what about the previous video about the monitor? the title was.... best pc monitor period! it's another shitty product with more advertising than quality.
Definitely a dealbreaker, as even reviewers here in Germany mentioned these issues two weeks ago with the first review models being sent by Samsung. Hard to understand how you can release tech like this nowadays.
@@AniRayn I like Hardware Unboxed, but I feel like most of their display/monitor reviews are for people more interested in esports games as they heavily emphasize response times and latency measurements when elaborating on their results. I understand that those are important metrics to game, but not everyone is looking for the most competitive edge at all times, many do just want great picture quality with still pretty good latency. For that reason, they seem really not interested in reviewing 4k devices as much, since it isnt necessary for competitve gaming. Id say its a channel for a different demographic
that's all the lcd wasteland is good for, not really tim's fault, when more monitors like this show up I'm sure he wont spend half the video on ghosting
@@scofozo Not necessarily, The QD monitor is Ultra wide when many games are not supported for that aspect ratio creating black bars while gaming. Plus is not 4k its ultra wide 1440p , so lower resolution than the 4k Oled. The 175k Hz mode won't also be used all the time as it affects HDR lowering the color depth to 8 bit from 10bit when at 175hz so you would mainly be using 144.
@@madac219 you don't need hdr or 4k, the unmatched lack of ghosting for oleds alone is worth forgoing hdr, 4k, and maybe even higher hz monitors, 21:9 is actually supported in many if not all games now and gives a tactical advantage in them, elden ring, destiny, cod, wow, & lost ark support it just to name a few, I see replies like this often, and I think the only downside of this monitor is that it isn't 240hz+, but even so, this thing has the fastest pixels in the world, eliminating ghosting completely, unlike leds at 240hz+, it might be worth the trade for that reason alone, then add the tactical advantage of a 21:9 and it's almost a sure bet that this thing is gonna be atleast considered at a pro level
Excuse me, it's purple blacks not grey blacks, Joking aside, this is a strange sight to see on an oled, a cut corner like this is enough to keep me away from this display I hope this is just a peculiarity of this particular display model and not an actual limitation of qd oled
Same. The whole reason I buy OLED is because of the perfect black levels. If it has a stupid antiglare layer that turns gray when light disperses on it then I'm not buying it.
@@chriss6356 Actually the antiglare works exceedingly well and is not an issue. I have a Philips hue lamp about 4m behind me and the way it disperses the light is fantastic, you can hardly see any reflection. It doesn't make the monitors blacks look grey or purple unless there is an extreme light shone on it. In which case the reflections of such light would be more problematic than a raised black level and at least with this anti glare you can still use your monitor in that scenario. In normal room lighting the blacks are inky black. Non issue and I'm more than happy with the anti glare coating on this screen.
@@Flam3h On video it's not like that, he only turns on/off the light in the room and you see blacks turning to gray. And I wanted to switch my Oled to this one, not anymore, cannot go back to grays in some conditions.
I just got mine yesterday. I loaded visual studio (C++) and eclipse (Java) on it and had absolutely no problems with the text rendering. I had to put my nose nearly up to the screen and drag the window back and forth between the aw3423dw and an LED to even see the slight difference the fringing caused. I wouldn't even know to look for it/be bothered by it if I wasn't told to. As a professional and hobbyist programmer, I would 100% have no problem doing coding on this monitor. If anything, the true blacks work well with my dark theme habits to minimize eye strain.
Would love it if you could do a follow up with the DWF model! Specifically for colour accuracy, there’s a lot more control for calibration now. Thanks :)
I was eyeing this monitor, but I think I will wait for the 42-inch C2 instead. Mostly because of the console issues. Thank you for your in-depth videos.
@@drelephanttube I think he could mean black crush. Personally I haven't noticed any major problems with my C1 or CX but I'm just a casual gamer/movie watcher.
Really good points. It makes me feel a bit better about waiting to see what else becomes available. I have a very bright room and do a lot of productivity work on my monitor.
still by far the best monitor review channel, i just love your technical and concise reviews. oh and another point: i bought the b9 after your reviews and i had to wait about 2 years for 120hz 4k and it finally came!
I've had this monitor since the 14th of March and in my view while the text fringing was indeed visible, after I adjusted clear type and a couple hours of use, I got used to it and outside of extreme scenarios like very thin white text on a completely black background, I don't notice it let alone feel it is an issue. I think this is something that, like Vincent said, comes down to personal preference and sensitivity. For those that are concerned about this issue, I wouldn't immediately categorize it as a deal breaker.
Have to agree, it is noticeable. As you mentioned you can easily notice it on smaller text on a white background and can cause eye fatigue. However, the gaming side of this monitor is awesome and more than makes up for it.
it's one of those bullshit that comes from people who don't have the product. it's always ultra critical. but when the product is there, they're less critical, funny that
@@blue4059 You do realize that this monitor is not marketed as a productivity monitor at all right. If your buying this for a productivity monitor that is your problem for doing 0 research. I wouldn't buy any kind of OLED at all for productivity. All OLEDs are kinda terrible for that kind of work.
I love how you always say the full model name of the Alienware AW3423DW. I am looking forward to see the comparison of 42 inch C2 and Alienware AW3423DW. (edit: I failed)
The subpixel layout causing blurred text I get, but honestly I use it as a work monitor, and after just a week of using it with just 100% (Recommended) set I seriously don't even think of the bleed around the text. It's perfectly fine for typing and I work in product management so use excel and other text based apps daily. Console I couldn't care about less, if you have 1500$ to spend on a console monitor, there are certainly many cheaper and better options. And the reflective coating is completely blown out of proportions when using it for work in light rooms. If I game, I don't play in full blazing lights anyway.
I recently got mine and I don't see any issue with text. I'm sitting about 20 inches (1 arm length away) and on windows 10. Text looks perfect to me. I asked my wife if she noticed anything odd about the text and she had no idea what I was talking about. I came from a Samsung g9 neo before this and text looked worse on it. So if text is your only fear here I would not worry.
I would love to see text clarity addressed on most reviews and please include macOS too. In my experience mac users are pretty active in high end monitor market.
@@thisApex3D The Sony TV has an even wider color gamut and can hold the brigthness for larger patches due to it's use of a heatsink. Plus it will obviously use TV-typical image processing to further enhance picture quality outside of the game mode. It'll be almost certainly be another step up compared to this monitor when it's only about picture quality. Edit: Typos
I'm guessing that the subpixel arrangement maximises the size of the RED/GREEN sub-pixel while keeping the pixel mostly 'square'. This may be to compensate for the desired brightness contribution of each subpixel to the energy emitted as a function of its area.
The reason the subpixels are laid out differently is because quantum dots re-emit their own light, they do not filter through a substrate like LCD. As such, they cannot be the same size, they must be scaled properly to emit the same amount of energy. Blue light has the highest energy per photon, green 2nd most, and red the least. This means you must emit the proper ratio of RGB light from each subpixel in order to get equal brightness and proper white balance. This can only be done by scaling the subpixels on an OLED monitor because again there is no filter. On an LCD screen, you can just block more light from the blue and green colors to match the brightness of the red output. Thus if you used the same stripe pattern on an OLED, you would get a weird sideways triangle of stripes that would throw off the white balance and severely limit the overall brightness of the monitor. By arranging the pixels in an equidistant triangle pattern and scaling the size of each subpixel, you can get a proper and balanced blend of red, green and blue light that gives you a perfect white balance. Thus the weird pattern and odd scaling of each subpixel.
Details like these, while interesting and informative, are not the sort of thing the everyday punter like myself would really pick up on or be bothered about. I have this monitor and to me it's simply amazing
This is the Best PC gaming monitor as of right now. Is it a do all be all monitor? NO Will it blow your socks off while playing Destiny 2 in HDR? YES. Love your channel! you give us the best analysis on TH-cam.
Thanks so much for this review. I have one coming, and am using a Dell U2711 from 2010. The truth is, I can't seem to find my holy grail of a PC monitor. I was waiting years for the PG32UQX and that has compromises; now we are seeing OLED come to the PC desktop space, and it is compromised. At the end of the day, you say this is the best PC gaming monitor on the market - I am hoping this is a huge leap over my trusty U2711, which was once praised for its colour accuracy, and so on. I am tired of waiting, and hope that this Alienware isn't a disappointment.
One point to mention regarding text is that it does really look crap where Cleartype cannot help. Cleartype does clear it up and makes it a lot better in Windows. However...it doesn't help on web browsers. It still looks awful from a normal viewing distance, kind of like as I can only describe as kind of shitty 80's 3D look to it (only on normal size text, larger text not an issue). Sometimes it just makes certain things just not seem as clear as you would expect them to. It's kind of hard to describe, but it's kind of like some things aren't in complete focus. I'm quite sensitive to motion sickness and flickering etc. It did strike me immediately how much worse it looked than my previous monitor. However the positives of the colours and contrast along with the motion handling make up for the short comings. Hopefully moving forward and with a higher pixel density it will improve when new models arrive in the future.
For my Competitive FPS gamers make sure to compare your old monitor's full screen sustained brightness and compare it to the qd-oled. I wrongly assumed the decrease in brightness would be linear and that scenarios in which full-screen brightness mattered would be minimal. I was WRONG. I play Warzone, CSGO, and R6 and personally find it more difficult to see things with the lower overall brightness, and with in-person side-by-side comparison it is very noticeable. My old monitor is the lg 34gp83a-b and has a 100% window brightness of 400 nits, while the Alienware is 250-60 nits. Don't get me wrong this is the best panel I have ever seen period, other monitors and TV's included. for any other game and/or casual play then get it, color fringing and fan noise (for me) aren't noticeable. I'm going to return my monitor and stick with the LG to wait however long it takes for qd-oled to match the LG's full screen brightness.
Hi there, can I ask how did you find the text clarity when reading browsers or spreadsheets when using the lg 34gp83a-b? I am looking at QD OLED and Nano IPS, but the blurry txt on QD OLED is a downer for me. Thanks!
@@freelancer1499 Hey sorry for the late reply I don't check these often. but the LG 34gp83a-b has been my main for over a year now. I have 19/20 to 20/20 vision dependent on the day because of astigmatism in my right eye (which makes the text slightly blurry for me, but still readable when tired) and sit approximately 2ft away from the monitor and I use it for my college work often (word and excel). I find the text clarity to be at the very least average or (in my opinion) above average depending on your previous monitors. It is definitely better than the Alienware QD-OLED. The only way to make it better for this monitor technology would be to increase the resolution. Long story short, I think you will be satisfied. I know that's probably a little TMI, but I wanted to make sure I gave a "clear picture" 😉
Great info as always. I actually just ordered the updated version of this monitor. The AW3423DWF. I primarily use my home PC for gaming and watching movies and I think for that purpose, it should be excellent. It's supposed to arrive in a couple of days so I'll check back in with my opinions about it, just in case anyone who is interested in the monitor comes across my comment. I was aware of the text fringing issue that some people had spoken about before placing my order but I don't expect that to be a problem for me. Plus, since the newer DWF model allows for users to update the monitor's firmware, I think there's a chance that Dell may potentially be able to solve that issue and perhaps even a few more small issues with a software update.
Bro u can't fix the text/pixel color fringing by a software update. It's happening because of the hardware, the pixels are pyramidal instead of being qubic as usual. That's why I'm waiting for the second revision of Samsungs Panels.
@@MTheConqueror yea you’re right, there are software based options though. There’s a program called Mactype which replaces Microsoft’s default text rendering with a system that is completely user customizable. Including being able to cater to lots of different pixel layouts, very specific color shifting, etc. A lot of people seem to like it but honestly, I’ve had this monitor for several days now and I don’t have any issue with how it displays text. I’ve not thought about text clarity or fringing once since I actually started using the monitor. I think you’d have to be VERY particular about these things in order to be bothered by it. I never notice it at all. Text looks very clean and clear to me but if someone is really that particular about how crisp the text looks on their monitor, resolution is way more important than pixel layout. I’d tell them to just get a 4K monitor
The deal breaker being the text fringing? How’s the viewing angles been on your monitor? The backlight bleed? The colour gamut? Contrast? Pixel response? Funny thing is all those details were irrelevant with my 8 year old LCD, but now I’ve seen what this monitor and others are capable of, suddenly I’m hyper-fixating p those details like any one of those could be a dealbreaker. The Neo G9 looks incredible. Only, it’s 400 more than this one, has a reputation for abysmal quality control and a size and technical demand that just isn’t capable of being realised in the current year, let alone at an affordable price. I’m not trying to convince you of my purchase or anything, but just point out that “dealbreakers” are meaningless if you hold every other monitor to the same standard.
@@exhermit yes, the text fringing. i stare at text for hours on end. it's literally the #1 thing i need my monitor for. this instantly disqualifies it for any text heavy use case, which is most use cases if you're not a pure gamer. it doesn't matter how amazing it is while gaming if i can't do my job.
@@elon6131 so do I and I can assure you it is a non-issue. Like anything else you’ve acclimated to, you realise it contributes to a better experience. The first two to three days are very distracting, but after that Text has been so much more clear, vibrant and easier to read. This is from someone that spends all day researching, reading and communicating for work on this monitor.
Glad to hear that this monitor works for you. This is a great monitor for what it was mainly designed for. However, this isn't for me. Today I was able to see one in person. A owner my little local computer store received his, he was using (or more like playing lol) it behind the counter. His store didn't have any in stock. But he let me test around for a few minutes. Color was amazing as expected from qd-oled. Text fringing wasn't that bad but personally wasn't happy with it. HDR was good but wasn't impressive due to its limited brightness, perhaps this is probably because I'm spoiled by HDR performance on Sony A90J. I can see this is one of the best gaming monitors today. For serious work tasks, this monitor wouldn’t cut it, at least for me. And after testing it, I'm convinced that I can't downgrade from 4K resolution. After i got home, instead of this monitor, I've decided and just place an order for Asus PA32UCG. It's a lot more expensive monitors, but it's got everything I'm looking for. Won't be the best for gaming, still more than good enough.
@@elon6131 Then you shouldn't be looking at any kind of OLED because all OLEDS are shit at that kind of thing. They are just not designed for productivity work, they are designed for movie watching and gaming. If you want something good for work you want something like a proart monitor. Those monitors are great for that kind of work but they are not as good for gaming or HDR/movie content although they will still be great for that.
This guy is the 100% real deal honest opinion compared to the other overhyped and under the table paid "reviewers". I only trust this channel for HD TV reviews.
If this first iteration of QD-OLED gets Best in Class, then I'm pumped for other models to come out. I wonder if LG is sticking with WD for now, or will they catch up and release a QD monitor?
Hi, Which one between the Alienware QD OLED and LG C2 would you suggest to buy as a productivity monitor? I prefer flat monitors and never used curved before but What prevents me from leaning towards buying the LG C2 as monitor are the higher risk of burn in with no warranty protection and the higher input lag. Could you help me and give me your opinion, please? 🙏
I was torn between the LG C2 42 inch and this monitor for gaming but seeing them side by side and with this information I can honestly choose the C2 with ease. Great video 👍🏼
It’s a great monitor no doubt about it but if you have the ps5 or Xbox series x or any other console for that matter you can’t get the full experience of the LG C2 specially at 42”
I just got my monitor today, and I can notice the subpixel layout (and see the green, blue, and red) bleed through at the edge of black text on stark white layout, but besides that the subpixel layout is a non issue. The issue with text is also greatly mitigated when using dark mode.
Thank you for your advice. In my opinion however, these cases seem very specific to your situation. This is a pc gaming monitor. This is not meant for console gaming, and blu-rays are a thing of the past. Also, I recommend having more control over your lighting if that’s an issue. You should not invest money in a top tier monitor if you haven’t invested in better lighting yet. Smart bulbs are affordable, but simply a different layout might solve that problem. For example, make sure there are zero light sources in front of the monitor going all the way back to a wall. If you are looking for a productivity monitor, then you should not have purchased this one in the first place. I appreciate your thoughts, but it seems like you are really fishing for cons.
Amazing technical breakdown of current issues! Other reviewers out there are too busy gushing about it with only vague information already printed on on the side of the box.
It's really not. The video is exaggerating this massively. I'm using it in a room with a ceiling light and 6 Philips Hue lights scattered around. The anti glare coating works amazingly well and diffuses the light from a distant Hue Go lamp to the point I can hardly see it's reflection. The blacks with the lights on are as inky black as when they are off. Literally non issue and I would say the coating is a strength not a negative. You really cannot judge it by what you see in the video. I don't have direct sunlight able to hit the screen, but if it did and it did elevate the blacks in that scenario, at least it would diffuse the light and still be usable rather than a horrendous reflection. If the coating is holding people back, don't let it it's not an issue whatsoever. There are other deal breakers, but this coating isn't one of them.
@@Flam3h I pre ordered the monitor for a well lit room, with windows behind and to the side of me. I don't see another gsync ultimate monitor that's comparable at this price point, so very thankful for the anti glare
I always use scaling that's based on 720p @ 100% (i.e., 1080p @ 150%, 1440p @ 200%, 2160p @ 300%, etc.) because that's when the Windows UI looks best, and I can use about the same font size everywhere, without UI text getting unbearably tiny and web page text getting enormously huge. It also makes the fonts better readable. 150% already brings about a significant alleviation. A downside is having to arrange the task bar on the side rather than at the bottom since many programs are not designed to fit on a 720p screen (or anything scaled up from that). Users of 16:10 screens obviously do not have that issue, but most people use wider screens, like 16:9 or 21:9. Luckily, there is a program for Windows 11 called ExplorerPatcher that will bring back the Win 10 task bar.
I gave you the thumbs up about 5 seconds after the longer and thicker joke, as soon as I was finished chuckling. It's so silly but because of how professional your videos are makes it so much funnier.
I just got this monitor after using my old LG 27 inch 4k monitor for 5 years, and I have to say the text is a bit annyoing but I think it's something you can get use to / software will 100% fix this problem. Everything else is AMAZING!!!
Just a couple of points: Your recommendation re cleartype is kind of funny considering it is exactly the kind of subpixel hinting tech that requires knowledge of subpixel layout to work effectively. Fringing really shouldn't be an issue at all with cleartype off, at least no more than than on any other display. Maybe don't sit so close? :D Re watching blurays, I found this section extremely funny. This is a PC monitor... use a software bluray player! 😂 If watching blurays is something you do, then you really have no excuse for not having a bluray drive in your PC. It's hilarious that your first instinct was to plug a home theater player into the thing!
The fan noise is very much audible on mine. If you have it set on eco mode (default) the exhaust fan on the top of the monitor (separate from the Gsync fan, which is inaudible) will come on after 5-10min. Depending on your tolerance and quietness of your PC this could be a deal breaker. I can only describe the noise as a kind of faint coil whine sound (but not coil whine...) mixed with air movement. Basically the fan profile on eco is too aggressive and the essentially laptop fan inside isn't the best and can only assume the bearings aren't exactly great. The annoying thing is, if you turn off eco mode, the fan just spins constantly instead at a much lower speed and you can no longer hear it. However, the drawback is that the fan will keep spinning even when the monitor is sleeping and will draw around 10w (according to someone who measured it with eco mode off). Basically if they updated the firmware with a better eco mode fan profile, it would be a non issue.
The gray blacks under light are similar to the plasma issue, only a little bit inverted, since with plasma you needed a black coating to prevent phosphorus from getting greenishly bright in the light, while here you need to remove the coating?...or possibly the Quatnum dot layer gets excited by the light in the room and puts out its own light (yes, Quantum dots are self-emmissive when excited by light) and perhaps there is actually no "black trinitron" 🙂coating on the monitor to prevent this...Vince, can you please investigate further?
Thank you for talking about the coating and verify it's exactly what I saw. I though it look gray compare to the black border. This is a deal breaker for me. Black have to look black at all time.
I wish I watched this before buying. I just "upgraded" from the AW3418DW to AW3423DWF and the second thing I noticed was that the color fringing is AWFUL. If you just have a grey/white rectangle on a black background you can clearly see a magenta line at edge This also appears on text, especially white on black.
Same. The other channels simply said it was the gold standard. Period. I disagree. I have the AWDW version. Now I'm looking to salvage whatever value I can get.
Hello! Is there going to be a calibration video for this monitor? Mine just arrived and I would love to get the most out of this display! Thank you!! :)
That anti-reflective coating is seriously such a weird choice. It's just so clearly hurting the monitor's performance, and using it in a dim room could really strain your eyes. I wouldn't be buying this monitor due to its cost, but this is just a no-buy for me entirely, it seems like it would reduce the contrast perception too much.
TBH is not really that weird of a choice, since 99.9% of current PC monitors use anti-reflective/matte coating, especially gaming ones. EVE has released their Spectrum 4K 144hz with a Glossy Panel and it seems to be gathering a good amount of attention, but their reputation with several delays and issues with not even receiving their monitors until months after the due date make them a hard pass to a lot of people. Maybe if the Glossy EVE Spectrum turns out to be a huge success, other brands might start bringing this option for their monitors.
Auch, that anti-glare filter would kill some of the OLED charm for me in this case... Can't monitor makes finally just accept a gloss or semi-gloss option? There's *plenty* of picture enthusiasts who would be into that. Myself included.
The problem is this is a desktop monitor. You have to realise there’s a compromise between work-useable pure gloss and semi-anti-glare. I’ve been using this and seriously, in my most honest opinion, you only notice the semi anti-glare when it’s off. When it’s on, it’s invisible. I’ve had a MacBook Pro for work with pure gloss. Phenomenal displays that were borderline unusable during the day due to glare. This is not a television to only watching shows in dark rooms. It’s a work station.
@@KarimTemple Wrong. Have you actually used this monitor? Are you going to tell me that all the deep blacks I’ve been experiencing have in fact been greys? Lmfao
I just tried AW3423DW side by side with a AW3821DW in a Dell showroom. I found the QD-OLED panel showing more coarse texts than the IPS panel. Thanks for explaining the reason!
@@tyler4267 'Grainy' might be a better descripiton than 'coarse' or 'blurry' (as in the video) for its text rendering. Like he explained in 0:50, there's no OS-specific sub-pixel rendering technique to accomodate the new layout.
Forgive me if I'm wrong please Vincent, but can't the monitor be used on console with 4K resolution with an HDMI to DP adapter cable ? I'm running that in reverse currently to a TV from a card without HDMI..🤔
Most cellphone and portables use RGBoled with the catch being longevity.. Your phone screen only needs to last as much as the battery. Not the case for a monitor.
Pretty hard. LG made everyone's TV panels for years and years because they [bought] a patent on the only way to make OLED easy and cheap (i.e. WRGB). Now with QD-OLED, you can do a decent RGB setup but the pixels are quantum dots which means it would be a lot more expensive to do a traditional stripe.
I think it's worth mentioning that this new QD-OLED pixel structure isn't very different from what we saw in the CRT era. Most PC CRTs used a shadow mask while most CRT TVs used a slot mask and those were just as different as this QD-OLED is from more traditional PC LCDs. The whole reason that Microsoft introduced ClearType in the first place was that PC monitors were transitioning from CRTs to LCDs at the time. There's no 'correct' pixel structure for a monitor to have. We're just going back in time in a sense here.
The coating on the monitor is only a problem if you have a light shining into it. If your light source is beside or behind the monitor then the monitor appears deep black. So that is the solution, if possible to that issue.
Thanks for the information. I am getting a new system with a 4090 GPU and was seeking to upgrade my Dell 27" U2715H - 1440 resolution monitors and thought the Alienware AW3423DWF or AW3423DW would be good upgrades, but this doesn't look to be the case. My guess is I should go with a 4K monitor but I have no idea where to start.
Great video. I am definitely on the fence for this monitor as there are more mini-led models coming out this year with 500-1000 zones. Im a big OLED fan since my B9 purchase but I don't think I would be satisfied with this model.
I think it's a great first step and the price-performance ratio is... surprisingly good for something that uses new tech and has this featureset. But... it's not perfect and personally I'd probably wait at least one iteration or see what competitors bring as well. Of course I would love to jump on the QD-OLED train, but usally the second gen stuff is a lot better for a similar price.
I'll be gladly moving to this QD-OLED monitor. Even on my high-end 512 zone Asus PG35VQ blooming is very noticeable in most HDR content. Even though it's dimmer and has less color volume, my LG C9 OLED's picture quality is just uncomparably better.
Is that supposed to be impressive?? 500-1,000 zones is an embarrassing JOKE vs MILLIONS of pixels. The Hisense U9DG Dual Cell LCD TV has over 2 MILLION local dimming zones which is the best progress in contrast ratio for LCD TV's.
I guess the "grey blacks" are similar to the old CRT days? With the quantum dots behaving somewhat similar to those old phosphor materials when room light hits the screen?
can you let us know what is the best monitors as of this date. For Photographers/Video as well as using it for games/TV shows. in the 30-40in range? OLED or better? Thanks in Advance!!!
"Not the first time something's improved by making it bigger and thicker." - HDTVTest
HDTVTest presenter regularly makes remarks like these... I can imagine the inner child giggling whenever he says those comments. :) ...
@@arditm2178 That was take 17
HDTVTest, come for the technical expertise, stay for the dry but hilarious jokes.
he really made that joke, and didn't crack as much as a grin afterwards, fucking gangster
he ain't wrong, i can think of 5 examples right away
This is the type of information only experts like you can provide. Thank you.
Unlike quantum tv🤣🤣🤣
what about the previous video about the monitor? the title was.... best pc monitor period! it's another shitty product with more advertising than quality.
@@andreistein2429 pc >>>gaming
@Andrei Stein: Name us another monitor with better picture quality for PC gaming. We'll wait.
Definitely a dealbreaker, as even reviewers here in Germany mentioned these issues two weeks ago with the first review models being sent by Samsung. Hard to understand how you can release tech like this nowadays.
The only reviewer worth watching so far. The other tech tubers have mostly been useless.
I'd say Hardware Unboxed is worth as well, if you're interested specifically in monitors and also gaming characteristics.
I came here to say Hardware unboxed also but those 2 are head and shoulders above the rest.
@@AniRayn I like Hardware Unboxed, but I feel like most of their display/monitor reviews are for people more interested in esports games as they heavily emphasize response times and latency measurements when elaborating on their results. I understand that those are important metrics to game, but not everyone is looking for the most competitive edge at all times, many do just want great picture quality with still pretty good latency.
For that reason, they seem really not interested in reviewing 4k devices as much, since it isnt necessary for competitve gaming. Id say its a channel for a different demographic
that's all the lcd wasteland is good for, not really tim's fault, when more monitors like this show up I'm sure he wont spend half the video on ghosting
Techtesters does good work as well.
Upcoming 42" C2 vs Alienware QD-OLED comparison video will be one of highlights of 2022 in tv/monitor space, cant wait ...
I feel like 42" is still to big
It's an easy choice for all PC gamers, 175hz and more nits is the obvious choice over 120hz
@@scofozo Not necessarily, The QD monitor is Ultra wide when many games are not supported for that aspect ratio creating black bars while gaming. Plus is not 4k its ultra wide 1440p , so lower resolution than the 4k Oled. The 175k Hz mode won't also be used all the time as it affects HDR lowering the color depth to 8 bit from 10bit when at 175hz so you would mainly be using 144.
@@madac219 you don't need hdr or 4k, the unmatched lack of ghosting for oleds alone is worth forgoing hdr, 4k, and maybe even higher hz monitors, 21:9 is actually supported in many if not all games now and gives a tactical advantage in them, elden ring, destiny, cod, wow, & lost ark support it just to name a few, I see replies like this often, and I think the only downside of this monitor is that it isn't 240hz+, but even so, this thing has the fastest pixels in the world, eliminating ghosting completely, unlike leds at 240hz+, it might be worth the trade for that reason alone, then add the tactical advantage of a 21:9 and it's almost a sure bet that this thing is gonna be atleast considered at a pro level
C2 Vs alienware QD-oled Vs neo C8
The choice of anti-reflective measures really baffles me here. Gray blacks are literally contradicting the main benefit of oled.
Excuse me, it's purple blacks not grey blacks,
Joking aside, this is a strange sight to see on an oled, a cut corner like this is enough to keep me away from this display
I hope this is just a peculiarity of this particular display model and not an actual limitation of qd oled
Same. The whole reason I buy OLED is because of the perfect black levels. If it has a stupid antiglare layer that turns gray when light disperses on it then I'm not buying it.
@@chriss6356 Actually the antiglare works exceedingly well and is not an issue.
I have a Philips hue lamp about 4m behind me and the way it disperses the light is fantastic, you can hardly see any reflection. It doesn't make the monitors blacks look grey or purple unless there is an extreme light shone on it.
In which case the reflections of such light would be more problematic than a raised black level and at least with this anti glare you can still use your monitor in that scenario.
In normal room lighting the blacks are inky black. Non issue and I'm more than happy with the anti glare coating on this screen.
Oleds have black crushing, so oleds aren't perfect anyway. nothing is.
@@Flam3h On video it's not like that, he only turns on/off the light in the room and you see blacks turning to gray. And I wanted to switch my Oled to this one, not anymore, cannot go back to grays in some conditions.
That direct comparison video will likely determine my next monitor. Looking forward to it!
For me 42" C2 all the way, 4k is the way to go
@@abdulhfhd Basically as long as you mount it to the wall your in good shape.
Me too ! can also use a 2nd monitor for work / non gaming.
I will wait for ASUS - MSI - Gigabyte and more, for their models that will come around second half this year.
I just got mine yesterday. I loaded visual studio (C++) and eclipse (Java) on it and had absolutely no problems with the text rendering. I had to put my nose nearly up to the screen and drag the window back and forth between the aw3423dw and an LED to even see the slight difference the fringing caused. I wouldn't even know to look for it/be bothered by it if I wasn't told to.
As a professional and hobbyist programmer, I would 100% have no problem doing coding on this monitor. If anything, the true blacks work well with my dark theme habits to minimize eye strain.
Thanks! Helpful info!
thanks ! i think i fall into the same user type as yourself
People will always complain no matter what. I am buying this monitor tomorrow.
@@anthonbakkalian2352 is it good?
Would love it if you could do a follow up with the DWF model! Specifically for colour accuracy, there’s a lot more control for calibration now. Thanks :)
I was eyeing this monitor, but I think I will wait for the 42-inch C2 instead. Mostly because of the console issues. Thank you for your in-depth videos.
The anti-glare coating or whatever it is that causes the blacks to be gray is brutal. Hard pass on this monitor.
did LG C2 fixed the color bleed issue in older LG OLED?
@@moreuse What color bleed issue?
@@drelephanttube I think he could mean black crush. Personally I haven't noticed any major problems with my C1 or CX but I'm just a casual gamer/movie watcher.
C2 won't have the new panels on the first batches
Really good points. It makes me feel a bit better about waiting to see what else becomes available. I have a very bright room and do a lot of productivity work on my monitor.
still by far the best monitor review channel, i just love your technical and concise reviews. oh and another point: i bought the b9 after your reviews and i had to wait about 2 years for 120hz 4k and it finally came!
Next time spend a few extra hundred for a C series model.
B series has worse value in terms of price to performance.
I just love the sexual innuendo/double entendre used with the subtle bell. Cracks me up every time!! Keep up the good work!
watching this as my 38 is on it's way and have no regrets. Thank you for this great find
I've had this monitor since the 14th of March and in my view while the text fringing was indeed visible, after I adjusted clear type and a couple hours of use, I got used to it and outside of extreme scenarios like very thin white text on a completely black background, I don't notice it let alone feel it is an issue. I think this is something that, like Vincent said, comes down to personal preference and sensitivity.
For those that are concerned about this issue, I wouldn't immediately categorize it as a deal breaker.
I ordered on March 7th at 9am, and 3 days later got the delayed email with expected delivery on May 4th :(
Have to agree, it is noticeable. As you mentioned you can easily notice it on smaller text on a white background and can cause eye fatigue.
However, the gaming side of this monitor is awesome and more than makes up for it.
it's one of those bullshit that comes from people who don't have the product. it's always ultra critical. but when the product is there, they're less critical, funny that
The issue here is price. A $1300 USD monitor should not have such a glaring issue that affect the majority of people's productivity workflow.
@@blue4059 You do realize that this monitor is not marketed as a productivity monitor at all right. If your buying this for a productivity monitor that is your problem for doing 0 research. I wouldn't buy any kind of OLED at all for productivity. All OLEDs are kinda terrible for that kind of work.
I love how you always say the full model name of the Alienware AW3423DW. I am looking forward to see the comparison of 42 inch C2 and Alienware AW3423DW. (edit: I failed)
Well he always used to say "It's a mouthful"
The subpixel layout causing blurred text I get, but honestly I use it as a work monitor, and after just a week of using it with just 100% (Recommended) set I seriously don't even think of the bleed around the text. It's perfectly fine for typing and I work in product management so use excel and other text based apps daily.
Console I couldn't care about less, if you have 1500$ to spend on a console monitor, there are certainly many cheaper and better options.
And the reflective coating is completely blown out of proportions when using it for work in light rooms. If I game, I don't play in full blazing lights anyway.
I recently got mine and I don't see any issue with text. I'm sitting about 20 inches (1 arm length away) and on windows 10. Text looks perfect to me. I asked my wife if she noticed anything odd about the text and she had no idea what I was talking about.
I came from a Samsung g9 neo before this and text looked worse on it. So if text is your only fear here I would not worry.
The only thing I see concerning is the screen coating. Ordered one anyway because the pros of this monitor easily outweigh the cons
its so random seeing u here
4:06 I've seen comparison of standard OLED and QD-OLED....they ALL do this. It's most likely not going to be noticeable to many people.
I would love to see text clarity addressed on most reviews and please include macOS too. In my experience mac users are pretty active in high end monitor market.
I just bougght mine for my multimedia needs. Movies, Games, You Tube. It is the best monitor I have owned in 20 years.
Thank you Vincent. That Was exactly the Test which i waiting for!!
Thanks for the best and most informative reviews on the internet!
But end the torture, release the C2 comparison video already. :D
This ^
I really look forward to measuring the Sony QD-OLED to see how they handle the new tech.
I assume it will be the same since it is all samsung display
@@thisApex3D Yeah, but with Sony greyscale and CMS controls. I want to see where Sony sets the white point to combat metamerism.
@@thisApex3D The Sony TV has an even wider color gamut and can hold the brigthness for larger patches due to it's use of a heatsink. Plus it will obviously use TV-typical image processing to further enhance picture quality outside of the game mode. It'll be almost certainly be another step up compared to this monitor when it's only about picture quality.
Edit: Typos
I'm guessing that the subpixel arrangement maximises the size of the RED/GREEN sub-pixel while keeping the pixel mostly 'square'. This may be to compensate for the desired brightness contribution of each subpixel to the energy emitted as a function of its area.
The reason the subpixels are laid out differently is because quantum dots re-emit their own light, they do not filter through a substrate like LCD. As such, they cannot be the same size, they must be scaled properly to emit the same amount of energy. Blue light has the highest energy per photon, green 2nd most, and red the least. This means you must emit the proper ratio of RGB light from each subpixel in order to get equal brightness and proper white balance. This can only be done by scaling the subpixels on an OLED monitor because again there is no filter. On an LCD screen, you can just block more light from the blue and green colors to match the brightness of the red output. Thus if you used the same stripe pattern on an OLED, you would get a weird sideways triangle of stripes that would throw off the white balance and severely limit the overall brightness of the monitor. By arranging the pixels in an equidistant triangle pattern and scaling the size of each subpixel, you can get a proper and balanced blend of red, green and blue light that gives you a perfect white balance.
Thus the weird pattern and odd scaling of each subpixel.
Thank you for telling me about this. I am a stickler for text and clarity
Easily THE man for Monitor and TV reviews. One of the main reasons I went for my LG CX TV is because of the HDTV test review
Details like these, while interesting and informative, are not the sort of thing the everyday punter like myself would really pick up on or be bothered about. I have this monitor and to me it's simply amazing
This is the Best PC gaming monitor as of right now. Is it a do all be all monitor? NO
Will it blow your socks off while playing Destiny 2 in HDR? YES.
Love your channel! you give us the best analysis on TH-cam.
Thanks so much for this review. I have one coming, and am using a Dell U2711 from 2010. The truth is, I can't seem to find my holy grail of a PC monitor. I was waiting years for the PG32UQX and that has compromises; now we are seeing OLED come to the PC desktop space, and it is compromised. At the end of the day, you say this is the best PC gaming monitor on the market - I am hoping this is a huge leap over my trusty U2711, which was once praised for its colour accuracy, and so on.
I am tired of waiting, and hope that this Alienware isn't a disappointment.
Has your monitor arrived? What are you opinions so far?
@@RileyReidMeABook Not yet - expected in June. But I'll definitely create content around it on my channel when it comes!
@@TheAristotelianYT I have subscribed and look forward to the content you make based around it.
@@RileyReidMeABook Thanks! I'll be putting impressions up after I have taken it for a spin. Dell still estimates 1st of June - hope it comes earlier.
@@TheAristotelianYT you got yourself another sub here, mine is arriving in July😋😋
One point to mention regarding text is that it does really look crap where Cleartype cannot help. Cleartype does clear it up and makes it a lot better in Windows. However...it doesn't help on web browsers. It still looks awful from a normal viewing distance, kind of like as I can only describe as kind of shitty 80's 3D look to it (only on normal size text, larger text not an issue).
Sometimes it just makes certain things just not seem as clear as you would expect them to. It's kind of hard to describe, but it's kind of like some things aren't in complete focus.
I'm quite sensitive to motion sickness and flickering etc. It did strike me immediately how much worse it looked than my previous monitor.
However the positives of the colours and contrast along with the motion handling make up for the short comings.
Hopefully moving forward and with a higher pixel density it will improve when new models arrive in the future.
1700 canadian id expect zero issues, stuff like this drives me away from the monitor lottery and drawn into the oled high refresh rate tvs..
I check for reviews on this monitor every now and then, but only one channel makes me instantly click over all others
thanks for the hard work
Man if they release a 4k, non-wide version of this, it would be so awesome
Just get a TV. Once you go ultra wide there is no going back. I'm never buying anything other than ultra wide
@@demonwares that’s the issue. All the issues these people have are with the fact it isn’t a television.
We just aren’t there.
For my Competitive FPS gamers make sure to compare your old monitor's full screen sustained brightness and compare it to the qd-oled. I wrongly assumed the decrease in brightness would be linear and that scenarios in which full-screen brightness mattered would be minimal. I was WRONG. I play Warzone, CSGO, and R6 and personally find it more difficult to see things with the lower overall brightness, and with in-person side-by-side comparison it is very noticeable. My old monitor is the lg 34gp83a-b and has a 100% window brightness of 400 nits, while the Alienware is 250-60 nits. Don't get me wrong this is the best panel I have ever seen period, other monitors and TV's included. for any other game and/or casual play then get it, color fringing and fan noise (for me) aren't noticeable. I'm going to return my monitor and stick with the LG to wait however long it takes for qd-oled to match the LG's full screen brightness.
Hi there, can I ask how did you find the text clarity when reading browsers or spreadsheets when using the lg 34gp83a-b? I am looking at QD OLED and Nano IPS, but the blurry txt on QD OLED is a downer for me. Thanks!
@@freelancer1499 Hey sorry for the late reply I don't check these often. but the LG 34gp83a-b has been my main for over a year now. I have 19/20 to 20/20 vision dependent on the day because of astigmatism in my right eye (which makes the text slightly blurry for me, but still readable when tired) and sit approximately 2ft away from the monitor and I use it for my college work often (word and excel). I find the text clarity to be at the very least average or (in my opinion) above average depending on your previous monitors. It is definitely better than the Alienware QD-OLED. The only way to make it better for this monitor technology would be to increase the resolution. Long story short, I think you will be satisfied. I know that's probably a little TMI, but I wanted to make sure I gave a "clear picture" 😉
also, I tend to keep most things at 100% scaling.
@@SuperRed876 All good. Thanks dude!
Great info as always. I actually just ordered the updated version of this monitor. The AW3423DWF. I primarily use my home PC for gaming and watching movies and I think for that purpose, it should be excellent. It's supposed to arrive in a couple of days so I'll check back in with my opinions about it, just in case anyone who is interested in the monitor comes across my comment. I was aware of the text fringing issue that some people had spoken about before placing my order but I don't expect that to be a problem for me. Plus, since the newer DWF model allows for users to update the monitor's firmware, I think there's a chance that Dell may potentially be able to solve that issue and perhaps even a few more small issues with a software update.
Bro u can't fix the text/pixel color fringing by a software update.
It's happening because of the hardware, the pixels are pyramidal instead of being qubic as usual.
That's why I'm waiting for the second revision of Samsungs Panels.
@@MTheConqueror yea you’re right, there are software based options though. There’s a program called Mactype which replaces Microsoft’s default text rendering with a system that is completely user customizable. Including being able to cater to lots of different pixel layouts, very specific color shifting, etc. A lot of people seem to like it but honestly, I’ve had this monitor for several days now and I don’t have any issue with how it displays text. I’ve not thought about text clarity or fringing once since I actually started using the monitor. I think you’d have to be VERY particular about these things in order to be bothered by it. I never notice it at all. Text looks very clean and clear to me but if someone is really that particular about how crisp the text looks on their monitor, resolution is way more important than pixel layout. I’d tell them to just get a 4K monitor
Thank you! I just canceled my order!! What's another better option for mainly gaming and music production monitor? Thanks in advance!
thanks for canceling so i can get mine sooner
Thanks for this video, non of the other reviews pointed out the severe problems with this monitor.
I'm a coder that uses a dark colour scheme so colour fringing really wouldn't effect text that much imo... I hope.
Thanks for your detail unbiased analysis. I was really hoping this monitor would be the one, but turns out to be deal breaker for me.
The deal breaker being the text fringing? How’s the viewing angles been on your monitor? The backlight bleed? The colour gamut? Contrast? Pixel response?
Funny thing is all those details were irrelevant with my 8 year old LCD, but now I’ve seen what this monitor and others are capable of, suddenly I’m hyper-fixating p those details like any one of those could be a dealbreaker.
The Neo G9 looks incredible. Only, it’s 400 more than this one, has a reputation for abysmal quality control and a size and technical demand that just isn’t capable of being realised in the current year, let alone at an affordable price.
I’m not trying to convince you of my purchase or anything, but just point out that “dealbreakers” are meaningless if you hold every other monitor to the same standard.
@@exhermit yes, the text fringing. i stare at text for hours on end. it's literally the #1 thing i need my monitor for. this instantly disqualifies it for any text heavy use case, which is most use cases if you're not a pure gamer. it doesn't matter how amazing it is while gaming if i can't do my job.
@@elon6131 so do I and I can assure you it is a non-issue. Like anything else you’ve acclimated to, you realise it contributes to a better experience.
The first two to three days are very distracting, but after that Text has been so much more clear, vibrant and easier to read.
This is from someone that spends all day researching, reading and communicating for work on this monitor.
Glad to hear that this monitor works for you. This is a great monitor for what it was mainly designed for. However, this isn't for me. Today I was able to see one in person. A owner my little local computer store received his, he was using (or more like playing lol) it behind the counter. His store didn't have any in stock. But he let me test around for a few minutes. Color was amazing as expected from qd-oled. Text fringing wasn't that bad but personally wasn't happy with it. HDR was good but wasn't impressive due to its limited brightness, perhaps this is probably because I'm spoiled by HDR performance on Sony A90J. I can see this is one of the best gaming monitors today. For serious work tasks, this monitor wouldn’t cut it, at least for me. And after testing it, I'm convinced that I can't downgrade from 4K resolution. After i got home, instead of this monitor, I've decided and just place an order for Asus PA32UCG. It's a lot more expensive monitors, but it's got everything I'm looking for. Won't be the best for gaming, still more than good enough.
@@elon6131 Then you shouldn't be looking at any kind of OLED because all OLEDS are shit at that kind of thing. They are just not designed for productivity work, they are designed for movie watching and gaming. If you want something good for work you want something like a proart monitor. Those monitors are great for that kind of work but they are not as good for gaming or HDR/movie content although they will still be great for that.
This guy is the 100% real deal honest opinion compared to the other overhyped and under the table paid "reviewers". I only trust this channel for HD TV reviews.
If this first iteration of QD-OLED gets Best in Class, then I'm pumped for other models to come out. I wonder if LG is sticking with WD for now, or will they catch up and release a QD monitor?
Aaaaand they stook to WOLED...well at least Samsung released the S95B.
Anyone else just refreshing Vincent's page waiting for that LG 42" C2 vs AW3423DW review?
Thank you for posting and your time. Great info. Other TH-camrs don't go into such great detail as you do. Great job.
Hi, Which one between the Alienware QD OLED and LG C2 would you suggest to buy as a productivity monitor? I prefer flat monitors and never used curved before but What prevents me from leaning towards buying the LG C2 as monitor are the higher risk of burn in with no warranty protection and the higher input lag. Could you help me and give me your opinion, please? 🙏
Alienware period for a pc. It’s not close.
Great informative video once again. I'm excited for your take on Sony A95K! Looking forward to it.
I was torn between the LG C2 42 inch and this monitor for gaming but seeing them side by side and with this information I can honestly choose the C2 with ease. Great video 👍🏼
175hz and higher brightness still makes this monitor light-years ahead of the C2
@@scofozo lol
It’s a great monitor no doubt about it but if you have the ps5 or Xbox series x or any other console for that matter you can’t get the full experience of the LG C2 specially at 42”
@@scofozo But it's too small - 42'' 4k for the win , it looks insane lol
If not, then what alternative for AW3423DWF?
Thank you SO very much!!!
Aside from the Mac Studio Display... What might you recommend for the Apple Mac Studio computer?
I just got my monitor today, and I can notice the subpixel layout (and see the green, blue, and red) bleed through at the edge of black text on stark white layout, but besides that the subpixel layout is a non issue. The issue with text is also greatly mitigated when using dark mode.
Not gonna lie, with 200% scaling and ClearType off I found the issue even more glaring than with 100% scaling, as you now have even larger/longe edges
Thank you for taking this up after my link to the German article in your initial review.
Thank you for your advice. In my opinion however, these cases seem very specific to your situation. This is a pc gaming monitor. This is not meant for console gaming, and blu-rays are a thing of the past. Also, I recommend having more control over your lighting if that’s an issue. You should not invest money in a top tier monitor if you haven’t invested in better lighting yet. Smart bulbs are affordable, but simply a different layout might solve that problem. For example, make sure there are zero light sources in front of the monitor going all the way back to a wall. If you are looking for a productivity monitor, then you should not have purchased this one in the first place. I appreciate your thoughts, but it seems like you are really fishing for cons.
The use of a single typing sound sample over and over is subtle humor at its best!
Amazing technical breakdown of current issues! Other reviewers out there are too busy gushing about it with only vague information already printed on on the side of the box.
Right to the point, and with timestamps. Top tier information and presentation.
Damn that anti reflection coating issue is a travesty...
It's really not. The video is exaggerating this massively. I'm using it in a room with a ceiling light and 6 Philips Hue lights scattered around. The anti glare coating works amazingly well and diffuses the light from a distant Hue Go lamp to the point I can hardly see it's reflection.
The blacks with the lights on are as inky black as when they are off. Literally non issue and I would say the coating is a strength not a negative. You really cannot judge it by what you see in the video.
I don't have direct sunlight able to hit the screen, but if it did and it did elevate the blacks in that scenario, at least it would diffuse the light and still be usable rather than a horrendous reflection.
If the coating is holding people back, don't let it it's not an issue whatsoever. There are other deal breakers, but this coating isn't one of them.
@@Flam3h I pre ordered the monitor for a well lit room, with windows behind and to the side of me. I don't see another gsync ultimate monitor that's comparable at this price point, so very thankful for the anti glare
I always use scaling that's based on 720p @ 100% (i.e., 1080p @ 150%, 1440p @ 200%, 2160p @ 300%, etc.) because that's when the Windows UI looks best, and I can use about the same font size everywhere, without UI text getting unbearably tiny and web page text getting enormously huge. It also makes the fonts better readable. 150% already brings about a significant alleviation.
A downside is having to arrange the task bar on the side rather than at the bottom since many programs are not designed to fit on a 720p screen (or anything scaled up from that). Users of 16:10 screens obviously do not have that issue, but most people use wider screens, like 16:9 or 21:9. Luckily, there is a program for Windows 11 called ExplorerPatcher that will bring back the Win 10 task bar.
And that's what i hate about larger UI scaling, cramped space. Even I still felt that on 1080p at 100%.
@@hahaiseewhatyouredoing9086
The fonts look really bad at 100%, very pixelated. 150% is really the minimum where fonts start looking nice.
I gave you the thumbs up about 5 seconds after the longer and thicker joke, as soon as I was finished chuckling. It's so silly but because of how professional your videos are makes it so much funnier.
I just got this monitor after using my old LG 27 inch 4k monitor for 5 years, and I have to say the text is a bit annyoing but I think it's something you can get use to / software will 100% fix this problem. Everything else is AMAZING!!!
When he said AW3423DW, I really felt that
Just a couple of points:
Your recommendation re cleartype is kind of funny considering it is exactly the kind of subpixel hinting tech that requires knowledge of subpixel layout to work effectively. Fringing really shouldn't be an issue at all with cleartype off, at least no more than than on any other display. Maybe don't sit so close? :D
Re watching blurays, I found this section extremely funny. This is a PC monitor... use a software bluray player! 😂 If watching blurays is something you do, then you really have no excuse for not having a bluray drive in your PC. It's hilarious that your first instinct was to plug a home theater player into the thing!
In search of a high quality monitor and came to this, thanks for all this info.
Hitting the sub now. ;)
What was the model of that alienware monitor again? 🤔 Lol super informative as usual. Appreciate the dedication
Great analysis as always, Vincent!
That final "click here", ah damn in progress :) You always have me on the edge of my seat for the next video. Great job again, thanks.
The title looks like a typical click bait, but once I saw it's from HDTVTest I click immediately🤣 Great content as always!
Is there any other recommended monitors, on the same level of the AW3423DWF right now? Or should I just wait for the next generation of QD-OLEDs?
The fan noise is very much audible on mine. If you have it set on eco mode (default) the exhaust fan on the top of the monitor (separate from the Gsync fan, which is inaudible) will come on after 5-10min. Depending on your tolerance and quietness of your PC this could be a deal breaker. I can only describe the noise as a kind of faint coil whine sound (but not coil whine...) mixed with air movement.
Basically the fan profile on eco is too aggressive and the essentially laptop fan inside isn't the best and can only assume the bearings aren't exactly great.
The annoying thing is, if you turn off eco mode, the fan just spins constantly instead at a much lower speed and you can no longer hear it.
However, the drawback is that the fan will keep spinning even when the monitor is sleeping and will draw around 10w (according to someone who measured it with eco mode off).
Basically if they updated the firmware with a better eco mode fan profile, it would be a non issue.
Nice video as always Vincent. What speakers are those shown with the monitor?
The gray blacks under light are similar to the plasma issue, only a little bit inverted, since with plasma you needed a black coating to prevent phosphorus from getting greenishly bright in the light, while here you need to remove the coating?...or possibly the Quatnum dot layer gets excited by the light in the room and puts out its own light (yes, Quantum dots are self-emmissive when excited by light) and perhaps there is actually no "black trinitron" 🙂coating on the monitor to prevent this...Vince, can you please investigate further?
Thank you for talking about the coating and verify it's exactly what I saw. I though it look gray compare to the black border. This is a deal breaker for me. Black have to look black at all time.
I wish I watched this before buying. I just "upgraded" from the AW3418DW to AW3423DWF and the second thing I noticed was that the color fringing is AWFUL. If you just have a grey/white rectangle on a black background you can clearly see a magenta line at edge
This also appears on text, especially white on black.
Same. The other channels simply said it was the gold standard. Period. I disagree. I have the AWDW version. Now I'm looking to salvage whatever value I can get.
CAN'T WAIT FOR THE COMPARISON VIDEO!
Hello! Is there going to be a calibration video for this monitor? Mine just arrived and I would love to get the most out of this display! Thank you!! :)
Can you review 3423dwf?
That anti-reflective coating is seriously such a weird choice. It's just so clearly hurting the monitor's performance, and using it in a dim room could really strain your eyes.
I wouldn't be buying this monitor due to its cost, but this is just a no-buy for me entirely, it seems like it would reduce the contrast perception too much.
TBH is not really that weird of a choice, since 99.9% of current PC monitors use anti-reflective/matte coating, especially gaming ones. EVE has released their Spectrum 4K 144hz with a Glossy Panel and it seems to be gathering a good amount of attention, but their reputation with several delays and issues with not even receiving their monitors until months after the due date make them a hard pass to a lot of people. Maybe if the Glossy EVE Spectrum turns out to be a huge success, other brands might start bringing this option for their monitors.
thank you for your awesome in depth information. So well explained. It's so hard to find the right monitor....
Great info. I was thinking about getting this monitor, glad I watched this first.
@HDTVTest So I assume Qd-oled tv's will have the same color fringing? This can be fixed via software?If so couldn't a firmware update fix the issue?
This is quite the critical information that nobody else talks about. All these things would be really nice to know before a purchase. Great video.
I'll never buy a display again til I've seen it reviewed on this channel. Simply stellar work.
Auch, that anti-glare filter would kill some of the OLED charm for me in this case... Can't monitor makes finally just accept a gloss or semi-gloss option? There's *plenty* of picture enthusiasts who would be into that. Myself included.
The problem is this is a desktop monitor. You have to realise there’s a compromise between work-useable pure gloss and semi-anti-glare.
I’ve been using this and seriously, in my most honest opinion, you only notice the semi anti-glare when it’s off. When it’s on, it’s invisible.
I’ve had a MacBook Pro for work with pure gloss. Phenomenal displays that were borderline unusable during the day due to glare.
This is not a television to only watching shows in dark rooms. It’s a work station.
The anti-glare coating is not what's causing the "grey blacks" in bright rooms, the pixels are causing that.
@@KarimTemple Wrong.
Have you actually used this monitor? Are you going to tell me that all the deep blacks I’ve been experiencing have in fact been greys? Lmfao
@@exhermit it's in THIS VIDEO lmao
IT IS GLOSSY!!!
Long time listener first time commenter. Would the C2 42” be a better option for consoles with the limitations on this monitor? Thanks in advance
for pc use, any oleds and qd oleds suck, low nit brightness for office use.. no thanks hit me up when they can hold 400-500 nits
Hi man currently right what tv what you recommend for next gen gaming just your opinion
Thanks to this guy I now know the name of the display Alienware AW3423DW by heart. It’s burned in now.
I just tried AW3423DW side by side with a AW3821DW in a Dell showroom. I found the QD-OLED panel showing more coarse texts than the IPS panel. Thanks for explaining the reason!
Hey, I’m curious if you can explain a bit more the difference you perceived between the two? What do you mean by ‘coarse’? Was it bad?
@@tyler4267 'Grainy' might be a better descripiton than 'coarse' or 'blurry' (as in the video) for its text rendering. Like he explained in 0:50, there's no OS-specific sub-pixel rendering technique to accomodate the new layout.
Forgive me if I'm wrong please Vincent, but can't the monitor be used on console with 4K resolution with an HDMI to DP adapter cable ? I'm running that in reverse currently to a TV from a card without HDMI..🤔
How hard is it to produce an OLED with normal subpixel layout? I want to switch to OLED, but text is number one priority for me.
Most cellphone and portables use RGBoled with the catch being longevity..
Your phone screen only needs to last as much as the battery. Not the case for a monitor.
Pretty hard. LG made everyone's TV panels for years and years because they [bought] a patent on the only way to make OLED easy and cheap (i.e. WRGB).
Now with QD-OLED, you can do a decent RGB setup but the pixels are quantum dots which means it would be a lot more expensive to do a traditional stripe.
LG's OLED Pro monitors (available in 27 and 32" sizes) use a standard RGB layout. They are limited to 60 Hz though, obviously not ideal for gaming.
What would recommend between QD OLED Alienware vs 42 inch LG C2? I use it mostly for browsing TH-cam & watching Netflix and 10% gaming?
I think it's worth mentioning that this new QD-OLED pixel structure isn't very different from what we saw in the CRT era. Most PC CRTs used a shadow mask while most CRT TVs used a slot mask and those were just as different as this QD-OLED is from more traditional PC LCDs. The whole reason that Microsoft introduced ClearType in the first place was that PC monitors were transitioning from CRTs to LCDs at the time.
There's no 'correct' pixel structure for a monitor to have. We're just going back in time in a sense here.
The coating on the monitor is only a problem if you have a light shining into it. If your light source is beside or behind the monitor then the monitor appears deep black.
So that is the solution, if possible to that issue.
Thank you for sharing, super helpful!
Thanks for the information. I am getting a new system with a 4090 GPU and was seeking to upgrade my Dell 27" U2715H - 1440 resolution monitors and thought the Alienware AW3423DWF or AW3423DW would be good upgrades, but this doesn't look to be the case. My guess is I should go with a 4K monitor but I have no idea where to start.
Great video. I am definitely on the fence for this monitor as there are more mini-led models coming out this year with 500-1000 zones. Im a big OLED fan since my B9 purchase but I don't think I would be satisfied with this model.
I think it's a great first step and the price-performance ratio is... surprisingly good for something that uses new tech and has this featureset. But... it's not perfect and personally I'd probably wait at least one iteration or see what competitors bring as well. Of course I would love to jump on the QD-OLED train, but usally the second gen stuff is a lot better for a similar price.
I'll be gladly moving to this QD-OLED monitor. Even on my high-end 512 zone Asus PG35VQ blooming is very noticeable in most HDR content. Even though it's dimmer and has less color volume, my LG C9 OLED's picture quality is just uncomparably better.
Macbook M1 Max 16 - 10,216 miniLEDs across 2,554 local dimming zones
@@CloudOmegaVII Monitor manufacturers don't have the balls to pull this off it seems
Is that supposed to be impressive??
500-1,000 zones is an embarrassing JOKE vs MILLIONS of pixels.
The Hisense U9DG Dual Cell LCD TV has over 2 MILLION local dimming zones which is the best progress in contrast ratio for LCD TV's.
May I ask what about if you drop it to 144hz? does it help with the fringing? I read somewhere that this could help so I wonder if its true.
Should I put the monitor on game mode? I Fowler the creator mode settings but I’m sure what any of these do. Also am I using hdr 1000 or 400?
I guess the "grey blacks" are similar to the old CRT days? With the quantum dots behaving somewhat similar to those old phosphor materials when room light hits the screen?
Thank you for providing this excellent informative video. Saved me so much time!
can you let us know what is the best monitors as of this date. For Photographers/Video as well as using it for games/TV shows. in the 30-40in range? OLED or better? Thanks in Advance!!!
What monitor would you recommend for games and video editing?
Could you recommend computer monitors that would be suitable for gaming, video editing and just general computer related tasks?