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  • Should you get a QD-OLED monitor or is WOLED the best OLED panel tech?
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  • @techlessYT
    @techlessYT  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Update: I've added some of the new QD-OLED and WOLED releases to the list in the description.

  • @binary132
    @binary132 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Almost every one of the side-by-sides make the QD-OLED panel on the left look WAY better, at least on my iPhone’s display.

    • @exisskrk
      @exisskrk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      probably just a camera angle difference. to compare them properly he would need to record each monitor from a typical viewing position and put those two videos side by side. I wouldn't judge colour or brightness difference based on this video

    • @handycartmexican5640
      @handycartmexican5640 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s because it is better it’s combining QLED colors and brightness with OLEDS black levels and clarity

    • @NoOneTwoTrust
      @NoOneTwoTrust 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s is better

  • @MisterPikol
    @MisterPikol ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for the link in description, really helpful !

  • @andypacey9266
    @andypacey9266 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Clear and consise as usual, glad to see your channel growing, one of the best out there for fluff free information. Looking forward to your review of the 49” Samsung oled monitor shown at CES

  • @nikoleigraham8747
    @nikoleigraham8747 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    thank you so much for mentioning which panel has the most beautiful colors. That is the only feature I care about, and no one else would mention this information. QDOLED for me all the way. :)

  • @koushiro86
    @koushiro86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The QD OLED colors looked more vibrant and the WOLED blacks looked better under light but who looks at these displays with their room lights all the way up?

    • @fpcawolff
      @fpcawolff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Me.

    • @razor2049
      @razor2049 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And every streamer

  • @selohcin
    @selohcin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great informational video! Thank you for making this.

  • @F3ARL388
    @F3ARL388 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very informative. Thank you

  • @rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980
    @rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It might be worth updating this video, regarding the burn-in, as it was proven that the setup at Rtings wasn't correct for the (QD) oleds. Their compensation cycles hadn't been running as expected, which skewed the results of their video. This has been addressed in some of their later videos.

    • @inceptionsd
      @inceptionsd หลายเดือนก่อน

      What makes you think that this problem is completely solved, though? Samsung has been notorious for their incompetence to deliver a fully functional product and honestly, this firmware bug is IMO one of the most serious flaws they made as a company. I wouldn't trust them with my wallet.

    • @rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980
      @rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@inceptionsd I have no way of knowing if it's completely fixed. But it is absolutely worth mentioning that the issue doesn't stem from an inherent weakness with the technology (as it's no weaker regarding burn-in than LG's w-oled), but rather it was a programming issue.

    • @inceptionsd
      @inceptionsd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 Well, in order to produce blue light (any blue light), you need highest possible levels of light purity and light intensity, so in order to achieve comparable brightness to the red and green, you either drive them with more voltage or make them bigger than the rest. And since a QD-OLED panel uses only blue pixels, there is technically higher chance of developing burn-in compared to WOLED, but of course, there are other factors which determine its efficiency which are adjustable. I think it is still too early to tell how efficient/resilient these Samsung QD-OLED panels are with regular use. Only time will tell.

    • @inceptionsd
      @inceptionsd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 "(as it's no weaker regarding burn-in than LG's w-oled" Well, technically it is at a higher risk because it uses blue OLED pixels exclusively, and in order to produce blue light (any light) you need highest possible light purity and intensity, which is, along with using special materials for production either achieved by increasing pixel size or driving more voltage to them, and because of these factors, blue pixels degrade the fastest. So in theory yes, QD-OLED has more risk of developing burn-in. Of course, there are other factors that further improve or worsen its overall reliability, but I guess we will have to wait and see, since QD-OLED is still quite new tech (compared to WOLED, at least).

    • @rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980
      @rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@inceptionsd So far the test results from rtings is showing that they are no weaker though. But yes, time is the ultimate test, so let's see what happens.

  • @Flakka-
    @Flakka- 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Excited for the new OLED monitors coming in 2024. Doing a deep dive on learning the differences now

  • @trocoplaytv1254
    @trocoplaytv1254 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Not only can qdoled typically almost always reach higher nits in real scenes. But it also doesn't use a white pixel to raise brightness. When you use said white pixel the white mixes with the colors causing them to wash out the brighter the color gets.
    This is extremely important
    Figured as you never mentioned this I should fill in any consumers in the comments :)

    • @MrAcuta73
      @MrAcuta73 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for that....I have always thought QD-OLED looked "off" to me for some reason I couldn't identify. Now I think I know what it is. Personal preference thing, I guess!

    • @trocoplaytv1254
      @trocoplaytv1254 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @MrAcuta73 there's nothing wrong with liking innacurate colors :)
      In the same way that people can like oversaturated colors people can like them washed out Aka undersaturated.
      Just most people would who do like inaccurate colors prefer them super vivid and bright and oversaturated, people preferring washed out colors is a rarity so I figured I should let the consumers know :D

    • @tatianaes3354
      @tatianaes3354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Most important thing the lad always forgets to say that in real life situations with the room lightened, LCD monitors are as good or better with actual contrast all while not having issues with burn-in or text rendering.

    • @trocoplaytv1254
      @trocoplaytv1254 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @Tatiana ES well that's just factually incorrect. My ceiling light in my small room being on barely even effects my aw3423dw, but it actually makes my ips monitor alot worse. To be fair that's likely because of the matte finish spreading the light across the entire screen but still. Only when I open my blinds and it's 2-4 pm is the light enough to make me prefer either my ips monitor, my ips portable monitor, ips laptops, nor my tn 2566k for csgo.
      You know how phones still look good when it's bright out? And only look bad with direct light on them? Phones are oled.
      You also know how we never worry about burn out on phones? The things we use so haphazardly in wild temperatures and never pixel refresh nor use "careful screen saving and turn off the apps and use a black phone home screen and use" no we do none of that.
      These are things people who wish they had oleds say everytime.
      Yes burn in exists. And yes if you care about getting a monitor you won't need to replace you shouldn't get an oled. But if you want the best looking monitor it's always oled period. Even in bright scenarios.
      Text fringing is accurate. But Goodluck spotting that in text in media rather than for work focused applications
      Long story short , raised blacks on an oled still look better than raised blacks on already raised blacks of an ips. Plus it'll have blooming like crazy. Plus worse color pop due to a lack of individually lit pixels

    • @tatianaes3354
      @tatianaes3354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@trocoplaytv1254 You correctly mention the fact that whether the screen surface is matte or not is also crucial. But my point is correct for equal conditions. Due to OLEDs being so much dimmer than LEDs, they have to remove the polariser layer, and due to that OLED screens are almost a mirror (because they are: under the glass, the actual light-emitting layer is tens of thousands of microscopic shiny metal wires). Way worse than LCD screens. The amount of light OLED screen reflect is way bigger than even the worst leaking LCD screen shows in its “black” colour.
      THE ONLY solution is to get rid of organic LEDs, which are very non-effective due to the moleculae been so huge that it grabs photons it emitted back due to its size and curves. Using non-organic LEDs will allow to bring the polariser filter back.
      True micro-LED screens are expected to be debuted in mass production by Apple (it owns most patents and has a couple of the biggest laboratories on this for years), but in the beginning it will be only available in small devices like Apple Watch. It will take forever to get it in monitors.
      But this alone is not enough. There is still a lot of excessive wirings. Thus, the ultimate solution is going to be a LET matrix display, which will replace diodes with transistors, what will allow to get rid of the whole separate transistor matrix that is now necessary to control the diodes. This will dramatically decrease display reflections. The issue is that LET matrices are many years away even for the tiniest devices.

  • @iceberglounge
    @iceberglounge ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Your examples of the colors around the edges for text was helpful. Holding off on oled because I’m mainly productivity soo I see mostly text and I feel like the weird sub pixel layout would bother me

    • @hrgstephen2738
      @hrgstephen2738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JOLED is your choice, such as LG 27 or 32 EP950, Philips 27E1N8900

    • @zues287
      @zues287 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's really not noticeable, unless you put your face right up to the screen. That said, OLED still isn't really ready for productivity use. Burn-in is still guaranteed with regular productivity use. It's gotten better, but it's inherent to the technology. Micro LED will finally give OLED a run for it's money, but that's years away.

    • @RotemE
      @RotemE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think the solution for text clarity is to get a high PPI monitor and use Windows' scaling option. For example, a 27" UHD (3840x2160) monitor with 150% scaling gives you a "logical" workspace of QHD (2560x1440), which is plenty, and for each "logical" pixel you get 2.25 real pixels, which should take care of text rendering issues (regardless of pixel layout). Of course you still get the full 4K for videos and games.

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Funnily I don't have any issues with fringing or any other weird edges on the letters.
      But the main issue I have with my newly bought WOLED is the crappy grey tints - Windows 11 in dark mode looks like crap.

    • @markmd9
      @markmd9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For working at computer the best are IPS monitors with glossy surface.
      They have bright colors, great viewing angles and can stay on 24/7.
      And the great thing is that they are cheap.

  • @brian770
    @brian770 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    in the side by side at 3:55 - 4:25 the WO color looks washed out and lackluster while the QD looks so vibrant, that would be a easy choice if favor of the QD.

  • @tragicevans4157
    @tragicevans4157 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOLED panels use White Oled as backlight & extra layer of color filter RGBW while QD-OLED use Blue Oled as backlit & Quantum Dot Red & Green directly to emit colors.

  • @chanm01
    @chanm01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Fantastic and informative video, with some really practical and well considered consumer advice.
    So many OLED choices.
    And none of them within my budget. 😅

    • @Deathwatch31
      @Deathwatch31 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      theres definitely good deals out there on ebay and amazon, I scored my LG WOLED on amazon used like new for 650!

  • @marcel1463
    @marcel1463 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sehr gut erklärt. Danke für das Video.

  • @chrismmkkhfd1311
    @chrismmkkhfd1311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    30 seconds in I already know I want a QOLED based off the color pop

  • @NoGoodNick_
    @NoGoodNick_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great and useful video. Would have been awesome to have section markers, in particular a marker to the Text Rendering section. Thanks!

  • @Dr.WhetFarts
    @Dr.WhetFarts ปีที่แล้ว +4

    QD has much better colors than regular WOLED (1st and 2nd gen). 3rd gen WOLED (META/MLA) is better than the first ones but QD-OLED still is better

    • @zues287
      @zues287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too bad burn-in seems to be a bigger problem for QD-OLED. I still own an AW3423DWF. As my first OLED display it really is mind blowing how good games look on it. I baby mine by only using it for gaming. I use an IPS for everything else, so fingers crossed mine will last 5 years at least. Conjecture seems to be that Samsung is going through some teething problems with their first foray into OLED. Some monitors are getting burn-in within a month, while others that haven't taken preventative measures for a year have no burn in. It seems right now it's all in panel lottery until Samsung gets the kinks worked out.

  • @youtubevanced4900
    @youtubevanced4900 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use a QD-OLED every day for work reading documents. The text is completely clear. I have it side by side with my old IPS and the text clarity is identical.
    This is such an overblown issue. I don't look at my screen with a microscope to see the problem your showing.
    No burn in yet but it is something I worry about. Been almost a year now.
    If it does burn in, hopefully it happens within the first 3 years so I can replace it under warranty.

    • @richmahogany1710
      @richmahogany1710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just force it to burn in 2 years and 11 months in. You just won the game.

  • @jasonthrowaway7386
    @jasonthrowaway7386 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very helpful, thank you

  • @AB-nv7bz
    @AB-nv7bz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From a purely aesthetic standpoint. QD is better, but it definitely has a higher risk of burn in. For watching content or playing games (potential hud burn it though), QD is better. If you are more multi purpose (work and play) WOLED is the better option. Honeslty you are better off buying a cheap LCD monitor for work, and using these for play.

  • @KG_BM
    @KG_BM ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:42 the Alienware QDOLED variants ALSO have antiglare. its actually just unique to this phillips model you have for a smaller than 42" to even have a glossy display

    • @pepelaugh4091
      @pepelaugh4091 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats not glossy either
      Phillips states anti-glare coating, therefore its matt
      you can't have both, it's one or the other

    • @Frosty_V0
      @Frosty_V0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pepelaugh4091Wrong, semi-gloss exists.

  • @sexysilversurfer
    @sexysilversurfer ปีที่แล้ว

    Still using an old monitor from 2012! Have two newer ones just sitting in their boxes.

  • @K_a_l_e_d_
    @K_a_l_e_d_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I wish you could put both the Asus PG27AQN and the PG27AQDM head to head, if you happen to get a hold of them that would be very interesting comparison!

  • @Germanbattle83
    @Germanbattle83 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very clear and objective information, thanks a lot I am pondering buying an Oled monitor cause I am completely in love eith my LG C2 TV, you made some very important points to think twice and consider that an oled is not necessarily better for PC usage, really good stuff, thank you for your work!

    • @Dokimes-rb6iz
      @Dokimes-rb6iz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I personally use IPS (LCD) as my pc monitor for productivity at the desk, and an OLED portable monitor for movies-series-games when on the couch or bed (I only play games with a controller tho)

  • @EdePete89
    @EdePete89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as known red light in the Night phase is glowing more far than other colars. maybe by making the red surface smaller or make Day to Night Red Dimming? also the Darker monitor is better for darker rooms. i have also seen the colordiference while the QD has Red strong and WO has Blue.

  • @n1ght139
    @n1ght139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you going to check out the AOC Gaming 25G3ZM/BK, its a 240hz VA really well priced with good contrast numbers and would love to see your opinion on it, keep up the good work :))

  • @radimmeduna5764
    @radimmeduna5764 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video on the MSI G2422 monitor? Would be very appreciated :D

  • @tonytino4509
    @tonytino4509 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adi 2 pro looks very nice on your desk. Can you please make a review video for me? I’m considering getting one.😁😁😁

  • @nihjgutz
    @nihjgutz ปีที่แล้ว

    Was hast du eigentlich alles für Einstellungen am LG vorgenommen?

  • @inceptionsd
    @inceptionsd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both WOLED and QD-OLED are emissive technologies, which means that their pixels are the source of light and color, but there is a big difference at how the final image is produced. With WOLED it's pretty much straight-farward. You have RGB sub-pixels which create colors and a white subpixel to further help boost overall brightness. QD-OLEDs, on the other hand use only Blue OLED pixels as a backlight, essentially and then use a Quantum Dot Layer with red and green color-based phosphorous which is illuminated by the UV light produced by Blue OLED pixels. The raised blacks are then the result of a QD layer being passively illuminated by an ambient blue light (UV light) which turns on those red and green QD sub-pixels and since the red phosphorous has a much higher light intensity, you get a reddish/purple tint on your screen when it is "off". So in order to mitigate this issue, Samsung needs to find a better way of blocking external light (UV, in particular) from entering the QD layer. My guess is that they can implement a much stronger light filter and aggressive coating, but this would probably affect picture quality, so they are looking for less invasive ways to do it.

  • @Crown0815
    @Crown0815 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does someone have information about white or colored text on black/gray background? I'm a developer and i'm using the dark theme in visual stuido. i'm concerned about the text issues (red and green lines)

  • @Daniel-vk7rr
    @Daniel-vk7rr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are there any oled monitors in the works with a better subpixel layout for all-around use?

  • @ts8960
    @ts8960 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    than you for mentioning the text issues. personally very important for me and all other videos dont talk about it

  • @ExGen8
    @ExGen8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there monitors like BenQ EX2510 on the market right now? (or maybe announced) looking for same price range but can go with some expense if it has even better color accuracy (and maybe QHD 27``, like +1.7 of FHD 24`` size and res)

  • @aurelwedding6041
    @aurelwedding6041 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you get your fluidart backgrounds?

  • @3bsy_
    @3bsy_ ปีที่แล้ว

    pls i need an answer should i get gigabyte g24f or the benq ex2510s for competitive gaming at 165hz like which is faster

  • @plumpudding2
    @plumpudding2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent choice of dac!

  • @igordasunddas3377
    @igordasunddas3377 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I currently have a MSI Prestige 34 inch monitor with 5120*2160@60hz and 8+2 Bits of color. I'd be heavily interested in a 38" or 40" inch monitor with the same resolution, but OLED and ideally a nice brightness.

    • @layzie45
      @layzie45 ปีที่แล้ว

      40-45" for me but at that resolution and 120hz or higher. I use my LG CX 48" at 3840x1646 ultrawide and it's beautiful. I'm just missing the curve.

    • @FyyMyy
      @FyyMyy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      60hz 💀

  • @MrDutch1e
    @MrDutch1e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't know if it's just the camera picking it up but the qd oled looks drastically brighter in the side by side scenes. If I was going off this video I'd think the qd oled blows the woled out of the water.

    • @-XTC-
      @-XTC- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Camera exposure. And besides that, no one has the brightness setting above 50% anyway...

    • @MrDutch1e
      @MrDutch1e 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-XTC- they most definitely have the brightness setting above 50% on an oled. The WOLED from LG needs 100% brightness just to be close to usable.

    • @-XTC-
      @-XTC- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrDutch1e complete nonsense. I have a C2 and 50% brightness is more than enough, actually im using it on 35-40%

    • @MrDutch1e
      @MrDutch1e 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @-XTC- I'm talking about these specific monitors. Not TVs. The lg oled monitor is extremely dim to the point it's hardly usable. Especially in SDR.

    • @-XTC-
      @-XTC- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MrDutch1e hm, okay. Fair enough. But if i remember correctly, the asus/acer versions were quite a bit brigther. So it's not a particular WOLED problem.

  • @brkbtjunkie
    @brkbtjunkie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a Lg c2, and besides the perfect blacks, I’m not really in love with it like I thought I would be. Even my $350 USD vizio M series 2019 QD has a better color gamut and higher color volume. The biggest thing about oled I do not like is the sample and hold. It keeps each frame on screen for 40% longer than my old Vizio that uses a traditional VA panel, making everything appear like it’s stuttering. This is especially noticeable below 60hz. I’m actually going to return it and either get a TCL 6 2022 model or a Samsung QN90C

    • @markmd9
      @markmd9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you tried the options that makes the motion smooth?

    • @RedPMD
      @RedPMD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i bet you didn't configure all the settings correctly. if you don't care about going through the settings, do not get OLED.

    • @agentnukaz1715
      @agentnukaz1715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I thought OLED had instantaneous pixel response

  • @JynxedKoma
    @JynxedKoma 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Techless, would you suggest either the Philips Evnia or Samsung Ody G8?

  • @GinoFoto
    @GinoFoto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I using WRGB OLED as a PC monitor for more than two years by now, I no encounter any sign of image degradation.

  • @izopen
    @izopen ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks 😊links to the flamingo and leaves wallpapers please

  • @sebastiankueppers7105
    @sebastiankueppers7105 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ich habe jetzt seit 1 Woche den ROG PG42UQ. Die Farben und der Schwarzwert sind echt der Hammer. Endlich perfektes Schwarz ohne Glow und Bleeding.

  • @ahmedmr7662
    @ahmedmr7662 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello what is the best xg27aqm or pg279qm or aw2723df

  • @PrefoX
    @PrefoX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I had the LG Oled 27" and I was able to see the pixel grid (black lines between the pixels) at a normal view distance... ultra bad

  • @sumit7064
    @sumit7064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you planning to review G24F 2 anytime soon?

  • @HeLithium
    @HeLithium ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got the KTC G27P6 which uses the same WOLED panel
    It's much cheaper than the AOC or Acer model here in China
    Gosh this panel is really good for pvp shooter games

    • @hassantm4732
      @hassantm4732 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you ship one for me internationally?

    • @agentnukaz1715
      @agentnukaz1715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would buy one but I rly want 240hz or 4k, the 4k ktc is too small for my taste

    • @HeLithium
      @HeLithium 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agentnukaz1715 I’ve switched to lg c3 last month. 4k sure is really great.

  • @DarkionAvey
    @DarkionAvey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:23 the qd oled panel looks like an IPS panel in this shot. What a bummer... I wanted to buy samsung odyssey G9 OLED monitor.

  • @SmoothTiger
    @SmoothTiger ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah I thought the 34 inch LG WOLED PANEL would be coming in Q1? Is it only starting production by then? And if so, when do you think this panel will hit the market?

  • @deathkiller_bd1467
    @deathkiller_bd1467 ปีที่แล้ว

    gigabyte g24f 2 and LG 24gn650.
    Which one is good can you suggest me?

  • @petrkubena
    @petrkubena 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would be the fringing any better on LCD vs WOLED? It has the same order of subpixels with the exception of extra white that doesn't add to fringing (theoretically it makes it less visible, because red and green subpixels are thinner).

  • @Aedrrow
    @Aedrrow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hahaha nice German Easter Egg in the End. Man sieht sich✌️

  • @wilddropbear7215
    @wilddropbear7215 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All i can say is that i have had a 55 inch LG CX Oled tv both on my ps5 and Pc for the last 4 or 5 years and i have no burn in, I do a lot of gaming and watch youtube and anime a lot, I don't usually have a Sports or news logo stuck to my screen or anything and i am more likely to have a video games health bar stuck to my screen but i have no burn in yet

  • @1stRanger
    @1stRanger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which should you go for? Neither. Go for miniLED.

  • @--legion
    @--legion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Don't buy WOLED if you don't want colour-shifting or tinting which, I've discovered, is common with WOLED. Light areas, when directly in front, are warm (pink) on left and cool (blue) on right. Off-axis viewing results in uniformly cool. This colour-shifting is most noticeable in B&W content.

    • @JoeyGageyt
      @JoeyGageyt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i’d rather have this than magenta blacks with the lights on

  • @mieu6677
    @mieu6677 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a review for AOC Q24G2? Please^^

  • @BrianMartin2007
    @BrianMartin2007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny how flat panels have these issues of fringing when a high quality or high end CRT wouldn't really until it got some life on it and then would just need an adjustment

  • @daves3108
    @daves3108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Alot of people don't do this but you cna easily get your colors brighter and more punchy on a woled in the Nvidia settings in hdr instead only using the monitors settings. Alot gets greyed out on the monitor settings when you turn hdr on. Just a tip I've used both the qd oled and woled. You can make woledook better just takes tweeting and not expecting editing type colors and accuracy

    • @carloscorona3143
      @carloscorona3143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How can I do that ?

    • @daves3108
      @daves3108 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have am nvidia gpu just go into the nvidia display settings and find it. Can control brightness, contrast, saturation and I think gamma or hue

    • @carloscorona3143
      @carloscorona3143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I actually didn't know that

  • @carminealiberti1810
    @carminealiberti1810 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know something about XG27AQV?? There isn't any review

  • @teddyoflove5897
    @teddyoflove5897 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Using LG C2 42inch Woled as a work/gaming monitor for almost a year now, spend 8-14hours on it daily and 0 image burn in. Either Im lucky or tech has already advanced enough that its not that much of a problem. I personally think people who get image retention on these newer models either get defected panel or they dont use them enough to move pixels around. Like if you work for 8hours with very static image and then game for 2-6 hours I would think pixels gets to move around and dont remain stuck. But thats just my theory.

    • @LouSaydus
      @LouSaydus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Burn in is seriously overstated. If you arent using your monitor like an absolute madman, you will be fine. Use screen saver, dont leave your monitor on over night, and auto hide static elements like task bars and such

    • @KingsDR
      @KingsDR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@LouSaydusfacts. I feel like people that get burn in either leave their monitor on 24/7 or turn off OLED care features.

  • @MrAcuta73
    @MrAcuta73 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The "burn in" issue will be avoidable just like it was with CRT monitors. You make sure you use hibernation function on the monitor, and for shorter durations, you use a screen saver. I would still say OLED of any flavor would be a TERRIBLE idea for someone that stares at spreadsheets all day. lol

    • @landonp629
      @landonp629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd avoid a screensaver and just use a motion wallpaper.

    • @xNTFXx
      @xNTFXx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would just enable "turn of the display" setting in windows 10 after 10 minutes.

    • @spectrent
      @spectrent 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@landonp629 what about the programs on your desktop or the taskbar if you dont have it disappearing like every normal person lmao.

    • @landonp629
      @landonp629 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spectrent I guess you just have to have it auto-hide. It's not that big of a deal, and it can save burn-in more-so than even a screensaver would.

  • @Wistbacka
    @Wistbacka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You say only text and not graphics is affected by the color fringing from the subpixel layout. Is that true for photo/video editing too? Or will each pixel cast a sight color tint thus screwing up any color accurate work?

    • @techlessYT
      @techlessYT  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fringing will be most visible on sharp edges, so text and graphics are affected the most. But you might be able to spot this with some photos or videos as well depending on the image. Color tint isn't an issue though once profiled - it's just the fringing.

    • @Wistbacka
      @Wistbacka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@techlessYTThanks for the reply! Much appreciated.
      But if each pixel fringes, doesnt that then mean each pixel will technically emit the wrong color?
      I'm getting more and more the feeling I should avoid OLEDs for photo editing. Although, Asus's most expensive (per size) ProArt monitor is a WOLED monitor...

  • @koblongata
    @koblongata 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why so far I only get small cheap portable AMOLED monitors, and settle for scanline sync instead of proper g-sync freesync... Eyeing on JOLED, but it's dying and way too expensive and no sync feature too...

  • @macbrush
    @macbrush 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    luminance overshoot is a huge let down with WOLED displays.

  • @xgunnas32
    @xgunnas32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the QD actually looks alot better in the dark, but if the lights are on...

  • @krzysztofporazik543
    @krzysztofporazik543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this the same with TV's?

  • @mugetz696
    @mugetz696 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IF g-sync is a must or you hate coilwhine? Don't get OLED or QD-OLED period. You with have g-sync flickering and most likely fans that are more noisy then your GPU. I tried 3 different OLED and all had this issue.
    IF you dont care about g-sync or fan/coilwhine noise get an OLED or QD-OLED. IT has the best picture quality.

    • @Gecko730
      @Gecko730 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The samsung oleg g8 has no fan

  • @GroteGlon
    @GroteGlon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Comparing motion clarity between 2 different refreshrates is just extremely scuffed

  • @ed4313
    @ed4313 ปีที่แล้ว

    27GR95QE vs X27U. Can anyone tell which is better?

  • @Merlinio1000
    @Merlinio1000 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Lmao, i watched a couple of videos of yours and never realized that you are german until the end of this video

    • @chrisdxb8711
      @chrisdxb8711 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      He has about the strongest German accent out there

    • @Akeruyri
      @Akeruyri ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What do you think that accent is my guy

    • @Austrium1483
      @Austrium1483 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He sounds extremely german

    • @max_xt98
      @max_xt98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hört man

    • @theamericanaromantic
      @theamericanaromantic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where the fuck did you think he was from…Florida? 😅

  • @Bdot888
    @Bdot888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will let the oled monitor market flesh out more and get cheaper before I make the jump. But for now i love my LG C2. But I mostly use it for movies, shows, and youtube. I need to try some more gaming on it. But since I mostly play competitive games, my LG ultragear 1440p 165hz monitor meets my needs for now

    • @zues287
      @zues287 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gaming on an OLED is game changing. Not all games have proper HDR implementation, though. Jedi Survivor is an example of a recent game with good HDR (even though the game still stutters a good bit). Doom Eternal is also really good. The most mind-blowingly beautiful game on OLED I've played so though is "Ori and the Will of the Wisps." My jaw literally dropped the first time I played it on my OLED monitor after originally playing the game on my LG Ultragear 27" 1440p 165hz monitor (I'm guessing it's the same monitor as yours). It's a night and day difference.

    • @Bdot888
      @Bdot888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zues287 Hell yeah! I love ori and I can only imagine its great on oled! I beat the first one but haven't completed the second game, so I will definitely put it up on the oled. I bet those colors pop with the dark background!

  • @-XTC-
    @-XTC- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    42C2 glossy woled with custom 21:9 resolution for gaming wins in my opinion. For productivity 16:9 4k >>> all. And who uses brightness settings above 50% anyway? I have 3 meters of floor to ceiling high windows on my right side and it is no issue at all. Disabled all dimming features via service menus. No burn in whatsoever after 1,5 years and 7500 hours of usage.

  • @martinhubenak5828
    @martinhubenak5828 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great alternative to $700 for 32 inches and 3840 x 2160 pixels?

  • @Klar
    @Klar ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The text visibility just kills it for me, I had the misfortune of having to use a curved VA panel (which has slightly wider pixels) and the texts looked so awful I was about to puke. After about 2 years of being forced to use it I can say that you definitely get used to it, but anyone else that sees your monitor notices the text being off almost instantly. That being said my number one test from now on on any monitor I'm going to buy is black text on a white background and other chrome/essential program tests because I use these daily and anything being off is instantly noticeable.

    • @20puskinas1992
      @20puskinas1992 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is just stupid. Spending this money people obviously gonna use it for gaming and movies. You can buy 200 monitor for text if you want. Stop being a baby.

    • @fward
      @fward ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My plan is to have single purpose monitors. I have 2 monitors right now, but for productivity I almost exclusively use my 34 inch ultrawide IPS. I'm going to replace my second monitor with an OLED and game on it (too many games I play don't support the ultrawide aspect ratio well anyway). So the IPS will be used for text, and the oled for games. I'll have some cross pollination but not all the time, so the drawbacks shouldn't be as big of a deal.

    • @jonathanz9889
      @jonathanz9889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting first time hearing about this issue on curved VA's too, is the current Neo G7 G8 subject to the same? Haven't seen people bring this up and was considering getting one

    • @winebartender6653
      @winebartender6653 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have no idea what monitor you have but what you're describing has nothing to do with IPS vs VA.

    • @winebartender6653
      @winebartender6653 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@jonathanz9889 Because it's not a thing. "Pixel size" has literally nothing to do with VA or IPS lmao

  • @AdiiS
    @AdiiS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a QD-OLED G8 and it is the most awesome monitor :)=

  • @halvaargniberg1086
    @halvaargniberg1086 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Herrlich, Danke.

  • @brett20000000009
    @brett20000000009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worth mentioning the woled has raised blacks in ambient light too MLA + matte coating doesn't help with this.

  • @Erksah68
    @Erksah68 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ill be very frank. I do not notice the difference, even in productivity work. I have the LG Oled and a omen x25f side by side and the aforementioned is an improvement in every single way imaginable.

    • @thesnackman
      @thesnackman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also have the LG OLED and have not been bothered by the text at all. I suppose I can SEE the text fringing...but to say it is a reason not to buy the monitor? No way. This monitor is amazing in pretty much every way.

  • @Darksprit17
    @Darksprit17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    all those comparissons to boil down essentialy to monitor size, might as well just say that in the begining since there are so few solutions out there...

  • @shiftyplays9550
    @shiftyplays9550 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TL:DR anyone? which is the best for ultra graphics for gaming?

  • @purityce3487
    @purityce3487 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its pretty noticeable that the images in the woled is alot darker than the qdoled.

    • @N0N0111
      @N0N0111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And whites turns into blue tints.

  • @LuoSKr4D
    @LuoSKr4D 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:00 is all well and good but the fact is out of these two monitors only alienware offers burn in warranty.

  • @binary132
    @binary132 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My QD-OLED arrives tomorrow and I’m really curious to see how bad the “black lift” is in my computer room. I have a couple of windows and it’s fairly sunny, but no direct lighting.

    • @FJAD94
      @FJAD94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell us your experience:)

    • @binary132
      @binary132 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FJAD94 it’s gorgeous! Haven’t had a chance to try HDR native on it yet, but it looks amazing. Lighting not a problem at all, super bright and rich, blacks deep black

    • @FJAD94
      @FJAD94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@binary132 great, I look forward to the arrival of the aw2725df and that it does not disappoint me

    • @FJAD94
      @FJAD94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@binary132 What is the monitor model you bought? I want to buy the msi 271qrx or the aw2725df but I like the dell better

    • @binary132
      @binary132 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FJAD94 I got the AW3225QF

  • @wellwellwell7563
    @wellwellwell7563 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:25 why keyboard is blue on WOLED monitor???

  • @AsreiMurasame
    @AsreiMurasame 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do want to point out that the AW3432DW is over a year old and faster refresh QD-OLED's are already on the way. I personally think they will be the best in the end.
    Before I end this comment I want to add I've been the proud owner of a AW3432DW for a year now. I also want to point out as amazing of a 4k monitor the X27 was I was willing to give up 4k for 2k with such a massive increase to contrast and colors (and it was worth it.) Plus you can run all these amazing colors without DSC while getting 175 Hz refresh rate on the QD OLED in comparison to the older 4k monitors.
    Thankfully though 4k won't require DSC for high refresh rates as of the next gen of graphics cards will finally implement DisplayPort 2. Which has far more bandwidth than even HDMI 2.1

    • @carloscorona3143
      @carloscorona3143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The newest 4k 240hz oleds don't have DP 2.1

    • @AsreiMurasame
      @AsreiMurasame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carloscorona3143It was HDMI 2.1 as my comment stated. Displayport 2 hasn’t made it to GPUs even yet and HDMI 2.1 has to because 4k 240 Hz isn’t possible on Displayport 1.4a

    • @carloscorona3143
      @carloscorona3143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AsreiMurasame
      AMD 7000 series include DP 2.1 though not the full bandwidth

  • @CellDE
    @CellDE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well the decision is easy need 21:9 (34-35") ^^

  • @selectthedead
    @selectthedead ปีที่แล้ว

    Sehr gutes Video!
    Ich werde trotzdem noch eine Generation warten bis ich mir ein neuen Bildschirm kaufe

  • @Gamefreak2998
    @Gamefreak2998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I missing something? I thought the point of oleds was that they DONT burn your retinas?

  • @CT3086
    @CT3086 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May I ask, what is that lamp to the left of the Philipps monitor? 😂

  • @Abyss-mu4vk
    @Abyss-mu4vk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thoughts on the new aw2725df?

    • @techlessYT
      @techlessYT  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Currently testing 👍

  • @fr0stb11te3
    @fr0stb11te3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only reason I will never buy an oled TV or monitor is the risk of burn in. Until the day comes that there is 0% chance of burn in from Huds in games and static things on the screen unfortunately many people will not even entertain the idea of these monitors. They are too expensive to deal with that type of inconvenience.

  • @rlrihards948
    @rlrihards948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope Alienware releases nice QD OLED 2160p (5K2K) 21:9 160hz+ monitor soon.

  • @viperv99
    @viperv99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    QD-OLD is now just as fast in refresh rate in 2024. I pick QD-OLD. 😊

  • @tienbui94
    @tienbui94 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm watching this video with my Samsung G8 OLED

  • @Zalva10
    @Zalva10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They need to make more 28 inch monitors

  • @iamccwwcc
    @iamccwwcc ปีที่แล้ว

    Q3 2024 Samsung 2K 360hz QD-OLED will be my endgame monitor

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FYI: You don't want the colour range to exceed the colour space. Anything over 100% SRGB is wrong. The monitor should have the capability to clamp the output to the chosen colour space. Also QD-OLED and WOLED should be the same in this regard, the former only bests the latter in colour volume tests which check the colour range relative to brightness changes.

    • @ckngmad1357
      @ckngmad1357 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey man
      What is monitor that suitable for editing video or digital painting?

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ckngmad1357 This channel author didn't want me recommending other channels and deleted my response lol. Anyway I would wait for the 4k (glossy) OLED monitors coming out in the next few months.

    • @studiog2682
      @studiog2682 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But why is sRGB still a thing? If you're going to measure the coverage of a wide-gamut monitor, it should be P3 and Adobe RGB. The relic sRGB just needs to die.

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@studiog2682 Because (virtually) all non-HDR content is authored for SRGB and would look horrible and way over saturated if your monitor runs wider than the standard spec.

    • @studiog2682
      @studiog2682 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@djayjp Then use the sRGB setting on your monitor. Monitors can be set to different color spaces including sRGB. It would be stupid to have a crippled OLED that can only do sRGB. When you spec an OLED it's a given that it can show more colors than sRGB. And saying some number over 100% sRGB makes no sense. I want to know how much of P3 it can do.