Regardless of the actual phone, ThinkPhone is a great name, and Lenovo/Motorola should use their Laptop name schemes for most phones. They can make a ThinkPhone (Light/Pro/Ultra) for flagship. IdeaPhone for budget-midrange. And maybe YogaPhone for flip/fold phones.
@@intensifies3362 I'm not saying that they don't have names currently, but I'm stating that consistent names with their laptop business would help brand recognition. Especially since Motorola was pretty dead over the last 8+ years, and current product names seem rarely recognizable and, let's be honest, names like Edge and Razr sound like something edgy early 2000s teens would come up with.
I don't know how I didn't know about this. As a life long Lenovo Thinkpad X1 carbon guy, this phone is PERFECT. Wish I wouldn't have just gotten that new iPhone that isn't that great.
I have this phone and it receives stable security patches every month. I don't use it for business nor did I pay full retail price. It's a solid device for someone that doesn't need a lot of extras but likes security. I've enjoyed using it.
@Oldasianguy I picked it up for $199 after trade in. Considered buying one last year but went with Razr Plus instead. I liked the Razr but the screen protector issues became a bit much for me to be concerned with. Plus, I like having consistent security updates and so far the Thinkphone has been every month.
1. Motorola ThinkPhone is a high-end phone inspired by Lenovo's ThinkPad laptops. 2. Targeted towards business crowd with extra security and durability features. 3. Aramid fiber back for extra durability and IP68 rating for water and dust protection. 4. 6.6-inch POLED display with 1080p resolution and fast 144Hz refresh rate. 5. Stereo speakers with Dolby Atmos support and an under-display fingerprint reader. 6. Powered by a Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1 chipset and has a large 5,000 mAh battery. 7. Triple-camera setup on the back with a 50MP main camera and 32MP front-facing camera. 8. Has extra security features like Think Shield and Moto Threat Defense. 9. Clean software experience with near-stock Android 13 and Moto features. 10. Main camera photos have good detail and colors, but finer details are soft. 11. Ultra-wide camera photos are decent, with good dynamic range and autofocus. 12. Front-facing camera has good detail and colors. 13. Videos in 4K are decent, but 8K footage is soft and muted. 14. A hardware button can launch apps, but is difficult to use with one hand. 15. Good alternative options include the Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus and OnePlus 11.
θα πάρει και android 15 γιατί εγώ το τηλέφωνο το θέλω για 5 η 7 χρόνια να το έχω ? Και φοβάμαι μήπως δεν θα έχω δικαιώματα μετά από κάποια χρόνια να κατεβάσω εφαρμογές από play story ? Στην ελλάδα είναι στα 450 αυτή τη στιγμή. Θα μου κάνει δουλειά για 5 χρόνια οι 7 χρόνια αν δεν μου σπάσει ?
Motorola really needs to crank their game up in software updates and camera, I find the overall build quality ok with moto phones in general but a massive letdown with camera and software updates.
They should just start doing a "thinkphone" version of their flagship like how Samsung used to do with their "Active" variants. There's good potential for creating a moto/lenovo ecosystem.
it's now available for around 600euro here in Europe, since I love the Thinkpad design and have most of my computer stuff in the Thinkpad/Thinkvision range I'm considering this one for sure. I prefer a premium design adn build quality over a super advanced camera.
it isnt meant for consumers. its a work phone, like the thinkpad is a work laptop. lenovo (or motorola) will most probably sell them in bulk for cheaper to logistics or IT companies which will have more use for these types of devices
I got my Thinkphone in January and love it. Batterytime is great, 1 1/2 day runtime is great and it´s finally a flagship with a flat display and no curved sh.... anymore. Camera is ok, not on par with a Galaxy s23 oder 22 but its ok for the usual snapshots. For me its awesome, the only thing problematic are the accessories. No many cases or accessories available. Overall for me a great device. So after 5 month I sold my Thinkphone and here is why. The device itself is great, battery life and overall performance spot on but Motorola never managed to fix the stuttering issue for the first seconds when recording video, no matter if 1080p or 2160p . Pictures at daylight are great but as soon as it gets darker the quality goes down the drain. Main problem with the phone is the accessory situation which is basically non existent. Yo do not get any decent case from one of the big names. Spigen; UAG, Supcase and others, NON of them have any accessories available so you are stuck with the useless case that comes with the phone (Kudos to Motorola because they replaced it twice.) because the edges break or you buy a 3€ clear case from Aliexpress because this is the only wothy one. There is also no decent screen protection available. Yes you can get some cheap glas on Amazon but they are worthless so save your bucks and buy yourself a beer. I would have loved to keep it but without any accessory that allows me to protect the device for a long run you either treat it like a raw egg or you get a phone with good support for accessories. A 150€ Samsung phone gets more support than a 999€ Motorola Phone, let that sink in.
@@mjzkul March security update came on Sunday, shortly after Google released it. So far so good. Both updates (February / March) came shortly after officially released by google but cant say anything long term so far but for the first 2 month it looks good and I hope Motorola keeps it that way.
@@jarvisjed ordered it here in Germany on the Motorola website. As far as I heard it isn't available to end user in some countries so can't really speak about that one.
Motorola/Lenovo needs to get its act together. The flagship Motorola Edge 30 Ultra is still waiting Android 13, due upgrades to make its 200mp camera decent, and improvements for Ready For that would make it really usable.
I'm waiting for the price to come down more, cause I really like this phone! It has all I care about in a great phone. Nice cameras, great speakers, and MORE THAN ENOUGH storage 256g!! I'm not some reject that has NO LIFE and lives on their phone 24/7.
@@JB-1184 I'm glad I didn't end up buying it... The speakers ARE LOUD, but they're tinny sounding crap speakers, Motorola just doesn't seem to care anymore 😞
I think for stress test, not only cpu performance but temperature would be great. Since this is not a gaming focused they should prioritized comfort temp instead of performance
Strange to call it Motorola. Lenovo owns Motorola and the ThinkPad brand. The ThinkPhone lineup should just remain under the Lenovo Brand and not be a sub-brand of Motorola
Wish they also made a midrange device: 1. Midrange Chipset instead of a flagship one (e.g. SD 778G or MT Dimensity 8100) 2. Lower IP rating (say IP56) 3. Gorilla glass 5 or 4 4. Headphone jack 5. Mono speaker 6. Priced between USD300-500
This phone would make a perfect T-EUD since we don't care about photo quality, another thing is how much software update we'll be getting, cause custom ROM are not always possible ! I'll probably ask Motorola a sample unit and more clarifications about software support, but other than that, the specs are exactly what we're looking for!
Excellent all-round review, thanks Will! Now holds the top slot in the "Nice but Pricey" category. Can't help thinking about all those Corporate types WITH EXACTLY THE SAME Device - that won't go down well in competitive circles! Black Razr23 instead?
I have over 4500 pictures,over 1100 videos and 1000 songs saved to my phone as well as over 100 apps and multiple games. I still have 70 GB of 128 free. If you use more then 256 gigs on a phone idk what you’re doing 😂 other then maybe recording a buncha 4K video but you could just move that to a computer?
@@iked4421 I'm just built different I guess. On just my internal storage I have 199Gb full. Plus using an SD card makes it faster and easier to transfer stuff to a new phone
This review (along with Lenovo/Motorola) should have highlighted the Ready For desktop mode much more. Being able to use the ThinkPhone *instead of* a laptop is very appealing. Instead of issuing and managing a bunch of laptops, just issue the phone and have USB-C hot desk setups to plug in and go. One device to rule them all. Ready For is better than Samsung DeX at this point, but Motorola is even worse than Samsung at promoting it. Focusing 1/3rd of a review of a business phone on the cameras rather than the productivity potential is a big miss.
All phone "reviewers" know how to do is whine about the camera while not discussing any actual selling points. First, Moto cameras are great if you aren't pixel peeping all day. Second, ThinkPhone and Moto Edge Plus are light and suave with massive batteries.
Lenovo Legion Y70 is only around 370USD and even lower priced now with similar specs to this, aside from minor changes which definitely not worth the 700USD extra for the Thinkphone.
I know this is a consumer focused channel but this phone is not really meant for this crowd. Lenovo will sell this phone IN BULK to businesses and they give huge discounts. And it's also meant to be managed by your company's IT dept. Camera is not really a priority (have a work phone and I rarely use it). Most important is good sound quality for calls and durability, which this phone has.
I consider this phone because it's on sale and for $400 offers Snapdragon 8+ gen 1 ( made by TSMC) without over heating problems. Newer Samsung S23 FE is also on discount but it has Snapdragon standard 8 gen 1.
I have this phone. I also have a Pixel 7. TH-cam videos are crisper on the pixel but I do think the certain pics look better on the think phone. I do love the infrastructure of moto, and think I might stick with them! I would use the think phone as my daily driver if the photos were better and the videos were crisper, other than that, I really enjoy this phone!
it's like a global version of Lenovo Legion Y70 phone. same specs. but the huge difference is the price. the legion y70 only starts at 400$ with a 8/128 variant.
The camera is an afterthought, similar to how the webcam on the thinkpads are an afterthought..Its built for the business world, designed to become the next blackberry for offices
@@carldrogo9492 Not arguing for it, just saying for people whose company will buy these for (obviously these are not made for personel purchase/use), these management types dont need a well performing camera.
I would upgrade from my Oneplus 7T but my main skepticism is the cameras and promised updates. Even at the sale price of $400 I still cant justify something that realistically is only an upgrade in storage and processor. My 7T still works perfectly fine speedwise aside from some quirks, some of which are just Android related and not the phone at all (annoyances with Google phone and messenger apps). While tempting, im going to stick with my 7T in hopes the S24 blows me away or something comes out like this Thinkphone with better cameras and software updates.
Again, a phone with no headphone jack and no SD card slot is just useless especially on a flagship. Flagships should be the ultimate maximum experience on a product line.
Yet not a word about the telephone or Wi-Fi reception. I remember how the original Moto X was praised as one of the five best mobile telephones of the year for LTE connection that beat Apple "by a country mile." Of course, not a word about its spotty 3G connectivity. My old 2020 Moto G could keep a 5 GHz Wi-Fi connection farther than the latest Apple could keep 2.4 GHz. Neither Lenovo nor anyone else bothered to test for that, either. It's a mobile radio. Test for radio connectivity, will ya?
Why do manufacturers keep adding useless dedicated buttons but can't seem to add a two stage camera button on the top right hand side (landscape)? The camera is one of the main reasons people upgrade phones. Some of us hate tapping at a screen and most people would enjoy it if they had the option to use a physical button.
I hear ya, but really, it depends on the business. Some, if not most due to today's work a good camera is necessary. Even as simple as attaching photos taken to an email.
If you buy a Motorola. You will go through the following phases: 1st stage: slightly disappointed as it does not meet expectations 2nd stage: you discover bugs and stability issues. Lots of them. Even on the flagships. 3rd stage: you start to console yourself that your purchase is good. An update will come to solve the issues. 4th stage: you realise the updates are not coming. 5th stage: you become terribly annoyed and angry 6th stage: you orchestrate a revolt against the customer care and bombard the Motorola forum with complaints 7th stage: you realise no amount of complaining will solve the issue. 8th stage: you realise you got scammed 9th stage: you advocate against the purchase of Motorola phones on TH-cam videos
Used motorola e3 power for 3 years, rugged phone, good battery. It feels snappy then, if only apps not demanding more phone resources i might use it longer.
Never had an issue with my Moto G Power. Dad never an issue with his Razr. Mum with what ever Moto phone she chose. My phone spends much of the day in hog bars... An environment so caustic we have to gut the interiors every five years due to corrosion. And the phone works just fine.
These can be had brand new for under 400 USD for a while now. At that price, it's a really solid phone, especially in 2024 where something like the Samsung A35 is 400 dollars brand new.
Many of you are missing the main point about this phone, it's not a flagship for entertainment ect... Just like the Samsung Xcover are working phones for corporate, retail, ect... This is like the Samsung Xcover line, same purpose, lower price point.
So terrible software support, average specs, nothing to make it really stand out and they're asking premium prices for it? This won't sell well at all.
Heyyo, I feel they missed an opportunity here by not illuminating the red i in ThinkPhone like they do on their ThinkPad devices heh... It does look like a decent device... But for the price does it still only get 2 years of OS updates and 4 years of security patches? That seems pretty weak these days, especially for a "business" phone where software updates and especially security patches are more important. Well I checked the Motorola website and it doesn't mention how many years of software upgrades only security patches... Currently receiving monthly security updates. Device launched on January, 2023 Security updates will stop on January, 2027 Launched On: Android 13 Next OS: Android 14 *This device will receive at least bi-monthly SMRs updates Please note: Channels and regions may have different launch dates and support cycle may vary.
Regardless of the actual phone, ThinkPhone is a great name, and Lenovo/Motorola should use their Laptop name schemes for most phones. They can make a ThinkPhone (Light/Pro/Ultra) for flagship. IdeaPhone for budget-midrange. And maybe YogaPhone for flip/fold phones.
Nice Idea
I'm sure they'll end up with something ridiculous of a name for their product when they could have gone with something as simple as what you're saying
motorola have razr for fold phones
@@intensifies3362 I'm not saying that they don't have names currently, but I'm stating that consistent names with their laptop business would help brand recognition. Especially since Motorola was pretty dead over the last 8+ years, and current product names seem rarely recognizable and, let's be honest, names like Edge and Razr sound like something edgy early 2000s teens would come up with.
@@mast3rchi3f47 Honestly, Motorola is one of the less guilty companies when it comes to this. Wait til you see the naming mess of Xiaomi phones.
I don't know how I didn't know about this. As a life long Lenovo Thinkpad X1 carbon guy, this phone is PERFECT. Wish I wouldn't have just gotten that new iPhone that isn't that great.
Motorola should also launch an update receiving phone. That would be a great idea.
Exactly
Yesss
lol😄
I have this phone and it receives stable security patches every month. I don't use it for business nor did I pay full retail price. It's a solid device for someone that doesn't need a lot of extras but likes security. I've enjoyed using it.
@Oldasianguy I picked it up for $199 after trade in. Considered buying one last year but went with Razr Plus instead. I liked the Razr but the screen protector issues became a bit much for me to be concerned with.
Plus, I like having consistent security updates and so far the Thinkphone has been every month.
1. Motorola ThinkPhone is a high-end phone inspired by Lenovo's ThinkPad laptops.
2. Targeted towards business crowd with extra security and durability features.
3. Aramid fiber back for extra durability and IP68 rating for water and dust protection.
4. 6.6-inch POLED display with 1080p resolution and fast 144Hz refresh rate.
5. Stereo speakers with Dolby Atmos support and an under-display fingerprint reader.
6. Powered by a Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1 chipset and has a large 5,000 mAh battery.
7. Triple-camera setup on the back with a 50MP main camera and 32MP front-facing camera.
8. Has extra security features like Think Shield and Moto Threat Defense.
9. Clean software experience with near-stock Android 13 and Moto features.
10. Main camera photos have good detail and colors, but finer details are soft.
11. Ultra-wide camera photos are decent, with good dynamic range and autofocus.
12. Front-facing camera has good detail and colors.
13. Videos in 4K are decent, but 8K footage is soft and muted.
14. A hardware button can launch apps, but is difficult to use with one hand.
15. Good alternative options include the Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus and OnePlus 11.
Accurate. Wish it were pinned because I could read that faster.
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Is the camera better than the one on samsung a54?
@@mecomingtomo6933 definitely not... it's horrible
θα πάρει και android 15 γιατί εγώ το τηλέφωνο το θέλω για 5 η 7 χρόνια να το έχω ? Και φοβάμαι μήπως δεν θα έχω δικαιώματα μετά από κάποια χρόνια να κατεβάσω εφαρμογές από play story ? Στην ελλάδα είναι στα 450 αυτή τη στιγμή. Θα μου κάνει δουλειά για 5 χρόνια οι 7 χρόνια αν δεν μου σπάσει ?
Thank You!! I wish they would make a regular consumer version, and keep the price under $600
This version aint even worth 600 dollars 😂
Neither are galaxy s models or iphones!! But dumbasses shell out $1500 to $200 for that shit EVERYTIME!
$2000***
@@G-Man4809 😂 I love iphones I get one each year ... What phone do you prefer ... Enlighten me please
No phone is worth $600!!!
It's just a phone!! Yet everyone pays for them. I would rather have the Thinkphone over ANY Samsung or Apple phone!!
Holy crap the Thinkphone has great sound 😲
Motorola really needs to crank their game up in software updates and camera, I find the overall build quality ok with moto phones in general but a massive letdown with camera and software updates.
Software works...
3 years of OS and 4 years of security patches. So far I have gotten monthly security patches and android 14. They’re doing much better with this one.
They should just start doing a "thinkphone" version of their flagship like how Samsung used to do with their "Active" variants. There's good potential for creating a moto/lenovo ecosystem.
Apple: 6 to 7 years of support
Samsung: 5 years of support
Motorola: 2 years of support for an $1100 phone 🤡🤡🤡
IT depts who will manage these phones for business will love that
Apple 2000
HMD stopped selling Nokia phones two weeks ago. Moto might not even be around two years from now.
@@maoinc13 2000 of what?
@EVO X $2,000, dang do you live in Australia or something
it's now available for around 600euro here in Europe, since I love the Thinkpad design and have most of my computer stuff in the Thinkpad/Thinkvision range I'm considering this one for sure. I prefer a premium design adn build quality over a super advanced camera.
399 on Amazon,us
I can't wait for the second version of this. Hopefully it's more premium & professional.
nica sarcas 👍🏼👍🏼
You want a phone made entirely out of glass?
A nice throwback to the Droid Maxx.
1100 euros for this, you gotta be kidding me
1000€ , I definitely won't buy it. Fuxk it.
And software support for I guess 1 to 2 years if lucky, in reality 1
ThinkPad aren't cheap for laptops too
it's not a phone for the typical consumers, like the Thinkpad laptops. So yeah, I'm not surprised about the price.
it isnt meant for consumers. its a work phone, like the thinkpad is a work laptop. lenovo (or motorola) will most probably sell them in bulk for cheaper to logistics or IT companies which will have more use for these types of devices
I got my Thinkphone in January and love it. Batterytime is great, 1 1/2 day runtime is great and it´s finally a flagship with a flat display and no curved sh.... anymore. Camera is ok, not on par with a Galaxy s23 oder 22 but its ok for the usual snapshots. For me its awesome, the only thing problematic are the accessories. No many cases or accessories available. Overall for me a great device.
So after 5 month I sold my Thinkphone and here is why. The device itself is great, battery life and overall performance spot on but Motorola never managed to fix the stuttering issue for the first seconds when recording video, no matter if 1080p or 2160p . Pictures at daylight are great but as soon as it gets darker the quality goes down the drain. Main problem with the phone is the accessory situation which is basically non existent. Yo do not get any decent case from one of the big names. Spigen; UAG, Supcase and others, NON of them have any accessories available so you are stuck with the useless case that comes with the phone (Kudos to Motorola because they replaced it twice.) because the edges break or you buy a 3€ clear case from Aliexpress because this is the only wothy one. There is also no decent screen protection available. Yes you can get some cheap glas on Amazon but they are worthless so save your bucks and buy yourself a beer. I would have loved to keep it but without any accessory that allows me to protect the device for a long run you either treat it like a raw egg or you get a phone with good support for accessories. A 150€ Samsung phone gets more support than a 999€ Motorola Phone, let that sink in.
Update status?
@@mjzkul March security update came on Sunday, shortly after Google released it. So far so good. Both updates (February / March) came shortly after officially released by google but cant say anything long term so far but for the first 2 month it looks good and I hope Motorola keeps it that way.
Where did you buy it? Been trying to find one.
@@jarvisjed ordered it here in Germany on the Motorola website. As far as I heard it isn't available to end user in some countries so can't really speak about that one.
@@r0tb3rt Thanks Sir. I hope I can buy one in the near future. :)
I love ThinkPads and I want this phone!
Motorola/Lenovo needs to get its act together. The flagship Motorola Edge 30 Ultra is still waiting Android 13, due upgrades to make its 200mp camera decent, and improvements for Ready For that would make it really usable.
Why do you want to upgrade to android. All updates do is break your app compatibility and eat up more phone memory with every update❗️💆
I'm waiting for the price to come down more, cause I really like this phone! It has all I care about in a great phone. Nice cameras, great speakers, and MORE THAN ENOUGH storage 256g!! I'm not some reject that has NO LIFE and lives on their phone 24/7.
@@JB-1184
I'm glad I didn't end up buying it... The speakers ARE LOUD, but they're tinny sounding crap speakers, Motorola just doesn't seem to care anymore 😞
Welcome to the new era Motorola Think phone ❤️
I think for stress test, not only cpu performance but temperature would be great. Since this is not a gaming focused they should prioritized comfort temp instead of performance
Strange to call it Motorola. Lenovo owns Motorola and the ThinkPad brand. The ThinkPhone lineup should just remain under the Lenovo Brand and not be a sub-brand of Motorola
Hello! Having a ThinkPad, I decided to buy the ThinkPhone for U$ 460,00. Thank you for the video and expertise.
Wish they also made a midrange device:
1. Midrange Chipset instead of a flagship one (e.g. SD 778G or MT Dimensity 8100)
2. Lower IP rating (say IP56)
3. Gorilla glass 5 or 4
4. Headphone jack
5. Mono speaker
6. Priced between USD300-500
There's no 778g phone on the planet worth $500.
they have moto edge 30 with 778G+ around 300usd
Just go and buy Motorola XT2201 or XT2205
I want this phone to be the new Blackberry.
IP68 dust and water resistance in the ThinkPhone 25 is a game changer! The Dimensity 7300 will power through any task effortlessly.
This phone would make a perfect T-EUD since we don't care about photo quality, another thing is how much software update we'll be getting, cause custom ROM are not always possible !
I'll probably ask Motorola a sample unit and more clarifications about software support, but other than that, the specs are exactly what we're looking for!
GSM Arena, is the only tech channel which has no actual connection with the audience. They just come, read and go.
Love it that way. No nonsense, just the content we care about.
go watch ur indian chapri channels..
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Bruh why do companies make such good phones but make a dumb move by pricing it so aggressively
It's only $600
Excellent all-round review, thanks Will! Now holds the top slot in the "Nice but Pricey" category. Can't help thinking about all those Corporate types WITH EXACTLY THE SAME Device - that won't go down well in competitive circles! Black Razr23 instead?
The design and screen are its strengths.
Motorola nailed it with Dimensity 7300 in the ThinkPhone 25! Perfect choice for business users needing performance and efficiency.
The performance got a lot better so did battery life, and the camera after a few updates and lastest cornea update
One Of MOTOROLAS Best Most Splendid Phones...But Is In The Overpriced Bandwagon...Priced Like Like The SAMSUNG GALAXY S22 ULTRA...
Best phone thinkphone by Motorola. Loved it just bought it.
Thanks for the review.
We need a review of the Realme GT 3/Neo 5 240W.
For a price like this they should have at least added stylus support, even though it won't be as good as Samsung's.
Lack of expandable storage is a deal breaker for me. But more and more phones are going that way
I have over 4500 pictures,over 1100 videos and 1000 songs saved to my phone as well as over 100 apps and multiple games. I still have 70 GB of 128 free. If you use more then 256 gigs on a phone idk what you’re doing 😂 other then maybe recording a buncha 4K video but you could just move that to a computer?
@@iked4421 I'm just built different I guess. On just my internal storage I have 199Gb full. Plus using an SD card makes it faster and easier to transfer stuff to a new phone
The international version of this phone does have a micro sd slot but not the US version.
I love GSM areena videos♥️
This review (along with Lenovo/Motorola) should have highlighted the Ready For desktop mode much more. Being able to use the ThinkPhone *instead of* a laptop is very appealing. Instead of issuing and managing a bunch of laptops, just issue the phone and have USB-C hot desk setups to plug in and go. One device to rule them all. Ready For is better than Samsung DeX at this point, but Motorola is even worse than Samsung at promoting it.
Focusing 1/3rd of a review of a business phone on the cameras rather than the productivity potential is a big miss.
I know... It is geared towards business, enterprise world... This review is a camera review. Tim Schofield did a great review on this phone
All phone "reviewers" know how to do is whine about the camera while not discussing any actual selling points. First, Moto cameras are great if you aren't pixel peeping all day. Second, ThinkPhone and Moto Edge Plus are light and suave with massive batteries.
I love that the ThinkPhone 25 supports HDR10+ content. The Dimensity 7300 chipset should ensure smooth playback and graphics.
Apart from the Camera
The Phone is really great !!
And Plz add Price at the time of release in your videos
Lenovo Legion Y70 is only around 370USD and even lower priced now with similar specs to this, aside from minor changes which definitely not worth the 700USD extra for the Thinkphone.
I know this is a consumer focused channel but this phone is not really meant for this crowd. Lenovo will sell this phone IN BULK to businesses and they give huge discounts. And it's also meant to be managed by your company's IT dept. Camera is not really a priority (have a work phone and I rarely use it). Most important is good sound quality for calls and durability, which this phone has.
I consider this phone because it's on sale and for $400 offers Snapdragon 8+ gen 1 ( made by TSMC) without over heating problems. Newer Samsung S23 FE is also on discount but it has Snapdragon standard 8 gen 1.
I have this phone. I also have a Pixel 7. TH-cam videos are crisper on the pixel but I do think the certain pics look better on the think phone. I do love the infrastructure of moto, and think I might stick with them! I would use the think phone as my daily driver if the photos were better and the videos were crisper, other than that, I really enjoy this phone!
How's the battery life compared to the Pixel? I have a Pixel 7 and I hate the battery life I get
@@ronaldflamingo8711 my tests seem like they are the same when it comes to battery life!
This phone is 399 in the usa for that money it's a steal
Is the camera here better than that on samsung a54?
Great video, waiting for the Motorola X40 review.
it's like a global version of Lenovo Legion Y70 phone. same specs. but the huge difference is the price. the legion y70 only starts at 400$ with a 8/128 variant.
i got edge fusion with 12 gb ram i love it best phone ever besides updates under 400 way better then apple phone .
Where it buy from? Price?
The read cablr design reminds me of my Moto X (1st gen ) . It was so rugged.
Removable back but not removable battery.
great desing i love it the gorila glass type you dont need screen protector
The camera is an afterthought, similar to how the webcam on the thinkpads are an afterthought..Its built for the business world, designed to become the next blackberry for offices
Nonsense arguments to justify mediocre products for high prices.
@@carldrogo9492 it's not an argument, it's a fact??
@@carldrogo9492 Not arguing for it, just saying for people whose company will buy these for (obviously these are not made for personel purchase/use), these management types dont need a well performing camera.
I would upgrade from my Oneplus 7T but my main skepticism is the cameras and promised updates. Even at the sale price of $400 I still cant justify something that realistically is only an upgrade in storage and processor. My 7T still works perfectly fine speedwise aside from some quirks, some of which are just Android related and not the phone at all (annoyances with Google phone and messenger apps).
While tempting, im going to stick with my 7T in hopes the S24 blows me away or something comes out like this Thinkphone with better cameras and software updates.
When is the latest one coming out?
First nothing phone and now think phone, and later, there will be also called something phone and this will be go on in the future. nice job🎉
They should have put the red nipple in the middle of the keyboard when it pops up hahaha
You call it red nipplee? 😅
Again, a phone with no headphone jack and no SD card slot is just useless especially on a flagship. Flagships should be the ultimate maximum experience on a product line.
If you are thinking about getting the thinkphone then you have lost your ability to think
Whyou bother to look then...?
Ah, so Motorola can produce phones with IP68 level protection... 🤔
They've done it before with Motorola defy back in 2011
Yet not a word about the telephone or Wi-Fi reception. I remember how the original Moto X was praised as one of the five best mobile telephones of the year for LTE connection that beat Apple "by a country mile." Of course, not a word about its spotty 3G connectivity. My old 2020 Moto G could keep a 5 GHz Wi-Fi connection farther than the latest Apple could keep 2.4 GHz. Neither Lenovo nor anyone else bothered to test for that, either.
It's a mobile radio. Test for radio connectivity, will ya?
I would love the idea of a Motorola Legion dedicated for gaming
Great review
Wil sounds he's having colds ❄️🥶
Does it come with any screen protector already installed? Guess no need for a case with this model.
Why do manufacturers keep adding useless dedicated buttons but can't seem to add a two stage camera button on the top right hand side (landscape)? The camera is one of the main reasons people upgrade phones. Some of us hate tapping at a screen and most people would enjoy it if they had the option to use a physical button.
Honestly it is way to expensive for what it is. Think Lenovo & Motorola has overestimated the brand cache for its ThinkPad lineup.
Review the a54 as soon as it comes out pls!
I'd still take this over the S23 just for the microSD slot.
Hey does it have a pre applied screen protector ?
Hardcore business professionals don’t waste their time taking photos, so potato cams for them. Think on that! 😂
I hear ya, but really, it depends on the business. Some, if not most due to today's work a good camera is necessary. Even as simple as attaching photos taken to an email.
Does it have LED notification light for missed notifications?
If you buy a Motorola. You will go through the following phases:
1st stage: slightly disappointed as it does not meet expectations
2nd stage: you discover bugs and stability issues. Lots of them. Even on the flagships.
3rd stage: you start to console yourself that your purchase is good. An update will come to solve the issues.
4th stage: you realise the updates are not coming.
5th stage: you become terribly annoyed and angry
6th stage: you orchestrate a revolt against the customer care and bombard the Motorola forum with complaints
7th stage: you realise no amount of complaining will solve the issue.
8th stage: you realise you got scammed
9th stage: you advocate against the purchase of Motorola phones on TH-cam videos
Used motorola e3 power for 3 years, rugged phone, good battery. It feels snappy then, if only apps not demanding more phone resources i might use it longer.
Never had an issue with my Moto G Power. Dad never an issue with his Razr. Mum with what ever Moto phone she chose.
My phone spends much of the day in hog bars... An environment so caustic we have to gut the interiors every five years due to corrosion. And the phone works just fine.
Looks like a solid phone, however at the price would prefer S23Ultra with a little extra
These can be had brand new for under 400 USD for a while now. At that price, it's a really solid phone, especially in 2024 where something like the Samsung A35 is 400 dollars brand new.
Get well Will 🤧
Many of you are missing the main point about this phone, it's not a flagship for entertainment ect... Just like the Samsung Xcover are working phones for corporate, retail, ect... This is like the Samsung Xcover line, same purpose, lower price point.
So terrible software support, average specs, nothing to make it really stand out and they're asking premium prices for it? This won't sell well at all.
Let me guess this phone won't be sold in the US
It's a huge miss on Motorola's part not to make the dot over the i in Thinkphone a notification LED
Heyyo, I feel they missed an opportunity here by not illuminating the red i in ThinkPhone like they do on their ThinkPad devices heh...
It does look like a decent device... But for the price does it still only get 2 years of OS updates and 4 years of security patches? That seems pretty weak these days, especially for a "business" phone where software updates and especially security patches are more important.
Well I checked the Motorola website and it doesn't mention how many years of software upgrades only security patches...
Currently receiving monthly security updates.
Device launched on January, 2023
Security updates will stop on January, 2027
Launched On: Android 13
Next OS: Android 14
*This device will receive at least bi-monthly SMRs updates
Please note: Channels and regions may have different launch dates and support cycle may vary.
Does it also work with ideapad? Or just thinkpad?
Any Windows machine will work with it.
If Lenovo wants the business market, put an LED indicator like what Blackberry had.
I can get this new direct for £270..is it worth it? How far off a pixel 8a are photo /video quality?
What is the network? 4G/5G?
How do you get the refresh rate displayed like that? What app do you use?
it's inside Developer Options settings
Can you use 3.5mm earbuds with a USB headphone adapter on this?
Does the screen use PWM for dimming?
Excellent
Too expensive, S23 ultra is a better phone
Can you tell me what a sensor camera to use Motorola?
Man I love ThinkPads but I can't see myself purchasing a Motorola phone given the software support
Non-replaceable battery is a deal-breaker.
At that price, agreed. At least they're making a little effort on the case needing a case to protect it.
THIS SEEMS KINDA COMPACT EVEN THOUGH IT GOT A HUGE SCREEN
Don't know if I will ever buy an other Moto stll waiting for my G52 to get updated to Android 13.
The only flagship about the phone is the price.
Well, we can't deny sound is good on this phone... but that's not worth the $1,000+ price
How do you display the refresh rate? 1:43
This vs Poco F5 pro ? Witch one?
if really build toward corporate, a fkin headphone jack would be awesome. Ms teams and zooms sucks with bluetooth earphone.
Does this phone support LDAC codec?
does it have a symmetrical bezels?
This phone should be $700 max. What a waste of opportunity to gain market share.