It's good you were having problems dialing in the path, especially with the Hustle. This is what we run up against. Thanks for explaining all the options to overcome dry lanes.
I really like how you guys referred the balls as "the strong ball", "the purple ball", etc. As a youth coach, a lot of kids have equipment that they don't know the name of, but they know what it does. Just telling them to garb your "purple ball" helps them out a lot. I know a lot of my kids watch your videos. Thanks guys.
Storm needs to hurry up and make that B&K ball! The content y'all produce is... chef's kiss. Extremely helpful and y'all break it down so well. Thank you gents!
Guys love your explanations for dry yet Kyle is a high rev playing left I would like to see how a lower rev lower speed how you would play the lanes with ball adjustments as more down and in players
2:43 Soooo many people tell me to move left when missing left, and I could never fully understand why. THIS explanation just made the lightbulb go off for me! You guys are my source of knowledge! Thank God for your TH-cam channel!
Was a taught a very easy method to address this: finishing hand positions. When throwing for most curve and power, point the index finger and slice the ceiling. When throwing for mild curve and power, put the tip of the middle finger in the ceiling. When throwing for little to no curve and power (aka straight ball), put the tip of the third finger in the ceiling. When throwing a backup ball, drive the pinky into the ceiling. Works with any ball on any lane condition.
Thanks for sharing these helpful tips. For me, I struggle to hit my mark consistently, especially when my ball is coming up high and I have to move left. I've been working on targeting and getting the ball out on the lane a little bit more (although I'm not very good at lofting). I have also found that when I get more knee bend and my trail leg is on the ground at the right angle, it makes all the difference. Looking forward to seeing you guys back on the tour. Hope to see you guys at the PBA Delaware Classic. Brad, I believe next year will be a better year of bowling for you. Don't ever give up.
Thanks for this video. I'm bowling with neighbors tonight and they think I'm a really good bowler. But day after Christmas, kids, adults all day long on the lanes. We'll bowl sometime around 8:30 tonight. The lanes will be toasty. This also describes our league lanes by 3rd game. Great to see you use technique and strategy.
Can you guys pls make a video explaining how to decide, according to pattern length and oil volume, not just at what arrow to point but at what break point/pin to aim to? (basically deciding the launching angle all things considered)
Great video. I ran into this yesterday. The lanes were dry from go. First practice game was figuring things out which I did about the 7th frame. Then the next game was great posted a 257. But the next two games it was a struggle to find the right spot or my targeting or angle was off when I moved in. Thanks for all you do, I enjoy the lessons and use them to improve my game a little at a time.
You should do an equivalent video for oily lanes or maybe lanes with carry down from a party before. I've had games where my Proton Phyxix misses right while playing as right as I could. Would love to know what else to do.
my exact thoughts, how to overcome the puddle from urethane or plastic balls... this is tougher than just moving left when they dry up a few boards at a time, IMHO.
You 2 are the best, this is the exact video we need. I have a Hustle RIP (purple one, not the M&M one pictured between shots,) also drilled the same way and I could not defeat dry lanes even after polishing it with CTD. After this video dropped, bowled great games.
To expand on your last point: there was usable oil in this video and low revs and speed will work in that case. But there are times when it is so burnt up that you don't have the strength to loft the gutter even for that. In that case I go to the ball with the most aggressive core and roll the ball almost straight end over end. At some point the core will make the ball turn over a little and give some angle. The advantage this has is it is VERY controllable. There is not a lot of carry so you won't get 250, but 210 is doable. And on conditions that bad, 210 is a good place to be.
This was an extremely helpful video - I enjoy rolling my DV8 Collision and it's the first ball I've used that's reactive - I'm very slow when cold so I always start way left, but now I starting to understand more on how to control my rev rate and judge the lane - This was definitely great in helping to visualize what's going on
GREAT video !! I’ve been bowling for a year, in leagues - I just recently switched from throwing straight to hooking and using higher end balls. I saw may average jump up 20 pins or so initially … but have had inconsistent games a lot last couple weeks and I think it has a lot to do with when the lane is burnt up. This video really helps me know how and why to adjust rather than just “trying stuff” and getting frustrated so THANK YOU !!! 🙌🏼🎳
This without a doubt one of your best videos for a advanced bowler I would love to see more on lane conditions and matching the right ball. What to look for & how to read the lane and ball reaction. I have recently bowled on some super beat up lanes and my hustle wine kept going through the head pin but my Jackal Ghost on the same mark was just carrying great. I also have really good luck with my (MCP) blue tank on these type conditions. On paper it is a weak ball but it is a beast on conditions like this. I never had more than 2 balls until 3 years ago. Man building a serious arsenal make all the difference. My average went up 30 plus pins. You guys are awesome and one of the reasons I have improved.
Reiterate…just incredible info. I am an older bowler and am just struggling to open up my angles, it’s just new to me, but with lots of practice I will be able to use it soon, I hope. But I simply love your explanation, of really the duality of strategy. There are many ways of getting the results you want. Ball choice, angle changes, speed adjustment..and not one choice is the ultimate one. It’s a feel, intuition thing sometimes. It’s a complicated sport. This week I chose a ball on the first game that I thought was the wrong choice from an intellectual aspect, but it was feeling great in warm up. It was a symmetrical pearl I use as my ball starts to jump off the spot with my strongest ball. At first it did not work but with slower speed it started to eat the pins. You never know always why it works and sometimes you make it work. But ultimately seeing what your ball is doing and reacting is the key. Thanks again, you two are the best
Thanks for the video guys! I enjoyed it very much as well as the info you provided. I do have a question though; I'm getting back into the sport (haven't bowled league in about 25+ yrs), how do I figure out which brand & ball is best for me? Keep up the great work and I can't wait to see 1 or both of you on the next TV show!!!
If you are just getting back into the game, don't worry about brand yet. Look for a ball that will be versatile for you. Look for mid-level hook. If you have low revs/high speed, get a slightly more aggressive ball. Less aggressive if you have more revs/lower speed. Finding the brand that works best for you is only through experience. When you start buying multiple balls over time, you will see a trend of which manufacturer works best for you. Fab (original Hammer line) was my favorite, followed by Brunswick. But times change. I now favor Storm.
I added the Hustle Rip to my arsenal about two months ago because my house I league in tend to transition quickly. I had it drilled pin down and a little left of center to my ring finger. Absolutely love it and it has helped a ton. Plus I hammer 10 pin spares with it
I grew up on drylanes. I developed a great technique for drylanes. Over the last 10 years I've only had to use it once. If I was bowling on a completely stripped Lane it would take me a little warm up to get the technique back but it's something I'll never forget.
Thanks you Brad that what I do...and it does wonderful results.. my question is do you used the weak ball or the stronger ball for it to set? What is best..I couldn't see the ball you used.
When I try and play that deep, I always seem to pull the ball. How do you guys combat pulling the ball when playing that deep? You guys rock! Thanks for the informational videos!
Aligne your bowling shoulder, you hand your forearm and your hips to the primary target. There's no way you are gonig to hit those extreme lines by being square to the line.
Great video guys! This is one of your best. Very informative and y’all did a great job explaining what you are seeing and how you adjust from it. I would love you guys to do a video explaining your adjustments when you leave 10 pins, 2 pins, etc. I think you have done one before but I really get a lot out of you talking about it.
Ran into this exact situation yesterday at R.P.Western. Zero oil and I have Phaze II, Fate, and Eternity in my bag. Eternity was the only thing with polish on it. Had to go from 6 thru 8 to 15-ish to 20 for any hold at all. Thank you for this video! I prefer these educational videos to ball reviews. Everyone does opinion pieces.
i seen this video back wen it dropped and i’m back now after getting better i was wondering if you only have strong balls for money reasons would it be a strategy to flatten your shot would be an option ?
thanks brad & Kyle at the house i bowl in everyone play the 2nd/3nd arrow and it dries up quicky but when I move left it seems like my balls don't want to hook back when i throw out to 2nd arrow any ideas thanks for all the info
It makes me feel better as an amateur bowler to know that even though I have a 195 average, lane conditions and house oil patterns can make it very easy to shoot 130 games or under, and that it's nothing but trial and error to find something that works. Bowling today has become much more challenging than it was 20 years ago because of the way lanes have changed and trying to bowl with 7 other people on lanes throwing completely different shots every time.
I mastered the technique of bowling on dry lanes already. I pack my shit up, walk up to the front desk and tell them if they want my money to oil their fucking lanes.
Not all of us have the luxury of having two or more centers to choose from if the lanes are toasted at our home center. So, if we wanna throw, we gots to roam.
@@TheHabstrick LoL I spend enough at my house that if I call and ask for a lane to be oiled and the pattern I want on it, I get it. It's also funny that you assume I don't drink when I go bowl.
Video showed why I no longer use or try to use my Tropical Surge when the lanes are dry despite it being for dry lanes. It is too unpredictable and hooks all over the place. For dry lanes or no oil (literally when center says they didn't oil the lanes), I'd rather use plastic.
Great video. I see you can have problems like the average bowler. I am an older bowler and bowl in a senior league. The shot we get is terrible. The lanes are oiled the day before and 1 league bowls on them and then there is 5 hours of open bowling. We get the left overs. I can’t get my speed up enough to over power the lanes. With a shiny ball I get the reaction of your Hustle and with the dull ball (Mesmerize) it looks like the Magic Gem. I just purchased an IQ Tour hoping that might have less backend and easier to control.
For me my league gets what is left over from the league literally right before mine like 2 hours before so it is burned up with ALOT of carry down and I am more speed then revs and I use a quantum leap that has a 3-3/8 layout with the heavy spot towards grip center and it is right handed but for me being a lefty it flares like a 1 inch and I love it in game 1 and practice but game 2 I have to give loft to get it to go down lane but when that is not a option I go to my sanded plastic ball at 240 trucut grit to 360 grit abralon lower grit for synthetic lanes but high for wood lanes. I am thinking about getting the hammer axe so I will have another option before plastic. Plus when I release the ball I do the yo-yo with my elbow and wrist flick but I also hit the ball and whip around the ball .
great breakdown, especially when you went from gem to hustle bc thats the issue i get in league when i ball change some times.. then i get lost and wind up throwing spare ball right at the pocket 😂
I also have this, but I have this on wetter tracks and especially in house leugea. Our courts are quite wet and I throw arrows 2 to 3 and then faintly outside. However, I have two who should be strong. Roto rip Duo and Halo, but you often can't get away with it on this track because they sometimes go too straight. If I take the Hustle or even the Hysteria, I do a lot more and sometimes I find that very strange.
So Brad, I have a storm journey and after a month Im really not to happy with, I can make the adjustments you talk about for dry lanes and can get into the pocket (left handed), I don't know if its not carrying or what . the sound is like a dull thud and there very little pin action my hy road is a little better is the ball losing energy when it turns in and if so. will I need a redial or an adjust meant on my part?
Watching your videos almost makes me want to bowl again. I bowled as a "stroker" for 40+ years, then quit when the covid thing happened. But I'm almost 70, and "high rev rate" is out of the question. Do you have any videos on bowling for seniors?
Wish I would have watched this 3 weeks ago when the oil machine was broken. I suffered like everyone else on week 1 of the league. So, at least I wasn't alone. Great videos and info as always! Thanks!
Is urethane (Purple Hammer) a good choice for extreme dry? I have the HyRoad to get through smoothly on the dry, but I have had success with the PH too. I have a fairly high rev rate.
i am at 20 x 480, i struggle with trying to play on our dry lanes here, i went to very low end balls and pin under and short pin drillings. im almost curious if i should be using more surface to burn them up as far as energy goes. im so confused.,...what about going weak to start, then going to stronger later in the night?
What do you do when the track gets torched, but there is an incredible cliff of oil to still get through once you move left? I try going around it and get over reaction, but if I pinch it in, just a little, it's max penalty there, too with a 2-8-10.
Practice your spares as much as your strike shot. They strikes will come, but the last thing you want is to miss easy spares, especially a couple in the same game.
It would be nice to see some useful "tips" helps for true Senior bowlers, 60-65, 70-75 and up. Most of us no longer have the speed or rev rates but we are usually pretty accurate. I throw Motiv, Pyramid, Storm & Hammer products, 202/208 averages two different houses. I see the ladies struggle when the house shot gets dry, see a lot of Brooklyns.
If some of your opponents start left of you in the zone you want to move into later, what is the correct strategy to do in this scenario? I'm a low rev player 2nd arrow to start and many times I play against tweeners throwing between 2nd and 3rd arrow that dry up my next zone and force me way left where i really stuggle.
Great video. My lanes seem to dry up quickly where I bowl. I don't know if there's a video out there or not for this issue, but I don't know how to get the wide angle on my ball. I usually play 13ish as a left-hander and break at 7-10. When I try to go and try to do 18-25, it just goes straight and ends up in a disaster.
Great content guys! I deal with dry lanes all of the time. It's strange because they dress the lanes as we are coming in to get ready for our league. I am guessing they are using a low viscosity oil or just a very low volume. My Hustle M-M and Pitch Black has bailed me out on more than one occassion. Great stuff!
If I’m a medium rev vs. high rev guy, is there a non-burned area OUTside, and with a slightly weaker ball (specific would be helpful), where I might try to play on dry lanes or really short patterns? Thanks.
@@chriskelly509I'm low speed. (12.5 through pin) Plus I have big hands. I get serious rev rate. I think I'm getting a Twist soon. Playing the right side is almost impossible for me.
What would you suggest that I do in a bowling alley that has above ground ball return because the lanes are underground? I can only move so far left and play the hold without being on top or kicking the ball return. Would you suggest moving to a weaker ball with a pearl coverstock or something with a smaller core? Also I'm 2 handed rev dominant and throw at 14ish mph so I can't really speed up more to play the straighter shot.
Not gunna lie, it was fun to watch you struggle adjusting, because that is bowling. Equipment builds and the mechanics of our swing so important, and no 2 are the same 😉
You briefly talked about the ball entry into the pocket. Can you have a session talking about ball path entry path. What is the good or bad of straight on vs angular. Ball reaction after entering the pocket. What will be left standing. What can you do or which ball to alter your usual path to get more of the other path. I'll leave it up to you to add more on the subject. Thanks...😊🎳
Great vid once again! This week in league the lanes were almost as bad as what you guys just demonstrated. I bowled like Sh$&. I carry a 198 average and i was so frustrated i threw a 560 (3 game block) The week before i was lacing the pocket and threw an 690. I realized its a mental thing. I went into this week thinking i could throw the same line and got burned. So i was lost.
I've seen plenty of videos on 4-5 step approaches, the push away, etc. However, I've never seen a video on how to adjust for when bowling in front of the ball return. Kyle, it looked like you were only taking 2 or 3 steps. A video on how to adjust for that would be beneficial.
Those returns are very close at that bowling alley. I'm a two-hander who was never able to figure out how to drift left during the approach so I'm infront of the ball return for everything inside 3rd arrow. Normally I'm taking a 3 step approach and don't feel crowded at all but there it is more like 2.5 steps there; I would also like to see that video, specifically at that alley.
There's like a 10 year old video of some guy explaining a 3 step approach from in front of the ball return, if I find it I'll update my comment with the link.
Another great video guys. Here's an idea for another video. How can you identify when your ball is burning up? Losing just that little bit of energy where you lose striking power and just a little ball reaction. Then how do you adjust to that? Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas!
This is one of the better tutorial on this subject. I think you could have broke this into two videos, high rev & low rev players. You all showed one throw representing a lower rev player. All in all, a good tutorial.
Good info for bowling on what I like to call the "Camel Fart" pattern, which is what my league bowls on every Sunday night. So far I've had pretty good success with a Tropical Surge on these dusty, dry lanes. Been considering getting a new, slightly more aggressive ball, but not sure what the next best ball up from this would be for use on a very dry pattern...
What about for ultra low rev bowlers (150 rpms and lower) who don't have enough revs or axis rotation to move inside and throw outside and get the ball to recover? What options do they have? Should they move way outside and roll up 2 or 3 board and get the ball to roll out and roll across to the pocket in a smooth way like they are playing a short pattern?
It's good you were having problems dialing in the path, especially with the Hustle. This is what we run up against. Thanks for explaining all the options to overcome dry lanes.
I really like how you guys referred the balls as "the strong ball", "the purple ball", etc. As a youth coach, a lot of kids have equipment that they don't know the name of, but they know what it does. Just telling them to garb your "purple ball" helps them out a lot. I know a lot of my kids watch your videos. Thanks guys.
Especially since so many balls nowadays use swirly colors on the stock. Seems like you'd need a spreadsheet to keep track of your arsenal. 😮
Storm needs to hurry up and make that B&K ball! The content y'all produce is... chef's kiss. Extremely helpful and y'all break it down so well. Thank you gents!
Thanks!
Guys love your explanations for dry yet Kyle is a high rev playing left I would like to see how a lower rev lower speed how you would play the lanes with ball adjustments as more down and in players
I'm bowling on a burnt house shot tonight. Thanks for posting these tips!
Westgate lanes in Austin is a burned up house pattern after fresh oil 😆
2:43 Soooo many people tell me to move left when missing left, and I could never fully understand why. THIS explanation just made the lightbulb go off for me! You guys are my source of knowledge! Thank God for your TH-cam channel!
If you move left, woukd you still throw over the same arrow before you moved?
Was a taught a very easy method to address this: finishing hand positions.
When throwing for most curve and power, point the index finger and slice the ceiling.
When throwing for mild curve and power, put the tip of the middle finger in the ceiling.
When throwing for little to no curve and power (aka straight ball), put the tip of the third finger in the ceiling.
When throwing a backup ball, drive the pinky into the ceiling.
Works with any ball on any lane condition.
Best dialogue and teaching in the game. Thanks guys!
Appreciate you!
Going for 300 from Eral Anthony. He is a great teacher.
You guys have a long way to go.
Thanks for sharing these helpful tips. For me, I struggle to hit my mark consistently, especially when my ball is coming up high and I have to move left. I've been working on targeting and getting the ball out on the lane a little bit more (although I'm not very good at lofting). I have also found that when I get more knee bend and my trail leg is on the ground at the right angle, it makes all the difference.
Looking forward to seeing you guys back on the tour. Hope to see you guys at the PBA Delaware Classic. Brad, I believe next year will be a better year of bowling for you. Don't ever give up.
Thank yall for these type of videos please keep them coming
Thanks for this video. I'm bowling with neighbors tonight and they think I'm a really good bowler. But day after Christmas, kids, adults all day long on the lanes. We'll bowl sometime around 8:30 tonight. The lanes will be toasty. This also describes our league lanes by 3rd game. Great to see you use technique and strategy.
Can you guys pls make a video explaining how to decide, according to pattern length and oil volume, not just at what arrow to point but at what break point/pin to aim to? (basically deciding the launching angle all things considered)
Great video. I ran into this yesterday. The lanes were dry from go. First practice game was figuring things out which I did about the 7th frame. Then the next game was great posted a 257. But the next two games it was a struggle to find the right spot or my targeting or angle was off when I moved in. Thanks for all you do, I enjoy the lessons and use them to improve my game a little at a time.
Thanks for the lesson
You should do an equivalent video for oily lanes or maybe lanes with carry down from a party before. I've had games where my Proton Phyxix misses right while playing as right as I could. Would love to know what else to do.
my exact thoughts, how to overcome the puddle from urethane or plastic balls... this is tougher than just moving left when they dry up a few boards at a time, IMHO.
Thank you for this video. I can take a lot of information out of this video for my league play.
You 2 are the best, this is the exact video we need. I have a Hustle RIP (purple one, not the M&M one pictured between shots,) also drilled the same way and I could not defeat dry lanes even after polishing it with CTD. After this video dropped, bowled great games.
Funny watching Kyle "ball down" into the RIP.
I've used the RIP on dry, and it's comical :D. It's my spare ball, for 7 pins :P
To expand on your last point: there was usable oil in this video and low revs and speed will work in that case. But there are times when it is so burnt up that you don't have the strength to loft the gutter even for that. In that case I go to the ball with the most aggressive core and roll the ball almost straight end over end. At some point the core will make the ball turn over a little and give some angle. The advantage this has is it is VERY controllable. There is not a lot of carry so you won't get 250, but 210 is doable. And on conditions that bad, 210 is a good place to be.
You two are so helpful I watch all of the videos you post thank you very much
Great video this is great information. Need more of this type of videos.
This was an extremely helpful video - I enjoy rolling my DV8 Collision and it's the first ball I've used that's reactive - I'm very slow when cold so I always start way left, but now I starting to understand more on how to control my rev rate and judge the lane - This was definitely great in helping to visualize what's going on
GREAT video !!
I’ve been bowling for a year, in leagues - I just recently switched from throwing straight to hooking and using higher end balls.
I saw may average jump up 20 pins or so initially … but have had inconsistent games a lot last couple weeks and I think it has a lot to do with when the lane is burnt up.
This video really helps me know how and why to adjust rather than just “trying stuff” and getting frustrated so THANK YOU !!! 🙌🏼🎳
Super great video! I am watching this 3rd time since it came out. Marvellously illustrated in such dried conditions. Thank you Brad and Kyle! ,❤
This without a doubt one of your best videos for a advanced bowler I would love to see more on lane conditions and matching the right ball. What to look for & how to read the lane and ball reaction. I have recently bowled on some super beat up lanes and my hustle wine kept going through the head pin but my Jackal Ghost on the same mark was just carrying great. I also have really good luck with my (MCP) blue tank on these type conditions. On paper it is a weak ball but it is a beast on conditions like this. I never had more than 2 balls until 3 years ago. Man building a serious arsenal make all the difference. My average went up 30 plus pins. You guys are awesome and one of the reasons I have improved.
Reiterate…just incredible info. I am an older bowler and am just struggling to open up my angles, it’s just new to me, but with lots of practice I will be able to use it soon, I hope. But I simply love your explanation, of really the duality of strategy. There are many ways of getting the results you want. Ball choice, angle changes, speed adjustment..and not one choice is the ultimate one. It’s a feel, intuition thing sometimes. It’s a complicated sport. This week I chose a ball on the first game that I thought was the wrong choice from an intellectual aspect, but it was feeling great in warm up. It was a symmetrical pearl I use as my ball starts to jump off the spot with my strongest ball. At first it did not work but with slower speed it started to eat the pins. You never know always why it works and sometimes you make it work. But ultimately seeing what your ball is doing and reacting is the key. Thanks again, you two are the best
Thanks for the video guys! I enjoyed it very much as well as the info you provided. I do have a question though; I'm getting back into the sport (haven't bowled league in about 25+ yrs), how do I figure out which brand & ball is best for me?
Keep up the great work and I can't wait to see 1 or both of you on the next TV show!!!
If you are just getting back into the game, don't worry about brand yet. Look for a ball that will be versatile for you. Look for mid-level hook. If you have low revs/high speed, get a slightly more aggressive ball. Less aggressive if you have more revs/lower speed. Finding the brand that works best for you is only through experience. When you start buying multiple balls over time, you will see a trend of which manufacturer works best for you. Fab (original Hammer line) was my favorite, followed by Brunswick. But times change. I now favor Storm.
The later shots with the Gem he was also giving more loft. I would like to see how the Ruby would have reacted.
I added the Hustle Rip to my arsenal about two months ago because my house I league in tend to transition quickly.
I had it drilled pin down and a little left of center to my ring finger.
Absolutely love it and it has helped a ton. Plus I hammer 10 pin spares with it
Thanks guys. Very informative!
With the 2 of you having different styles, your videos give even more depth to solving challenging lane conditions.
So by the time I find a line/ball combo, I’ll be done with my 3rd game. Thanks!
😂 J/K. Thanks for the tips.
very in depth! Well done!
Great content! Rolled my first 300 using the strategy Brad described at the end by playing the fall back. I roll on a very dry house shot in league
Incredible video with such great explanation! You guys really have stepped it up, very informative and easy to digest.
Another incredible video. It is a masterclass in all the things many of us need to know and are confused by at times. Such great insight.
Awesome video! .. Thanks guys! .. this is something I have struggled with quite a bit at times. Your instructions should help!
Love your lesson n i love your shirt Kyle
I grew up on drylanes. I developed a great technique for drylanes. Over the last 10 years I've only had to use it once. If I was bowling on a completely stripped Lane it would take me a little warm up to get the technique back but it's something I'll never forget.
Thanks you Brad that what I do...and it does wonderful results.. my question is do you used the weak ball or the stronger ball for it to set? What is best..I couldn't see the ball you used.
Good demo guys. Good lesson to show how tough lanes can behave, and how players can compensate for them.
When I try and play that deep, I always seem to pull the ball. How do you guys combat pulling the ball when playing that deep? You guys rock! Thanks for the informational videos!
Focus on opening up your shoulders when you move that deep. Usually if you're missing left when playing deep angles, it's your shoulders.
@@drakedbzagreed, want your chest and hips pointed in the direction you want the ball to go
Aligne your bowling shoulder, you hand your forearm and your hips to the primary target. There's no way you are gonig to hit those extreme lines by being square to the line.
@Atochabsh good tip. Thanks!
Great video guys! This is one of your best. Very informative and y’all did a great job explaining what you are seeing and how you adjust from it. I would love you guys to do a video explaining your adjustments when you leave 10 pins, 2 pins, etc. I think you have done one before but I really get a lot out of you talking about it.
Ran into this exact situation yesterday at R.P.Western. Zero oil and I have Phaze II, Fate, and Eternity in my bag. Eternity was the only thing with polish on it. Had to go from 6 thru 8 to 15-ish to 20 for any hold at all. Thank you for this video! I prefer these educational videos to ball reviews. Everyone does opinion pieces.
Do you like your fate?
@@Mr_DylanSinan I love it! 15lbs, strong drilling. Reactagloss...gone. Surfaced at 2000 with Reactaskuff. Love it
Love to see some pro coaching. It's always possible. All the way right works. Straight up and serious hook at the end of the route.
Love the HUSTLE Rip, my go to ball in league for sure
i seen this video back wen it dropped and i’m back now after getting better i was wondering if you only have strong balls for money reasons would it be a strategy to flatten your shot would be an option ?
thanks brad & Kyle at the house i bowl in everyone play the 2nd/3nd arrow and it dries up quicky but when I move left it seems like my balls don't want to hook back when i throw out to 2nd arrow any ideas thanks for all the info
It makes me feel better as an amateur bowler to know that even though I have a 195 average, lane conditions and house oil patterns can make it very easy to shoot 130 games or under, and that it's nothing but trial and error to find something that works. Bowling today has become much more challenging than it was 20 years ago because of the way lanes have changed and trying to bowl with 7 other people on lanes throwing completely different shots every time.
I mastered the technique of bowling on dry lanes already. I pack my shit up, walk up to the front desk and tell them if they want my money to oil their fucking lanes.
💯percent agree😊
Not all of us have the luxury of having two or more centers to choose from if the lanes are toasted at our home center. So, if we wanna throw, we gots to roam.
Most house are so busy with open bowlers spending triple in drink and food. Your Little money they dont care.
@@TheHabstrick LoL I spend enough at my house that if I call and ask for a lane to be oiled and the pattern I want on it, I get it. It's also funny that you assume I don't drink when I go bowl.
Great video this is some helpful information
Video showed why I no longer use or try to use my Tropical Surge when the lanes are dry despite it being for dry lanes. It is too unpredictable and hooks all over the place. For dry lanes or no oil (literally when center says they didn't oil the lanes), I'd rather use plastic.
Great video. I see you can have problems like the average bowler. I am an older bowler and bowl in a senior league. The shot we get is terrible. The lanes are oiled the day before and 1 league bowls on them and then there is 5 hours of open bowling. We get the left overs. I can’t get my speed up enough to over power the lanes. With a shiny ball I get the reaction of your Hustle and with the dull ball (Mesmerize) it looks like the Magic Gem. I just purchased an IQ Tour hoping that might have less backend and easier to control.
So when would urethane come into play if that's in your arsenal
Appreciate you huys and what you do for amateurs!
For me my league gets what is left over from the league literally right before mine like 2 hours before so it is burned up with ALOT of carry down and I am more speed then revs and I use a quantum leap that has a 3-3/8 layout with the heavy spot towards grip center and it is right handed but for me being a lefty it flares like a 1 inch and I love it in game 1 and practice but game 2 I have to give loft to get it to go down lane but when that is not a option I go to my sanded plastic ball at 240 trucut grit to 360 grit abralon lower grit for synthetic lanes but high for wood lanes. I am thinking about getting the hammer axe so I will have another option before plastic. Plus when I release the ball I do the yo-yo with my elbow and wrist flick but I also hit the ball and whip around the ball .
great breakdown, especially when you went from gem to hustle bc thats the issue i get in league when i ball change some times.. then i get lost and wind up throwing spare ball right at the pocket 😂
Just curious! Would you consider axis tilt or axis rotation change in throwing on dry?
I also have this, but I have this on wetter tracks and especially in house leugea. Our courts are quite wet and I throw arrows 2 to 3 and then faintly outside. However, I have two who should be strong. Roto rip Duo and Halo, but you often can't get away with it on this track because they sometimes go too straight. If I take the Hustle or even the Hysteria, I do a lot more and sometimes I find that very strange.
So Brad, I have a storm journey and after a month Im really not to happy with, I can make the adjustments you talk about for dry lanes and can get into the pocket (left handed), I don't know if its not carrying or what . the sound is like a dull thud and there very little pin action my hy road is a little better is the ball losing energy when it turns in and if so. will I need a redial or an adjust meant on my part?
Watching your videos almost makes me want to bowl again. I bowled as a "stroker" for 40+ years, then quit when the covid thing happened.
But I'm almost 70, and "high rev rate" is out of the question.
Do you have any videos on bowling for seniors?
Wish I would have watched this 3 weeks ago when the oil machine was broken. I suffered like everyone else on week 1 of the league. So, at least I wasn't alone. Great videos and info as always! Thanks!
Is urethane (Purple Hammer) a good choice for extreme dry? I have the HyRoad to get through smoothly on the dry, but I have had success with the PH too. I have a fairly high rev rate.
I would love to see an extended video about how to battle the cliff or wet/dry house shots.
Great video! It's helpful to see you have issues and how you address them. These are the conditions those "up 10 dumers" thrive on 😂
Nice work guys! I would be interested to see what your opinions are on purposely lofting the ball on dry lane conditions.
Well done, guys!
The conservation of energy at the end explains why sometimes when throwing a Tropical Surge it actually breaks more than my Black Widow Pearl. Thanks!
Any references for low rev speed dominant player when playin on light oil?
i am at 20 x 480, i struggle with trying to play on our dry lanes here, i went to very low end balls and pin under and short pin drillings. im almost curious if i should be using more surface to burn them up as far as energy goes. im so confused.,...what about going weak to start, then going to stronger later in the night?
What do you do when the track gets torched, but there is an incredible cliff of oil to still get through once you move left? I try going around it and get over reaction, but if I pinch it in, just a little, it's max penalty there, too with a 2-8-10.
I bowled a 267 tuesday and beat my high score by 1 pin. What would you suggest for more strikes? and for bowling more games like this. I average a 181
Hit your mark as much as you can, make your spares 😂 and don't be scared to make a move if your ball isn't doing what it should.
Practice your spares as much as your strike shot. They strikes will come, but the last thing you want is to miss easy spares, especially a couple in the same game.
It would be nice to see some useful "tips" helps for true Senior bowlers, 60-65, 70-75 and up. Most of us no longer have the speed or rev rates but we are usually pretty accurate. I
throw Motiv, Pyramid, Storm & Hammer products, 202/208 averages two different houses. I see the ladies struggle when the house shot gets dry, see a lot of Brooklyns.
If some of your opponents start left of you in the zone you want to move into later, what is the correct strategy to do in this scenario?
I'm a low rev player 2nd arrow to start and many times I play against tweeners throwing between 2nd and 3rd arrow that dry up my next zone and force me way left where i really stuggle.
I purchased the Track Tundra for dry lanes.
Great video. My lanes seem to dry up quickly where I bowl. I don't know if there's a video out there or not for this issue, but I don't know how to get the wide angle on my ball. I usually play 13ish as a left-hander and break at 7-10. When I try to go and try to do 18-25, it just goes straight and ends up in a disaster.
This video is an outstanding example of "Stronger Ball does not necessarily mean 'More Hook'"
This is an interesting subject to discuss.
Stronger ball does mean moree hook. It doesn't mean more shape/backend motion.
Great content guys! I deal with dry lanes all of the time. It's strange because they dress the lanes as we are coming in to get ready for our league. I am guessing they are using a low viscosity oil or just a very low volume. My Hustle M-M and Pitch Black has bailed me out on more than one occassion. Great stuff!
Great video!!
Get video. Our house is super dry during league. I do go to my Hustle often
We got ourselves a Brad Miller "wooooooow" sighting 🤣
If I’m a medium rev vs. high rev guy, is there a non-burned area OUTside, and with a slightly weaker ball (specific would be helpful), where I might try to play on dry lanes or really short patterns? Thanks.
I use a brunswick twist for those conditions
@@chriskelly509I'm low speed. (12.5 through pin) Plus I have big hands. I get serious rev rate. I think I'm getting a Twist soon. Playing the right side is almost impossible for me.
@@dobermanownerforlife3902 definitely get the twist
This is money!! Thanks guys
Excellent video.
What would you suggest that I do in a bowling alley that has above ground ball return because the lanes are underground? I can only move so far left and play the hold without being on top or kicking the ball return. Would you suggest moving to a weaker ball with a pearl coverstock or something with a smaller core? Also I'm 2 handed rev dominant and throw at 14ish mph so I can't really speed up more to play the straighter shot.
Not gunna lie, it was fun to watch you struggle adjusting, because that is bowling. Equipment builds and the mechanics of our swing so important, and no 2 are the same 😉
You briefly talked about the ball entry into the pocket. Can you have a session talking about ball path entry path. What is the good or bad of straight on vs angular. Ball reaction after entering the pocket. What will be left standing. What can you do or which ball to alter your usual path to get more of the other path.
I'll leave it up to you to add more on the subject.
Thanks...😊🎳
I am an owner of a magic Jem and a hustle this was a great video for me thanks
Great vid once again! This week in league the lanes were almost as bad as what you guys just demonstrated. I bowled like Sh$&. I carry a 198 average and i was so frustrated i threw a 560 (3 game block)
The week before i was lacing the pocket and threw an 690. I realized its a mental thing. I went into this week thinking i could throw the same line and got burned. So i was lost.
THANK YOU! This video came at a perfect time! We just left an alley that pretty much had NO oil 🤣💯
I've seen plenty of videos on 4-5 step approaches, the push away, etc. However, I've never seen a video on how to adjust for when bowling in front of the ball return. Kyle, it looked like you were only taking 2 or 3 steps. A video on how to adjust for that would be beneficial.
Great idea.
Those returns are very close at that bowling alley. I'm a two-hander who was never able to figure out how to drift left during the approach so I'm infront of the ball return for everything inside 3rd arrow. Normally I'm taking a 3 step approach and don't feel crowded at all but there it is more like 2.5 steps there; I would also like to see that video, specifically at that alley.
There's like a 10 year old video of some guy explaining a 3 step approach from in front of the ball return, if I find it I'll update my comment with the link.
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The lanes i bowl on hook at the arrows! Have to use plastic spare ball to keep in play
Harmony Bowl in Colorado Springs I saw a cloud of dust puff up off the lane when I threw it. 😆
Awesome video! What about Urethane on a dry shot?
I noticed you’re using a 3 step approach in front of the ball return. Can you make a video explaining how to do it and when to implement it. Thanks
Another great video guys. Here's an idea for another video. How can you identify when your ball is burning up? Losing just that little bit of energy where you lose striking power and just a little ball reaction. Then how do you adjust to that? Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas!
This is one of the better tutorial on this subject. I think you could have broke this into two videos, high rev & low rev players. You all showed one throw representing a lower rev player. All in all, a good tutorial.
Good info for bowling on what I like to call the "Camel Fart" pattern, which is what my league bowls on every Sunday night. So far I've had pretty good success with a Tropical Surge on these dusty, dry lanes. Been considering getting a new, slightly more aggressive ball, but not sure what the next best ball up from this would be for use on a very dry pattern...
Great vid guys! Now, how about tackling a 39-foot house shot... without any friction on the outside boards before the end of the pattern?
What about for ultra low rev bowlers (150 rpms and lower) who don't have enough revs or axis rotation to move inside and throw outside and get the ball to recover? What options do they have?
Should they move way outside and roll up 2 or 3 board and get the ball to roll out and roll across to the pocket in a smooth way like they are playing a short pattern?
try pushing your primary target down the lane. You might have to aim the range finders or in that area about 40' down.