Want More Hook on Your Bowling Ball? Do This!
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- Get more hook on your ball with these tips!
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Got a lesson with my dear friend and fellow leftie one-hander, Derek Acuff on Friday. He taught me the biggest thing, don't push up and out, just out to work with gravity to start and it already has given me 15 to 20 extra pins right away. Love these videos - like having a coach in your own phone helping you out!
That guy Derek is a legend!
@@robertfisher6711 Derek is awesome. He is also the manager at Virtue Bowling supply at the same bowling center. He does do some of the tournaments on the PBA tour that are within driving distance of AZ. His wife is also a bowler who is in the PWBA (Coreen Acuff) but doesn't do all the tournaments, just those she can when she isn't a full time nurse.
@@melissabowers6268 ya I used to live in Arizona and Derek has drilled a few of my bowling balls!
@@melissabowers6268I also get coaching from Derek, he’s great!
That sounds similar to how I learned to use an axe as a kid. At first I would swing as hard as could. But then you realize there is a ton more wood to chop. So you have to cut back and let the axe do most of the work. But then you can kind of guide it and give more force to it at the end. I guess I need to learn that same thing with bowling. It is just a little more complicated because of the release.
So I had been struggling for a while now. I'm a 210ish avg, depending on which league. Problem is, I just can't quite get to the next level. I can score just fine, it's running strikes together. For a couple of months now, turkey, spare, turkey spare.. seems like a hambone or a five bagger were lost for me. So I went back to basics and ran this drill today in practice. Then rolled a 3 game block for a 751. This helped me so much. Between the second and third game I ran thirteen in row, spare, six pack. . It felt great to be able string some strikes together again. Thanks' for this vid. Good stuff.
Interesting. Thanks for the advice
Will definitely work with these tips during practice! 🎉
Great video love the teaching style!!
Love these educational videos!
I love the idea with the thumb and pinky on the clock. Would that mean up the back you should finish with your thumb and pinky at 9 and 3, respectively?
Very informative video Kyle!
I hear a lot about working the inside of the ball during release. Didn’t hear it mentioned in this video… is it something else to add when practicing this technique or just work on staying behind the ball?
Enjoyed very much, but for those of us whose average speed is 13-15 mph, how much slower can we go and still be productive?? I'm a 60ish aged woman with about a 190 avg who throws a 15 lb ball at about 14 mph. When I slow down I'm at 12.5 or so. I'm an up 10 dumper as Kyle likes to say but I want very much to use the lane more. Is that possible for us or are we just doomed to be admirers of guys like Kyle ??? Lol Thanks!!!
Two things:
1) In most bowling centers the speed that the monitors tell you is often VERY suspect, lol. Most of the time they get calibrated the day they're installed, and then nobody touches it ever again... so take whatever it's telling you with a grain of salt. They're good for letting you know if your speed is consistent, but the accuracy is not always the best.
2) Even if the accuracy is pretty good, the speed is being measured at only one point, and it's WAY down lane. The sensors are all in the same place, at 49.5' down lane. The lane is only 60' long... so by the time the ball gets that far it has slowed down considerably, anywhere from 2-4 mph, depending on the bowler.
So if the monitor says you threw it 14 mph (assuming it's relatively accurate) that's 14 mph when it's basically at the pins already. Off your hand it was probably closer to 16 or 17 mph. Bottom line, don't fixate on the numbers too much... unless you're using SPECTO, which will calculate the speed off your hand as well as the average speed, then you can believe the numbers. But the rudimentary systems in most bowling centers are a rough estimate at best.
You talk about making your ball curve. Does it have to do with what's in your ball. Do you spin the ball?
Did you listen to Daniel and Kyle? Maybe you should listen to the entire video.
There are a number of factors which can make the ball hook. This isn't for gameplay. It is just showing you how to see what the potential is. Once you get the feeling of what you can do then it is easier to improve.
Great video!
I put a lot of hand into my ball. This weekend I was struggling on the lanes because of how fast I throw(17-19mph). When I try to slow my throw down my teammates say they can SEE me trying to slow it down. my slow throws are 16mph and it frustrates me because I want to be between 14-15mph. But hearing the thumb at 12 and pinky at 6 will help me create more shape down lane that I can't get. I also need to work on a 4 step approach. I grew up doing 5 steps so 4 just doesn't feel right.
Idk if this helps but from my experience when going into that handshake release with speed getting into a ball with bigger core and/or aggressive coverstock helps to mellow out that snap than with a weaker ball.
Idk if this helps but from my experience when going into that handshake release with speed getting into a ball with bigger core and/or aggressive coverstock helps to mellow out that snap than with a weaker ball.
Idk if this helps but from my experience when going into that handshake release with speed getting into a ball with bigger core and/ccor aggressive coverstock helps to mellow out that snap than with a weaker ball.
Slower feet will bring your ball speed down, not FEWER steps. Plus, for us mere mortals, trying to tinker with multiple aspects of your approach at once is usually a recipe for disaster. If 5 steps feels right, then keep it... you can bring ball speed down without going to 4 steps.
Great vid
Hey coach Daniel how many reps do you ?
Would you guys consider coming to the seattle area and do a clinic?
Great video Kyle with Coach Daniel. Here’s my question for you guys or anybody down here in the comments feel free to respond. Here’s my unique problem. I am still very inconsistent in all ways but what makes me kind of unique for me as a right hand, I cannot throw traditional jersey, however I’m better at back up ball from the left side of the lane. Some people criticize me but also some people complement me because I’m very unique at all started because you guys always talk about making adjustments so how would I get better at throwing traditional jersey if the ball is not coming back and also, I am a straight player, even though most of my bowling balls hook on their own
I am not sure what you are trying to say. One big difference of playing on the left is few people play on that side. So there is less of that transition you talk about.
Great teachers
I need to stop shaping the whole lane. I need to learn how to come up the back of the ball more it is hard for me.
If I want a ball to hook like brand new again should I hit it with the same surface as out of the box finish? Let's say u have a vibe with a finish of 500 1000 &1500 should I hit it with 1500 just to knock off some lane shine
First things first... a ball only has "like new" performance once, and that's the day you drill it. Once a ball has a significant number of games on it, there's nothing you can do to get it to perform exactly as it did out of the box. The best you can hope for by freshening up the surface is to get close. As for how you get there, there are options. As you suggest, you could just hit it with the last step in the process once in a while. But every 30-50 games or so you should go through all the steps...500, 1000, 1500, etc etc. A ball spinner is a good investment if you want the results to be consistent, not to mention easier... trying to do it by hand with multiple grits will work up more of a sweat than you'd think, lol.
Surface adjustments will only do so much, though, and after a while you'll need to have your PSO run it through the rejuvenator to get some oil out of the cover, and then do a complete resurface. You can do that 2 or 3 times to a ball before the logos will disappear entirely and the ball will no longer be USBC "legal".
I been struggling With A Low Backswing & I'm Only 2 ft Away From Foul Line On A Five-Step Approach... I Know That's Very Bad But I Need Help
I've always been told not to go around the ball. Guess I need to try it.
Cool video talk tech bowling ball Brad and Kyle
Everyone has fallen in love with swinging the ball from gutter to gutter, and with today's ball surfaces and asym weight blocks it's just not necessary to carry. Learning to play in the dry is easier than chasing the oil, but the latter is the fad right now and it seems no one wants to ball down. I'd like to see Kyle and Brad address this option.
Pros and other high rev guys play the hold and not the friction. Probably hard to play the friction with 400+rpm.
@s0meguy809 Agreed. If you're going to play in the dry, you need to weaken your release, lower your rev rate, and perhaps go to a weaker ball. The benefit is that you'll be able to play the same line for a long time with only small adjustments.
@@cautiousoptimist1926 Me and my league teammate are perfect examples. I throw it about 15mph with very low revs and I play the friction mostly. I stand around 15 and throw to 10 and by game 3 I have to stand around 20-25. My teammate throws the ball at 18mph with 500rpm and he starts standing around 25 and ends up standing around 35-40.
Playing the hold or hook really just entails which miss is better. The pros do whichever the lane is asking for
I want more control to hit the pocket every time. I could care less about having greater hook.
Making it cover boards is one thing. Having power at the pins is most people’s issue
I love the instructional videos but this is the opposite of what I need. I throw about 16mph 2 handed. My ball over hooks too often and I can't add speed by lengthing my approach (I'm at the back already). Maybe I just need to move even farther left to match up what I do.
There're instructional video for your type.
Most of the beginner to intermediate bowlers I see throw the ball very slow-moderate.
Every time I try to hook a ball, it ends up in the gutter. So as a result, I have only ever bowled straight.
Great video! 3rd 😉
This is my normal approach anyway 😂😅
Who’s this coach by the way that isn’t Daniel is it ? Lol
Pro bowlers should make as much as football players..
Dont teach the suitcase!!! That DOESN'T create hook, it lessens it!!
Coach is blocking the view of the shot
Kyle shapes the lane and coach blocks the whole lane. 😅🤦🏿♂️
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Kyle says he’s not great with creating rotation yet he has more revs than just about anyone I watch that throws with one hand period !
Rotation and revs is not the same
Even if you have a lot of rev rate, If you get no rotation the ball doesn't hook. If you get so much rotation, the ball is spinning like a top, it will also not hook. You want something in between those two.
1st?
The man in blue shirt needs to move out of the way. I’d like to see everything please.
Maybe move out of the way so we can see the ball and it's working!!
I did listen. Nothing about what is in the ball.