Finally, a pro is talking about what really happens, not saying just get your hand behind the ball. There is no tip or video I can't stand more than telling an amateur to get their hand behind the ball; it helps no one. This is the information people need to understand for more revs and better release. You just helped so many people finally understand how to throw like a pro, and I salute you for it.
I always use any opportunity to improve my skills. I will work on improving my way of communicating in English. This video will help me a lot in this. Thanks Darren, I like it 😊😊😊
Thank you for letting Darren share your knowledge with all of his followers! I definitely learned a lot from this video! I might have to switch back again to 1 hand!
I've been watching bowling content on TH-cam for like 10 years probably - this is the best video I've ever seen. Super informative and actually well explained, unlike a lot of coaching videos. Would love to have a lesson or two with Coach Gurkov; I definitely learned a few things I'll be trying next time I'm practicing.
Alex Gurkov was my coach in college for a year. Even though I was with him for 3 months, he improved my rev rate and bowling IQ tremendously. While also pointing out key elements I should focus on to keep my physical game consistent. Thank you Alex 🙌🏼
This is one of the best examples of a great teacher I’ve ever seen. Just watching this from my couch, I’m sitting here thinking to myself, “wow, that seems so simple and makes so much sense.” This is the mark of a great teacher.
Love this. I've been working on these two styles of cupping over the last few months. Started with what he said was style 2, but I found I wasn't able to get my wrist uncupped fast enough at the bottom, so it introduced some loft into my game. So I switched to style 1, cupping the ball at the top of my backswing when the ball is essentially weightless. It felt much more relaxed to me and gave my wrist enough time to uncup at the bottom, which allowed me to lay the ball down better. I'm sure if I were to work on style 2, I could get even more revs on the ball, but I'm sitting at a pretty high rev rate right now with style 1, so I'll stick with that. Absolutely awesome video!
I absolutely LOVE it when I see idols of mine, like DTang, getting lessons from others. It just PROVES how good they really are! .. The best in the world continue to get lessons and coaching from others, always. Just look at the greatest golfer of all time, Tiger Woods. He had a swing coach his entire career. Never too proud to continue to get training from others. The greatest percussionist to have ever lived, Neil Peart, got drumming lessons all through his career to his last days. I just have so much respect for such people. The truly greatest at performing such arts (sports, music, etc) ALWAYS strive to improve by seeking knowledge from others, that's why they become the GREATEST at their endeavors. Darren is so super talented, and I LOVE the fact that he is getting additional training like this. It just proves to me that Darren is striving to get better and better. Hat tip to Darren! .. and thank you Darren for posting this. FANTASTIC!!!!
This is a masterclass in being coachable. Asking confirming questions and making sure you understand the coach is so important. The coach knows what they want to see and seeing Darren understand it and execute on it is what makes him a pro!
Coach Alex is awesome! I was fortunate to get a lesson with him at Kegel in August and he helped me get rid of tightness and increased the consistency of my entry angle/axis rotation simply by having my body lean forward. My other coaches didn't know how to get around my problem, but Coach Alex did. He explains concepts in a way that is easy for me to understand. It made a huge difference to my game that I needed like a year ago. He is just fantastic.
This guy reminds me of my drum teacher from back in the day. I was a young buck playing every gig with just sheer power; hammering away with no mechanics which lead to some injuries (tendonitis, sprains, etc). I told him I wanted to play every gig like Neil Peart with his finesse and dynamics. The lessons were so similar to this video: details, mechanics, feel, and ergonomics. I wouldn't be the drummer that I am today if it weren't for him. I'm gonna apply this same principles to my bowling. Great post, Darren!
Efficiency of motion.This coach knows his stuff and explains it very well even though English is obviously not his first language. One of the best I've ever seen at his first style was the king of swing, Mike Fagan. So smooth and efficient. Anyone who says bowling is not a feel sport is dead wrong. His explanation of the tilt near the end regarding both styles makes total sense. Thinking of this as a two hander, it makes sense now why most two handers have very low tilt or even negative tilt.
Saw this vid today along the way to work, like all the others commented, this is the tips that all new bowlers needed. I straight away went to the nearby bowling alley after work and tried it, it wasnt perfect of course but totally improved my game and helped me with the over tension on my shoulders! thank you so much for the vid. keep it up darren, wishing to see you to be on one of the televised stepladders in the tours!
So good. I find it amazing that he is able to accurately deconstruct such detail. I have been working on a lot of this over the last several months and this clarifies things so incredibly well. Thanks for the inside look into this lesson. I have already paused this numerous times and will be doing so as I re-watch this a few more times.. at least.
Daria Pajak has one of the cleanest releases in the game IMO, the amount of revs she gets just by doing that elbow trick is crazy. I am a 2 hander but I am jealous of that butter release.
Have you tried incorporating a yo-yo style release in your 2 handed game? I was thinking it through today and need to give it a try in my sesh next week.
@@rleriche5044 No. Two handers don't curl their arm up at the moment of release. That's the "yo-yo" release. It's done by 1H to get farther under the ball but a 2-hander should be fully under the ball already.
so valuable. Bowling is one of the few ball sports where it seems like the right info is hard to get. I wouldn't even know the first thing about finding an in person coach.
What a video...What a couching...thank you Darren, this is an absolute blessing for global bowling community... Dude, there are 100 so called pro players in my country, all of us learning from youtube...You exposed your issues worldwide and it so motivating to know that you are not a machine we thought you are, and that all bowlers have same thoughts and bad habits to fix...
Some really great work here. Being able to integrate this level of coaching speaks to how much you care as an athlete. Interesting and fun to watch. More of this please!
The most wanted video tips i've been waiting..Thanks for this Darren..I finally understand the whole concept of this techniques..Will implement this on my practise..Thanks again.
this is really good stuff. I'm currently only halfway through the video, but i really appreciate how detailed his coach is through this lesson. The way he explains how you let the ball falling to start the cupping of the wrist is so simple and easy. its kind of infuriating that I didn't think of it myself. i cant wait to try some of these tips when i throw next
I’m only a few minutes in, but this is the best video for bowling education I have ever seen. Well done. I want to go do these now and learn to relax my wrist/cup/hand. Amazing video.
This is great bowling TH-cam content. Thanks for posting this Darren. It’s a great lesson that many of us could never get or afford. Love to see you had Lance with you.
This was the first guy I've ever heard talk about grip pressure this way and how it is a good thing. I have weak wrists because I'm a small guy so this will be very helpful to learn how to grip properly to use the muscles correctly
Darren, I can't wait to see you have more options during TV season! There's so much room for competitive bowling, and YES it's a better experience for fans like me, who can't get out and do it as much as I used to.
I just started doing that grip style 1 a few months ago. I was doing it for a different reason though; I'm not the strongest person in the world, so I struggled getting under it at release. Using that moment of weightlessness to get my hand behind it was a huge realization for me. Glad others are also using that same technique; it makes a ton of sense from a physics perspective.
This is exactly how I bowl. I knew immediately when the guy was showing to shake/flop your wrist, and shoulders that he was going to help you. You can not use muscle to manipulate the ball and stay consistent enough to rev it and hit your mark. I was a scratch golfer when I played and this is true in a golf swing as well. You have to stay loose and not use muscle. Tension in your muscles restricts the swing and revs in bowling, and swing speed/rotation in golf.
🎉🎉🎉 Darren, Yay & many thanks for paying heed to some of my suggestions as hopefully they’ll remove the excess strain on your arm letting it fully heal and to remove the need for tape strapping. Hang Loose, stay composed & best wishes to become a PBA majors champion! 🎉🎉🎉
😮, apparently, I naturally do this cupping motion after breaking my forarm years back. I do find both these cupping techniques have their uses. The gripping with the bottom part of the thumb 👌
Aight, I've always used a support to bowl but a few weeks ago I decided to go without it and try to actually bowl with the "yoyo" style and asked one of my teammates to teach me, this coach that helped you actually helped me with the "squeeze" technique he showed u, I finally feel my thumb leave the ball and my fingers stay in it 8/10 times instead of 1/10 times
Thanks for the video. I am also practising these 2 skills. My hands are small. Need some tricks to loosen up my swing and to get the fingers under the ball easier.
Cupping does create tension, my hip flexor agrees. I needed this advice as well. 15 lbs swinging from one side of your body can do something to you after awhile, who would have thought?
I saw it as a reverse basketball shot. I just forget to do it on the lanes. lol. I just maintain a cup until my targeting gets better. Then I work on the extra flip of my wrist.
DT, I bowled the Jim Kent Memorial pro-am and I asked you about a hockey stick shaped ball. You told me about a new release that was clean and somewhat angular. The only thing you could tell me about it is that it has blue in it The problem is all 3 releases from SPI have blue in them and they all look clean through the front. Now that there is an official release can you tell me which one you were talking about? Thanks, Sam
Finally, a pro is talking about what really happens, not saying just get your hand behind the ball. There is no tip or video I can't stand more than telling an amateur to get their hand behind the ball; it helps no one. This is the information people need to understand for more revs and better release. You just helped so many people finally understand how to throw like a pro, and I salute you for it.
I always use any opportunity to improve my skills. I will work on improving my way of communicating in English. This video will help me a lot in this. Thanks Darren, I like it 😊😊😊
Thank you for letting Darren share your knowledge with all of his followers! I definitely learned a lot from this video! I might have to switch back again to 1 hand!
I love how well you explained these two styles and how to hold the bowling ball. Thank you for what you do for bowling.
I've been watching bowling content on TH-cam for like 10 years probably - this is the best video I've ever seen. Super informative and actually well explained, unlike a lot of coaching videos. Would love to have a lesson or two with Coach Gurkov; I definitely learned a few things I'll be trying next time I'm practicing.
Alex Gurkov was my coach in college for a year. Even though I was with him for 3 months, he improved my rev rate and bowling IQ tremendously. While also pointing out key elements I should focus on to keep my physical game consistent. Thank you Alex 🙌🏼
This is one of the best examples of a great teacher I’ve ever seen. Just watching this from my couch, I’m sitting here thinking to myself, “wow, that seems so simple and makes so much sense.” This is the mark of a great teacher.
Love this. I've been working on these two styles of cupping over the last few months. Started with what he said was style 2, but I found I wasn't able to get my wrist uncupped fast enough at the bottom, so it introduced some loft into my game. So I switched to style 1, cupping the ball at the top of my backswing when the ball is essentially weightless. It felt much more relaxed to me and gave my wrist enough time to uncup at the bottom, which allowed me to lay the ball down better. I'm sure if I were to work on style 2, I could get even more revs on the ball, but I'm sitting at a pretty high rev rate right now with style 1, so I'll stick with that. Absolutely awesome video!
Coach Alex is awesome. We need more of him.. great video.
I absolutely LOVE it when I see idols of mine, like DTang, getting lessons from others. It just PROVES how good they really are! .. The best in the world continue to get lessons and coaching from others, always. Just look at the greatest golfer of all time, Tiger Woods. He had a swing coach his entire career. Never too proud to continue to get training from others. The greatest percussionist to have ever lived, Neil Peart, got drumming lessons all through his career to his last days. I just have so much respect for such people. The truly greatest at performing such arts (sports, music, etc) ALWAYS strive to improve by seeking knowledge from others, that's why they become the GREATEST at their endeavors. Darren is so super talented, and I LOVE the fact that he is getting additional training like this. It just proves to me that Darren is striving to get better and better. Hat tip to Darren! .. and thank you Darren for posting this. FANTASTIC!!!!
Pass this on to 220avg
This is a masterclass in being coachable. Asking confirming questions and making sure you understand the coach is so important. The coach knows what they want to see and seeing Darren understand it and execute on it is what makes him a pro!
Thank you for posting this Darren. This will also help me
Coach Alex is awesome! I was fortunate to get a lesson with him at Kegel in August and he helped me get rid of tightness and increased the consistency of my entry angle/axis rotation simply by having my body lean forward. My other coaches didn't know how to get around my problem, but Coach Alex did. He explains concepts in a way that is easy for me to understand. It made a huge difference to my game that I needed like a year ago. He is just fantastic.
A good coach is not simply one having knowledge but being able to explain it in a way that others can easily understand.
Who is currently on their roster of coaches?
This guy reminds me of my drum teacher from back in the day. I was a young buck playing every gig with just sheer power; hammering away with no mechanics which lead to some injuries (tendonitis, sprains, etc). I told him I wanted to play every gig like Neil Peart with his finesse and dynamics. The lessons were so similar to this video: details, mechanics, feel, and ergonomics. I wouldn't be the drummer that I am today if it weren't for him. I'm gonna apply this same principles to my bowling. Great post, Darren!
A lot of views in a couple of hours tells you this video means a lot to many bowlers of all levels. Great work!!
I really like how he describes the tension of the old vs new swing
Efficiency of motion.This coach knows his stuff and explains it very well even though English is obviously not his first language.
One of the best I've ever seen at his first style was the king of swing, Mike Fagan. So smooth and efficient.
Anyone who says bowling is not a feel sport is dead wrong.
His explanation of the tilt near the end regarding both styles makes total sense. Thinking of this as a two hander, it makes sense now why most two handers have very low tilt or even negative tilt.
i will 100% be using this video to learn more with revs and trying to bowl in a different to improve my game.
Saw this vid today along the way to work, like all the others commented, this is the tips that all new bowlers needed. I straight away went to the nearby bowling alley after work and tried it, it wasnt perfect of course but totally improved my game and helped me with the over tension on my shoulders! thank you so much for the vid. keep it up darren, wishing to see you to be on one of the televised stepladders in the tours!
So good. I find it amazing that he is able to accurately deconstruct such detail. I have been working on a lot of this over the last several months and this clarifies things so incredibly well. Thanks for the inside look into this lesson. I have already paused this numerous times and will be doing so as I re-watch this a few more times.. at least.
Alex is the goat I got coached by him in Kegel like 2 years ago and his coaching is actually game changing
I noticed with the second cupping style, it looks like Mike Fagan’s release
I thought the exact same thing
Thank you Darren and Jesse for this video, great coaches speak and information!
Daria Pajak has one of the cleanest releases in the game IMO, the amount of revs she gets just by doing that elbow trick is crazy. I am a 2 hander but I am jealous of that butter release.
Have you tried incorporating a yo-yo style release in your 2 handed game? I was thinking it through today and need to give it a try in my sesh next week.
Her elbow naturally hyper extends about 15% past 180 degrees
@@rleriche5044 2 handers don't "yo-yo" release.
@@scottstottsgaming obviously not fully or it wouldnt be 2 handed!
@@rleriche5044 No. Two handers don't curl their arm up at the moment of release. That's the "yo-yo" release. It's done by 1H to get farther under the ball but a 2-hander should be fully under the ball already.
so valuable. Bowling is one of the few ball sports where it seems like the right info is hard to get. I wouldn't even know the first thing about finding an in person coach.
This video is gold. Literally the blue print in one video. Wow. Thank you Darren 🙏
Best advanced instructional video I've seen. I bowl 450-500 rpm, and this made me realize how tense I am. Great video m
What a video...What a couching...thank you Darren, this is an absolute blessing for global bowling community... Dude, there are 100 so called pro players in my country, all of us learning from youtube...You exposed your issues worldwide and it so motivating to know that you are not a machine we thought you are, and that all bowlers have same thoughts and bad habits to fix...
I really like how much softer and through the ball Darren looked at the release for a lot of the video. Visually it looked great.
Some really great work here. Being able to integrate this level of coaching speaks to how much you care as an athlete. Interesting and fun to watch. More of this please!
The most wanted video tips i've been waiting..Thanks for this Darren..I finally understand the whole concept of this techniques..Will implement this on my practise..Thanks again.
This video is absolutely wild. Wow, what a great job of breaking this down
Sheesh you made the second cupping style look insanely clean 🔥
I thought this was an extremely informative video, working through some of the process is really great. Very much appreciate this content, Darren!
That was so interesting to listen to.
I actually really enjoyed this video.
Would love if you did more of them.
this is really good stuff. I'm currently only halfway through the video, but i really appreciate how detailed his coach is through this lesson. The way he explains how you let the ball falling to start the cupping of the wrist is so simple and easy. its kind of infuriating that I didn't think of it myself. i cant wait to try some of these tips when i throw next
I’m only a few minutes in, but this is the best video for bowling education I have ever seen. Well done. I want to go do these now and learn to relax my wrist/cup/hand. Amazing video.
just by watching this im learning how to get better this coach is really cool im learrning alot now
Thank you Darren.
Mahalo for posting & Sharing this Video Darren Tang 🤙 This will help me improve my bowling skills 🎳🤙🎳🤙
I really like this coach, his methods make a LOT of sense!!
This has been the best bowling help content video I’ve ever seen. I was a day late D.T
This is great bowling TH-cam content. Thanks for posting this Darren. It’s a great lesson that many of us could never get or afford. Love to see you had Lance with you.
This was the first guy I've ever heard talk about grip pressure this way and how it is a good thing. I have weak wrists because I'm a small guy so this will be very helpful to learn how to grip properly to use the muscles correctly
Fagan was the prime example of this method.
This is so good Darren, great advices - thanks! Immediately shared it to my mates 🙂 Would love to see more of this!
💯 cool to see pros getting coached . There’s always room to get gooder
Even more gooder 😂
@@AverageLeagueHack the goal being to be the goodest ofc
Excellent video and excellent coaching advice. I hope this leads to more wins for you Darren!
I love watching you bowl, but this is great! Thanks.
Darren, I can't wait to see you have more options during TV season!
There's so much room for competitive bowling, and YES it's a better experience for fans like me, who can't get out and do it as much as I used to.
I just started doing that grip style 1 a few months ago. I was doing it for a different reason though; I'm not the strongest person in the world, so I struggled getting under it at release. Using that moment of weightlessness to get my hand behind it was a huge realization for me. Glad others are also using that same technique; it makes a ton of sense from a physics perspective.
This is exactly how I bowl. I knew immediately when the guy was showing to shake/flop your wrist, and shoulders that he was going to help you. You can not use muscle to manipulate the ball and stay consistent enough to rev it and hit your mark. I was a scratch golfer when I played and this is true in a golf swing as well. You have to stay loose and not use muscle. Tension in your muscles restricts the swing and revs in bowling, and swing speed/rotation in golf.
It's all most like how Mike Fagan released the ball. You talk about a loose swing and didn't cup until the end of the release. Very cool video.
Great video, keep them coming! Explain more on second pendulum
🎉🎉🎉 Darren, Yay & many thanks for paying heed to some of my suggestions as hopefully they’ll remove the excess strain on your arm letting it fully heal and to remove the need for tape strapping. Hang Loose, stay composed & best wishes to become a PBA majors champion! 🎉🎉🎉
thank you Darren! you're the best !!!!
this was a great vid guys, thanks !!!! keep on doing that work DTang, what a kool coach!!!
lets look at Darren's back as the coach is explaining the important stuff. great videography.
Hey Darren thank u for stopping and taking a photo with me 🙏
This is the best lesson I never got.
Bro i love Alex! I’ve worked with him several times at Kegal here in Florida! Awesome guy!!
Thanks for sharing this Darren. Love these type of videos, maybe in the future you could also share your practice sessions too.
Absolutely amazing! These are things I've been working on! I think I can use some of this! Thanks!
😮, apparently, I naturally do this cupping motion after breaking my forarm years back. I do find both these cupping techniques have their uses. The gripping with the bottom part of the thumb 👌
Love your videos. I'm a 2 handed bowler trying to learn technique and consistency. I've learned a lot from you
That's the difference in the caliber of bowler.. Because he's changing all of these things yet at regular speed it looks damn near identical...
Damn that guy sitting down is the same height as Darren 😂
thanks alot darren.. this vid certainly helps me to understand bowling alot more...
I love working with Coach Alex at Kegel Training Center
With the 2nd method of cupping, I believe is what JR Raymond teaches as well
Loved this, thank you for sharing, can't wait to get to practice!
Aight, I've always used a support to bowl but a few weeks ago I decided to go without it and try to actually bowl with the "yoyo" style and asked one of my teammates to teach me, this coach that helped you actually helped me with the "squeeze" technique he showed u, I finally feel my thumb leave the ball and my fingers stay in it 8/10 times instead of 1/10 times
Agree it feels like it's ripping my fingers off which is excellent
Amazing, love it. Please post how much your rate goes up once you get all this down.
You know you have a good teacher when they define their terms and try to gauge what your understanding of the term before giving instruction.
Just got the storm ion max today
honestly, Korea have using this style long time, their release is damn smooth
This is a great video! I learned so much from it! I now understand what I was doing wrong.
Patiently waiting for the day he gets a two handed coach so I can get free lessons by proxy lol.
Thanks for showing this video lot to think about and try
Thanks for the video. I am also practising these 2 skills. My hands are small. Need some tricks to loosen up my swing and to get the fingers under the ball easier.
That coach is very good! I'll bet he also plots big trouble for moose & squirrel.
The 2nd style of cupping looks more smooth, quick, and more speed to me. I guess it's because the 1st style does have a later timing and lower tilt.
👍👌very much appreciated Darren
Cupping does create tension, my hip flexor agrees. I needed this advice as well. 15 lbs swinging from one side of your body can do something to you after awhile, who would have thought?
Thank you for this video!
I saw it as a reverse basketball shot. I just forget to do it on the lanes. lol. I just maintain a cup until my targeting gets better. Then I work on the extra flip of my wrist.
This was fantastic
Lance..over there getting some practice in. :)
I'd love to see him go through your 2- hand style
We definitely know which release Forrest Kritzer uses. 😂. This video is great though I'm definitely going to practice them.
Me personally I would think the cupping at the bottom of the swing would make me more accurate than cupping at the top. Just a thought
Darren, what about for making spares? Should you still cup using style 1 or 2 and just flatten the hand?
Dammit he's giving away all of my secrets
Really proud of you for finally branching out of 2 handed content good for you to try 1 handed
Ales is awesome - met him at Kegel. Ask him about keeping your head still :) He has a great tip from his wife
This was so Fagan good.
Guy used to make it look so effortless.
i had lessons from alex, he's an awesome coach
I can feel my Carpal Tunnel coming back already 😬
Please give us updates on the progression and let us know if there was a benefit to this. Thanks.
I LIKE IT, YES.
i love this coach haha 👉 "I like it"
DT, I bowled the Jim Kent Memorial pro-am and I asked you about a hockey stick shaped ball. You told me about a new release that was clean and somewhat angular. The only thing you could tell me about it is that it has blue in it The problem is all 3 releases from SPI have blue in them and they all look clean through the front. Now that there is an official release can you tell me which one you were talking about?
Thanks,
Sam