I'm not sure if these comments are being read anymore, but this is insanely good video. I've never hit a driver like I did today. I hit a 450 yard par 4 with driver 6 iron. Literally the week before I was ten yards short with driver 4 iron. I'm going to join Mr. Cogorno's site. This video and the twist release videos snapped so many pieces of the swing into place. Don't sway off the ball, tilt forward then back, weight left and make sure to twist the shaft closed to take away the right side of the course = an 80 at an insanely tough track with two buddies who played college golf. Thank you. This is the first youtube comment I've ever written.
Eric, I think it is amazing how much respect you show to the many ways to swing a club. You are never afraid to listen or show us what others are doing. It's rare to have instructors at your level that feel comfortable allowing for various opinions. Thanks.
It has taken some time to overcome the muscle memory of my previously poorly executed golf swing, but I made it happen. With stack and tilt I am consistently hitting a nice draw instead of a wicked slice. Thanks for your coaching and reinforcements.
So refreshing to see you sharing your ideas with other top instructors. Saw Steve Pratt and now with Jess. We are all unique and certain techniques work and others don't. It really shows that you truly care about helping golfers. Your openness and confidence about your philosophy is impressive! You are a gift to the weekend warriors! Mahalo!
Eric is pretty stack and tilt type golf swing anyway. And…It’s also nice to see other folks beside me who don’t use a glove! This is another great video from both of these guys who say things that really work for me. I train at golftec, so I am a front poster/ stack and tilt style also. I like Jess Frank, Eric Cogorno, Tom Saguto, Rob Cheney….all have similar organized swing components that are same as what I do at golftec. This method is the only real sustained improvement I have had in many years of trying to learn. I have shaved over 10 strokes off my typical round in the year I have utilized this set of principles to swing, and haven’t even practiced short game once in the year. I have missed one fairway in the past 3 rounds I have played. These golf swing principles that these guys teach have worked for me.
and i might add that Eric's videos are the ones i utilize most. He has a way of saying things and creating drills that work best for me. When my time at Golftec runs out I plan on joining his website, and next time I pass through Boca will try to get an in person lesson from him if thats possible.
I’m guilty of watching TONS of golf instructional videos. This is one of the first that has been an immediate game changer for me. I left the course early yesterday because I skied and scarred my brand new driver twice and then proceed to snap hook it the next couple of holes. I was mad and being a loser. Showed up today with these tips and instant gratification. Thanks man, keep killing it! I wish you much more success and a Merry Christmas!
So glad I found out about the tilt portion of the downswing. A whole year at Golftec and never once was I told I needed to tilt, so I had a huge issue of duck hooked drivers and over drawn irons. Now they’re just beautiful 2 yard draws. Thank you for this wonderful video and instruction!
I'm 63 and changed to stack and tilt a year ago and seen significant improvements. I hit the ball first consistently, power has increased and the stress on my body virtually eradicated. My handicap had been lowered by 12 shots to 10.
I am not a ST Golfer.... Compliments to you for showing your all viewer different types of golf swings.... Lots of golf instructor give the ST system negative Criticism... Well done to you... You are an awesome instructor...
So this drill was my main focus playing today. I must say it dramatically helped my driving. Most of my drives were fantastic. I did miss some drives as I slipped into old habits but at least I was able to diagnose what I was doing wrong. This was great. Thank you, Jess and Eric!
Kyle Berkshire getting some love in this video is great! He's unbelievable at launching that ball! I love the emphasis on getting the "feel" to go along with the sequence. Amazing advice! I'll be practicing this at the range tomorrow, thanks!
It amazes me how much "new" instruction keeps reminding me of things I was taught 40yrs ago. We were taught as Jr's that the right shoulder brings the chin up into the finish 👍
It's really cool to see u and tom doing videos together. Tom's method has also changed my game and perspective on the game. Making golf great again!! Keep up the good work guys!!
@@McLandry93 Work on it mind numbingly slow and with alignment sticks. It really comes together when you are squared up to those sticks and swinging slowly. You'll discover everything he is discussing privately if you allow it.
Another suggestion, don't use a ball. Use a tee or something or an "intermediate" point to swing towards. It's no fun shanking a ball, it just deters you. However, it's up to you ultimately. I'm just a guy, that learned from another guy, suggesting shortcuts to another guy.
I think Saguto's tilt is different. He says you tilt at the start of the take back. In other words you don't turn your shoulders you tilt into the ball which brings your back shoulder back and up naturally. I think combining Saguto with this would work.
Hi Eric , great to see you and Jess team up together, love watching your videos and also think Jess is a incredible teacher . So best of worlds, can not wait to see more content from you both.
As a beginner I am trying to build my swing using your videos, after a baseball career I find it difficult to have my weight on the front foot with the driver, I put a lot of hope in this video for my next trip at the range. Thank you for your great channel.
@@CogornoGolf DO you mean I can't mix the "swing for senior" backswing tip (weight on front foot and shirt button towards the sky) and this stack and tilt method ?
I love this method. Has really improved my golf after 20 years in the wilderness. Still struggling to transition from backswing down to downswing though.
Check out our series with Milo on starting downswing: th-cam.com/video/jN64PgWhca8/w-d-xo.html or this one I personally like to feel to start down with lower: th-cam.com/video/fJQn_FzVnjg/w-d-xo.html
People have always and still are trying to correct my stand and tilt swing. Didn’t know it was a thing. But I’m glad it is and I’m not the only one that’s hits my driver and irons with stack and tilt method
I have always struggled to hit up with driver but tilting hips at address has increased angle of attack. Really helps with increasing loft and carrying ball further. Good tip for golfers who have same issue.
I bought the Stack 'n' Tilt DVDs years ago and tried the system, and it seemed to work with irons, but I had trouble with the driver. Also, because I've had surgery on my left (leading) knee, I had a VERY hard time with the Stack 'n' Tilt's system of having you start with slightly more weight on your lead leg, and INCREASING the weight onto your lead leg in the down swing, not shifting your weight onto the trail leg as is commonly taught. Felt sharp pain and felt like my lead knee was going to collapse in the back swing, so I gave it up.
I think this video shows an element of S&T on the downswing, not the whole S&T process as you discovered what works best for you. It appears that Jess has somewhat modified the pure S&T swing into a powerful move that many can adopt on the follow thru.
Definitely some key differences with iron vs driver Mainly the setup and the body position I go through those details here: th-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u And here: th-cam.com/video/uUSLNi4OSBU/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u
This makes a lot of sense. I hit my irons solid and fairways but struggle with direction and low launch with driver but keeping the head back and rotate my chest on a tilted angle makes a lot of sense. Should work against me tendency to spin out.
I started in the 90s when Faldo was at his peak. And leadbetters way was being taught. Great way to play but needs lots of practice. Today its all about S&T or Centered, less moving parts. Which makes it more efficient and not so dependent on timing.
Thanks Eric, I get the stack and tilt and I know club head speed is dictated by your legs pushing hard towards the target so is the lead arm turning over a little to close the club face? You be the man! Love ya brother
For sure there will be some lead arm supination in ALL swings. More with weaker grip...less with stronger grip th-cam.com/video/8Cg2O8atmYY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/3QQUyRnRSJU/w-d-xo.html
G'day Eric. Watching your videos makes me want to get back out on the course again. I think my last round was over 12 months ago and where I live you can play year round. I'll go down to the driving range only 10 minutes away and try some of this instruction. Thanks for the great videos, but damn you make it look easy. Cheers from Aus. :)
The best thing for me to execute a decent drive is establish 3 things at address: tee height, ball placement in my stance, the stance itself. My most optimal position requires that I have a rotation-generated back swing and initiate the down swing with my core and move towards the target in order to make contact with the ball. Not crazy distance, but definitely easy distance!
I know Saguto says he can really crush his drives with the stack and tilt. Did you find the same thing or do you crush more with YOUR swing? Thanks again for all your useful and helpful content.
Another great video. I am a little confused by the label stack and tilt though. Your side clips show a lot of great players exhibiting the same movements. Have you just picked out some components of st that align with traditional golf instruction?
Hey Dave! I think ALL of stack and tilt aligns with good golf swings....depending on who's version you talk to you might be able to pick out 1-2% that someone doesn't agree with but the 3D movements of stack and tilt are simply what good players do....so you should see those elements there :)
Great video Eric. I really struggle with getting my weight to the front side especially with driver. I this video you say “push your weight to the front side” or something like that. What do you mean “push? Should I be pushing of my trail foot to start the down swing to create the tilt forward of the hips? Any help you can give would great!! Thank for your videos!! Love them!
I would imagine you have both feet on a weight scale.... Increase the weight on the left foot to start the downswing Here is some more resources on moving weight forward and drills: th-cam.com/video/PyPerUxhw3A/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/BUk-KLh_k20/w-d-xo.html
So does stack and tilt have your tilt forward for irons and back for the driver? Weight forward for hitting down on the ball with shorter clubs and tilted back for hitting up with your driver? Its really two different set ups?
I wish there was a Stack & Tilt Instructor here in Hawaii. As a Paramedic, this is the only golf swing that makes any sense from a body mechanics perspective. I’m trying to learn how to play golf, but there is no one here that teaches this method.
I would say 50/50 at setup 70-30 to the right early in backswing by about half way back (that's pressure in feet) without hips moving right Back to 50/50 at top then more left early downswing
Generally speaking yes....it wont be exactly the same but I dont think you need to FEEL anything different. If you were going to work off the ball more that would be with driver...less with irons.
When we tilt to the right, isnt our weight tend to be more on the right too? It's hard for me to move my weight forward when tilting. Without much tilting is good though. Any tips pls?
To some degree....same movements but varying degrees More on that here th-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/hbsHxC3bIw4/w-d-xo.html
In a Golf Magazine 3 part series of articles of a long time ago, they kind of said about the same thing but in a different way. But they called it more like getting into an athletic position. They showed where many tour players actually set up this way tilted back before the swing starts and they showed pictures of that. Most importantly they called the bad thing, "left side crunch". They pointed out that when the head is not back, everything "crunches up" on the left side thus robbing power. It is not cleared and crunches up against a steady head in the wrong position (forward). They actually used a body harness with sensors hooked up to a computer to capture the analysis they presented. I think 200 touring pros were analyzed against 400 amateur's on that thing. Then they made artist created drawings of the correct and incorrect positions.. I spent many hours replicating it, and it was all true. It really revived my sagging golf game. Frankly, I was doing everything wrong and I was a fairly accomplished player. It also helps you to hit the ball much straighter. They also stressed the "levelness" (turning level around one's spin only" as a key ingredient.
I started using ST method in last month of season much easier on my back I had surgery on L4 L5 5 years ago. I also hit my first 300 yard drive in 15 years and my last round birdied 4 out of my last 7 holes with a lip out or it would have been 5. Consider me a convert easier to repeat swing with less practice time which is also big for me cause I work 6 days a week I want to play on my day off
Implementing stack and tilt into my swing has been the only thing that’s given me consistent contact. My body doesn’t move like it used to and getting my tempo, timing and weight shift consistently right has been frustrating. But keeping that weight planted on the lead foot has helped tremendously
Interested in you teaching offering. What is needed to get instruction from you?? Are you able to get days from the ball from a video like you can with a Trakman?? Had 3 cervical neck fusions over the last 11 yrs and just got back to playing again. Having a hard time hitting my irons as I can hit "down" any longer. Rarely take a divot, but hitting the driver fairly good distance and super straight. Previously a + handicap golfer and played collegiate golf.... Let me know what your able to do with your instruction.
Hey Bryan! We do all of our coaching online at www.cogornogolf.com Give it a look and send us a message to service@cogornogolf.com if you have any questions! I'm sure you will love it!
What is shown here is that there is a moment where weight is transferred onto the right foot. I have been trying to do a stack and tilt driver swing without ever transferring the weight like this, and I find that I am struggling to maintain my balance, and it feels awkward. Is it true that moving weight to the back foot momentarily is recommended?
Hey Pete! Nope--same general ideas to varying degrees with irons More on that here th-cam.com/video/jrd5YwH9TR0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/q43rhyr6-vE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/scieZk2ZGo4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/pbyZpiTnNlY/w-d-xo.html
Am I not understanding but Eric seems to be too far on his right at setup. I thought setup using stack and tilt should be more centered with more weight on the left side. Correct?
Thanks for the feedback....I believe they would suggest something like 60/40 Left or 55/45.....we weren't really focused on that aspect here. Thanks for watching!
They should have just called this Tilt, nobody would argue with that and every good golfer tilts regardless of weight transfer. It's just easier for us non tour pros to make sure our hips and weight are correct with stack n tilt.
When I first saw stack and tilt I said “oh yeah, another wacky golf swing video”, but I am a complete convert. You will better shots more consistently than ever before.
I thought the tilt was during the take back. You tilt your front shoulder down towards the ball as you bring the club back so that your head is over the ball. That's the stack. If you don't tilt your torso down your head moves slightly behind the ball as you go back.
Yes Left shoulder down in backswing Right shoulder down in downswing Thats the "tilt" part the "stack" is keeping the sternum on top of center of pelvis in the backswing (that includes the extension and turn parts)
@@CogornoGolf Awesome. Thank you! Any tips or videos on how to initiate the down swing? I feel like that is where things go wrong (when they do) -- the initial movement and how to keep your balance and tilt as you get your body rotating back open.
I love the straight arms idea, but I would add that they should BE STRAIGHTENED by the proper physics of gravity and by a natural pendulum motion, and not by the arms clenching to straighten things out. The clenching will kill everything. Natural motion will allow not only for length and arc, but also for the arms/wrists/club all to turn over naturally.
Hey Mark! We might just be doing some videos with Tom next month :) But don't tell anyone that....supposed to be a surprise! The real Stack and Tilt guru is the founder himself Andy Plummer.
The Pros shown do not swing at S&T, and even their swings could be classified into leading side/trailing side domination (rotate the left or right hip to activate the rotation of the club). I also hate the couch to spend lots of time to explain what is wrong and do just a few for the right. We just need to get right image not the wrong one. Based on the demonstration of Mike Bennett, his S&T is quite different than the video shows. His swing partly same as Rory (right side domination) but without a downward trailing arm extension. Maybe this is just for advocating a convenient way of golf swing for armature golfers. Please don't talk about Charlie Wi, his swing is 100% not the S&T!
I cannot explain it, but after 20 years of playing and lessons, I have a very negative reaction to stack and tilt. I have tried it several times, and I hate it.
Stack n tilt doesn’t let you hit up with the driver that’s where the problem is. Sure lots of pros hit slightly down on it. But they want that to hit a fade , pretty hard to hit down and have a nice high long draw
Thanks for the feedback! Of course that's too broad of a statement. I have plenty of friends who teach/use stack and tilt (which is simply a 3d description of what goes on in a good swing) and hit up and far.
Stack and Tilt was one pattern O’Grady and MORAD taught for short irons only. Was never supposed to be used for long irons or driver. If you can make it work great, but Baddeley failed miserably at the US Open using it
Enjoy your videos but you need to work on the Sound. So much static from your mic, and this is not the First time. Will make your videos so much more enjoyable👍
I'm not sure if these comments are being read anymore, but this is insanely good video. I've never hit a driver like I did today. I hit a 450 yard par 4 with driver 6 iron. Literally the week before I was ten yards short with driver 4 iron.
I'm going to join Mr. Cogorno's site. This video and the twist release videos snapped so many pieces of the swing into place. Don't sway off the ball, tilt forward then back, weight left and make sure to twist the shaft closed to take away the right side of the course = an 80 at an insanely tough track with two buddies who played college golf.
Thank you.
This is the first youtube comment I've ever written.
Love to hear that, John! Appreciate the support and would love to have you on our team at www.cogornogolf.com! I'm confident you will love it!
The best part of this video Eric is that it demonstrated your willingness to share other effective swing techniques. Thank you!
Appreciate it, Fred!
Agree. Stack n tilt revolutionized my iron game. Literally night and day.
Haven’t tried it with driver yet.
Eric, I think it is amazing how much respect you show to the many ways to swing a club. You are never afraid to listen or show us what others are doing. It's rare to have instructors at your level that feel comfortable allowing for various opinions. Thanks.
Appreciate the kind words and support, Ben!
The videos you do with Jesse have helped the most.
Love to hear this, Brian!
It has taken some time to overcome the muscle memory of my previously poorly executed golf swing, but I made it happen. With stack and tilt I am consistently hitting a nice draw instead of a wicked slice. Thanks for your coaching and reinforcements.
Love to hear it, Joe!
So refreshing to see you sharing your ideas with other top instructors. Saw Steve Pratt and now with Jess. We are all unique and certain techniques work and others don't. It really shows that you truly care about helping golfers. Your openness and confidence about your philosophy is impressive! You are a gift to the weekend warriors! Mahalo!
Appreciate the kind words and support Randall!
Eric is pretty stack and tilt type golf swing anyway. And…It’s also nice to see other folks beside me who don’t use a glove!
This is another great video from both of these guys who say things that really work for me. I train at golftec, so I am a front poster/ stack and tilt style also. I like Jess Frank, Eric Cogorno, Tom Saguto, Rob Cheney….all have similar organized swing components that are same as what I do at golftec. This method is the only real sustained improvement I have had in many years of trying to learn. I have shaved over 10 strokes off my typical round in the year I have utilized this set of principles to swing, and haven’t even practiced short game once in the year. I have missed one fairway in the past 3 rounds I have played. These golf swing principles that these guys teach have worked for me.
Thanks Rob!
and i might add that Eric's videos are the ones i utilize most. He has a way of saying things and creating drills that work best for me. When my time at Golftec runs out I plan on joining his website, and next time I pass through Boca will try to get an in person lesson from him if thats possible.
I’m guilty of watching TONS of golf instructional videos. This is one of the first that has been an immediate game changer for me. I left the course early yesterday because I skied and scarred my brand new driver twice and then proceed to snap hook it the next couple of holes. I was mad and being a loser. Showed up today with these tips and instant gratification. Thanks man, keep killing it! I wish you much more success and a Merry Christmas!
👊Love to hear this one helped your game!! Hope you have a great Christmas!
So glad I found out about the tilt portion of the downswing. A whole year at Golftec and never once was I told I needed to tilt, so I had a huge issue of duck hooked drivers and over drawn irons. Now they’re just beautiful 2 yard draws. Thank you for this wonderful video and instruction!
Love to hear that, William!!
Maybe Golftec wants it that way. 🤔
Eric your joining Tom and Jess colorations are fantastic. Big fan. Keep it up!!!
Appreciate it, Jon! Great guys!
I'm 63 and changed to stack and tilt a year ago and seen significant improvements. I hit the ball first consistently, power has increased and the stress on my body virtually eradicated. My handicap had been lowered by 12 shots to 10.
Excellent! Its a great system!
Great golf teachers are curious and continue to learn from others. Eric you do this expertly. And the results show. What a solid video!!
Appreciate it, David!
I am not a ST Golfer.... Compliments to you for showing your all viewer different types of golf swings.... Lots of golf instructor give the ST system negative Criticism... Well done to you... You are an awesome instructor...
Appreciate it, Ravi!
More of this please stack and tilt gets such hard time.
Yessir
So this drill was my main focus playing today. I must say it dramatically helped my driving. Most of my drives were fantastic. I did miss some drives as I slipped into old habits but at least I was able to diagnose what I was doing wrong. This was great. Thank you, Jess and Eric!
Love it Jeff!
I tried this at my local driving rand and WHOAH what an amazing difference! So much more accurate ball striking, power, and ease! I love it!
Love to hear that, Brian!
Kyle Berkshire getting some love in this video is great! He's unbelievable at launching that ball! I love the emphasis on getting the "feel" to go along with the sequence. Amazing advice! I'll be practicing this at the range tomorrow, thanks!
Kyle is an unbelievable ball striker...really fun to watch! Appreciate the kind words and support!
Jess Frank is the man. Love his channel. It's 'super important' to watch it.
He's great!
Thank you Oliver! I am lucky to have met Eric and he is so generous for including me on his channel :)
Thanks Eric! Really appreciate you introducing other teachers and approaches.
Our pleasure, James! Lots of fun for us...Jess is great!
This a great demonstration by two awesome golf instructors, this is very easily to understand and execute. Thank you!
Thanks so much, Sam! Appreciate you watching!
It amazes me how much "new" instruction keeps reminding me of things I was taught 40yrs ago. We were taught as Jr's that the right shoulder brings the chin up into the finish 👍
Love it, Paul! Often times what is new is old!
Great video! Love Jess Frank’s Videos too!!!
Jess is awesome!! Thanks for your support!
It's really cool to see u and tom doing videos together. Tom's method has also changed my game and perspective on the game. Making golf great again!! Keep up the good work guys!!
Thanks Matt!!
Tom Saguto got me on this 2 years ago, and I've never hit the ball better. It's so easy once you get it down!
Love it!
Been trying drills and hitting the range. Pretty tough trying to re-teach the body but I'm hopeful for good results!
@@McLandry93 Work on it mind numbingly slow and with alignment sticks. It really comes together when you are squared up to those sticks and swinging slowly. You'll discover everything he is discussing privately if you allow it.
Another suggestion, don't use a ball. Use a tee or something or an "intermediate" point to swing towards. It's no fun shanking a ball, it just deters you. However, it's up to you ultimately. I'm just a guy, that learned from another guy, suggesting shortcuts to another guy.
I think Saguto's tilt is different. He says you tilt at the start of the take back. In other words you don't turn your shoulders you tilt into the ball which brings your back shoulder back and up naturally. I think combining Saguto with this would work.
Hi Eric , great to see you and Jess team up together, love watching your videos and also think Jess is a incredible teacher . So best of worlds, can not wait to see more content from you both.
Thanks, Jeff! Agreed....Jess is awesome!
Thank you Jeff! Eric is awesome!
As I follow both you and Jess, I was glad I found this video. Great stuff!
Appreciate it! Jess is awesome--more to come!
Great video of two great teachers. Well done gents..
Thanks, Sean! Jess is awesome!!
Thank you Sean Eric is the best!!
This session was excellent, the combination you two guys is first rate!
Thanks, Ronan! Jess is great!
This was super direct and easy to follow ... thank you!! :)
Our pleasure! Hope it helps!
I love everything that Jess does.
Me too :) He's great!
Thanks Bob!!!
Thanks..with some early time at the range today I can see the effectiveness of this technique
Thanks, Rob! hope it serves you well!
As a beginner I am trying to build my swing using your videos, after a baseball career I find it difficult to have my weight on the front foot with the driver, I put a lot of hope in this video for my next trip at the range. Thank you for your great channel.
Hey Fred!
IT shouldn't start there but it does need to GO there!
@@CogornoGolf DO you mean I can't mix the "swing for senior" backswing tip (weight on front foot and shirt button towards the sky) and this stack and tilt method ?
My fav golf coach
:) Thanks for watching Barrie!
Great stuff. Enjoy both of your channels. To continued success
Appreciate it!
Great video! I love Stack & Tilt. Has really helped me solve my early extension problem.
Love it! Thanks for being with us!
I love this method. Has really improved my golf after 20 years in the wilderness. Still struggling to transition from backswing down to downswing though.
Check out our series with Milo on starting downswing: th-cam.com/video/jN64PgWhca8/w-d-xo.html
or this one I personally like to feel to start down with lower: th-cam.com/video/fJQn_FzVnjg/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely loved this video.
Thanks, Shaun!
Great drill . I like the way you remind your self about the sequence
Thanks, Ahmad!
I really like the way you guys explained everything. Awesome video. Thank you.
Appreciate it, Bob!
I’ve been a big S&T proponent for a long time. Helps anyone who takes the time to learn the aspects hit the nicest controlled push draws.
Love it!
Jess Frank is the man!
Yessir
Eric is the man! Thank you!
People have always and still are trying to correct my stand and tilt swing. Didn’t know it was a thing. But I’m glad it is and I’m not the only one that’s hits my driver and irons with stack and tilt method
I have always struggled to hit up with driver but tilting hips at address has increased angle of attack. Really helps with increasing loft and carrying ball further. Good tip for golfers who have same issue.
Love it
I bought the Stack 'n' Tilt DVDs years ago and tried the system, and it seemed to work with irons, but I had trouble with the driver. Also, because I've had surgery on my left (leading) knee, I had a VERY hard time with the Stack 'n' Tilt's system of having you start with slightly more weight on your lead leg, and INCREASING the weight onto your lead leg in the down swing, not shifting your weight onto the trail leg as is commonly taught. Felt sharp pain and felt like my lead knee was going to collapse in the back swing, so I gave it up.
Sounds like you found what works for you, Joe! Love it!
I think this video shows an element of S&T on the downswing, not the whole S&T process as you discovered what works best for you. It appears that Jess has somewhat modified the pure S&T swing into a powerful move that many can adopt on the follow thru.
I did this today I noticed a big difference. I was actually amazed how well I was hitting it.
Awesome to hear this, Jamie!
So this if for driver only? 2 different swings?
Definitely some key differences with iron vs driver
Mainly the setup and the body position
I go through those details here: th-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u
And here:
th-cam.com/video/uUSLNi4OSBU/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u
This makes a lot of sense. I hit my irons solid and fairways but struggle with direction and low launch with driver but keeping the head back and rotate my chest on a tilted angle makes a lot of sense. Should work against me tendency to spin out.
Hope it helps!
I started in the 90s when Faldo was at his peak. And leadbetters way was being taught. Great way to play but needs lots of practice. Today its all about S&T or Centered, less moving parts. Which makes it more efficient and not so dependent on timing.
Lots of ways to do it as you mentioned. Some "easier" than others.
Great advice for training for a complete & efficient follow-through!
Thanks, Tom!
Thanks Eric, I get the stack and tilt and I know club head speed is dictated by your legs pushing hard towards the target so is the lead arm turning over a little to close the club face? You be the man! Love ya brother
For sure there will be some lead arm supination in ALL swings.
More with weaker grip...less with stronger grip
th-cam.com/video/8Cg2O8atmYY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/3QQUyRnRSJU/w-d-xo.html
Would be great to get more detail on the S&T transition to bridge the last video and this one. Great stuff.
More to come!
Tom Saguto on YT
G'day Eric. Watching your videos makes me want to get back out on the course again. I think my last round was over 12 months ago and where I live you can play year round. I'll go down to the driving range only 10 minutes away and try some of this instruction. Thanks for the great videos, but damn you make it look easy. Cheers from Aus. :)
:)
Great vid!
Thanks!!
Great tip Eric. I’ll do that 2 or 3 times per round then wonder where it went?? Especially like explanation of tilting of the spine!
Thanks, Ron! Would need to see your swing to say for sure what's going on!
Great tip for the driver. Would you do the same for your long and mid irons?
Yes...just to varying degrees
Explain that here
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The best thing for me to execute a decent drive is establish 3 things at address: tee height, ball placement in my stance, the stance itself. My most optimal position requires that I have a rotation-generated back swing and initiate the down swing with my core and move towards the target in order to make contact with the ball. Not crazy distance, but definitely easy distance!
I love it! Gotta get the basics right!
Love it. Only wish most teachers would use the term lead and trial more than left or right
Thanks, Casey!
I know Saguto says he can really crush his drives with the stack and tilt. Did you find the same thing or do you crush more with YOUR swing? Thanks again for all your useful and helpful content.
Hey Ken!
Absolutely! I have had fantastic results implementing S&T principles into my swing/game, to include the driver.
Thanks so much for watching!
Eric, how does this work if you are using a three wood or five wood off the tee? Thank you and as always great lessons.
Thanks, Ron! Same principles really!
Jess ...smart guy ...knows golf
Awesome guy!
Eric is awesome!
Another great video. I am a little confused by the label stack and tilt though. Your side clips show a lot of great players exhibiting the same movements. Have you just picked out some components of st that align with traditional golf instruction?
Hey Dave!
I think ALL of stack and tilt aligns with good golf swings....depending on who's version you talk to you might be able to pick out 1-2% that someone doesn't agree with but the 3D movements of stack and tilt are simply what good players do....so you should see those elements there :)
Great video Eric. I really struggle with getting my weight to the front side especially with driver. I this video you say “push your weight to the front side” or something like that. What do you mean “push? Should I be pushing of my trail foot to start the down swing to create the tilt forward of the hips? Any help you can give would great!! Thank for your videos!! Love them!
I would imagine you have both feet on a weight scale....
Increase the weight on the left foot to start the downswing
Here is some more resources on moving weight forward and drills:
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@@CogornoGolf thanks Eric!! Will take a look. You are the best!!
Hi eric, are these swing methods same for when hitting irons? Other than the obvious ball placement for drivers being forward?
Hey Adi!
Yes
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Eric, I think it's time for a new mic. Love your videos keep up the great work!
Thanks Diego...sorry about the audio issues!
So does stack and tilt have your tilt forward for irons and back for the driver? Weight forward for hitting down on the ball with shorter clubs and tilted back for hitting up with your driver? Its really two different set ups?
Hey Lincoln! I would check out Jess Frank, Tom Saguto and the other Stack and Tilt certified coaches channels so you can get more info on this!
I wish there was a Stack & Tilt Instructor here in Hawaii. As a Paramedic, this is the only golf swing that makes any sense from a body mechanics perspective. I’m trying to learn how to play golf, but there is no one here that teaches this method.
Maybe find one you can work with online and send videos into!!
Thanks, on top of back swing, how much weight you had in your trail foot? Thanks again
I would say 50/50 at setup
70-30 to the right early in backswing by about half way back (that's pressure in feet) without hips moving right
Back to 50/50 at top
then more left early downswing
Does the same weight shift back and forth also applies to iron shots? Great insight, thanks
Generally speaking yes....it wont be exactly the same but I dont think you need to FEEL anything different. If you were going to work off the ball more that would be with driver...less with irons.
When we tilt to the right, isnt our weight tend to be more on the right too? It's hard for me to move my weight forward when tilting. Without much tilting is good though. Any tips pls?
Hey! Nope. You tilt (side bend) to right....weight stays the same
Is it safe to say this is for driver/fairway woods only? Separate swing for irons?
To some degree....same movements but varying degrees
More on that here
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In a Golf Magazine 3 part series of articles of a long time ago, they kind of said about the same thing but in a different way. But they called it more like getting into an athletic position. They showed where many tour players actually set up this way tilted back before the swing starts and they showed pictures of that. Most importantly they called the bad thing, "left side crunch". They pointed out that when the head is not back, everything "crunches up" on the left side thus robbing power. It is not cleared and crunches up against a steady head in the wrong position (forward). They actually used a body harness with sensors hooked up to a computer to capture the analysis they presented. I think 200 touring pros were analyzed against 400 amateur's on that thing. Then they made artist created drawings of the correct and incorrect positions.. I spent many hours replicating it, and it was all true. It really revived my sagging golf game. Frankly, I was doing everything wrong and I was a fairly accomplished player. It also helps you to hit the ball much straighter. They also stressed the "levelness" (turning level around one's spin only" as a key ingredient.
Is there a practice mar/net that you’d recommend for indoors?
Hey Johannes!
Unfortunately I cannot say any off the top of my mind I like the most. Hope you find some good ones!
I started using ST method in last month of season much easier on my back I had surgery on L4 L5 5 years ago. I also hit my first 300 yard drive in 15 years and my last round birdied 4 out of my last 7 holes with a lip out or it would have been 5. Consider me a convert easier to repeat swing with less practice time which is also big for me cause I work 6 days a week I want to play on my day off
Glad you found a good solution Frank!!
Nice vid...now if I can just emulate what your doing....I need a LOT of help...
:) www.cogornogolf.com sign up so you can send in your swings!
stack and tilt for the win
:)
Implementing stack and tilt into my swing has been the only thing that’s given me consistent contact. My body doesn’t move like it used to and getting my tempo, timing and weight shift consistently right has been frustrating. But keeping that weight planted on the lead foot has helped tremendously
Love it!
Interested in you teaching offering. What is needed to get instruction from you?? Are you able to get days from the ball from a video like you can with a Trakman?? Had 3 cervical neck fusions over the last 11 yrs and just got back to playing again. Having a hard time hitting my irons as I can hit "down" any longer. Rarely take a divot, but hitting the driver fairly good distance and super straight.
Previously a + handicap golfer and played collegiate golf....
Let me know what your able to do with your instruction.
Hey Bryan!
We do all of our coaching online at www.cogornogolf.com
Give it a look and send us a message to service@cogornogolf.com if you have any questions!
I'm sure you will love it!
Head back, shoulder under, arms extended. Got ya. 👍🏻
Yessir!
What is shown here is that there is a moment where weight is transferred onto the right foot. I have been trying to do a stack and tilt driver swing without ever transferring the weight like this, and I find that I am struggling to maintain my balance, and it feels awkward. Is it true that moving weight to the back foot momentarily is recommended?
Little pressure shift to trail foot very early
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This is kind of what shawn clement teaches. Great video
Love it!
On address, what’s the weight distribution?
50/50 is a good place to start from my perspective
More forward with shorter clubs
Is this swing only for the Driver?
Hey Pete! Nope--same general ideas to varying degrees with irons
More on that here
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@@CogornoGolf Thanks Great Job
Am I not understanding but Eric seems to be too far on his right at setup. I thought setup using stack and tilt should be more centered with more weight on the left side. Correct?
Thanks for the feedback....I believe they would suggest something like 60/40 Left or 55/45.....we weren't really focused on that aspect here.
Thanks for watching!
They should have just called this Tilt, nobody would argue with that and every good golfer tilts regardless of weight transfer. It's just easier for us non tour pros to make sure our hips and weight are correct with stack n tilt.
12:30.Weight on left foot??
Absolutely!
this sport is so complicated that when I watch video like this one I start to think to give up golf
Lol i hear ya
start at 1:38
:)
@@CogornoGolf I'm getting into your stack and tilt methods. I've watched your videos for a couple years and enjoy your content.
What about this is stack and tilt?
When I first saw stack and tilt I said “oh yeah, another wacky golf swing video”, but I am a complete convert. You will better shots more consistently than ever before.
:) Appreciate you being here with us!
Doing this in my kitchen and feels kind of like a baseball swing
Parts of it!
I thought the tilt was during the take back. You tilt your front shoulder down towards the ball as you bring the club back so that your head is over the ball. That's the stack. If you don't tilt your torso down your head moves slightly behind the ball as you go back.
Yes
Left shoulder down in backswing
Right shoulder down in downswing
Thats the "tilt" part
the "stack" is keeping the sternum on top of center of pelvis in the backswing (that includes the extension and turn parts)
@@CogornoGolf Awesome. Thank you! Any tips or videos on how to initiate the down swing? I feel like that is where things go wrong (when they do) -- the initial movement and how to keep your balance and tilt as you get your body rotating back open.
Yes
watch this series
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Rick shield has a video on driver that is very similar to this....
:) Thanks for watching!
I love the straight arms idea, but I would add that they should BE STRAIGHTENED by the proper physics of gravity and by a natural pendulum motion, and not by the arms clenching to straighten things out. The clenching will kill everything. Natural motion will allow not only for length and arc, but also for the arms/wrists/club all to turn over naturally.
Appreciate your feedback, Erich! Thank you for watching!
Well, at least we're not killing each other (yet) over different swing philosophies, so we've got that going for us, which is nice.
Agreed!
:)
Eric, interview Tom Saguto- the REAL Stack and Tilt guru. Interesting fun guy.
Hey Mark!
We might just be doing some videos with Tom next month :) But don't tell anyone that....supposed to be a surprise!
The real Stack and Tilt guru is the founder himself Andy Plummer.
Sorry; can't deal with Saguto's silliness. Truly irritating.
How is this different than a conventional swing? I don't see any "stack" move, just the "tilt".
Agreed Wayne....stack and tilt and conventional swing are very similar :) Which is part of the whole point----good catch!
The Pros shown do not swing at S&T, and even their swings could be classified into leading side/trailing side domination (rotate the left or right hip to activate the rotation of the club).
I also hate the couch to spend lots of time to explain what is wrong and do just a few for the right. We just need to get right image not the wrong one.
Based on the demonstration of Mike Bennett, his S&T is quite different than the video shows. His swing partly same as Rory (right side domination) but without a downward trailing arm extension. Maybe this is just for advocating a convenient way of golf swing for armature golfers.
Please don't talk about Charlie Wi, his swing is 100% not the S&T!
I cannot explain it, but after 20 years of playing and lessons, I have a very negative reaction to stack and tilt. I have tried it several times, and I hate it.
Thats OK....all the best!
I thought this was sliding? I do this and have been trying to stop?
watch this one should clarify things: th-cam.com/video/BUk-KLh_k20/w-d-xo.html
check this one out for clarification Kip:
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Stack n tilt doesn’t let you hit up with the driver that’s where the problem is. Sure lots of pros hit slightly down on it. But they want that to hit a fade , pretty hard to hit down and have a nice high long draw
Thanks for the feedback!
Of course that's too broad of a statement. I have plenty of friends who teach/use stack and tilt (which is simply a 3d description of what goes on in a good swing) and hit up and far.
Stack and Tilt was one pattern O’Grady and MORAD taught for short irons only. Was never supposed to be used for long irons or driver. If you can make it work great, but Baddeley failed miserably at the US Open using it
Eric, why does your channel have so many commercials?
That is how he makes his money. He doesn't do this for free.
Gotta pay the bills man!
It's not CHEAP nor easy to film and produce all of these videos without charging any $.
The pain of the commercials :- they come just as Eric starts his downswing.
Enjoy your videos but you need to work on the Sound. So much static from your mic, and this is not the First time. Will make your videos so much more enjoyable👍
Thanks, Anders. Agreed! We need to get better. Sorry about that.