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Fantastic video, Jess!
You da man, Jess! Appreciate everything and all the hospitality this winter--see you in a few months!
This channel is criminally underrated
Lol thank you!
So please show hitting the driver for this drill. Because on the driver you are hitting up on the ball? Correct?
Tremendous vids! Just awesome!
Please come to Boston area!
I love watching you 2 work together, you guys complement each other with your golf knowledge. Keep up the great work.
Appreciate it! Jess is so awesome--easy to hang with!
Eric, I can't tell you how much this episode on tilting your shoulders has improved my game! Only one round in with this change. However, the results were consistently there. I have never heard it explained/illustrated this way, ever. I knew immediately this was a problem in my swing. And a big thanks to Jess Frank. I know you are primarily a membership focused instructor but if you have payment option for once in awhile donations, I would like to make a financial contribution. Keep up the great work.
Appreciate the kind words and support, Jim!!
Guys I've been playing for 27 years single fig hcp. Never really compressed the ball always caught it a bit clean. Also I had the hosel 🚀 for 10 straight years. Two things improved by making this change only yesterday during a lesson I was having. Two things happened I started hitting the ground in front of the ball and my strike moved mid-toe which is the winning ticket for a golfer like me started to get my draw back without trying. Didnt know whether to try this with the driver too but watchingbthe full video think I will try it next time out. 👍🏴⛳
Love to hear that, Dave!
I tried this on on my last round of golf this weekend and I have never hit my irons as straight and long in my life. I was absolutely crushing my 3 iron. I got into such rhythm that I played 27 holes and I did not want to quit!!! Shot my best score ever. Thanks!
Love to hear that!!
I was jumping up and down when I realized this was Deer Creek and Jesse. Been a long time grinder at the range with Doug Ford JR. and then Charlie Cowan. Charlie turned me on to Malaska Golf and therefore Corgorno Golf. Been a huge help! Have not been to Florida since the lockdown began March 2020. Looking forward to working with you Jesse. You’ve seen my swing. 😉Gary from Canada. 🇨🇦
:) Love it. Jess is great!
@@CogornoGolf I live in Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario. Home of Moe Norman. Moe would be walking by people on the range and repeat, “ practising to be bad, practising to be bad.”Done lots of that. 😂👍🏻
Eric, this might be one of your best videos. This content is excellent! My father and I have been working on this and have seen some fantastic results. Thank you for your superb instruction.
Awesome James! Thank you!!
Just a great series of videos on shoulder tilt - which I have discovered I've been doing all wrong all season (with brutal results, of course)! Kudos to both of you. And thank you, as well!
Thank you Chris!
Well Eric. Congrats on another great video. The first AH HA moment is when i watched your "The Missing Link in Your Backswing, How to Tilt" I've always fought with push hooks and straight hooks, because of a flat backswing. Well this kept me more on plane and now I'm hitting soft draws. My ball striking is awesome. I shot a 38, 39 and 42. The round with the 42 I missed 3 par putts and one birdie putt. Thank you very much.
Love to hear that my friend! Our pleasure! Keep it going!!!
Tried this today and it really works! Solid contact and more distance! Thanks Eric!
Love It!
This video is gold.
Thank you!
I think this explains why I can never get my lead shoulder under my chin like I could when I was a kid. Turn too flat, your shoulder is chasing your head as it moves off the ball and never catches up. Great video.
Appreciate it, Steven!
Very helpful. Started puring the irons like never before. Remember the other shoulder on the way through!
Yes! Love it!
Definitely the best golf channel on TH-cam, at least on the swing technical aspect. Love the explanations, and also love your swing Eric, wouldn't mind getting the same one 😁
Appreciate it :)
needed this lesson many years ago. Starting to do it and it really works.
Love it--better late than never!!
One of my go to golf instructional videos. EC, Russell heritage and AMG fighting the good fight. Always great content. Both your solo lessons and excellent guest spots. Also kudos for the upfront and honest video titles - no clickbate or weirdness. Helped my golf more than you’d know.
all 3 excellent instructors...here s a fourth......golfsmartacademy/tyler ferrell.....tyler is great instructor--like these 3
Appreciate the support guys!
@@guyrestivo - I’ll give the channel a look.
Eric and AMG are all I watch these days. Flushing out all the other nonsense in golf instruction (although I like Russell, just to hear him talk!). Eric is really outstanding. He’s a master instructor. He distills his teaching to very simple, understandable concepts in every lesson.
Thank you for your drill 👍🙏
Our pleasure, Rajesh!
I feel like you are making videos to fix me in particular!!!
2 birds, one stone :)
Oh man - that swing at 14:21 💪🏼- Eric, you need to bottle that one!! Great video and nice banter between you two!
Appreciate it! Jess is awesome--always fun!!
"Yeah, ground second" . . . nice catch Eric! Another great vid from two guys I've learned a lot from
:)
Thanks guys. Awesome lesson. We can see why baseball players, even good ones, don't easily transition to golf. I think it's also very difficult to tilt downward for many of us; it seems to require more flexibility. TU! to this lesson.
100% Thank you!
What a legend jess frank way to go
:)
So well done. Going to focus on this
Thanks Ryan!
I think this video just unlocked my true potential!
I got ya covered Kenny :)
Love Jess’s teaching started with Tom Saguto
I still watch Tom but he’s much younger and goes at it hard. Iam a senior like the smoothness and tempo of Jess.
Both awesome guys!
Excellent post! Many thanks, Gents!
Our pleasure! Thanks for being here with us!
I used to do this with my irons and for some reason got away from it. Tried it again today and hit some really nice shots. Thanks!
Love it!
Need to make a bill board “ left shoulder down”... that is my only swing thought
:)
Great video and it really improved my contact. But, the tilt with the driver on the backswing was a different animal for me. Because I start more tilted the backswing is more flat. Still trying to figure that part out
For sure less tilt with driver...
you want to replace your forward bend with your side bend
So Driver you are the tallest at setup (less forward bend) so you will have less tilt in backswing to maintain inclination to ground
Loving your knowledge which has helped me a lot Eric - thank you. One isue I have when trying to get sufficient tilt is I frequently hit the hosel on the downswing (I`ll not say the word "shank" - yikes!) Thinking that maybe I`m moving the head down too much while tilting?
Hey Patrick!
I'd start with these two videos:
th-cam.com/video/B8duKc_lcPQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/nC-dVMXehqQ/w-d-xo.html
Appreciate you watching the channel!
This answered my question about feeling my turn this made me feel a coil now another question will working out gaining muscle say about 3 to 5 lbs of muscle upper body give me more feel or keep swinging without extensive weight training
Glad to hear that, Paul!
I do not think the muscle will make any difference with this.
Thanks! Convincing and much appreciated!
Thanks, Martin!
great drills, thank you !
Our pleasure!
Those swings WERE pretty nice. And solid. You must of had the tilt right on as your extension looked perfect.
Hit those ones nice!! Thanks!
OUTSTANDING!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you!
@@CogornoGolf .. You’re second swing hitting the ball was the best swing I have seen in a long time. At impact and just past the ball - PERFECT!!
Eric, what club were you using in this video so help you take your “normal” setup? I want to model the drill as your doing it, but I don’t know how close to stand to the ball. Obviously you would be standing much closer to the ball in your normal 9 iron setup than you would be in your normal driver or 4 iron setup. Thanks!
Likely an 8 iron
Please guide us with a feels and drill for right shoulder tilt during the down swing and at impact
This is a great question.
It's where the sheep and goats are seperated.
It's a place where Hogans great quote
' do everything opposite of what you think you should do'(paraphrased)
comes into play.
I hope Eric gives it a whirl.
@@555Trout Me too (I hope Eric gives it a whirl.)
Done! Did that specifically here:
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@@CogornoGolf thanks got it
Thanks Eric.....gone through both the video's for left and right shoulders, back swing Left shoulder and down swing, impact and follow through Right shoulder , in my 02 morning training sessions focusing on shoulders and developing feels for them .....amazing results ......once again thank you for explaining so clearly and explicitly the "SHOULDER STUFF" CHEERS
At what stage of the back swing one should feel the pressure on the trail foot ankle? Is it when the arms are parallel to the ground? The reason people does not till as much is because they want to put pressure on the back ankle on the back swing and it automatically come up because if one continue to till during back swing then it is difficult to put pressure on the back foot ankle? Pls advise thanks.🙏
Hey there! Appreciate you watching!
Check out this video and please let us know if you have any questions👊
th-cam.com/video/rmuQUEqkNiM/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps!
Is it fair to say under 'no circumstances' should there be no 'shoulder tilt?' My son pops up out of posture on backswing and it's somewhat into his muscle memory. When I try to get shoulder tilt he hits is worse. just seeking peace of mind that moving towards more tilt is ALWAYS the right thing. Great video!
Thats correct. Always tilt. standing on side of the ball dictates that
Shoulder tilt... interesting topic, can the lead shoulder tilt too much? I learned it can. Which resulted in the everyday pull hook. I was encouraged not to have steep angle of tilt with the lead shoulder, considering I was starting the ball left of center. Still enjoy all the content you're able to create
It for sure can.....
the reality is ANYTHING in the swing you can do too much, too little, too early, too late.
Thats why the game is so hard :)
The idea is to have a CHECKPOINT to hit so you can adjust your feels to that checkpoint.
A good checkpoint for shoulder tilt is 90* to your back line
Is this Stack & Tilt?The way he seems to me locking his trail knee; and flexing his lead; keeping his weight on his lead side on his backswing sure seems to be. Cheers
Hey Thomas!
Nope. This is just how a golf swing works
Eric, I never knew you liked stack & title
I like all things golf swing that work well! This is really just what all good players do (tilt)!! Cant swing and hit it well without it
Eric, this is again a wonderful and important video and, yet, I have a question left! Assume a specific forward bending and also assume that you do not move the head at all while tilting (you are a very good example for this), then - in my opinion - the tilting is unique and cannot be influenced. Is this correct? Assume an extreme situation: a forward bending of 90 degrees (i.e., horizontally), if you then rotate by 90 degress, your tilt will be vertical! Thus, the question is: if the forward bending remains constant and the head does not move, is the tilt unique and cannot be influenced any more?
Hey Bernhard!
Thanks for the question! I'm not sure exactly what you are asking here, though :)
Can we define "unique"
"is the tilt unique and cannot be influenced any more?"
Can you re phrase?
@@CogornoGolf Thank you for asking again. Now I do know I was wrong! Nevertheless, I will try to explain what bothered me. I thought, the shoulder tilt is fully correlated to (or connected with) the forward bending only and there is no other option to influence it in case you do not move your head. Yet, this is not true. This may be demonstrated simply: if you are in an upright position and keep your head constant, then you can tilt your shoulder! Accordingly, you can do it when you are forward bent and rotated! Thank you for your patience!
The last few swings you made ... Dude, the sound at impact should be your ring tone.
Lol
Hey Eric, great video. Any thoughts for the right shoulder in the downswing with this in mind?
Yep...flip the script! Right shoulder down
th-cam.com/video/fbg7FuqcaA4/w-d-xo.html
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@@CogornoGolf Awesome, thanks Eric!
Is this Jess Frank, The brother of the famous Dr. Gabe Frank? Al Vermeil
Yes sir Al! :)
The one and only :) Jess is the best!
@@CogornoGolf Enjoy your golf instruction. You do a very nice job
Thank you, Al! I appreciate you being here with us!
Hi good video. Have u got a drill to stop the head coming forward and down (steady head). I do this, I also flex my lead knee. Thanks. Stephen
hey Stephen! Yes!
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@@CogornoGolf thanks Eric for the reply. I actually meant in the backswimg from DTL. When I tilt my head comes forward towards the ball (out of the box) and down. I think I had to much lead shoulder tilt. How do I fix it and keep my inclination to the ground? People do drills to help with flat shoulder planes. Rather than the opposite too much tilt. Thanks very much. Stephen
Head on the wall drill .....dont push into noodle
th-cam.com/video/TIDfZFdNW_0/w-d-xo.html
20-30 reps daily next 90 days
@@CogornoGolf thankyou
Hi, any videos that would help with too much of a sweeping strike with irons, feel like I’m just picking the ball of then grass last few rounds rather than getting that compressed strike
Hey James!
It REALLY depends on why you are sweeping/picking vs divot.
It honestly could be like 10 difference things that are all massively different. Could se various setup issues, various backswing issues, downswing, etc.
So for me to give you a good answer thats specific to you I really need to see your swing on video.
If you don't get it sorted, consider joining www.cogornogolf.com so you can send us in your videos! We have a 30 day money back guarantee so there's nothing to lose!
Eric hits ball....
Jess: "Pretty solid."
Eric: "Very solid."
Lol I laughed when I heard that...didnt realize I said that :)
Thanks!
Our pleasure my friend!
@@CogornoGolf How do you feel about one plane mixed with S&T ala Bryson/Moe Norman style? I know Bryson is not S&T 100% but I tried it (one plane outstretched hands) awhile back 2007 with good success then I let 100's of golf tips in and screwed myself. Right now I am sticking strictly with S&T and working on that as my main system but thought maybe the mix of the two would create the most consistency? Your thoughts?
Hey man!
I think its really too broad of a subject to say yay or nay to.
Every single golfer has stack and tilt elements. Its a great systematic way to learn and teach the swing.
technically no one swings on one plane...but if those thoughts/ feels help thats cool!
I think the correct thing to do is work with a great coach and objectively find the things you need to work on to improve your contact, ball control, direction, etc.
Whatever "system" or method that falls into doesn't matter much to me.
I love the way you hit the ball! I definitely am too flat. However When i try this i hit a lot of fat shots. Any suggestions?
Hey Eddie!
Yes---since you are literally getting your body closer to the ground than you normally do....you need to shorter another lever.
That usually means keep trail arm more bent and trail wrist more bent back in downswing.
If you normally turn flat you are farther from the ground and have to straighten arms and wrists to get to the ball.
Thats an educated guess without seeing your swing but I would start there
Thank u very much for responding. Its a work in progress but i definitely hit some compressed shots that i rarely do before watching this. Sticking with it.
Been playing 55 years, never heard that idea. Could never maintain spine angle until now.
Hope it serves you well, Thomas!
would the same shoulder turn be for DRIVER also?
Yep! We talk about that in there....replacing forward bend with side bend. Will be less because you are less bent over at setup
As someone who struggled with the swing problems described in the first five minutes of the video, I’m of the opinion that more shoulder tilt is not the fix to those problems. To me, the fix is learning how to backswing properly, with the arms moving back in unison, to the inside, and the shoulders also rotating in unison. I still can’t tilt my shoulders, but I fixed my swing quite nicely anyway. Why swing back to the inside? Because the ball gets struck from the inside on the downswing. It’s simply a back and forth motion on the identical path. Now that I’ve learned a proper backswing motion, I found that tilt on the backswing was just not relevant to fixing my swing at all. I’m not saying it’s not good teaching. I’m just saying not everyone’s body can tilt like that. Just my opinion, based on my own experience.
Hey Michael! Appreciate your feedback and thoughts. Whatever works for you we are happy with.
Of course everyone tilts.
How much can vary. But everyone tilts.
@@CogornoGolf Thank you Eric. And you're right. Everyone tilts. I looked at my swing on video and I actually developed some tilt, by pure accident, when I learned a proper backswing. All's well that ends well :-)
What's a good checkpoint for the tilt coming down around P6?
Shoulders roughly same tilt as you had at setup
From face on view
Your videos on shoulder tilt and trail wrist extension are $. Quick question: should the shoulders tilt steeply/toward the ball with driver, too? Or should the driver be more like the flat/wrong tilt so that you can get behind it and hit up? It makes sense to do this with shots on the ground but curious as to the tilt with driver.
Hey!
Thanks!
The idea is you replace the amount of forward bend with side bend
So SW you are bent over the most so you side bend the mot
Driver you are bent over the least so you tilt the least
Shoulders tilted roughly 90* to forward bend at address a good place to start
How can I solve thick shot when I try tilting?
Shorter right arm and bent back right wrist more downswing
th-cam.com/video/Lbluc0YCwlE/w-d-xo.html
I don't understand-it is not really a "tilting". You bend at the waist to address the ball and rotate around your spine. In general, the angle of the swing that is created is determined more by the height of the player-more than anything else. Generally, taller players have more "tilt" and shorter players have less "tilt"...and it is otherwise of little consequence-because this is an individual thing. Each of us have to find our (individual) best way in this.
Left shoulder down to me feels like i am dragging the club head away from the ball while itfeels like it is furrowing through the grass...
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Golf instructors never teach from a 1st person perspective or what the golfers should be observing with their eyes while they’re swinging. That is why they rarely help anyone. Simply “swing like this” and then “it should feel like this”.This is just another example.
Thanks for the feedback, Danny!
Where is the Stack in this video ?
Center of upper hub (sternum) over center of lower hub (pelvis)
You would see that from face on (staying centered)
Left shoulder down plus rotation IS thebackswing....the phease one piece takeaway is misleading!
Yep! Im OK with one piece for a general idea but you do need to tilt and turn (and extend) like you mention!
One piece for the arms and club for the first foot or so of backing is GOOD
th-cam.com/video/fAZGLV2HpYs/w-d-xo.html
@@CogornoGolf thank you for the clarification
B. S.
If in the back swing, the right hip is higher than the left..and if you sink your left knee towards the ground, your left shoulder will tilt even more. Anyway, Palmer had an unattractive swing. Ben Hogan's right hip was lower than the left in the back swing, and with a flatter shoulder turn, that alone....makes the forward swing way easier to come from the inside. You don't tilt the left shoulder to throw a pebble in the water, or throw a club into the driving range with the right hand. I already mention in the past what Greg Norman says about shoulders turn...do not create pressure, it should be comfortable, don't fight it. He is absolutely correct. Most golf pros are pathetic in my opinion, and that guy Jess is not any better.
Comfortable is a relative term. For Norman, tilt was comfortable so he can say it. 99% of the best strikers in the world have tilt. Hogan had god given talent that enabled him to compensate for his flat shoulder plane just as Furyk has god given talent that allows him to compensate for his extreme tilt. They are both outliers.
Hey Rudy!
Normally I would not take the time nor spend energy on a message like this.
But I will due to the rude comments at the end about pros and Jess alike.
Have you ever seen any swings measured in 3d?
I have.
Thousands.
Every single one has left side bend during the backswing.
Every one.
There are none without it. Zero. Not one.
What we are presenting in this video is not opinion. It is measured fact.
Go ahead and do some more research and you will learn for yourself.
@@CogornoGolf , atta boy , Eric ! You’re correct ! I am wondering if some players might do better w / the side bend thought more than focusing on going down w/ the left shoulder . Both Jack & Sam Snead always warmed up w / the club behind the lower back to emphasize a pivot of the midsection . Of the three pivot drills , front of shoulders , back of neck and lower back , I think the lower back turns the shoulders for you without ending up w / a rev. pivot backswing . Just a thought . John ( Percy Boomer : “If you keep the feel of the pivot , the shoulders moving in response to the pivot , and the arms moving in response to the shoulders , nothing much can go wrong with your game “ .)
Excellent excellent excellent 😊😊😊🏌🏼♂️🏌🏼♂️🏌🏼♂️
Thank you Martin!
The part that confused me is tilting from the “shoulders” causes the poor upwards motion. You actually tilt from your core and pelvis.