks so much for this rant! Nailed it ❤

  • @serafaye9705
    @serafaye9705 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    That ending escalated quickly but needed to be said lol. It'll be interesting to see Mara and "Crow" work together agian.

  • @Palgrave
    @Palgrave 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Damn $15 for a few exotics and a handful of pocket change is f*cking crazy

  • @Spacetortise
    @Spacetortise 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like the class just pissed of the super chill calm teacher. Holy shit go off Datto.

  • @MaAJuice
    @MaAJuice 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the end datto thanks for speaking up for the community

  • @weaverweav1114
    @weaverweav1114 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “What?! What did he say?! Make a second starter pack with sunshot,outbreak perfected, and bad juju?! That a fantastic idea!” - Bungie management

  • @bt9268
    @bt9268 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    The rage is well deserved. Thanks, Datto

  • @nealhorton4550
    @nealhorton4550 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this assessment. Played a little last night and for the most part, I am in. Favorite thing is vault access from the director! This is a win.

  • @splitlip100
    @splitlip100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing end to vid bro. Absolutely Ron point with that.

  • @TheCrossover369
    @TheCrossover369 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The note at the end was raw 😂

  • @luckmyst3r986
    @luckmyst3r986 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    Ngl Riven having a voice is really heart breaking for me, i loved the unique characterization of Ahamkara as wish dragons that tempt you with the voice of others :(

    • @progenitor_amborella
      @progenitor_amborella 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well I guess they still do very easily. I suppose it gives them more depth, but we don’t get to see it directly anymore unless it’s projected onto another character she trusts less. So… I get it.

    • @user-sd1xh3uu8r
      @user-sd1xh3uu8r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      True. but theres no need for deceit anymore. she knows she cant trick us, but maybe she might later on!

    • @BenLarge
      @BenLarge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm 99% bungie won't do it because it's an extreme amount of dialogue to record but it would be so cool if Riven was lying to us now and this is also just one of her thousand voices

    • @icicle_ai
      @icicle_ai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That was her Siren, what she used to manipulate uldren. It worked on him cause mara was everything to him (because she's a control freak) it's why we hear so many voices, there are so many that we care about

    • @arxidiax2arxidiax276
      @arxidiax2arxidiax276 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LITERALLY THAT WAS SO DISSAPOINTING

  • @jeffreylaisure3541
    @jeffreylaisure3541 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The rant at the end was with the watch, and spot on...

  • @MrEligamer
    @MrEligamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    beautifully done at the end

  • @kphishbaugh
    @kphishbaugh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    was just talking to my buddy about the coil. I think they should go all in on this looping gradually more and more difficult, rouge-lite-ish concept. Like do some more mechanically challenging encounters, more randomization, more perks/upgrades per encounter, maybe more interesting jumping encounters. Make some interesting rewards to chase, maybe higher tier completions means exclusive weapons/armor, etc. Then make some leaderboards for all time high scores or something. Then take all this and replace gambit - would be a cool mode

    • @Fire4ward
      @Fire4ward 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      And make it endless with enemies scaling up to +50 above your power. That way we can really flex our builds to the limit 👍

    • @BIGFESH
      @BIGFESH 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Holy shit I love this idea

    • @ReturnToNothingness32147
      @ReturnToNothingness32147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love that idea! Its pretty much a true hoard mode where the enemies gets stronger and smarter🤙🏽

    • @Flecco
      @Flecco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What you're describing is what I was hoping from the infinite forest before curse of Osiris dropped.

    • @contra8053
      @contra8053 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Try Warframe. We have exactly this and it is a pretty mid flex in current year. Your character goes up to level 30 and enemies go to level 9999. Level capping ourselves is how we test builds to see if they are viable.

  • @DarkPyroZero
    @DarkPyroZero 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +297

    I was really hoping to see Garden of Salvation loot becoming craftable

    • @seanl7503
      @seanl7503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same 😞

    • @udontknowme00
      @udontknowme00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      I wouldnt be surprised if its being saved for later in the season during the April content update

    • @karlcabaniya5317
      @karlcabaniya5317 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@udontknowme00 Or February, with Wishes and Age of Triumph.

    • @thesonicfanboi
      @thesonicfanboi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@karlcabaniya5317"so you're telling me there's a chance"

    • @chibilena463
      @chibilena463 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If they was going to do it they would of said so before the season even started.

  • @LeGiraffee
    @LeGiraffee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Last few mins were weirdly cathartic nice to hear the raw emotion. Feel like with how often people turn on him he sticks to facts/keeps it formal glad he let loose.

  • @deckofmany4719
    @deckofmany4719 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on trending Datto!

  • @stretchosaurus
    @stretchosaurus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "If Bungie DOES cross that line, you have my rage." And there we have it.

  • @gepdproductions
    @gepdproductions 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I love you Datto. Thank you for being a champion of the community. What you said needed to be said.

  • @TheDuke659
    @TheDuke659 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn that outro. Proud of you Datto!

  • @startrumped3377
    @startrumped3377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the ending brother. Preach it!

  • @pudda_7969
    @pudda_7969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    i had so much fun in the coil today. after the first round one of my (matchmade) teammates left because of the quest probably, so i was left with the other guy to continue. he was a stasislock, i was a caliban hunter. our 20ish remaining revives were wittled away until we had none left, (most of them the trap room lmao) which was also when we reached the final. it took a while, but after probably 10 minutes of chipping away at this boss we eventually knocked it out. it was perfect, we both got ascendant alloys, and we even friended each other afterward! the difficulty is very reasonable imo, and it took us an hour but with a full team i bet it would go by a lot faster. this was genuinely one of the most amazing non raid/dungeon experiences ive ever had in this game

  • @pauldavid2407
    @pauldavid2407 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I appreciate all your hard work Datto!

  • @Shoes8969
    @Shoes8969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    As of now, the ghost ship and sparrow are also exclusive to the Starter Pack, as well as there being a 1000 silver ($10) shader pack in Eververse.

  • @marinawolf
    @marinawolf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for that excellent breakdown of The Coil!

  • @Twhitlock235
    @Twhitlock235 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The ending of this video made my heart happy

  • @dankerbell
    @dankerbell 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    the datto gamer rage finally unleashed... we've won

  • @Denzo.J
    @Denzo.J 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video, great ending 👍

  • @ArtDadDraws
    @ArtDadDraws 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video Datto. I'll be skipping this season entirely, but I'll still be watching your stuff 🤝

  • @kashay4415
    @kashay4415 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The FF14 free trial is so insanely expansive a Bungie executive would probably pass out

  • @RoyaltonDrummer922
    @RoyaltonDrummer922 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Appreciate the hard work Datto

  • @yevinn-
    @yevinn- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the rant at the end and 100% completely agree!

  • @julianflores6618
    @julianflores6618 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review and about how I felt too. Definitely going to grind coil a bit. I wasn’t aware of the starter pack but it makes no sense. Complete 180 from the arc pack that gave weapons, armor, exotic armor and thunder lord for free and for all three characters 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @itsterra9381
    @itsterra9381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I hadn't really tried out coil, but it seems actually really sick. Will have to give it a shot with some friends to see how we handle it

    • @itsterra9381
      @itsterra9381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made this comment before I saw the ending. Good fucking god, Datto's anger is something else, but so incredibly necessary for the conditions

  • @darriangario3447
    @darriangario3447 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nickel and diming the blueberries slayed me

  • @Charm1ngCharlie
    @Charm1ngCharlie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the sign-off dude. Well said.

  • @dangerleader
    @dangerleader 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The absolute VENOM in Datto’s voice at the end there holy shit. Go off king.

  • @huntermocktar1746
    @huntermocktar1746 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Good, good. Let the rage flow through you.

  • @angrygamer6584
    @angrygamer6584 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I still think the tier 9 deep dive was the hardest activity. Coil wasent as hard imo.

  • @BetaMind
    @BetaMind 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My only issue with the coil was that after alters of summoning and the way the quest step was set up, it looked like an infinite going, leave when you want game mode. It was a fun surprise when we actually completed the coil for the first time but it sucks that there's going to be people like us who might not figure that out especially with the difficulty ramp up

    • @smilmultimod8603
      @smilmultimod8603 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I was hoping it'd be like SP circuit in WF if it was endless I'd play tf out of this

  • @DemonCipher13
    @DemonCipher13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Absolutely beautifully said, Datto.

  • @WaifuShork
    @WaifuShork 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wasn't entirely stoked for Blind Well. BUT, all the weapons that drop from it, have had their perk pools refreshed, and now come with a new origin perk, so I was really excited to see that. I know a lot of people just auto dismantle those things, so be sure to actually look at those weapons as they're now S23 equivalent and no longer dropping the old variants. Tigerspite now even drops with Kinetic Tremors which feels REALLY nice to use. Not sure what made them do the "silent refresh" of these weapons but it's greatly appreciated.

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The first Blind Well I did gave Dreaming City weapons. The second, third, and fourth completion ALL season 20 season of defiance weapons... what's up with that?

    • @WaifuShork
      @WaifuShork 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonahbrown5669 I’m pretty sure it gives from S20 to S23 weapons, including the dreaming city weapons. Along with dropping the engrams for those seasons. I’m guessing it was Bungos way of giving more incentive for playing blind well :3

  • @pouf875
    @pouf875 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the ending datto

  • @mashoga
    @mashoga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goddamn that end was great. Especially the text. Go off King

  • @raevenent751
    @raevenent751 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Could not have said it better myself. Soon as I saw that starter pack, the very thing I was concerned about became a reality

  • @dadankengine4661
    @dadankengine4661 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    That last minute and a half was amazing Datto. I gave up after lightfall + the ‘beware over-delivery’ conference and have been keeping up story-wise through TH-cam since then. I can only fathom the frustration you’re feeling rn. But hey, they got a nomination for best community support at the game awards! They must be doing good on that front! What a joke.

  • @sykosocial9
    @sykosocial9 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Damn Datto, I don’t think I’ve genuinely seen you this mad before. I agree with you 100% though and it’s completely warranted

  • @charlesciriello4014
    @charlesciriello4014 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have restored my faith in you!

  • @SamtheHam418
    @SamtheHam418 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Love the starter pack rant! Should be in a stand alone short as well so maybe Bungie sees it. 👍🏻

  • @shockman2178
    @shockman2178 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve enjoyed the coil, only made it to second stage but hey, I thought it’s a good difficulty and was a fun idea.

  • @laserlotus5
    @laserlotus5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your first and last impression videos, I watch a few different people every season to see what they think, it's fun.
    Actually, I started playing the season, got to the Blind Well part, and was like, Okay, Datto has a first impressions video, I'll watch that and play this but hopefully he says something about this blind well rehash haha.
    I didn't know about the starter pack, but this reaction is super powerful. I really hope people at Bungie who need to hear it, hear it. As you were saying what the pack consisted of I was like, okay, surely he won't go into a "pay to win" argument here... what's the problem, then you said $15. mind you, 15 American dollars. lol!! that's absurd, bro. The minimum wage in the part of Canada I live in, for an hour of hard work is $16.55, So... IDK Bungie... fucking figure out who your audience is.

  • @TheNexan_
    @TheNexan_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God, the speed with which I'd click a video showing Datto's facecam recording those last few minutes.

  • @BirdMoose
    @BirdMoose 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'll see how it feels in 3 weeks, but The Coil seems rad.

  • @alexwiedler5905
    @alexwiedler5905 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Listening to Datto blow up at the end made me so damn happy.